Graham Stephan vs Odi Productions vs Matt Loberstein vs Iman Gadzhi (BEST BUSINESS MODEL IN 2018)

what's up you guys it's Graham here and in this video no no no no he's got to be what's up you guys it's Graham here oh well thank you guys it's Graham here and today we have a very unique video here compliments by the way of the montage hotel in Beverly Hills for hooking it up with his insane room we got a full restaurant here in the background how praise just you got to hit the like button just for the restaurant in the background but we got a really unique set of people today and different

skills I'm in real estate we got social media marketing affiliate marketing and Amazon FBA so we're gonna be discussing which one is the best which spoiler alert is real estate right now we're gonna be discussing which is the best which options that you might want to look into and a little bit about each business so for those that don't know me I think we're all gonna be posting these on our channels for those who don't know me I started it off as a real estate agent to a real estate investor and I make youtube videos

but I'm in real estate I'll let you discuss what you do my name is Eman eighteen years old all the way from London and I do social media marketing my name is Odie I go by Odie our productions on YouTube I basically talked about affiliate marketing I also teach affiliate marketing yeah that's it my name is matt lo Burstein i've been doing amazon FBA for almost four years now seven figures the last few years in a row also have a youtube channel and teach it as well so cool so let's start at the very end

we'll work our way back why did you choose Amazon FBA over you could you could have done social media marketing or affiliate marketing why Amazon why is that the best yeah well honestly for me I just stumbled into it based on what I was doing prior I was already like flipping on the eBay and doing stuff on the side it was just a very natural progression it wasn't something that I helped this one against that one I knew a little bit about affiliate marketing but it always sounded really hard to me because in my game

now in the future I like on Amazon it's like getting the traffic is the heart and affiliate marketing you have to be the master of the traffic really so that always seems hard to me social media marketing wasn't really a thing back yet and real estate has always seemed like you know you need you need a lot of investment and things like that so I stumbled into it I was very intuitive to sell physical things that I could touch and see and had obvious value and sell them on the Internet good answer alright so I

chose affiliate marketing because so I started six years ago I'm 25 today and I start when I was 19 years old there's a lot of stuff on the internet I tried a whole bunch of different you know online business models but for me affiliate marketing was always the one that I want to stick with because I was after the lifestyle so time freedom location freedom and financial freedom to me is the ultimate lifestyle so if I could make my income as passive as possible then that to me would be the dream so a full marketing

qualified like all three of those traits because with fit marketing you can set up systems you can make websites you can make YouTube channels where you sell things and you make that passive income and it's like no overhead or low overhead you only spend for advertising costs and then it's basically on autopilot once you set it up so for me I'm really after that passive income lifestyle and the film marketing is the only thing that I found that really could get you there and also have the explosive income to give you financial freedom all right

well I started social media marketing back when I was like 16 and got really serious with it when I was 17 so as a 17 year old the idea of real estate super daunting I read when I was 14 I read Rich Dad Poor Dad I read about these investing books I'm like one day I will be a real estate investor but that one day is gonna be far from now so what can I do right now and you know Amazon FBA that sort of stuff once again there was just a lot of like legality

involved you know the fact that I was under 17 or under 18 the actual like upfront cost affiliate marketing I wasn't really aware of it at the time so for me social marketing it's like I needed zero money to start like ah solutely zero money I needed zero experience also keep in mind these days my age never really holds me back but being a 17 year old I'm like what's one thing where my age is actually an advantage for me and I'm like marketing you know if I go into these big businesses they're like he's

young of course he knows in the marketing not like he's young he doesn't know about this whatever talk like you know if I was an accountant at 17 18 I'd be screwed but um yeah that's why I go so yeah we should go back to that after this because age I think actually really works to your advantage in that industry you know as you were young and because you're doing all of this stuff it's even more impressive and people want to pay even more because you're younger and you're somehow like tapped into it like you

know this snapchat but anyway for me I chose working first as a real estate agent because I didn't have any sort of college degree I didn't really have much money to get started I figured this was a great way for me to make money that wasn't dependent on how much time I was putting into something that I can work ten hours and potentially sell a three million dollar house and make like 60 grand versus spending a year of being on a salary and being capped off of what I could make and that's why I chose

working as a real estate agent and then as far as shifting over to real estate investing I picked that because I really felt it had sustainability that no matter what happens with the internet or no matter what happens with Amazon or with someone else's social media it's like no matter what happens I'm always gonna have money coming in every single month that I can rely on and that's why we the state is the best but anyway really quick before we go into actually like we could debate which one we think is the best and why

I like one is better than the other let's touch really quick on the age thing because that was one of the things at least for me that really ended up working in my favor was being a young real estate agent you wouldn't even think that because you would think that someone getting into real estate wouldn't have the experience someone that with like you know his 40 years old would have but you would be surprised at how many people actually think you have the advantage because you're younger somehow tapped in do you know how to market

better and know how to like relate to the younger buyers more and you're somehow in it and that really helps you stand out and it really helps work in your favor and sometimes even just they want to give you a chance because you're young and it's like this young kid is 18 let me give him a shot because of how hungry he is and like you know he hasn't been beaten down by life and it's not like he's 50 years old and like doesn't need the money it's like when you're 18 or 19 or 20

I think that like $10,000 Commission goes a long way and you're so appreciative of that and people really pick up on that so with me obviously with the age thing as you kind of said it's been a like it's funny like sometimes I obviously I got my clients to do planned testimonials and they're like yeah even though he's 14 he actually managed to do this is this for us like it's like you know I've been like I kind of get like introduced and passed around through all these referrals and they're like this like young Wis

kid bob-- well I like it you know it's one of those things where I'm very lucky it actually worked in my advantage and I just I mean I guess we'll touch on this a bit later on but like I just believe in service based businesses when you're first starting and you've got zero experience zero money I like I believe in a hundred per side be with you so yeah so um there we go video done yeah but like you know but you know in the plethora of services you can offer for me it was like

what can I offer when I'm young it's like I could do videography huge issues with scale I could do personal trainers I still wanna be one but huge personal huge issues of scale so then it was like okay online marketing digital marketing paid traffic services funnel creation these are some high ticket stuff you can sell this for a lot of money and your age they don't they don't matter at night yeah and also I think it also makes you stand out more being a young kid versus like you see like a 35 year old who

let's say is making like 100 K a month that I hate to say it it that's a lot less impressive than like an 18 year old who's making a hundred cam on and that makes you stand out and just because of that you get almost more credibility like you get a better bang for the buck being young then you do being older no one knows who you are on the Internet like you don't have to really have any direct contact with the person on the other end but as an agent you're talking directly to people

with social media you're selling people directly you're working with them you're servicing those clients affiliate marketing I mean your customers don't know who you are for the most yeah yeah right same for me on Amazon like it's just not the way it works because the beauty of a lot of online businesses is like you know on the internet nobody knows who you are you can just do your own thing from home whether you're 12 years old or 150 years old it's just like it's not translated through like it's not face-to-face like that yeah I agree

with them with Matt a hundred percent because I think one of the reasons I got into affiliate marketing is because I was always like that behind-the-scenes kind of person who didn't really want to share my face like on YouTube I didn't share my face for like five or six years of making videos like I literally was doing headphone reviews with just using my hands Carmy you know I mean I didn't share myself people didn't even know like you know what my real name was but anyways I started to do more of the personal brand stuff

I when I started to share my story on YouTube and that also has its benefits cuz then absolutely when you share your personal brand you get connected with people like these guys and you get to network you know I mean so I've been on both sides of like you know kind of hiding behind the scenes and making money and then kind of sharing my story and making money and I have to say that I do like when you have that personal brand because it just opens up so many doors and opportunities for you especially being

young tying that back to being online going back to watching her not feeling yeah back to topic there are more younger people online generally especially YouTube and Instagram than there are older people so the younger you are the more you're able to relate to your audience so we're bringing a I think it's what you meant to say why is Amazon FBA better then than us it's a fun practice of all of these things you're building an audience you're selling them a product directly rather than affiliate marketing you're you're owning that audience and you're servicing customers

and once again physical products I just I was just always drawn physical products like I remember when ecommerce first became a thing and you know getting home from school and like there's a box and your parents think you're getting scammed on the Internet this is like just I don't know if physical products just have that drop me and what the model of Amazon FBA that I do is usually called private label which I don't love that term but I just think about it as creating your own brand and that is something that translates in so

many different ways for such a long term thing I mean it's not just Amazon FBA I often say to think about yourself as a product brand not just as an Amazon seller and the more you do that now you're you know you can potentially find find people to be affiliates for your product you can find people to drop ship your product you can get your product into retail all while leveraging Amazon and getting that thing out so the scale potential is really cool with that you know there's not any difference in the amount of work

from selling one unit a day for selling a hundred units a day of a product it's the same amount of work it's it's getting it to that point obviously that takes work but it has some of that hands-on approach as well like affiliate but yeah I mean the scale potential was what got me into it so I think in Philly marketing is the best because it doesn't really have many drawbacks Wow now I'm gonna say the number one drawback to affiliate marketing is that you don't own your product so if a company has an affiliate

program and you've been making let's say a comfy you know 20 or 30 K a month they can just cut their program overnight and then you're in come just to please now on the flip side with affiliate marketing is that you have infinite scale because you can sell digital web services such as like email marketing you know people sign for email marketing software anything like that like click funnels then you can sell to like a million people and make Commission on a million sales you know I mean and then with click funnels you have a

monthly recurring revenue so you actually get that Commission every single month from that user so you can kind of profit off of another company's product or service for months years to come and you don't really have to do any work and what I love the most about filling marketing is that you have like the least headaches like out of all my entrepreneur friends now you guys can correct me if I'm wrong but like I seem to have like the least sort of like obligation and sort of like hours that I have to put in so

it's the most passive but I also do the least in terms of like customer service and maintenance because once you set things up at least the way that I set up my affiliate promotions then it's kind of rinse and repeat like that you basically put it on autopilot and these things make me money for like months years in advance and I've done it like time and time again with different websites but basically just having that passive income and then also having like the lease headaches because I don't have any clients I don't have to do

any customer service I don't have to deal with refunds charge bags negative reviews it's all on the company once I get that sale so I like having less moving parts and then just being able to do what I'm good at which is selling and then making money from that is perfectly you fine with me all right well why I think social media marketing is the best is you know when you're first starting your business you're you're unproven you're untested okay so with social media marketing and this happens a lot for two and a half months

you can fail fail up just stumble fall and then month three day 87 into your journey you can sign an 8k a month retainer and there you go you're making a six-figure your income obviously depending on you know what minimum you sign them on and what but if you interested get your guy's opinion like when I first started for me it wasn't like I didn't have issues in my business or not knowing what to do I just had issues as in I wasn't disciplined I wasn't like my mindset wasn't on point like that was my

issue when I first started an entrepreneur and with social me a marketing like as I said the cool thing is you can it it's really it it's really good because it gives you those training wheels because as I said for if you if you don't get a client for six months it doesn't matter because you've got you know you're not being drained of your cash flow there's your you you don't have stop you're sitting on the school in a waste you don't have an angry like client because you don't have a client you don't have

an angry client that's pissed you don't have you know ad spend that's just gone to waste so that's one thing I love about social marketing another thing is um asset you can just get started with zero money and the overhead is really really low the next thing is you don't really need any experience to start the next thing is it's on an upswing you know like look around you there's companies who are still using billboard ads Yelp ads like you know it's funny we were talking another day we're in the small little bubble like this

this entrepreneurial bubble so we think that like Amazon FBA is saturated or like affiliate marketing saturator or like social media marketing is saturated well no it's because we're in this tiny little bubble there's like Band of Brothers that's come together to like build a better life for themselves so all we see is other entrepreneurs starting their business but you need to realize that like we're you know in terms of social miramar marketing we're a small group of agencies you know in a broader world economy that's still really lacking when it comes to their marketing and

still using age-old techniques when you know just some simple Facebook ads and retargeting campaigns can you know blow up their conversions so um companies are paying for it companies are paying big for it you know I would challenge any of you guys to say find me a better business model where within 90 days you can scale to 10k a month profit so I gotta say for for what I do the biggest thing I like is sustainability where it doesn't rely on you and continually doing social media marketing for clients who are continually tweaking products for

you know amazon or building up your brand or doing an affiliate is that you could do it once and this is a business where I really believe that if you have the capital which you can certainly make from these but you can really preserve it and grow it with I would say almost zero risk unless you're buying into a city with like one coal mine that's like running everything and it goes out of business like obviously but any sort of growing populated city I don't think there's any reason why you should ever be losing money

if you're holding real estate long-term without doing any work I mean you just set it up once and it's good for a lifetime and that's why I'm really big into real estate investing because it's that passive and it's that sustainable that it doesn't rely on anything else and people always need a place to live at the end of the day because they're making all this money and they got to run somewhere so hopefully they're the ones writing me checks with that obviously you need the investment like I think the Amazon Falls closer to those guys

but real estate that you need a big investment Amazon you need some investment that's for sure like I I agree with Iman on you know getting a client is a very quick way to make income and I even have clients that I help with Amazon stuff so it's kind of like a fusion of Amazon and social media like ant there are brands that need help with understanding that platform stuff like that but yeah I mean I think I think it totally makes sense to get immediate cash you need some income to be able to start

with Amazon you know a few thousand bucks to be able to play with it whereas real estate you need substantially more than that but it is more of it I see that as an investment obviously you make money from being an agent as a business but the investing side is investing whereas like Amazon isn't is an active business we have some amount of passiveness like it's not as passive as affiliate I think more passive than servicing clients of course you cannot get a man all of that same for Amazon though like mine is completely streamlined

for the most part like I don't have to put a lot of work into it at this point so yeah yeah agreed there's some good points I wanna say one thing with affiliate you also can start with like no overhead and it's very little expenses from month to month and the thing is with the field marketing is that it's just on an upward trajectory as well because companies like Tesla for example have an affiliate program and there's this guy yeah wait you know what I just heard the funding is secured Oh secure so one guy

it's actually one two Tesla roadsters from referring like a hundred people to Boise ah yeah yeah exactly that's cool so even Tesla's doing it as a market every company does affiliate marketing honestly how do you get your foot in the door but yeah I would say social media marketing is the quickest to scale up Amazon FBA is second quickest to scale up and then further marketing is the slowest because at least the way that I do it it's really really sort of like a long-term type thing so it takes a long time to build a

brand and you know it may take a year it may take two years before you actually get like you know a full time income but once you make it it's very sustainable you know I mean like it can actually last for years and that's with like doing zero maintenance now if you want to keep it up you can actually scale that income like higher and higher you know I mean so yeah it's tough honestly there's it's not get rich quick overnight it's never been that way so it takes time I've been doing it for six

years so no in those six years how often have the strategies changed that you've needed to implement like let's say things are shifting from facebook to instagram or Instagram to YouTube how often do things shift that requires your attention to go and like tweak it and redo yeah when I got started blogging was like my thing yeah I mean Bobby's not really like much of a thing today except for the people who have like five plus years of backlinks and just history with Google so I had to transition to YouTube now this was nice because

YouTube and Google what we YouTube being owned by Google means that you get fast lane to basically getting ranked on Google search engine because if people look up anything on Google your YouTube video could pop up yeah so I use that strategy for law of my affiliate marketing and it's done very well for me I still think YouTube is like the best social media platform out there I just think in terms of like the viewership the engagement the audience like I just think like I love you too you know I mean so I use YouTube

for my foot marketing these days and you know for the foreseeable future I'm going to keep using YouTube and as long as I can get these videos to rank for certain terms and they keep their rankings then it's basically autopilot you know so if they were to lose the rankings and then I stopped getting that much traffic then that's when I have to kind of scramble and figure out a new strategy but for the most part I mean you know once you got there like it's is basically passive income come let's say for social media

marketing are you ever worried that more younger people are gonna start to enter the workforce and just know what to do instinctively because they've been born and raised around social media well I mean the thing I love about social media marketing is first of all it keeps you on your toes what I love about social media marketing is I have I have my social media marketing agency I also have my own training business and then I also do a bit of affiliate marketing it's funny I think all of us have a little bit of like

a bleed-over UMG service based clients and I yeah I do some affiliate you do some with it so there's a bit a bit of a bleed over between all of us but we only got enough money to the death is that were things I love is whenever I want to test something in my training business so in terms of webinar funnels and stuff like that I just test it out with my client ever works with my clients just implement it with with my own so um no I don't really ever get worried because look I

think with Amazon FBA if you you know if you are happy where you're at you're you know the competition competition's gonna come in and they're gonna crush you with affiliate marketing if you're just happy and you're stagnant and you don't keep up to date with it the things yeah the competition is gonna come in and they're gonna kill you same with real estate like it's just we all want this amazing fantasy we're like you build the business you work hard and then it just sustains and it keeps doing its thing that it doesn't work like

that and you know I actually hate if my business was like that so I like the fact that you have to stay on your toes and I also like the fact that because you know two of my to my clients last month actually hit over $100,000 profit from my agency services like if I know how to do with my clients I can just do off with myself which I do do with my training business so um you know I think if you actually understand pay traffic if you understand sales if you understand operations like and

you can do that with your marketing agency then you can actually pivot from you know quickly scaling your marketing agency you can quickly pivot and then do affiliate marketing then do Amazon FBA you know for me it was building a training business because you know I have this vision of performing that education system and really working on that but when you learn those skills and you can play around with your clients money then you can pivot and you can do your own thing after if that's what you want to do and on social media marketing

what's interesting is it's really just marketing more than social media yeah and if you can take especially with established big businesses I mean if you can you know have some marketing effort that moves the needle for them what they will always pay you big money I was there are major companies paid millions of dollars to agencies through marketing all the time because if you're making it measurable impact in the business like Europe yeah the the tactics change but the tactics always changed but you can make somebody else more money they're always gonna pay you you're

always valuable no matter where the markets at if you're valuable to someone else then you'll never go broke man yeah I have a question for Gramps yeah so none of do any of us do you own any real estate yeah oh man you don't you and not anything guys right and you got Graham over there like by real estate yeah by real estate and yeah but like I don't even know what to do like how like if I want if I was already like what do you even do it just seems like one of those

black box things like I just want to like I'm a like the social media generation like I just wanted like rents it's like hands off like I don't know it just seems like I don't even know how to crack that if I like what would I look for what how much would I be putting in what kind of returns would I expect where would I yeah well first of all I think you have to like real estate this is some amount of work that goes into setting enough that a lot of people just never have

an interest in or never want to do uh and those sort of people that just don't have the patience to do it will often rush things and then make mistakes for people that want to be totally hands-off it's I would always just say like a good index fund would be it but for real estate first of all you have to have the interest in real estate actually setting it up but the first single Lepore I would always say is cash flow is to make sure you're going to get enough money in rent to pay all

of your expenses and then you calculate based off that how much return are you gonna be getting every single month based off how much money you're putting in what the mortgage is gonna be what the taxes are gonna be and also how much of the loan you're gonna be paying off every single month and calculating that together to really figure out what sort of return they're gonna get and if that's worth it to you all right the good thing with real estate is that it's unlike the stock market where it's like some months you know

it might go up like a percent and other months might go down a percent with the real estate for the most part it's pretty consistent that every single month are going to be getting the same amount even if the market goes down what tends to happen is that more people just end up renting because they're holding off from buying but that's one of the things at least if the market's going down more people are renting because they simply need a place to stand that's the one thing you're seeing right now in this market is that

people are hesitant to buy because they read these articles that like sales are down and like would there's the wages don't keep up with an interest rate like they they come up with all these little reasons not to buy and because of that they're like well I should just continue renting well who do you think is making the money at that point the landlord is and more people are deciding to rent so it does really well even in a down economy and it's consistent first of all I don't think it matters if it's a single-family

if it's a condo I hate condos but hypothetically if it's a condo two units ten units it doesn't matter it really matters how much the deal is and how much money it's gonna be making every single month it doesn't matter some houses will make more money than a ten unit apartment building well some condos will make more money than a house so it really doesn't matter but in terms of figuring out what you can buy the first thing is how much more money do you have I'm typically not seeing three five percent down I don't

see that the lowest I'd seen right now in this market is about fifteen percent down so how much money you have is really going to decide even just the ballpark price range so what I just wanted to get my feet wet like is there a minimum you would say like putting 50k in or a hundred fifty I wouldn't even say it's a dollar amount because my first house I bought for 60 grand six it was actually fifty nine thousand five hundred dollars because I renegotiated with the bank and I got five hundred hours back so

I wouldn't say there's a dollar amount because someone in Kentucky that dollar amount could be twenty grand someone in Los Angeles that dollar amount if they want to invest here could be a hundred and fifty grand I would say it's always at minimum fifteen percent of the purchase price plus throw in six months of whatever your expenses would be like a mortgage property tax all of that and then preferably another ten to fifty thousand dollars depending on what it is to fix it up ten thousand you want to do a little minor renovation fifty thousand

you have the money so minimum fifteen percent plus renovation plus a little buffer is how much you would need so like we're in LA area let's say a hundred grand in or plus I guess a bit for the other stuff is there really like it's not even a workable number is it is it less than that together yeah hundred percent I'm looking every single day I found one kind of shady area you're not gonna like shady area by Inglewood but it's still good I liked it for six hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars I think

it was a duplex and you could rent each unit for about twenty three hundred hours a month it was three bedrooms one bathroom per unit and that was decent like that's a unit where you're gonna be making maybe a hundred bucks 200 month which doesn't sound like a lot but in Los Angeles that is a lot in terms of the amount that you're paying down alone and also the equity I think whatever you hear like putting in so you'd be putting in like a hundred grand making like two hundred five okay in cash flow but

explore this different VIN it's like buying a stock and be like I'm not getting any dividends in the stock but the stock is going up in value right if you buy a stock at you know fifty bucks and then funding is secured and now it's worth $80 you just made money break even for thirty years now you own it it's who thinks so yes now you own it outright but historically a city like Los Angeles has gone up above inflation yeah for instance view Park and Ladera heights here in Los Angeles has gone up in

value about five and a half percent above inflation annually since 1960 that's huge you're making five-and-a-half percent you're making rent on top of that and you're paying down the mortgage I mean that could be if you invested back then like a 20 percent return on your money but here's the thing if I look at something like that and then I just look at like you know what we're doing like for me you know I guess with my with my agency clients you know there I've run client acquisition funnels in the past but you know I

can't really give a reasonable SMS of what there are why is he on that but like you know I guess on my marketing agency its organic and referral based but in my training business I can literally put in one dollar and get seven eight ten dollars back in thirty days the next three days and so I go to yet Odie Odie could put in one dollar and get and he does yeah he puts in one dollar and he gets five dollars back so he'll he'll spend let's just say let's just throw out 20k in advertising

and make a hundred cake right so he's making whatever five don't forget Amazon America wait there are thousands of people that have created million dollar-plus businesses with you know three to ten thousand dollars of their initial investment and they're just rolling it back in until we have this thing that's multi seven figures young I don't dispute any of that and I agree you get a much better return if you Porter if you're putting it back into a business by all means but at what point do you start to preserve your wealth and that's where real

estate comes in if you're making like three times your money by spending a dollar making back three you're never gonna do that in real estate do that I mean that's a no-brainer I'm not gonna sit here and be like no I think in five years if we sat here and we did we should if we sat here and did the same interview we'd probably all be in real estate yeah am I thinking with my business right now is it's at the seven figures or my business it to my social media marketing on my training business

in its at seven figures or it will be seven figures profit this year I want to get that to eight figures and then I want it like for me yeah I guess I'm young maybe naive I don't see why I couldn't get to nine figures but I don't think I'm gonna do that with a business I think I'm gonna do that with real estate and even going from seven figures to eight figures I would see I would see you really see it as my avenue to do that but my goal my goal would be like

just hit seven figures first and that's kind of you know that's kind of why I like but see the thing is you're in a hostile in stage where you want to constantly put in the work hustle make more money off read about some of their philia marketing no money and they're like researching real estate but it's just not you're not ready it offers what an affiliate marketing business even with my training business I'm not hustling this is all passive income like majority of my money here 60 70 percent of my profit monthly is passive income

his is 100% passive income pretty much same with him so I just I don't know with my opinion you know with my my point of view it's just like focus on like nothing will ever bring you a better return than your business you know and I I just wonder what the percentage of people watching this who are millionaires and I think if you're a millionaire I think definitely start time and by the way you mine I'm 18 I'm sitting with you know I'm sitting with some entrepreneurs the no life ten more than me and you

know I'm I can be completely naive here but when I look at the landscape of things I'm like damn I just got focused on my business and that's gonna bring me a greater ROI than any other sort of investment and then when I guess the point where my business is maybe capping out I'm reaching issues with scale or I just don't want to like as you said maybe just be working that hard to take things to the next level maybe it's time to look at something that could see I would agree with that I would

I would think anyone would tell you at 18 to put your money and everything you have into a business but at a certain point it's really just the safety net of knowing that you have consistent income no matter what happens with you your business your clients if something happens if someone takes over someone's better it's that safety net of just knowing that you had this preserved for the rest of your life what you said I I completely agree with that's always been my thought is that I would make money in the business and roll it

into real estate and that that would be my well you know 10 20 30 40 years from now and that's why I'm trying to plant this even learn about real estate we all we've all said our piece I think what's one thing we can all agree on for me every I will be building a personal brand you know yeah whether that be the actual like for me I've said this all the time attention is income I mean just go look at someone like Kylie Jenner you know attention is income how you actually want to monetize

that it's completely up to you but even for me having building a personal brand has given me so much equity when it comes to client acquisition I get really high ticket clients just because I have a strong personal brand and yeah or I'm in any type of audience really because then it opens you up to having your own products to doing affiliate marketing to having clients to been running that money into real estate like having an audience attention really is the currency you're paying attention literally and yeah that's that's your something I almost feel like

the personal brand will be the future of marketing turn Ana in a sense it's these influencer shoutouts it's people watching you know the Jake and Logan Paul's that decide they they're hyped up and they want to buy some merch or whatever it is that's where I feel like honestly I would say from everything I've done in the last ten years the personal brand has been the most valuable not only in terms of the you know can actions that I've made but just the opportunities that have presented themselves just because of YouTube over anything else I

mean I would I would trade probably everything for the personal brand the other thing I like about personal brand is we're playing for life like yes that blows my mind to think about it you are it's your name you're building up for like you know this is just brand equity around ourselves that we can cash in not in a not in a scandi way but just will be building leverage from decades yeah how crazy will that be when we're all 50 years older so it's leverage whether as I said like you want to it's it's

actual financial currency as and as I said attention as income and it's also social currency you can go places you can hang out with people that you wouldn't otherwise like it's your own way to become kind of like famous you know it's pretty crazy so this is amazing seriously I hope you guys enjoyed this if you guys do enjoy this make sure you do smash that like button and for all the haters out there just make sure if you're gonna hit the dislike button just dislike it twice just hit that button is what you need

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