[Music] t Okay um do you remember the king grinder P2 okay so I haven't I haven't really played with it yet because um the Philippine coffee Expo um we attended the Philippine coffee Expo we were invited to be one of the um guest Brewers so I did a bar takeover with Escala coffee company and the Philippine coffee Guild anyway today we are going to Define what is the um conversion of the king grinder P2 based on the commandante settings right so according to the website the king grinder P2 has 75 um 75 click settings things so looking at the looking at the um adjustment plate it has 10 numbers 10 numbers with three three clicks per number so in one rotation we have 30 clicks right so two rotations is 60 and then 2 and a half is 75 so we zero it down in my case my zero clicks on my king grinder P2 is number six so one rotation of that is 30 okay another rotation is 60 and then half of that is 75 so this should be the biggest one what we're going to do is we're going to try to match the biggest setting of The King grinder P2 versus the biggest of the commandante c4t and then we move from there so we will try and match the um grind size from there okay so when we are doing this we're just going to try and grind a little bit at the time at a time just a little bit at a time [Music] so okay now I'm going to get my king um my commandant C40 and then I'm going to turn that into 40 clicks because the commandant is C40 the biggest setting that I use is at 40 The Next Step that we're going to do is we're going to take out the fines because um Grinders differ in the production of their microfins it needs to be taken out of the equation so that we can actually see the grind size that it produces the real grind size now after taking out the micro particles of the commandante oh by the way the seed that we're using right now is the generic um sifter and it removes 500 microns and Below all right now I just need to clean this up before we use it for the [Music] now that it's clean we're going to use it with a P2 to see if we have matching sizes all right um M I think we have exactly the same um grind size um we can actually take this further with the die fluid particle analyzer let me just get my setup we have this simple Contraption where I um actually made my own um particle analyzer based off on their file on the die fluid file so we're going to try the commandante first test so that is around 1,500 microns right now where is my oh there this yeah I will be making a video about the the rig of the particle analyzer soon but yeah I'm still enjoying it so watch s for that okay now we're going to try the P2 and yes we have very close numbers 1,553 I think we are both at the same um same size with the biggest one it's a it's a bit of a laborious um process but it makes sense it actually works now that we have the rough um chart for the P2 we're going to try another size so I'm going to try yeah let's try 20 clicks on the commandante okay so we're going to do it one more time so that is 20 clicks oh I forgot to use the Shaker the sifter okay when we remove the microfine particles um it's actually easier to see the um intended grind size of the setting that we're trying to do now according to my grind chart that is 12 3 so we're going to zero the king grinder P2 again okay so that is 12. 3 one rotation is 10 okay and then 11 12. 1.
2 okay 12. 2 then we're going to do the same according to the website the king grinder P2 is actually intended for both um for both espresso and filter use but I haven't really used it in an espresso I haven't really tried it yet we're also going to test the P2 for the for espresso use but right now we are simply trying to establish the uh we are simply trying to establish the grind chart so that we can easily use it in the future okay most of my Grinders I do a grind chart conversion so that um I can easily replicate my recipes So based off on the commandante okay I think that's enough ooh this looks very promising oh interesting right uh visually wow visually they look the same I need to take a picture of this visually they look exactly the same right um we're going to do the we're going to use the particle analyzer again right just let me set up my rig we're going to use the particle analyzer again um let's do the commandante first right and then test we are getting around yeah around 1,900 microns 1,000 to or 900 to 1,000 995 994 now let's try the okay now we're going to do the king grinder P2 right maybe a bit more okay wow we are very close all right so I I I guess we have established the um um grind chart um the reason that the reason why the the reason why the king grinder P2 came out a bit smaller is in the conversion in the in my chart in the conversion chart it is a bit smaller because 12. 2 is not quite the number 20 on the commandante right so you can actually do 12.
