How to Heal Leaky Gut and Alkalize Your Body Naturally with Dr. Daryl Gioffre

It's incredible how deficient we become in minerals and one of the biggest reasons why is what's happening to our soil they've done a study on spinach showing that you have to consume 65 Servants of spinach to get the same mineral content especially iron that you got back in 1948 with one servant Dr darl J for joining us wrote this book called get off your sugar the gut is critical with over two decades of Experience Dr Daryl Joffrey is a highly sought after gut health and inflammation specialist I think we' become more deficient than we ever

been in human history we have what we call a sick care system we make a 5% of the world's population we spend over 50% of the world's money on Medical Care yet we rank 72nd in World Health the gut is critical all these Downstream issues that people have whether that's brain fog anxiety depression we got to go back To the gut and make sure the gut's okay and most people it's not okay my dad's doctor got it wrong it wasn't about too much acid it was about human hey guys welcome back to the ultimate human

podcast I'm your host ultimate human human biologist Gary Brea where we go down the road of everything anti-aging longevity biohacking and everything in between I've just introduced this guest to you but I just Wanted to say how excited I am to have him on the podcast um he is actually a resident in Naples and I I started my clinic Ironically in Naples and we had the serendipitous Crossing of path I've been using his product uh which is called alch mind um for quite a while to to get the acidity out of my coffee and um

get some MCT oils and other things into my coffee in the morning and and then one day I I heard about his personal journey and as you know I think The greatest inventions and impacts on Humanity come from people that have solved the problem in their life and usually their pain has led to their purpose and he is no different um he went through an incredible Health Journey both himself and his father and as he solved this complex puzzle of what was wrong and we're going to talk about it today on the podcast you know

he gave birth to an incredible brand um that is focused on getting the acid level out of Your life and controlling acid and eating an alkaline diet and becoming more alkaline to put yourself in a healthy State as you know I think the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease and so does he um so welcome to the podcast Dr darl G Freeman thank you so it is a pleasure to have you on man yeah what a blessing great to see you and and and you know like I said I I I feel like

some of the greatest impacts on Humanity from a health and wellness Longevity anti-aging standpoint biohacking standpoint whatever you want to say you call it you know the the the impacts on on big nutritional revolutions they come from people that have solved a problem in their life um and I've had some of the most inspiring guests on and they identify with my audience because they've been in a place in their life where it was hopeless modern medicine couldn't solve the problem for them um some of them were Physicians some were phds some were MDS and some

were soccer moms and and they just realized that I had to become my own citizen scientist I had to take matters into my own hands and they solved the problem and that ripple effect now is impacting tens of thousands hundreds of thousands potentially even millions of lives and I think that your story is very similar so welcome to the podcast and um you know um I I'd love for you to talk about your Journey and you know what you're focused on right now in your practice um and with your patients I know you're known as

the celebrity nutritionist um but um you know I'd love to hear about your journey and what gave rise to alind and and your focus on an alkaline diet sure um my practice was in New York City for 25 years which I'm sorry to hear that exactly I I escaped from New York no I I I love it I love still family up in Connecticut but um yeah uh I I was the Shoe maker with no shoes you know when you're in your early 20s you can get away with a hardcore sugar addiction which I had

you know I've coached a lot of people through sugar and it's uh it's amazing because uh the amount of sugar that I was intaking was just insane and you get away with this when you're in your 20s but as I started getting you know later into my 20s what happened was my waistline started growing I actually was I think sugar addiction is way worse Than people think it is oh it's it's sugar is a substance it's it's not a food I mean it's a drug it's become America's drug of choice I mean the average American

consuming 130 pounds of this white stuff every single year wow that equates to 38 teaspoons a day the problem with that is after six teaspoons the liver can't metabolize it literally stores as fat and becomes just this massive toxin that dries off inflammation and we know where that goes To um so I started gaining weight I was 50 lounds heavier than I am you know today and uh I was leaning down to adjust one of my patients and literally my pants split right down the backside because true story true story I refuse yeah I refused

to buy bigger clothes you know I was I was one of those people the old fashioned plumbers crack exactly exactly so that was kind of one of those moments where I said all right you know you got to you got to change something And I literally drew a line in the sand you know burn the boats that day and I decided I had to make a drastic change in my life style and it was interesting cuz a week later I heard about this thing called the alkaline diet and uh you ever hear something and sudden

it's like the Magnus flip and you're like whoa this there's something about this I got to learn more yeah and you know sugar is the most or one of the most acidic substances you can put into the Body and uh as I started to learn more I basically said all right I'm going to stop with the deprivation approach before that you know for years I would stop sugar for two weeks two months you know six months and again it's such a powerful drug you come back to it now for many people they can quit sugar

by that deprivation approach but um it didn't work for me as most of my clients it doesn't work for yeah yeah most of my clients doesn't work good yeah so I just Started to add things into my life that were going to strengthen my body alkalize my body and I started with a green juice and uh that was it you know I started with a green juice every single morning and when I first had my first green juice it literally tasted like swamp water it was disgusting and I realized about two weeks later that it

wasn't the green juice that tasted nasty it was my taste buds that were so used to Sugar that was causing that desens Sitation so as I started drinking more and more green juice within about two weeks my Cravings were less and within 21 days the Cravings were gone so I started adding on to that I started eating more salads I started bouncing on a rebounder I started lymphatic drainage doing more things to oxygenate my cells and literally chlorophyll is one of the most powerful ways to cleanse and purify your blood it's very close to hemoglobin

as well it's identical it's identical Except for the center atom so I do live blood cell analysis as well and it's amazing because you can look at your uh your red blood cells on that high-powered uh microscope and dark field dark field exactly yep and phase contrast so um I would be testing my blood as well and seeing what the chlorophyll did and it was amazing because when I was really like jacked up on sugar all my cells were like stuck together what I call blood sludge and Guys I talk about this all the time

can I get can I get a round of a pause please yes there you go and the problem with that is that you can't get the oxygen to your tissues you know and now it creates this Downstream issue um but as I started putting in this green juice and the chlorophyll all right because it's identical to your hemoglobin molecule except for the center atom where chlorophyll obviously is your magnesium your hemoglobin is your iron So again people out there that want to help build iron just drink more greens and as I started drinking more and

more greens the red blood cells started to separate my body started to actually feel better and as a byproduct of that I literally lost about 42 pounds in three and a half months it was incredible and um that was really kind of like the introduction to uh the whole alkaline world and what I learned was is that it's not about like trying to increase The alkaline of the body like so many people get it wrong out there right the whole purpose of alkalizing your body is to take the stress off your own body's buffering system

so it doesn't have to do the work on its own it's kind of like your your temperature if I'm in New York City and it's freezing cold out I'm wearing a t-shirt I go outside what happens is your body has to rob Peter to pay Paul your body has to basically use its resources to keep you alive so it's Going to take all of your blood from your fingers from your toes bring it to your organs while so you don't die it's got to keep that temperature at 98.6 it works like a thermostat well the

pH of your blood is exactly the same it's tightly regulated between 7.35 and 7.45 but ideally a 7.4 so again the reason why we put things into our body that alkalize like leafy greens and things like that is to take stress off your body's buffering system Like your kidneys like your adrenal glands like your blood proteins and the minerals in your bones your muscles in your mouth so that your body doesn't have to do the regulating on its own you know it's interesting I talk a lot about um the fallacy behind drinking alkaline water can

make the blood alkaline um we know that that's it was a great marketing myth um and it worked to sell a lot of alkaline water so talk to me about if if alkaline water doesn't Change the pH of the body then how do certain diets provably and measurably actually change the pH of the blood because I also am a firb believer that being slightly into the call it the alkaline range for human um beings is is entering in disease free state when we were in the mortality space um and we looked at blood pH you

know acidic blood phes would accelerate nearly every form of disease and pathology and alkaline States would actually um do the opposite And so um I'm a little fuzzy on the research and the mechanisms for um you know diet specifically relating to shifts and pH in the blood so so talk a little bit about that it's all about mineral I mean minerals are the critical uh most important thing for the body right now and it's incredible how deficient we become in minerals you know and one of the biggest reasons why is what's happening to our soil

I mean they've done a study on spinach and this One study was back in 2015 showing that you have to consume 65 servings of spinach to get the same mineral content especially iron that you got back in 1948 with one serving now in you know our present time that's going up to 75 so even when we try to be healthy even try to get those minerals it becomes really really hard so that's why supplementation of minerals especially magnesium becomes critical and the whole purpose of putting minerals into the Body um is because they neutralize acidity

so when there is acid when there's toxins when there's inflammation being created by those acids we need minerals to go in there and basically mop up the scene but the problem is if we're not getting them from our diet the body's got to get them somehow right because again the pH of the blood is always constant so what happens is the body as I said before it robs Peter the Paya the body will take calcium from Your bones bring that into the blood why to neutralize the acid takes magnesium from the bones the muscles takes

bicarbon from the mouth your body is so innately intelligent it'll let your body and bones fall apart to keep your pH tightly regulated and stable because if that pH dips down by more than one point we die right and your body says no way we're not going to let that happen so the most important thing we can do is adopt what I call a strength eating diet Where you're eating lots of leafy greens healthy plant-based keto fats moderate amounts of proteins fiber slow burning carbs so you're getting all those four macros into your body and

when you do that your body's going to have the necessary nutrients it needs to deal with whatever it is I always say your body is alkaline by Design but it's acidic by function like we breathe in oxygen the waste product is carbon dioxide gas right we go for an exercise The body makes lactic acid so the body has these like buffers that it could deal with just the regular acidity that we create from normal day life but the problem is is that the average American is dumping in so much acid into their body from the

standard American diet which we call the sad diet or what I call the crap diet right we're full of crap completely refined and processed all right oh I love that I'm going to adopt that now there you're going to see That start appearing on podcast the crap diet completely refined in process I mean we're we're we have a crap diet we're full of crap the average American has 5 to 15 PBS of impacted fecal matter in their gut and it's creating all this Auto intoxicity we're literally choking on our own fumes so we have to

get more minerals especially the Magnesium because what it's going to do over a thousand different things as we all know but in terms of what it does for our gut Function uh for people dealing with acid reflux for our blood pH it is critical so again leafy greens but I like to go above that one step further we want to drink our greens Green Juice green smoothies green soups that's the core of what I call a strength eating diet and so what's um so talking about a a good morning routine for um I mean there

are lots of great Brands out there athletic greens um you know some of these uh superfood Blends um so are you Suggesting that people add this you know one of the things I I I tell people to add every day to their morning routine is a half a teaspoon of um something called Baja gold sea salt which or or or even Celtic Sea salt um I I I I was reading some research on on pink himalay and sea salt and I and I about the you know the amount of heavy metals and then I actually

did a test and I actually crushed some of this pink Himalayan sea salt and was able to pass a magnet over The the The Cutting Board and even see some of the flaking of of the metals coming out of the pink kimay and sea salt so I really push people to you know Celtic salts and and and and mineral salts like Baja gold and and to just remineralize the body first thing in in the morning you know I I like you believe that the majority of us are becoming diseased and pathological because of deficiencies in

certain nutrients in the human body and and many Of them are the ones you don't hear about the the unfund co-actors like malum and selenium and manganese and Boron and all of these you know minerals that nobody's even heard of everybody knows about B vitamins and you know B12 and uh folate but uh it's those minerals so talk about a um uh you know for for the listeners like what in your opinion is the you know best morning routine and when you say greens what greens are you talking about what's the best way to get

Them sure and I love what you said about uh you know deficiency I mean I think we've be become more deficient than we ever been in human history you know if you look at the cause of all disease which is excuse me lack of balance lack of Harmony in the body it's deficiency and toxicity I always like to use the analogy if you see a plant start to wel what's the first thing that comes to your mind water right why not drugs or surgery right that's that's that's That's where most of these maybe I'll do

that maybe I will start dissecting stem and see if we but that's where all popsicle stick on there yeah right but that's where all these alpath doctors are going to and listen there's there is a time and place for crisis care we have the best Crisis Care system in the world but we do not have a health care System we have what we call a sick care system I mean we make a 5% of the world's population we spend over 50% of the World's money on Medical Care again which we call sick care yet we

rank 72nd in World Health I can't even name 71 countries ahead of us right so if we go back to the plant we need to give that plant the things that it needs to be strong to live to be vital give it water give it nutrients give it sunlight but there's a problem that plant is still wilting it's still dying why what's going on we're giving everything that it needs to be strong well perhaps we Missed that gas station next door leaking gasoline into the root system of that plant that's making that plant toxic now

maybe we prolonged the plant's life because we gave it the things it needed that it was deficient in but again it was still toxic so the problem with this day and age is that we are more toxic than we've ever been in human history and I truly believe that addressing the toxicity in the body is more important than the nutrients but we Need we need both so if you give the plant all the things that it needs and then you take out the things that's not serving that plant's higher purpose then if it's not too

far gone that plant will heal itself because we're all designed to heal ourselves I mean God heals us right that's the inate intelligence of the body the power made the body is the power that heals the body but we still need to give those B the body the things that it needs to to strengthen it from The inside out so when I wake up the very first first thing I do is I Hydrate with water but water's neutral right now you can throw in some you know some of the things that you mention yeah bah

gold um you know and whatever you know salt you choose to use but I like to make my water what I call acid kicking so we have an amazing green powder with alkalines it's got 21 of your most alkalizing greens and I'll take a scoop of that I'll put that in mix it up less Than 30 seconds you're getting five servings of organic greens but why is that so powerful because it's literally bypassing the gut it's getting right into that blood where it's going to alkalize it's going to energize it's going to detoxify you and

it's not like the sugar where you kind of get that like jolt and all of a sudden you come down deep with a crash no this is going to sustain you because chlorophyll is the core of what's in that green juice And it's those minerals right the Magnesium the potassium and all the other minerals that you're getting and those trace minerals that is actually going to give the body the juice the no pun intended the strength that it needs so I wake up that's the first thing I want to do you got to hydrate because

the body is most acidic in the middle of the night I mean the body is most acidic between 1: and 3:00 a.m. in the morning it about 5 a.m so when you wake up like You have to alkalize your body you got to hydrate and I always say the solution to pollution is dilution you got to get that water in but kick its acid with something that's going to be a little bit more powerful that could be a little sea salt a mineral powder or a greens powder and that's how I that's how I start

my day that's great um you know there's there's um you know some threads of of of wisdom out there that say that um vegetables are killing us I I Actually don't subscribe to that I know that we have um you know oxalates and we have oxy IIA um in in in in the gut I also think that the body is extremely good at minor amounts of um you know hormetic stress and so just about everything creates minor amounts of hormetic stress exercise creates small amounts of hormetic stress um every time we eat there is some

hormetic stress on the body um and so talk a little bit about um why um you feel that you know Green vegetable sources um are some of the best ways um to make the body alkaline and what about the toxic chemicals quote unquote in in vegetables like oxalates and things like that that are commonly attacked as being stressors or pro-inflammatory in in the body or blocking the absorption of of other nutrients again I I I don't particularly subscribe to that theory myself but um but I know a lot of my listeners um have Been down

the road of different kind of dietary gurus and I and I hear you know getting trashed uh a lot um in in the in the public domain you know because of these these stressors it it's a great point and we hear it all the time and I mean anything in life you can find something good to support your cause or something against your cause right um but I wrote a whole page in the book about the whole thing on oxalates you know don't eat spinach it's bad for you It's got the oxalates you know uh

popey it's all Bs but no it's like it's really about your gut like your gut is home to trillions of bacteria that's designed to assimilate these nutrients I always say you're not what you eat you're what you digest abor slow bacteria in the G I mean so why would oxalate why would have bacteria to process oxalates if if right so the problem is is people's guts are wreck I mean people's guts are so acidic um is that they're not able to Assimilate those nutrients and I think one of the biggest problems with the oxalates is

that you don't have that specific type of bacteria that's able to deal with what you're eating in the food so it's not about avoiding spinach because spinach is a strength food I mean spinach is incredible things like broccoli all the vegetables are so powerful for the body um they are really good at detoxification and cleansing and purifying the body especially the blood Um but it's really about the gut when the gut is healthy when your gut microbiome is balanced and you don't have that disbiosis where you're having more of these bad bacteria that basically eat

away at the gut lining versus the good bacteria that reproduce and uh can go after those bad guys it's like your your gut is always in a war right it's like the good guys versus the bad guys um or your gut's like a garden you want lots of flow you don't want Lots of weeds the people that have trouble with digesting vegetables have more weeds in the garden you know it's like people that have low stomach acid which I believe is one of the biggest causes of all disease in human mankind oh I could not

agree with you more on that when you say low stomach acid just just just so because sometimes we get these these terms confused you know um acidity in in in in the stomach he you know the lower the number the more Athetic and the higher the number the more basic thank you yeah and when we say get off your acid I'm not talking about stomach acid right stomach acid is critical I think we really got to talk about this because it's such a huge misconception out there I'm talking about the acidity in the body the

acid in the tissues or issues with the tissues um and stealth pathogens and the inflammation that that causes right so that's the things that we got to get rid Of but in terms of acid in the stomach it's critical I mean I call this GI North and one of the biggest things when hypocrates said all disease begins in the gut I believe we're talking about leaky gut but one step further because one of the D the driving uh causes of leaky gut is hypochloridia which is low stomach acid it creates three major problems right here's

the thing is that as we get older we don't get stronger we get a little weaker unless you're Gary Bre we don't we don't get faster we get a little slower we don't produce more stomach acid we produce less stomach acid right I mean when you're 20 years old Each decade you're going to lose 10% of that stomach acid that's what the research shows I'm telling you that is way more accelerated because the standard American crap diet right people have such low levels of stomach acid um that the problem is when they eat their food

they can't absorb those nutrients So you could be eating the best organic clean food in the world it's not getting into your cells all right so the first problem is you're getting Mal nutrition again I'll say this is so important we got to say it again you're not what you eat you're what you digest absorb and stimulate so as that food comes down and it gets into the stomach if we're not digesting and simulating that those nutrients aren't getting into the cells one of the ma major causes of Hypothyroidism is not something that's going on

with the thyroid you have all these doctors looking at the thyroid and yes we have to check those markers it's critical but why is the thyroid going hypo we got to look at the stomach right because we're not 80% of the T3 is is is is made in the you outside of the thyroid in the liver the gut the periphery it's deionized in the liver you know there's nutrients that are needed for that dioniz process um and Then and then you have the the you know the role of the gut and the periphery and actually

raising level taking T4 and turning it into T3 outside of the thyroid and it's astounding to me that when T3 levels are low that a lot of Physicians are saying well this is hypothyroid and they're medicating the thyroid in my opinion for a crime that is not committing that's exactly right that's exactly right so we have to look at that low stomach acid and start to Optimize digestion because maybe they're not getting iodine or selenium or vitamin C or magnesium or vitamin D because of the digestive process so it never reached the thyroid gland and

now the thyroid gland is getting hit by that plus the thyroid gland is the first organ that gets hit by leaky gut and that's another major issue so malnutrition is the first thing that happens from low stomach acid number two is we develop food sensitivities so Again as that food doesn't get digested so let's say I'm eating an avocado right when I did my food sensitivity test I love the MRT test um because it's notest yeah exactly it's not it's not looking at are you allergic to this food it's looking at when you consume this

food are you not digesting that food and therefore it's creating inflammation in your gut so that avocado comes down and it's not a small particle that your body can take in for nutrients so instead the Immune system that lives in your gut and by the way 80% of our immune system does does live in our gut right 80% of the nerve system lives in the gut 95% of the serotonin is not made in the brain made in the gut got to pay attention to this area so what happens is is that because that food's not

being digested it gets attacked and now we're developing these food sensitivities which is driving up inflammation it's causing more self pathogens to gain momentum again causing Leaky gut but I think the third and most important thing that happens from low stomach acid is the free passageway of stealth pathogens into the gut all right it's from the air that we breathe the water that we drink it's from the food that we eat again there's toxins everywhere and when those come through it's like my wife went to Michigan I said you want to have that Michigan defensive

line in your stomach that's going to kill it all before it gets in But no it goes right past the stomach right into the gut sets up shop and here we go right right so stealth path is I believe is one of the biggest causes of low-grade chronic inflammation in the body because we don't know that they're there and just like a stealth fighter you don't know that it's there it's going to kill you and take you out at some point that's what these stealth pathogens do and what's interesting is the is the stomach is

actually designed To prevent this from happening I mean one of the reasons why we have a stomach is to kill bacteria and And yet when we take proton pump inhibitors you know Nexium pyc um one of those was just recently pulled from the market too um might have been Nexium but in any case we take these proton pump inhibitors you know Tums R AIDS and acids and and and then we're we're killing the the pH of the stomach we're making it to alkaline so the first stage of the digestive Process is inhibited now we're dumping

alkaline contents into the gut where we should be dumping acidic contents into the gut and you're sort of reversing the natural physiologic role um of the gut one of the most incredible things for me as a human biologist um you know was discovering years ago that acid reflux was actually the byproduct of having too little acid oh boy right this seems so oxymoronic to me but then then when you understand the physiology of how these Different sphincter muscles you know in the stomach work this cardiac sphincter at the top of the stomach that's actually very

sensitive to not only the amount of acid but the pH of the acid and the more acidic the stomach is the tighter this muscle closes that's right and the more alkaline it is the more it relaxes and so what you're doing is you're asking that muscle to relax that protects the stomach acid from leaving and entering the esophagus and then You're wondering why you have acid reflux and so you keep taking more Anta acids and more to proton pump inhibitors further driving the alkal up and further exacerbating the acid reflux and then buying yourself a

downstream problem in the gut you would agree with that in the gut and the body I mean ppis guys if you've been watching the ultimate human podcast for any length of time you know that one thing I do not do is push products I do not just let any Advertiser into the space because I believe that the products that appear on the ultimate human podcast should be things that I use every day in my life to improve my own physiology one of them is something called the echoo plus the echoo plus is a hydrogen water

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Method is to get rid of the symptoms but here's the problem there's a research article uh that was published a year ago showing that 54% of people that take ppis actually have increased symptoms in terms of their acid reflux so it doesn't even work in the majority of people right not to mention you're actually taking the root cause of why we have acid reflux you're making it worse so the goal is to like snip the wire to the alarm in the house and uh you know now We don't know that there's something going on but

guess what the fire still there we just now aren't being paid attention to it the fire is going to take you out and by the way this is exactly what happened with my father with your dad really you acid reflux is a serious serious problem I know it leads to beretz ofius and and the pre you know the dysplasia is a predisposition to cancer and can even lead to cancer in the distal part of the Esophagus right is this what we're talking about it was October 2014 and it was a beautiful fall day one week

before the New York City marathon and I've been wanting to run the marathon for 20 years and uh I'm in my final training run in Central Park and I'm picturing myself walking past or running past that finish line and uh my wife would be there my son who Braden who's now nine was six months at the time he was just born and my parents uh were coming down from Vermont from Vermont to watch the race as well and all of a sudden my phone starts to vibrate I take the phone out and there's a Mis

call from my brother Brandon so me being a goofy brother take a a selfie snap it back to him and I keep going few seconds later phone buzzes again take the phone out this time it was a text call emergency wow immediately Gary I knew something happened to my parents again they were driving down from Vermont so they were Um driving down at 91 South like right before Harford a very very busy highway they were in the HOV lane my dad was always the driver my mom was always the passenger in fact she was knitting

a a sweater for my son Braden that she was going to give to him when they saw us and all of a sudden she feels the car start veering off like this well there's one huge problem a concrete divider going 70 miles per hour so she looks over at my father and there he is passed Out against the window like this no way serious car goes up the concrete divider she leans over grabs his leg off the accelerator pulls it off car comes back down car goes back up she grabs the keys pulls them out

of the ignition as the car crashes it's a miracle they didn't flip on to uncoming traic the other way and kill not just them but other people as well so all of a sudden I'm in a zip car heading from New York City up to the Harford hospital and all along the way I'm trying to figure out as a doctor like why did my dad pass out was it a heart attack was it a stroke was it an aneurysm right so when I get to the hospital I meet with a doctor he says your dad

has esophageal cancer I'm like what but how did that cause him to lose cancer did he bleed so he was bleeding out from the inside from years of Silent acid reflux he was a stubborn Italian father never mentioned anything this is before I was really like a gut Specialist right um but he always had this chronic cough and I was always saying to myself what is that chronic cough all about so 3 days later we're with a top um specialist in esophageal cancer as slone ketering and he says good news guys your dad's cancer hasn't

metastasizes or spread and these things are usually caused by too much acid we'll come back to that point in just we'll come back to that point in just a second and it's so Funny because I'm wearing my shirt that says get off your acid cuz that night I'm giving a keynote address at one of the big Wellness uh conventions in New York City um and I'm talking about how the or the the connections between acidity and as you mentioning before chronic inflammatory diseases like cancer heart disease and things like that right um and so like

right after that I doubled down I became a health investigator and like any investigator Does you start following the evidence I started calling every expert um you know uh reading every research uh article as many studies as possible how did this happen how did my dad get to this point and most important what can we do to hopefully reverse this thing right right so 3 years later I'm driving up um to my brother's house in Connecticut it was my birthday we're going to go there to see my family and spend the day with my dad

and when we got there um you can tell That you know he lost a lot of weight he wasn't looking good he was losing the fight did he have a gastrosoph gal resection what did they go in and reect it so what they did when when he was diagnosed with it he had an 11h hour robotic surgery because the damage was so bad right because he because we say yes it's from low acid but we have to understand is that acid still causes the damage right low acid is the reason a big thing is magnesium

deficiency that's What causes that esophagal sphincter to open and closed properly so there's a whole host of things we do for obviously when someone has acid reflux um but for years this acid even though it was low level was creeping up into the esophagus basically think about what acid does from a common sense standpoint acid is corrosive right it could burn a hole through chicken bones and metal think about what that does inside your gut inside your digestive system and when he Was driving that's what made him pass out he was bleeding out he had

to have two transfusions at the hospital and they did basically an 11-hour robotic Sur where they took two3 of his esophagus removed that half of his stomach they brought the two together so now his stomach was up in his chest which is just the whole crazy thing that was a pretty traumatic uh surgery that he went through um but nonetheless we're with him um on that day when we went to Visit him and again we could tell that he was losing the fight but we had a nice beautiful day uh my daughter now was three

months old so you know got to spend some time with my daughter we head back to the city Gary not even two hours later I get a call from my uh from my brother dad's in the hospital on life support in aoma oh my God so I'm back off there this time I took a train there's no way I was in the the state to drive we all gather around my father I'm Holding his hand and um he's got a tube down his throat and I said Dad I'm so sorry for not being able to

save your life and I made a vow to him in that moment I said dad I'm going to do everything in my power to prevent as many people from not suffering and not going down this route that you had to go and G after that they pulled the tube out and he died right there sorry so this has become thank you but you talk about when we started turning pain to Purpose this was such a painful moment it still is a painful moment but I've turn that into my purpose you know my story was originally

about me and sugar addiction and weight but it's taken on a whole new role which is the gut is critical it's like all these Downstream issues that people have whether that's brain fog uh anxiety depression uh issues with the reproductive system liver stress whatever it is right we got to go back to the gut and make sure the Gut's okay and most people it's not okay um so that's become my now mission in life is to help as many people become aware of how to protect your gut what to do to protect the gut and

again my dad's doctor got it wrong it wasn't about too much acid it was about too little acid and what can we do so you mentioned like the things that we could put into the body as far as the acidity one of the best things you could do is apple ceter vinegar you know it's like you take a Tablespoon of apple ceter vinegar 20 to 30 minutes before your biggest meal of the day put that in about a/ third cup of warm water because the warm water is going to stimulate the gastron this is how

to get the acid going again by the way I I don't know if I've ever shared this uh publicly but my my father had the same surgery um he had gastro sophal resection from uh um esophageal cancer oh wow um and by the grace of God he's he's still with us today but a large Part of this was because we got him off of uh postsurgery off of uh ppis but he did have that gastrosoph agal resection and I I I I got a very similar call to what you did and um and I think

that this is a much more prevalent problem I mean here we are two guys uh you know on a podcast um both of our fathers you know suffered from esophageal cancer and I think it's a lot more prevalent than people are aware and that you know we don't take action until you get that Phone call I didn't take action until I got the very same phone call um and my father started with a persistent cough too and uh so Captain John Brea's still around love you Dad and um but but but but I want to

get back to this so um as I I didn't mean to cut you off um so some of the ways that yeah you're you're welcome I know that's hard story to share um but I want to talk about some of the ways that um people listening practical things they can do to maybe Restore this acid balance so you were saying 30 minutes before a meal um tablespoon of apple cider vinegar love that um with baking soda you said uh you can add a little baking soda but I would prefer not to um if you're taking

baking soda it could deplete your other minerals right so what I would do is uh just do the straight up Apple Ceder vinegar or you can also in addition to that add a little bit of lemon juice now lemon we all know is an acidic fruit It's acid out of the body but it has an alkaline forming effect when you digest it so does apple ca vinegar because it's high minerals low in sugar right same thing with lime same thing with grapefruit not so with oranges because oranges have more sugar so you can just put

a little lemon slice in there now if someone does have acid reflux I recommend don't start with a tablespoon start with half of a teaspoon see how you feel if you get get that kick up of Acid reflux and what you do is take um a tablespoon or you know a couple teaspoons of baking soda in a little bit of water drink that that'll Comal it down right away or you could take some of our acid kicking minerals same thing and that'll comment right right away um but that's important because what that's going to start

to do is start to gently increase the stomach acid which is the goal right because um we want to digest our food we want to get those nutrients Into our cells one of the biggest symptoms we see with people from hypochloridia or low stomach acid is chronic fatigue yes you have no energy they'll sleep 12 14 hours they wake up they're still exhausted why because the body's not getting those nutrients into the energy factories of the body the cell right the mitochondria so it's really important that we do that before a meal um we have

to take a digestive enzyme I'm huge into digestive enzymes And we test for this I mean my moniter is tests don't guess um and I know that's one of your moniters as well I totally agree with that it's so important and especially when it comes to gut another one of my goals is to or missions is to have gut testing as regular as all the other testing you know it's like we test our cholesterol we test our blood sugar we test our hormones like we got to test our gut as well all right because we

can actually Look at all these numbers there's um a specific marker called the last taste one that will show up in a GI map or a stool sample test which is a direct marker if you're um making sufficient amounts of enzymes specifically to break down proteins right and what kind of test is this a saliva stool this is a stool sample y stool sample um and uses PCR technology so we're looking at the DNA not of our body but of the pathogens in that stool right um and it's very Very accurate and it gives us

a really uh incredible look at the entire microbiome we're looking at GI North we're looking at the the stomach digestion we're looking at your gallbladder um you know are we digesting and simulating the fats now you can tell if you're not simulating fast because the stool will float we got to look at our our stool we got look at our crab say nobody wants to hear that but um but it looks at something called steatocrit Which is basically looking at are we digesting our fats um and of course are we making enough dig gestive enzyme

so that's what we call GI North and just by adding a digestive enzyme before your first bite or after your first bite does wonders for your body because again it's going to support your pancreas and it's going to help you assimilate all those nutrients that your body really really needs so for somebody that's taking ppis right now or just constantly you know Sucking down the Tums at one point in my life years ago um it was when I was uh Triathlon training I used to buy the Costco sized like they were like quart jugs of

of Tums and I nibbled on those things like cotton candy um I I've been off of that for for for years now but so for somebody that's um constantly Tums roll AIDS an acids or on a PPI Nexium pyc and wants to get off number one is there hope for them to do so and number two what does that Pathway look like yeah absolutely 100% this is all reversible um and it's funny you say that I had that giant Tums in my uh in my car and also in my bag cuz my gut was such

a wreck as well I did too I I actually like the little chewable ones with the candy shell on them I'm going way back guys just way back uh yeah you can't tell that right um but isn't it funny how people will take more so the elderly they'll take Tums for calcium when you have an anti acid you can't Absorb the you know you can't absorb the Cal because yeah it's an oxymoron because you need the acidity um but it is 100% reversible but again you have to look at the root cause of what's off

in the gut that's driving this situation so rule number one you cannot stop your ppi's cold turkey that is the worst thing that you can do so you need to wait on that what we need to do is heal that gut get that gut back into a more strengthened State um and that's really Like what the testing does if you're not going to test there's ways to do it as well and but I'm saying the the Rolls-Royce way to get off PPI so first is test the Rolls-Royce ways is what I do is is we

test I'll do a food sensitivity test because we want to look at 170 different foods and chemicals that you might think is affecting your body like Foods it's not saying that that avocado was bad for me or garlic like garlic was one of my food Sensitivities so you're telling this Italian guy he can't have garlic for 3 months like yeah if I want to get my gut healthy so my diet maybe was a little boring for a few months but guess what I got healthier because of it so we do a food sensitivity test and

then we do the GI map or a stool sample test and is this a mediator release test an alcat it's a it's a mediator release test medor release okay which I love because it's really looking at more of the Inflammation um and and what it also does is it it it takes into account your your Baseline information and it looks at the distance that you travel from where you are to when you encounter this this this food uh you know food compound so it actually really is much more sensitive and I and I found personally

that um this mediator release test can be better than the alcat test we used to run the alcat test too so I understand it was actually developed by the same PhD and um and you know there there's just a more targeted result more accurate result food sensitivities rather than just anything creating inflammation and not taking into account your current state of inflammation so that's right that's right we're looking at probably mostly a 60% accuracy rate with the outat but when we look at MRT we're looking at a 94.5% sensitivity and the 91.7% specificity so what

that means in English if there's a food sensitivity And it shows up it's there and you got to pay attention to it because if you don't remove those foods for a few months this is not saying like stay off the foods forever it's t it's taking those Foods out of your diet for a few months and this is now what we call bio-individuality like I talk about eating a strength eating diet like these are the foods that we want to focus on which is better than nothing if we don't have a test but some of

those Foods Could be driving up inflammation in my body so we got to be very careful it's like the dog chasing his tail if my goal is to reduce inflammation in the gut and the downstream effects it's having in the rest of the body I have to remove all sources um of or root causes of inflammation and that could be the foods that we're unknowingly putting into our body that is driving up the inflammation so that's why that test is critical um you have to do it and then the other Test the GI map test

is amazing because now we're looking at how you're digesting your food we're measuring inflammation levels through something called cal protectin um which is such an important important number um we're looking at uh leaky gut we're looking through something called zulin we're looking at stealth pathogens we're looking at the whole status of your microbiome we're looking at your Healthy probiotics the commensal the Keystone Bacteria these are the good guys right these are the flowers that we want to build up but the problem is if our guts being overtaken by all these bad guys these stealth pathogens

whether that's candida or mold like I went through or an active virus like Epstein bar virus um or something like klebsiella or citrobacter or parasites right all right these are all things that people have in their gut and they have no idea that it's there until you test for it right So that's why I say like once you know it's there then you could go about it and do something about it laser focus a specific protocol to get to the root cause of these things because if you don't what happens is all these path like

a snowball they start to gain momentum they start to basically take they're like snipers they take out your good healthy guys the microbiome before you know it you have a lot more bad guys than good guys and we measure this There's something called secretory IG it's looking at your first line of defense because the gut is the first line of defense right um so we look at that number we can see exactly where it's at and then once we have that information we can talk about this is the right diet for you this is the

specific foods you should be eating these are the foods you want to avoid for the next few months this is the spe specific types of supplements that we Need to strengthen the gut to heal and seal that leaky gut and gut lining and most important these are the things we need to do to eradicate these stealth pathogens maybe we need to do um a bofilm disruptor to get to get at the um things underneath the surface that we can't see on that test and then maybe we need to do some binders to basically help the

body escort these toxins out and what happens Gary you know this over time all right we don't need a retest to Show that the buy is doing better because our energy goes up our weight starts to go down uh everything starts to our sleep is better all these things that we never would have associated with a healthier gut starts to improve and then when you go back in your retest all of a sudden you see these massive changes in markers I know you do that with all of your clients you're always pre- and post testing

it's critical because again we always say God lives in A computer right it's nice to see the object it's nice to see the objective data but I love when the clients start to feel better very very soon after starting something like this that's how resiliant the body is the body was designed to heal itself we just got to get out of the way and give the body what it needs and so what it doesn't need I love that so so we start by testing we look at food sensitivities food allergies um and sensitivities are Different

than allergies you know um so food sensitivities food food allergy testing mediator release test um they can add the um you know teaspoon up to a tablespoon of um apple cider Binger 30 minutes out from you know from a meal um then when you get the food sensitivity back you design you know a diet that's that's avoiding these sensitivities these food sensitivities and then repopulating the gut and I imagine that's with probiotics critical um and Uh what are some of your go-to probiotics so so first we test um and support and we get those Foods

out of the diet because I've got lots and lots and lots of people listening this podcast right now that are on proton pump inhibitors and they want to get off them and they do not know how to walk themselves out of it so this is critical um for so many of them and this is great information say it again it is possible I do with clients every single day I had A cent that came to me when we looked at her cow protectant level she had such bad reflux I can say this the worst case

of reflux I've ever seen her cow protectin was 698 again that's the marker of inflammation in the gut that number should be less than 50 ideally zero hers was 698 when she came to me she was suffering so bad she's seen you know you how many times they've seen like 20 different doctors then they come to us right and then they get well right Because again we're looking for the root cause we're doing things that these doctors aren't looking for um but it was incredible because she had you know ulcers in her esophagus ulcers in

her throat ulcers in her mouth she couldn't sleep at night because her her ears were popping um and again this was all because of the reflux and again when she came to me she was on 80 milligrams of a meol now it took us God yeah I mean it's insane so it and she was that's no acid Yeah and and she was I mean she was crying on the first visit I felt so bad for her she spent over I mean over $100,000 on the care over the years that she was trying to fix and

she was getting worse not better right so um it's our d duty to help these people but by doing it the way that it's going to get to the underlying reasons of why and uh it was incredible after the first re-exam or the retest about four months in uh symptomatically she was doing Better the symptoms were less intense less frequent her cow protecting was coming down when we hit the eth month Mark her Cal protectin was Zero no zero wow and that's cool but here's the cool thing she was off of 80 milligrams of a

meol we did it the right way so so so progressing down this um this line of of thought after the testing after some of the support you know um apple cider vinegars um after removing the food allergies and food sensitivities and Then getting on a good probiotic um and taking digestive enzymes which I'm also a big fan of and digestive enzymes um the ones that I use we usually take Midstream you eat a little bit of food you take the digestive enzyme you finish eating your food um that alone I've I've seen miracles in in

in clients uh coming through our clinic and so you you help the digestive system with a little bit of digestive enzyme and you give it further support with a good probiotic And when and how do you start titrating off of some of these ppis yeah it's the last effect and going back to your question on probiotics I love spore-based probiotics um in the beginning uh there's a few reasons why number one um they are a good supporter to strengthen the microbiome all right so that's that's important but Spore based prob Spore based um examples would

be things like megasporebiotic thri probiotic Um they have strands such as basilis um subtilus the fermented types yeah EXA exactly and it's it's not an alive bacteria it's the Spore right um so what happens is um it has a shell and as it goes through the harsh environment of the digestive tract that shell basically keeps it protected and it's like it's like a seed it's like a dormant seed and once it gets actually past the hydrochloric acid the bile salts and it goes into the gut then that shell Releases and then the Spore can do

what it needs to do um and it's probably the most important probiotic to take if someone's taking an antibiotic um and if someone is taking an antibiotic we can go over what the leaky gut protocol is for that um but what it also does is it um nudges out any bad pathogens so uh most probiotics don't eradicate pathogens spore-based probiotics can do that um and they did a study on 20-year-olds and they basically measured Them taking two um um spore-based probiotics at their largest meal of the day and what they found after 30 days was

that on average their leaky got healed by 44% wow 44% from a probiotic which they're not really designed to do now I love terrain based probiotics because they have more of the strains that has to be refrigerated what I like about the Spore base is that they do not have to be Refrigerated so it's a little more convenient um and we want to switch it up right so I'll start with a Spore based probiotic for the first two or three months and then once I see that their microbiome's getting stronger on the retest cuz we

look at these bacteria then I'll switch them to a more terrain based probiotic what is a Terrain based probiotic for people lob bacilus acrania you know um the ones that have to be refrigerated acidophilus yeah and you'll See plantarum you'll see like about 15 of those um you know in a in an average probiotic and those are important because that's what's going to strengthen the microbiome so now they've got the probiotic they're pretty far down the road they're taking the probiotic digestive enzymes they're avoiding the food sensitivities the food allergies they're giving themselves some support

um and now um how do we know and what's the mechanism of starting to Titrate down off of of some the ppis yep so their diet is in check now um there's the inflammation levels are coming down we have them on some specific agents to soothe and calm the upper GI tract that could be something like DGL which is deglycerized licorice uh which is an adaptogenic herb that is really good at healing the mucous membranes of the stomach the dadum small intestine even the esophagus um marshmallow root I love so marshmallow root one of my

favorite Things is to make a marshmallow root tea so I'll take um marshmallow root and cinnamon bark and I'll take 3 tbspoon of marshmallow root and 1 tblsp of cinnamon bark and what I'll do is I'll keep doing 3 tbspoon of marshmallow 1 tbspoon of cinnamon and I'll create a jar with that ratio and then once that jar is full airtight you have this amazing formula for a marshmallow rout tea which is great because it has anti-inflammatory effects it's anti-histamine it's an Antioxidant and it works great for people with irritation um ulcerations all sorts of

upper GI issues going through acid reflux and what they do is you take one tablespoon of of that put that in 8 O of water airtight top let that sit for 4 hours and then what you do is you strain that and you have an amazing anti-inflammatory soothing tea that these people can use that will help the mucous membranes of the gut so these are Some examples of things that they can do minerals bicarbonate um so now we've healed the upper GI tract we put in place the foods that are biologically right for that person

right now we are strengthening the gut with things like L glutamine probiotics and now their symptoms are better for some people that could be four months for some people like that client I was saying it was it was you know up to a year so we want to accelerate that process as quickly as Possible um but when they're ready how do we know they're ready their symptoms are gone right and once those symptoms are gone then that next phase is going to be starting in conjunction with their doctor responsibly to wean them off of their

ppis when you say wean off of PPI do you start skipping doses or do you start taking less of a dose on a daily basis yeah great question it really depends on which uh which one they're on which medication how much they're taking So if someone's taking uh 40 Mig of a meol in the morning and at night time or 80 all at once um then we'll just gently reduce the dose um and then we'll do that for a few days and then um sometimes what we'll do is We'll add in uh if they're doing

like a a PPI at night and morning we'll take out the PPI in the morning and in place we'll put like a pepid so it really depends on what's going on but the goal is to slowly reduce at their own pace um I Think the biggest mistake I see a lot of doctors make is that they go way too quickly and what happens you get this rebound effect and that's bad because number one now their symptoms get worse and number two now they're afraid to do it again right right so you got to go about

it slowly slowly with the amount that you're doing and then what we do eventually is we'll go every other day and then we'll keep on increasing that it depends on if it's if it's a tablet If it's a capsule um so again it's it's a slow and steady approach we do it the right way and once we get there um they're okay because we put all these other agents in that are still being taken so the tissue has healed so as we slowly remove the PPI we have all these other things that we've been doing

since day one that are still in place that are continuing to heal and seal and protect the gut right and then at some point what we would do once we were off the PPI is now introduce something like hydrochloric acid um in a very slow gentle way I would start with apple cider vinegar first but then foll that with hydrochloric acid um to start to get the actual IC acid back into play and you see that they're actually able to go back to normal pathic eating and um and and get completely off of the ppis

yeah and they their eating comes back way before I mean literally within three months they're adding in a lot of Those food sensitivities you don't have to even retest for it what you're looking amazing I've seen that on this MRT test these these sensitivities completely correct yeah it's amazing and you're looking for trigger symptoms when you add that food back in so let's say avocado was a I'm picking on Avocado my favorite food in the world God's butter um but um if I'm adding that back in I'm going to add that in by itself with

other green Foods cuz I'm looking at am I still being irritated by that food am I having any acid reflux bloating indigestion constipation uh am I feeling tired uh brain F anything like that would that would warrant yes this is still an issue for me and if it was then maybe I'd go another month without that food but if I don't have those trigger symptoms I'm good to go yeah um love it man um I think you and I also share a common uh love for hydrogen water oh yes we've got our hyd water bottles

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the perfect aminos bodyhealth.com timate and now back to the ultimate human podcast so um from a gut Standpoint talk a little bit about the you know the impact and why you're so a fan of of of hydrogen water on the gut and um you know some of it's any inflammatory you know compounds or any inflammatory effects and and why you're such a fan of yeah it's so powerful I mean the gut should make 10 liters of hydrogen every single day and the problem is 10 liters 10 lit of hydrogen of hydrogen every day hydrogen gas

yeah hydrogen yeah yeah hydrogen gas and the Problem is that we don't do that right because our guts are such a wreck right think about the onslaught from you know the the day we're born till now how much much abuse our gut has taken and it's just not making the amount of hydrogen so that was mine it just went off I just talking about God health and I'm like firing up my hydrogen water cheers but the reason why I love hydrogen is because it's a selective antioxidant so not to get too scientific but you have

Two H2 is what molecular hydrogen is so you have two hydrogen atoms and the best part about that is that can take out two hydroxy free radicals so o is the bad guy that's the one that causes damage that's the one that makes our body rust and rough from the inside out that's what causes our biological age to basically age uh faster than the clock says is supposed to right so it'll basically one hydrogen will take out an O and guess what that forms H2O so from One molecule of molecular hydrogen we form two water

molecules it's not like other antioxidants that will steal an electron that is a little bit more unstable so it's a very stable selective antioxidant that's number one number two it's amazing because it's a powerful anti-inflammatory it goes up to the brain within 30 minutes of ingesting this I mean there's over a thousand studies on this um hydrogen studies.com is a great website love that website It's amazing um on Parkinson's patients that literally have Tremors they start doing uh the hydrogen water because it lowers inflammation of the brain which is obviously one of the triggers for

all these different sorts of brain issues and we're seeing that the Tremors will stop um they've done studies in combination with f floracil when you take the hydrogen and you expose it to a choral cancer cell there's 100% apoptosis which means the cancer cell's Gone wow so it's powerful but probably my favorite thing is that molecular hydrogen or hydrogen water is the only therapeutic agent that can actually um increase the Anor robic Flora of the of the gut faster than the antibiotic can take it down so if someone's taking antibiotic what does everybody say to

take take a probiotic right yeah you should take a probiotic take a spore-based probiotic that's the most important one but when you're drinking Hen water it's so powerful because it's actually going to outpace the damaging effects that the antibiotic is doing to your gut so it's critical right and so many people are on you know antibiotics especially for sibo which is just destroying the rest of the gut um I mean I understand you you know it's it's the lesser of two evils right when you have these um bacterial overgrowths but I I'm I'm an enormous

fan of hydrogen water I've got thousands of people drinking Hydrogen water and I get comments all the time that you know when I travel I I just don't feel the same because I forgot my hydrogen water bottle oh this goes everywhere with me I love it yeah it goes everywhere with me too um but the um you know the concept of you know just getting back to homeostasis and getting back to what you know the natural state that we are supposed to be in and because of the constant assault of of you know microplastics and

Glyphosate and pharmaceuticals and chemicals and synthetics and and all you know these different things in our in our food and in our water water um you know I believe that anytime that we can bolster the body's natural ability to detoxify and reduce inflammation we're taking huge steps ahead rather than using a chemical synthetic to actually create that inflammatory effect so do you have um is hydrogen water a part of your gut rebuilding protocol absolutely Okay absolutely um obviously you have to get a good probiotic in there which we spoke about molecular hydrogen is critical based

probiotic and everybody has leaky gut you know the re out there says 80% of people have leaky gut it's 100% I'll be at different degrees and when I do my li blood cell analysis testing it confirms that because we see candida signs of fermentation in blood samples of 100% of the people now the question is is do I have an overgrowth Of candida or was there leaky gut that's allowing candida from the gut to get into the bloodstream which is obviously bad right now we all have candida in the gut in a small amount that's

actually good because candida is there to break down but so many people have an overgrowth of candida so it's so important that we heal and seal that gut wall um there's a protocol that I have that can do that in two years because the I mean two two weeks uh because the Problem with an antibiotic is that it will wipe out your microbiome for two years right wow one round of antibiotic just destroy it's like a nom bomb right it destroys the bad it destroys the good and things like sugar and gluten and dairy will

poke holes in that gut but this is like Open Door all those things that should never get into the bloodstream now systemically into the body will get in there like undigested proteins um mot toxins uh candida Inflammation bacteria all that stuff right so what you want to do is take one tablespoon of liquid aloe vera okay something like a Georgia's aloe um or a lily of the desert and then you take one tablespoon of bioactive silver hydrol um I love like Sovereign Silver orent Sil Hydra silver hydrol it's a very not not um uh you

know not regular silver that people are used to we talking about bioactive silver hydrol it's a much more Nano smaller particle And you take one tablesp of each at the same time um on an empty stomach you do that three times a day for two weeks what the aloe does it protects the silver down through the digestive system and then once it gets into the gut basically the aloe lets it Go silver I love is because it's an immunomodulator IT boosts immune function it's an antiviral antibacterial antifungal when I was having heavy mold issues mold

toxicity mold sickness this was a big Part of my healing process and then the AL ver is great because it's very soothing to the gut it'll heal and seal that gut wall um and of course during this protocol two weeks you also want to take um two of the spore-based probiotics at your largest meal of the day and it's incredible you know for some people we might do that longer depending on how much abuse there's been to the gut but it's so powerful at getting rid of inflammatory pathogens in The gut um building up the

immune system in the gut and most important healing and sealing that gut wall which is critical for our health because again all disease begins in in the gut it's the leaky gut yeah and and where do you fall on peptides I mean I'm a huge fan of peptides like bpc157 you know which is a gastric pentadecapeptide it's actually synthesized from gastric juice um I you know I've seen our clinical team use it And create miracles in in leaky gut it's also good for injuries what I call nips and bibbles you know those little minor tear

in the rotator cuff knees hips shoulders ankles um the FDA recently you know banned compound pharmacies from producing it but you can still get nutritional grade which is a very high grade of of bpc 157 um do do these peptides have a role in your protocol in healing and sealing the gut and if so like how do you incorporate those yeah I Love peptides I love BP 517 uh funny that you mention that I'm taking three capsules twice a day of bpc 157 um not so much for my gut I'm texting I'm taking two capsules

three times a day we're so we're so I like except I'm shorter than you yeah um it's important because it heals connective tissue um you know I'm taking that for a spinal injury that I had I broke my neck as I was telling you before um when I was 18 um and they wanted to do surgery on me a Year ago because I have so much damage and degeneration severe pressure on my spinal cord and the spinal nerves where I was I mean I have a high threshold of pain but I was like at like

a nine level pain and I just didn't know what to do so I'm biohacking doing all these different things but I started adding three capsules twice a day of that and then I started adding three capsules twice a day of boswellia which is B frankincense which is a natural Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory and Gary it was amazing literally within three or four weeks my pain level went from a nine down to a two and from you know all the adjusting over years you can see my uh arthritis and my two pinkies there um you know 130,000 adjustments

over 25 years uh just abuse that boswellia looks works really good and also um the bpc on the extremities shoulders wrists hands so so it's something that I use for that which is really really good anyone Suffering with arthritis it works wonders but for people with reflux and when I had my mold toxicity what I did was I would take a capsule of the bpc 157 I'd open that up in just maybe an ounce of water mix it up drink that on an empty stomach and what that does is it heals the whole upper GI

tract wow it heals ulcers it heals the connected tissue helps the mucus membranes not just in your stomach but further Downstream in the small intestine and Upstream in the esophagus these are all things wish I knew when my dad was alive but again this is what we're doing with our clients now getting phenomenal results and that's what biohacking is you talk about hydrogen it's like the body should make the hydrogen but we're not making it so what tools can we uh put into the body how we can change our internal environment also change the external

environment to basically get that 10 liters to get these different Things that we need to help our body heal itself from the inside out yeah I love it I mean and like I say I've been a huge fan of of peptides ever since I've never actually heard of taking the capsule breaking it open um maybe you could even put it in yogurt or yeah you can put it in yogurt for sure okay um and then you just swirl it around a little bit of water and and swallow it so it leaves and does its job

on the way down that's exactly right because I Think you have you know one thing when you're trying to get somebody off of a of a a PPI and and heal the um you know the acid reflux condition but then there's the other side which is we have to repair the tissue that's been damaged um because you don't know unless you've been endoscoped you don't know the exact state of that endothelial damage and so you know peptides should be yeah and they're safe you know they're there's there's really no downside to Doing it so if

you didn't have that endoscopy doing this is just a no-brainer because you have to assume that there has been some damage you don't know the extent of that damage but we have to assume that and putting that into the body it's going to work wonders and I love things like kpv um when I had my mol toxicity I was diagnosed with Sears chronic inflammatory response syndrome uh which about 25 % of the population has we're like the canary and The coal mines when it comes here we are in Southwest Florida the mold capital of the

world EX I actually just found that out the the the m capital world that's why I got air filters in every room the house they're they're they're amazing but one of the the markers that was off was something called msh um which is very common in serious patients but kpv is really good at helping a great peptide to help increase the msh levels so peptides have been a big part of my Life um thymosin I mean there's so many different ones out there that th alha yep so I was using that as well but uh

I would say my number one go-to is hands down the bpc 157 I love it and it's got so many different things that you can use it for yeah I agree this has been amazing I mean I'm I I I want 100% I'm going to have you back on the podcast because um I rarely get guests uh that actually give come on and give really good practical steps for how People can solve an issue in their life and I bet there are thousand thousands and thousands of people that are watching this podcast that are saying

thank you finally somebody told me the process to get off of my ppis I know that they're bad I know I shouldn't be taking them I don't like shoveling down the ant acids I can tell that I've got issues in my gut you know Downstream from um from lack of gut floor and food sensitivities but now at least I have a Road map um so um I do want to give a shout out to your um alcaline product which is what I use in my coffee on a daily basis I have a hard and fast

rule on the ultimate human that I never um talk about products or services that I either don't use every day in my daily life or I don't actually um have firsthand knowledge of and I use yours in my daily life and I have firsthand knowledge of so I want to give you a minute to talk about the alkaline Alkaline product um and then um where they can find it and how they can find you sure yeah and And in regards to acid reflux you know I we kind of connected through the acid kicking coffee yeah

I love the name of I got to give Kelly I got to give Kelly rip a huge props for that cuz she's who inspired me she came to me in 2014 and I was doing some work with her and her daughter and uh I had no idea she was going to do this but she goes on the show a few days later Because she was feeling so much better after just getting off her acid and doing some of things that we talk about so she's talking about this and she's like I'm still drinking my coffee

but I didn't tell them and at that point I was telling people don't drink coffee don't drink coffee especially if you have acid reflux right because coffeee is so acidic and here's the deal with coffee there are a lot lot of upsides to coffee so many benefits to coffee right major Benefits to coffee but the one huge downside is it's suicid so when she said that like my lights are going off how can we fit this into people's lifestyle so they can still drink their coffee even people with acid reflux and that's kind of how

acid kicking coffee was born um and all it is is a powder that you add into your coffee ideally we should be drinking organic coffee um I drink mold-free coffee but I love it it's got It's got MCT oils I mean it's um coconut Oil it's going to cream that coffee so it's got those plant-based keto fats it's going to suppress your hunger um it's got the acid fighting minerals so it's the minerals that neutralizes the acid we've done studies showing that it will neutralize all the acid in up to a 20 ounce venti so

um it's so powerful what one scoop can do and um we have um you know five plant-based vegans uh vegan enzymes fat burning enzymes which helps your body metabolize the fat also Helps bloating and indigestion there's Himalayan salt so we're getting in those trait minerals also helps people with sugar cravings and it tastes amazing I know you're you're the vanilla guy yeah I love the vanilla one man well now I'm drinking the brain boost because you only put brain boost in one of the versions and now I feel like I'm I'm I'm ripping myself off

if I just have the vanilla so now that's the Hazel which is my is my favorite but we also have a Version for black coffee drinkers you know and black coffee drinkers I I'm not a coffee guy when I first kind of started developing this I'm a green juice guy so I had no problem formulating our acid kick and greens and our minerals um but when it came to the C it's like it took us two fail launches before we finally got it 5 years of testing and testing and not just testing like I'm testing

every different mineral what were because there's over 35 Different acids in coffee most of them bad some of them good like chlorogenic acid so it's selective which means it goes after the more reactive dangerous acids and it actually will preserve the good acids right um so we went through a whole testing uh process to see which different minerals are going to work the best to deal with the acid and we retest said that um it tastes great uh so the whole goal is to kick your coffee's acid before even hit your body right and so

Many of our clients they were on uh on uh you know ppis and acid reflux and all that stuff and now they could drink coffee while they're going through that process because people love their coffee but we do have one it's a packet that you can add to your black coffee won't change the taste uh won't change the color anything like that um so black black coffee drinkers we got you covered out there and then we have the acid kicking alcohol which is kind of the Next version so it's like what's the two times of

day that people are most acidic when they wake up and they're caffeinating and at the end of the day when they're chilling with a glass of wine so it's not about saying you can't have those things let's choose better versions of the things that we're drinking but again now we just came out with acid kicking alcohol five drops in every drink it's a proprietary blend of ionic minerals that will kick your Alcohol's acid it brings the pH of your alcohol no matter how acidic wine has a pH of 3.1 vodka a little bit higher pH

of like four to five but what it does it brings the ph up to the pH of your gut around 8. for and now once it's at that pH now your gut can deal with it instead of attacking it now your gut can actually deal with the assimilation process it's easier on your liver it lowers the inflammation process and most important it's not going to irritate Your gut it's not going to cause acid reflux bloating indigestion problems and the next day is a lot better the hangovers go away I find I I I know I

swear by it myself so I end every podcast by asking every guest the same question um and there's no right or wrong answer to this question but what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human oh I love that question the ultimate human to me is about being in Balance um it's about having peace in my Life um it's about having energy to deal with what I have to deal because life is is stressful it's like especially over these last three years like life has gotten Crazy for all of us it really has

yeah and for most people stress is managing them but we need to have the ability to manage stress and to do that um we have to get back to the basics like when you know I'm human I get off track you know most people do when I do that I just get back To the basics like what are those Basics water right let's start drinking more water we're dehydrated think about that plant that plant Wills give it water um breathing like these things are free like we got yeah exactly we got to get that breath

in you started talking about oxygenation it's the most critical nutrient for the body so we have to breathe unfortunately most of us are stuck in fight ORF flight sympathetic survival mode we need to shift that to Parasympathetic healing mode all right 90% of people are trapped in that fight ORF flight State and that third f is freeze right um so I think it's so important that we get back to the basics getting more minerals into our body moving our body motion is emotion you know most of us live the sedentary lifestyle so you got to

get out of your desk and move the body 10,000 steps we're getting off this podcast and we're doing a 10,000 step I'm driving down This morning and I see this guy on the road I'm like Gary and he's got his 10,000 steps so again you have to I was out getting my 10,000 steps this morning when when you're no matter how good you feel or no matter how bad you feel you got to do these things every single day you got to be proactive and if you do those things life will be in balance and

for me it's about a why um you know it's like I can have the best strategy in the world but if I don't have a purpose a Why to get behind why I do when life happens when the you know it hits the fan it could be you know Co it could be a death of a parent or something at work yep things things can go bad but if you have that powerful purpose you're going to have the wherewithal you're going to have that drive that passion that motivation to find find a way to get

through it so for me it's about the right strategy it's about getting back to the basics but most important it's About having that why and having faith um you know when I was really sick with mold I was at the lowest of the low I didn't think I was going to grow up to actually see my kids or or think I was going to be around to see my kids grow up and um it was a it was a awful time in my life I remember just sitting in my bed just staring up at the

ceiling in a dark room and um it was just a dark time and my wife brought me to uh a church out in California and I gave my life That day to to Jesus and wow um you know I still have my struggles here and there with my faith it's an ongoing process but it's amazing how you can just get help out there whether it's your faith a mentor a family member don't do this alone don't be on an island all right we need to be in community we need to have these relationships together we

can get there I need to lift someone else up they need to lift me up together we lift each other up and we do this together Man there is no limit to what we can do we can become that ultimate human it's possible it's doable love that I gave my life to Christ in uh 1994 at a promise Keepers convention in in Chicago Illinois Soldier Field so happy to hear you say that man thank you so much Dr J for coming on to the podcast um this has been an amazing podcast um one of my

one of my favorites we're definitely going to have you back awesome and as always guys that's just science