hello freak [ __ ] got back in with Alex and spend a little bit time hanging on with him and Roger stone and so on and got really interested in the kind of dynamics of how Alex and trum communicate to each other but I'm wondering you've seen Alex more recently than I have well Alex's been my friend since 1998 yeah I was at his custody trial not long ago and you were both sad you hid your clothes welcome part on my show with you I'm just testing it I see George Soros makes the weed stronger
that's what he said he said that disgusted each other that's exactly he said he said he tests it once a year just in case he's weird because he's alive always where would that happen I mean the I I mean I come on man what's really funny is we drank with you in the show - no one gives a [ __ ] about that rock that's way more destructive it's the pot whatever is self-reflective yeah you know he paranoia inducing marijuana it's a real problem but I now wonder so he says that Trump called in just
after the election and thanked him and I'm inclined to believe that's true because I don't think that's the kind of thing that Alex would lie about but if you got any of you come to any conclusion about whether there is a connection with you and Alex and Trump now because I'm beginning to think maybe there just isn't any more but maybe but I could be wrong that's a good question I don't know I mean first of all I don't see how Trump can have a connection with that many people I feel like the job of
being the president has got to be so insanely demanding the idea that he like he's taken a few moments out of his days got his feet up on the chair with a laptop and he's on infowars.com is like I got a call Alex and find out what the [ __ ] going on with this child slavery thing on Mars yeah Alex where these slaves tell me we're we're on Mars I think it benefits everyone to think that it because it makes an example of that yeah I thought benefits people on the left of me man
Alex's is connected to Trump yeah it kind of benefits Alex I think for people to think it too because it grandiose is him what helps him in a way I mean it's like people yeah there's a bunch of people that enjoy Alex right so some of them enjoy it for the theater there's a theater element of it all you know I mean it's all doom and gloom and and then some of it some people enjoy because like Bohemian Grove occasionally he's correct like Bohemian Grove is a real mind [ __ ] you see all these
super rich people were in robes whatever in effigy yeah I was in the crowd yeah with all the old men of wealth so Dallas that freaked you out as soon as people one thing freaked me out I like Alex came out of Bohemian Grove night with a with with a varying interpretation of all is your interpretation my interpretation is basically with with one caveat about caveat there okay my interpretation is that it's just like [ __ ] you know skull and bones oh yeah I agree that concern you know those are all creepy right yeah
and they want to know if there does seem to be amongst the American ruling elites that does seem to be a pretty for ritual yeah maybe a maybe amongst the British elites as well I'm not sure that but that's in itself psychologically interestingly I think secrets too but so it's like why so that is interesting like why even if the ritual at Bohemian Grove I you know and I would contend that contrary to what Alex implied they weren't actually sacrificing the child no you didn't say they were sacrificing 800 in it at some point does
video yeah it could could be real could be real late an unhappy meal he probably was so jazzed up that they were actually dressed up like monks he with the hoods and they have the Moloch the owl guy when he was actually there I mean that probably ramped up his love of conspiracy Oh three or four hundred percent it was hilarious because you know we went in separately to because Alex got it into his head that maybe I was part of the Bohemian Grove oh you like deep deep inside yeah like the way that I
was like luring him in some hero oh yeah belly at the hour so he went in separately today he went by the undergrowth mmm and I went up the strife that's what in life where gave the security guard a kind of I rule the world wave and then we went in there that's all you had to do yeah yeah I mean he not nine yards yeah two guys that go off in the case yeah so White House and then we saw Alex and Mike Hanson who was his producer that I'm walking like towards us now
with this local lawyer who would we talked up with and I was like hey and you know Alex might are you doing I never like keep walking it's cameras in the trees this owl everywhere and then owls yes because I felt like the owls were cameras they got it into their heads that the owls that Bohemian Grove the owl motifs that Bohemian Grove with indicative of the fact that it was like Moloch the owl God yeah and it was like some sort of satanic but actually I would say that the reason why there's all those
owls because I saw like stuffed owls and display cabinets and so on but I think it's like having is an owl sanctuary but anyway but I want one of this stuff them there well I also I might have to do it died of natural causes okay miss it shitty [ __ ] sanctuary if they kill it then stuff it so it's sort of like Norman Bates mom and if I go sort of her but what was odd that night was one thing that the oddest moment and this is where I will this is where my
memories when that does tally with Alex's is it for whatever reason the people in the crowd were really into this this ceremony learn like no was a sort of they were really fired up by it let's remember his old guy walked up to me before it started and so your first timer and I went yeah I do oh you got to love it you're gonna love it burning burning know some something along those loans and and it did make me think like and then I looked behind and I was Alex and Mike wide-eyed looking like
they were bring you know the belly of the beast and then there's all these old prepping them like wide-eyed they were really into it too I feel like the only sane person in the entire redwoods so I was like the only person figurative stuck Nickolas it is ridiculous what but they were into it it was that moment it was that moment of Revelation actually that then led me to write the book that I wrote after that book which was many stoic goats which is about you know soldiers try to kill goats just by staring at
them because I because I remember lie I member thinking I was actually I was in Belfast I was getting to talk about my book zem which is where I talk about all of that stuff and simply said okay so I know what used them because they this woman in the audience said I know you think this is like ridiculous and I know that Alex Jones thinks it's evil but what about the people in the crowd what were they thinking about it and I thought that's a really good question so that's what led me to write
a book about like a rational thought in powerful places which is what led me to read men's dare go now when you when you're there and you see that there really is a giant stone owl and they really do have this bundle of sticks that they're burning and everyone really is wearing these robes but like I mean you had a part of you how to be like how many of these [ __ ] things are going on that we haven't infiltrated well yeah and that's true that there's there's a photo of it there this is
real I mean they really do have a giant owl and they really do burn some sort of a sacrifice in front of this owl yeah and there's a speaker's there that's at one point this is a lesser documented possible ritual at one point there's a guy in leaf covered later hose and tears in like a stage cut out of the redwood tree and start singing this kind of elegy to nature like old trees so leaves so that's how it's that that's before of the medon Rove fair enough so it's like some weird pagan nature yeah
literal covered later hoes and Joe how much would you give to be in one of skull and bones meetings see if they actually like film each other sucking dicks or something there's something that goes on where they have like something over those guys supposedly that's like though yeah the conspiracy theory that's they makes their engage in gay sex I do believe these things happen for a reason like you know it's going to bone success or a reason they have something over you it could be that or it could be just this weird sense with some
psychological need that people like I believe people feel they need to like have a sense of superiority moment allowed us to kind of create these secret rituals to give them a sense of like you know gradual over the people that's possible now a guy like Alex Jones stumbles upon some point out or infiltrates it and finds out it is real I mean that is justifying to such a an enormous enormous level again but Alex but here's my my truck with Alex and all of this is that it wasn't like the Alex all the [ __
] crazy [ __ ] that we saw that night wasn't enough like he had to like turn it up to the lessons of course yeah I applied that we had possibly witnessed an actual human sacrifice of course but that standard that standard Alex Jones 101 but it shouldn't these time it shouldn't be but I mean I mean think about all the exaggerations exaggerations that take place in the media whether it's on the left or the right there's this rampant exaggeration well it's funny you should say that so did you watch Alex being interviewed by Megan
Kelly yes I did yeah well that made me laugh you know they phoned me a couple of days before the broadcast Megyn Kelly's people okay they were panicking too remember there was like a lot of criticism they were getting so for having them on yeah first place yes today called me up and they basically wanted me to give them as much evidence as I could prove could Alex and Trump were you know aligned and they were known to each other and so on called you why because you want to Bohemian Grove with them I want
to be me go P then I also brought out this little Kindle single last summer called the elephant in the room in which I'm trying to trace like the relationship between Alex and Trent give virus oh oh and it's kind of in this interesting stuff but so I answered the questions as best as I could but I don't know that much about exactly how often Trump and I would talk to each other yeah I don't know either yeah I'm not really that interested in it as well as odd as it is like well I have
a very [ __ ] up relationship with Alex in that and he's actually my friend and so when I see him it's like what's up man we do and I give him a hug and people go huh he's a monster or how can be friends of them and not like I don't know yeah I just base it on my interactions with them and yet does he say [ __ ] up thinks the most disturbing thing that I didn't even know when he did the podcast I didn't know that he was a Sandy Hook denier right
so apparently he's backed off that since being confronted by the facts and and there was a horrible article that I read about a father who was actually a conspiracy theorist until his son was killed in Sandy Hook and then he got death threats for lying and he played better coming filleth yeah and that was so - so just so sad yeah that's - so people look for [ __ ] conspiracies in everything and I don't know what it is I have friends that have this issue I don't understand it things that could be easily explained
they look for a conspiracy and it happens in the news there's got to be a different story like sometimes [ __ ] just happens and when that should happen the news has a story it doesn't always have to be some sort of nefarious plot but these people also think that the government is filled with idiots well I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways you can't have a bunch of incompetent [ __ ] heads who pull off the perfect fake world where everything you see is some sort of an elaborate played out scheme in
order to manipulate you and either buying this or voting for that like there's a weird inclination that people have to not just it not just some conspiracy theories but almost everything to think everything is some part of some crazy plot yeah sure I understand it what you said about lie get a biases and untruth like a cross the major on the left arm and right remember if the megyn kelly thing so you know so they fill me up obviously in a bit of a panic because they were getting like so much criticism right and then
they reacted the show like frantically just before it went reality yeah how did they change I well I don't know but what I do know is like you I saw the final product and the final product was basically megyn kelly like looking incredibly poised saying you know you're run Alex you'll run about this and then it would cut too out it's good but but but it would cut Platt to Megan so all they did was lie edit Alex at his most sweaty and stutter hmm and then Megan Kelly at her most poised good perfect so
did you hear the Alex Jones audio the leaked audio that he released yeah where they were sort of buttering him up and conning him yeah I was saying yeah personally I was hanging on I'm not here to make a hit piece I just want to know the real you and I was although they did create it so I I wonder what the original program would have been like because they felt forced to basically by him yeah well they felt forced by like the people pushing back against them doing that over here yeah to then put
out this shitty you know ten minutes I wish to say it was in Megyn Kelly's corner I would have told her first of all don't ever go to NBC listen here's the deal like you made your bones as an ice princess on this conservative network and do you think they're just going to accept you at NBC people are going to resent you they're going to hate you I'll give the lady that chastise people for saying that Santa Claus potentially wasn't white remember that I don't know oh my god it was some thing where they were
saying there was people talking about Santa Claus being black and I'll never forget it was on TV going you know listen Santa Claus is white like I'm like wicked what the [ __ ] are you talking about Santa Claus isn't really great [ __ ] you can't say static are those white more than you can say cat in a hat is red they're not real things you know you can decide that you know like The Cat in the Hat in the book is always white okay yeah you're right good point but but is he black
is white what does the captain hat he's got a hat is red and white what color is he though hmm I think he's black right is he okay it's not important but what's important is that like her whole thing was being a spokesperson this ultra-hot spokesperson for the conservative movement but also being someone who's ruthlessly smart and articulate and capable of shutting down these stammering liberals then dare go and question her our narrative van alstyne she's on NBC look you can't do that that's a terrible move I do not going to accept you this is
not going to work and the ratings have been horrendous and now she's fit now they pulled the show they pulled the show early but it just goes to show light you know we rightly attack people like info was for spreading you know outright lies yes but we on the left like megan kelly editing that segment to make it look like she was poised and perfect at all right expose is coming and sweat what's very hard very hard sell saying the Megyn Kelly's on the Left which is on the left now what I mean like the
mainstream that remains is that NBC so the mainstream right has its own tricks it's like it's not an outright lie like Alex would do but that you know panicky selective editing it's another film well I would I would have imagined that like during the interview between Alex and megyn kelly Alex would have said some things that were you know eloquent or or sentence without a stammer in a flash I'm sure yeah so it's a lot its own well here's a also the problem and having any sort of a conversation about any sort of difficult subject
and stuffing it into seven minutes or whatever it is is ridiculous yeah it's an ancient way of communicating and now that we have the internet and Alex is shown with his own show you know that he can go and rant about something and you know for 15 minutes or whatever it is like and with no limitations or restrictions like it's it's a better way to communicate and one of the things that I wanted to do when I had Alex on the podcast is I wanted people to see the Alex that I know because there's no
other way to see him like that I wanted to get him drunk I wanted to get him high and I wanted to have him talk and my friend Eddie was just so into conspiracies he kind of [ __ ] some of it because he's just so into chemtrails and proving that chemtrails are real right but it was good overall because it's like he was Alice so crazy that even Eddie was like what yeah it was a couple of moments where Eddie turned to look at Alex he goes what the [ __ ] like what he's
talking about interdimensional child molesters and it's I wanted people to see him the way I see it was a fun guy I like hanging out with do I think that he has a lot of influence yeah though I think he says things that he definitely shouldn't say of course especially the Sandy Hook stuff I mean I think this inclination to always look towards conspiracy is it's dangerous I Marmite oh yeah yeah it's it's it's it's dangerous in that people are easily led and if you get people thinking that everything is a conspiracy the real problem
is they don't know what the [ __ ] a conspiracy actually is when it's in front of them and it's real there's a ton of them that are real so when you caught your crying wolf around every corner and then all sudden you turn a corner like holy [ __ ] that's a real wolf no one is listening so I agree that that's nice frustration with Alex too is that he has a conspiracy template and whatever real-world events happens yes shoehorns yeah it's kind of simplistic template yeah [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
