Landlords, what are your tenant horror stories?

Landlords of Reddit what are your tenants from Hell stories when I was a little kid my parents bought a cheap house in a neighboring town and fixed it up to rent two young women moved in and were great just out of college working entry level and kind of Getting By no trouble they called at 600 p.m. on Christmas Eve because there was a spider my dad called back when we got home from church service and asked what they Wanted him to do they said they wanted him to end it so he went out on Christmas

Eve to end their spider they seem to think that was normal like about on par with what you'd expect from your landlord the least he could do given the situation not a Horror Story by any stretch but it makes me laugh he told me I wasn't allowed to move out until I could end my own spiders because screw that story two my dad owns quite a few apartment buildings throughout Colorado One Summer while I was in college he was in between managers for one of his 80 unit properties so I acted as standing manager until

he hired a new one I can't say she was a worst tenant per se but I definitely have a few funny stories surrounding one woman named Kate one day we were served to notice that Kate was taking us to small claims court why well because her inunit washing machine wasn't working had she reported the problem in management no the maintenance Man and I entered the unit that afternoon to fix the washing machine and the problem it was unplugged same summer my dad awakens me at 2:00 a.m. saying the local police is at the apartment on

a shots fired report when I arrive at the apartment the place is lit up like Christmas with squad cars there must have been like 20 officers at the scene what prompted the call Kate and her friend were walking back from the bars hammered they heard two loud pops and Decided someone was firing at them what actually happened two guys launched a bottle rocket from a nearby balcony also worth of noting this happened on the 4th of July from what I know Kate is still a tenant I can call my dad and get some more Kate

stories if anyone is interested two other entertaining stories from when I was growing up are these when I was young my dad owned three duplexes in a row one winter around 95 I believe he noticed that the Energy bill for one of the units was exorbitantly higher than the other units he was curious about their energy consumption and paid a visit to the property one day while the tenant was at work I clarified with my dad and he gave the tenant notice 24 hours prior he was coming to perform an annual checkup of the fire

alarms he entered the basement and stumbled upon Hydroponics Galore he said that there were over 30 weed plants each with their own UV lamp and watering System while weed is legal in Colorado now well it certainly wasn't 21 years ago he told the tenant that he would be entering the basement in 2 days with a maintenance man to perform routine boiler maintenance and when he returned in 2 days the plants and hydroponics were gone growing up my dad always told me you could identify a grow house from a mile away because it was the only

house in the block that didn't have snow on its roof and the Second Story my dad Leased two or three units to the local Mormon church at the 80 unit apartment complex I helped manage for a summer the idea was the church would house their missionaries in my dad's units while they completed the mission as a result the apartment inhabitants would rotate every year or so well one rotation might my dad had a particularly UNM Mormon batch of Mormon missionaries this batch threw ragers so loud the noise could be heard four buildings away they were

also Known to frequent the local escort services and Associate a drug scene as you may imagine my dad had quite the uphill battle to fight when it came to addressing the missionaries extracurricular indiscretions with the Mormon church I do believe he eventually successfully evicted them though edit I talked with my dad and yeah more Kate stories unfortunately she did move out last summer though the unit that Kate lived in was townhouse Style with the First floor consisting of a onecar garage and a staircase leading up to the living area my dad's manager was posting a

few available units on Craigslist when she happened upon another curious posting Kate had posted the garage for rent on craigslist under the premise that someone could live in the garage and they would be able to come upstairs to use the kitchen and restroom the manager immediately marched over there to notify Kate that her posting violated The lease which specified no subletting as well as Colorado housing code which specifies a maximum occupancy of two people per bedroom plus one Kate lived in a one-bedroom with her husband and child Kate was unable to comprehend what the manager

was saying she just kept repeating but think of all the extra money we could make each month my dad said she simply could not wrap her head around the fact that her idea was violating a legally binding agreement And state housing code they had to get her husband involved to have her remove the post Kate called on Christmas Eve one year complaining that the heat would not turn on well my dad is a good guy and doesn't screw around with things like tenants being without heat so he immediately got up from the holiday dinner with

extended family to fix her problem the issue the breaker for the HVAC system was flipped when Tenants come into the office to pay rent my dad Always offers them water or ice tea one of his tenants accepted opened the fridge and grabbed one of the beers my dad has in there now without fail he always grabs a beer when he drops off his rent check which makes my dad chuckle my dad is buddies with one of the local mailmen whenever he has a tenant that screws him over by trashing the apartment or moving out in

the middle of the night the mailman will tell my dad they're new address my Dad Gives the mailman a gift certificate for a steak restaurant and a nice bottle of whiskey for Christmas every year they've had this arrangement for about 10 years now okay first things first insanely long post op you had a surprising amount of stories for this and second my favorite is absolutely the non-mormon Mormons the idea that they're going out hiring escorts and getting absolutely destroyed on drugs every night while on a Mormon Mission I don't know what to Call it I

think that's right anyway that's hilarious to me Story three I have a couple tenant from Hell stories in 2007 an older couple decided to quit paying their rent but they had pretty good excuses so I didn't evict them until after 3 months of not paying finally went down to the courthouse to file an unlawful detainer on them we finally had our day in court the female who is usually dressed nicely with fake nails and an expensive weave showed up Looking like an old hag the guy was using a walker and by the way didn't need

one they claimed I was a slum Lord and never fixed anything but I had receipts from every repair including a new AC unit after I got the Judgment against them I tried to garnish the man's wages was told he worked for cocacola Co and it turns out they'd never heard of him after a little digging I found out they'd both been arrested for selling Coke the officer Showed me mug shots dating back to the early 80s oh also they stole the fridge this past summer I had a family of seven move into a five-bedroom house

they paid their deposit and first month's rent that's it haven't seen another dime from them since to top it off they didn't get the power switched into their name so I got a $400 plus power bill about a month ago I called the water company it turns out they never had the water turned on so they've been stealing water the water Company pulled the meter I'll be the one paying to have it put back when I gave a 24-hour notice to do a walkth through with the police present the woman answered the door and told

me you can't come in and we'll get out when you follow all the procedures and the sheriff kicks us out I think they've done this before story four this happened to my friend's rental guy gets evicted instead of trash the place this guy freaking cut off chunks of drywall Put dead fish in the walls and sealed it back up tenant was a carpenter the owners couldn't figure out the smell for weeks they repainted got it professionally cleaned a few times searched endlessly eventually they figured something died in the walls and started knocking holes in the

wall turned out to be that piece of crap move by the tenant okay yes bad shouldn't do it is very disrespectful in a lot of things but that's that's kind of good Right a little bit at least a little good said like man absolutely got them would that technically be considered some sort of crime probably Story five I have a crazy SL manipulative tenant she looks after the place well but I wonder if the psychological damage is worth it early on in the teny she complained about the shower curtain sticking to her it's a shower

over bath setup and since she pays her rent reliably and keeps the place clean we thought oh okay what the Hell and pay to have a glass screen put in we specifically instructed that the glass screen go in front of the shower head as any sane person would after it's installed I get a complaint from her about how she has to turn the shower head 45° to stop the water from hitting the ground I go to inspect it and find the glass is inexplicably at the other end of the bath turns out she'd insisted that

the installer ignore our instructions and put it there for Whatever reason I don't know I told her that since she countermanded our instructions on something we were paying for that was now a permanent fixture in our property she was Bloody lucky we didn't charge her for it and that she was going to have to live with the setup she insisted on she asked if she could put a cat flap in the back door and we agreed on the provision she pay for it herself see we're learning and that it be a proper cat flap not

some home dodgy Version she puts in a rubber flap cat door which I personally wouldn't have gone with but whatever she's happy we let it go little did we know what that was leading towards after the first winter in the house she emails us copies of her electrical bills and says the house needs better heating because her bills are too high looking at the bills we agree her house must need better Heating and we we invest in a 7 Kow dyen split system she tries to tell us where To put it and we tell her

the installers have designated spot X as the most effective and that we're not open to Alternatives we instruct the installers to refuse to shift the unit learning once again to another location unless they deem it to be superior because she's not paying for it we are after the installation the installer says to us hey uh just to let you know the reason her bills were so high last year is that she pulled the cat flap into the open Position and left it hooked up that way all winter yes she created a deliberate hole between inside

and out left it fully open for an entire season then complained that her heating wasn't effective also she could score an expensive new heater that wasn't required at this point I started thinking is she really that manipulative would anyone deliberately freeze themselves to make me Fork out a few thousand for New Heating is it really That important for her to screw me over for no purpose surely not surely surely not next she asked permission to get a dog oh we said sure she then told us she'd purchase the puppy and it would be ready in

3 months oh but hey that side fence needs replacing or else he'll get out that fence would have needed replacing within seven or so Years anyway so we figure okay that's probably not entirely unreasonable we agree we're not keen on the way she's manipulated Things by getting us to agree to a pet and then using that to pressure us but we take the attitude that if we get the fencing job over with now it's done won't be a problem later then she says that the neighbors are drug buies and so she wants the fence extended

down the driveway to stop them hovering near her car we can see her point the neighbors are definitely not the greatest and constantly are in trouble with the police fair enough we think so we'll Look into doing that as well the druggies are evicted a few days later harah and Social Services put the house up for sale we put the fence on hold until the sale goes through a nice bloke buys the house and starts renovating it for his family great guy we replaced the fence at our expense and he helped with the labor however

we're not learning fast enough in fact we're total freaking idiot seems now she's not getting the dog After all the dog Ploy was sufficient to get the fence replaced so no dog necessary now she has a shiny new fence oh but no she's not happy she wants that fence extension put in but we point out the new guy is a quiet Family Man and no threat to anyone there is no need for fence extension so we won't be putting one in you have a brand new fence be happy she is not happy she sends me

a text about a week later saying that she really needs the fence extension put in Because and I quote the police are all over and there's dead bodies in the street as you can imagine I'm floored by this aside from the now long evicted criminals the house is in a nice Street mostly populated by retirees it is not by any stretch any kind of ghetto I ring the new neighbor to confirm and he says uh no no police anywhere and the street is as usual quiet he questions whether my tenant is schizophrenic God knows maybe

I think more likely she's just Compulsively manipulative because she's got a very clear endgame in all of this and she's showing remarkable dedication to coming up with complete bull crap to achieve it but anyway back to the police in the streets and dead bodies everywhere turns out there was an accidental carbon monoxide death of two people on a boat mored at the nearby Bay and police were attending the accident no crime nothing but a tragedy a couple of blocks away which was being attended To very respectfully by the authorities I tell her that no fence

extension is going to be forthcoming end of story or so I thought few weeks later she tells me she needs the fence extension because the neighbor's gate keeps swinging into her driveway and hitting her car I pop around to speak with the neighbor because God knows I can't trust a single word that comes out of her mouth and while I'm there he demonstrates that lo and behold the gate cannot in any way Enter her driveway even in a gale even if he swung it real hard it cannot enter here or there it cannot enter anywhere

on her property because the gate is inset from the end of the fence literally no way for it to swing past that point at this stage I told her through gritted teeth that I have spoken with the neighbor and that her car is safe from his gate in the 3 years she's been with us she hasn't had a rental increase and she's always paid a Substantially under market rate because it was more important to me to get someone who looked after the property than to get the best price for it however the very next time

I get some madeup psychotic bull crap from her that's designed to manipulate me into yet another expensive and unnecessary upgrade her rent is going to suddenly go up to Market comparable if I have to put up with any more of her crap by God she's going to start paying for it and If it means that she moves on and I take my chances with a new person oh then so be it I've already checked with the teny tribunal here and I can put the rent up by $50 a week to match the market rate without

them so much as blinking and that's just to make it Market comparable with the houses that don't have new fences and expensive heating she's gone radio silent for a few months now I hope maybe she's finally worked out that what she is on is a ridiculously sweet deal And she should quit while she's massively ahead I feel like of every thread I've read so far this has the longest posts by far this is only Story five by the way I don't know how far we into this video but five stories in whatever time it's taken

I'm sure is absurd landlords have a lot to say apparently anyway from the sounds of things op is a very accommodating landlord and well I'll be honest completely upfront about My Views I have Some gripes with landlords in general I think it would be a little better if they were all a little more like op I'm sorry that you have to deal with this tenant from Hell op you've been extremely patient story seven tenant rented an apartment that doesn't come with a parking space an apartment in the building that did come with a parking space

came available he asked if he could have it I told him it would be whatever extra per month he then started Posting propaganda all over the property about the injustices I had supposedly committed for not giving him a parking space for free he tried to get other tenants to sign a petition that would make me give up my parking space on the property and then he took us to court oh he lost but not with without just a freaking nightmare of his little crap of personality and sociopathic tendencies the most annoying aspect of it all

was the fact he was this bull crap hippie Dude who was all about peace and positivity Vibes and teaching yoga and stuff wrong him though and he was the most toxic human you'd ever meet Story 8 used to have a job that involved cleaning and minor repairs of rental apartments and houses between tenants usually it was easy enough but the ones who were evicted often made it a point to wreck the place on the way out one particular jerk decided to pack plumbers putty into the sink and bathtub drains Then turn on the Taps before

he left they had to get professional contractors to fix most of it but I got to rip out a bunch of stinky wet carpet and water damaged floorboards story nine my parents had some attendance when I was probably seven or eight that never paid the rent and they wound up getting evicted my parents decided that they would save some money and we would just clean the place up ourselves that was the worst idea ever I didn't know what a Lot of the stuff I saw that day was until much later in life the first thing

I saw when we walked in the door was a fish tank full of dead exotic fish in the bedroom we found used rubbers used tampons and used needles like just lying around once we saw that bedroom my parents gave up and hired a cleaner but I heard what else they found they found a cat shoved into the toilet of the master bathroom it was terrible edit for those wondering my parents did report Them for animal abuse SL neglect unfortunately nothing came of it story 10 you used to work in lettings we had a young couple

move into a house they were young and were using benefits to pay their rent but the landlord wanted to give them a chance two months later we got a call from a locksmith contracted by the police the police had raided the house the night before because the young man was a drug dealer they had literally smashed the front door frame out the Wall and the locksmith had been called in to make good we called the girl the young man was in police custody and she couldn't afford the rent and wanted out of both the tency

and the relationship we made a house visit to check the state of the door if was pretty bad they had a dog in a house with a no pets policy and it had been shut in the bedroom a lot feces and shoe marks SL scratch marks everywhere and they had smoked no smoking policy and the house stunk of Stale cigarettes the landlord agreed to let them out of the teny and get the house back on the market it cost thousands to put the house right new front door redecorate all new carpets it was just about

ready to advertise when we had a call from the neighbor there had been a disturbance the night before and he had to call the police the young man upon being released from police custody and unable to get back with his girlfriend had broken back into the Property a couple of days earlier to squat he then had a visit from his supplier he owed a lot of money to his supplier ended up stabbing him he almost bled to death on the brand new cream carpets once we'd got more new carpets in and fixed the broken window

from where he'd broken in we found a new reputable tenant a nice young man who was actually a drug counselor which turned out to be good because a lot of the local addicts didn't get the memo About their dealer being arrested and then stabbed so he had a lot of visitors in the beginning and he knew how to deal with them also another woman with the mental health issues tried to end both herself and her kids by burning the house down they all got out alive and she got help oh and another guy threatened to

end me because he owed rent and couldn't pay and I made him feel guilty he got a visit from the police you know with me knowing where he Lived and all story 11 two-bedroom unit rented to two girls grown woman mind you with jobs Etc complained there were roaches previous tenant had no roach problem we even cleaned it and so none we get it taken care of and still complained there were more now we're thinking she or her roommate brought them skip to them both leaving on October 31st we get the key and check the

unit and it is trashed they left most of their garbage behind bottles on The counter glasses plates Cutlery clothes shoes food all over the place and roaches of course lots of them we call junk removers and they don't remove unless it's roach free called Pest Control they advise to remove the things before they do their jobs FML story 12 my parents have owned properties for a while so there are a number but the one that I'm personally invested in is the Last Tenant they decided to rent out my childhood home And I suggested it to

a cooworker I had worked with this woman for several years and thought that she and her family were decent people I trusted them they brought bed bugs into the place did quite a bit of damage to the walls they also pulled out and sold a 100-year-old hardwood trim removed the central air unit and sold it and generally screwed the place up they then proceeded to skip town after being kicked out once they found out that their wages were being Garnished show up to your court dates kids having tenants leave behind piles of trash horrifying bathrooms

and holes in the walls is common but I hold a bit of a grudge on this one specifically yeah essentially being betrayed by people that you kind of knew and trusted that sucks the bed bugs thing probably not their fault like they wouldn't do that intentionally but all the rest of it like come on man and then skipping a court date and then skipping Town crazy These people were not out to play by the rules story 13 when I was a teenager my family rented our downstairs unit to a small family nothing crazy happened but

the mom annoyed the crap out of me my bedroom was right above theirs and she was constantly calling my parents to complain about noise oh and when I say noise I mean the faint sounds of someone walking down a hallway or some other BS my parents decided to accommodate them by purchasing a rug to line our hallway And making it a rule for me to not be on the phone or up and about after 10: p.m. but even after all that she still found something to call about like how the hell are you going to

complain about someone walking normally down a carpeted hallway keep in mind we've had several tenants in that unit before they moved in none complained once about the noise once I was up late in my room watching TV and the remote rolled off my bed hitting our hardwood floor I immediately Grabbed it to mute my TV but moments later what do you know our home phone starts ringing at 1 in the freaking morning the mother called about the loud noise she just heard and felt compelled to complain about it even though it lasted less than a

second this type of scenario happened all the time and at the end of their lease they moved out we then rented the unit to another family and never heard any more noise complaints good freaking riddance story 14 I was a landlord when my girlfriend moved in with me and she had an empty condo first two renters were fine but then there was Kevin Kevin was a single male good income seemed like the perfect tenant we get into month three and the rent checks stop coming in so we go to the condo to find out what

the big deal is first off there's a nice new flat screen TV but no furniture and a giant bean ball chair we ask where the hell's the money Kevin looks frantically Through his Bible and is all like ah I lost the money order sorry upset we do a little more looking and it turns out he has a roommate a silent muscular black man okay whatever but if you have a roommate you got to tell us Kevin so we can put him on the lease long story short Kevin stays silent and a few days later we

come by to serve him papers and to begin the eviction process Kevin 's a no-named roommate turns out to be a convicted assaulter who is out on parole That's great and all but uh we're right across from a school Kevin was violating offender legislation thank God he left without much of a fight and we were able to dump the condo at a modest profit okay so first of all op kick him out being upset by all this uh yeah super fair dude should not have been that close to a school or I don't know anyone

in my opinion but yeah that is a wild wild situation um as aside from that just a note though there was no need to Mention that he was black like that didn't come up once in the story you just said it for no real reason anyway just want to point out that was weird Man story 15 was renting a house and sublating a room to an 18-year-old couple real nice considerate devout Christians had to leave for 2 weeks and asked them to clean the house spotless so we could get the security deposit back and in

turn pay them for the trouble came back a couple days early to Find they had completely trashed the entire house like crack Den status moved the mattress down into the living room including our TV went through all of our stuff and Incorporated it into their stuff adopted two cats 2 days after we left no pets by the way kitty litter in every square inch of carpet used rubbers everywhere the whole house smelled like cigarettes no smoking pawned off our $800 drum set and $200 bong and stole most of my sentimental keepsakes I had In a

small box since I was a child cops were called and they were in the green legally proceeded to pack up whatever they wanted including our stuff and left with their parents who didn't care what their kids had done screw Reno Nevada story 16 not a real landlord but I was SL am renting a room to my girlfriend's friend since she got kicked out of her old place she lost her first job within a week of moving in got a new job and used a guy a sugar daddy buying her Smokes weed booze clothes and he

apparently wanted more so she quit that job got another job as a custodian got fired within a month for refusing to work her schedule old shifts then went on to welfare this whole time she hasn't bought anything for the apartment that means toilet paper soap Etc she is also lazy as all hell leaves all the lights on when she leaves never cleans anything but her room throws full bags of garbage onto the not full garbage in the kitchen Saw her put three bags on top of each other once and I confronted her about leaving everything

on all the time a few months ago today I come home to a passive aggressive note about leaving our fan on in our room she proceeded to scream at me try her hardest to make me mad at my girlfriend telling me she wanted to leave me blah blah every time I proved her wrong she changed the subject to continue yelling ended up throwing my Xbox onto the floor and Threatening me with violence if I moved her stuff out of her room when she left I now have my second in door lock in place waiting for

her to come home and start crap to call the cops or tomorrow I'm getting my landlord to change the locks and then I'm going to move all her stuff by the dumpster in the back edit in my Province I'm 100% within my rights to remove her belongings and kick her out thank you for the concern though I'm so glad a lot of people are attempting To stop me from screwing myself over update got the locks changed no problem phoned the local police inquiry line to make sure we know our rights and the police lady told

us we're good completely covered if any further problems come up and we can also request an officer to keep the peace when she comes to get her stuff so far she's refusing to cooperate and pick a date in time to get her stuff we can give her a few days to pick a date in time and if She refuses or doesn't show up her property is considered abandoned story 17 we had one tenant who wouldn't pay rent we followed the protocols to evict him but he kept getting the judge to agree to an extension he

ended up staying rentree for 7 months he also complained about anything and everything the neighbors are too loud someone's car alarm went off across the street one of the neighbors has a cat and I'm allergic literally nothing I can do in any of Those situations when he finally got evicted he left the apartment in shambles holes in the walls curtain stained with what I can only assume was crap and the rug was littered with cigarette Burns I wouldn't wish someone like that on my worst enemy story 18 not a landlord but used to work for

my stepfather when he had a business cleaning out and renovating apartments and houses where particularly bad attendants had been evicted SL their Lease ran out and on moving out left most of their garbage behind here are some of the worst things I saw when doing that big old Victorian style house in a nice neighborhood on moving out they left literally a foot thick pile of clothing covering the entire basement floor which would have been fine if the pipes weren't also leaking so most of the clothes were sing wet and molding another large house though in

a less nice neighborhood dirty diapers left Everywhere some wrapped up in Old shopping bags but a giant pile of them left sitting in the closet of what was obviously the child's bedroom townhouse style apartment one of the rooms had several fist-sized holes in the wall and other rooms had obviously bad patch-up jobs done and whomever had been making the holes decided it would be a great idea to use the holes as garbage receptacles had to tear out all of the walls just to make sure we got all of The trash middle-sized house house tenants had

left lots of food in the house and power had been cut more than 2 months before they were actually evicted the place smelled worse than the diaper Place once the fridge was opened as it revealed 5 gallons of spoiled and rotting milk as well as several large packages of meat and other rotting foods and this last one made me sad small but nice house in a very well-off Suburban neighborhood was being rented by guys Who actually lived out of state but would use it as a party house and drugged in when they wanted to party

or fell off the wagon trash broken Furniture clothing and drug paraphernalia everywhere lots of tiny bags of various drugs unmarked medication bottles half full of pills needles hidden all over the place walls with holes or completely caved in mold and mildew everywhere while cleaning out a room went to empty out a desk to make It a little easier to get out to the dumpster and found tons of handwritten letters to one of the guys they were from his wife and children all begging for him to get sober and be in their lives again including pictures

drawn by what I assume was a small child with crayon and markers while I have no doubt that business probably does pretty well I do not envy whatsoever working it having to clean up the trash that people have purposefully left behind and may Have been neglected for months is not my idea of fun I'm sure it's someone's though and to those people godp speed story 19 I was a maintenance guy for a Beyond screwed up apartment building I lived there with a girlfriend and served as the maintenance guy in exchange for a big rent decrease

there is way more as to how we remained in this this building but it's worth mentioning that after a while we were the only tenants who were not living off of government assistance SL SSI SL other disability I'm just going to go down the list crusty a Vietnam vet I never knew his real name but his girlfriend always referred to him as K crusty because he bore an uncanny resemblance to crusty the clown he got in trouble multiple times for climbing out his window trying to install surveillance cameras on The Ledges of the building he

was insanely paranoid and police were once called because he was crawling around the front Lawn of the building with a loaded shotgun Randy another Vietnam vet and perhaps the saddest case of severe PTSD I've ever witnessed firsthand he was seemingly a normal guy though really tall he was lanky and easily 7 foot or more he'd walk all around the block smoking those cheap King Edward mini cigars and was generally really friendly but something about certain types of vehicles triggered him he'd go into an animalistic fit running around on the Busy four-lane Avenue we lived on

barking and screaming nonsense at cars and waving his arms amazingly enough we figured out that all it took to SN mvit was walking up to him and happily saying hi Randy if he approached him and said that with a smile he was instantly back to normal completely unaware that he nearly avoided being hit by a city bus seconds earlier he seemed to be in his mid-50s or so and had a brother who was there frequently looking after him he Eventually was put into a home due to his mental issues and we were tasked with cleaning

his place out we walked in and found knee high garbage covering the floor of every room of his two-bedroom apartment it Remains the only time that the real estate company who owned numerous buildings in the city paid for outside cleaners to handle an apartment it was basically a biohazard at that point Mr R for a few months he served as a sort of interim landlord when things With the owners were in a shakeup he was Romanian with not a good grasp of English and he generally had his son with him to translate he was eventually

arrested for going into people's Apartments without the required notice and several tenants reported things including money and jewelry stolen James the guy who screwed up so many times the judge ordered him to leave the city he was a notorious drunk on a first to name basis with police in a good-sized city That's really bad he once got busted trying to break into the change boxes on the building's laundry machines because of that jerk the landlords instituted a 10: a.m. to 10: p.m. restriction on the laundry room which upset everyone his real quote unquote achievement was

somehow amassing over 30 drunken disorderly SLU intoxication charges over a year he'd somehow get off with maybe a few days in jail and then get busted again the second he was out in a Coincidence that recurred several times me and my girl girlfri were responsible for him eventually getting his du we' gone to a movie and decided we wanted some Burger King which was only a few minutes walking distance from our building we walked into Burger King and I swear this is true found James drunk and climbing onto a table while making really nasty remarks

to two teenage girls who were just speechless my girlfriend went over to the table and Said James you don't look so good I'm going to call someone to make sure you get home safe this dude goes Ah that's nice you're real sweetheart you know that girl girlfriend calls the cops who show up and say oh great James again and initially arrest him for another public intoxication as they're cuffing him one of the Burger King employees walks over and says to one of the teenage girls are you going to tell them what happened the girl starts

crying eventually security Footage showed that James had grabbed her breast shortly before we' walked in this girl also happened to be 16 on the advice of my girlfriend the Burger King worker and her parents she pressed charges for harassment SL this also happened to be the first time James met our new judge judge Carol a tough bitter old guy who loved nothing more than giving harsh sentences he probably ordered champagne and cigars to his Chambers when he read james' docket Not only did he sentence James to 3 years in jail but ordered that once he

was released he was no longer permitted to maintain a permanent address or dwelling in this city Leonard oh this dude right here first off he talked like a cross between Lil Wayne and the Cajun guy from Joe Dirt you could barely understand his brutal Wrath it was like trying to have a casual conversation with the singer from Cannibal Corpse at first he seemed like a minor Inconvenience he just liked playing his music loud at night other residents complained so he was warned hey no big deal right except his response it was to go and buy

a bigger sound system and play it louder every night to the point where all of our appliances were shaking and rattling me and my girlfriend both worked early and it became a real issue my girlfriend started going to bang on his door and warn him personally he was a tiny guy she could have really beat His butt if she wanted to the routine became that she'd warn him he'd keep doing it and the police would be called for noise disturbance it got so bad that our building was labeled a public nuisance by the police and

the owners were fined in addition to Leonard when police needed to be called naturally the owners forwarded their fine onto Leonard's rent which he barely paid anyway the Clincher came when we decided not to warn him after several months of This crap this time the police showed up knocked on his door and he yelled I'm going shoot your butt if you come in here I guess this was probable cause for them to kick his door down and they caught him in the middle of smoking some hard drugs even better he rushed the cops and tried

to fight them yeah no he was carried out in handcuffs shouting nonsense and struggling all the way according to the public records he was charged with several counts of drug Possession one drug trafficking charge assault on an officer and an illegal animal he had a pitbull which was illegal in our city and attacked an officer fortunately one of the responding officers was a k9 Pro and restrained the dog without injury the dog was rehomed into a good family several months later please for the love of God don't try to raise your pets to be weapons

people and finally Johnny the reason we had to leave this building Johnny was a gay xmarine who ran a phone advice hotline for troubled gay teenagers early 30s Hispanic always seemed like a super nice guy though a little eccentric I remember the day like it was yesterday me and the girlfriend were planning a nice night at home she got the food and picked out a couple of horror movies for us to watch I was at the store getting some booze and I get a hysterical call from her that opened with our building's on fire I

rush home And yep the freaking building was on fire Johnny mad about a rent increase had lit a trash can full of paper towels on fire and now half the building was engulfed in flames they rescued all of the pets from the building and did what they could to contain the fire but in the end the majority of the apartments were destroyed and the building was condemned until further notice the Red Cross paid for our hotels until we could figure crap out and they were amazing as Far as the immediate response went I can't ever

thank them enough for the little stability they gave us during that time as for Johnny he was arrested and thrown into a psych ward he went to the state supreme court for trial found guilty due to mental defect and will probably spend the rest of his life in a mental ward so yeah our building was screwed up narrator's commentary another absolute monster of a post and op is not even a landlord just had some absolutely Insane neighbors I was really kind of rooting for James until they got to the end and they're like yeah he

groped this underage girl and I'm like well not much we can do about that one huh at the very least I hope he's gotten sober now like even when drunk you can't be going around doing that that's just come on man story 20 she brought three cats and drama it was my fault for accepting someone who wanted to keep three cats surprisingly none of the trouble stemmed From her pets which she kept immaculately clean in fact it was the cleaning itself that grew out of control the first few months passed peacefully no problems then she

started lagging with her rent this wouldn't have been a terrible issue since I'm tolerant of a a few days late and to maintain a healthy savings buffer for unexpected expenses vacancies and late rent checks it was when I surprised her in the middle of one of her cleaning binges that things Began to disintegrate I had stopped by to grabb some supplies in the house for a minor repair or for a monthly inspection she didn't expect me to appear in the building and was carrying a spray bottle and rag in her hands apparently this had been

going on for some time another tenant warned me of some eccentric Behavior she had noticed in her housemate but didn't go into details I should have seen the warning signs but brushed it off at that moment Her cleaning and reorganizing grew more intense until it transformed into hostility towards the other tenant who didn't share her intense Focus she insisted that the three of us meet to compile a schedule of how and when the other tenant would participate in cleaning of the house the quote unquote cleaner rejected any proposals that did not explicitly set an hour

and minute along with the specific cleaning tasks for her housemate the other housemate Found this absurd and would only agree to a general description of the cleaning tasks our negotiations failed to converge on an acceptable schedule and I had to excuse myself at the cleaner Shout at me to not leave after that she bullied the other tenant and patrolled the kitchen anytime her housemate walked through or prepared coffee was it an obsession or just a front she stopped paying rent and this drama might have just been a distraction to earn extra Time out of sympathy

in the end I had to evict her strangely enough both of them left at the same time and I think she might have shamed her housemate into footing the bill for her next apartment looking back on the whole thing I'm surprised she didn't find more success in a job where she cleaned houses it won't make you a billionaire but it will pay the bills and can always be found a especially in my city story 21 tenant calls for toilet fixing got a sword Wielding schizophrenic neighbor tacked onto my list for problems to deal with had

a tenant call me cuz the toilet needed a fixing I came over to check it out oh simple fix just needed to run a Home Depot then she says there was something else it was the cross the street neighbor about a 20-year-old male he apparently had been off his meds and was performing theatrics a bonafied drama King throughout the night yelling screaming pacing in and out slamming the Front door a great a schizophrenic to my untrained Diagnostics all hours for three nights SL days ranting she felt very concerned and nervous I suggested calling the cops

for noise complaints I took off to Home Depot and got what I needed I returned to find the guy outside citing aliens and Queen Elizabeth invading no biggie I go inside fix the toilet all done I reassured he seemed harmless they elevated their concern to feeling threatened I asked Has he made any threats they say no I decide to scope out the fellow I go outside made friendly eye contact a smile a wave and a high he proceeded to rant directed at me some absurdities barely acknowledging me but he did say Hey you as I

was walking back into the house I reassured them of his concerning mental condition a promised to figure a way to contact his landlord and advised calling the cops if it went past midnight I leaved and there he was on my Property ranting like he was in a play this frightened the girls so having enough and being Texan I kindly requested then kindly advised him to return to his property he wouldn't acknowledge so I called the cops for trespass Cops show up and he runs inside he didn't make any direct threats and the cops had said

well it's not illegal to be crazy inside your own house nothing can be done now the other neighbors are scoping out what's going On with the cops called I speak with them about the current situation and calm them down one lady was going to look into mental health hot lines I pack up cuz I had a full day's work as well as after hours toilet fixing and crazy drama things calm down for a few days I've never met his landlord had no contact wasn't sure how to reach out as all I knew the landlord lived

in California I poke around on and public records glad things were calm and quiet No real results Friday approaches and its sxsw interactive festival and I'm CTO of a VR startup our investors are hosting a rooftop event we have some B celeb musicians with record label reps guests our company and of course our big donor investors I'm key Central to the tech operation of the event a bit stressed to demoing some hot new finicky Tech I got a call from another neighbor saying that the crazy guy was out ranting and a jogger passed by and

Overheard the crazy cry out that he was going to raise the greenhouse s down jogger stops and says uh excuse me crazy has gone aggravated and repeats that they're going to raise the greenhouse s down that was my house and so the jogger informs the neighbor who called to inform me not the best timing dude this was one of my major events of the week I duck out to the bathroom to call the cops again fortunately it was nearing the end of the event so pack up the tech To the extent that required my attention

informed the party VIPs of my exit and booked it to my property three cop cars are there and basically he had ran back inside again and not enough to bust in I speak with everyone give them the news my plans for my next steps and calm them down lady looking in a mental health got a number but didn't have it on her said I'll come back tomorrow again exhausted from work and hosting a tech event she also gave the news that the guy was Living alone he was basically dumped by his mother at that house

cuz she was also not mentally fit to care for herself let alone him crazy running in the family I guess the father was a wealthy contractor working in the Middle East basically disowned him but had the obligations to pay his rent and bills there was a guy that came by periodically to provide food and make sure he was okay great so the crazy dude had no responsibilities and only had one Visitor per week next day I drive by and see the visitor I stopped to speak to him informing him of the Ruckus crazy he was

causing visitor said he's got meds but was beyond his duties to ensure he takes them daily he shared with me his business card and left swiftly I go over to the neighbor with the mental health hotline number and said enough is enough one more outbreak and we'll call them after chatting I'm walking back to my truck crazy dude has a 100% legit Samurai sword and is swinging it while reciting his theatrics he stood in the way of my truck 911 that quick while on the phone dude says to end him over and over again and

runs into the house with his sword explained the history to the 911 operator and the sword 5 to 10 cop cars show up in a standoff I walk to one and he busts out of a trunk what appears to be a shotgun thinking great we're in Texas and they won't tolerate crap it's about to go down dude eventually comes Out of the house and his Mad Hat ways and gets tackled thank God no weapons involved olved cops see the sword on his couch and Enter he gets arrested and I will say they must have had

some Mental Health Training cuz they handled him with the utmost professional kindness and caring much respect to the cops things calm down I calm down the neighbors and tenants days go by D turns up again but more sayane at this point the girls are seeking to break contract To move away from him thanks buddy a week goes by and he's starting up again but soon after the kid disappears The Last anyone has seen of him was with a ruck sack packed up and he was planning on walking into a festival no festivals I know of

going on in the state he left all of his belongings his father had autopay going for many many months not my problem eventually new neighbors moved in Somewhere Out There is a schizophrenic kid I don't think he's of A danger to anyone I think his banter sword swinging and exclamations of ending him was a cry for help he never threatened anyone the raise my house down was more likely his Shakespearean theatrics poor dude doesn't really have any family and he's no longer a child under someone else's responsibility we need better social mental Healthcare in Texas

hey I got to admit with OP calling him crazy for the entire story did not expect that last line respect you Opie Being able to separate his actions from the dude is incredibly impressive especially when he was actively raising hell for you specifically story 22 my extended family are or were landlords not sure if they got out of that with the kind of crap you have to deal with sometimes one story I heard was my uncle was having a conversation with someone outside a flat he was letting to some students as the two were talking

a couch came crashing out through the front Window I don't know how long that lot stayed after that the better story is another uncle had a nightmare family staying in a flatty owned he had to kick them out because they caused nothing but trouble their son was sitting exams so they asked if he could stay until they were finished and my uncle said sure eventually he left and my uncle went to see what damage was done to the flat he found it Immaculate everything was clean and tidy yet something seemed off he Went from room

to room but couldn't find so much as a stain s Saied with the condition the flat had been left in he exited a room and went to close the door and that's when he realized what was wrong there were no doors anywhere they had stolen every single interior door story 23 I work in Property Management I used to work at a high-rise in downtown San Diego I had a resident who would constantly complain about things that were out of our control and then ask for A rent credit for his inconvenience these complaints included too many

homeless in the area the restaurant across the street smells tired of the dog next door barking when the owners come home only for a couple of minutes Etc my personal favorite where I just went off on him was when he was parked in front of our building a designated loading zone and he received a ticket this is a public Street mind you so the only Personnel that can give out tickets In the area are the meter maids with the city he comes in barking at me about this ticket and asks for reimbursement and an additional

credit added to his account due to the emotional stress I explained to him it was the city we have nothing to to do with it and your request is absurd people will ask for any sort of reimbursement for the stupidest things story 24 I rented one of my houses to a gal I worked with mother of two married did okay at work Didn't think much of it it was my first and last time renting out I didn't know the laws well for my state I was very nice and that I was forgiving if rent was

a few days late but she never paid for the deposit as I was also a student and was busy with school and needed someone in that second home so I didn't have to pay she took me for a ride knew all the laws and had to go to court twice I was lucky in that a we communicated via text and I saved every Message giving a copy to the judge and B her boss wouldn't give her the day off to go to court so her husband of whom seemed to also be along for the ride

was stuck trying to defend them not paying she tried to say I said crap when I didn't but those messages saved my butt and luckily they got kicked out with very little damage to the house Story 25 my family had rentals all throughout my life by far the worst renters have been my family and friends my mom's worst was Her long-term boyfriend's daughter her apartment caught fire and my mom let her rent an old mobile home not long after moving in she almost burned that house down too she ended up evicting her for non-payment that

same house was rented afterwards by my older sister and she neglected to notify us of any needed repairs had to replac the carpet subfloor in the whole place the last renters in my mom's nicest unit ruined brand new laminate with spills broke a Pedestal sink in half and left pretty much every Appliance in non-working order they even changed the locks without telling us I vacuumed three rooms for for 10 hours and the dirt was still coming up I don't think they ever vacuumed story 26 I have an eviction story I found another veteran Marine on

Craigslist that was looking to rent a room in my house when dealing with Craigslist I always meet the person several times before they move in so I Can get a feel for them he was very chill and his dog was calm I gave him the green light well it turned out his dog had severe separation anxiety and barked and scratched constantly until Braden came back except bradden is a bartender and would be out of of the house for upwards of 12 hours one time was two full days and he would leave the dog in the

house crapping and peeing everywhere I got fed up and moved the dog to the garage so I could sleep now I Have a big boy job I wake up at 4:45 in the morning to go to work meaning I expect quiet hours to start at 10: p.m. while Braden would come home from bartending at 2: a.m. Hammer drunk with several friends in blast music and argue Politics on more than one occasion I had to pick up broken glass bottles out of my grassp from when his girlfriend got mad the last event was when he threw

a party on Monday night where he left the door open to my house where both my cats Escaped in addition my wallet was rifled through and he nutted on my ottoman I broke up the party with an unloaded shotgun I comped him his rent if he just moved out and didn't make me go to court to get eviction papers drafted nut by the way never really comes out op I have to disagree with you on that last statement it clearly had to come out at some point story 27 this is a roommate story but I

had a Bic roommate my other roomy and I confronted her because she Was vomiting in in the share toilet and leaving floating stuff she told us it's none of our business but that she would make sure the toilet isn't gross fast forward a few weeks later and something stinky was coming from her room when she was out of town we went in and found two yes two totes you know those big containers you store your winter clothes or Christmas ornaments in and put in the Attic full of vomit one of them was duct taped shut

our landlord had to come Remove them I remember it was on Halloween because he kept saying it's Halloween and I'm going to be digging a hole somewhere to bury this that has to be some landlord's worst story story 28 my dad rents commercial property in our hometown a third world country in the early 2000s a Chinese man rented a supermarket style property from him my dad went to collect rent every now and then and didn't notice anything too strange at first except a lot of Customers from his perspective great but then he noticed some structures

at the back of the building and these structures start to move to the front upon inspection he realizes the tenant had vertically divided the supermarket into two floors using zinc panels something dodgy was clearly going on he asked him to leave and when he wouldn't he threatened to call the police by the time he came back with the police they had left he climbed to the makeshift Second floor to find dozens of towel beds clothes including children's Etc the police presumed the landlord was trafficking Chinese people and this is where they were living there were

also two big pots with broth which when emptied revealed two dog corpses story 29 I began my landlording career pretty young I took out a Master Lease on a house and rented out the rooms individually over time I developed a process and way of handling people that Severely limited bad tenants but in the beginning my first tenant in one of the rooms was apparently in town for a construction project he said he just needed me to fill out a form and his company would send the rent checks I had vacancy already so I had to

move in right away without paying a deposit first just trusting what you said the first day I'm cleaning a shelf in the kitchen and it shatters when I drop it he's in the middle of moving his stuff In and says hey my company is a glass cutting company let me get the measurements and I'll have them cut it I'm all sure how much does it cost so now I have someone in my house who hasn't given me any money yet and I'm giving him $40 a month goes by and I haven't gotten any rent yet

and this glass shelf thing is never happening spoiler never got any money so that's not so bad crap happens and I goofed clearly but then my other tenants things Begin to go missing they're eventually coming to me asking what the hell is up I'm thinking they probably just misplaced it and I put it off eventually I talk to the guy and he's not coming clean Etc I really don't know what to do at this point so I just do nothing and hope the problem goes away thankfully one of the tenants just took the initiative and

called the police the guy had a warrant out for his arrest or something or other so they had no Problem coming and evicting him without standard landlord tenant board stuff after he was gone the three of us went into his room while his stuff was still there to see if we could recover any stolen goods in it we found a crapload of drugs including prescription drugs obtained with all the stolen IDs he had hidden in a box including my other tenants a bunch of Door and Window Hardware pieces and tools clearly used for breaking enters

SL theft keys to my Tants Lexus he had basically demoed the walls of his room and installed all kinds of crappy wire shelving everywhere to store all his junk he had those super pain in the butt stickers Etc everywhere he also knew what the score was for sure his laptop was on when we came in and it was listening into the police scanner stuff to pick up calls so overall a pathological liar who stole a bunch of crap wrecked the place and never paid rent though really that's not even so Bad I lost out on

two months rent I mean I was an idiot obviously and I had to put putty up on the walls and paint the room I feel like it's not all that bad lessons I've learned from this and other experiences that keep things orderly now never assign a lease without deposit duh if someone has a lot of excuses Let It Go find a different person if someone starts overselling themselves it's almost always a bad thing those are the people that never do any of what they Say they will kind of like that friend or family member who

always talks about starting a business or whatever but just sits around playing wow it's better to have your unit vacant for a month than to rent to someone you're not super confident in and advertise the unit for above Market rates and just do more showings you'll get the people who have enough money to buy luxury things people with money are almost always better tenants for a variety of reasons story 30 my wife and I help manage my father-in-law's rental properties once I had a tenant let her sister move into her house for a weekend visit

that Monday the tenant moved back in with her estranged husband and the sister stayed after a month of normal payments the tenant missed a payment so I messaged the tenant and was told I don't live here anymore my sister has a key and won't leave sorry where I live squatters cannot be kicked out of a house it must Go through a judge after three billing periods of non-payment the landlord must pay the court costs and the squatters still have a minimum of One Billing period to get their items out of the house luckily we have

a billing cycle of one week so we were able to get them out rather quickly story 31 first day I moved into my apartment last year my landlord told me about the worst kid to ever live there he told us there was this kid subletting an apartment over The summer for his rather shy sister no problems the sister was normal and he came with good recommendations however on the first night there he threw a rager of a party loud music too many people didn't end until the police needed to be called for noise violations the

next morning my landlord comes up and tells him that get togethers are fine but parties of that scale not allowed it was in the lease he signed but he was willing to give the kid Another chance bad decision more violent party this time with property damage to boot landlord stormed up there and told him to have his crap out of the apartment by tomorrow at noon kid was mad and decided to throw a getting evicted party got about five of his friends in there to trash the place and break everything they could find they punched

holes in the walls broke lights and smashed the windows it all came to a grinding halt when the kid decides to Headbutt a hole in the wall and hit a supporting metal beam breaking his neck the kid got charged with absolutely everything the girls who lived there previously were politely told not to return the next year and the kid missed his freshman year of University and $10,000 worth of scholarships because he couldn't leave the hospital or move independently my landlord pretty well told me as long as I don't do anything that that stupid we'll probably

get Along commentary look man you play stupid games you win stupid prizes why would you headbutt a wall ever I just come on I don't know even what to say also throwing a party specifically to destroy everything because you're getting kicked out cuz you're a garbage tenant it just sounds like the most entitled Behavior I've ever heard story 32 we had a tenant who lived in a shared apartment room for a few months his flatmate was complaining about smells And cleanliness issues when we checked everything seemed sort of normal very mess but nothing extraordinary after

the guy failed to pay his rent again we evicted him one day before the eviction date I sat with him and we agreed that he could leave some heavy Furniture in the room to be picked up a few weeks later but the room needs to be otherwise cleaned out and he has to hand over the keys he agreed that he would be able in the following morning well the next day He did not give the keys back in the morning and his room door was locked I texted him and he claimed he had forgotten to

return the keys and took them with him I explicitly asked if the room was cleared out except for the furniture and he wrote yes I fetched the the spare key and open the door and to my disbelief the room was not cleared out at first I only noticed about eight plastic shopping bags on the ground a lot of rubbish including rubbish bags Lying around openly with actual trash in them dirty dishes all over the place especially on the table a lot of personal items still flying around at first it seemed his room was so messy

that he simply couldn't finish cleaning it up and had to leave after starting since the room was supposed to be rented to another person a few weeks later luckily I already expected some troubles and postponed this I had to start cleaning it up up then the Real Horror Came to light the plastic bags were filled with plastic bottles and in those you guessed it was urine there were about 30 or 40 of them each containing about 1 or 1 and 1/2 lers of urine the dishes were also awful they had been standing around for several

weeks at least as far as I could tell by the smell and larvae in them the least problematic dishes quote unquote only had mold or fungi on them opening the Wardrobe it was clear that he had stored Wet clothes in it the whole thing was already falling apart and solid wooden boards were just bending from their own weight the wall behind the Wardrobe was full of mold luckily only on the wallpaper surface otherwise this could have been really expensive under the table was some spilled food on the carpet which was moldy as well the same

for under the bed which apparently he had two king-sized mattresses on the stench was really strange a mix of all The dirtiness in the room and some scented candles or room spray or something it took me and two other people about 3 to 4 hours to superficially clean the room out it took another few days of a few hours work each to renew and clean up the whole room mold removal wallpapers carpet cleaning doors and windows we never saw anything of the rent that was still due and the guy even had the audacity to threaten

to sue us also found out that He apparently had very high debt everywhere so suing ourselves would not bring money back we got really careful after this with our tenants story 33 my parents first off we were evicted from every house we lived in as a kid I didn't understand this it was likely a combination of missing rent garbage piling up Neighbors complaining about no one ever cleaning up dog crap noise complaints drugs Etc when I was 12 my grandparents let us move into their Rental when I was 21 we were evicted don't get me

wrong it was the best thing to ever happen to me I grew up immediately and never looked back my parents stopped paying rent shortly after we moved in my grandmother let it slide because she was looking out for me I had no idea about this until I was much older when I turned 18 my mom said I had to start paying my quote unquote share of the rent $200 I didn't know she was pocketing it until I started paying My grandmother directly when we finally moved out I packed all of my crap in a moving

van and went to an apartment my parents did not they left 90% of everything they owned in the house but they didn't leave it neat it was like they threw a tantrum and spewed almost everything they owned around the house water damage wall damage garbage everywhere I told my grandparents I would help clean with a couple of friends that had stayed with me at that House for various lengths my grandparents rented a giant container SL a dumpster to put everything in not a regular dumpster but like a modified shipping container over the course of 3

days my friends and I filled it about 2/3 my parents are smokers when we started removing things from the walls we could see the ridiculous color change from smoke stained walls to the places pictures had been hung in my parents room there was a wooden heart my mom Used as a jewelry rack it had various Nails in it for pegs it was nailed to the wall with 207 Nails we counted it was maybe a foot in diameter most of the drywall was destroyed what wasn't had to be painted over my grandparents said they spent well

over $10,000 in 1999 for repairs for their own kid as of now they own nothing from their past they had a storage unit at one point that had the remainder of their Belongings they didn't make payments and everything is gone including pictures from my childhood and my ridiculous collection of Christmas ornaments for my grandmother I should add a demolition crew came in and filled the rest of the dumpster on days four and five op no offense but grown up with parents like that it is a wonder you turned out all right I can't imagine your

parents pocketing money that they claim is used for rent what weird gross Behavior I Hope you're doing well and have distanced yourself from them as much as humanly possible anyway that is the last story for today I would like to thank you all so much for watching and for now I hope you have a wonderful day or night wherever you are I will see you in the next one