From the previous video, I got yet another taste of how the governing body and Jehovah's Witnesses deceive. It is an art and they are skilled at it. I hate to include the members, but the reality is that programmed members are tools that the governing body unleashes on people as they go doortodoor recruiting more people to be trained and programmed into instruments of deception.
In fairness to the members, unlike the governing body, I do not believe their intent is to deceive, but to present what they sincerely believe to be true. having themselves been deceived, but sadly in doing so they end up deceiving others. In the last video, I commented on Jeffrey Jackson's lie under oath at the Australian Royal Commission.
At least three supposed Jehovah's Witnesses commented that I am the one being dishonest by twisting Jackson's words and leaving out a critical part of his response. First, let me show you the portion of the clip that I featured after which you will see the portion I did not include. The part they are calling me out about claiming I am the one who is being dishonest.
Interesting. >> And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokes people on earth? uh that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to to say that uh we are the only spokesperson that God is using.
>> So that is what I showed and commented on. Then I received an email from a current Jehovah's Witness who went into further details attempting to make me believe that I am the one being dishonest. And yes, gaslighting is one of the tools they use.
Let's examine their craft of deception by presenting the email I received verbatim. I will then respond in two parts addressing two subjects of deception, showing you exactly how they do it. Please fasten your seat belts for this trip.
It has been a while since I've watched any of your videos. I watched video 1,373 and it did not surprise me to see you misrepresent and misinform your audience as you always do. Jeffrey Jackson did not lie at all.
He actually answered the question that Mr Stewart had asked him. You create a straw man argument in this presentation and for some reason only known to you, you did not disclose why you misrepresented the question that was asked of Jeffrey. In the video, you quote from the December 15th, 1981.
December 15, 2007, November 15, 2009, and November 2016 study edition Watchtower. None of those articles quoted have any connection with the actual question that Jeffree was asked. Just to remind you of what you did say, >> I would like to ask him if he had any honesty at all when he swore on the Bible and under oath and that it would be presumptuous for the governing body to claim that they are the only channel that God is using.
>> Notice the words in all capitals. That is not what was asked of Jeffrey. Even if that is what Mr Steuart intended to ask.
He still did not ask that. For some reason, only known to you, you have replaced what was actually asked with the words the only channel. I also have to ask why you did not finish what Jeffrey said as he explains his statement.
>> Uh that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to to say that uh we are the only spokesperson that God is using. Does the governing body or do the members of the governing body um do you see yourselves as modern-day disciples, the modern day equivalent of Jesus's disciples? >> Uh we certainly hope to follow Jesus and be his disciples.
Uh that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to to say that uh we are the only spokesperson that God is using. uh the clear the scriptures clearly show uh that uh someone can act in harmony with God's spirit in uh giving comfort and help in the congregations. >> The rest of his reply goes back to clarify an earlier point that was made two pages back in the transcript.
But uh if I could just clarify a little going back to Matthew 24 uh clearly Jesus said that in the last days and Jehovah's Witnesses believe these are the last days there would be a slave a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food. So in that respect uh we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role. What was asked is >> and do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokes people on earth?
>> Jeffrey said >> the scriptures clearly show uh that uh someone can act in harmony with God's spirit in uh giving comfort and help in the congregations. >> What he is saying is that anyone can be a spokesperson for God as long as they use what God has given us the scriptures to give comfort. If Mr Mr Stewart was not satisfied with that reply.
He had the opportunity to ask for clarification, but he did not and went off on a tangent. Now, in your mind, because you did not listen to what was actually said, you think that Mr Stewart asked Jeffrey, "And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's only channel on earth? So, that is what you ran with, looking for supporting evidence to back up your misguided claim.
" This video is an excellent example of how they spin what is said instead of directly addressing the issue. >> If I were easily gaslit, I would be sitting here thinking, "Yikes, I messed up on that one. " I actually did change Mr Stewart's words.
I have to admit it. Mr Stewart said spokespeople and I changed it to channel of communication. That is what I would be saying to myself if I allowed myself to be gaslit.
And if the attempt to gaslight me worked on you, you might be saying, >> "You have to admit it, Winston. He got you. Just admit it.
" >> Not so fast, Dad. Actually, he did not. >> First, I would like to ask the person who sent me that email a question.
Why is it that several Jehovah's Witnesses got upset at Jackson's response and left the organization? Why didn't they see that Jackson answered honestly? I submit to you it is because they realized the truth of what happened which I am going to unveil for you right here, right now.
Mr Stuart, the gentleman asking the questions at the commission, was not sitting across from Mr Jackson at a dinner or a lunch table at a restaurant as someone who does not know what the Watchtower teaches and is trying to understand. Mr Stuart is a lawyer questioning an executive of an organization whose practices were being examined in relation to the sexual abuse of children. Mr Stewart would have done his homework on the governing body, who they are, and what they believe.
His job is to bring out the facts by getting the witness to confirm them instead of being the one to tell the commission. Allow me to give you some examples. >> Mr Jackson, I understand you were born in Queensland, Australia in 1955.
Is that right? >> That is correct. >> And you were baptized as a Jehovah's Witness in Queensland in 1968.
>> That is correct. Uh, and you left school at the age of 15 and commenced pioneering work for the Jehovah's Witnesses in Tasmania. Is that right?
>> Uh, that is correct. >> And in September 2005, you were appointed as a member of the governing body of the Jehovah's Witnesses. >> That is correct.
the year he was born, the year he got baptized, the year he was appointed to the governing body, all already established by a lawyer who clearly researched the witness before he takes the stand. Do you think it was an arbitrary decision to subpoena a member of the governing body to travel from the United States to Australia to answer questions? The question on how the governing body sees itself was a direct attempt to get Jackson to confirm their view of being God's only channel of communication to mankind.
Now, if you are the only channel of communication from God to mankind, is that not being God's spokesperson? And if the channel is a group of men, would that be spokespeople? So the fact that Mr Stewart used the word spokespeople instead of channel of communication is a convenient out that Mr Stewart and the person who emailed me are trying to use.
But Jackson allowed one word to slip into his response that uncovered their semantics game. And that one word is the word only. >> Did I say that?
>> Mr Stewart did not use the word only. But Jackson knowing fully well it was their only channel doctrine that was the target instinctively on impulse slipped in the word only. uh that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to to say that uh we are the only spokesperson that God is using.
>> The Watchtower's own literature clearly uses the terms channel of communication, spokesman, and even mouthpiece interchangeably when describing divine communication. Moses is repeatedly called God's prophet, spokesman, and channel of communication. It is said that God used him as his channel of direction.
Yet, when discussing Aaron, although Aaron also spoke God's words, he is not described as God's spokesman, but specifically as Moses spokesman, even referred to as Moses mouthpiece. This distinction is significant. In fact, in 1958, the Watchtower stated that the scriptures clearly show that God has never used more than one channel or mouthpiece at a time to communicate with men, explicitly pairing those terms as equivalents.
Later when the faithful and discrete slave was identified as all the anointed, the governing body was described as spokesman for the slave class. Not that the governing body alone is identified as the slave, they function as God's spokesman or spokespeople, that is his channel of communication according to the organization's own terminology. Therefore, to argue that substituting channel of communication for spokespeople is dishonest is untenable.
The publications themselves demonstrate that these expressions are used synonymously. >> In the case of Moses, Jehovah gave him a spokesman. Yes, Aaron, his own fleshly brother, was made spokesman for Moses.
Christ Jesus, the greater Moses, is also furnished an earthly spokesman, so to speak, one that is conveniently available on earth in view of Christ Jesus's ascension to God's right hand. That spokesman is a congregation of spirit anointed followers of his, each one bearing to him the relationship of spiritual brethren. I submit to you that Jackson knew Jehovah's witnesses were watching and he could not afford for them to see him completely distance himself from the claim.
So he tried to bring in their appointment as the faithful and discreet slave by making a dishonest reference lying again twice. But uh if I could just clarify a little going back to Matthew 24 uh clearly Jesus said that in the last days and Jehovah's Witnesses believe these are the last days there would be a slave a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food. >> Simply not true.
The very Bible he held in his hand and swore on proves him wrong. proves him a liar. It is one thing to say we interpret Jesus' words to mean something and quite another to say Jesus clearly said.
That is lie number one. Lie number two. >> So in that respect uh we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role.
>> They do not see themselves as trying. They see themselves as directly and specially appointed to that role by Jesus himself, declaring themselves faithful because in their own eyes they have done an excellent job in fulfilling that role, claiming they provide excellent spiritual food and that they have an excellent record in following Jesus Christ, the lamb of God. As a group, the slave class has established an excellent record of following the lamb no matter where he goes.
They are so confident in fulfilling that role to the extent that Jehovah and Jesus trust them completely. They believe and that all Jehovah's Witnesses should do the same. I shouldn't say they believe, I should say they claim because I am not sure they really believe that.
They are so arrogant. They drill into Jehovah's Witnesses, not only that they should be obeyed under any circumstances, even if the instructions do not make sense from a human standpoint, but that they will also be their kings in the new world, ruling them from heaven. >> And what table can we trust?
The table surrounded by our future kings, the governing body. This pretense of humility was carried over from his previous response as hoping to be disciples. They see themselves as right up there with Jesus disciples as members of the 144,000 yet try to paint themselves in public under judicial scrutiny as humble men hoping to fulfill some rules.
Let's not forget they approved the writing of a hymn to get members to sing their praises to Jehovah claiming to be a special possession of God. [music] There are people [music] they love [music and singing] you. So perish the thought that the latter part of Jackson's comment exonerates him from dishonesty.
It reinforces his lies and makes the situation worse. >> Towards the end you quote Matthew 24:23-27 after which you say >> and then I would ask him to reconcile that with his teaching that Jesus returned invisibly in 1914. Does he have any honesty at all in him?
A little later you also make this comment. So the question for all Jehovah's Witnesses who feel confident about their position on the Trinity, what if you are 100% correct on the subject of the Trinity, but you are spreading lies on Jesus, claiming he returned in 1914, claiming he appointed the faithful and discrete slave in 1919, and telling lies on him that he told you to trust the faithful and discreet slave. Again, you misrepresent what we teach.
We do not teach Jesus returned in 1914, but that he is still to come. We teach that his presence as God's appointed king began in 1914 when he focused his royal attention toward the earth. About his return, please note from Bible questions answered, Watchtower 2013, December 1, page 16.
>> What is the purpose of Christ's return? Before Jesus Christ ascended to heaven in 33 CE, he promised to return. He likened himself to a nobleman who went away for a long time and returned with power to rule as king.
The purpose of Jesus's return is to provide mankind with good government. In what form does Christ return? He was resurrected as an invisible spirit person.
Then he went to heaven and sat at God's right hand. Much later, Jesus was brought before Jehovah God, the ancient of days, who granted Jesus power to rule over mankind. So Jesus returns not as a human but as an invisible king.
What will Jesus do when he arrives? When Jesus arrives invisibly with his angels, he will judge mankind. He will destroy wicked people but grant everlasting life to those who accept him as king.
Jesus's rule as king will transform the earth into a paradise. He will resurrect the dead so that they can enjoy life in that earthly paradise. >> So did you get it?
Christ's coming is still future. >> They are skilled at the use of semantics and gaslighting people. Now, the email tries to make me feel that I do not understand what they teach, pretending as if their claims are true.
He said, and I quote, "We do not teach Jesus returned in 1914, but that he is still to come. " Then again, Jesus may also have referred to the Apostle John in a prophetic or pictorial sense, and he may here have foreshadowed the remnant of the body of Christ that has remained until the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ invisibly in 1914. >> This official presence begins with his second coming.
According to the sign that Jesus foretold and also according to certain Bible time measurements, his invisible presence or peruseia began in autumn of 1914 CE. Jesus's disciples alone saw him depart even as only Jehovah's Witnesses recognize his invisible return. >> We do not teach that Jesus returned in 1914.
We are the only ones who teach his invisible return. Only the disciples saw him depart. Depart from where?
Only Jehovah's Witnesses recognize his invisible return. Return to where? They believe they can invent their own language.
And we who do not understand the language are misrepresenting them. Return means become king in heaven. So I am supposedly misleading people by saying they teach he returned in 1914.
His return is not physical but invisible. So I am wrong in saying they teach he returned. He returned invisibly.
So he did not return. They alone recognize his return. So they do not teach that he returned.
Are you confused as yet? And I guess I'm the one who should feel silly. How do these people think it is the art of Jehovah's Witness deception?
It is remarkable that the governing body has convinced an otherwise intelligent man to accept such nonsense. So much so that he feels confident rebutting me, claiming they do not teach what they teach. truly remarkable and I am supposed to feel that I am dishonest for telling you what they teach.
Which brings me to one last point in the email I did not even notice until I prepared this response. >> It is up to you to try and prove that the understanding of 1919 is an outright lie. I have never seen anywhere in any of our publications where it is claimed that Jesus told us to trust the faithful and discrete slave.
Why present statements that are not in any of our publications, framing them as straw man arguments. I do not just make claims. I present receipts.
I've been doing this for 11 years. I show what they say and I presented them in the previous video. both a watchtower article and a statement from the governing body.
>> What does Jesus the fine shepherd tell us to do? He teaches us to make disciples and to trust the faithful and discrete slave. >> We've now discussed three examples of Jesus voice.
Number one, trust the faithful and discrete slave. >> So there you have it. That is a peak into the art of deception used by the governing body and programmed into Jehovah's Witnesses.
They make a false claim, turn it into doctrine, use semantics, change the meaning of words to make it appear true, accuse critics of misunderstanding and misrepresenting their beliefs, and gaslight you into thinking you are the troublemaker. They want you to feel that you are at fault, that you are the one being dishonest. Well, it's not going to work on me and it will not work on you if I expose it and you understand it.
If you are a Jehovah's Witness watching this video, do you now see the lies from the governing body uncovered here and how they are programming you to defend falsehoods confidently using semantics and trying to gaslight critics of the organization. >> Now, if they have any honesty at all, I'd have to say yes. >> Thanks for watching.
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