Are Catholics right about PRAYING to Mary? | Sam Shamoun

praying to Mary or through Mary and the rosary okay now you said they what few who like few people I know they left uh Catholicism they left because they're ignorant they don't know their faith that's the sad thing you know most people that leave Orthodox or Catholic they do not know about the ancient church or no know the Bible the great depth this is a fact don't take my word for it guys test me on this people who leave the Orthodox Catholic are people who are poorly catechized and yet the people that convert back to

Orthodoxy or Catholic are people who are Highly Educated who after studying church history in the Bible after many years realize they were mistaken and either go back to the Catholic or Orthodox Church do you know that's a fact I didn't know that this is a fact I'm not lying guys I'm not lying it is a fact that those who leave the Catholic Church Orthodox Church like when I left thean church is because we knew nothing about the ancient Church the beliefs of the Christians for the first 300 years and didn't really know the Bible the

great depth so we just read the Bible surface level we left but then you hear about thousands in the west thousands going back to the Catholic church because the Catholic church is better known in the west than the Orthodox church and these are people who after studying the Bible and church history for years realize they made a mistake and they go back now to come back to the answering the question they're telling you they had a problem with praying to Mary why now why do they have a problem with praying to Mary um because they

found nothing no evidence in the Bible that said that um Mary listens to the Lord ignorant uninformed statement that's arguing from Silence that's a bad way of arguing for example if I follow that approach well there's nothing in the Bible well that's not the same thing as saying that the Bible condemns it just because the Bible doesn't mention something doesn't it condemns it this is a bad way of interpreting the Bible because a lot of people can use that to prove too much for example there's nowhere in the words of Jesus where he says I

am God or worship me and there's nowhere in the words of Jesus where he says that the one God is the fatherly Spirit or worship the father son holy spirit so if I use that argument that means the Trinity is not in the Bible which is how Muslims argue Jo's Witnesses argue and unitarians argue to say that something's not in the Bible is not the same thing as saying that it's condemned in the Bible to tell me it's condemned in the Bible is one thing to tell me it's not in the Bible is another because

not everything is in the Bible many things in the Bible have to be inferred for example if I had to ask you can you show me where the Bible says do not snort cocaine now why you laughing he's so reminded but it didn't tell you that but you extrapolated a principle so you just Prov my point what did you do there's nothing in the Bible that will condemn something specifically but there are principles in the Bible that you can apply to address situations not mentioned in the Bible you just did that right yes okay now

what's the basis for praying for Mary number one does the Bible say pray for one another yes it does Ephesians 6:1 19-20 let me walk you through this all right so let me now walk you into the way we come to and arrive at the correct conclusion that the Blessed Mother and the Saints can pray for us are you ready okay number one the Bible says pray for one another Ephesians 61 19- 20 here Paul is asking the Christians to do what for him Ephesians 6:1 19-2 are you want me to read it I mean

if you read in your heart I can't read your heart I'm not in heaven yet and for me that utterance may be given to me this is a new King James and by the way she's saying pray for me for what and for me that utterance may be given to me and that I may open my mouth boldly to make known The Mystery of the Gospel okay so he's asking you read Ephesians 619 and 20 right that was 19 I didn't read 208 then 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains that I may

speak boldly as I ought to speak so Paul is saying pray for me for boldness right he we can pray for one another Paul says pray for me right yes now go to James 5 13 and20 pay attention James 5 1320 but specifically James 5 13- 16 James 5 follow how it works take I'll start reading for you all right I'm GNA start reading okay go ahead go ahead okay hold on let me line it up for you so that you know okay so James 513- 20 and I got to line it up all right

well Les me over here okay is any among you Afflicted let him pray James 5:13 to20 I want to read Revis Standard Version Catholic that you one second is anyone among you suffering let him pray is any cheerful let him pray this is James 513- 20 specifically James 5 13- 16 but I'm going to read all let him sing praise is any among you sick let him call for the Elders of the church let them pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord and the prayer of faith will save the

sick man and the the Lord will raise him up and if he has committed sins he'll be forgiven therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another why that you may be healed the prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects okay did you catch it yes okay it says when you are righteous the more you submit to God the less you sin and the more you obey the Holy Spirit the more powerful your prayers that I I've experienced that personally yeah yes I agree with that in heaven those

who are alive in heaven are they perfect and sinless no more sin well yes because they're with the father are they completely righteous so that they don't have sin yes they are now if we assume they're praying would that make their PR prayers even more powerful than our than our prayers yes but they're not om omn omnicient omnipresent change the argument because Revelation 5:13 John sees every creature praising God so he om wait hold on re yes what I want to say yes but no you don't have to be omniscient all you need is an

omniscient God to make known to you that they're praying and what they're saying so this is a category error and it's a false dilemma oh okay see that re it down for me John says Revelation 5:13 and I heard every creature in heaven on Earth beneath the Earth right and all things in them I heard every creature in heaven on Earth and the Seas below and all things in them saying to the one who sits on the throne and to the lamb so he heard every creature in all of creation so if I follow your

logic that means John is now omnipotent omnicient but he was given this site you just buried yourself so that means God can give the Saints the knowledge that you're asking them to pray I'm I'm learning right now don't worry I'm just challenging right right right right makes sense makes sense so going back to the issue if they're alive and perfected in heaven and the prayer of righteous man will bring about great results so if they're perfect and sinless how much more powerful are their prayers a lot more than mine I tell you now let me

let me then read on the rest of James because he gives you an example of such a person verse 17 Elijah was a man of like nature he was a human like us right with ourselves and he prayed fervently that it might not rain and for three years and six months it did not rain on the earth then he prayed again and he and the heaven gave rain and the Earth brought forth its fruit so number one we are to pray to one another number two the more righteous you are the less you sin the

more powerful your prayers happen to be because in Deuteronomy 189 to14 it's talking about the Pagan practice of necromancy and contacting spirits to enter you your body and channel through you and speak through you as a medium as a witch as a spiritist no one is asking Mary to come and channel through them and possess them in order for Mary to speak through them it's talking about specific Paving practices where they would ask the spirits of the Dead to channel through them like a spiritist or a medium and manifest and people do this to this

day they're called channelers where supposedly the spirit comes over them and then speaks through them and it's not that person anymore that's not communion Saints no one is saying Mary come and channel through me enter me and speak through me and no one's going to a grave to conjure up the spirit of the Dead to then speak through them as a channel as a witch as a medium learn the context and the historical background now coming back to the issue all right number one we are to pray for another number two the more righteous you

are the more effective your prayer right oh thank you at least now you're saying okay now pray for ihart Yeshua to because this person's open to the truth may the Lord Jesus Keep softening you opening your heart destroy our pride bring you to the truth okay glory to God there open so miss quote 1 Timothy 25 I had high hopes for you that came to my mind earlier when uh before you brought up uh now I'm going to answer it because he had this in his mind now this is the one that says one meter

between God and man the man Christ Jesus right yes all right if this passage means that because Christ is the one mediator we cannot mediate and intercede you just destroyed the Trinity can you tell me why wait what you just destroyed the Trinity for there is one you just destroyed the Trinity oh oh okay I I see what you mean now I see what you mean went on yes because wait the one God is who in this verse God the Father say it again the father God the father because Jesus mediates between the one God

right yes yes so if Jesus being the one mediator means there are no other mediators then you just prove Jesus can't be God because the one God is the father I'm trying I'm trying to understand like my brain is not clicking it's not clicking because understand the argument because Jesus is the one mediator means there are no other mediators right right but then if you're gonna be consistent well if the one God is the father then Jesus can't be God either oh okay that see now that makes sense that makes sense now you understand that

can't possibly be true right yes but Jesus is his God thank you why because we look at what the Bible says as a whole MH and though here the one God is the father other places tell us that Jesus and are one with the father so God the father being the one God is not to the exclusion of the son it's in Union with him right yes likewise when it says one mediator the context is about Paul encouraging Christians to intercede for the Salvation of people why because you have one medium Ator who makes your

prayers effectual and acceptable to God so now pray for people's salvation that's the context let me show you okay okay okay okay that makes sense let me show you now but here let's see how it begins okay here's the context you ready 1 Timothy 21-5 watch this is the context 1 Timothy 21 1 and2 watch this is the context okay first of all then I urge that supplications prayers intercessions wait Paul is talking to Christian saying make intercession that's the context of 1 Timothy 2 yeah but wait isn't part of the role of a mediator

to intercede uhhuh so why is Paul starting the chapter saying you Christians intercede and pray for all men when he just will go on to say well you only have one mediator because that shows you don't know how to read context what Paul is saying is you need to intercede for all people for their salvation and pray for them to be saved because God wants them to be saved and because you have one mediator who makes your prayers acceptable know that when you pray God will hear if you pray in Jesus name well that that's

your mediator he's the only one who makes your prayers acceptable so him being the one mediator isn't discouraging you from interceding it's encouraging you intercede pray cry out for the Salvation of people because now you're one mediator unites you to God and makes your prayers intercession acceptable and God will answer that's the context okay that let read rest of it so you see I'm not making it up you're making you're making sense right now okay okay now let's continue reading first of all then I urge that supplications prayers intercessions thanksgivings be made for all men

for kings and all who are in high positions that we may lead a quiet and peaceful life Godly respectable in every way so now why does God want all believers to intercede here's your answer God why do you want me to intercede and pray here's the answer you ready 1 Timothy 21-5 this is good and is acceptable in the sight of God our savior who desires all men to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth for there is one God and there's one meter between God and man the man Christ Jesus that's

the context so what's the context telling you you cannot pray or intercede or mediate because you have one mediator or is the context the opposite the opposite pray intercede mediate for the Salvation of people knowing that God wants all people saved so when you pray intercede for their salvation that Delights God and because of Jesus your mediator he makes your prayers acceptable to God because the Bible I know it doesn't contradict itself it's always now did you understand brother yes I'm not gonna lie this uh open up like like zillion more questions but I ain't

gonna take up your time because you're well I can't open a zillion more questions if number one we are to pray for one another intercede for one another number two they are perfect in heaven and the more righteous you are the more powerful your prayers right see that part I understand um what I don't understand is the rosary and well do you have hymns and songs that you sing that are not in scripture oh of course that's no not of course wait wait wait why don't you understand about the rosary when it's based on scripture

if you're saying you want to find the exact form then you're being inconsistent on it's because you have a lot of songs and hymns that people came up with that are not in scripture see that's say I don't know I don't I look I got my information from Tik Tok which is why I'm here but that's what I'm trying to tell you uhuh the principle is not whether the exact prayer is found in scripture whether the prayer doesn't contradict scripture and it's faithful to the teaching of scripture and let me tell you the part of

the Rosary which is scripture Hail Mary full of grace that's Luke 1 128 in your translation you're going to read it's going to say hail Mary highly favored but let me show you other translations said Luke 128 L 128 here let me show it to you let's see okay let me show you here all right I'm ready go ahead go ahead Luke 128 and he came to her and said hail full of grace the Lord is with you that's Hail Mary full of grace hail full of grace the Lord is with you that's one right

yeah mine says and having come in the angel said to her Rejoice highly favored one the Lord is so many I know because your Protestant Bibles uhuh being reactionary to the Catholic Church will translate many as highly favored as opposed to filled with grace that's irrelevant to the fact that this is based on scripture in other words the terms full of grace is a translation of Luke 128 that's why I just showed you R Standard Version Catholic edition notice that Greek word they render full of grace because they are not reacting against the Catholic church

so they're rendering it as it can be rendered filled with grace so that's one it comes from Luke 1 128 Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee now where do we get the Lord is with thee okay are you ready you ready uhhuh all right Luke 1 28 to 30 1 second and 40 to 1 second the cat needs attention all right read with me okay right there in 28 what does it say does it say Lord is with thee with you yes it does okay whether your translation says highly favored or

full of grace the word many can be rendered Full of Grace So when you say Hail Mary full of grace they're citing Luke 1 128 okay now when it says blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus all right now here Luke 1 142 okay all right it's on the screen again and she exclaimed with a loud cry blessed are you among woman and blessed is the fruit of your womb so the first part of the Rosary is in the New Testament now the second part holy Mary Mother of

God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death okay is Mary holy oh now she is I mean Oh you mean on Earth she was sinful and wicked and immoral no I didn't say that don't is Mary holy yes I'll say yes so Holy Mary do you object no mother of God is she not the mother of God yeah yes so what parts of those prayer do you have a problem with the only problem you're going to have is pray for a sinners now at the hour of death but that's the

debate isn't it can she pray for us or not well that's something that I have to do more research in yes and that's what I'm trying to show you those in heaven are aware of what's taking place on Earth and they pray did you know they're having Church in heaven I forgot where I read I know that's somewhere in the Bible Hebrews 12 22 to 24 now you want to open up your Bible too no no no go go ahead Hebrews 1222 to 24 uhuh now let me ask you something what do people do in

the church um do they pray for people oh yes I thought you talk they worship God they sing but do they pray for people yes okay here you go Hebrews 12:22 to 24 but you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the Living God the heavenly Jerusalem this is heaven right yes and to innumerable angels and fesal Gathering and to the Church of the firstborn meaning the Church of those who first believe because it's plural who are who are enrolled in heaven and to a judge who is God of all and the

spirits of just men made perfect and to Jesus the medeor of a New Covenant and to the sprinkled blood that speaks more graciously than the blood of Abel so they're having Church in heaven yes and those spirits who died they're in heaven yes are they perfect yes made perfect how powerful are your prayers powerful like it says in in church they pray and they're having Church in heaven they're not praying they are because at church you pray but in church you pray for the Lost Sinners right yes and you pray for your brothers sisters in

Christ right yes okay so what are they doing in heaven cap dancing they're praying I mean I I would have thought I would have thought you know since they're in heaven they're in God's presence they just gonna be glorifying him all day so you mean that if they're the church and they know they're one body with us on Earth and they know the plight of Believers on Earth and Jesus tells us to love one another as he's loved us and love your neighbor as yourself and one of the ways we we love them is to

pray for them so they're so busy glor find God that they forget their brothers on Earth okay that makes sense okay and if they're perfect are their prayers perfect yes and are their prayers more powerful yes and then on top of that Revelations 6:9-11 that the people are aware of what will take place on Earth and would be concerned here you go I'm G to give you a few more here you go Revelation 6:9-11 when he opened the fifth seal I saw under the altar The Souls of those who had been slain for the word

of God their souls are there in the altar in heaven the bodies are not and for the witness they had borne they cried out with a loud voice oh Sovereign Lord holy and true how long before thou will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the Earth so they're concerned about the people that killed them when are you going to punish them then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer until the number of their fellow servants and their Brethren should be complete or to be killed

as they themselves had been Jesus has told them the future so if let me see if I understand that did you see that Jesus just told them the future that they have to rest until the last believer comes to us no the last person who's murdered then God will avenge them you're misreading it okay but did Jesus just tell them what's going to happen on Earth yes and in the future so you're just telling me Jesus made them known what's going to take place to their brothers on Earth yes and you're telling me they don't

love them enough to pray for them no they do well they should he just answered the question they're praying for us that makes sense now let me give you the final one for the sake of time I did a whole series on communion Saints it's on my playlist all right I'm gonna You Know Rich Man Lazarus die yes okay watch well hold on let's see it's okay Abraham died before Moses and the prophets and their scriptures right yes okay explain this to me when the rich man looked at Abraham Lazarus and he told Abraham tell

Lazarus to dip this finger in this water and cool my tongue because I'm in torment I'm almost done crystals anyway but Abraham said Son remember that you in your lifetime received your good things and L in like manner evil things how did he know how they lived on Earth how did Abraham know because he just said you in your lifetime received good things Lazarus evil things how did he know how they lived on earth God had to tell them because so you just answered your question again God makes known to them what takes place on

Earth okay but wait let's go on but now he has comforted here and you are an anguish and besides between us and you a great Chasm Chasm has been fixed in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able and none may cross from there to us watch here the rest of it Luke 16 27-31 okay and he said then I beg you father to send him to my father's house for I have five brothers so that he may warn them lest they also come into this place of dor so

a wicked man is concerned about his family members on Earth yes he is but believers who are perfect in love are not concerned about their brothers on Earth well they should be as well thank you but now watch this remember Abraham died before Moses and and the prophets right yes and Moses and Prophets left scriptures years after Abraham died right but now notice what Abraham knows but Abraham said they they have Moses and the prophets how did he know that how did he know what his brothers on Earth had at that time they have Moses

and the prophets oh that makes so much sense let them hear them meaning read their writings and he said no Father Abraham but if someone goes to them from the dead they'll repent he said them if they do not hear Moses and the prophets neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead how did Abraham know Moses and the prophets came after him left scriptures behind and that this man's Brothers had those scriptures on Earth at that moment how do you know all that well because if he's in heaven he's outside of

time now no Heaven is part of time no no okay so then heav and are part of time and creation only God is outside of time okay so then God how do told them God showed him so you just established they are aware what takes place on Earth because God makes them aware they are perfect and sinless so their prayers are perfect and powerful and they're still the church one with us and still love us and you see where the church came up with oh then then they must be praying for us yes okay that

makes sense end up story brother that's it and Jesus said they're not dead oh they're dead no Luke 20 3738 he says they're not dead they're all alive to them here let me show you so oh they're dead that means Jesus is lying and that means you're a blasphemy because Jesus can't lie you said what I'm gonna give it to you hold on Sir okay you're so excited man you're so excited Luke 20 3738 he says they're not dead there you go on the screen but the dead that the dead are raised even Moses showed

in the passage about the bush where he calls the Lord the god of Abraham the god of Isaac God of Jacob now he is not the god of the dead but of the living for all live to him so I dare you say Abraham is dead when Jesus says no he's alive but now watch here 49 to 53 John 8:49 to 53 so that's it man you got your case now it's up to you whether you want to believe it or not John 8: 49-53 Jesus answered I am not a demon but I honor my

father and you dishonor me yet I do not seek my own Glory there is one who seeks it and he will be the judge truly truly I say to you if anyone keeps my word he will never see death I dare you to tell me he's lying that Mary is dead say Mary is dead why would I say that this exactly because you can't you know you can't right called eternal life they shall never perish all right the Jews said to him now we know that you have a demon Abraham died and did the prophets

and you say if anyone keeps my word he will never taste death are you greater than our Father Abraham who died and the prophets died who do you claim to be now the final one John 11:25-26 so that's it that's where we get the community of saints their intercession and the intercession of the Blessed Mother I'm done right after this Andreas right after this John 11:25 to 26 Jesus said to her I am the resurrection and the life he who believes in me though he die yet shall he live and whoever lives and Believes In

Me shall never die do you believe this so Peter James John Paul Mary all believed in Christ are they dead or are they still alive they're alive end of story what's what do you got left buddy now go watch my series on communion of saints but that's it man now if you want to still not believe it that's between you and God man oh no no no I I believe it like it everything made perfect sense it's not like it didn't make any sense yeah like how some people that's why we get offended when people

say we're we're speaking to dead people that's a blasphemy because J says they're not dead we're worshiping them that's blasphemy we're not worshiping them and there's one mediator as if we don't know those passages this why I get angry where does the worship thing come from that's my that's literally my last in their stupidity they think if I ask Mary to pray for me that's worship no it's not asking is not worship it's not idolatry either no I've gone through series teaching that's that's garbage but I hope that answered you brother because yes not that

I want to cut you off it's already four hours and 12 minutes come back during I'm sorry I had my all these questions well come back tomorrow don't lose them WR him because it's already 4 hours 12 minutes and people are tired I'm tired thank you