why are we here well we are in a mortal Limitless indirect fractal of God so the only thing that an immortal perfect Divine Limitless and direct fractal if God wants is experience that wants this experience that experience Human Experience and experience 21st century experience 38 self-century experience and by the way they're all happening right now so it just wants experience right and through the experiences it learns and evolves and what it learns and evolves is about itself this unlimited Divine indirect fractal of God [Music] and welcome to Passion Harvest I am Luisa your host thank
you so much for joining us today our guest is RJ spinner he healed himself from permanent paralysis R.J spinner teaches that all your unrealized potential ill health and limited personal success will undergo complete transformation through the same process he used to heal himself of permanent chest down paralysis and severe chronic illness his self-realization technique has already completely changed and saved the lives of many across the globe RJ spinner is the author of supercharged self-healing this is his story and this is his passion RJ spinner welcome to Passion Harvest thank you very much for having me
it's my pleasure I've got so many questions to ask you but perhaps for those of the audience that don't know anything about you would you mind sharing a little bit about your incredible story and your incredible journey from paralysis and chronic illness to health April 23 2016 I became uh air quotes permanently paralyzed from the chest down I was told I'd only live another 48 hours I was diagnosed with multiple multiple diseases from Hashimoto's severe autoimmune disease type 1 diabetes pancreatitis thyroiditis and something called autonomic dysreflexia which can be lethal for paraplegics and quadriplegics um
the body the autonomic system which regulates your heartbeat your breathing your your pulse this just goes Haywire it's no longer it's no longer automatically regulated so all those things were occurring all at the same time and I had a what's uh I had an emergency life-saving surgery and the type of surgery is called the laminectomy and it's where they literally scrape off the infection off of your spine uh and there's a video of this people can see it uh there's the surgeon's notes I filmed myself on paralyzing myself because believe it or not in the
ICU uh when I woke up from emergency life-saving surgery the best way to say this that I had a I had fully awakened into authentic Cosmic Consciousness and I remembered and that's the word that I use I remembered how healing works like I used to say as a kid if I get sickle to see myself but it's kind of like that veil of forgetting had been removed and it's like all the all the know-how if you will was was right back in my hands and in the ICU I literally started explaining that I would put
myself back together I'm gonna walk I'm gonna heal myself and in exactly 100 days I'm gonna walk unassisted and as I said I went ahead and had the nurses the physical therapists everyone film this process because they knew no one would believe that this was actually going to happen and the one guest that I had while I was in the hospital rehab for about uh about two about two months give or take um was a Chinese medicine expert and so he was the only one that was seeing me he was my only guest and he
was witnessing and participating in this uh healing this extraordinary impossible it's not this extraordinary impossible healing and uh he's the gentleman who wound up writing the forward for the book because he he wanted to be able to capture also from his perspective what was really going on because as he says in the forward if he didn't witness it firsthand he would have said this is this is impossible this level of healing is is not possible and it's certainly not possible in a hundred days like the exact day that this guy predicted so uh that's if
I made a a long story longer I apologize but uh it is a it is a knowingness it's a different sort of level of understanding of things of the self that we can relate to self-realization or Enlightenment self-healing and self-realization are not the same thing but they're interconnected and really since that day I was able to walk unassisted in 100 days um I wrote a book as you're well aware of and I've since since then even as soon as I got out of the hospital rehab I've been teaching people through the Chinese medicine expert who
would bring me to his uh his Clinic I've been teaching meditation metaphysics uh the mechanics of self-healing and self-realization really since then and so that kind of brings us to today so a big congratulations for those of the audience that haven't read your book supercharged self-healing how did you do it I know you have a seven step process how did you do it right that that's right that's the question right how did you do that so um the the Louise are the shortest answer is the way that I describe it is it's it's the deconstruction
of the false self okay now when I say that without me going on and on and anyone who knows me I end up going on and on I'll try not to so the deconstruction of the false self this is what we call the ego or the egoic mind or the the human character or what I have renamed which is hopefully uh more accurate uh the ego mind identity so it's the false self that we think we are how we feel about ourselves and therefore interrelate with the world that's really all the things that we've accumulated
and identified with since our trip to earth now every thought that we have is in context to something we've identified ourselves with since we got here so in that sense none of those things are actually you so it is the appealing away if you want to think of an onion peeling away appealing away appealing away to you get to actually what you really are and you can call that self-realization if you want or whatever word you want to use but it was the tangible experience of having no identification and being able to work with myself
at the very core of what I really am and from there we're able to do and that's what I outlined in the book I found I found myself doing these seven things over and over and and over again and I really didn't stop until I was healed until I could walk as I predicted 100 days from there so the that's the long answer the short answer is the deconstruction of the false self or the removal or disintegration of the ego mind Identity or what we call the egoic mind I understand what you're saying but it
sounds incredibly hard in our humanness to even attempt that I I would say yeah from the app maybe from the outside looking in that sounds um impossible extraordinary difficult I I'm here to tell you it's actually the opposite so in actuality believe it or not uh enlightenment is the easiest thing in the world because it's the only thing here and now and so I had this experience and believe it or not even what goes beyond Enlightenment I had this experience when I woke up from emergency life-saving surgery and it became sort of this effortless effort
to simply just maneuver manipulate command high frequency energy and bring it into uh my my subtle bodies of energy and then my physical body but once the thinking mind is just silenced there's nothing to do but the creation there is no doubt there is no wonder how does this work I don't think it's really going to happen except it literally was not occurring there was no thought process whatsoever it was a knowingness and I simply just followed my own higher intuitive functionality which flows on the River of intuition which is what we call wisdom so
I just simply followed exactly what it is that I that I knew that I needed to do it's quite effortless and for those that are looking to heal themselves whether it's mental emotional physical are all the above all of those issues belong to the false character and so when you begin to remove the false character the issues that belonged to the false character leave as well so it's the it's the Paradigm Shift of not treating the body it's actually removing the egoic mind and then along with that it's story of disharmony goes with it I'm
just thinking I mean me included but all those stories we tell ourselves the egoic mind you know the worries the fears the doubts the unworthiness it causes so many problems and it it seems so real it sure does uh but being present and not thinking is our natural state and it just takes a little practice we've gotten very we've gotten out of alignment so in other words the egoic mind for you know for most of us just sort of a Non-Stop freight train thinking thinking thinking thinking right well by just practicing which is what I
put in the beginning of the book is I talk about the ego mind identity and what I'd call magic tricks uh to overcome the spell of the ego mind identity and these magic tricks literally work in one second so people now can meditate in one single second and then all you do is maintain that presence that beingness and take your beingness and put it into your doingness now the ego of mine has no place in any of that and it's it's the simple command of energy most of our energy is in our lower after and
all mental and our mental body which is why we don't stop thinking well if you just let that energy drop down just like water draining from a bathtub and let that energy return to where it sits within our physical body which is just beneath the belly button above the groin your mind instantly becomes clear there's no emotions roiling now you're simply pressing now as you notice this doesn't require an effort so how difficult can it really be to do something that doesn't require any effort so that's really the the starting point and from there the
the book and the courses and all these other things teach you how to command the energy that you've been using for doubt and emotions to command that energy and harness it properly with the single pointedness of focus and channel that energy to exactly where you needed to go within your physical body and then on top of that learning to command higher frequency energy which is by opening your crown chakra and allowing that energy to come in like a waterfall and as soon as people start doing that it's tangible you can feel the electric charge going
through you and that's the tangible um realization that you that you actually are healing yourself and so once you learn how to command the energy and the egoic mind is not running rough shot I mean your your ego will gladly destroy your life just to be right so we have to have to reclaim our sovereignty and how we do that is by controlling our energy we use our energy for everything so if you want to lead the most successful life it only stands to reason that you have to have control of your energy since we
use energy for everything and the book will teach you step by step on how and we just did one little magic trick about just dropping the energy down it's it's this simple I'm not going to say it's that easy because we've been out of balance for a while but it is this simple and it's a repeatable process that that anyone can do just to clarify it's not what you just said but it's not only for healing it can be for all aspects of our life yeah this yeah this is what um yes absolutely so many
people that I work with uh they come to me for healing whether it's mental emotional physical but some people don't come to me for that at all what they come to me for is they're trying to lead a better quality of life and they just can't seem to align themselves with themselves properly whether it's a self-control or self-discipline by working with your energy and learning to harness your energy and using single pointedness of focus people are realizing that the the achievements that they can experience in this life are truly unlimited because when you're working with
yourself directly the unlimited self the I am if people are familiar with the I am the I am is unlimited it's an indirect fractal of God it has no limitations we build parameters and limitations through the egoic mind so once we've learned to command the energy and not let the energy go into the egoic mind we're able to use our imagination a higher mind and align ourself and our energy with that and with that comes achievement and manifestation of goals humans suffer I mean perhaps suffering is a choice we suffer so incredibly why do we
have the ego it's just a term and a name that we can relate to but why the the ego or what I call the ego mind identity uh it's created through incarnation so and our in our Natural State and our natural environment we are not incarnate we would what we term disincarnate we are an energy being or having a temporary physical experience and the physical experience we're having has to do with the suit that we wear whether human or alien so the ego mind identity is created through the Incarnation as you are descending dimensionally and
frequentially essentially you're losing connection to what you really are and where you come from and for most of us by the time that we get here our connection our disconnection is complete we no longer know who we are where we come from what we're doing here what the point is how to operate properly so instead of reaching within and sort of rekindling that connection to our own higher mind than our higher self we do the opposite we create a false character based upon identification with the suit and then everything else that we that we tend
to agree with or we allow ourselves to agree with so the the economic identity is created through Incarnation the interesting thing is that at least from my perspective the interesting thing is is that it's absolutely necessary uh having it having an ego having an ego mind identity and and I'll explain so the the ego or the ego mind identity is like the glue that keeps what you really are here so you can never ever and I've tried twice maybe I'll get into that so you can never completely annihilate or remove the ego mind identity because
when you do you can't stay here you literally eject out of your body and I've done this repeatedly and I'm like okay I guess I'll just stop because there's no point in this so we all have to have the ego mind identity okay the key is is to not let it make any decisions in your life so here's here's the analogy right so if you get in your car we want to be The Driver of our Incarnation our true self right our soul our Consciousness our sentience our love our I am however you want to
say that we want that to lead the Incarnation because that's really what we are so imagine driving your car right now we know now that the ego or the ego mind identity must remain with us because it's the glue that keeps us temporarily merged with the physical form so how I view it or talk about it is that it's kind of like picking somebody up for the ride because the ego mind is going to be with you the whole Incarnation but you tell them to get in the back seat keep your hands to yourself and
I don't want to hear a peep I'm driving okay now it's just it's just an analogy but yeah I love that yeah it's effective and and that way you're being true to yourself and you're not just doing a poor imitation of mimicry based upon whatever it is that you've agreed to align yourself with here you can truly be yourself but you can only have free will and truly be yourself when the ego mind identity is in the back seat not reaching for the will and not yammering about what to do I can absolutely relate with
that but gosh that person in the back seat continues talking a lot he's our true self that's a great question okay for from my tangible experience what what we are okay we've used the word Soul that's that's been used right from who knows how long okay I found there's a little more accurate ways to understand what we really are so what we really are is what I call sentience now sentience is a Divine intelligence that's the indirect fractal of God and I say indirect because we're a projection of our higher self okay so this Divine
intelligence really is our level or amount or believe it or not weight of our love and wisdom and the subsets of that are talents and abilities now we what we are at our core is exactly that this is sentience a Divine intelligence that's what we are now this sentience or Divine intelligence is given energy to create now this energy we use for everything as we talked about earlier we use energy to think to emote to animate the body as I talk with my hands to even to create an Incarnation requires energy right okay but we
are the sentient given energy now those two things Lop together have been what we have called The Soul uh I don't think it's I don't feel that it's completely accurate for my direct tangible experience we are this Divine intelligence that uses energy to constantly create that's that's what we really are just like we are not what we create the painter is not the painting and so it's important not to lose yourself in your creation such as the ego mind identity and the Incarnation itself and this way you can stay true to what you really are
and operate at a high frequency way and create the life that you truly desire that's reflective of your own love and wisdom and talents and abilities you explain that so beautifully thank you so I'm asking hard questions in your opinion well this show's about you today but why what is the point what is the purpose sort of it all why are we here another big question yes okay so uh there's many ways that I've explained this I'll I'll explain it this way today right okay what we are most people even scientists today talk about that
energy cannot be created or destroyed right it just is it just changes form okay there's a lot of Truth in that that's not the whole picture but there's a lot of Truth in that so what I'm saying is what we really are is immortal okay there's no such thing as death physical death is astral rebirth and astral death is physical rebirth the key is to transcend that cyclical nature through the identification with those temporary forms and when that happens self-realization actually self-mastery is really what starts to happen Okay so why are we here well we
are in a mortal Limitless indirect fractal of God so the only thing that an immortal perfect Divine Limitless and direct fractal if God wants is experience because it's immortal that wants this experience that experience Human Experience and experience 21st century experience 38th Century experience and by the way they're all happening right now so it just wants experience right and through the experiences it learns and evolves and what it learns and evolves is about itself this unlimited Divine indirect fractal of God so we are having this experience because the lower frequencies of the physical Universe which
is where we're at we're in the third frequency not the third dimension we're in the third frequency of the physical universe we can actually experience physicality solidity and therefore a sense of limitation so what does a limitless being want to experience limitation what's that like what's it like to be limited to not be connected to everything all at once which is our Natural State what's it like to be disconnected that would be a fascinating experience sign me up for that because that's interesting death there's no such thing as death but what would it be like
to actually think that you're gonna die that you don't exist after that again it's an experience of limitation because an immortal Limitless being does want to experience everything and some of those things that it wants to experience believe it or not are what you and I call limitations now that's one of the reasons I won't go on and on and on it's one way that I the one way that I answer that but the the counter to that is that when we work with ourself optimally we can actually transcend those limitations even even when we're
here and if you want to call those that state of being Enlightenment or self-mastery that's fine but we can ReDiscover our connectivity to our own higher self and really to everything within the greater reality even when you're here and the growth comes from when things are most difficult and nothing is more difficult than a physical Incarnation into the lower frequencies of the physical universe so this is as challenging as it gets now we also do that because the reward is greatest and I'll give I'll give a silly analogy and that silly analogy is we've all
watched um diving like olympic diving off the board right now if someone does a swan dive right and they do it flawlessly right they don't get a 10 because that dives too easy that's a eight maybe an 8.5 because it was perfect but it's an easy dive then someone else gets up there and does a triple backwards somersault flip etc etc right and they do a really good job but that's not perfect but they do a really good job with that that's a 9.5 maybe even a 10 degree of difficulty now what it is that
the this Immortal self is after which is an indirect fractal of God which is the same thing what God is after is its own Evolution its own self-understanding now the opportunity to learn more about yourself happens when things are most difficult by doing the triple backwards somersault etc etc this Incarnation as a human being in this specific timeline is about as difficult as it's ever going to get I promise you so what that means is there's the opportunity for our love and wisdom to deepen and accrue through the difficulties that we that we face when
we're incarnate within the low frequencies of the physical universe so we kind of put those two things together we start to understand part of why we're even here you opened up a whole box of incredible questions to ask you I won't go on for hours but you also talk about how to never reincarnate again and many people I'm sure ask you this I don't want to be here why did I come here how do you not reincarnate again um okay that's another really good question okay uh I'll answer that okay let's let's look at Karma
okay because I think that's something that's really misunderstood or it's a term that's used very Loosely maybe without uh uh certainly a tangible or specific understanding of what it actually is okay so uh second really silly analogy think of Spider-Man shooting his spider web to whatever and now Spider-Man is now stuck to whatever he shot his spider web to okay so karma is the spider web so it is whatever that we become attached or addicted to here whatever that is that prevents your own Evolution and your own Ascension so if you're stuck and what you're
stuck with is your own energy because you become addicted or attached to a thing a drug an experience body bodily Sensations wealth uh knowledge whatever that you become attached and addicted to you are now stuck to that so you're not going anywhere okay so karma is really the glue that that keeps you from your Consciousness evolving with the greatest efficacy and therefore you have to keep reincarnating because in that sense energetically through a lack of self-realization you're now stuck here you can only undo that attachment Addiction in the place that you've got attached you can't
undo it in some other higher frequency or higher Dimension you're stuck here hence this is part of the this from my perspective this unnecessary need of a Perpetual reincarnation tens of thousands of times with billions upon billions of parallel conditions and parallel lives it's just not necessary from again from my perspective it's just not so learning how to never have to reincarnate again is simply through detachment so through Detachment the spider webs are cut and that spider web which is your energy all your energy returns to you and now you feel whole once again because
you have all of your energy with you so Detachment is actually power and through detach which is we're taught the opposite right everything here is the opposite so through Detachment you become powerful once again you're no longer stuck to anything here now once you have learned everything that you can possibly learn and you're not stuck to anything here there really is no need to come back and what it is that you're really learning about is you now if all your energy has returned to you the only thing you're really going to be experiencing is yourself
directly you won't be experiencing beliefs Concepts and identifications that you're using by being attached to them through your energy so it greatly accelerates the the uh the evolution of your Consciousness and therefore you're able to transcend the need to reincarnate so that's the short I could go on and on that's the that's the shortest answer of that if you want to sever all attachments and addictions to anything reclaim all your energy and keep experiencing and marinating within the self self-realization and then at a certain point there's really nothing here that you need to experience that
you would learn from it's like graduating high school I mean once once you graduate you don't say hey let me take eighth grade math again not going to learn anything from that and once you know yourself well enough and you're no longer attached to anything here there really is nothing here for you and this is one of the things that I teach in my more advanced class about how not to reincarnate again because we're just not doing it again from my perspective we're just not doing it again with the greatest efficacy and I'm obsessed with
efficacy in terms of the evolution of Consciousness and so is God God is obsessed with the efficacy of its own Evolution and the evolution of its Creations so this is how to work with yourself optimally and one of the ways to not have to keep repeating human incarnations when it's simply not necessary you ex you explain it fantastically thank you so much I just want to touch on two things you said which are part of some of my favorite subjects oh gosh I keep asking such big questions I'm I'm sorry you spoke about uh parallel
lives so I'm assuming that means multiple lives so multiple parallel realities of Louisa could you also spoke about multiple indicinations whether it's in the past or in the future that they're all happening now so I guess that's two questions um first the parallel realities are there multiple I'll give you an example are there multiple versions of Louisa yes too many to count okay yeah so so uh now I'll first give uh another silly analogy I like silly analogies and they're helpful okay so think of think of us think of a satellite radio I don't know
how many stations are available on a satellite radio hundreds maybe thousands I don't really know but lots and lots and lots of stations okay now if you have a satellite radio how many stations can you listen to at once one one at a time okay but yeah there are literally thousands of stations brought casting music right now right now but you can only listen to one song at a time okay now our brain how our brain works in general how our brain works is that it can only Experience One reality at a time now just
like all those songs are playing concurrently right now you can't listen to them and you can't experience them you can listen to one at a time but yet all of creation there's only one moment of creation seen from an infinite amount of perspectives so that's really the the easiest analogy to understand that everything is happening at once just like all those songs are playing right now but you could only listen to one at a time so you can only in general Experience One reality at a time and that has to do with what the local
environment that your body mind is attuned to when part of so you're only going to experience our local environment or the 21st century of Earth it's another way to look at that but they're all it's all happening right now okay so that's a quick snapshot about what what that kind of looks like and there's much more detail than that but that's the fastest way to say it a parallel or a multiple life of multiple louisas uh have to do when you make a choice okay existence is conscious various levels of consciousness but it's all God's
Source Creator okay so anytime There's an opportunity for evolution it's going to take place so what that means is when we have a choice right should I take this job or should I take that job or whatever you could pick any kind of scenario that you like can I move to New York or should I move to California or whatever so whenever there's a choice that means there's energy behind both of those possibilities now just like the radio we can only experience one of those choices or one song right but yet because there's energy behind
that other choice it actually comes to fruition and that actually gets manifested or created so there's a Louisa that lives over here and lives over here and married this guy and married this person and did this and did that now we can only experience just one version of Louisa but every time there's a choice a parallel condition is created because there's the opportunity for evolution within every one of those it just so happens that our human mind or brain at this point within the low frequencies in this timeline we can't experience the the multitudiness the
concurrent and parallel versions of creativity that are happening simultaneously just like all those radios and all those songs are playing right now how many can you listen to one but because everything is conscious it's all God it's evolving and learning so every time you make a choice and you think that you went to California and you did there's a version of you that also went to New York and to any other place that you were thinking about and so one incarnation one single Incarnation is such a gift because Upon A Life review we then review
all of those things we think that we just moved to California and you know got married and had two kids and you know died at 65 or you know whatever whatever it is right no that's one version of you just one one Incarnation you're going to have millions millions of versions of you and you're going to be able to review all that and you are going to be the wisdom and the love that is retained from all of those experiences the key is to bring that level of supreme intelligence into your life now by mastering
being present and shutting down the egoic mind now when you master being present all that wisdom from all these different experiences that are happening right now becomes available to you and it is fostered into you on the River of intuition which is how you taste your own wisdom but that only happens by being present so by being present and mastering being present we allow the Supreme intelligence to enter into our life that Supreme intelligence is what we are that's part of why it's so important to transcend the logic and linear linear subconscious patterned egoic mind
I know that was very long but that's part of why we want to do that because we will be guided in a way that we can't even fathom at this moment no that wasn't long that was fantastic um absolutely agree that I just love how you explained it just to touch on another big question and I'm sorry I we could talk about the weather but this is more exciting yes yes um it's cold um multiple reincarnations you spoke about before whether it's you know 2036 water it's all happening now all when my physical body dies
and I reincarnate it's all happening now is that is that your belief uh yeah I would say it's not a belief uh what I share is what I tangibly experience so therefore it's a level of gnosis or self-knowledge um the key is to transcend beliefs we use beliefs because we don't know so what I speak about is what it is that I experience directly what I teach is what it is that I experience directly so yes everything here's an image if this is helpful Louisa um think of a rubber band ball right okay think of
each rubber band as a timeline okay and they're all in the same space right and they're all intermingling touching one another and affecting one another okay it's one image of it I don't actually don't experience it quite like that I experience it like bubbles when you were a kid you used to blow bubbles that's actually how I experience it and we shift our Consciousness into each bubble based upon how we're vibrating and what it is that we desire to experience when you really lose your mind that's what starts to happen so uh when you go
above that and when I say above I mean frequentially or energetically I don't mean physically because it's all the same space so when I say you go above that think in terms of raising frequency or raising vibration so when you go above that you can actually look down at the playing field of the rubber band ball or all those different Bubbles and you're simply outside of it and all of it is taking place right now and you simply choose where you want to insert yourself in terms of your Incarnation you could after this or me
or anyone else after this Incarnation Louise it you could you'll be removed from that and then you could look at the the 12th century and be like you know I want to go in there forget logic and linearity it is such a reduction of what is that's just the way our brain processes things it's not the way things are at all at all right so we can choose where we want to go and don't think in terms of uh oh well it has to be you know the 22nd century is the next Incarnation that has
nothing to do with anything at all we are this Limitless and we can do anything we we really can it's just the parameters and the limitations that we impose on ourselves when those are removed you realize that existence is a blank slate you can create as you can fit and this is really what I really want to see for Humanity is to take back that kind of power by ushering in what I call the wisdom that transcends knowledge and hopefully what I share is RJ and put into this round the teachings will long outlive my
physical body and we'll be able to use these things ongoing and ongoing and ongoing because it will liberate us and free us not just from suffering mentally emotionally and physically but it will liberate us and free us from the confines of the egoic mind and therefore what it is that we're able to create and therefore experience well you're very very inspiring um just a last question on the linearity of time if time's not linear as we perceive it in our humanness and I understand I have multiple parallel realities of Louisa has my life is has
my life already been planned has my life already occurred and what we would term is the future what a great question okay great question and then we'll talk about the weather no I'm kidding these are great great questions um yes okay so when you say is my life planned yes absolutely and this is what's called a life plan Okay so let's let's go back to the rubber band ball right okay and so disincarnate not embodied you you quote unquote rise above that and you kind of see the playing field so to speak okay now before
you reincarnate or come back in you make a plan based upon what it is that you want to experience learn and evolve from that is the Life Plan you make what's called Soul contracts we've probably all heard these terms who you know what what family you're going to Incarnate into the the possibilities of who would be your life partner or perhaps children people that you're going to work with that you have this instant uh rapport with you're mapping all of this out before you get here the key is to align yourself with that so you're
working in unison with yourself and therefore the universe but the to answer your question absolutely life plan is uh we all do it you don't get to commandeer a physical vehicle without a worthy Life Plan there's a long waiting list for I promise a long waiting list a cue if you will to get a physical vehicle and one of the things that you have to have is a worthy Life Plan and when I say worthy meaning that there is it has been mapped out that there can be substantial evolution of your Consciousness and therefore other
people other Consciousness is well it's really one Consciousness but if it's worthy you get the blessing of getting getting a body if it's not you have to keep working on that to get something that is worthy for you to have you in a physical vehicle it's it's quite a hot commodity in the Multiverse I promise so yes we have a life plan all of us do uh and I'll let you know about mine for one second just for one second my last name is spina which means spine right and I became permanently paralyzed from the
chest down oh what a coincidence I think not I think not this was planned as when I used to say as a kid if I ever get sick I'll just heal myself my last name is means spine right so this is maybe more an obvious uh tapping into the life plan but we all do this we all do this you don't even get a body unless you have a worthy Life Plan so incredibly interesting I have to ask you when I when when I ask you about your beliefs and this is what you know where
do you receive your knowledge or your information from or who from uh well it would it would yeah it would make more sense if I said that I was getting downloads or I was communicating with my guys that now uh that's sort of true that's sort of true but the real truth is is that this uh information or knowledge or whatever is is me is my level of sentience I've simply removed the blockages which would be the egoic mind or the identifications to things and so what remains is what we really are so you could
think of it as me channeling myself my true self without Supreme intelligence that we that we talked about earlier so it's really me and with that level of uh awareness comes the ability to interact uh with the greater reality and understand things but really this understanding is really what I really am and our level of understanding our sentience is what we really are the Supreme intelligence that we are is so unfathomable that we we assume that we must be getting the information from from somewhere else it's not true we're it and when you remove the
blinders and remove the filters when you remove the beliefs the concepts and the ideologies then what remains is this supreme intelligence and it may look like it's a channeling or it may look like accessing not really I mean it's all one thing channeling doesn't even exist I mean if you really looked at it deeply I mean who are you challenging it's a different aspect of yourself it's all one right so at a certain level uh it's it's really your own Supreme intelligence that you're able to tap into when you remove all the blinders of beliefs
Concepts and identifications that was great thanks for clarifying that I've got two more questions if if that's okay with you um not a huge one what's what's your thoughts on angels and Spirit guides foreign what people call uh their guardian angels okay they're really guides and helpers angels are something completely different Angels help maintain the uh the maintenance of uh the environment or the Multiverse they help maintain it angels are not sitting on your shoulder and guiding you those are your guides and helpers and we all have them and on average we have between 12
and 15 every uh incarnate aspect or Soul normally has about 12 to 15. it can differ but they're real they're with you they're often with I mean they're with you 24 7. they're often with you over uh from a linear perspective they're with you for sort of long periods of time because they are helping you because they may be an expert in a certain field and most of them have not incarnated for the most part but they may be experts in certain Fields like people have a guide or a helper for their career for their
relationships for travel for health maybe they have a very specific goal within this information they're going to be working with I don't know mathematics they'll have a guide and helper that's helping them uncover and reach these uh conclusions uh in mathematics so guides and helpers are with us 24 7 literally uh and they're often with us for multiple multiple multiple incarnations angels don't operate that way they have a completely different role or function and that is to make sure that the reality looks the way that it looks that things seem to flow without major hiccups
in The Matrix they help simply maintain the the functionality and the structure of the Multiverse itself thank you and my my final question you probably get this a lot many many people are afraid of dying what what happens when our physical body dies okay okay there is no There Is No Death very important to understand there is no death it's just a change in scenery change in frequency change in dimension There Is No Death there's no such thing the only death we actually experience is when we're disconnected from our true self that's that's the only
real death so once once the Incarnation is over we no longer need this because the body is attuned to and part of the local environment once you've completed your life plan you no longer need it which is why the body stays here so what you really are your sentience that has commanded and been given energy like we were talking about before simply just leaves the body and then we'll go to where it needs to go to to sort of recuperate understand that uh that Incarnation is now over it starts to reacclimate itself to its normal
environment believe it or not so there's there's no such I mean there's so much to talk about in regards to that to try to sum that up but the the most important thing to understand is that there is no such thing as death no such thing as death as we said earlier physical death is astral rebirth astral death is physical rebirth from my perspective the key is to transcend both of those limitations by letting go of the identity to both of those temporary forms that's that's real self-mastery and then you kind of come and go
as you please at that point but there's no such thing as death and if we started to meditate from my perspective properly and we're able to literally leave our body first off you're going to feel like a million bucks I promise absolutely promise you won't have this thing this garment that we're wearing that's all low frequency it's like getting rid of some some clothing that just you've outgrown it's just trying to get rid of that clothing you're gonna feel much better I promise I've been doing this since I was a kid leaving my body leaving
my body leaving my body totally normal not just me it's just totally normal there is there is no death it's a change in scenery it's a change in Consciousness it's a change and self-understanding it's a change in what it is that you're able to experience just through intention it's Liberation the key is to experience that level of Liberation while you're still temporarily merged with the physical vehicle to feel that liberated and that free in that light even while you're here but there's absolutely nothing to fear that's the unawakened mind and we keep imagining worst case
scenarios first of try imagining that everything works out great if you fear death try imagining that everything works out great try doing that with your life instead of imagining worst case scenarios and torturing yourself with your own imagination imagine if everything works out yeah right just say to yourself how could this get any better let the Universe show you is there anything I haven't asked you RJ that you would like on a final note to share with the passion Harvest audience oh well I yeah okay and I I may have said this in other interviews
um but there is a lot of the experience of suffering is quite Universal and in fact it's really the lower frequencies the physical universe is really the only place that you can have that experience but what I want everyone to know that believe no that what you really are is Untouched by what happens to your body mind okay the body mind the suit right is part of and attuned to the local environment you are not the body mind you are what's inside of it temporarily immersed within this biological spacesuit so you can experience physical reality
so no matter what is going on with the body mind you are untouched forever just like the sun the sun is Untouched by the weather I don't care how much rain how much snow tornado hurricane I don't care for how long hundreds of years none of that weather touches the Sun and nothing here touches you ever it cannot it affects the body mind absolutely I was paralyzed it affects the body of mind but it doesn't touch you so know at your core that you are totally fine completely unscathed unharmed no matter what goes on here
and the key is to have that kind of Dominion that knowingness that dominion over your body mind and then no matter what is going on here you don't even have the suffering of the body mind you've transcended that through your own self-realization great way to live I'm going to try and put it in practice more and more and want a wonderful message for the world that you're spreading RJ thank you so much for being on passion Harvest really really you're an inspiration so thank you thank you for having me it's been my pleasure thank you
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