RJ Spina - Reprogramming The Subconscious

Foreign [Music] welcome to the reality Revolution I am so excited I have RJ Spina back as you guys know I have held off from doing interviews for a little bit but when RJ asked me uh if we could interview and he um sent me his new book I I had to accept and after reading his book I was so excited because it's right down the line With what we talk about on a regular basis RJ is a massive expert I recommend you go and watch my other two episodes where we have talked about his first

book Ascend the frequencies and uh or that that's actually his his website to send the frequencies um and as as we all know the story RJ has devoted his adult life to teaching people how to raise their frequency improve the quality of their life heal themselves and experience the Blissful State of truly being free he had spent the better light of a part of his life exploring profound metaphysical truths through his own higher Consciousness exploration but it was waking up from emergency life-saving surgery still permanently paralyzed from chest down paralysis that awaken him to the

highest truth he'd ever encountered he could heal himself and walk again it was something that he instantaneously knew and he knew how he would do it we Talked about that in our first two interviews and his first book is really amazing but his second book I'm just as excited for and that's changed the mind um RJ talks about changing the subconscious mind and energy in particular and a variety of different things in particular change your mind focuses on how to reprogram the subconscious mind and the role that energy plays in this process of changing your

mind and so I'm really excited Having a chance um to have just read this to go over what our RJ um you know is teaching here and we can go over some of the deep Concepts that he's talking about so welcome back how's it going RJ thank you for having me Brian it's it's going really well super busy uh but in a good way uh and I really appreciate you making the time for us to talk well it's always so exciting and I always learn something new when I get a chance to talk with you

and so let's uh First of all begin what was your inspiration for the new book changing your mind um as a sort of sequel to your last book um you all you wanted to go a little bit further and really explore how to reprogram the subconscious mind and the role of energy within that what was your inspiration in that well Brian I'm I'm My Own guinea pig as you know so I I work on my work on myself right so uh with the first book Uh with the chest down paralysis and manifesting uh my health

and manifesting and creating are really the same thing we use those words correct uh interchangeably so wow I understand the process itself literally like the back of my hand in terms of how manifestation actually works and when I decided that the the topic for the next book has to do with human potential so for me everything is about bringing out the the Superhuman and uh if if people are unaware 95 of reality creation comes from our subconscious mind which is essentially the whole ball of the wax our our thinking mind only accounts for five percent

so if we want to truly create the life that we know that we're possible of we're going to have to go into the the Uncharted Territory which is the subconscious mind and so I I wanted to Write the the treasure map in terms of how to get to the subconscious mind remove in a repeatable robust process just like the Ascend the frequency ceiling technique I want to develop a system for Humanity that they could use that anyone could use to begin to understand the subconscious patterned egoic mind because that is actually the reality Creator so

as I was doing this with myself looking at my own Sort of subconscious when we're very detached and higher higher Consciousness perspective I started to see the things that were still left in there and as I said I'm My Own guinea pig so I wanted to actually remove these things for myself and then as I remove them from myself I just developed a system in terms of what I did for myself so I wanted to capture this system and as you know the book has got three essential Parts but the first part has to do

with Deprogramming the subconscious mind because for all of us to ascend the frequencies and there it is right behind me for all of us to ascend the frequencies and start to be able to live the way that we all know that we're capable of this is what must take place Brian the deprogramming of the subconscious mind because it is the reality Creator must be addressed and most of us know Law of Attraction things like that mantras Affirmations and they certainly have their place but the reason why they're not a foolproof is because of what's already

embedded within the subconscious pattern you got mine so until we see these things bring it to the conscious mind and there's a system to do it's very easy as you read as soon as you bring that to the conscious mind this program of scarcity lack limitation separation that these things are outside of you you see it consciously once you See it consciously you can delete that program now once that program is deleted there's more of the mighty I am or what we really are which is abundance itself that becomes the frequency that we emanate this

wholeness this completeness and that can only be manifest in terms of a 3D or a material world until the limitations of the subconscious mind are removed so that's what this this book is about it's for Humanity to have a robust Repeatable process to remove the limitations that have kept us from being able to live the way that we all know that we can one of my biggest I'm one of my favorite authors is is Joseph Murphy who wrote extensively about the subconscious mind in the power of your subconscious mind um but it seems like with

new thought authors and more modern authors there's a little bit of a discrepancy in their explanation of what the subconscious Mind actually is there's levels to the subconscious minding a personal subconscious that's unique to your own imprint and then there's a sort of larger universal mind so how are you defining the subconscious mind before we start reprogramming that's a great question okay so let's start in terms of what it is that I perceive uh through a a higher Consciousness perspective not through my physical eyes Or my intellect but through the the true Mind's Eye and

the higher mind itself so the the subconscious I think the best way to look at it Brian is to see it as a the best recording device that's ever been created so it literally records every single moment every single second of your entire existence which includes past lives present lives and future lives which are all happening concurrently but it literally records everything now how It does this has to do with our body of energy and I think this is what's been missing along with a couple other things that's been missing before in terms of the

subconscious understanding and how to deprogram it our body of energy and our more subtle bodies of energy how the subconscious works are the indentations and the identifications that are made within our subtle body so the image that I use in the book and That's what becomes the programs so the image I use in the book is think of a bed spread I love I love this explanation it really helped to me keep going perfect so yeah this is I think once we have these kind of images and tangibility it makes a world of difference for

everybody so if we think of we think of the hospital corners nice and tight right and then if we take a marble right and just place the marble on the bedspread now if we looked Closely right where the marble touches the bedspread we would see just the slightest indentation right where the marble is leaving its in its impact upon the bedspread okay now imagine our subtle body of energy and you can think of this relates to the to the seven chakras but it goes beyond that it goes beyond that but think of the seven chakras

as one bedspread so now think each one of these different frequential bandwidths are subtle body Of energy is a bed spread so there's seven even though there's more I don't want to go too far with it every single thing that was is within that frequential range is a marble every sound we hear every image that we ever see every experience that we ever have every voice that we ever hear everything that we ever touch even the things that go well beyond physical sensory perception are actually leaving marbles all over our subtle body of energy these

Indentations those indentations becomes your program's subconscious mind they leave an indent and then the energy works through those things and around those things so every time there's an indentation it affects our Behavior it affects our thoughts our emotions our actions and our behaviors and it goes even higher than that it affects our desires and our intentions every one of these little marbles so those are the indentations from from Subtle energies that's beyond physical sensory perception including the ones that are within within physical sensory perception now the ones that we identify with the things that we

have perceived heard or experienced that we identify ourselves with that becomes part of the egoic Mind so there's Synergy between the subconscious patterned mind from all these different marbles within all these Different frequential bandwidths the ones that we identify ourselves with becomes the subconscious pattern egoic mind now once we have these things embedded and everyone is filled with them absolutely filled with them if we could actually look at a human being we would just see dots and dentations all over the place now everything that we operate from has to do with those none of us

are free none of us are able To operate with true freedom and true freedom is not doing whatever you want whatever you want that's not Freedom real freedom is escaping the tyranny of the finite mind and limiting body Consciousness that is freedom so when we start to address the subconscious pattern mind the marbles that are within there when we go through the system we remove remove remove now we own our own mind now there's no Such thing as a limitation now our desires and our 10 our intentions are authentic to us they're not programmed in

through Society we're not brainwashed we're not indoctrinated most of us are doing not even most of us all of us are programmed to behave and act and think and desire the exact same things why is that because it's been planted those are Those are the marbles that are within there so until we remove them we can never transcend the subconscious pattern to go of mind we will be left with limitations that we don't see that we keep recycling the experiences and never actually having fulfillment or cessation or knowingness of the true I am what we

end up having is just the endless appetite for the things that have been programmed into our subconscious mind So you made an important comment um you mentioned that part of our subconscious is all of our past lives and our past incarnations so obviously that's a daunting amount of information underlying just this life so how can we possibly overcome the programming of of countless other lives other than this one I mean I I I'm kind of aware what sort of programming I've been through in this life but how do we come to grips with the the

Infinite programming that we've experienced in all these past lives yeah that's a great question all right so that's actually what becomes the biological computer the genetic entity so all the thought all the thought patterns all the emotional patterns all the societal conditionings all the traumatic events that have happened throughout history through your genetic uh your your hereditary becomes what's I mean this is this is it It gets embedded within our DNA okay so that's what this thing really is this is our ancestors okay now how do we overcome that is the the residing Consciousness or

sentience or the I am that's within the vehicle once it actually takes command of the Incarnation we rewrite all the genetic history it only takes one person to liberate themselves to heal all of their ancestors so it's nothing additional we've been conditioned to Believe that we're a slave to genetics and that way we have to Healing then becomes outside of ourself and all you know we go on and on about that right complete it's complete Black Magic it's complete nonsense it's it's materialism and it's actually luciferian that whole thing maybe that's a whole other discussion

you can get into correct reducing reducing Consciousness to everything that's outside of yourself and therefore solidifying it and Crystallizing it okay so the the soul that is occupying the vehicle when it fully takes command by deprogramming itself it overrides genetics every genetics are actually nowhere near as impactful as people think they are not even close I've been diagnosed with a whole bunch of stuff that's impossible to overcome and it's you absolutely and I absolutely have and I'm sure I'm not the only one then I Absolutely have and it has to do with understanding this once

you take command once the I am takes command of the vehicle you're now in charge not the genetics if you identify deeply with the physical form if you see yourself as this then you will become a slave to genetics you'll become a slave to the body you'll also become a slave to what the body produces thoughts emotions bodily Sensations and then You'll identify with the experiences that the body has now you actually have no shot of deprogramming your subconscious mind or liberating yourself or healing so it we have ultimate potential and ultimate control we're abdicating

it through identification with the body and then we say because that's all we have over here oh it's genetics there's nothing you can do about it that is absolutely nonsense I'd really like to get your feel for the power of language on our programming in subconscious uh something I'm super fascinated by and when you know the things that were working for me in deprogramming my subconscious was was affirmations and and hypnosis and and deep sleep programming and those kind of things when when I became aware as a hypnotist the power of key phrases words modalities

and and different programs like that I became aware of my own Programming and that we're constantly being programmed all the time by words around us it's and that plays a role in the energy so how does that fit into your model of of the subconscious and our ways of reprogramming it yeah it's absolutely part of it it goes beyond words but that's absolutely part of it everything that we see we feel we hear even energies that are outside of fiscal sensory perception become marbles that land within the subtle Now language is Certainly part of it

most of us communicate through language once we get into about the fifth frequency or what people call The Fifth Dimension most of the communication will be telepathic and there really won't be language so but for now we are certainly spelled by words without a doubt so the whole origination of the meaning of words Brian it comes from the effect of the sound that it had upon the ether so as we emanate in the beginning was The word and the Word was sound okay so sound sound is what creates the formulation of matter look at look

at the somatics right all the differences you put a certain frequency in a certain sound and all of a sudden shape takes place so it plays a huge role we are constantly spelling ourself the voice inside your head the story that you tell yourself is you literally spelling yourself You are putting yourself in a in a state an unawakened state so it plays a massive it's part of it it's not the whole thing and it's not the whole thing by from my perspective it's not the whole thing by a long shot but it's absolutely essential

and the key to the real transformation that these things don't uh prior we don't deprogram first we have to deprogram first and then address mantras Affirmations and commands because if we still have this going on right the societal conditioning all the stuff from past lives we have all this going on right think of it this way Brian that is a very specific frequency that we're emanating right whatever we got going on on the subconscious but whatever it is pick something it doesn't really matter right but that is like a specific frequency that we are emanating

You think of it as like a song right now the universe can only match that the Universe mirrors everything everything here is designed for self-mastery the Multiverse is a multi-frequential multi-dimensional Hall of Mirrors designed for self-mastery which simply mirrors every single emanation that we have and I've been everywhere and that's exactly how it works now so if we have this emanating Prime we have our subconscious mind lack Fear all these different programs right going on that's what we emanate the universe matches it now if we don't address that we don't deprogram that and we tack

on affirmations commands mantras now what we're doing it's kind of like emanating two songs at the same time we got our programming and 95 of reality creation comes from the programming and then we're trying to tack on something to that so now we're emanating two songs at The same time this is why we get mixed results because nobody can dance to two songs at the same time we ask the universe to do it but it doesn't work so the key is to address those programs delete them then add on what is truly representative of your

highest desire and what it is that you're possible so to me that is that is the way to operate so you you have the book broken into three parts understanding the subconscious becoming the real you and Then attending to your energy um so before we get into the becoming the real you you the thing I love about this book is it's not just something that you read you have applicable exercises that you can do that are easy to do and um they're very effective so that anybody that's saying oh I don't want to just read

another book that's not what this this book is something is a software that you can install that will start Um amazing results in deprogramming you and helping you to understand your energy uh and you give incredible signs and ways of knowing when you're dissolving your subconscious programming a lot of people will come to me how do I know I I'm reprogrammed again so tell me a little more what are the signs of dissolving my subconscious programming yeah that's a great question and yeah for me for me as RJ everything is about there there must be

a system That's one thing for me to talk about these things but if there isn't actionable and understandable steps to take if it isn't prescriptive then to me it's worthless because we've moved into the age the age of Aquarius this is the age of experiential knowingness so it must be tangible for all of us and all my work will reflect that it will be tangible for you through an actual robust repeatable systems just like the Ascend the frequencies healing Technique We now have the technique to deprogram the subconscious mind and all my future Works will

have a system that goes with it so you can do it yourself okay now that I just rambled on and on can you do me a favor can you ask me your question ask me a question what are the signs that that it's what's working that that it's the subconscious uh programming is dissolving okay thank you okay I got carried away right no so what else is new all right so Because our desires and our intentions have been programmed into us okay in the beginning and there's as you know there's lists and lists and lists

of all these different things that are that are Universal for everyone that doesn't Universal for me too that's like I said I'm My Own guinea pig and that in the beginning all the things that were driving our Behavior okay they're now being brought into Light and then deleted when we realize that's that's not really an authentic desire that doesn't really come from your higher mind and your higher self so as we start to recognize these things and then delete them like a useless program from a computer that no longer serves us we often find ourselves

unmotivated we don't find ourselves tethered to anything in the very beginning the Friends that that we had the same mindset with we start to feel a disconnection the people that we were lockstep in terms of our thought process and things like that all of a sudden we start to feel a disconnection so in and this is this is actually what is quote unquote meant to be you're changing your song you're changing your frequency now they and that's totally fine they're probably still stuck on their same song in their Same frequency so now now you're you're

no longer dancing to the same tune so you do you start to feel alone we talk about this as people Ascend and they wake up right that it's also the end of inauthentic relationships and when you work highly on yourself like these books lay out any anauthentic relationship is going to fall away because you're no longer in resonance with one another so what does start to happen is the things that we're driving Your behavior and that's how you deprogram your subconscious mind as you know you have to understand what's the core motivation for why I'm

doing this and most of us never examine this now you'll have a process to do it so in the beginning you're going to feel like you don't know what to do with yourself you're going to feel a bit lost you're going to feel a bit alone you're going to feel lonely you're going to feel unmotivated That's because you're now untethering yourself from everything that you were stuck to that you were programmed to believe in and then and then act at the behest of your programming so in the beginning having a book that shows you all

these different signs all these different things that start to happen but the main one is you kind of don't know what to do with yourself in the very beginning because everything that was driving your Behavior the programming has been brought to your conscious mind and you've deleted it because it's not authentic to you so we have to give ourselves permission to adjust to this to give ourselves sort of uh our own time and our own way to start to find our true self and then as you know in the book there's all these different things

that we can do to actually start to express and to Know this true self but in the beginning it can be lonely it can be uh you can feel unmotivated you can feel uh disconnected you can feel that you don't have anything in common with your family your friends your co-workers hey welcome to the club okay that's that's actually how it works but that is actually how you discover the real you it's sort of a desert phase like we see with all of the the great Masters that have been written about they go through The

desert phase uh and and so that's a sign you know some people will come to me and they're struggling with that um and I it's a great sign that you're on the right path um a lot of times at that dissolving period people will lose a job they'll lose their home something some in often cases it's dramatic the major changes in their life and and they have I made a terrible mistake there's that Doubt that Creeps in when you have big changes in your life right yeah yeah so um New Beginnings are often disguised as

messy endings right so for for the Awakening of the self the mighty I am for it to awaken and for us to then realize the next data point on our life plan oftentimes those old data points have to be taken away they we can't Retreat to them let me put it that way we can't we can't stop our own progression by being stuck within what It is that we were identified with and programmed to behave and like so that's absolutely right this often happens this the only way the new data point can present itself is

if you have released yourself from the confines of the identification with the other one through your subconscious programmed egoic mind so these things have to go sometimes relation just like you said sometimes relationships end sometimes there's a new relationship we're just Waiting on the horizon jobs sometimes you move you meet you meet new people that this is actually what is supposed to happen right if everything stays the same there's there's no growth there's no Evolution we're we're not expanding our Consciousness and letting the I am unfurl itself there's no gnosis so that's exactly that's exactly

what happens and if if all of us can start to reside in the knowingness think about think of a caterpillar I mean does it not completely and utterly destroy itself in order to become what it really is is that not a a a destructive messy vulnerable process that that caterpillar goes through to be born into what it really is so if we could keep that as analogy it'll make this transition easier so as we like the caterpillar are turning into the butterfly the butterfly is really the real you and so you you Mentioned as the

second part of the book is becoming the real you when we're changing our minds not just some little thing we want we're not trying to get like fifty thousand dollars or or win the lottery um it's it's an absolute transformation in our self and Who We Are how do we do that first of all how do we express the real you all the time sometimes we get hints and and little uh you know we have an idea of it but how Do we do it on a regular basis that's what a great question okay one

of the things that I talk about in the book has to do with authenticity okay when you're off when you're authentically you what will happen is you're not concerned with other people's approval you're not concerned with other people's uh reaction and you're not really looking for acceptance what you're really interested in is Being truthful with yourself you're no longer trying to fit in and you don't need to fit in because you didn't come here to stay so it's being true to yourself true to your highest passions true to your highest desires if we all could

imagine for a moment if we only said and did took action on what we tangibly know to be true tangibly no to be true that is how you become the real you and You never deviate from that now once you taste that anything artificial will never suffice you can't go backwards you won't go backwards the butterfly doesn't try to jump back into that cocoon and start and try to become a caterpillar again so it has to do it has to do with being tangible in terms of your own authenticity your highest excitement your highest desire

being authentic and Once you realize that that's the only thing that matters not approval not acceptance not attention not gratification you won't step backwards but if the if the egoic mind gets in the way we will go back to the old patterns the key is to only say and do what you tangibly know to be true for you and that is the way to be and express the real you it's an absolute focus on Truth as you Understand it and are aware of it and when you when you that's just a cliche but when you

really think about that you start to analyze and apply it in your life you do you do start to see the times that you're not following your truth yeah it's it's an amazing realization um what are the what are the universal characteristics of this real you that I could that I can you know helps me to understand myself are there Characteristics that I can refer to as you talk about in the book ABS absolutely there's a there's a long there's a long list in there so uh I mean some of them and these are Universal

and that's that's how it's good because because the I am the sentience what we used to call the soul but it's not really accurate what we really are is our level of love and wisdom whose subsets are our talents and abilities That's the I am that's that's the god that's what we all are is that and that is given energy to think to emote to animate the body to create experiences but the painter is not the painting so what we need to focus on are these Universal qualities and these are things like compassion forgiveness power

wisdom love Understanding courage clarity connectivity communion calmness those are some of the universal characteristics that make up the I am and it's the same for you me your neighbor your dentist etc etc it is absolutely Universal now when we are when we become compassionate Forgiving courageous wise loving first with ourself then we'll be that way with everybody else and anything that isn't truthful as we said it's kind of like a slogan or a slight not when it's tangible not when it's tangible and when we taste the when we taste the true self the I am

anything inauthentic has lost its Allure and so the going back to these habits or going back to hanging out in a way that that didn't serve your highest good or Anyone else's highest good it literally becomes unpalatable unpalatable to you because all of these things lose their Allure these Universal qualities are tangible they're not mental they're tangible and the key is is to reside within within these things and stay true to these things 24 7 and everything that we do and every interaction that we have and especially in everything that we create subtle question regarding

this as I Start to realize my true self uh a lot of times in spiritual writings and teachings we're talking about attracting attracting um but but the actual real self is radiating it's more of a radiational it's not about getting something it's about giving it's more of a radiating um I find the false self that I had is the attracting um and that the real self is is a radiational What is your opinion on that yeah that I mean that's that's much more on the money uh but what we can't what we can do probably

we can we can take it as a step further or many maybe many steps further okay so let's think about breathing right inhale exhale right okay if we if we if we start to realize that those are two sides to the same coin there is no inhale without Exon there is no exhale without inhale that in actuality It's just one thing right okay so now when we start to use that about giving and receiving they're not separate each one needs one another it's actually one thing now what we're starting to tap into Brian is flow

now we're tapping into flow and abundance is the momentum or uninterrupted Flow State that comes from the mighty I am which is abundance itself So if we cease to compartmentalize inhale and the exhale no word it's one thing now giving and receiving is not separate this this is when things this is when things really start to change I love that so my favorite part of the book is your discussion of energy and a lot of times I think energy is not properly discussed and talked about and I'd like to go deep on this and and

talk about how we should view our energy There is some contradictory versions out there in in the spiritual ether about the way our energy Body Works and our energy for instance Carlos Castaneda would argue that it's a fixed amount we always have the fixed amount we don't lose or gain any energy it's a fixed amount and then others say you know you can deplete your energy you can gain and add more energy um how how should I view my energy body is it a fixed amount and I'm just Reclaiming the energy that I've lost or

can I continually attract more and more energy or is it do you understand what I'm trying to get at it's there's this idea that there's a limit to the amount of energy and if I expend it it's not coming back and I don't you know I sometimes I don't know what the actual truth is and and help me to understand that absolutely yeah okay uh energy cannot be created or destroyed okay so that's another word of saying It's infinite okay it doesn't doesn't sound finite to me at all doesn't sound finite to me at all

okay now we can even go back to to a healing Me unparalyzing Myself and right okay so I commanded more and more energy high frequency and tell what I call intelligent energy into my body through I mean there was many other things I did but opening up my crown chakra and commanding energy Into me in order to put my essentially completely destroyed body back together there's an infinite amount of energy there's no such thing as finite that is that is the limitations of body Consciousness and therefore the intellect no disrespect anybody but those that can

truly see would never say that because it's it's endless a Tesla attempt into it the ascended frequency Healing technique is it essentially how to use what Tesla tapped into for your own healing it's really it's really lock step vibration from seeing energy okay so Brian there's nothing finite now what we have to start to understand is that through identification right with a belief a concept a person it doesn't matter what it is through identification with something that identification is your energy okay Spider-Man shooting his spiderweb Right he's now stuck to the building or whatever okay

so your energy is the spider web so whatever you identify yourself with is an energy depletor now this is this and this is the ego mind identity this is what the subconscious pattern you go mine this is what it does it's constantly depleting itself because it's constantly identifying itself with the concept and ideology and experience a person right A Belief right that's your energy every single identification that you have weakens you energetically it does not strengthen you it does the absolute if Spider-Man shot off 500 spider webs to all these different where's he going he

can't go anywhere he's he's got no Freedom he's got no power okay it's a silly analogy but anyway okay that that's but when we start to understand How this works the amount of energy it's infinite energy cannot be created or destroyed but as soon as you make an attachment or an identification Brian that's what depletes it that's what depletes it and upon we'll use the word self-realization or Enlightenment or Master whatever word you want to use when when all of these things actually just fall away and they do they just fall away you now realize

that it's endless it's infinite There's no restrictions there's no restrictions to the energy that you can command there's there's no restrictions to anything in terms of your own creation in any way shape or form so the key to understand about that is where we make this identification or misidentification and that is the energy depleter and by doing the exercises in the book what you're doing is you're recognizing where you're attached to where you've Identified where the indentation is within your body you're able to see it consciously and then you delete it you become more and

more and more powerful and those are one of the universal qualities of what we really are power so you have a really handy um checklist of questions you can ask sort of analyze the energy that you're doing and it made me think I really want to get your opinion on this because I'm fascinated With it and something my realization of it has added to my energy so there's a Russian author that wrote a book called reality Tran surfing and he proposes that there are these things called pendulums which are energetic structures not the pendulum that

we swing but energetic structures that form when multiple people think about something it happens all the time when you know you feed on a vast scale with political parties everybody's addressing their Thought energy towards this thing and eventually this energetic structure almost becomes an egregor like it within the energy field you'd see these whales flowing around and they're literally just taking energy so it could be the for instance the recently we had the news event about the submarine everybody's talking about it it becomes a pendulum they're putting their energy on it and then it just

be it starts to take your energy and so when I started To become aware when I'm on my phone and and I'm into this group this idea or whatever and it's just like an energetic vampire taking my energy away and I reclaimed this energy some for a lot of people it might be some conspiracy theory or something they're obsessed with and it just uh you can almost see like it's a conscious entity and the whole intention of this entity is to take my energy and when I became aware of this I just you know you

you see like These energetic eager Gores constantly everywhere we're swimming in them taking our energy so when we when we reclaim our energy it's when we put our attention towards anything sometimes that the thing that we're putting our attention toward us takes it in a more significant way and it becomes a loop which we're you know I have these pendulums that are it can be as simple as a family our family can be a pendulum what is your opinion on this Is there ways for us to overcome this because you know we would be dead

if we didn't have to deal on some level with pendulums it's just interacting in in the culture and World we're in um but there may be strategies based upon what you're saying where we can deal with these energy these energies vampires uh that are all around us all the time yeah well whoever wrote that book is is got a good handle on some of this and by the way that's why they call It paying attention right because that you got it there is an energetic debit that is happening and that's why it's called paying attention

and has a lot to do with black magic and how this and how this realm is operated look over here look up okay let's take that's by the way I completely agree from a higher Consciousness perspective I completely agree with that person we can take it further okay anytime it it absolutely is An energetic debit right that's why we have to become completely mindful about being present only put your attention because your attention is energy only put your attention on what you want to grow right that's number one if everyone can just start to work

with that because attention is energy if you're putting your attention on something you are feeding it energy it will grow and as you do that you are paying attention to XYZ that is an energetic debit you are actually getting weaker and weaker and weaker oh maybe that's the idea about all these distractions oh interesting okay so let's let's take it let's take it one step further I'd like to take it one step further right okay yeah so the astral Realm okay and and from my perspective the Astro realm we're in the third frequent let me

give context for my direct experience we're in the third frequency Of the First full Dimension all this all physicality is within the First full Dimension once you get out of the First full Dimension and there's 12 Dimensions there's no such thing as solidity everything is a from a human perspective there's no such thing as solidity okay so we are in the third frequency energy exists frequentially not dimensionally Dimensions house frequencies okay so the astral realm is the fourth fifth sixth and seventh frequency what people call Dimensions just fine it's not accurate though so the fourth

fifth sixth and seventh are the astral Realms and those are the frequencies when everything that exists beneath that with you and I right and everybody else okay so when we start giving attention to a belief a concept a boogeyman whatever whatever it is a conspiracy theory right Satan this all this kind of Stuff right okay think about what I just said about attention is energy whatever you put your attention on grows okay we are constantly feeding and increasing the astral Realm it keeps expanding and getting thicker and denser and pressing down upon us because we

keep feeding it so how do we how do we combat this is by locking ourselves in the present moment that's the meditation right but the self is meditation the self exists prior to Thought prior to emotion prior to the body prior to bodily sensation parietal Incarnation so the self is meditation so once we start to marry ourselves to the present moment all of these things the pendulum pendulums the astral realm all these things go back to their natural state and as those things go back to their natural state your natural state which is communion with

your higher mind and your higher Self start starts to become resonant and starts to become permanent so the key is to have complete and utter control of your uh tension that very well likely may be a subject of a whole other book that I write in a whole other system in order for us to be able to do this but it is absolutely correct where your attention goes your energy flows only put your attention on what you want to grow and now that we know that if we know that the world is messed up And

it's got all this kind of stuff and okay we all know this most of us we all know this okay we'll stop then stop you you know it's you know it's a mess put your attention on what you want to grow that's really the key don't put your attention on this thing and that thing and keep increasing the astral realm which then just starts pushing down on us and that's actually I digress for a second I just want to say this I went to a city Uh I won't name the city I went to a

city it was fun it was a business trip right I went to a city you know great food and this and that right and as soon as I got there I I felt like I needed to take a shower right it's like I the astral realm because it's so densely populated you know it's a city because it's so densely popular all these beliefs all these fears all these things just adding to the thickness and the density of the Astral realm it was difficult for me to just go from the hotel to the meeting it's like

I was in soup I've had the same thing I've had the same thing maybe people get used to it like a bad smell when they when they live there they're not aware of it it's like a bad smell that you kind of just get used to because you smell it all the time but when someone when you go there um the the sense of the fear and the in the thought structure completely changes The color of the area that you're in it's amazing yeah literally literally and it was unbelievable it's like I couldn't I was

taking well I might as well admit it I was taking three four showers a day it's like I can't get this and it wasn't physical you know it wasn't like I was rolling in the mud it was the density and the thickness of the astral realm and wherever there's a lot of people the the frequencies are always lower and Denser because for the most part we're not self-realized so we're constantly identifying ourselves with all these things which which makes the as we just said it makes it incredibly uncomfortable and it was unbelievable to be back

in a city and I'm gonna do everything I can to try to not have any business meetings in a city what do we do when we find this find Ourselves in this I've had this happen when I've gone to large concerts I've had it and there's some there's there's some part of the empath journey in there as we awaken we're more empathic but I I've noticed it in movies and in in in crowded cities that I go to um it's the you can feel the pervading fear um thoughts that just is there is there a

technique or way that we can maneuver because we have to if we're going to be Of service and help others we have to maneuver in these unusual environments is there ways for us to to do that other than take three showers a day right it isn't necessarily practical right so okay something what we could call this as a psychic Shield if you want to call it that the image that I that I often use is um think of uh a castle like where maybe Merlin and King Arthur were in a castle right now the castle

is surrounded by The water right the moat right okay right so to pretend to protect the castle right they they instituted that the drawbridge right so when the drawbridge is down anybody can go you know go in and out of the castle right but when we bring that drawbridge up that castles protect in theory right that castle is now protected you really can't get to it it takes a tremendous effort now to get to it okay so I want everyone to start thinking of themselves As raising their own drawbridge and becoming your energy field becomes

impenetrable now the key to doing this or one of the one of the keys to doing this is through non-identification so in other words let's look at it this way let's I'll try to I'll try to get to a faster way to do it The Seer what is seen And the act of seeing is one thing okay now that feels different when you do that right okay so what what's happening what's happening that by the way that's a a fast way for enlightenment by the way if you can stay that way so what's happening our

physical eyes don't see this Brian but the higher mind can can literally see this and we can feel this okay so what's happening is your your Energies are no longer leaking out And therefore being affected by the environment just what we were talking about right now when we do what I just said your energetic drawbridge comes up and now you're unaffected for the most part you're unaffected by the environment now you can walk through anything it doesn't matter what's going on it doesn't matter if it's a raging storm or or if you're doing you're doing

battle with astral entities this is this is one way that you can actually do this Now and just imagine your energy coming up like a drawbridge and see it around you above you to the side of you beneath you and then feel it the severe what a scene and the act of seeing itself is one thing now feel feel your energy around you and then just maintain that drawbridge now nothing can touch you because you're no longer in a state of identification You realize through the Seer would have seen in the act of seeing is

one thing you are now whole and complete which is the truth you are now whole and complete and the only reason why we get affected this way is because we're identifying with what is going on we take it personally the subconscious pattern egoic mind takes everything personal well timelessness is not personal so when we work with Timeless teachings We become invisible we become uh nothing can affect us but that's that's one way to do it and it's it's really as you know people that are in general more evolved and empathic have a much harder time

around groups of people and that was just a crazy reminder of what it's like to be in a city with the astral Realms it's kind of crushing down on us but if we try if we start to use what I just said you'll feel much better and it's a way To it's a way to maintain energetic hygiene now knowing of course that it's all one energy at the same time there are we have Transformers and this energy is transformed and there's different flavors of it uh and so there's a discussion I had in a recent

episode I'd like to get your feel for it the rosicrucians sort of teach it teach ignore the lower energy centers because you're going to be working those that's Just this frequency right um this frequency is all about the solar plexus the sacral and the root and there you've done enough work on that work on the heart first then then the throat then you know the pineal and and Crown chakras um then I've had others say you really need to also focus on those lower chakras to keep a balance and if they're blocked then you're not

getting the proper energy flow there's like dueling Philosophies about this what is your opinion when we when we talk about these energy centers which have been talked about in with in multiple phases that clearly there's something it's not just one teaching and in multiple places have taught about these energy centers should I focus on those lower ones and try to balance them all or should I continually try to work on the heart up it that's a great question it depends on What kind of experience you want to create for yourself so Rosicrucianism is a beautiful

uh deep deep connection to Rosicrucianism it's conception and Inception so if we if we looked at this the Age of Enlightenment which led into a Rosicrucianism by focusing on when we go to the fourth frequency by the way when we start reincarnating back into the fourth frequency not here on the third frequency those those three chakras will Be banded together into one chakra but we'll just be operating on the top four chakras by the way right it's important it's important to know okay it depends upon what type of experience you want to create for yourself

now we cannot be in denial self-denial in terms of what's going on with the lower chakras okay that's foolish it's absolutely foolish but at the same time if we're looking to transcend Elevate and expand we have to then put our focus on the fourth fifth Sixth seventh chakras without a doubt but not at the uh denial of what is going on with the third chakra so we just want to keep the third chakras uh maintaining its proper functionality that's how I say it just make sure that it's operating properly and one way to do this

I'll get right to well what do I do if they're not operating property okay so a very simple thing right very very very simple right you take two fingers right I do this for People to open up their heart chart you take two fingers put it on whatever chakra that feels and I often start with the heart right we'll do it together Brian two finger any two fingers whatever just take two fingers gently place them in the center of your chest don't you know push just place them there okay then just bring your awareness your

recognition to the sensation of touch Right there in the center of your chest bring all your awareness gently to that don't analyze it don't judge it don't measure it you're completely and utterly focused gently on that sensation of touch right there nothing else exists but that now gently Reach Out From inside your chest and touch your fingertips okay what you just did if you did it what you just did is you extended your heart chakra and you fully opened it now that is the key to health contrary to anything else that you're going to hear

that is the key to health the chakra system or the energy Transformers and metabolizers it's not food it is not that's an illusion it is the the chakra system is the whole key so by extending and opening the chakra system you become energized and you're it's it's self-repair and self-cleaning by an order of magnitude do that for any stuck chakra if you have an issue with your your thyroid I'm just picking something you have an issue with your thyroid address just what we just did right here And do the exact same thing if you have

other issues with other organs find out the corresponding chakra that goes with that and do exactly what I just said and watch what starts to happen in terms of your health and your energy level that's really the key so to come back to to come back to your question Brian if we want to lead a more elevated life not at the denial that we're having a physical experience that's not what I'm Saying but if we want to lead a more elevated life the focus does have to be on the top four while maintaining proper functionality

of the bottom three chakras right and the most problematic for me is is is the root because people sometimes are are so afraid that they close that up um in my own experience but and generally you're you know if if your goal is to awaken those higher chakras Are key now when your third eye is open you can kind of see energy fields in other people and yourself and you can see that some people have a very closed-in energy field and some people can have a very expansive one and if you you can see somebody

walking through a mall and their Energy's literally covering you know everybody um is it better for us to have a larger energy field or to keep it consolidated Should we practice actively extending our energy field outward or is that irrelevant and not important oh that's another that's a very interesting question Brian okay I always do uh I've lost my mind right so so I do I do everything the opposite way so I I direct that inward now when when I direct the focus inwardly what starts to happen is the everything is within your consciousness okay

God is within your Consciousness There are many rooms to my father's house right the kingdom of heaven lies within right okay so if we start to work that way instead of expanding it outward okay I'd say what I do I do the opposite I bring it inward so far that the higher mind just blossoms now the the extra sensory perception clear sentience Clairvoyant declares just and there's a lot more than those by the way just start to open up But it's because the focus is inside so when the focus is inside that's gnosis that is

knowledge of self through knowledge of self we'll start to realize that the greater reality is within your Consciousness the universe your universe is nested within the Multiverse our mind has a blueprint of the entire Multiverse and we populate it with our experiences by going inward if we're going outward from my perspective that's the wrong direction So if you go in what actually happens is this happens because you're experiencing more of the I am the full complete I am and as you experience more of that this starts to happen if the focus is on sending energy

out here right I I think what happens is we're subject to the interpretation of the pattern subconscious egoic mind or the intellect which has nothing to do with gnosis or self-knowledge so for me if you go in Brian But properly if you go in the expanded state of awareness will happen automatically and then the knowingness of what is going on will be in relation to the knowingness of the self and for me that that that's the optimal way to do it I believe it's a real thing when when people say I'm sending you light and

love and obviously some people think it's a cliche for me it's a real thing Um can I send my like and what is the best way for me to do that oh I'm just glad you asked that yes yes I mean that that's what this is all about right this is the whole that's the whole thing Brian what you just said that's the whole thing okay yes we send love and light that's what is we are like we are love right don't get in the way don't get in the way just share it Endlessly non-stop

right give receive give receive good let it just do this right you you can never run out of what you actually are you can never run out of love you can never run out of wisdom it's actually what we are absolutely I mean I won't go there of course we send love and light and actually in a lot of ways being here is to is to fill this realm to infuse this realm with our love and light That's actually the the point that's it so of course oh my dog likes that she's getting carried away

so that is it's absolutely real and if people think that isn't real they've they've collapsed their consciousness to the point where they're in self-denial and the only thing that's left is if I can't hear its you know spell it taste it touch it it doesn't exist they've they've dropped themselves into Materialism and right next to materialism is nihilism I promise you now there's no purpose and there's no meaning to anything it's absolutely not true the real purpose is what you just said to send love and light to infuse this realm with who and what we

really are and a rising tide lifts All Ships and so there are definitely people that have that have come back from the fourth frequency with that in with that only purpose just uh to bring more light into This frequency um that that's at least my perspective um you know and that's when I meet somebody like you I I can see that your inner intention and coming back is to bring this light um and as you awaken you meet others um these lighthouses almost to to make sure to protect you from the Rocks as you come

to the shore and tell you a place that you can go and that's just being is the greatest service once you Have accessed that light right that's it that's it oh you got it right and the only thing we have to do right is get out of the way right get get per what I call personhood get personhood out of the way the ego mind identity and all its uh get that out of the way and then the only thing that is emanating is your love your wisdom and your light and that that to me

like that's the whole point that's it that's the point why I'm here is to do That and my specific you know talents and abilities as it relates to that that's the whole reason why I'm here to infuse this realm with that love and light it's exactly what this realm needs at this moment are these understandings or these teachings this specific vibration it's like adding just the right spice to a stew that you're making and you just add that little bit of special oh perfect now we can eat So it's a silly analogy but but it's

so true it really is yeah so the book is change your mind deprogram your subconscious mind rewire the brain and balance your energy coming out on August 8th so I'm going to release this episode on August 8th so that means right now go to Amazon I'll have a link in the description and you can be at the Forefront of this amazing teaching and if you have an intention to bring light To the world and have a desire to reprogram your subconscious mind this is a great place to start RJ has is is proved his teachings

by his own life in the way that his life has come about you it's so this is not just talk uh he has given himself as you said a guinea pig um so when you read these words you can apply them in itself well I know there are people that are lost and struggling on how they want to reprogram their Subconscious they're aware that their energy is low that they don't really know their real self and so this is a really great place to start I can't recommend it enough RJ thank you so much can't

wait to talk to you again soon um you got the third book on the way right you're you're thinking about it you're working on it the Brian first off thank you very much Brian thank you for the kind words uh yeah I I look forward To talking whenever we're going to talk again we'll be great got it I I did hand in the third book has already been handed in so change your mind comes out August 8th and believe it or not the third book we're still we're still debating the title the third book comes

out August 8th of 2024. fantastic how exciting is that so um so thank you so much keep up the amazing work ascendthefrequencies.com um to get more information uh and Welcome to the reality Revolution [Music] foreign [Music]