Session 17:Photography & Filiming (WP)

Yes we are good to go okay perfect so I would just like to give a little info about luxure so he's an MBA person who has turned into a photographer and he has started at the age of 20 and he is in I'm an old guy now where he has started at age of 20 and it's been like 10 years plus 10 to 12 years plus he's this industry he has captured more 500 weddings be it International be it India he has done Everywhere he has got many prestigious award he has been pictured and paged

in many of the magazines and everything by bog B Scotch hoops and other thing that the list goes on because he has done some amazing work so it would be great if you have any question which is related to photography filming about any kind of license how do you do it the way he spoke about contract where he has not a he cannot show it right so whatever questions you Have perspective of a wedding planning please feel free to ask him okay so you can start the session great okay guys so uh before even okay

let me first do the screen share of uh you know uh just hold on let me um just uh all right let me screen share this some I'm not able to screen share what I wanted to screen sh okay just hold on okay So can you guys see the presentation give me a thumbs up if you can see it perfect okay perfect perfect oh TI Works uh okay guys so um before we even start the ideology of every wedding is that the planners uh and the photographers work in thing okay rather not only the fin

photographers but everybody involved it's a team effort to make a wedding look amazing the experience is amazing it's not only about photography but every single thing to be in sync it Works like a team so all your egos are out whether you're working with a new photographer all the senior most photographer all he goes out all of you are here for the client so you should always start with a very positive mind frame if you've ever had any clashes with that photographer before in life please forget about it and start it from from scratch scratch

because there might be there will be a lot of time the client really wants a particular Photographer okay so that's so idea of the whole thing is positivity you know it's very important for everyone to be positive and on the same uh plane to ensure the client gets a fantastic experience okay so um so first of all it's very important to understand what exactly is you know what are the styles of Photography that are there in total um so uh so one is called a tradition photog so obviously every company has a different name for

it uh for example we Call it storytelling and portraiture storytelling means um you know all the candid moment like for us candid is storytelling you know we telling a story and uh traditional I would like to call it portraiture what is traditional photography it's like ensuring that all the key people are captured in a very beautiful Manner and the portraits are done properly okay so when we go ahead we make sure that there are certain team members who are doing the storytelling Part where they're capturing all the moments properly they are ensuring that all the

emotions are captured properly and at the same time there's one team of the photography that is capturing the portrait part of it that the mom and dad could be together in a proper frame with a proper lighting and you know we should take the shot because everybody's spending crazy money on their outfits right so that needs to be captured apart from just the moments uh so these are Two aspects of Photography um um and then comes your uh videos uh videos uh you have again a cinematic type video and some photographers still do the traditional

type video like you know the three hour 4 hour long videos uh that's very rare nowadays because people don't have the time to see such long videos but still some clients might have that requirement so when you are creating that you know your options of photographers you should always not only Have the mix of photographers in your um you know panel you should also have photographers with good relationship where who can pull off something like this for example if you tell me that LX we need a 6ar video I might not be the right person

you know for that particular wedding uh so cinematically um um you should also know how it is created you know so videos when they're created cinematically that means we're taking shot by short we're taking a shot We're taking another shot we're stitching it together to create a 40 minute film or five minutes I'll come to the detail deliverables but you should basically know that one aspect is a very cinematic aspect it looks like film it feels like a film and one aspect is very traditional aspect that you know a camera is rolling like how scho

old school camera used to be rolling and shooting the whole thing do it it still exists but very few People are able to pull it off nowadays because uh you know the shooting Styles have evolved apart from that apart from that drone is a very common thing nowadays uh uh drone permissions are a gray area where ideally a photographer should not be able to get in if because if you planning different locations for I a planner should get sorted with the property the Drone permissions or everything uh at least the if the photographer has it

in the contract We'll talk about the contracts later on in our talks but drone is a very important aspect specifically for Destination weddings it is very very important because how will you capture the establishment of the place if it's a Goa wedding how will you show it's a beach if it's a palace wedding how will you show a palp if the Drone is not there so for a destination weding it becomes like a no-brainer to have the Drone 9 5% of the destination wedding Properties have no issues some of them have issues or some of

them have disclaimer forms please make sure that is done before the wedding starts because at the day of wedding there's a lot of chaos and you don't want to get like in literally in the last wedding we kept telling the planner that you know get this sorted get this sorted they said okay sorted on the day it's like okay it might take like eight hours you know because we didn't get the police Permission or something like that so you know one event could not have the Drone now what happens it's not about the planner's fault

or the photographers fall the client loses it the client does not have the Drone shows of that particular day that particular event so you know so that ways it's very important to ensure that all these things are sorted beforehand 360 or VR shooting is still new it is still being evolved it's in that getting evolved Process so um so uh that is something new to offer it's still not there yet you know we still we are still exploring it but still an option that can be given but the budget becomes crazy so that me to

be you know it's for those clients who want something different and something I don't mind spending on photography extra apart from the usual things the final thing is you know having a team which does reals and everything for the client um you know a Team of one as can you elaborate more on the VR and the 360 perspective please like how does it happen so what we'll uh what we'll do in terms of questions we note down the questions and once we end the conversation when we end the uh you know presentation that's when we

are we open the round for Q&A all right so that you know at the end we have all the questions sorted all right so so that the flow keeps continuing okay sure all Right so so uh so yeah so one and the third aspect the final aspect is social media like these days people are really liking uh reals and everything every bride wants to go viral um so sometimes it's kind of recommended to have a separate team but that doesn't mean they get they the two teams are clashing um like the main photography team and

the social media teams I one or two people they come and they have very specific role that they have to take some shots Some transition shots to the bride and groom and they do it um so if the client wants it that's another thing that you should always have in your mind all right and the social media team usually shoots with a phone so they have a very small setup two phones two people they do their job and very little 10 10 de five reels 12 15 reels depends on what what the client wants okay

um uh now uh identifying your favorite uh it is a very important thing because only if you Have a favorite that's when only you can you know suggest certain uh photographers and filmmakers to the client and for that it's very important for you to understand the style you should know the photographers by heart what um you know what their style is what kind of work they do and how do you identify photographers number one if you go on any of these conventions like ja or you know uh you can identify photographers but what I feel

the best Way of identifying a good photographer is when you're at an event so if you're planning with a you know wedding planning company uh then keep your eye open you knower photographer so when you mean a good photographer number one uh flexibility I feel that that's a very important thing that you know uh I want all rooms in the same property in the five star I want all this I want to travel in business class uh if you feel that photographer is not being flexible That's a first de flag according to me uh we

are very flexible but we need our things in terms of you know our Logistics like we need one room in the property or something like that secondly the vi that you know you're seeing thirdly they're on time they're well dressed uh they talk very well or if not talk very well they're doing their job you know some people might not talk but they do the job you know a client they're corresponding to it a prompt on Groups or if not that prompt at least mentioning that we are shooting and we' reply later and the most

important things that deliverables um uh the biggest pain point of this industry with photographers is the deliverables and the timely deliverables because all of us are prepared for um an offseason but most of the photographers struggle during season time because suddenly there's a lot of work and lot of deliverables are to be done and these Delays if delays happen it's okay you know uh there can be an issue with the editing team they can be an editor who's not feeling well or something that delay needs to be communicated there's a profession way of handling things

we also endend up sometimes delaying but we inform the client that hey guys I'm really sorry my editor on to leave uh my deliverable was supposed to be next week but might they take one week more that's a professional way of addressing to Things the unprofessional way of addressing things is not taking calls so if that happens please do not work with that photographer because then you'll be always running after the photographer um so these are certain ways of you know understanding and also uh you know I've the main things I forget if you like

their work if the work client likes their work if they're not so some photographers actually end up shooting just for themselves that you know I want This I like this but we have to understand that we're shooting for the client yes please bring your style but at the same time include the style of the client what the client wants okay so uh and it's like a mixed thing like if a client tells me feedback give me feedback I will tell him that take your feedback but I'll implement it in my way you know so um

so yeah so that's the best way of doing this okay um yeah so I think I've covered this one in case you Have any other questions please not them down and I'm I I'll answer them at the end okay understanding the process uh how the process works what are the delivery timelines if the deliv timelines are too long that's also you know kind of a red flag um uh so yeah so that's another thing um okay this is a very important slide again it doesn't matter who your favorite is you might love someone's work but

it might be an absolutely wrong Fit for the client for example um uh a particular photographer is great with you know uh more intimate weddings it's very conversational photographers comes with a smaller team uh great for Destination Weddings But you know smaller destination weddings uh who are very used to smaller setups uh that photographer might not be very good for a very say a marvar type client which Larger than Life entries and you know with so much sound all the time and so Much production value all the time that the photographer is not a to

able to capture those kind of intimate moments so you know it's very important for you to understand coner photographer genre orent requirement so for that you need to have at least like you know about four to 10 photographers in your panel um of different genes you know you should have three favorites of each genre one genre could be like you know Someone who can shoot intermet someone who is hybrid or someone who's very good with extreme traditional stuff so you know you can basically figure out the client requirement and then out of the 10 people

you've really liked you can suggest three or four or five you know okay we'll continue that again um we'll talk about the process on how we should you guys should approach the client um okay creative brief first you need to uh understand the itenary properly But First you need to once you figure out the it's very important to lay down the itary properly so that there's no discrepancy in the quods uh that we get and the itary includes like the event uh event time like how long will the event be or from what time does

it start usually 80% of the weddings have a similar itenary so all the photographers understand it but packs is very important uh a team required for a 50 packs event will be very different from A 400 packs event a 400 packs matak CH will be very different from 400 packs s you know so so you need to understand the event and you need to understand that the photographer needs to know the event to suggest a team side for example uh for example a a 400 people matak K Chi uh will require a two plus two

like a two photographer two cinematographers because and plus time for not to spend too much on that particular EV whereas a s of 400 people will require Full-fledged 7 to eight members shoot a team depending on what the photographer wants or what the client wants and also what the photographer once again as I mentioned to short list uh you know about four to 10 um you know photographers and then send them uh about three to four based on the client requirements um okay so mentioned the deliverables is something that you should not I I feel

that a planner should not tell the client deliverables You should get the deliverables from them and then uh you know mention the deliverables to the client and then sit with the client that these are the various kind of deliverables that the photographers thing what would you like to have you know what kind of deliverables and then you can negotiate the deliverables uh with the clients for for with the photographer for example as a photographer I give about 2,000 edited Photos the client says no I want 4,000 then you can come to me and be like

okay L can you offer 3,000 like yeah that's cool if we offer in the first round we offer three reels or two reels the client says no no I want six reels then I'll tell them okay every deel has an extra call so you know so take the deliverables from all the uh phot rers and then sit with the client discuss the Cote discuss the deliverables and then figure out what is the client what is That mix that the client wants in terms of does he want the long film does he want too many re

you know a lot of my clients don't want re because they don't want to put anything on social media uh so so it's very important some photographers might offer you 10 reels some photographer might offer you two reels it depends on what the client wants okay get their Instagram profile get their u YouTube videos Vio links share it with the client Try to get more relevant films for example if the wedding is in Delhi or the wedding is in Bombay it's better to have a Bombay wedding or Delhi wedding links if the wedding is in

Palace it's more important to get a palace wedding links so if a client says LX I'm getting married in Fairmont the banner says that okay LX the client is getting married in font can you send me Palace weddings I'll send them five Palace wedding links so that the client can relate if they're Getting married in Goa and I'm sending them fair amount links that you know there can be can be a discrepancy of you know what uh you know the the client sees though if there's some link that as a photographer I want K this

client even though it's a palace wedding please send it to the client because after talking to the client I feel that this is something they really like then you know you can go with the photographer um take quotes obviously Take written Cotes uh don't take uh you know ball take ballps and then take written codes whatever makes the process quicker uh but obviously if you have a panel I'm sure you will have the ballpack of these photographers uh again share the quotes discuss with the client and then do the second round of you know meetings

or the first round of meetings um okay um again short list first you've got the quotes from five six photog 10 photographers uh find the budget find The deliverable thing short list like three to four then I think you should arrange meetings very very important to get the white check white check is the most important thing in photography these days I feel if the client is vibing with the photographer it's good to go okay um and then from three further short list to two or maybe from four further short list to two um then after

you shortlisted again as I mentioned that if the photographer has Given certain deliverables you have a certain set of deliverables try to match it try to come up to the final deliverable thing um finalize the budget that okay you know we adding this deliverable what would be the budget make sure everything is on paper to the te my biggest problem with the planners who are not like this is that they'll tell me L there's one small event please include in the quotation we would need one plus one photographer one photo one Video like okay cool

you add this in the quotation uh afterwards we get to know the event is a 800 people event it's a proper full-fledged event and we have been given one plus one we mentioned one plus one in quotation now it again again the negotiation starts and then you're like no no no we told you before it'll be a big function you know it to avoid it it's better to make things very clear on paper since beginning uh do check with the hospitality istics Rider Requirement um so there are multiple aspects to it one is the hospitality

aspect to it in the sense that how much what what kind of travel would you need uh uh some photographers like to do their Travels by themselves because they have back-to-back weddings some photographers say that okay you do everything um Logistics how many rooms do you want in the property how many rooms outside the property uh again you know come to the most optimized thing in Terms of Rider requirements what kind of lighting do you want in sound and light if theage St so we actually recommend we actually ask for the stage sizes beforehand so

that you know we know what lenses to carry also you know so um so it's very important to share as many things with the photographer and to uh you know understand as many things beforehand in terms of logistics you know so all these things should be discussed before um uh you Know so so that uh you know all of us all of you are on the same page for example uh the team has to the venue at 11:00 and the photographer says you know so so these things Logistics have to be discussed about the rooms

about the meals about the meals we'll discuss that later it's a very big pain point for the photographers um and I'll give you a very good solution for that as well um execution followup on deliverables that's the final thing uh Once so your job with photographer actually does not end after the event it is very important for you to track how the deliverables are going even if not followup if see delivery time sometimes the photographer would have done a good job that the client is not happy because of some other things so don't judge a

photographer purely based on how the client is responded if you're liking the world you're liking the professional the professional of the Photographer you can still check him in you know uh because some clients can be very overdemanding as well so never judge a client purely on client feedback have your own gut as well that uh you know okay this photographer was did a great job I liked his work uh I liked everything I liked his deliverables he's been following up with the client for the album pictures but a client is not because what happens um

a lot of times clients don't give us pictures for the Albums okay this is a very big problem uh now for example the wedding is on 26th December it is a veryy every every year 6th December will be heavy okay wedding on 6 December we followed up throughout the offseason September a pict and client turns up on 23rd November that guys my birthday anniversary is coming these are the pictures make album for me on 6th December it's my anniversary how will a photographer deliver the album in two Weeks in peak time when everybody on the

earth is shooting weddings and in weddings so it is also important that you also see the understanding you also need to understand where what situation it is what time is it and is the client is being unreasonable or not uh at that time to give your marks to that photographer in your mind you know that then it's wrong you know but the client is giving the pictures in November December and telling Weeks then you need to give you know benefit of of photographer certain things you'll also understand when you're in the industry okay okay moving

on um okay as a wedding planner you can definitely influence uh uh the client decision at the same time that power needs to be uh not abused so don't go for Kickbacks you should go for Kickbacks it's your right you know it's okay every planner has a different Business model you make your own business model that's all cool but don't give a wrong suggestion to the client because one photographer has told you I'll give you a 20% cut or 30% cut be very wise in making your decision because if the photographer giving you more Kickback

and your the photograph is very unprofessional it's your reputation which is at stake so make a business model it's all good it's it's it's a legit thing it's perfectly fine to take A commission from the photographer uh because you are providing that work to him so as a return it's okay to do that U but at the same time uh don't let that influ that thing influence the your decision of having a photographer okay um but at the same time based on the client photographers your your thing should be number one how was my past

experience with that photographer okay number two if you've not worked with the photographer check with other planners Planners have a very good Community okay have you ever worked with shown tell me all the positives all the negatives they'll tell okay you know these these things were good these these things were bad I think you can go ahead or you cannot should not go ahead so always take referals if you've not worked with the photographer it's always good to our industry is a referal industry you do not work with anybody without ref this goes with your

meny artist your Photographer your band you don't want that you like someone or someone's giving you Kickback and the photo the person turns up after two hours of the event you know so always take a check a reference check is very very important okay okay uh bride and family meetings um so when you uh uh what happens after you know you close a photographer or you're closing the photographer when you're making them meet um uh so uh get at least four to five teams as I Discussed he client should have an option of four to

five teams let the client have creative discussion I feel as a planner it's good to let the client talk and you can talk more about logistics than creative things um uh because it is the client's requirement right so uh on the client creative vent of mind that okay know I want my wedding to look like this but at the same time you can figure out you should be talking more logistics thing in the meeting more Than the cre let the client in the photographer talk the Crea creative thing see how excited the photographer is see

uh you know you also can gauge from outside that what you are liking in that meeting and then give your thoughts okay um you discuss you tell the photographers about the concepts and ideas you should also you know gauge that you know for example there was this wedding without faras and the it was a carnival thing I was really excited I Told the planner boss this is the wedding that's that's my wedding like you know I love the wedding and so you know planner also saw that excitement in me that you know this guy's really

excited I think we should we should close this wedding with L because he can deliver something unique with this this is kind of his style of shooting it's his zone of shooting so do share all the concept and ideas because if a photographer knows them he can or she Can you know show show their excit excitement and based on their excitement you can also have that gauge that you know who might be the right fix and um and after all of this uh have an open commercial discussion commercials are so important the payment terms are

so important sometimes payment terms are not clear and it's a normal thing for the client to say I'm not paying because my deliverables are not there the photographer is saying I'm not paying I'm not giving deliverables till my payment is done dude you need to sort this out beforehand on paper 50% Advance 20% Advance 100% before shoot 100% after delivery whatever it is the term the payment term should be done beforehand and you need to stick to the contract both the client and the photographer because this is one thing that can create our relationships Okay

so uh so that's is something that needs to be managed properly okay talking About the soap of work um so basically scope of work again as I think I've mentioned it but uh it's very important to uh you know tell the nature of events the number of guests in that particular event as I mentioned even if even if the number of guests are more but the uh the event is like s you might not need a very big team for that first the client might not want to spend too much and secondly you won't need

a very big team for Mari specific requirements Um from the photography team uh ke client need the same day or Same Day photos uh what kind of um uh fames they are they shooting is it the right mix of uh Team just hold on sorry yeah yeah and then uh the venue guidelines permissions for example you've put drone in the contract but guess what the venue does not allow so make sure that uh you know the venue Guidelines are met the permissions are already before you sign the contract or there because it can be a

very weird thing and a weird situation when my team is for example in a property shooting the wedding the Drone fly is there and now we have to pay the Drone fly the client has to pay the Drone fly but the Drone cannot fly because there no permissions so you don't want such situations to come so make sure that you are there to the uh you know the venue Guidelines and then only you finalize on things and um uh you know what kind of edits you're giving to trailer full film they come to the deliverables

at the end we open a contract and show you what all is there in my contract and how how what are the usual uh discussion points with with the planners we'll go through every single point of my particular contract um coverage and events uh what is the ideal coverage um so this is how it is this is how it looks like uh Usually people go for pre- wedding shoots uh these days also even though now pre- wedding shoots have become slightly lesser as compared to what it was uh but it still exists every year we

if you're shooting like just giving you a number if you're shooting like 50 weddings there'll be a 10 to 20% people going for pre- weding shoots so pre- weding shoots is very simple um you have photography and you have a pre- wding film uh some people want the pre- wding Film to be played at the sangit some people don't want it to be played at s some people just want it for themselves some people want a very Grand pre- wedding shoot some people want a very low key pesty cozy white pre- wedding shoot rather we're

shooting two back toob back three weddings in uh first week of October both are PS apart one wants very cozy stuff you're going to the hills in a cozy airnb you know having sweaters and the mood board is Very warm other pre-wedding TL made Su for big outfit big uh you know everything so as a photographer we share a mood board with the client so first we understand the client requirement then we share a mood board with the L that you know um since that's the vibe these are the outfit we suggest the outfits because

uh again we know the color tones we know the uh so how we actually go about the pre-wedding we first do a zoom call we understand the style of what the Photograph or the client wants number two then we suggest them a list of properties that you know these are the three four properties as a planner you can also suggest the photographer that you know guess what this client uh you know got this property it was really nice I would highly recommend it once we finalize the venue and the property then we come with The

Outfits okay and the vibe of the shoot and that what we looking at so that's about pre- wedding Shoot in terms of weddings there can be smaller events uh there can be events non-event shoots as well for example um the client wants the s practice to be shot it's a very common thing you know so be ready for that to be you know told to photographer beforehand or tell them uh they can be me the usual events are mendi HDI s cocktail wedding and reception every photo has his or her way of you know doing

things some people charge event wise some people charge day Wise okay so um in terms of creativity um now this is where the planner's role comes in to get the perfect uh you know perfect looking wedding it's important for the planner if you doing the decor as well and the photographer to be on the same page um what you guys need to ensure is that all the uh entries are creatively executed so that the photographer can take the shots accordingly and also okay one thing Which I highly recommend uh once your creative discussion is going

on involve the photographer how the entries are going to be planned let the photographer also give suggestions how the J is going to be planned or call the photographer for a REI uh pay for the traveling say or orever it is for example um uh we have we do re every year we do one or two three Reis every year wherever the client call is I went to Abu Dhabi just for a REI you know the client wanted me To be there I told them my days these are my dates uh yeah photographer Rey it's

always very good so not always you might need a Rey but if you feel that um you know the client is interested in doing a lot of things they have very interesting entries planned they have a g do call the photographer tell them this is a photographer can give very good suggestion for example a lot of times it happens the J happens and the fireworks happen and fireworks C so idly The fireworks should be behind the couple so I can get the fireworks you know when the Jala happening behind them now that if the photographer

is there and theyy they can tell that can you please not not the fireworks of happening right on top of me how will I get the couple with the with the fireworks in the same frame you know so these are things which a photographer can only recommend if you're going for smoke bombs or Sky shots where to be Placed you know if the entry is happening you know how can we avoid chaos of guests coming in the entry these are the things it's very important for you know you to have the Rey so this is

the creative part that all the team members have to combine together and see I'm even discussing the bridal entry if the bride wants the in see some brides are like I'm an A type a bride I will do everything myself I'll tell but yes that type a bride Vision should be Communicated and it should be a mix you know getting everyone together is your job literally you know getting everyone together and ensuring uh qu time p and can when can we have that complete creative discussion of um how is going to be sometimes we don't

know there's a surprise performance by the bride we just get to know when the surprise happens oh it was a surprise so uh so it's very important for us to be to know so ask the bride or let or make sure the Photographer knows it uh make sure the event flow is very clear so that you know he BR make sure the entries are very clear make sure the event flow is very clear give a not more than the it give a detailed event flow that to the photography team that this is what time what

will happen even for that matter if some clients are so goddamn uh you know specific they actually tell you know so you know so that helps That helps I'm not saying see I'm not a big fan of uh you know taking that unknowingness or the things that happen randomly at a wedding but the more planned it is the better it is okay so uh so yeah so your job is basically to ensure every team is on the same page every every team knows entry um I a good photographer should ask himself we always ask ourselves

to the planner quick brief though or all the Planners should actually connect the photographer and choreographer because a lot of time choreographers are planning the entries so it is very important the phph it should you make sure that photograph so visually it's very important that and you're ensuring a good experience for the guest as well obviously not poking the photographer Too much as well at the same time okay uh this is some of our work uh I think this aun's work is well mixed in this um I'll quickly uh go on to you know what

kind of Trends are happening uh these days in photography um so well Trends are everywhere the top angle shots are there uh these is what major more than the trends what people are liking quick deliveries uh apps are there for face recognition I'm not sure if you know about it but all of us are offering now Apps so this is called light painting these are preing sh the top down shs uh This this term is called light painting in case someone asks you um okay and all these shots the best time to shoot a pre-wedding

shoot is early morning and evening so if the client says I want to get my preing done in the afternoon you should support the photographer the best time to shoot is when the light is on the side okay when the light is on top when the sun is on Top it's the bad time to shoot so in India a good time to shoot in summers is 5:30 a.m. to 7:30 a.m. all my clients are ready at 5:00 a.m. for sure 5:30 last wedding in jaur in rambag I was doing the client was ready dot 5:30

to shoot so because they wanted good photos it has to be communicated to the client that your good photos will come only if you also cooperate if the client if you ready at 5:30 client turns up at 8 dude the light's gone now we can't do Anything like you know the shot that you've seen on our Instagram you can't get that uh you give us Sunset you give us so whenever we planning the pre- wedding shoot I a lot of Sayed enjoy the shoot it is very important because for photography lighting is everything and you

need to also understand you also need to understand what is a good time to shoot you also need to understand the basics of photography for you to make any Recommendation see your recommendation can be a supportive recommendation for photographer or if the photographer is really new never correct a photographer in front of client the photographer might feel like you know bad about it always tell them on the site ke Hey listen I this is the thing um can we do this can we you know do this or that you know what do you think it's

always good to have a constructive conversation but it's also good to have not to cut Each other in front of the client very very important for example in the last wedding we made sure we were very pissed with the planner in one of the weddings that you know don't don't permission I never wrote on the client group that you know the CL is not doing this I wrote to the planner that please please please I don't want to go to the client I don't want the client to get involved in this please get this done

it's very important to maintain that you know the Brotherhood or the siblinghood of the planner and the photographer together if you have any suggestions please make it the photographer has accept it but if you're cutting the photographer in between the photographer can get like pissed off you know or you know I'm not interfering in your work so please don't interfere in my work but the same you can make suggestions that Hey listen I I I think I can convince the client for an early morning shoot and if he can do an Early morning shoot that's

a legit suggestion a good photog good shoot can only happen early morning good pre- weding shoot so if it's possible help the photographer get that particular thing all right um create your own USB um and uh Magic of yours in the sense that it's very important to understand uh your particular USB as a planner in terms of Photography that okay you know uh we can ensure that you know all your you know entries are sorted in terms of Photography because if you know photography very well you will actually create setups or help create setups that

are very good for entries and very good for your jalas so I think creating your own USP when terms of photography is a very good USB to have for a planner I love working with planners and I highly suggest planners who understand for such a big problem and then we have to see if you Put our external lights all of it will come in the Drone shot it's better that the ambient light is so good that we actually Shar a lighting document with the planner 80% planners 70% planners don't uh don't read it 30% planners

who read it trust me their weddings have gone viral because that is out of experience we Shar it and they know performan performance videos go viral and trust me if things go viral You everyone benefits from it um okay so so so yeah so cinematography Trends um uh basically uh now cinematography also has become like a very big thing so honestly videos are a bigger thing than photos now so that is one thing you should understand so whenever you get a a team you should always see the videos more than their photos to be very

honest because uh photos I feel is a relatively don't quote me anyway relatively an easier job because you know you set the Light you take the photo video it has to be stitched so on the wedding 50% of the job is done rest of job is actually editing photos also edit is required but a photo editing is more minimal than a video editing so now as a video editor it is now as a video as a cinematography you should understand different genes of cinematography some people make it very documentary some people like to make their

videos like a music video lavish Big Grand some people like Fast Cuts some people like more storytelling it is very important to see to show the client different work see client person are they liking slow cute movies are they liking more hardcore heavy fun party movies or you know Fast Cuts and everything so you need to also understand what after you show their work what is the client inclining towards and if the photographer that you like can Implement that or has Implemented that before okay so uh in terms of cinematography again the major Trends are

happening right now is reals um a lot of photographers are now offering real uh new thing is happening is some teams are actually offering vertical shooting so when we shoot we shoot horizontal always right like because we shoot for a TV or a screen but sometimes when for example we were shooting an influencer weding for her All the content was social media so three cinematographers were shooting like this and one cinematographer actually was shooting like this so called a vertical shooting you guys should know it that if you ever end up shooting a celeb wedding

or an influenc wedding they might need one camera which is shooting vertical because they might need a lot of re for themselves okay uh so that's one thing that you should be aware Of okay coming to the VR and 360 Trend uh VR is an upcoming Trend 360 is an upcoming Trend it's shot with the 360 camera uh so what happens that uh you need you wear the the AR glasses the VR glasses after the delivery is done and then you can actually walk through the wedding okay so you wear it and you see Barat

you can turn around and see the Barat fully so basically what happens that a 360 camera is put and the 360 camera shoots 360 I wish I could stand in show but uh the idea is that 360 means so 360 is an upcoming thing it is still like in that evolving process but it is starting to happen and we just delivered one client 360 and they really like it obviously it was a according to me it was um a bit me deliverable to give but the client loved it because he could see his Barat like

he wore the VR glasses and the groom saw his Barat he saw himself and he turned around he saw His barati reacting to him because you put the 360 you recorded you put the 360 somewhere else you recorded So then you Stitch the footages it's a slightly lenier process and uh it is very difficult to pull off right now but it is still there and you know it can become a very interesting deliverable a 360 is more of a traditional type so it's not like a stit together thing it's like bat happening so I put

the 360 camera and it shooting For like 15 minutes and I change the position of the 360 camera then shooting for example in a 360 camera if I put it at the Mand I can see you if you wear the glasses you can see the mup happening you can see the full cover mup if you turn around you can see the guests also sitting there so it's like you know a 360 view of everything that is possible I would recommend uh you know to see with the VR glasses uh a a photographer 360 uh before

pitching it To the client and even the photograph pitching you should see at least one VR video with the glasses on because on the screen it's not visible if you have the VR glasses then you can actually see it happening you can actually walk through also so we've not done the walkth through video but it is possible to actually walk through the Barat so uh so I don't have that much information on the walkth through part but the basic static 360 yes it is pretty Interesting okay um coming to the deliverables uh these are the

usual deliverables every photographer has a plus minus but in India this is a standard thing in us it's very different obviously because you're concentrating on Indian market um so preing shoot uh there's a one minute video or a 4 to five minute video or either a one minute video or either a 4 to five minute video we give a two to three minute video only uh because we our clients again every Photog so these are all the things every photographer will have a plus minus one thing or the other so basically you get one video

it can be a small teaser video of like 40 seconds just to show preing videos coming on the preing video might be a 2 to three I would like to collect the 4 to5 now because 4 to5 becomes a bit boring for just a pre- wding video uh 2 to three or three and a halfish Max is a very good video size um in terms of wedding films uh uh everybody wants Reals at least 30 50 60% of w that we should want re so uh reels can be you know every event reels so every

event can have one small reel of 30 4 4 50 re always under 1 minute 40 seconds 50 seconds 30 seconds uh so you can have like four to five 3 to four four to five reels of each like each event reels if there four Events maybe one re each a trailer a trailer can be like uh you know again a four to five thing it again you know every photographer will have a Different deliverable so three minute I'm telling you what I give I give a four to five minute thing I feel a four

to five minute trailer will do justice to the film I know 40 to 45 minute film this can again be 25 minutes for some photographer can be 1.5 minutes 1.5 hours for some photographers day wise really we discussed okay now s family performance this one is really important guys um and you as a planner also needs to ensure that if there's a space for Riser Riser means performance people want that performance to be proper you know full camera I always write it in my contract please give me Riser if you have space if you give

a riser I'll get i'll my camera will be elevated and I'll get a perfect view of the stage and nobody even if people are crossing they'll be under my camera and I'll get the perfect video full s everybody practices like crazy for s s is a big big deal in Indian writings now it is honestly people don't care about the full film now they want the sangit video to be proper because you know this is one way all the family members get together they enjoy the performance and they want to see it uh only clients

who been unhappy with shutdown's work have been only because if the S video wasn't good trust me uh if you've done all the things the promo perfect photos are perfect everything perfect if the video is not Good enough they'll reject everything they like this photographer is not good so you need to always see I would recommend see one Tangi video of every photographer once for sure this is something which every client wants as much as they want the and this is this one thing that gets neglected because like fourth or fifth deliverable but important to

other because the whole family sits and watches the S video together T is again a new not a new Deliverable has been happening since six seven years but it is a highly recommended deliverable Carlo sameit this is again because you know it's a great end to the wedding though it's highly recommended for weddings which are a Sundowner because then the after can show the same day edit and trust me it's a great end if the edit is good it's a fantastic end to the wedding um I don't know I have footages of the last same

day edit uh Where literally the bride is crying the whole thing is crying and you know everybody hugged each other and everything and the party starting everybody started partying everybody came and H me it's a great end to the wedding uh so I would highly recommend it music video I would equally highly not recommend it it is something which is fake uh it is something which a lot of clients wanted so if you want it please go ahead music video is like you Know a lip dub or something like everybody singing on the same song

and Stitch together it's called a lip dub like a music video for example if you're playing Galaga you play the lyrics and you go to each client each each family member and they're singing the same thing it's an outdated concept I feel wedding should be more real and should not be my again this is My Philosophy wedding should be more real it should be very authentic and it should not be made Up obviously people want big events people want big entries but at the same time it should not be about a certain thing it should

not be scripted or it should not be fake uh two emotions lose out when you're doing fake things okay um also one deliverable that should be added here that we offer and what I think some people have started offering is the same day photos uh again as I mentioned the biggest pain point is um the delivery Timeline very big pain point for a lot of clients if the photographer is able to deliver the photos and the promo on the same day when I say the same day CH December go sh and 8 December the photograph

is committing please take that please take that from the photographer uh if he's able to deliver all the photo photos your work is also ends there you don't have to follow up on other things photo deliver promo deliver you'll be happy client will be Happy photographer happy happy ending so if if the photographer offers that deliverable please take it please take it convince the client okay so these are basic deliverables that we offer apart from this albums are there um again a recommendation for albums so so what happens every deliverable is in the photographers code

you know giving the trailer giving the full film giving the S video we don't ask clients anything we know what we do is we make them fill a Questionnaire we know exactly what they want and make it so we don't have to ask them anything in terms of albums the client needs to give us pictures for the albums now what happens in that if the client does not give us the pictures for the albums for two years three years there's a deliverable still pending okay now the client will can call you after 2 years also

and then you like it's been five years also where People have not selected the photos for me and two and thing I recommend don't put albums in the contract always put tell tell tell the client that you know after your shoot is done say and then you make the album afterwards you know whenever you're ready with the photos let the let the photographer B you then okay so ideally this is the best way because you know what after things are delivered it Project is closed you happy photographers is happy client is happy you know that's

just me the best way of going about it okay photo boots um everybody loves photo boots people love getting pictures in photo Boots These are various type of photo boots I won't be spending too much time on this particular thing maybe take a screenshot of this um these are different types of photo boots uh and uh why I won't discuss much about it Because uh I don't do this so photo boots is something that the photo boot speciic companies I a basic idea of 360 boots where you know the camera rotating and you know clients

can the idea of photo boo is that you know uh apart from just having the main team there's a usually a separate team does this photo boot thing that's why I don't know much about it so um photo booth is where people can go you know it can be a miror photo booth where they see their photo And they press a button and their you know say Polaroid comes out or uh you know it can be a 360 photo booth so they different kind of photo and clients really enjoy it as a viewer I can

say that you know they are they magazine cover photo boots they very different type of photo Bo that you basa as a planner you create a magazine cover like uh say vog and everything clients really enjoy it highly recomend it I don't have much Knowledge about it in terms of what does what but keep it they'll be really happy about it okay these are the various type of photo boots These are photos uh for different types of photo boots uh that you can see over here this is the 360 photo that I'm talking about the

one on the bottom left um okay um okay now coming to our work again uh things that are very important to keep in mind is see normal coverage candid moments and Everything these are things usually solo so every event should have one solo picture of the not not one solo pictures of the Bri solo pictures of the groom pictures of couple together and family pictures so I'm talking about individual family photos that means mom dad of both siid different picture uh siblings best friends their portraits and them together the toughest part in a wedding is

to get everyone together because everyone is scattered so please Help the photographer so I think you should plan it I love planning these pictures with my so what I do usually I have moments where everyone's together if it's an engagement the moment ring a change I quickly tell the MC to make an announcement always so you know outside the country uh outside in outside India in us they actually have a session for family photos uh in India there's no session like that so what happens photographer So ideally the best way of doing this what I

do is engagement photographer so I'll take a mic and I'll be like congratulations on your engagement can we have the mom dad of bride side mom dad of Groom side can we have the siblings on the stage please for the family photo because that's a moment where everybody's around them because it's engagement and you can get it done engagement immediately aftera get the Photos click get the photos you need to find those moments where everyone is together St ceremony make an so you can always tell the MC it should be a part of your thing

tell the MC to make that one announcement how can you have both the parents I do this but other planner see again I'm a photographer who has a 10 years of experience 12 years of experience but there'll be new Photographers who who might not have that experience so it very important to help them out for example a client does not have a budget for a good for for an experienced photographer a new photographer might be great photographer but because of lack of experience it's your duty to help him get those family shots you know for

your client I know that it's your client too right so find those moments where it's very easy to get the family together one of Them is the engagement one of them is the Jala uh in the meni it's the moment the couple enters you know the moment couple enters goes to the stage or wherever they go if you have an MC please tell him to make that announcement it literally literally takes five minutes you know 5 minutes and these pictures you know the full family shots are the one that really say everybody really enjoys these

full family shots and you know 50% of the Clients don't end up getting them because the iary never mentioned it uh and uh they never got the time because it was never planned if things are not planned it will not happen at a wedding so uh it is very tough to get everyone together but please make sure uh the MC announces that it's time for a family photo can everyone come can can the first can can I request the first family the mother and the Father of the Bride and the mother and the father of

the Room or you know they I to take names you know so I take name of the siblings I I make sure I'm friends with them I call them bro you need to come here I talk like that at wedding so you know so I call them over I take the photo and please let the party then I'm not bothering anyone bother and then you take because it is so important for a family to be together and you take a shot because it's that once in lifetime thing and you don't Have a family photo so

by Hook by crook do anything let's get that family photo done so this is very very important uh in terms of key people coverage in terms of key people coverage this is also very important uh we have a questionnaire uh I'll I'll tell you my process in a bit um we have a questionnaire where the clients have to attach the photos of the key people once they attach the photos of the key people we make a presentation for the photography team I do that my Team does that he Mom Dad bright side Mom Dad brother

sister important bu you know there might be that one important relative and groom side Mom Dad brother sister groom's best friends cannot be missed you know so make like 10 people presentation give it to the team team opens it up there might be that one bua who's so important but it's so godamn introvert She'll always be in a corner she'll never get shot but to make sure if you have a photo the team will go and Take the photo so please make sure the team gets these photos or you provide them with the photos of

the key family members I the team should should do it see you can't again I will I'm a photographer I might take a photographer side but IDE a photographer should ask for it if a photographer is asking for a for the photos of family that means he is he's concerned about it you know he wants it to be short so pleas please make sure but at the same time you also Don't want again the photographers new he's the great talented guy but does not know much about you know family cage when I started off there

was no there were two photographers shooting the whole wedding we missing half of the important people because we didn't know things we were talented but we were young we were 20s in our early 20s and you know we were doing whatever we wanted to do um because again we were like oh we need to create good content For the bride and groom because all of it was about the bride in the groom we didn't care much about when I'm 24 that short it can be a very embarrassing thing for a photographer uh so and as

a planner because you made that recommendation so make sure uh if you've recommended then please ensure that you know these things things are there um uh and again not spoon feeding the photographer but if it's a new photographer you're working with good to Know um okay I think I've discussed this a lot of times before also um uh you know the relationship between the photography team the videography team the planning team sometimes you have a different photographer different videographer it happens a lot especially when you're working with someone like a wedding filmer and me together

we are two different teams coming together because someone wants wedding fil is so amazing they're like I Videographer the photograph this time we are shooting as a cinematographer and house in the cloud photographer so when you have a different photography videography you need to work with everyone together um and plan those moments as I mentioned ke photographer should approach if the photographer does not approach please tell or write it on the photography group or something okay always make a group with the photographer WhatsApp Group photographer and one group without the client okay the client doesn't

need to be bothered you know photographer because and you give them call times over there they should have the thing follow up the team PA gear KY I always do that I always have a separate group without the CL with the planners uh and make sure that because you don't want toother the plan you should be like happy faces always you know so it's always see it's A wedding all of us are running on we are crazy we are on back toback sched working 16 hours it's normal so don't take it on your heart uh

always bu gones are bygones take it positively move ahead let's make the wedding a kiass wedding to work with Okay uh um uh okay how do you brief a photographer and how do you brief the team um so briefing the photographer is basically again ENT split that is is very important for example Bri your job is to ensure one common thing that happens a lot of times with us like a lot of times with us is that uh we basically don't know an event we are on a destination wedding uh we are shooting an event

suddenly planner calls there is there's a ceremony happening in room number 223 L send someone urgently like memory C Mard Format you know it's very important to ensure you have the you have the small details of the identity as well if the ceremony is happening if something is happening and and you know obviously the photographer will go quickly and G you so make sure that that har doesn't happen all the small ceremonies happening in the rooms give them a time before prep at least if you know in my case if my team Is staying in

another hotel what if they're not even there at the property you know B from one property to the other property might take 15 minutes and you know event so balancing the coverage split Bri side P you know so it is very important for you also to communicate that boss you have a six member team allocated today instead of 3 plus three or 4 plus 4 2 Plus six you know I don't need a bigger team in the bright side I need a big team on the groom side there's a crazy event over there so balancing

both sides balancing both sides coverage is very important as team bride again as a photographer you want that footage you want that you know Bridal solos and everything you know so so you know so balancing it out also check with the photographer what is the bation that you're doing um if you worked with the Photographer before not to do it but if you're working with someone for sure good to ask other factors to consider okay this is very very important Co precautions but in general safety precautions you should see uh stay meals travel so important

so important to get this on contract um so our thing is that we need to know the call time okay I'm talking about I'm giving you very Um recently what I've done okay so tra travel we always tell them we are a team of 12 or 14 coming we need for inas which stays with us and comes back client negotiat sometimes in property since two rooms property cool that works well so we are flexible that waying 11 the the client is like okay I'm happy to give you four inov to go from Delhi to go

to Fairmont and come back but Beach I don't think you will Need four can you manage with two we talk to the team so make sure these things are there in the contract don't leave it for the last moment and the photographers contract should say this travel plan some photographers we like for example we don't like to drive because we're already tired we we always take cabs and we go and we come back secondly uh stay how many rooms in the property how many rooms outside the property sometimes the Property sold out sold out first

of all we need a room as a as a photographer some photograph might be able to do it and option then needs to be communicated before like if you need a room in the property and sometimes turn down you know so so it's something that needs to be discussed with the photographers beforehand it should not be last moment Thing and the photogra like cont so and again you don't want these problems to come up so you need to ensure that you know all these things are there in the contract meals is a big thing okay

um so what we say that first of all then before you sign a deal with the property make sure there's a separate B for the photography team um vendor you know P me D for uh you know uh Fairmont I'm taking Fairmont it's a Great property to work I've never had an issue you have to understand photographer has to start shooting at 7 o' in the evening and without break idly it should be like this up in between you eat snacks and you eat life counters and if the if the plates are good then that's

the best thing but the meal should be arranged in a close by banquet nearby or a meeting room nearby in the property it takes two Minutes to go eat food and come back these things need to be plann because if the meal is somewhere else you know first of it takes 10 15 minutes to reach the meal area your photographer team will not be efficient 20 minutes are gone okay and we come every team comes with a limited team size because we don't want 20 shooters or 20 things to be there at the venue because

you don't want a big team also photographers so if I have three Photographers and the other four photog four people you know these me also you know go till a certain time so it needs to be planned in a certain manner that you know you have a separate bu photog smaller bouet which cost less um you know on the or you make the contract with the hotel including ke you know photographers be like in a in in the one of the weddings that we shot last we had two back toback jort wedding one in Fe

One in RAR both the things had the contract with the photographer in a banquet hall in a separate banquet which was closed by soont which is fine so as a photographer it's not about we want to have a lavish me we hardly have time to eat but we want logistically good meal one minute away and you eat and come back it needs to be quick for us the problem Is then I say I I'm not doing it so our contract says because we Face a lot of such issues um ke we have it at the

guest bouet but if some planner gives us a good solution we accept it so meal is something that needs to be worked down from point zero how how to work it out okay in terms of equipments uh you should have basic knowledge of equipments um C light you don't want photographs Flor clients also don't like it so U it's good to ask what cameras They're using it's good to ask uh you know if they are updated with the best cameras uh if not the best at least good good range cameras um the lighting that they

use are not very har see because big lights are used and everything so you should have basic knowledge um you know on Lighting on on more than lighting what equipments they're using um what are the names of the cameras I think once you deep dive In that's when you know what's a good cinema camera what's a good photography camera a lot of us use Sony I'm a Sony brand so I'll always say Sony but K and are also great but mod which are very recommended for weddings so you should know these things um beforeand just

to know if the photographer just Ching the best guest um honestly uh like my school of thought is gu responsible that's a better thing than the best you know so uh Because inv so so if I have to rank the G I would rank it number four or number five for me number one is like how professional they are that is the most more than more even better than the work but how professional they are it should be like the most important thing you know you don't want that you need to be aware of all

these things and uh well uh uh if BTS again as I Mention BTS so it's always good to have BTS um uh you can get your talk have become friends with your photographer uh get your own BTS done it's very good to have that the planners BTS share with them it's a good it's good to have a good relationship with the planners and um yeah now before you open the question round uh I will quickly like to you know show my contract how I share I so I share two things with the client and the

planners one is a contract one is my Quotation and one is a proper lighting sop because I want the lighting to be perfect and these are things that even you should know okay okay so I'll stop the screen share and I'll start a new screen share just hold on so first I'll open a a real contract which is going to a client uh uh okay uh can you guys see this page you give me a thumbs up yes okay perfect okay so this is how my contract looks like uh obviously my contract First starts with

our philosophy with our intro that how we work you know basic philosophy about what we've been doing what kind of awards we've won this is the presentation that we have first before sharing whever we featur so the client should know that you know they're talking to a serious guy you know it's not just about uh you know uh just another photographer where all we've been featured we've been featured amongst the best photographers blah blah Client recommendations um what clients are there what we've shot and what were their feedback what all services we offer um you

know if you so this is one of the things that we offer we make original songs we make covers for all our clients uh We've shared a YouTube link as well over here so like we collaborated with celebrity um artists before like Justin Royal and all to create so the client should know this This is our usual process we make the couple fill in a questionnaire to understand the tast Style again we have our own way of shooting but it's good to know as I mentioned we ask for the family tree what's the family tree

looks like what's the overall style now based on the uh you know based on the question we create an internal mod board with the team that income you know this is what they like this is how we'll shoot you know this is what they like you know so And then we sent Ross the lighting specifications to the planners and the couple we'll share I'll share that with you as well and then we always say have a blast have a great time we shoot that don't need to worry about anything else and then all we why

we mention our inhouse editing team because to make sure that we control every deliverable no nothing is outsourced and shut down we train our team we do everything and then we do it ourselves and it's always Good to know uh this thing that if the photographer you're hiring is in-house or like does he have inhouse team or does he have lot of Freelancers it's okay to have Freelancers there's no problem but it's always good to have editing in-house team I feel editing inhouse team is very very important because um a good editing Inn team will

have more control on the deliverable freelanc it's always good to have an inhouse editing team um so and and I Would always recommend photographer just to set um obviously we share a glimpse of our shooting style and SK this um yeah coming to the quotation we mentioned everything I mentioned the real prices over here um so this is how we work so we mention if I'm coming or not so like my price is mentioned here L that's my name and I mentioned this is my per day charge and on 9th March say I'm not available

I say 9th March Available sometimes we always have quotes without me completely so we always share that we what we do we bate every photographer charge every cinematographer charge so that if one then we can always reduce then you know reshare the quotation with them um these are the add-on services that we have just charges add and uh you know overall we send a quotation like this every single Char thing is customized okay okay now uh these are deliverables We've combined we these are all the deliverables mentioned properly that these are the deliverables uh that

we'll be offering a wedding trailer of deal these are the timings Tim are so important 12 days I'm writing all the it's very important for the be very clear about so the client is also aware a client is always usually deliverable 90 days you know the combined full film event but we still write 120 days because February Weddings or 12 because back so it's always good to have the real timelines over here what is included what is not included Al is not included we've not charged them for the album over here if you notice like

albums are zero over here uh so we've not we've not uh you know charge them for that and albums are not included payment schedule is very clear we charge 50% in advance one week before and we don't block the dates sometimes clients Say my block Advance uh usually as a planner also uh you should not block the date yes keep it soft blocked in your mind real client but don't stop taking inquiries till time you receive advance or at least something we do it with 50% advance and these are my terms and conditions uh so

always these terms and conditions are ever evolving but um for example I've made it clear That old school C say I feel very weird and awkward I've mentioned it on my contract yeah if people are e think I'm not taking their photos it's very weird Okay um so sometimes what happens that a wedding happens after we will charge extra for that because it's a new day it's a new thing it's mentioned in the contract these are clear terms which you should also discuss with the Photographer will that be short or not so if that is

in case we not informed it's mentioned the contract um we uh you know we we don't provide hard drives we provide pen drives and everything because we don't share the complete we share raw dat uh in case of date change we mentioned that as well about food uh you know that we mention it clearly that this is the contract that we have for um uh you know In terms of food but if the planner comes up with a solution which is fine with us we go ahead with that separ se but we mention every single

know GST it's to the detail that you know uh no matter what the client will not have a problem a destination May mentioned destination within India or destination weding within 300 kilometers otherwise we take a flight if it's beyond 300 kilometers so U so all of this is Mentioned and all of it you should also know it uh for example this sometimes clients so something we are flexible a client says we don't want to post anything on social media we like cool but we do mention that know for social media and everything uh um we

require a PPD sometimes the clients don't share it and then afterwards they say low C some people don't put effort Before the wedding and then expect magic after the wedding it's very important for the client also to put that effort all right so for that we want them to work on always I ask for more so I get something you know that's my rule ask for a PP PDF let them share few photos we'll make our own PPD PDF uh some things we've just mentioned to make sure the client is aware because otherwise we taking

for right we've never charged This amount you know we've just written it so uh we've never charged any waiting charges to any client ever in life but the client should respect time the plan should respect time of the photographer you know the team will reach on time they'll sit they'll mentally they'll be drained when the start they'll already be drained so give a half an hour 40 minutes buffer but don't give them a three hour buffer um some people think family Interviews they don't give time it is very important to communicate back to back these

things are communicated are important to be communicated beforehand before we get our client on okay so I'll end the screen share uh okay uh this is also very important luckily with us we've never faced that issue in Life Touch would uh but in case you lose data what is the What is the remedy you know if the photographer Loses you should have the contract at least you know you know this Clause should be there what should be the you know what should be what can be done in that case all right so this is something

that uh you know uh should be mentioned in the contract okay um yeah so that's in terms of uh a contract how we do it I'll quickly come to um uh a lighting document this we share With every planner we expect them to uh you know uh wait wait wait sorry there to follow it okay let me share this okay uh on shoot lighting document presented by shown um we we mentioned what our requirements are like we need a table and a plug point at every event uh so that we can keep our stuff charge

we need a riser for performance you know if you have a big Decor you have a big space please give a riser the Photographer will love you P system I'll tell you why this is required the third thing P system is ex input basically perform performances and when we are making the video we have a separate song for performances this is the you know for s i mentioning it because again as a photographer in my early days I have burnt my hands performance was really pissed so I'm very open about things when the clients Were

pissed with me at times and I'm sharing my experiences one of them was performances and it's there in the back of my mind performances need to be taken really seriously Guys umot Hot Spot means imagine the in one of the weddings I sh Bri full because stage Point light so the light should be well spread and uh movement space should be given we've Also share uh you know a picture of what should be there in terms of lighting and how parans or LED should be spread out very evenly across the stage so that the performance

look really nice even for the M we mentioned all four corners they should be light from top so that inside the V if you have a if you have a solution like that otherwise the te stand outside um for M during day also we mentioned these are all our pictures uh Uh you know top and everything um so this is something that we shared in general um with the client uh lighting and also like small things have petals at every event petals make it so much fun so uh so you know these are small things

that we shared with the planners and the client so that you know they are aware of how to enhance the photography so that's my time guys I'll open the you know the questions Now uh so after the Q&A uh if you are done with your question all you can leave LXI you'll have to just wait for five minutes more once everybody okay done done done yeah so do we have questions here yeah so yes yeah yeah you said you need to have lights outside inside the Mand as well as the face lights also but you

said while capturing the face lights stands and all do come in the photography so How can we avoid that okay so basically uh see B basically there are two sets of lights but if you don't have that solution there something called stands which go if I'm shooting okay now the light is low my shadow will come on the bride okay but if the te stand is really high like 20t high like you need to make sure shadows two side diag 20 six LEDs this this like M up you'll have a great shoot good and for

the morning faras how do we play around with the lightings then you don't need any external light for Morning Show the sun is enough what you need to do is make sure make sure like the last picture I sh diff but for the morning Mand also you need to have lights inside the Mand no you don't need any light you just need a Top you need you need if you're having any covering just make sure it's not any color that's it yeah okay sir so I had a question okay you said you reserve the rights

to post like uh 30 or 40 pictures or something so do you take the consent of the couple like suppose they don't 113 100% 100% nothing goes without the consent so we take see honestly even if the client see this is we communicate it 90% times Don't have a problem but if they don't want to post we don't post anything it's the client's photos it's the client's property we are shooting their personal moments we don't right have any right to post anything without their consent uh uh we request them if they they say don't they

don't post anything we never post anything and every photog should follow this because it's their photos you know it's not a fashion shoot that we are shooting that we so uh we say we Have the copyright but we never posted anything without their content okay and uh one more thing like uh do you provide the raw video files and everything like apart from making the videos like 45 minut there are raw video clips that are shoot so do you say yes yeah so if I did mention the contract that if they give us a 4tb

hard drive we put it everything in there but at the same time it's very important to educate the the client that see when we shoot we're shooting clips Now the way of shooting is Cinematic right so I'll go and take a short 10sec shot here a 10-sec shot there some of the shots might have junk a junk foot recording on reg so when the raw data goes it's clip wise okay they are like 500 either 30 second clip or a 10 minute clip or a 5sec clip maybe 800 now when the client gets the data

they'll have individual files now they can't do anything about it so we tell them this Before sharing the data okay and one more thing you mentioned about some ballpark or something I am not sure what that is so ballpark means basically um for example you a client says that I want to hire shutter down okay you're like okay let me call shut down now shut down might take like a day to uh you know get back to you with the code so you can always say that since you don't know my price be like L

what is your ballpark figure I'll say roughly mot Mot Lak you know so so that's a ballpark range now the client budget is five lakhs what's the point of getting a quotation you know so so that is called a ballpark figure again if you don't want to wait for a full quotation you can take a ball paath like what is the usual range the photographer will give you a rough ball paath and then you can state of eliminate if there's a if there a small difference the client has a budget of 8 Lakhs and the

ballpark says 12 onwards you you can still take the quotation but if there's huge difference like three lakhs versus 15 lakhs then there's no point even taking the quotation okay yeah thank you sir yeah yeah you're welcome uh sir I have a question yeah in the starting of the session you said that whenever you want to whenever we want to select or decide a photographer you should go to a event and then you know see the photographer And I just want to ask that what we EX need to see because the photographer is just running

around him no no no so no no I already seen there yeah so I I I'll tell you so I meant that if for example if at a so I'm not saying go to an event and see the photographer I'm saying that if if you've your personal experience of working with them for example in a wedding where you doing high level planning only not a very detailed planning and the client has hired a Photographer you see in the full wding how the photog per Performing after the liables do call the client and check with the

client that how was the experience with this photographer to get a reference check on how on shoot they were there were two aspects there three aspects actually pre-shoot on shoot and post shoot pre-shoot means ke before the shooting how they responded to all client's inquiries during the shoot how are they and post shoot how was the Performance and deliverables on these three parameters you should highly judge a photographer so that can only happen once you've actually worked with the photograph grapher or you've taken a reference from someone but even when you take a reference take

reference from these three parameters at least if not pre-shoot dur I have worked with the photographer but he was a interior the people who actually shoot The properties he was particularly like specialized in that so I was exactly thinking that next time if I need to get a shoot done what exactly I need to see because I won't be hiring him again but that's what I wanted to see that he was okay in everything but I did not like the pictures the deliverables exactly yeah so clearly you you should not have him in your panel

uh what you should do basically is uh since if you're new in the industry and if you You don't have exposure to many photographers um start um you know first make your own list of photographers that you like you know using Instagram or something then um try uh you know if you have a group or something which you are part of you can always mention the name that hey guys do you have any uh do you have any would you recommend this photographer you know to me and then the other planners will actually help you

out in understanding here this Photographer screwed up this bride or this pH great to work with they easy to work with so have your own list and take reference for example you made a list of 10 of your favorite photographers okay of different budgets budgets you can easily check you can just ping a photographer and check their budget so make an Excel sheet you know based on budgets budget Excel sheet B uh you can uh you know take the references from someone some at least three references Per photographer you know or maybe two yeah how

was it to work with and were the deliverables on time okay so you don't want a photographer to be a pain in your ass and at the same time you don't want a photographer pain in the client's ass then is good but reference reference yeah thank you so much yeah you're welcome um sir yes so um I have a question suppose uh uh we are doing a s suppose so as a videographer U which or What lights you would prefer as a camera person like if you if you sorry sorry sorry to cut you you

have a multicolor um lights suppose green red or you know there are so many so which uh light okay so uh I I did share a picture remember when the trust was there okay you understand trust right so if the truss is there so truss has something called a face light okay inside so that led which is what you're saying multicolored LED that can be converted into a warm white LED also okay so ideally the best way of doing this is they have two layers of LEDs warm and the performances so warm white Amber so

they are three colors basically white Warm White Amber all three colors work well White balone so the trust should have face light face light is warm LED spread even across but Warmed can have those warm LEDs on top it's coming straight on the clim and warm LEDs yeah uh we have that uh light stand whenever we take any photos or what that stand calls a face light stand I guess that's so so basically there's something called a tea stand if you don't have a big production if you have a smaller space man you know it's

a small bank and you don't have a then something Called Stand it's like in a form of a te make sure height at least 15 give the photographer as high as possible and as even as possible suppose if we are having a uh performance or whatever in a banquet which is uh very small 12 by something something so um what lenses or which camera person you will suggest candid or a videographer okay so when you are in a Very tight space now that three kind of lenses okay one is um so OB you don't need

to get into that detail let the photographer decide but just to just for your information let's see type of lenses one is a wide lens l so there something called M okay each L remember those big white colored lenses because that's a 200 mm the for a white space we need a 24 mm or a 16 mm lens so that's called a wi wide lens wide remember the two words wide lens And a tel photo lens so you have to go for a wide lens so basically three basic lens geners are a wide lens a

mid lens and a telephoto lens a wide lens is basically a 16 mm to a 35 mm a mid lens is basically a 35 mm to a 50 mm and a telephoto lens is basically 85 mm Beyond till 400 MM weding 400 till 200 mm so basic the range is between 16 mm to 200 mm that's the range okay no but I had a question which team would you suggest like Photographer a candid team or a traditional would be necessary or not uh I then see the thing is that um uh you don't really need

a so everybody comes with a team of mix always have a team which has a mix of both which has photographers who are doing candles traditional and see again everything is based on deliverable that you're giving okay so so your deliverables if the deliverables have a traditional video which is then you need a traditional Videographer but irrespective in see again you should first of all get away with the concept of traditional and candid it is photography okay photography has two parts of taking moments and capturing portraits now there is no candid and traditional in that

okay so let's create a new mindset of having storytelling and portrait show so every team should have both the things with them there's no team which does only one that's not a good team to Work with team set to Capture Moments and to capture portraits portraits as a photographer I use my own set of light because okay yeah you're welcome I have a question one more yeah yes nowadays we see these videos and photos where there is a beige what do you say V color photos you see they're like very vibrant they're whsh how do

I put it across so if you compare the like maybe you have to show Me you have to show me an example 10 15 years back the photography was more of a darker shade and now phot photographies and the videos which we see are more of a whitish tinch so is there any such software which I need to explain to the photographer about it he I need this this type of Photography or how how do I put it across uh um it's very uh I'm not understood your uh question properly but idea is it's called

color grading okay To get the perfect colors you need to have color grading done properly um the team basically needs to color grade the videos and photos properly uh I'm not able to exp and you know the lighting should be soft but I'm not able to explain you how put it across properly yeah this one is this because again you know I didn't understand your question fully and basically okay and also on also for to get the result The Outfits Also should be very it's called muted tone photography muted tones outfit where you know the

outfits are very muted the decor is very muted then you get those tones accordingly you know so BL like Elegance I'm talking about which is coming from the photography as well as from the videography yes yes so there something called color grading there's no specific software use for that it's just how it's sh um but yeah you can always tell the Photographer that this is the kind of vibe check I'm the colors that I'm looking at and can you show me some work that you've done in these colors like with these colors or you know

with this kind of color tone or with a color color grading is the right word color grading okay yes are you asking in the terms of the cabs photos or adti hyri photos oruh so she's basically trying to ask questions like when you see the syps photo if you have Just recently seen Aditi Hy's photo okay so her photo is like when you see the photo it is very calm you it is very attractive it doesn't have too much vibrant colors and all you know you know how this happens number one she's wearing all white

okay so it also depends on what colors that's what I started with right if you was wearing a color that photo was not possible it's it's the time of the day it is an early so you know first thing I Mentioned for photographer needs the photographer needs good light and good light the best s is sun and then this wedding is happening at the so you know aming so that was an early morning South Indian wedding Sun 6 a.m. beautiful light you know so automatically so you know if everything is planned accordingly but obviously Joe

did a fantastic job with color grading so that thing is called color grading you know You know edit color grade the accordingly to result to reach that desired result thank you yeah but again it also depends on what the client is wearing and uh you know and uh and how the overall Decor is done you know if everything is not in syn it's how everything is stylized and that's why I always recommend to have a good Decor person good stylist to style the bride or if the bride uh you know Styles herself very well that's

great but all starts from what's happening around you know it's not only the photography had the colors been very different the output would have been very different thank you yeah I have a question yeah huh so I was asking actually I had worked recently so I just wanted to ask so how uh do a planner Manage it's in the perspective of a wedding planner and a photographer team so how do they manage to see now you do a wedding which has only one photography team okay photo video team but there are the small scale wedding

or a midsize wedding where bride want someone else and groom want someone else okay so don't I'll tell you best solution I'll tell you best solution don't do it no so we have it is chaos it is utter chaos to have two teams see we don't do It we say no having a photo team video team seate is fine but having two teams is a pain like you know it is crazy I I I don't do this anymore now and it's like goes against my peace of mind so I stop doing it but I would

highly recommend see from your side you should educate the client he you should you know you should make some videos of Kos happening in such weddings okay and then show it to your client recently I have so now I have a Sample to show everyone okay when a bridegroom is entering you can only see the video photo team of both the obiously and and you for example I like to when the bride is entering I like to give her space you know I like my team to be away from her so that when she's coming

my drone gets that perfect shot all angers get those perfect shots and you know if there are seven members shooting all seven get the perfect shot but what if the other team Has the philosophy I will just get photographers in my frame then there'll be seven of my members and seven of his members and 15 people around the bride the bride's experience of walking on the aisle and looking at the groom and smiling goes away ah true one more question uh so I want to ask with again a perspective of a wedding planning wedding plan

so uh see many times uh the client have their preference for a team photo video which Photographer they want but if not uh so the planner is new for you but the family you are aware of okay so how is a planner in between the client and the photographer can you sorry can you repeat again I can you repeat this again okay so I'm asking how a wedding planner is a mediator between a client and a photographer if there new and the photographer is also new for each other so how is the client the photog

Deals they okay so basically you're Saying you're saying so basically you're saying that there's a family of shot before so for example you and me are working together and the family has shot with me before and they've hired me again but they've changed the plan and got you on board yes yes and so what should be the communication see the best way of doing this is uh because they've hired the photographer again that means they had the full trust Factor you can actually check every photographer has a Different way of working so you can actually

check with the photographer what what what what worked with them for last time what were the contracts last time and then are we repeating the same contracts in tag terms uh for example if F food State travel that should be one thing uh how it was done before I it should be done in the same way so that the photographer also feels that he is getting that independence of working with the client and you're also step Free you know during the event for example sharing the deliverables if I shared with the deliverables last time with

the client directly I this time also I should share with them directly okay okay as a as a planner I think what you should do is ensure the logistics are sorted in in terms of how uh you know how it happened last time it should happen the same way or if there's a reason why they've changed the planner they should understand why this was Changed I right so idly uh you know it happens a lot of times they changeed the planner but everything Remains the Same the only thing you should see why the planner was

CH what was what is the budget issue that the planner became expensive that means everything was done perfectly in the last wedding or was there any issue on any side where you know uh the thing was but iding if the photographer is being repeated by the client that means the Cent is really Happy with the photographer so as so rather work other way around anything that you know so let them work within themselves be free don't need to get involv too much uh just need to ensure the it is on time you you communicate the

at planner you need to sure the it is communicated properly if the team is there before on time they they will a professional team will always be professional you know let them be free give them their Itenary tell them tell them the plan before as a planner itary is very important uh the logistics is very important cabs and all are all sorted and also the event flow these three things just inform them educate you have some Suggs possibility but that's about it nothing else let let it I think that should be the thing with every

photographer Let It Be fluid and but educate communicate every single detail Of the event with them and let them be on their own okay so unless they're creating a h okay uh so in the pre wedding and all there's no CL uh wedding planner invol it's only client and a so it's a how you can I'll tell you how a planner can get involved number one booking of properties if they booked a property for example the client says I want F girl for my pre reading you handle the logistics uh the client wants to book

my flights and everything and Then you know those Logistics the pickup from the airport the drop to the airport the meals in between those are the things that need to be taken over okay those are the things which is considered okay but very very very basic it can be done with without a planner's involvement also but a little bit of involvement always helps okay okay thank you yeah yeah you're welcome uh do we have any other questions so I have one question Regarding the usage of a drone in an event so it's like the client

who decid you want they want uh Drone footage or as for the event brief you decide that is one that is number one question and the second one is do we need any license or permission um to okay and the third question how do you manage event um like drone in international how do you manage what drones in International Event because as For my knowledge I don't much knowledge about it but I uh have just read that there are certain um uh Indian Customs rules I don't know how how do you transfer yes yes okay

okay okay okay okay uh good questions okay drone is a very big pain Point uh so the first thing is that um uh in terms of um when we recommend we recommend for every single event okay uh whether Delhi outside Delhi permissioned I will recommend at every Single event possible okay number one number two uh where I don't uh recommend drone if it's very low space Indo 10t height you need a you need a 15 to 16 fet clear height for a safe drone flying zone so height 15 16 it's not safe to fly drone

there so that is one um IND but the only problem with drone flying indoor is that properties don't get permission so that is something you need to tell the client beforehand Um but yeah every event drone if possible so drone gives that like you know bir eye view people you know because there are 500 people waiting how do I show 500 people together only a drone can show that you know you know a lot of times clients say so Dr is highly recommended but again uh it's better not to have the Drone okay next thing

um every destination is a Must for sure internationally some some uh countries don't allow drone UAE does not allow drone so it's better not to includeed drone includeed drone Uh u u so you can hire drone fire from the B but those guys are really expensive like you'll end up paying like two and a half three laks just for drone for a basic coverage so um so yeah so UA andity complicated in some countries is like CH for example uh yes uh Customs May if your drone is caught while coming back so that's a photographers

headache drone it's quite a problem so obviously it's the photographer liability on that photograph drone you don't take any responsibility on that but yeah on on property if you have any disclaimer forms to be filled or anything every property has a different Norms you need to ask the property what are the Drone norms and if there's any kind of police permission say and all that you need to arrange beforeand it's good to start making that prep a month before so the last moment and specifically before getting the drone on board you need to tell uh

you need to check if the Drone is even allowed or not thank you so much uh is it is it responsibility to take the permission to seek the permission or the photograph yes yes yes yes it is the planner's Responsibility because they are arranging everything in that location they based in that they they're basically managing the see a a photographer responsibility is to give you drone shots but managing permission is I not a photographers responsibility thank you so much you're welcome okay so any other questions do we have okay perfect so uh so we call

it a session Now in that case yes okay perfect okay great thank you so much thank you thank you so much thank you so much l sir yeah thank you so much thank you