Tell us about how you grew up your diagnosis with ADHD jail drugs all the things things just escalated over the years to getting introduced to drugs what happened after that you're lucky they didn't shoot you right I would not be here if it didn't damn Jail's probably the worst thing I've ever experienced knowing what you know now like what are some of those tools you tap into one of the most important Things is the people that you allow in your life I can love them from a distance why do people stay poor they don't ever
ask themselves that question this is how the economy works you don't like it go start your own country what's your belief now well who do I need to become skills character traits beliefs to be a person that creates that kind of value what was the other little moments that you remember that set you back on the right track and I eventually got Released to a rehab center that literally saved my [Music] life let's get the lay of the land here and get your story before all of this massive success that you've had tell us about
how you grew up your diagnosis with ADH D jail drugs all the things yeah you know I always joke with people that kind of had a colorful childhood a little rocky I'm I'm the fourth or the second oldest of four kids High energy when I was 10 or 11 I got diagnosed with ADHD my mom was an alcoholic so you know that was one of the questions when the psychiatrist asked like did your mom drink while you were I like I don't know what she drank when I was she was pregnant but turns out she
did um so so I at a very young age I just felt like there was something wrong with me like that I was broken just because you know why am I taking this pill for breakfast Every day why is why are my teachers putting me in special classes so it's kind of crazy growing up I just I didn't feel confident about myself at all like I wasn't great in school kind of a reject and things just escalated over the years to getting introduced to drugs so when I was 13 had a bit of addictive personality
had a lot of energy playing in the woods building tree forts and then uh as a teenager got introduced to you know smoking weed initially but then It just kind of escalated pretty quick and that's where I found myself in a high-speed chase trying to get away from the cops when you look back on being really little you say you have a pill with breakfast do you wish now that you're an adult in retrospect that you just were never given the pill to begin with because I've heard a lot of people who are adults now
that come on the podcast that say wish that I never took a riddle in at all cuz that was like a Gateway what's your belief now I I think it's the biggest farce right now in the society giving people pills to solve their problems so looking back you wish your parents had just never I wish they would have just understood that not everybody's the same you know how like you look physically at somebody and somebody could be seven foot tall and somebody's 42 yeah well our brains are the same way like some people have Different
brains than other people it doesn't make them bad it doesn't mean that they have to take a pill just means they different so like had they just like I have a kid that's like like that and I don't think I'm going to default to a pill I think about his nutrition I think about the amount of exercise I mean my problem was is that I just I wasn't meant to just sit in a chair and try to memorize stuff that I didn't see the point to I think That's a lot of people that's like everybody
I don't know like anybody that's creative yeah at that time and you're maybe maybe a little older than me but not so maybe not so much I'm 44 yeah so not so much like seven years older we that happened to me too when I was a kid but my dad D was basically like no he was kind of like a Hardline like not but they tried to give me that St cuz I couldn't sit still and kind of like similar story and I felt kind of Like out of place in school but I imagine your
story is more common than mine where a lot of parents at the time were nervous and said okay well my kid is having these issues put them on the medicine right like that's what the school or the doctor or whoever's saying and like maybe they just didn't know better I I mean I'm I already love your dad that's awesome that you did that yeah I think what happened was is there was four of us and they were just trying To figure out how to survive and not only that I had I had anger issues I
you know I I wasn't well behaved um so yeah I think the pill just you know the experts are saying this so they put me on medication and do you remember it making you feel different when you started taking it like do you remember like this could you tell at that age of the switch as soon as I took it and that's why I say for breakfast cuz I used to not want to take It and then my mom would hide it in my breakfast oh my God yeah I would refuse sometimes if I if
I noticed it was like in the muffin or something I would spit it back out oh my God that's intense it just Cal but I mean it's two different kids I don't know if you've like there's a lot of adults today when they want to like I'm going to do emails today and they take frakin Adavan or whatever they're you know like you can notice the difference so yeah as a as an 8 n 10 Year-old I was like there's two different Dan I heard this story about little boys and it really resonated it says
like the testosterone's the strongest between three and seven and so you get this little boy with so much testosterone and they put them in circle time with the girls and the boy doesn't want to listen he wants to run around and get the energy out and get the testosterone moving and it is true it needs to be treated I think differently Because it is different hormones I just to me it was I now knowing what I know now and having kids and you know I've spoken about ADH it's one of the most popular videos on
my YouTube channel is and about a decade ago I even decided I didn't want to get off all medication so I used to be on Aderall up until I was in my early 30s and I was just like I don't like the way this makes me I would much rather and that's a lot of the Concepts of my book came from was just like how do I design my life in a way that I don't have to take a pill to feel normal when I don't like the way I am when I'm on it you'd
mentioned a high-speed chase what is to give us that yeah I mean if you grew up with any friend or kid in your high school that you knew that was kind of on the wrong side of the tracks that that was just me like I I got kicked out of school so many times pretty much I think it was Like grade n or 10 when I kind of went down pretty hard where I was taken harder drugs and uh ran away from my home and i' had already gone to juvenile detention when I was 14
for shoplifting a bunch of other stuff and I was high and drunk and the police were looking for me so I decided to steal a car and kind of go to another state make make make a make a run for it and um I was driving this car all high and drunk and I took a exit uh to get some gas and There was a routine roadblock and I just gunned it so it was kind of bananas it was like out in the middle of like the country and I took off the cops immediately you
know pursued and I had quite a bit of distance ahead of them so I was in the neighborhood and I came around a corner I saw an open garage door you know thought maybe I could sneak in the garage Clos you know might have watched too many car chase Movies and prior to stealing the car i' um I made a commitment to myself that if the cops stopped me I was going to pull the handgun I had on me and uh let them take my life so it came into this driveway carrying way too much
speed smashed into the side of the house and as soon as I kind of came to cuz I wasn't wearing a seat belt I just went for the gun and so what did what happened after that when you went for the gun they when you're lucky they Didn't shoot you right um the gun actually got stuck in the bag in the side of the seat oh you're lucky I would not be here if it didn't damn and so what happens after that to they you were you a minor at this time yeah okay so you
go to obviously a juvenile detention center so it was unique about that situation because of my background um I got put into the original Juvenile Detention called Kings clear for I think I was there three months on remman then Eventually got released to an adult facility um because they had a Cell Block unit for um adolescent that had drug addiction and wanted to be in recovery and I I obviously knew I had a problem problem and um and that's what the judge sentenced me to and it was I mean Jail's probably the worst thing I've
ever experienced in my life anybody's ever been arrest I mean just even just getting stripped down in search it's just so you know degrading So it was it was tough and it was a big reason I didn't want to go back and uh for whatever reason the gun got stuck and I woke up sober next morning wondering what my life was going to look like what what does jail look like to someone who has never been there I can just explain it from my point of view even though I had anger issues and I was
on medication and all that stuff there was some micro part of my being that knew I was a good person You know like people do bad things but they also you know I so what happened was is I go in this environment where I'm like okay I'm going to use this time to try to be better it's it's almost impossible like you know right off the bat and I know in the US it's even worse is like there's kind of gangs right there's clicks there's people so even if you want to stay to yourself you
can't as as soon as you walk through and you're new people are in your face Pushing your buttons trying to see how you're going to react so you know I I tried to like hold my own and and kind of find my click and I I actually did pretty good I was there for probably three months doing my you know working on my GED staying away from the stuff they were doing because there's drugs and stuff in prison I didn't want to add to my sentence I think I got sentenced to two years and um
and I had a shot at potentially getting out to a rehab Center so unfortunately though one one day I was having breakfast and um I took the last of the coffee which in jail that's kind of a big deal and some kid named Kirk that looked like a muscle he had about eight pack and you know 14 years old but just built like a mini Hulk he uh he looks around the table and said who drank the last of the coffee so I had to say me boom fight breaks out it's going off in the
jail Cell the guards pick us up you know drag us down the hallway and throw us in in the hole so the hole is the worst thing you could probably experience you're in your underwear 24 hours a day lights are on cement bed stainless steel toilet sink they only let you out legally 30 minutes a day in this this like fenced in cement thing and they don't tell you how long you're going to be there in my case they didn't and um and after 3 days the door opens and it's this guard named Brian just
staring at me me disappointed and Brian tells me to follow him and I'm you know he wasn't there when the fight happened he was it was a week under or something and then I'm following back to the the cell block and we go past the door where I'm supposed to go to the next door which is the guard unit and no inmates are allowed in the guard unit you know like there's they they read you the rules these are the rules one of them is you're never allowed in that Room and he says follow me
and I I don't know what's going on I'm 16 at the time and uh Brian p pulls me down sits you know sits me in the corner and then pulls a chair in front of me and just looks me in the eyes and goes what are you doing here and I said what do you mean he goes what he goes Dam what are you doing here man and I go well I got in a fight with Kirk he says not the fight man he goes what are you doing in this place so well I got
in a highp speed chase and the drugs and he goes he goes nobody's ever told you this I believe in you and you don't belong here and it makes no sense to me that you're in this place and that that planted a seed of some belief I thought this guy knows I mean there's he's been here for 10 years he must see something that I don't and and in that moment it was just like The beginning of like leaning on Brian's belief in myself when I had no belief in myself and took me another three
or 4 months and I eventually got released to a rehab center that that literally saved my life what was your Eureka Tipping Point after that to get you set on a very right track cuz obviously you got back on a track that's incredible I mean you're an author podcaster like it's so what was the other little moments that you remember that set you back on the Right track when you were in rehab there were so many I mean I almost got kicked out twice like I I I man I had some bad habits I had
some bad mindsets I had some bad beliefs I I had this thing with a girl that was in so most rehab centers are one you know gender this one was mixed and one of the rules is definitely don't fraize and broke that one almost got kicked out after four months fought my way to stay there then gotten another altercation with another guy physically So that there's L three Cardinal rules don't use drugs don't don't you know don't get involved in the other genders and then uh don't uh get in a fight so it took me
the average person did six months to kind of get clean I was there for 11 months and during that 11 months I learned my stories my mind like all these things I know now today as personal development I got at 16 17 years old it was in hindsight the best gift but the thing that shaped it all For me was I was helping Rick the maintenance guy clean out one of the cabins so it's built on this old church camp and in one of the rooms uh I found an old computer and a yellow book
on Java programming computer programming language and for whatever reason I opened it up and it just spoke to me like I it just it kind of made sense so I started the computer and followed the instructions of chapter 1 and 20 minutes later I got the computer to say hello World and that that became like oh this is a thing like I can I just coded a computer what else is in here chapter 2 3 four and I just followed it and this is 97 so I get out my new obsession addiction became writing code
the and then found out about this little thing called the internet and that's been my path since then somebody who you know looking back someone who has self-limiting beliefs know they're listening to this podcast And they're just down on themselves all the time they don't believe that they can achieve they don't believe that they're enough what what were some of the things that got you to switch and knowing what you know now like what are some of those tools you tap into I know totally one of the biggest gifts that I got well in rehab
was the concept of a transition plan so a transition plan is essentially a business plan for your life they don't call it that but Essentially it's like here are all the things you have to tell us you're going to go do so that when you get out you're not caught with you know Idle Hands is this unique to recover you I think so I mean it was unique to this program for sure I don't know if like 12ep programs Etc do it but yeah it was it was probably unique to that specific facility but one
of the things that they required us to do is to identify positive people in our lives that we're Going to start reinvesting and investing in relationships activities we're going to do so it's funny CU like the biggest thing that's impacted my life the most I mean the reason I'm even on this podcast is relationship you know people that you know support your dreams and and it's hard cuz like I grew up and these are only friends I've ever known are people that I got in trouble with end up met in prison did things I shouldn't
have done with and here I get out I got to change High schools because right off the bat like there's just too much you know Dan this way so right off the bat I was like okay I'm going to change high schools same city and I remember even just going to the Farmers Market on a Saturday running into like my buddy Stefan and he's like hey D heard your out like you know let's hang out this weekend and and just like that feeling in my gut like just the heat on my chest just going like
yeah you yeah I'll it's good to see You know like trying to come up with a reason to just like pun but I would I just tell you like one of the most important thing is the people that you allow in your life and not you hear these people say that it's you become the average of the five people that you spend the most time with I actually think it's you become the average of The Five People You Let influence you so it's actually not the people you spend the time with although that definitely Has
influence but it's literally who whose opinion do you respect so what I had to do is say okay I don't care if this group of people I had to associate if I spend time with these people I will die that's where I went with my mind because then it became binary there was no like negotiating with myself I can go to my buddy's birthday party it was no time there follow the plan I was I was just so scared I was going to relapse and end up back you know in a worst spot You know
I'm now I'm pretty much at that point I was getting close to being an adult I had I have no criminal record because I was a juvenile so I would say that that lesson of really sitting down and auditing my friend group and saying who are the people that I think are going to support my sobriety I like to imagine that everyone that listens to this show is a busy productive person that is trying to be the most efficient they can be with Their time and their energy this is why I love talking about ag1
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it was the family members you're talking about that's the hardest I mean some of them could be your parents right in my case for the most part is my mom like my mom was not a healthy person at that time to to be around that's why I went and live with my dad and what I did is I had to get to a place and it was so hard I remember like Just because there's this angst where I don't want the person to feel rejected I don't want to make it worse because a lot of
these people have their own addiction and then if I reject them I don't want to be the person that pushes them over an edge that's always a fear and the big thing I I got to is I can love them from a distance and I just kept reminding myself that I don't hate them I'm not upset with them I love them but I don't have to spend time with them And the more I spend time with me and that was a big big thing I learned in in in recovery is if I keep trying to
be the best for of myself when they're ready then I'll have more resources to help them but the last thing you want to do is you know get sober for a week and then try to convince every person you were doing drugs with to get sober you're just not you're not strong enough yet you see this all the time person goes to CrossFit for seven days and They're like you got to do CrossFit it's like how about you go for six months and let's talk so doing the work you do now and hosting the show
and writing books and all reaching the people you reach what is the most most common issue you see with people that are struggling and maybe there's a handful of them but I guess the ones that come to mind the most the hardest one right now is that there's so many vices that are just so socially acceptable such as oh alcohol Sugar news gambling gaming porn porn it's just there's never been a time in the history of humanity where were you know the other day my wife and I were on a a date and we were
scooting around our little Lake area we live and you know I call it these people that just pause I don't know if you see them in Austin but they're just like standing up bent over paused doing what they're home they're like they just probably did something I Don't know if it's fenol yeah I don't know what it is I call them pause people they're literally just standing there bent over as if they're about to pick something up but they're there for 15 minutes an hour like it's it's fascinating to watch because you got to ask
yourself what is happening in their body chemically that essentially it's so low level that is keeping their their organs doing the thing but their brain is offline heroin maybe it's heroin I Honestly don't know what specific drug it is but all I know is that I've never seen more incidents of it like now around me all over in small towns Big Towns so the the availability of it maybe the price point of it I don't know what it is but you know and then obviously with the internet with you know even purchasing stuff over the
internet right it's all available so I think that's where just getting honest with it and and then just for people to Go like do you feel better after you do this you know like I don't love to go to the gym but after I go to the gym I'm like this feels great I think what's really helped me with any bad habit is crowding it out with good habits and then when you you almost get addicted to feeling good as opposed to feeling bad so when you do the bad thing it's like oo I don't
want to feel that way I want to go back to feeling really good so like an example like for me is like I Now like going in the the sauna at night so I don't really I don't want to have a margarita because I want to go on the sauna cuz I feel so great so like you kind of like you have I think you have to replace the bad habits with something really positive positive and the replacement is key so when I was in rehab I replac the addiction for drugs with writing code yes
I used to smoke cigarettes as a teenager when I quit I started eating these pink peppermints You know those little pink peppermints the little like the I probably ate 300 a day okay for weeks to replace the desire to have a cigarette what do you eat instead of peppermints now I don't know I just know that I put 20 pounds on in you know three months so that wasn't a good alternative I heard sunflower seeds are good yeah exactly like nobody sat me down and said hey put the pink peppermints down you're eating 7,000 calories
of sugar uh let's let's kick Into the the sunflower seeds so I think the for most people that know anything about habits yeah like replacing it with something positive um so that it just you know you give it enough time that 21 days or whatever 3 months to just rebuild CU because everything in our mind is malleable like we can actually program it it just requires time for the neurons to actually realign into this new Norm right and it comes down to the identity that was the other thing that Portage the rehab center I went
to taught me how to create my self worth because prior to that unfortunately I had zero honestly if it wasn't for Brian sit me down saying like you confuse me while you're here like you don't act like the rest of the kids I see you doing your homework I see you staying out of trouble like I don't think I would have ever believed that I was worth not being in trouble all the time because that's my reality growing up and I think for a lot of people the vice is is a byproduct of of not
feeling they deserve happiness I think a lot of what you went through too is is projection of how you felt because of maybe your parents now that you're a parent what are things that you do do to instill selfworth in your kids because of your experience that you went through this is my favorite question that is an awesome question um and if we call my boys no if we call my boys right now they would They would tell you because they make fun of me for it and I think that's how you know you're consistent
when you're your friends or your family can make fun of you for something um one of my favorite things to do for them that I learned from one of my mentors was tell them about them so since they were young when I put them to bed I go hey Noah can I tell you about you and now this is what he does oh I don't want to leave me alone okay And all I do is I just tell him how incredible they are I tell him about like last night I saw Noah play with his
friends and they played really well and you know he's funny my other son Max is like such a he he edits in cap cut he's 11 he when you see him on his iPad it's like mosart in cap cut I didn't even know cap I don't think even cap cut knew that people would use it the way he does because you know he grew up with tap right he doesn't I'd be there with my Index finger clicking around typing stuff and I just I just tell them about them I just my whole thing is is
the world isn't going to have less access to things that will be bad for them but if I can help instill their selfworth by telling them about the things that I see that I think they're incredible at that cost nothing that's like my favorite thing in the world to do how do you instill personal accountability not only in yourself but in your kids and the Reason I asked this is I think part of part of the reason people are in so much pain is that we've really as a people moved away from personal accountability there's
always a reason or um I'm going to play this for you when we get in fight so keep going there's always there's always some reason I love your PO it's like or some story or someone else or something to blame like I I I think that at least in my life anytime I've been in pain it's For a lack of personal accountability it's like it's an outward projection of something else is or someone else did something and every time I've taken accountability is when things start to improve how do you instill that in your kids
or even people you speak to yeah I mean I I sucked at all of that I think that's why I struggled with addiction and and honestly I struggle in life for for years before I found had any success was it was just so easy to blame other People it was easy to blame the psychiatrist it was easy to blame the prison system it was easy to blame you know the the business partner whatever and I you know I think over the years I read a bunch of books that talked about the the concept of like
the locus of control you know external things versus internal what does that mean I don't know what that means the locus of control is the idea that either the world happens from you external that's Inward versus outward which is it happens to you ah and a lot of people consume the news they have conversations you know when they hit misery loves company they like to complain because they're they're essentially trying to have other people validate their feelings but it's all external happening to them okay and what this concept and many other people have talked about
for years is when you get to a place where you realize nobody can make you feel Anything you choose the meaning you associate to an activity an action anything that happens to you and that produces a feeling then it puts you back into control like no matter what happens if the lights go out right now I can either appreciate the fact that I'm in Austin hanging out with you guys even though we can't do the Pod or I can be upset that we're not going to shoot the Pod but I get to decide that feeling
based on the the meaning I associate so The life philosophy that I've taught my boys on that concept is this simple you know philosophy which is the world will show you where you're not free the world will show you where you're not free and if you don't learn the lesson the world has this beautiful way of bringing that back up and again and again give us an example of what you mean by that oh I mean some entrepreneurs for example because I work with a lot of entrepreneurs they're like Oh this employee screwed something up
and it cost me money and for some reason it just seems to always happen to this one entrepreneur well what are you supposed to learn like can you pause for a second and say let's admit to your point right Michael is a great question um you hired them you trained them you created the process you allowed them to act a certain way and it's not the first time it's happened it's not the second time It's literally happens every 3 months for you so My Philosophy is the world will show me where I'm not free so
if I'm emotionally responding to something I need to ask myself what am I supposed to learn here same thing in relationships you meet people and they're like oh yeah this this guy he's different because he's got brown hair instead of blonde hair no it's the same guy it's they're different you know they're physically different people but They have the same that person came into your life to teach you something about you and that's that's like one of the things that I teach my boys is like your brother can't make you mad cuz that's what two
like I have two brothers like we fought all the time you know my wife always when they were punching and each other she's like is this normal I'm like there's no blood this is this is actually really good like we should celebrate this moment and you know They're like oh he said this he made me mad I said he never made you mad you decide to be upset by the things he said for example like Lauren if I came up to you and I screamed in your eyes I said you have purple eyes you have
purple eyes and I'm upset and I'm like you have purple eyes you're going to be like I don't have purple eyes so if you did get upset it's because you have something about that language that scenario that upsets you And that's your work to do if you want to do it or not you got upset with me about 10 minutes ago so that's it was it turns out it was because your response was impatience and irritability which is my next question or was your response that perception okay next question no no tell me more I'm
curious what happened no what I I mean listen I mean like any other couple I always say like if you want I I believe this on both sides if you want something to change in the Relationship you can't change the other person you have to change your behavior or leave or it's it's really like on you that the other person like I we have a lot of friends that are either in relationship ships as many people do or trying to date and it's always this part of my earlier question it's always this external reason why
they're not getting or receiving what they want and at some point you have to look yourself in the mirror and say like how am I Contributing to this equation and what am I doing to not to not get the things that I want you know what I mean 100% I mean it's there there's this great quote that says you teach people how to treat you right so if somebody's acting a certain way well somehow somehow you've you made that okay you know recently we're in Cabo and we we help we hold um a Couple's Retreat
so like once a year with our entrepreneur friends we do this Retreat and I know usually like it's Very abnormal you guys are like very unique in the sense you guys are together and in a business right like I don't know if you know a lot of people that do that but I don't I tell everyone not to do it I'm just saying it's abnormal so so what happen is we do this Retreat and most of the people there I know one or the other the woman or the man but I've never met their partner
and I open the retreat by just saying how many of you were brought to this event Like put your hand up so the other couple they put their hand up I say well your partner thinks that I brought you here to help fix you and the truth is they got to do the work and they're like yeah you tell them I mean that's it's always our work to do what is the most common thing that you see with these couples Retreats what is the what is the main problem usually I think it's just about rhythms
of success I like you know in my book I talk about kind of my Calendar and how I've been able to you know build quote unquote the Empire it's everything thing I try to do is is enhancing it's like going to the gym right okay that's a good Rhythm Lock and Load just stay there that's a foundation because if we don't build habits that create a foundation then as we try to add new stuff the foundation is Rocky right so like if you can't get basic things like maybe going to bed on time locked and
loaded well don't try to Start a business because then you're not going to be like some people you know I I always joke like going to bed on time would probably solve most people's problems yeah yeah right so it's just so the foundations have to be there but the thing from a rhythm point of view for couples is some weekly conversation that has some structure to allow the other person to be on the same page uh communicate discuss issues so my wife and I we have it every week every Monday We have lunch and one
example of a question that we ask each other is for me I ask her how have I been for you as a husband ah love and the only answer my to like cause any issues at home but the only response no matter what she says is thank you oo and I got to feel those feelings and she might have just let let loose can you do it and you know what's fasc I will say from I can do it are you down well I hope when I ask how I've been as a wife you're like
spectacular Amazing the best never intelligent imagine anyone like you I would feel like this has been Exquisite yeah as tears are coming yeah yeah fascinating is my language yeah but and I mean that it's always a running joke who goes first we always try to alternate but it's I think what happens in relationships that fracture is there was a point where it started and because there's no rhythm to kind of evaluate and bring it back by the time It becomes a major issue we're talking Grand Canyon type departure and those are just harder sit and
this is true for business relationships so my whole thing is trying to inoculate the resentment yeah you know it's maybe we don't talk Lauren and I don't talk about this a lot but one thing that I tell our friends and family privately is I don't think people realize how much Lauren and I actually communicate about what we want not only in business but with our family And our kids and our life we do it like it's all the time sometimes maybe to the point where it's annoying to her but what what I've seen some couples
struggles with is like they don't talk about anything at all and all of a sudden they're on completely not even on different pages they different books yeah and we have people close to us that will come to us and they're sometimes surprised that we talk about these things all the time when I say like if You're not talking you're not on the same page how do you know if you're moving in the same direction right it's really easy in a relationship and we're not perfect trust me um to really start moving in opposite directions and
like completely fractur the relationship just from a lack of communication yeah and you and one partner sitting there're thinking everything's great the other partner is sitting there're think like I this is terrible I'm about to leave get Ready for Mondays for Yeah question you can do it any day of the week good good news is thank you we'll just add it to our um three podcasts that we do every single week and everything else yeah add it to your life why do people stay poor I know I just hit you with that question but there's
so much there it's a I love that question um you know the more I work with people to help them be more successful personal mindset business health wealth that kind Of stuff there's a part of them because it's easy to say well I just don't know how I think there's a part of them that is scared to win because then they're the fear is actually in the things they'd have to change to maintain it elaborate well first off if you actually let's say you know on the financial side right off the bat they're scared that
well what if I am financially successful and I don't know how to manage my money and then so I don't like the thing They'd have to change is well I'd have to learn how to do this I don't know how that's scary what if I upgraded my neighborhood because I can afford to move out of an apartment and get a house and now all my friends think I'm Mr fanasy pants because I have a house and they're still in the condo or whatever it is and I think it's it's really about the fear of what
needs to have to change if they succeed and now it's a new level I have To maintain see the you know and I think it's Marian Williamson's quote about we don't fear kind of the darkness We Fear the light or or we we fear the potential we could be because then there's this this new standard that you have to hold if you have a fear of failing in public right so it's like the person that doesn't want to lose the weight because they don't want to put it back on and then publicly have a visual
representation of failure because Everybody congratulated on losing 40 pounds and six months later you put it right back on right or building a business breaking a million in revenue and then all of a sudden updating your LinkedIn to having saying I got a job at the dealership because my business failed so a lot of people play small because it feels safe especially the ones that haven't had anything they grew up with nothing and then they finally have something CU it's funny when they Started off they had these big Visions for their lives and then as
they make progress they might get to a level where they just decide to like oh now I have something to lose and they don't even see themselves change the way they believe they were they started at a better mindset than when they actually had wealth so most people stay broke because because it's familiar it's safe in I spoken to some people some people come once in a while to me for some Advice and I've seen people that I believe have a lot of potential and I think they they believe they have potential but then what
what happens is what you're describing where they start to kind of question they don't want to they they're so worried about the failure and not actualizing that potential and people saying actually you didn't have the potential that they hold themselves back and one of the things that I see some of these individuals Doing is they start to tell themselves these stories like hey money is not the the most important thing there's other things that are more important like if you you know a lot of I don't value material things and it's like this narrative to
like kind of diminish people that have found that success and it's a story they tell themselves so that they don't have to actually try and execute on the things that they feel they could do but are unsure of and that They're and they're scared of the actual failure more than they are of the success to your point I can tell you think about this a lot because that's a very nuan perception of it right I think about it because like there's some individuals that come to mind that have come to me and it's like I
know that they could do the thing but it's more of like they're so scared to do it and then fa and but you see them uh criticize other people because it allows them to Be okay where they're at yes or they're a forever student where they're saying I have to do the course I have to read B I got to do not even like even criticizing other people but just criticizing the like they the desire for the desire like oh material things aren't the most important oh you don't need money oh you can be happy
with where you are there's more like that kind of thing I'm like listen yes all of those are true yeah but if you're telling yourself that so That you don't have to go and try it yourself I think that's that's not a it was funny because the other day I do a hike every Tuesday in my hometown and i' bought a new uh car it's a GT3 it's a pretty cool car anybody knows cars and uh because it's manual it's a touring if you know yeah it's got okay I have no idea what you guys
are talk it's just it's just a beautiful if you know cars and I was even a Porsche guy but once I drove one I was like oh I get it now Especially manual but yes oh anyway all I care about is what color is it I know this is the thing it's it's actually a beautiful chalk color you you'd love it my wife loves it gold wheels yeah so after the hike my buddy's walking down and he sees it and he goes dude that's that's my dream car and I said well here's the deal because
I know he's been struggling with creating content I said you create content for 30 days in a row post every day and on the 31st day I'll Let you drive it and I could see in his eyes he was like he he he literally sold him down he goes no that's cool man like you know I don't want to do it and I and I asked like I thought about I like why did he do that I'm literally allowing him to to like he doesn't know anybody else with the GT3 is going to let him
drive it and he said no right it wasn't even the content because he probably would did the 30-day challenge for any other Reward and my interpretation from that is I think he's scared to touch his dreams because the moment he drives that car he can't now say to him I'm not a car guy anymore like he can't say to himself I don't really need that because he's probably thought about and this is an entrepreneur that probably makes a couple million a year like he could probably make it work to own that car but he's told
himself a story that it's not important and I was really Fascinating watching him sell himself against his dream so what did you call him out no will you I'm no I'm I I have this philosophy of being in the lighthouse not the tugboat ah talk about that what does that mean well I learned it in rehab cuz as soon as you know you go and you come out they tell you hey you're going to want to tell everybody about the gospel about being sober okay and the mistake is that you're still trying to learn to
Float and the last thing you want to do is let somebody else in your boat it's going to cause a Ruckus and cause you potentially both of you to go down right so the lighthouse is this philosophy that you know most people are tugboats honestly they they see somebody in their life doing something wrong and they run out and they tell them like you got to stop doing this our parents most of us receive the tug boating of our parents and that that does work I mean Some people just get annoyed and they're like okay
stop nagging me I'll just do it um the challenge with that is it takes a lot of effort and energy right if I'm a tugboat and I got to go out into the harbor and I got to bump into ships to try to get them aligned and in the right path it's just a lot of effort whereas if you think of the lighthouse the lighthouse stands there shines its light on the corner and provides guidance for all these ships and it Doesn't take any more effort for the lighthouse to shine its light to help one
ship or a thousand ships so every time I catch myself wanting to call them out I go back to my content I go back to social media I go back to giving to the people that want to hear it I use that story and I actually think it's it's a spiritual thing I think that the world will show us those opportunities to use those stories to help other people that are ready and my little secret sometimes Is when I tell these stories is that someday maybe they'll hear it huh but it will help somebody else
who are the people that you consume like is it like a Wayne Dy or you mentioned Maran Williamson like who are the who's like the person though that you were like this person has been like a thread maybe they're Dead Alive that you are like this is this is this is my lighthouse yeah I mean there's so many people over the years I think early days Was definitely Tony Robbins okay yeah um and then I would say the last then there was just like all the authors I've read over 1600 books so I I went
through yeah and I went through different like themes of like personal development to like hardcore business to um you know spirituality and Faith to philosophy and then probably three years ago I took I went on chat GPT when it came out I was just testing out I'm curious how smart this thing is and I Said what are all the books that are referenced in thinking Grow Rich and it gave me like 25 books and then I said well what are all the books referenced in those books and all written before 1937 I think you should
it's cool so it gave me the list of the 200 books that inspired or were referenced in the book that most people would say is the book and so for the last three years all I've read is those books so we're talking Psy psycho Cybernetics Wallace Waddles Ernest Holmes uh you know um Nightingale I mean just who's the one though that stood out probably Jim Ron he I love Jim Ron yeah Jim is my kid's unofficial grandfather Jim Jim ran is the one that inspired all of Tony Robin's content wasn't that his mentor yeah 100%
yeah he's amazing yeah I need to read his books I just consume his content I've never read his books I relisten in the car with my kids there's a 2hour 20 minute YouTube video of him In front of a green you know chalkboard and it's classic Jim rone you just sent it to me I would love to it's it's it's just it's a great start it's just his style is so folksy it's so clear he he has a gift and I think a lot of the best communicators have is to explain these fairly not complex
but hard to hear Concepts in a way that just become undeniable I think he his goal too is to make people wealthy with with money yes but also wealthy of the mind yeah the Mindset he's really good at that yeah um what do you do on a Sunday to set up your week to be the most successful week when it comes to time management so I have a process you know not to promote my book no promote it yeah buy back your time is the title that's by the way one of the reasons you're on
the podcast because I told you off air I'm obsessed with time management and calendars I love it you been screenshotting my Instagram and my shorts and I said I Screenshot your content because I love talking about time because to me time is the obviously the most important commodity that you have all we got so tell us exactly how you think about it so I have I have a unique philosophy that most people would have a hard time adopting but I can't tell you how much money it's made me how much peace it's brought me and
is the Cornerstone for everything I do and it's the concept of the perfect week so a long time ago it Occurred to me that it doesn't matter how much money I have it's what I do with my time that's going to dictate if I'm feeling good and I'm not about happiness I'm about fulfillment so then I had to be honest with myself and look at my calendar and say am I doing things on a weekly basis back to the rhythms of success that allow me to operate and feel and live in a way that that
feels good right because I think again I'm a better person if I go and I You know wake surf right it's one of my hobbies I love it or mountain bike I'm also a better person if I make sure I have date night with my wife every week I'm also a better person if I have time with my kids am I willing to do the work if anything my personality type I have a hard time not working so it was the some people have a hard time actually like dragging their feet to work and those
people might need to go to the opposite end but what I do is I've already Defined what the the strategy looks like for a perfect week in regards to placeholders right I sat down I have a whole worksheet I teach people and essentially Sunday to Saturday if this happened in a week I would feel like I won the week so on Sunday unlike most people that like plan their week my week's kind of already baked because I've already figured out what are the buckets of things I want to do in those times and as those
requests come into my Life they just get slotted into those spots does that mean that sometimes people want to talk to me on a Monday and they have to wait till a Tuesday y does it mean that my friends want to go mountain biking on Thursday and I go Tuesday nights yep so like I've just I've put you know you hear it all the time when you're when you're flying it's like put your mask on first before you help other people I just think people would be a lot happier and a better Version of them
for the people around them if they actually put themselves first right if you don't make plans for yourself then people will make plans for you so give us a micro example of like maybe walk us through Monday through Wednesday of what those the morning looks like the day give us the perfect week for a couple days yeah so at a high level I I have my morning routine that involves reading meditation kind of all the the normal stuff what do you Meditate to I just meditate to my vision like I I have a visualization exercise
where I kind of go through what I'm trying to create because I'm I'm trying to live in the energy of the thing I've already envisioned so like I don't want to live in Today's Energy I want to actually live in the energy of the thing I'm trying to create existing so that's where I go in my mind so I believe our frequency is what we frequently see so I'm always going to energy because I Don't think you know Jim rone talks about this we don't create our future we attract our future I'm on I'm on
the same frequency as you I very Joe dispenza yeah I love it yeah so like sometimes even today there's been some huge wins on our content side and and you know Sam's like I can't believe this is happening and I'm like oh no it we got to act as if we expect it yep right and you're going to double it yes exactly like we're just waiting for the Rest of the world to catch up so so that's like the morning routine but the biggest thing I do that's unique is I create every day usually the
first three to four hours of the day connected to my Creator so I'm a person of faith I everything I do before I came in this podcast I did a little prayer with myself I just I just I know that the best work I ever do is connected to a higher power and a long time ago that this might help people is I discovered That the energy that goes into my work is felt by the the viewer is felt by the reader is felt by the the consumer and I think sometimes we get we have
these structured so that's why like it's funny because people think I'm very systematized and I am but I'm very artistic in the thing I do in that time because I know that the energy and the set and setting matters so much to produce some of the best work like things that I create sometimes there's No way I could have made it up it was channeled or it was felt or there was a person I was thinking about when I wrote that book there was 25 names I wrote down and I I looked at those names
and I said did I did I solve the problem in the book for that person so like names of friends they were well my wife was on there my brother Pier was on there my best friend Nick was on there and then 20 some other people the guy that owns the local bike shop was on there my Buddy Rody was on there like just people I loved that again Lighthouse Tugboat the people that never asked but I saw that I wanted to help so all the stories in those books they're all all real stories I
changed the first name so the the real name is the first initials the same that that helped me keep everything straight you have three hours that is dedicated towards yeah pretty much I don't do meetings till 11:00 a.m. okay yeah I totally agree With that by the way but but I'm working I'm creating and I I have breakfast with my kids in the morning you know so I usually I get up at 4:00 I usually work till about 7:30 hang out with the kids yeah Four's early yeah but I go to bed early so people
go like how do you do that well I'm sleeping by 9:00 p.m. yeah so it's not that impressive and it's just something I've taught myself over the years right you don't start there you probably walk around pretty blur Eyed but that's like the first part of my morning and then for me and I like to work out in the morning as well like really you know the pump cures all like just get the workout in get it done and then the afternoon is where I interact with people because usually energetically I just that's what I
want I want to talk to people I want to I want to hang out right so that's where like meetings or whatever will happen but for most days um you know every Night I do this cool thing so I've got Tuesday nights off to hang out with my friends my wife's got Monday nights off right we have two kids so like having that reoccurring Rhythm so that she knows if she wants to take a night off to go to the spa or hang out with her friends or go for dinner that's always there that's hers
mine's Tuesdays uh and then most nights I put the kids to bed and it's just like figuring out what it is for me so I I work you know probably 50 hours a week sometime you know it's the work the work question is funny because like I don't do things I don't enjoy doing so like if working is flying here to Austin to hang out with you guys we sign me up all day long like this is fun so yeah it feels more like a hobby it's all a hobby and I think that's the whole
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house once a week somebody else you know pick up something for them like It's just I don't want to bug them I don't want to be an inconvenience I don't wanna I don't want to come off a certain way so like it all comes down to worthiness that's like the first thing because without that then you're not going to do the other ones so I would say the first one is really challenge yourself on what do you think your hour is worth or what do you think your time is worth your peace of mind right
like go to the gym if it makes you feel good And make it a priority and say no to people right including your spouse and your friends like go do that the second one is to really look at I think either the lwh hanging fruit in your business if you're an entrepreneur or in your home right so in the work life and I teach this in my book the replacement ladder at the bottom is Administrative type tasks and what happens is people hold on to these because they're not a big deal right it's not a
big deal I'll Create an invoice send it off I know so many people that do this I I did it like I wrote the book for me like I I needed to learn these lessons to eventually become free because if I was working 100 hours a week thinking it was normal and then I meet these entrepreneurs that had all the time in the world had way bigger companies than me and go like how are you doing they're like you don't have an assistant I'm like I'm just starting off why would I get an assistant they
were They just the argument was very simple it's like anytime you're not doing something that you could get paid more money for then you're working against your dreams I remember hearing that going okay if I could have paid somebody eight bucks 10 bucks 12 bucks to do something and I get paid 25 then I'm working against me yeah this sounds like sometimes people say this is privilege and they don't like this message but for example like I don't I Haven't gone to a grocery store like in years I mean I'll go once in a while
if I'm traveling something but like I don't go and I'll have groceries or Services pick it up and the reason being is not cuz I'm so great and it's so beneath me but if that is a hour to hour and a half trip for me and I'm setting an hourly rate against my time to your point I'm losing money by doing that trip and I know that sounds like a novel crazy thing to some people but but as you work And you build and you and you grow as an entrepreneur you build a business like
you have to allocate a certain dollar amount to your time and to your point you have to say yes or no to certain things that fall below that time threshold you're already doing it right because if somebody says hey I need you to paint my house you give them a quote so you valued your time yes the problem is is that when it comes to valuing your time for your own stuff it's fine I Always tell people like if you don't have an assistant you actually do it's you you suck and you're overpaid yep and
also like even going even further maybe you don't want to buy back your time maybe you just need space and Clarity to have thinking time the energy the re I need to just think it's not even about work or doing or executing I need space to think and if someone getting my groceries can free up time for me to think it's worth everything I also even Do it in reverse where I think about investment time where say that you aren't where you want to be financially and it's going to take you an hour and a
half to go to the grocery store which is going to stop you from doing a podcast or creating a YouTube or writing content or doing you know putting the time in the gym like I look at paying somebody to go do that service is time that I am now going to be able to invest into my future does that make sense it's 100% And so like some people will say well I don't have that luxury I'm like well now you're wasting that time and you'll never get that back and you could have maybe used that
time to get to the point where this is not an inconvenience or not a burden for you my my whole philosophy in this is a gym rone for sure right the market rewards people that create value they don't reward how many hours you work they might might pay you based on the hours but they're Actually rewarding you for the value I tell everybody in this company all the time I am not impressed with hard work like it's for the bees I every the the the hard work is the bar that like when people going to
be like well I'm I'm working hard I'm like yes of course I showed up on time yes of course that is this that is the stakes just to play the game yeah Michael's a fourth Japanese can you tell yeah but it's are you being impact Japanese are some of the most Impressive cultures I just went to Japan well there was no like I guess in in there was a I know we got in that culture it's pretty much like there is a right in a wrong way and the effort is not appreciated if it's the
wrong effort anyways but the point being is I you know when when I was younger I did this job I went and worked with a landscaping company and I'm just telling this story because during that time I would come home from that job I would be so tired That I would just fall on the floor and could barely pick myself up I got paid very little and the people that do that work like it's such hard [ __ ] work and so when I hear somebody saying like it's hard work there is you know there's
levels to what hard work is but at that time it was the lowest paying job I had ever had I'm not saying that to diminish people I'm just saying like the fact was I was working harder than I'd ever worked and I got paid less than I've Ever been paid right I worked at McDonald's at some point working harder than I ever work got paid less than and it wasn't until I kind of got that lesson like hard work is not the thing that's going to get you to the Finish Line like that's that's table
stti to your point but at some point you have to elevate and start creating outsid value for your time and and that that advice if people listen it cuz it's so it's so sage like what you just said is the Essence of it cuz like I also I did Roofing hard work dude like and this is like I'm carrying the shingles on the ladder could have killed myself on a roof it's sunny it's hot hardest work I've ever done lowest paid I've ever made and this is what Jim ran said it's like we live in
a society you know and he always us this is American dream I love the way he framed it it's like we have an economy this is how the economy works if you don't like it go start your Own country but if you live in the country this is how it works and we reward people that create value and it's not associated to time and it's not about being hard so the third thing that I would add to like how do they really understand how to do this is ask yourself what skill do I need to
acquire next based on where I'm at where I want to go that I need to start learning because then when you buy back that time to think better to buy back that time to Become more valuable you actually know so the mistake that most entrepreneurs for sure make is they'll hire somebody without knowing what they're then going to redeploy their time to go do and unfortunately some of them end up with Idle Hands then they're wasteful so you actually didn't get a return because you hired somebody to buy back 10 15 hours of your week
but you didn't know what you're going to do at that time ahead of time and then now you're just hanging Around watching Netflix you didn't say well I'm going to take this course I'm going to start working on our marketing strategy I'm going to you know figure out how to manage sales teams whatever the next skill is and that's where I think a lot of people don't understand how to build that personal development Loop Loop right cuz our personal development is what drives our personal income yeah and all that being said I think as you
start in your earlier in Your career like you're going to have to take lower paying jobs where you're acquiring these skills over time right like we're talking now 25 years of doing something like this where I've been acquiring skills Lauren's been you've been acquiring skills but in the early days it didn't look like this no and I even think like an example I would say is there were some periods of time in our lives where I would just sit and read and consume other things to learn How to do things and I wasn't getting paid
for that time but again it was a future investment into upload may not even know how you're going to apply it of course but it was it was the thought process was I want to be able to do more than just manual labor at at some point and I want to be able to get paid for my time in a better way right you had trust yeah and I think you know it if you're not thinking about that and you just kind of stay paycheck to paycheck and You never think about evolving and upgrading what
your time and what it's worth it starts to feel like this crazyer wheel yeah what is your third tip for the audience that was my third tip is the self-reflection most people have dreams but they haven't asked themselves the question of who do I need to become because if you already were who you needed to be to achieve the goal you would have it it liter like it's really That simple like we all know how to do what we do so if you took it away from us we could do this really fast most people
when ask them how much faster it's three times faster so you've already become the person who can do what you do right now this level so if you have aspirations to become more if you're only making 50 Grand a year you want to make 100 you got to ask yourself well who do I need to become skills character traits beliefs to be a person That creates that kind of value and that's the unfortunately that's what again back to your why did people stay broke they don't ever ask themselves that question they don't ask their boss
they don't ask a friend like what do you think I need to do to make an extra 10 bucks an hour well clearly stop complaining really you think if I stop complaining maybe I make yeah because you don't get the promotion because nobody wants to work with you and They're not going to give you a leadership or management role if you're the complainer they they're like oh geez I got to stop complaining so that to me is the third part so once you value yourself and you understand where you can kind of start freeing up
some time right and I'm not saying you got to pay for it you can just stop you either stop doing something that's taking your time you can ask your kids start doing stuff Like my kids take care of themselves you know I have a person in my home that takes care of my wife and I that does not do the work for my kids okay I always tell them they she works for me she don't work for you guys I'm say I'm using that yeah yeah yeah 100% if you ask my kids are you rich
they say I'm not rich my dad's Rich you know I took that from Shaq I think it's the coolest thing he ever said so the third part is the reflection because without the Reflection you don't see where the Gap is and that's that's what will give you at least a plan to hopefully go become more Dan what where can everyone get your book I also think this is a really great book to listen to on Audible if you're in the car thank you where can everyone find it well most people that read the book want
an assistant and they always ask what would I get them to do so if anybody wants to get my internal sop this is the one I work with an it's 47 Pages it's it's cleaned out and you guys can get a copy um just find me on Instagram it's my favorite place follow me on Instagram and if you message me EA skinny confidential I'll literally send them the Google Doc link no op didn't know nothing I'm going to send you EMA it is awesome cuz once you see yeah once you see it you'll be like
cuz most people just don't know what they get them to do I have my five my five Northstar principles in there I've got The whole inbox management system my travel system it's all there all my preference files and then you go oh I could see how somebody could take care of 30 hours a week for me so I can go do more of the business stuff I do that's genius to have like a blue print for what an EA looks like oh yeah I've got I've got Sops for every part of I got a house
sop I'll give you guys that one we're going to read this and I'm also we're going to walk out and give this to Our EA as well let's go that's actually why it's done so well is the EAS have been reading it and talking about it as the kind of the operating manual for the we have an incredible EA um so I think that she'll love this I would love to get your um your EA guide and also your house manager and you have to send me and I'll link it in the show notes the
Jim ran green screen the YouTube yeah yeah him on his chalkboard um where can everyone find you on Instagram Yeah Instagram and then the books Amazon everywhere it's actually continues to sell more copies every week than the previous week which has B yeah it's been a year and a half now it's been out so let's see if we can sell a few more for you here I would love that I mean I'm just my mission is to help entrepreneurs build companies they don't grow to hate did you wear blue to match the book I always
wear blue ah I don't like to think about stuff that I already thought About I literally was just listening to this billionaire speak I forgot who it was and he said the number one tip is if you want to be super rich is avoid decision fatigue okay I was gonna say we the because it's it's funny I always joke that you can't be a billionaire if you don't cold plune oh as a joke and I think some people think I'm serious but it's it's the decision fatigue is that concept right it's the preferences it's it's
I just want to make a decision once And then if people can just follow it then I can work on things that require the brain power Michael always wears a white shirt unless we're on vacation and he pulls out a whole [ __ ] new closet with the same way man I'm the same way when I go on vacation when I go on vacation I go on vacation I don't think about it cuz I'm like listen I'm not going to do it that often when I do it I'm doing it you you disconnect from the
old you're on vacation the Brain is free the creativity comes out sub like get off me let's go I also think I could tell you go to the gym sometimes I like taking a week off and coming back I feel like you get more strength that's interesting like a rest week I haven't done that in a while but I'm not opposed guys here pretty big don't you think like a rest week sometimes we train hard we're actually going to gym right after this you guys all lift Everybody in our studio lifts do you know I
lost 60 lb lifting weights and eating bows of meat yeah macros I love lifting weights and I'm super I'm trying to not be a tugboat to everyone I'm trying to be a lighthouse just be be so undeniably fit that people just that's that's why like for me anytime I think of like trying to criticize somebody that needs to stop looking chubby I just go do I still have the bicep vein yes cool am I going calf vein next am I Going tricep vein like how obnoxious but try try like I know it's we had um
we've had a few guys on here talking about this but you know if you're into the gym you get so addicted to that process it becomes part of the routine but I think honestly to get some of the gains taking like a five day or a week once in a while like not all the time but once a quarter maybe he does do this and then you like you come back like you think you're going to lose it but you actually Come back stronger it's weird my trainer told me when I just took this week
off he said wow you can do five pull-ups and I could only do three we went for a week and we place where the break like makes you the recovery makes you like so much stronger a reset I'm curious what Sam thinks Sam is so hardcore workout Sam how old are you 23 okay yeah Body Works different yeah he works Different you can tell like it's so weird you can tell when people lift oh and I think like whenever I meet someone then you can just tell especially not I don't say you're older but like
you're not 23 right when I see guys I love that you say we're similar age and I'm seven years older than I appreciate it just they told me the other day that when I was their age they weren't even born so that really Got to me well does everyone that's listening know that weightlifting gives you human growth hormon so that it makes you look younger people don't understand being a tug at 30 years old you're going to start to see it's a little hard to maintain see there was some wisdom in this room but no
I mean um you can always like when you see someone like okay like they've still got it together you could tell there's discipline you could tell they're like you know they Take themselves seriously yeah that's why I always tell my clients like and and the bicep vein is actually a joke that we play with them because I want they don't realize that that just it kind of is like a reach and reputation of your brand is that it goes ahead of you like before you even open your mouth people are like oh this person listens
to themselves because go because discipline yeah you wouldn't look like that if you didn't have discipline so if I'm going to do business with you then of course I want to be in business with somebody that at least does the things they say to themselves I do a weird thing I won't listen to any successful entrepreneur if their body is keep a mess High you know why because I'm like listen like it seems like you've got it you've got all this money in this great business but everything else is disaster I'm sorry I'm going to
listen to Tony Soprano all day long I love ton sabran Is a fictional character listen I respect a lot of these people that have built great businesses but I'm like I can't follow your blueprint of life because everything else is falling apart you can you yeah I'm not taking marriage advice from Elon Musk Dan Dan T buy back your time go follow him on Instagram thank you so much for coming on the show come back anytime