David Icke | WHO IS REALLY RUNNING THE WORLD

They know that the body is a biological computer it can be manipulated as computers can be manipulated to process information in a different way control the information that is processed that's the censorship but you go to the next level and you are literally changing the way the brain processes information from within one of the great manipulative techniques is to sell the idea of inevitability if if you think Something's inevitable you move from not having it to well how can we mitigate its impact and and that's the Soft Cell we have this Global cult a network

a Global Network of secret societies that is driving the direction of human society Way Beyond president what I started to realize is that this reality is actually a simulation it's a incredibly Advanced version of a virtual reality game this is definitely interview that I've been looking forward To and working on getting for for years because I've been listening to you and watching you on YouTube at least whatever they keep up of course for for so long you've been engulfed in this truth revealing for decades and decades and way before we ever could have a conversation

that included even the word Consciousness I I'm I'm honored to have this time and I think I just want to kind of start off by asking you if you know any anything shocks you anymore uh No no nothing shocks me um in the sense that the more you more we grasp um the scale of the infinite reality that we are part of we're only seeing a smear of it I mean I mean even a smear is doesn't uh describe it really and that Infinity is infinite possibility so anything is possible uh and uh nothing nothing

surprises me anymore and another reason it doesn't surprise me is that when I started out uh 35 years ago there was hardly anybody um talking about this Stuff there were just a few desperate individuals the challenge was that this dystopia Journey called a conspiracy which is what it is was under the radar largely uh in the sense of you you had to you know really go D digging to to uncover it and where the world was being taken uh but of course particularly since uh quote covid The covid hoax we've had um it more and

more put in our face yeah and and I think that what is Shocking a lot of people who haven't been on this journey uh for uh 35 years is is the scale of Deceit that um was controlling their lives before uh because uh so many people have said to me in the last few years it's so obvious why didn't I see it before but there's a reason there's a reason for that there's many reasons for that but one of them is well it was it was operating under the radar and now it's uh particularly well

what happened With CO as I said at the time is that this has entered the room uh where we can see it and although still lots of people just buy the nonsense um heck of a lot more than ever did before do not uh but uh my concern has been particularly since uh the the the covid uh period um is that what we call um alternative the alternative media that which uh that part of it because I mean the alternative media has got absolutely Fantastic people in it but that core that attracts all the algorithmic

support and all the funding I mean we we've had stories running yesterday and today about some of the unbelievable funding that some of these people get it it's created uh what I call a barricade a barricade around this expansion uh we we go through a series of Awakenings um which I think are different levels of deprogramming actually what we call Awakening the First one is to realize that the world's not controlled by the people we thought it was which is Presidents Prime Ministers and such like ag1 is a foundational nutritional supplement that delivers daily nutrition

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the alternative media Since covid more and more blatant now um has put this barricade around it and so the focus of attention on what is the conspiracy is Trump or Harris basically um Republicans Or democrats um and and and whatever two parties or three parties you have in other countries this focus of attention on politics like Trump is the savior we've got to get Trump in um well even if Trump is the savior I don't think he is for a second what happens in four years Time when someone else comes in I mean you're not

getting to the core of um what's going on so what's going on is just going to continue there's nothing that shocks me anymore but I have been um not shocked deeply disappointed by the way the alternative media has focused its attention on on um the Left Right puppet show because that's a diversion it's not the answer it's a diversion and so many people currently as we go up to this Election are being diverted from what they need to know to what they're told to know well before we started and and we just chatted and I

asked you if you I I said that I wanted to mention the the election and whether or not our president was going to make a difference and you said no and then of course that leads into if they don't make a difference which it's very potentially a very logical answer given the fact that the the president that we Have right now isn't even really being a president and yet the country's carrying on who is running the show then well that tells you doesn't it that tells you the Biden period um tells you um you've had

someone who's uh at least shall we say uh psychologically challeng um and yet um the countries have got has gone on the decisions have been made and clearly he's not been making them now all that probably for the whole time probably for nearly nearly the whole Term really yeah 100% I mean there was a reason why they they they kept him in the bunker and kept him away from uh just as they are with camela Harris and Trump was president when Co happened so if he was able to hold those those kinds of things back

then that's also not possible either that that occurred while he was President so yeah who who's really running the show yeah there's a few things come out of that first of all is uh that um clearly in the Biden Period um he's not been running the country I mean just go back a bit further go back to Boy George Bush at the time of the invasion of Iraq the man hardly had a you know a a brain cell on active duty I mean you just look at it and and the the person who was running

uh the country at the time of Boy George Bush was Dick Cheney uh the vice president one step back that's where you usually find the power uh rather than the PE person absolutely Up front and Dick Cheney was a uh a cohort uh I have to say it an absolute evil cohort of another evil guy called father George Bush so this is not new and you keep you go back you know back and back and back you're you're seeing the same um this same theme of something in the background always being there that's the thing

to remember see because this is a um a conspiracy uh to uh create total uh Global human control and it doesn't come In and stop when another party comes in it's it's it's constant it's it's been going on literally in our perception of time anyway of for thousands of years and it's just now reaching its its kind of endgame um and so um obviously throughout this whole period there's been a common theme a common coordinating Force where you got really uh way back into the non-human to to find the source of that but at at

the Level of um of presidents and prime ministers it's it's what people call the Deep State the Deep State um it uh a uh a network that operates within countries uh and therefore no matter who's in power that's in power uh but um there's also a NE the next level of the deep State and the next level the next level until you've got what I call the global cult that's orchestrating the whole direction of of global Human Society so you've got that confirmed That presidents don't run the show what they're trying to do is to

take our power um first of all to convince us we have none you're just little me you've got no power you've got to look up to Authority and experts to tell you what to think to convince us first of all we have no power but then to get us to give away the power we do actually have right to any other s any source that they can convince us to give it away for uh to and that's the point of politics Politics is there to uh get you to give your power away in in American

terms to an individual in fact even even that in UK these days to an individual and then say you do it for me for the next four years and then they go and and and and uh run your life and dictate your life for the next four years and then what happens is you have another election and you think well I didn't like him so I'm going to I'm going to vote for them which is always it keeps going back and Forth in in a general Rhythm exactly and and and then the same process repeats

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tens of millions of people who are voting for say Trump who if they simply cease to cooperate with their own enslavement like 70 odd million apparently voted for them I was reading then the system couldn't function and because that would be people uh collectively taking their power and expressing it in non-cooperation with um their own enslavement but instead you you give this power away at Elections to an individual and that individual is controlled by the same force that controls the individual he was um campaigning against in the election and they then play out the cult

agenda now you've got two parties in America you have different natural constituencies so the two parties have to use different rhetoric to keep keep those constituencies on board they they have to um move at at at slower paces and convince their uh natural base of The same thing but in a different way if you look at the so-called left it's not the left that I knew I I grew up in the the left in politics in in Britain that was that was the household I I grew up in um I definitely not the same as

it used to be none of it no I completely reject the the the the puppet show of left and right and it's all diversion and a nonsense but um you're absolutely right the the so-called left is not the left that was uh a lot of the people That used to call um left they now call right wing kind of funny because it's moved so much so that that's really uh if you're looking at the the natural Democrat base that's pretty much a pushover so you can go for the hard cell with that uh but with

the the the the others um like the Trump supporters uh they don't want what the wokers will accept and and often demand um so you have to get to the same end to the same outcome through another means I'll give You a great example of what I mean by that the idea the the plan and it's getting closer every day is to connect artificial intelligence to the human brain so that artificial intelligence becomes the human mind I I go into this in some detail in my new book the reveal uh because it's all connected to

this covid fake vaccine uh as as well as the other things that are happening all around us all the time that's the outcome they want why because up to this Point they've had to manipulate information and control information as best they can to dictate the perception of the population because you're dealing with a compare with a billion people in full knowledge of what they're doing you're dealing with a tiny number of people by comparison you're not going to be able to control the population physically until you get AI connected and then you tell the population

what they're going to think and how they're Going to react and how they're going to behave and therefore you are in that sense controlling them physically but before that you have to control their perception because from perception comes behavior and if you want people to behave the way you want you've got to get them to perceive the way you want that's where all the censorship comes in it's controlling the information that people receive so that they come to the conclusions you want them to the the Next stage this AI stage is to go beyond that

uh and and literally give people their perceptions direct so you've got two groups I mean the almost like almost like an Inception almost like you don't have to like they're going to implant it in a way get to as we go along the means through which I'm I'm I'm saying in the reveal that they they they're they're not just planning to do it they are doing it now uh but so the outcome is that that's what they want so you've got Two groups of people in theme at least a a woke or Democratic type uh

mentality that will will go with this and and so you can give them the hard cell through people like CLA Schwab at the world economic Forum Bill Gates uh kwi at at Google who's talking about and and did a long time ago now years ago talked about the uh year two uh 2030 when um AI would be connected to the human brain and and in his words from from that moment of connection um AI would do more and more of human thinking until human thinking is negligible and actually deleted so so that's the hard cell

but but then you've got all all these people tens of millions of them in America and and and more and more around the world who don't want that they don't want this whole AI Control dystopian system they've seen in China what happens with the social credit system and all that where it's it's total control all you have to do is Watch Black Mirror and all this stuff get very scary I've I've watched quite a few of those and um yeah that they they are looking at um a dystopian world that this is uh this is

pled to be and we're going there faster and faster all the time so how do you deal with that um vast number of people in America alone who don't want what your what your agenda is well enter Elon Musk yeah I was I was hoping you would mention him because he's a very like confusing Character in his in his efforts and what he's developed and and and whether or not he really is has human interest at heart or not and and and honestly I don't know if you saw the recent interview about him talking about

his son and losing his son to changing genders but like it sounds like maybe there's a shift within him but very curious what you think about Elon there's no shift in in in in what I'm observing but there is enormous deceit Going on by Elon well he's being played by by those that control him I mean we we can get into uh the fact that uh his companies survive like SpaceX survives but from contracts from NASA and and the Pentagon government contracts and others like um um neuralink the the brain chip uh company which is

actually way back from The Cutting Edge by the way we might get into that but he was involved in chat GPT too originally and then when it was sort of run in a way that he Didn't like he got out of that so it's it's interesting and then he gets into to Gro you see you see this is one of the one of the points that people I think need to need to grasp about the whole AI Arena you you've got to have fake competition and fake rivalry it might not be fake absolutely at the

the point of of delivery but it's fake in the bigger picture so okay so chat GPT oh oh that's left wi that is that's manipulating so we're going to have Gro And we're going to have this Google version and we're going to have this Amazon version but but but what I keep saying this what is the outcome of all of them this AI information system takes over information we we're now having people in the alternative media uh alternative in quotes who are interviewing chat GPT and right and and and you go on the internet and

you're being offered all these AI systems to to give you information right but it so so You can have your fake rivalry oh musks what is he saying about Sam Alman what's he saying about musk but actually look at the outcome and the outcome is that these things are taking over because from a from a a a cult Global cult point of view This Global Network of secret societies I talk about they control musk they control Alman they control chat GPT they control Gro they control all of them it but but they're designed for a

particular audience because you're Trying to pull them in and the hardest ones to pull in are those that don't want what you want to impose and so I've been tracking Elon Musk long long before he um he uh purchased Twitter actually look at the number of people that are around the world including the Saudis that own Twitter you wonder how how how much their commitment is to free speech uh and cats are and places like that that are involved in Twitter ownership anyway so and in that pre- Twitter period there were people in the alternative

media who were calling musk out because you've only got to look at his companies to see that they're serving the agenda in many and various ways Space X massively and we can we can get into that when we come into this AI High mind uh situation that I've been talking about um but that all stopped the moment he bought Twitter X and started letting a few people back on it was like he's he's suddenly become a God of this um uh alternative media which is not alternative at all it's just right-wing politics that's what it's

solidified into coagulated into now he gets a free ride and suddenly you'll know noticed a few weeks ago musk suddenly became incredibly overtly political in terms party political started Trump interview the Trump interview on X was yeah launching pad for that in a really really uh intense way he's doing it all the time now and He's been offered a job and accepted it in a trump right what's happening you're looking at the Soft Cell to the AI human to convince that big constituency that will be supporting Trump what is what is musk saying he's saying

that um AI is inevitable its development is inevitable it's not it's the result of choices but um he's saying it's inevitable and therefore it could be the end of humanity it's been saying that for a Long time okay um well first of all why do you keep bringing out more and more AI he's um he then says that to overcome AI um making humans obsolete humans must be fused with AI and and uh fused with artificial intelligence so let's have a look at that okay hard cell abuse humans with artificial intelligence hive mind uh Soft

Cell well you know it could be dangerous it could be The end of humanity but you know we if we're going to survive we got to fuse humans with artificial intelligence and and and and because they they've built U musk into this um free speech hero he's not let me come to that in a second um he is is given a free ride on all this and people say oh yeah you can trust Elon well you can't do you know um these are official figures the Prem musk uh Twitter was uh taking down content 50%

of the time when governments and Authorities and courts demanded it under musk Twitter X that content is taken down 80% of the time and what this see it's all a perceptual game so what's happening is you'll pick a fight with a country like Brazil at the moment right and people go see he's standing up for free speech but quietly in the background he's taking down content uh uh all the time um he he had a spat another oh free look he's standing up for free speech he had a spat with the Australian government and what

the Australian government uh said to him is we want this the video of this um this this this preacher who was stabbed on video to um to be taken down and he took it down in Australia immediately but they said no we want it taken down worldwide and he said I'm not going to take it down worldwide and that was another spat or he's standing up for free speech but what it turns out is that he has taken down globally content Demanded by the Australian government before in the six months to um March of this

year uh Twitter X took down 40,000 pieces of content demanded by um the EU globally not just in the EU globally so there's a story going on in the background quietly and there's a story going on for public consumption and uh we we've really uh got to start um realizing that um there's a scop going on here and uh it's it's all right saying you know or Free Speech well hold On a minute let's just talk about that what's what's happening and and and YouTube have just started moving into this Arena interestingly it's like it's

the new censorship fewer people are outright back but if you're saying the wrong thing then no one ever sees it or virtually no one so much Shadow Banning Shadow Banning so um this is this is actually being articulated by Linda Yaro who is the CEO of Twitter X and a close associate of the world economic forum and Cloud Schwab that's just the person you want to pick isn't it Elon um and she's talked about Free Speech but not reach speech but not reach yeah that's a better way to hide it because if you're actually fully

shut down you can say that will get out somehow but if you don't realize that it's not reaching people you don't really say anything exactly you know the number of people I I've got 663 th000 followers in my Twitter X page and the number of times people say I never see your post mate oh yeah right what same for me I mean I had a friend reach you know say something not long ago that was like I realized I hadn't seen your stuff in a while and sure enough you've been shadowbanned and I was like

huh fun exactly that's exactly what's going on and and uh she talks about lawful but awful so what who who Decides if something's well it's lawful but who decides if it's awful well they do and so what what you've seen I I've watched this I mean you know I'm I'm on the case every waking minute I've watched this happen th this center of the alternative media that's that's created this barricade of myopic focus on only politics they massive um algorithmic support and others wonderful people who are um on the out side of that barricade Brigade

and are open to To uh a greater sense of what's going on they don't get that support uh and of course the person that gets most algorithmic support on Twitter X is musk and he's posting like machine gun fire which means he's he's obviously not doing them all to say the least you're absolutely right there's a lot of postings happening and and um and he's always at the top of your feet yeah but but what you said yeah exactly but this is this is the point he's the king maker You see I talk about this

in the in the reveal he's the king maker because if he reposts something by someone automatically the algorithms will give that someone in tens of millions of views sometimes um and so by by targeting who he reposts he's manipulating the um the information that people receive and yeah your algorithm attention on particular people and you know I I I I said in a in a post Recently react responding to something that he posted obviously he didn't get many uh views compared with him uh to say the least because it's shadowband but um anything you say

about him that's negative is Shadow band but I I was pointing out he was he was saying oh you know the the the when this Zuckerberg thing broke he said oh yeah Zuckerberg he was uh manipulating the election by you know through Facebook and all this stuff they admitted it right that was Yeah yeah then you say why is he's just admitted it you know but but uh which is another story but the the point I made was well hold on mate Mr musk but you're manipulating this election because um you are uh favoring massively

on X Donald Trump um I mean I I I I've got no brief for camer Harris I mean I mean oh me me God are you kidding I've got no brief for Trump either but I for either of them but but if you're if you're taking this literally and you're taking This balance literally then he's using X to support Trump and the algorithms are supporting Trump he post negatively about Harris he posts positively all the time about Trump now he's saying well you know America's finished without Trump coming in and all this what about this

hey what about this how about this for an idea that we just let people post the algorithms are equal and no one's shadowbanned no one's boosted and people just make their minds Up what they want to believe on the basis of what they see how about that for a for an idea it's way too simple and not nearly manipulative enough no it's not they're not interested in that because they have their their team to support and um so this is what we're we're we're we're dealing with and you know if we stay with musk for

a second and I could talk about him for hours really given the research I've done on him but um he's got these companies and One of them is SpaceX and uh if you look at the background to SpaceX um he went on a um a trip to Russia with a uh CIA operative called Michael Griffin and and bizarre as it may sound um the idea was to buy uh intercontinental ballistic missiles from the Russians uh it the deal didn't work out and on the way back um musk is reported uh by Griffin to have said

that he's going to start SpaceX and he offered um Griffin this CIA guy um the um a major job in the company but instead of that Griffin was offered a job which he took as head of inel inel is the um cia's uh technological development arm it seed funds companies and startups to produce technology that that benefit the CIA and its surveillance and control systems right in qel Michael Griffin later moved from inel to become head of NASA and at that point NASA started giving big contracts To musk and SpaceX which have gone on ever

since right and Trump has endorsed the space mission for NASA and everything too so another link there this is the thing you see if you look at the Trump thing the number of people in this AI um Arena that are pushing this AI uh agenda gend that have actually um formed around Trump I mean I I've been uh blocked by so many people on Twitter of of many various kinds for um for questioning but uh one of them is guy Called Mark andron who's a a multi-billionaire kind of um internet Silicon Valley AI guy who

I've I mentioned him in the book but I've never mentioned him on Twitter but he just he just bam me and interestingly he he blocked but interestingly he block me at the time that JD Vance was being um uh made the running mate of of of trump and I was pointing out a few things about JD Vance at the time um he is a business associate of a guy called Peter teal Peter teal um is a co-founder of paler Palante produces surveillance and control technology for the Pentagon on for the intelligence community in America and

worldwide um and he's on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group this globalist organization and he's a business uh partner and Associate of JD Vance and he funded JD Vance's political career when He became a a a senator and when they were uh playing around with names uh who's going to be uh Trump's running mate and they listed the names and one of them was JD van I said it's going to be him it was obvious because might have been the only one because I don't feel like his name was on the radar yeah well

Peter teal um was um on the uh transition team for Trump when he when he won the election in 2016 so uh all these people are connected there Peter Te is part of the um so-called uh PayPal Mafia of which Elon Musk is a part he's a an old associate of Elon and um so uh you you then look at another co-founder of palent here providing uh technology for the intelligence community and and uh and what have you the Pentagon and he's on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group alongside um alongside Peter teal so

you've got these people who are are are Central players in a blatantly globalist organization started In 1954 at the Bilderberg hotel in user big Holland that's why got the name it did um but but they're funding and supporting people who on the surface are anti-globalist so what you've got again we come back to this you've got the hard cell easy push back no push back and you've got the Soft Cell and the soft sellers are everywhere uh around Trump for this this whole AI agenda so if we Go back again to um SpaceX SpaceX is

putting up uh because of this um system they call starlink um they're putting up low orbit Satellites by the tens of thousands really the Federal Communications Commission in America has given SpaceX permission already to put up tens of thousands of these low orbit satellites beaming this uh electromagnetic field at the Earth because um this this is what I'm I'm I'm Saying is going on the hive mind and and and this is why I mentioned earlier that what he's doing with neuralink is um is is the stone age compared with what's possible and uh in many

ways what uh musk's role is is not just to produce technology that's Cutting Edge very uh rare that he does that actually compared with what's the underground bases and the secret projects but it's to sell a concept so he's selling the concept of connecting um electronic systems Computer systems and AI to the human brain because the the the real way it's being done I is this and and I've seen some uh some study papers uh this very day that's that's actually another confirmation of it and that is that you've got a a global population and

you want to control them with a hive mind that is centrally controllable so you need um them to individually receive that hive mind and you need a vehicle to Transmit uh directions thoughts perceptions collectively m to to to those receivers so the vehicle is what they call the cloud this is what kurur Wilder Google has been talking about in terms of the um AI connection to the human brain he's talking about being connecting humans to the cloud sure I mean I've had a I've had a service on my phone for a decade now that sends

a frequency that helps you get to a higher Frequency because of the emfs and everything that come off the phone so while we talk you're talking about getting plugged into AI they can affect us from a frequency standpoint without an actual transmitter like inside of the body so I mean I don't know if you ever saw the show westw but the end of that ended with you know showing how they can literally control the masses with frequency and that the tower that's doing it is invisible to the naked eye Unless you get unless you thin

that Veil enough for you change your frequency to be able to see and you're like there it is and they're The Crazy Ones exactly and and that's that's the the whole basis of it so the cloud is the vehicle the electromagnetic cloud is the vehicle for um delivering these frequencies and um this is why they have tried so hard to um have the uh fake covid vaccine uh which is not a vaccine by any Previous criteria infused into every human uh preferably multiple times Well alongside of that came 5G which was definitely a suspicion on

what was implanted inside the body that could then be activated by 5G well that that's the point you see I mean you know during the the covid lockdowns they said only essential work well essential work included putting 5G Towers all over the place and while people were were were locked away in Their homes they were doing it without any challenge what are you doing what are you doing you come out and suddenly there's these 5G Towers uh but not that I was locked away in my home I wouldn't have it I went out whenever I

wanted to uh but the um the the point is these two are absolutely connected so you can um generate this cloud from um from Towers in urban areas and towns and cities yeah you can but if you're going to hit every inch of The planet which is what the game is you got to do it from space and that's what the low orbit satellites are all about I mean SpaceX is by by far the leader in doing it but there are others um as well and and the more they put up and you'll see MK

bragging about uh uh more of these satellites have gone up um on on Twitter x uh and and so uh that's the vehicle through which they want to uh deliver these frequencies of perceptual manipulation and control but the the the Fake covid um jab and now they're moving other vaccines to that system on purpose is um with this in mind just adding you're saying adding ingredients or adding things into that That vaccine what's been found and I i' I've studied this a lot uh you know uh I was contacted by a group called laint columna

in Spain that um was on the case of what's in the fake vials vaccine vials from the from the very early days and um I've I've I've seen the work of Other people too um who've looked at blood um of uh not just fake vaccinated people or that obviously that's worse but also nonvaccinated people who getting it from other sources uh which I I'll come to they are seeing under very very powerful microscopes Electro microscopes electr microscopes rather self-replicating nanotechnology that in their words appears to have a form of Consciousness to to form these systems

that that are building in the blood a Significant number of people their bodies won't be able to cope with that uh transition and uh and and that they're the people who've died and uh and and had their health destroyed for life and then others will will will transition a little bit more easily but the idea is that these self-replicating systems in the body uh are the receivers of the frequency information coming through the cloud now what's Fascinating in in relation to this and was identified by lint columna uh quite a few years ago now um

is a substance in the vials um known as graphine oxide now graphine oxide um is also whistleblowers have have said in Chemtrails so there are other s and and it's in many other things and so there are many other sources of it but this infusion through the the covid fake vaccine is the major one up to this point uh and uh graphine oxide um is a superconductor of Electricity so um when you think that the brain processes information electrically and communicates with the body and the body with it um electrically if you can intervene in

that process you're already changing the perceptions of the of uh of of people uh and the way they process information but it's also graphine oxide a amplifier of electromagnetism in the body so if you are in contact with an Electromagnetic field the impact of that field on the body will be much greater with um graphine oxide iner than if you didn't uh and and this is the connection that they're working on and interestingly you know um this neuralink of musk uh where they take a bit of the skull away and then put wires on the

brain and stuff it's the Stone Age but it's selling a concept and interestingly he was asked uh in an interview uh but how many people are Going to want to have a bit of their skull taken away for this stuff um and he said oh well you might not have to do it that way you could do it through the vein yeah like like they all with the covid fake vaccine I mean they put vaccines in food now they found a way to put the put it in lettuce and tomatoes and exactly and and the

thing is that um what happens when they don't have to divulge it when when they don't have to disclose it within the within the Packaging like what happens when that happens yeah well um you know we we we've been consuming an enormous amount of absolute crap for a very long time but we've seen nothing yet with with the the scale of technological manipulation that we're seeing now because this is the this is the point I've been calling the body a biological computer since the 1990s people think bio biological means natural not necessarily and I'll tell

you what what these people um see Biological as they see it as a form of technology and if you look at um papers by madna talking about their fake vaccine they describe uh the body and they describe um their uh fake vaccine as like an operating system they they know that the body is a biological computer and they treat it as such and and a as a biological computer it can be manipulated as comp computers could be manipulated to process information in a different way and what you can do is Control the information that is

processed that's the censorship and where we uh we are now and where we've been but you go to the next level and you are literally changing the way the brain processes information from within uh and indeed from without through this Cloud so this is is where it's going and and the reason I I spend so much time calling out musk is because he's fundamental in this sales pitch to those that actually don't want this WOW but But what but what this is the thing this one of the great manipulative um techniques is to sell the

idea of inevitability because um if if you think something's inevitable then you move from having it to well how can we mitigate its impact sure right and so that's that's where uh musk and this this crowd uh around Peter teal are going to to to sell the idea it's inevitable and therefore we've got to mitigate its Impact and and that's the Soft Cell to the same end do you think that we then are here to evolve because the question would be then if you do maybe we're enough maybe maybe our Consciousness and our potential that

is somewhat largely untapped maybe there's nothing to do maybe the evolution maybe there's nothing to do but if we are here to evolve if we are here to get off planet to be able to repopulate somewhere else what happens I mean you know I've spoken To Randall Carlson and other people who talk about how how like how many things are coming at this planet from asteroids to destroy us like the inevitability of Destruction is there so then how do we evolve what is that next step because I think this stuff is frightening I think that

I think Consciousness is the is the is the pure potentiality and that when you tap into a system you are now limited by only the system which doesn't tap into the field of potentiality so I'm on board with that but what is the next step how do we evolve as humans if that is our goal where do we go what do we do what do we become well we've already gone into levels that the mainstream alternative media doesn't deal with very much but let's now go into levels it doesn't deal with at all um the

the levels where the answers lie as well as the true scale of human control are we here to evolve no it's a trap um let's look at what the ey Is what we're led to believe and encouraged to believe is that the human body and the labels of the human body is the eye um this is who I am no it's what you're experiencing what you are is consciousness the having that experience yeah um but why are you having the experience look around the world anyone think that that humans are evolving really some are because

they've become Conscious beyond the program but most people are still stuck in the program look through known human history and and and and and see the the constant common themes that never change like the vast majority look to uh the M minority authority to tell them what to do and tell them ancient roome Rome the mob you know it's same but it's the same thing I mean I mean know it may it may have a different uh historical setting and it may have different rhetoric but it's the Same story and and actually that goes on

even when we leave this realm as I'm I I'll come to so my Approach um right all the way through this 35 years has been to know that there's one thing that is unquestionable and that is whatever we think we know at any point there's always more to know so you're constantly asking okay I I I think I get this so what don't I know and what don't I know and what don't I know and what that does Is drive you deeper and deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole instead of walking around the outer

rim of the rabbit hole and calling it sussing The Conspiracy not even started where where that's taken me it took me from around the mid90s the mid 1990s to an understanding and this is all through um res search and experience that I had and people I met and books that I I read yes and documents that I saw uh multiple um sources um pointing in the same Direction we have this Global cult a network a Global Network of secret societies that is driving the direction of human society Way Beyond presidents and prime ministers well you

know when you mentioned presidents and the bushes I mean you know the Skull and Bones and different Secret societ I have been You Know spoken about for some time now yeah and and but but but there there is a a whole web of them which interconnect uh and I've talked about This in uh in in in many interviews and and in great detail in the books what I started to realize as I was researching this in the early 1990s now I'm seeing bombshell information uh new revelation right okay and I'm thinking that was I was

writing about that in about 1995 you know um it's it's a lot of this is long been researched and is now being regurgitated and called um uh the the the latest Revelation and what that's doing of course he's holding the line in This barricade instead of moving on I was looking at the um the way that this Global cult worked but then I started to realize that these famous now billionaire people who were these cultists who were running this cult although the the real people in control are always in the shadows they were taking part

in Satanic ritual um and uh Human Sacrifice ritual and I came across all this in in detail in the 1990s met lots of people that um had taken part in Them often against their will wow um and so um the the question then was what are they doing sacrifice rituals for yeah EXA and then the penny then the pennies start to drop and the dots start to connect you go back to the ancient world and you see that they were doing sacrifice rituals all over the the planet in the different cultures to the gods um

and then there came a point where humans most of them anyway uh reached a point of maturity where they Weren't having that anymore so it went underground and into secrecy what we now call Satanism you you you then start to realize that these Gods actually exist they're not Gods at all bunch of pratts but they're perceived as Gods by these people who worship them who are these gods and you realize that the gods quote that these people today these cultists today many famous uh people are doing these rituals too these sacrificial rituals too are also

uh the same gods That the Ancients were doing rituals to so who are these gods and you know when you you you you really really want to get to the bottom of what's going on you have to research so many different subjects it's no good researching the history of the Republican party or the Democrat Party you've got to you got to go much deeper into the nature of reality itself a a big thing that um I think every child should be uh taught uh at the first Moment they are able to grasp it is that

when you look through your eyes you're into the space that you appear to be looking at you're not seeing everything in that space you're only seeing a tiny tiny band of frequency called visible light and how tiny is that um if you take um the electromagnetic spectrum which is basically um uh human reality experience reality according to mainstream science um that is only .05 % of what exists in the universe in Terms of energy and all its forms and visible light is a fraction a fraction of the 0.05% so first of all why I say

children need to know that at the earliest age possible is because that changes everything now you can understand that there are whole worlds realities that are happening in the same space that you are operating in but in different frequency bands so that you Are not affected by them and you cannot see them you are affected when those frequency bands are very very close and can interact but but the the the the the the higher frequency bands well they're Way Beyond human perception immediately you start to understand how people can see a a or an entity

appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere because what they're not they've not appeared out of nowhere and disappeared into nowhere so that you Know people in Five sense reality go that's ridiculous that's impossible they've entered visible light and to you they have appeared out of nowhere and they've left visible light and to you they've disappeared into nowhere um it's all about uh frequency so suddenly when people have said to me over the years well you say the non-human entities manipulating Human Society where are they then why can't we see them well the answer is

you can hardly see anything Mate they operate outside not far outside actually of human uh perception and so what they're doing with these rituals is they're interacting with these um entities they perceive as their gods I've talked to people who've taken part in these uh ritual who have described how um these entities often reptilian but not um always in nature but absolutely non-human have appeared in these rituals they' that Because of the energetic match environment that has been created by the ritual the the the satanists of today like the the Ancients they do these rituals

in the same place over and over and over again and what this does is thin out the vibrational frequency difference between the two dimensions and makes it easier to to slip into this one orbe it uh uh briefly sure I mean even when you look at ancient places in the world they're Stacked on top of each other positive or negative probably then like churches get you go to ancient Egypt or you go to different places on the planet and they they they build on top of each other like as if that location matters back in

the 1990s I um was invited by the guy who was producing it to go to Canterbury cathedral in England uh a major uh British cathedral which goes way way way way back it's because he was putting on something called a Passion Play it's Basically the Jesus story but but it's played out in cathedrals after the cathedral closed to visitors before the the the Productions died I had free reign of the place and I was walking around and what they were doing at that time is they were Excavating they were doing um repairs and and what

have you and they were Excavating deep in the cathedral uh under the floor and what they found was a pagan site a pagan site on that site yeah and What what happened um during uh the replacement of the the the Pagan belief system to uh to the Christian one while he's one of two things um some people put their churches and their Cathedrals on these Pagan sites because they wanted to suppress the the the Pagan energy and others did it the ones in the know they put it on these sites because they knew they were

they were energetic Vortex sites for sure and what a what what these powerful vortexes do is as they Spin they are basically um thinning out and bringing together um different a different dimensions this one and one right next to it called they call the asteral they're kind of uh they're spinning them into a to to a point where they look quite F but but you know what I mean and that's why they uh they do these um Satanic rituals um at these Vortex points and and for this reason uh churches and Cathedrals across the world

are built on these point points wow um And and this is this is the reason that that that um uh satanists do so much of their uh horrific uh ritual uh in relation to church yards and churches and stuff uh it's because what are these rituals I'm I'm curious what you've heard firsthand from people right well um this this will um uh this will explain a lot um one of the things that I realized just after the turn of the Millennium is that this reality is Actually a simulation it's a uh a incredibly Advanced version

of um a virtual reality game and I I got that download myself in an experience I uh I was sort of shown in a cybin experience that like I went so far away that the way I had to come back the first construct that I had to agree to was the mind that was The Matrix yeah and I had to buy in I had to forget and I had to buy in that is um uh something I go into in the reveal some detail uh quoting People who've um had the experience that you you talk

about and and other experiences relating to that uh so I realize this is a stimulation and you know I can talk about how it works it's it's very simple to explain how it Works let's finish up with that because I think the real ending is like what do you do so I'd love for you at the end to explain what the Matrix is and how we do it so but after yeah the question was why the Simulation why why would they create a simulation to to Hoodwink um our perception of the very reality we're experiencing

why would they do that what's the point and this this relates to what I've just been saying about the rituals and why they do do them it's the same thing there's two types of of of Consciousness if you like projection or experience um that leaves the body there's what they call near-death experiences where the body Dies and and you find yourself in another reality and there's with the body still alive the ability to project your Consciousness into this astral Dimension that interpenetrates this one like like radio stations uh and TV stations one of the people

that popularized these out of body experiences was a guy called Robert Monroe and uh he became very skilled at it and to such an extent that the CIA got interested and together a group People that could uh project their Consciousness in this way into the astral and and perceive and and experien the astral as a result and along with Monroe and they called it the Gateway process or the Gateway project is this remote viewing is this some of this the remote viewing stuff CIA used it's beyond remote viewing actually and interestingly what they found was

they they developed this uh Monroe developed this concept of what he called hemisync Or hemisphere of the brain synchronization that if you could synchronize the two hemispheres of the brain uh it into a a uh coherent frequency then it was possible to to project your Consciousness out into the asteral well first of all um in this Gateway project and this has come from uh military sources that um that were involved in it they saw so many reptilian entities in the astral these uh people taking part in this Gateway Project um that they gave them the

name of the alligators in the project have you seen any Alligators uh and the other thing that uh Robert Monroe said he learned in his astral travels was that um there are entities in the astral which are feeding off low vibrational human emotional and mental uh energy frequencies uh it's long been known by mainstream science that every time we feel an emotion or have a thought we Generate and project a frequency which relates to the nature of the thought or the emotion sure and these these entities by their very nature are in a very low

vibrational State and have no interest whatsoever in um in in joy and happiness and peace uh and love because those frequencies are high frequencies and they can't absorb them because what he what he learned and and I've by the time I I his stuff I'd got this from many Other sources before confirmation is that these entities are feeding of as a an an energetic sustenance Source human low vibrational emotion which which um has to be low vibrational because that's the the frequency band they operate in right right when you think about frequency in any frequency

in any way you know that the higher the frequency the Le the low just doesn't resonate with it at all it shatters glass like it's well exactly And and so um these entities have created this and it goes beyond these entities actually that's another story another time but um they have created this uh quote Matrix this simulation to um to manipulate events perceptions perceptions of events perceptions of of of experience so that it generates this low vibrational energy which they feed off Now what I realized um in these sacrificial rituals because you you you you're

asking the question obviously youve got to keep asking questions all the time yeah with with without any belief system to to to sensor you oh I can't go there and my belief system will be wrong if I go there no ask the question these sacrifices to the gods okay so what are the gods get out of it and and and it's exactly what I'm describing what's happening in these Sacrificial rituals is they're they're designed purposely to build up maximum Terror in the victim and and and and and as this terror is generated by the victim

this very intense powerful low vibrational energy these entities um in the in the in the astral are are feeding off that energy because you know um if someone's having an emotional experience an emotional reaction or they're thinking something you can see the body language especially emotion you Can see the body language some of us wear it on our face some of us some of some of our energies are very strong and it's very easy to sense so absolutely we can all relate to that but what you can't see are the frequencies coming off people because

that's that's an astral phenomenon that's going into the astral those uh low vibrational frequencies and therefore there these these entities the Gods in the asteral are feeding off this uh this this energy and at the same time When um when when the terror reaches a certain level a massive infusion of adrenaline goes into the blood and these these uh satanists conducting the ritual in our reality then drink the blood this is where adren all this stuff comes from yeah it's usually with children right yeah it's usually with children I mean when they talked about sacrificing

young virgins to the gods that's just um code for children uh there's why why why children well Because there's a you know when when when uh children go through puberty we um see that in this human reality as a chemical transition a chemical transformation we call it your puberty uh that chemical transformation like everything in um in our human reality is an expression of a vibrational transformation and these uh um entities want that energy before that transformation I mean of course they can Take energy from from from adults of course they do but I mean

that's a nectar to them that's that's the ideal for them uh uh that they want that uh prepubescent energy um of children uh and so and there's there's there's many other reasons for it as well but that's one of them so so I'm clear so the sacrifice is to attract the god the the energy that they want to come into the space and then the the consumption of the blood of the adrenal Chrome from the Ad adrenaline going into the blood is then what's consumed by the group that's there yeah but yeah that that's the

difference but they both both both are the result of Terror which they generate in the ritual yeah and know this is what I say to people you know it's been very difficult to get over and I don't understand it because most people don't come across this stuff in everyday life no but it's very difficult to get across to people the scale of Pure Evil that We're dealing with and I call evil the the the absence of Love uh and these people have these entities have no interest in love it's not not it's not an energy

that they can they can absorb because they're they're way out of the frequency of that you have this Matrix set up to generate this energy that's why you know look through human history it's war and suffering hunger and oh dear I'm wondering how this makes them more powerful what does this how does This make those those those people more powerful well it it empowers them energetically what what you know what you know what I talked earlier about uh politics is about getting uh the collective uh Humanity to give its power away to an individual or

a few to to dictate events for the next four years five years in some countries well it's the same thing they are leeching vampiring your energy and it's empowering them and then they recycle That back against you in terms of of control and what they uh what they do when I uh was looking at this um this simulated reality obviously I wanted to know how it worked what what makes it easier to um explain is that this incredible um technological Revolution AI Revolution that's going on computer Revolution is actually technologically mimicking the very way we

create the Simulation and interact with it so it's you've got the tools now I mean you know my heart goes out to the Chans of the past and people like that who may have got this stuff by their um their astral uh travels or whatever and then then trying to explain it to a uh I mean how do you explain this stuff to right culture that knows nothing about any of this stuff so it's so true so what what they were doing was using analogies that related to the culture of The time and uh anthropologists

and historians go along and they uh they then take it bloody literally and uh think that these people were primitive but actually they were symbolically describing something which we now can very closely describe very accurately so uh okay what the simulation is is not a construct it's an information field uh it's akin to a WiFi field we Interact with it through the human body the biological computer and we lock into it via the five sensor so if you look at a Wi-Fi field and a computer uh the Wi-Fi field contains all the information the computer

locks in to that part of it that it is keyed to uh connect with and then it decodes that um information field into what we see on the screen and what we see on the screen is absolutely nothing like that Information uh in in the Wi-Fi field in the formats in the Wi-Fi field right it's been decoded right and so when you say to people tell me about the internet and they say uh well it's um it's videos and and texts and stuff and all the rest of it well yes it is but the only

place it exists in that form is on the screen oh yeah and then think about a telephone it's not like the words are travel I mean you talk on a telephone that's just Vibration just vibration it's vibration well this is interesting um it's vibration that that is turned into an electrical signal well that is exactly what we're doing if you look at a headset a uh virtual reality headset that's basically what the body is doing the body is decoding the simulation so um if you go on to the Internet and you look at these compilations

of people who've put the headset on and you see that their sense of reality is transformed almost immediately they might be in an empty room they might be in a room with a few friends but it's a it's a room they're used to right well it's a fully embodied experience for me it's when you have a fully embodied experience whether it's through plant medicine or an emotion or something significant that happens in Your life fully embodied you you can't unknow it but if you if you look at at what these headsets if you um look

what they're doing they're tapping into the five senses that they're they're tapping into the sight senses the the sound senses and all that stuff and they are overriding the normal reality that we uh would experience and they're falling off their chairs they're screaming they're shouting because their sense of reality has been overridden sure they have an Emotion and they send the frequency it's a whole thing yeah overridden in seconds they can take the headset off and and realize it's just a game but if your headset your decoding mechanism is your very biological computer body then

you can't take it off short of either dying the body dying not you or projecting your Consciousness into the astral otherwise what's happening is the computer is decoding the white I field the Simulation into the reality that we think we're experiencing which is nothing like what we're actually experiencing so again if you go back to that vibration electrical signal if you uh look at what mainstream science talks about in terms of how the five senses work they're picking up frequency information and they're turning it into electrical information which they communicate to the brain and the

Brain then forms it into what I I say and many Others say who've studied this into a digital holographic form which um is basically a a 3D holographic version of a a computer screen and that's what we um are experiencing as an external reality when actually it's in here that it's going on just as if you look at a computer you're observing the screen from outside okay but the decoding is going on inside the reality actually is inside and you're only seeing uh an external uh screen vision of it what Happens in what we call

death is uh that the biological computer ceases to function so the soon as you enter this reality you are experiencing through the body the body decoding system is delivering to you a reality that is not nothing like actually it really is within this band of frequency in terms of sight sense called visible light and while you're in the body and you're going through uh life it's continuing to deliver that reality that Simulation reality your parents have got headsets on your your your your your teachers your professors your mates the news readers journalists politicians uh work

mates they've all got headsets on and they're all decoding basically the same reality basic reality they perceive in a different way depending on them but their basic reality is the same and so everyone's confirming to everyone else that all this is real and it's not it's it's a a decoded illusion what I call an Induced dream and so when you leave when when your body ceases to function death it ceases to decod the simulation at which point you find yourself in another reality why because focus of attention is the move what we call death is

only a transfer of attention that's all it is of our Consciousness but then the next question I had was okay I can understand why Consciousness might be tricked into this simulation once but you've only got to Travel around the world I've been to a 60 odd country countes um not most of them in the last um 35 years but I can't go to many now because um I'm banned from loads of them but yeah oh yeah I'm banned from 30 nearly 30 European countries and Australia plus a lot more if I try to get in

them um it must be something I'm saying I do hope so funly enough all those people in the in the center of the the big names in the uh alternative media they can travel Anywhere and they're they're still on YouTube and I was off YouTube in 2020 when I in ail ail 2020 when I exposed the covid hoax and um and what have you so the list is still clean so you know I must be saying something uh different to them uh to to cause me to have all these um uh deletions and bands where

when they don't have them H and and we're we're getting into this whole Arena now of of of what that information is right so I I I I traveled around the world and The vast majority of people in this world are not having a good time they're having a very bloody hard time they're trying to survive another day um and so um the question I had was I can understand Consciousness being tricked manipulated into entering this reality but why did they come back because by this time it was obvious to me that reincarnation was real

I go into this in in detail in um in the reveal um you know when you you see the evidence Of um young kids who have um described previous lives that they could never have known about in locations they could never have known about with people they could never have known about and and when they I mean that's essentially the story of the Buddha too that's how they found yeah but when they've been when they've been checked out um the stories they've found to be incredibly accurate in detail yeah there's a story that I tell

in the Um in the reveal where there was a um a psychiatrist an American Canadian psychiatrist called Ian Stevenson who came across some of this stuff and then made it a life's work basically and he uh studied thousands and thousands of these reports and um then went and checked them out and what he was trying to do was debunk them not not because he wanted to debunk them but that was his Focus I'm going to do everything I can To debunk this to see if it up to scrutiny and he found extraordinary correlations between what

small kids were saying about lives in locations they had no experience of whatsoever there was one uh boy who um said that U he was married to this lady who was still alive in this other place and so they went over to uh to check all this out and um the and he said the the boy was talking to the the the the quote former wife as if she was still his wife And then the the the wife said um we never found your will if you're who you said you say you are we never

found your will where's the will and he went over to a to a a floorboard in the kitchen and pointed at it and they took the floorboard up and there was the will you know so so and and this so many of these stories it's it's it's clear to me that reincarnation is real but what I didn't buy going back come back yeah what I didn't Buy like I say some something you mentioned earlier is that we come here to to evolve and learn lessons I think that's total TSH tell me what lessons the uh

the kids in Gaza are currently learning it's ludicrous oh I I I've been um I've been cut up by a serial killer and I've been left in a fridge oh it's a great lesson I I'm really fantastic you know it's ludicrous what what all these things do is produce enormous fantastic amounts of what um uh what Robert Monroe Called Louch I.E this low vibrational emotional mental energy that's what is happening all around us all the time in conflict and War and suffering and bombing and hunger and Desperation um and and that that's that's the reason

to produce this bloody energy is not to evolve I started looking at near death experiences and there uh well I i' I've watched and read enormous numbers of these near-death experience accounts and they are very Very common in theme what I found interesting uh and is is talking to people who remember the Incarnation process and again they're very common in what they say uh who somehow have not had the Mind wiped like everyone else does as part of coming into the Matrix because when you come into this field you have to have your mind white

because then you start with a blank sheet of paper you're bloody clueless you don't know who you are where you are what That's the idea um because because if you were having life after life and you remembered it while you were experiencing a human life you'd know what was Bloody going on right right so um one of the things that I found interesting is when people are talking about this astral dimension they talk about it in in in like physical terms it's it's not the dense physicality that we have but there it's a form of

physicality and also how the Incarnation process is is very technological I go into this in the book and quote people who who um who describe this and and one of them talks about how she remembers coming into this reality and passing through a electromagnetic field that was as she entered like the density of it the the coming down the density of that the the physical experience of that yeah the density of this reality the human reality um is described in terms of Being almost impossible to um experience it's I've heard that too but also that

um the this this this lady was talking about about how she passed through this um electromagnetic field that is designed to wipe your mind as you come in it's it's like remember those old um those old tapes where you used to rub them over a electromagnetic magnet and and they it would wipe them and you could use them again that that kind of principle when um people were talking About when they left the body in a near death experience they described how it was just amazing like nothing they'd ever experienced before there was a bliss

a love I'd never experienced before and you go well hold on a minute you obviously believe in reincarnation oh yeah yeah believe so why haven't you what do you mean you've not experienced it before you must have experienced it loads and loads of times but because of the Mind wipe when You leave the body that mind wipe is still in place and they want you up this tunnel with a light at the end or or a light or however it symbolized and of course we are we are told in the the world of human uh

uh to uh relate the light to to God um and so when we leave you go to the light and uh and you're in the wheel of samsara as the budhist talk about um The Reincarnation cycle and you come back here in another form with a different uh uh personality Program and the whole thing keeps uh happening and and for me if we talk about uh what we can do about this and you know this is the level we need to talk about not not whether Trump or Harris is going to be president uh and

you're going to have the hard cell or the soft sell to the same end um this is this is the key to human uh Freedom or Consciousness freedom in what we call human uh for me there's three levels um that um That that that are very different first of all there's the human body which allows us to interact with this dense human reality frequency band um our Consciousness is vibrating so fast that you know if if it was just Consciousness and Consciousness Alone um I couldn't tap these keys because they they they they're different frequency

so we take on this outer shell of the same frequency band that we want to interact with and then I can tap the Keys but my Consciousness is what is experiencing that so then you leave the body and you enter this astral realm now this astral realm um also requires an outer shell to interact with uh uh so that the two can interact and uh I say that's what we call the soul and so this uh conspiratorial um Matrix Group would like you just to believe that there's no life after death and we're just a

a Cosmic accident you know and that's the end of it that's what they'd like you to believe ideally but they know that most people won't and and and so religion talks about a soul and what have you and in many ways that's preparing you for that for the the wheel of samsara um so they're not really bothered if you believe you have a soul because that's still in The Matrix because this is this astral level is part of this simulation it's what people Call the spirit world or the the um the afterlife and what have

you but it's still in the Matrix and I go into this in detail in the reveal there's another level of self-identity that's what it is self-identity in the end which is what I call Spirit where you um identify with being pure Consciousness a state of being aware pure awareness no form no um no body no any of this stuff but pure Consciousness and the difference between the frequency that you uh operate at in A human body that believes the five sense world is real and the level that you um experience at a soul level in

the astral afterlife and the frequency you operate at with a a um a self identity of being pure Consciousness very different completely different yeah first two frequencies will keep you in The Matrix right will keep you here one will keep you in the astral so you come back here the other will will take you way Out and and and and to hell with all this nonsense it's over I I mentioned earlier that if you look back through history there's constant common theme where the many look to the few to tell them what to think and

tell them what to do so common when if they just um collectively refuse to do that then the few have no power at all but it's the same if you look at the dynamic between the uh Human Experience and the astral experience they're the Same in this sense the astral is obviously a lot less dense that's why it feels like heaven lot compar with this but it's a lot less dense yes but the dynamic is the same so most people in the human life are looking to authority to tell them what to think they're looking

to experts doctors scientists tell me what to think right and then when you you leave the body not least because this mind wipe is still in place you listen to these Near-death experiences and and and when they leave the body they they they find themselves with Spirit guides or religious Heroes if you're Christian you'll see Jesus if you're a Muslim you'll see some Islamic hero and wh you and so on and so forth you might see um uh loved ones um I go into what they really are in in the uh r de um and

and and basically because you're in a state of confusion mind wipe um you follow them and one of the um common common Common themes of near-death experience accounts is the Life review where they say they that they watch their life played back to them while elders elders you know wise men with beards and yeah um kind of went through their life with them right um and you know you hear near-death experiences all the time saying there's no judgment in the afterlife well hold on a minute I've been listening I've been listening reading to what you

said happened and They're bloody total judgment what they do right that's a a different level though that's to me that's a different level they're getting you to judge yourself the point I'm making however is that as in the human body people look to authority figures to tell them what to think and what to do what to believe in the astral the same process goes on on a more tricky level because it's with the shaman or it's with your father or with the you know loved one all that stuff And I explain I explained in the

in the reveal how they how how they do this the whole simulation is run by AI an AI on a level that is Way Beyond even what we see in the public Arena today um and a lot of this astral AI is is is what's coming into the human frequency band uh and and transforming it and um and turning it into a complete AI Control System the point the point is though that you can you can get out of all this so long as you change your self identity From the identities they give you here

it's so you're just a human and you know you're the labels of a human life that's who you are and um or you're subordinate to some judgmental God who loves you or in the astral oh well you're here to learn lessons and oh yes oh you've got your karma and know you're going to go back and pay back your karma and all this stuff it's nonsense you know the thing is um it's not a little bit bloody nonsense it's all nonsense the whole Thing is a bloody trick the way out then and and and we

um have the capacity to um to leave the track so long as we leave the perceptual states that they Infuse into us and look at look at a look at a Maverick what happens to Mavericks in in a in a human life um they are marginalized that strange they're dangerous they're ridiculed yeah because they are the ones that have started to see it that's why they act differently To the program that everyone else acts out right and the whole thing is to is to control perception absolutely the stadium in which human control and astral control

is played out is control of perception and that we to take it back and we can um but if we you know got to stop falling for belief systems right so what's your what's your advice then for people to be able to have more autonomy of their reality and be able to ship their perception and have the Opportunity to live a life that is not in that negative downward spiral of frequency where you're being siphoned by outside entities but where you get over that hump where you start to spiral in a more positive POS higher

frequency Direction what is the first big step that everyone should take well I think there's one big step self-identity that's it you know I I've I've I've seen all the gurus and the the new age teachers and people like that um and and A lot of them tend to complicate things and make it sound complicated you go on a quest or you do this and you drink green tea I've got nothing no I can't stand green tea but um I've got no problem with people to do that what I'm saying is it's it's much simpler

than self-identity if you identify with the labels of a human life um that are given to you then you identifying with limitation immediately you you're you're you're you're identifying with the realm Of the five senses uh the illusory physical the holographic realm in which virtually everything seems impossible because of the perceiv pH physicality if you perceive that you are still still under the uh control of uh these afterlife uh entities helping you to evolve well you are identifying with another level of the Trap if you and you can do it in a human body you

can do it any time you can do it now if you want you move your Self identity from the labels of a human life you even move them from from from the idea of Soul the Incarnate soul and you you start to not conceptually that's just an intellectual exercise you perceive yourself to be and the more you do that the more it ingrains into you and integrates into you you perceive yourself to be just Consciousness all Consciousness a a a a a unique a unique expression of infinite Possibility that is pure Consciousness pure your awareness

everything else is just an experience for that Consciousness it's not you it's not real it's what you're experiencing uh and and and and that takes you into uh what what it does is it starts to remove you from the the drama yeah if you you if you look at what keeps you in the matrix it's drama I mean this is how I've always looked at Politics I'm like oh it's just it's just like get the popcorn and watch man it's just it's just distraction or like you look at television at night and you see people

standing on stage with ridiculous costumes on and you're just like oh my God this is just a distraction that's exactly right you know what happens is instead of being an actor on the stage you're in the audience just observing it yeah you step back it doesn't mean you don't do what you can my goodness me I Can't be accused of not doing that but but you you're you become the Observer and and I'll finish on this but um you know there's two types of dream because I say this is an induced dream there's two types

of dream there's the dream which you believe is real and that pulls you in emotionally mentally you can wake up in in a sweat and say about but there's another kind of dream I call it lucid dream do they call it um that um where you know it's a dream you're Having a dream but you know it's a dream and and and you're observing the dream you're not caught in it yeah and you're not emotionally um affected by it and you're not mentally affected by it you wake up you say I've had a very Vivid

dream which I knew was a dream when I was having it and and and what happens is is when you you move out of this myopia of self-identity and this myopia of perceiving the world and you start to expand your self Identity then what you doing uh as As a matter of course is you are as your self identity expands you're expanding deeper and deeper and deeper into this um infinite uh Realm Of Consciousness so you're seeing things you're understanding things you're getting insights that you know you never were there yeah like with this tiny

little tiny little focal point you widen it out I I I think that's incredible advice and I think for myself that's been one of The most um helpful tools TOS as well and it's not because I set out to do that but as a byproduct of work I realized that I could get above the situation almost like you become more seated in the Consciousness as opposed to an like a non-player character essentially like in it I call it in it if you can just get above it and see it as just things happening then you

don't get the charge and you don't you don't send that energy charge off that they're Looking for you to do with the drama and with everything that pulls you down you're above it your frequency stays high and essentially you can then have a have an existence that feels much much more peaceful exactly uh years ago I when I was a journalist I used to wake up in the morning and uh put the radio on listen to what the latest news was and I'd often fall back to sleep and um I would have vivid dreams yeah

and when I woke up the Vivid dream Related to the story being run on the radio oh wow yeah well they they there's programming you're you're always awake but the point is that was an induced dream it was an induced dream induced by information yeah that I was getting Yeah clean up your environment that's what the Matrix is it's an induced dream and we don't have to believe it's real because if we do the Matrix has you that's right wow David thank you so much you're um you've been at this for so Very long as

you say 35 years and uh I'm grateful for that and I'm glad that over time especially in the more recent handful of years that people like you that have been brave and have and have stood the course are not looked at as being quite so crazy but absolutely informational and at the very least just opening people's minds up to another way of thinking and how we just live to be happier that's my ultimate goal so thank you thank you and I I would just say This to people finally um if if if a world that's

utterly insane doesn't see you as crazy it's time to ask why yeah well there's been a lot of crazy things that have happened lately so appropriate to say thank you thank you bye thanks everybody for listening to the pretty intense podcast today I hope you enjoyed it if you like what you heard today and you want to hear more please click on the Subscribe button