I Investigated Thailand's Ladyboy Epidemic...

God gave for me, you know, like beautiful fat but big dick. These are lady boys. Hi.

They're born with a penis. They look like women and they've been taking estrogen since their teens. Am I looking at a man, woman, or an entirely new gender altogether?

Would you be mom or dad? I can be both. What age did you think you were a girl?

About like eight or nine. We should not take this space for the real women. I'm top.

She's bottom. Am I gay? No, I'm not.

I'm not interested in men because I see you. Before I talked to lady boys myself, I pulled up to Bangkok, Thailand, the capital of Lady Boys, to hear what everyday people think about this cultural phenomenon and if it differs from America's view of transgenders. No matter how many surgeries you have or chemicals you inject, if you're born with male DNA in every cell of your body, you can never become a woman.

Would you be upset if your son became a lady boy? Yes. What would you think?

Yes. You would cry. Yes.

Okay. Okay. I will let they be what they want to be.

Whatever. I am gay as I'm proud to be gay then. Okay.

Yes. And now you can legally get married. Well, I'm not going to marry.

Okay. That's a scam. No, I understand.

Okay. Now, uh the world is uh open. Okay.

Open open world. And it's it's not a problem at all. And like now day is very acceptable because I I think they are fun and they they are not a bad people.

They they most of the time they make benefits for the country too. Would you be happy or sad? Uh I would say happy.

Happy? Yes. Why?

I have a lot of friend. Uh lady boy. Really?

Yes. Do you think she's pretty? Lady boy.

Lady boy. Yes. How do you know?

I know this one like a seems lady boy. Is that your final answer? Yes, sir.

It's a lady boy. Uh, lady boy. How do you know?

But I look uh He's zooming in on her breasts. Yes, she's beautiful though. Beautiful.

You think she's beautiful? Yes. Yeah, she is.

Yeah, she's pretty. Lady boy beautiful. Are lady boys culturally accepted here in Thailand or just tolerated?

Yes. Yes. Yet Thai open.

Of course, mostly we accept them. Is there any stigma associated with lady boy? Not really.

Same same have many many girl and ah many many yes boy and boy is general in Thailand is normal for me in when I'm in high school I always have my my friend that uh lady boy I really love to work for them and then she they always play volleyball very nice fast and like a lady and but can put uh the heat the bond very strong so they try like a man and they polite they I don't know but I have good good attitude for them yeah it's acceptable I think uh most of the people are can be like openly like so saying that they are lady boy it's not stigmatized or looked down upon they're not strict at all and like people like hanging out with lady boy also because they are fun and it's very open here why do you think that is I think because Thai people they have like so many people come from uh many places and I think when you come from many place right you want to see like uh the culture right and when the listener I think it's very accepted because when we open for a new culture too we want to be ready to [Music] learn because here is a free free country people can control country control uh people live life. I am Chinese. I very very like Thailand and the Thai people.

Yeah. Do you know any lady boys? Yes, I have a friends.

Really? Yeah. Did they tell you like, "Hey, I'm lady boy.

" No. I think I we could know it by ourself. Yeah.

Okay. You can tell. Yeah.

Yeah. Would you be a lady boy in China? Oh, no.

No, no, no. Would you go to jail, get killed? Uh we can we can call the boy very cute or uh he has looking like like a girl uh but he as boy he's still boy.

Yeah. No transgender. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Some of people in Thailand still not accept the lady boy but much much most of the people in Thailand accept them.

Okay. They're like they are a human also. Okay.

Bangkok. Okay. Okay.

Would you date a lady boy? No. No.

No. Okay. Would you date her?

Uh, she's currently in a relationship. I would not. I would not personally if I knew.

Too bad for you. But I think four or five drinks I wouldn't be able to tell. After seemingly unanimous tolerance of the concept of lady boys out here, it was time to meet one of the most famous lady boys in Thailand.

Shinny. I'm Sheni. That's right.

Lady Boy Thailand. Welcome to Bangkok. And I want to bring your boyfriend from the backyard.

Roman, come on in. This man interviewed you and now he's dating you. How long have you guys been dating?

Roman, say hi. Hi. Hi.

Yeah. Uh, we're dating for a while now. Uh, and uh, we're very happy together.

Were you surprised you guys became a thing? Did you know you were into lady boys? Is that And is that offensive?

Um I I I don't think he into lady boys, but like uh Yeah, because he have girl. Yeah. Are you straight?

Yeah, I'm straight. I'm straight and I'm dating Chini. Viewers, do we agree with that statement?

Do you think there's any dissonance with that statement? Does that does that make sense? Uh I think it makes sense if you think about it a little bit longer.

Like it's a little bit can be controversial, but I consider myself straight. But before we debate Roman sexuality, I want to hear about how Shinny went from being a man to a lady boy and what that even means. But real quick, have you ever gotten in a car crash that wasn't your fault or gotten hurt at work?

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Back to Lady Boys. When did you transition genders? I think I transition when I was like uh se like 15 14 something like that and then but I I already know myself like even like I'm not taking hormone yet I already know like oh I am a woman you know like this is my energy when I was a kid so you know what did mom and dad say they are support me they don't stop me but they one time they asked me if I want to have kid or I want to have family or something like that but I said like no I'm a woman something like that you still have the machinery to create a child.

You could impregnate a woman. Maybe in the future. You could still have a family if you so desire.

I think yes. I don't need to be dad. I can be mom.

Ah, okay. Would you be mom or dad? I can be both.

I think a lot of the viewers looking at you are like, "That's a pretty girl. " Mhm. But you're not a girl.

Mhm. How did you get to this point? How is this possible?

How are you possible? I think, you know, maybe it's because of like how I, you know, taking care of myself. You know, some lady boys or some transgender in Thailand, they just, you know, some of them don't take hormones.

So, they don't look feminine at all because they prefer to be like that. But for me, I prefer to look feminine to looking like a woman and attract a man. At what age did you start taking hormones?

When I was 14. Yeah. 14.

Mhm. What did your parents say about that? Actually, I didn't ask because like I know this trick from my my, you know, my friend from high school and they just tell me like, "Oh, okay.

If you take this, it's going to make you look pretty. It's going to make you like more feminine. " And like, why not?

I want to look feminine, you know? So, they just take it and then the rest is history. Yeah.

I can I can have both as well. How did you get estrogen at 14? Just in pharmacy.

Really? Yeah. Wa.

Okay. That's way different than the states. Yeah.

I think like uh first we look feminine and I think maybe it make you a little bit like moody, you know. Okay. You started getting those womanly.

It's it's like a woman have period, you know, like do you get a period? I get possible. So at what age?

What was the earliest age you knew you wanted to become a woman? Seven. Seven.

Eight. Something like that. What was the thought that went through your head?

I think I feel like even like when when I was a kid, I still feeling like attractive to to a man. It can be gay, but like I don't know is is what people design after what they want to be because like after 14, you can decide what you want to be. That's a big decision, right?

You're actively changing your gender. Do you think you're ready to to make that decision at age 14? I think like uh maybe I'm not ready, but I think like I'm not wrong.

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Interesting. You're saying if you were born again, you would want to be born as you were and then you changed. Yeah.

I want to be a lady boy again. That's what Oh, so you don't want to be a woman. You want to be a lady boy.

Explain the difference. I don't know. I am some kind of the kid who like to break the rule like why women should be with women or why men should be with men or why men should be with women you know I just think like what if I'm I'm a lady boys and I'm like I attract the guys and I have friend as a girls why not and you have a penis what is a woman the woman is a feminine woman And I don't know, it's important to know that here in Thailand, the term used for a lady boy is katoi.

It describes a gender identity distinctly different from both male and female. And it's a concept that can be found all the way back in ancient northern Thai creation myths that describe three genders, male, female, and one that has traits of both. While some believe ktoy to have special shamanistic abilities and some Buddhists believe lady boys are a consequence of some previous sexual wrongdoing in a past life here in Thailand every lady boy seems to be fully aware that they are not women per se but exists in a third category altogether.

Do you think part of the unique appeal of Sheni is how womanly she looks yet she has a penis and is a man? Yeah. Yeah.

Is that why you're interested in her? Like I think many people are interested in the combination, you know, it's like a new new product of a woman basically. Uh for me, it's a little bit different story because I I wasn't interested in lady boys that much before I met Chini.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

But but many people are coming here because they're interested in lady boys. I think what's interesting about you is they might be like, "Oh, cute girl. " like then they tap the profile and then they learn you weren't born a woman and you may have a penis.

Mhm. Do you think that's part of the whoa gotcha to some of the the guys that find you on social media or even the women? I think many people confuse but like uh for now people going to remember that like I'm not a woman.

So, some people react, you know, like, okay, that's cool. But some people react differently like shock or tell me to [ __ ] off or just being rude, turn up to being rude, but some people just like, okay, they respect, but they don't like it, so they just let me know. I don't worry with that, you know.

I just like just being normal, you know. Do you think you've caused a lot of men to question their sexuality? No, I don't think I don't think that I make him understand.

But he says he's into women. Yeah. Yet you have a penis, which in my book is a critical part of a man.

Mhm. So he's dating you. He says he's straight.

We'll take his word for it, but you have a penis. Mhm. There's something.

If there's a spectrum, I would argue you're somewhere on the gay end of things or bisexual. What would you say? have uh I I can consider that maybe straight can be divided into categories, you know.

I can consider that. But am I gay? No, I'm not.

I'm not interested in men. Cuz if she looked like a man, you would not be attracted to her. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I would say.

If you're not a bottom, I would argue being attracted to you who is a very feminine looking is a very straight thing. Maybe I can agree to that. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I'm top, she's bottom.

Yeah. There you have it. What about what about couples uh like peg?

Yeah. Yeah. I would argue if you're pegging, you might be more gay than you dating a man who looks like a woman or a lady boy.

Yeah, I can agree to that. Yeah. You're basically like, I'm attracted to a beautiful woman.

Yeah. And my retort to that is, okay, I agree, but if she has a penis, is there some element of bisexuality or homosexuality? You know, it's a penis of a woman, not of a man.

See, this is where things get interesting. That's an interesting answer, right? Yeah.

And I would argue back that if a guy out there is getting pegged to taking something up the butt, that is more gay than dating. But also with pegging, right? Like I don't know if it's gay like like it's a man and a woman, right?

We'll we'll move on since we're in front of the temple. I'm maybe getting a little bit sacrilegious. So we've concluded that you would date a very feminine man.

No, that's not what we concluded. Don't put words in my mouth. So So okay, that means then in in your eyes, Shinni is not a feminine man.

She's she's something different. If we're talking biologically, then yes, Shini is a man. But, you know, it's a little bit more complex than biology.

Like, before Sheni, did you only date women? Yeah, I only dated women. Yeah.

Do you think you're gay? No, I don't think I'm gay. I mean, I I know I'm not gay.

I'm not attracted to men or masculine features or anything. So, Chini is not a man to me. Like, I'm not dating a man.

I'm dating a woman. I'm dating Chini or you know, at least we can say I'm dating trans women, I think. So, you know, we're getting lots of like hate comments, right?

And I think the majority of these people are very curious because if if this keeps popping up on their feeds, you know, they they want to watch it. So they I think they question many men question their sexuality uh when they see beautiful lady boys. You know, most of the men that have hit on you historically.

Are they all straight? Of course. 100% straight.

100%. So you've never had a gay man be interested in you? Gay man?

Yeah. I think there have some interesting in me but like I'm not not my style. Not your style.

Your type is straight men right? My type. My type is Yeah.

What is your preferred type? Like someone who are not into transgender. This is crazy.

So what do you say to that? Uh I can see I can see why. Yeah.

Because uh there there are guys who are into trans like who are into lady boys and they're like uh I think for for lady boys it's more appealing that if someone is straight you know you're happy. I don't think it's a big deal to be honest. Like I think people um have the perception that is like a big deal.

It's like oh like you're gay you're not gay. Like I feel fine you know like for the record if you are gay who cares and if you were gay who cares? But it is an interesting conversation, right?

If Shini had a vagina, would that change any level of attraction you have to shiny? Or did it just so happen that Shini had a penis? Yeah.

Like uh that would be the same. So I'm like Yeah. Yeah.

Of course. More more convenient for me for sure. This makes sense.

Tonight we're going to meet some of Shiny Boy's lady boy friends. Yes. I want to hear their story, too.

Maybe you're going to invite them, too. After having a PhD level conversation on the complexities of human sexuality, we pulled up to Bangkok's red light district to see if any lady boys were working the streets and if so, why? I venture to guess this is some sex work.

This is some of the more underground work. Um, will we see many lady boys there? You will, but like mostly is girl.

Oh, really? Yeah. What can we find in Soy Cowboy?

Uh, oh, the most disgusting stuff in Bangkok. What do you mean? or the most delicious stuff.

Depends on what you like. Okay. Yeah.

Knowing you, I feel like it'd be right up your alley. Yeah. Like some people might like it, some people might hate it, you know.

I Can you tell the viewer what a ping pong show is? Ping pong show? Uh oh, yeah.

Ping pong show is another experience of Bangkok. Very controversial. So, I've heard it's where women use their vaginas to conduct a unique art form and do all sorts of acrobatics and uh archery and all sorts of stuff.

Yeah, exactly. Um lots of uh lots of foreigners sit there and watch women perform all this crazy stuff with their vaginas. Uh and I've been there once actually with Chini.

She took me there and it's uh it's traumatizing. So, I'm noticing some old men with some some ladies. That's sex work, I presume.

Question for you guys. Um, is anyone here a lady boy? No.

Okay. We're trying we're trying to interview like a a lady boy outside. Like a working lady boy over there.

Okay. Thank you so much. Okay.

So, I noticed that was a bit of an awkward question. Me asking, is anyone a lady boy? You want lady boy?

I want to pay a lady boy for interview that's working the street right now. Cowboy too. Okay.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Come.

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Sorry. So that way I'm going to interview a lady boy. Okay.

Okay. All right. All right.

Hello. I'm trying to interview a working lady boy. Oh, I know.

I'm here with world famous Shini. I know. Yes.

What is your name? Alise. Alise.

Yes. And you? My name is Tyler.

Nice to meet you. Good to meet you, too. Thank you for being a part of this.

Where are we at right now? Right now? Where we at?

Where we at? Yeah. I'm working here for dancing or dancing.

Sometime I work go with customer. Yeah. You you are lady boy.

Yeah. I'm lady boy. I am.

Yes. How long have you been lady boy? Young girl.

Young girl. How did you end up working in red light district? Two years.

Two years. Yes. Um why?

For my family. Is it is it very common that that lady boys end up having to work for their family on the streets? Yeah.

I have to uh give money for family. Okay. Yeah.

I take care of family. How are the customers? It's good.

Good. Yeah. Okay.

some some customer. What What is most of your clients? What nationality are like?

American, British, Australian, German? Anything? Anything?

Yeah. And how long do you think you'll continue working in the red light district? How much longer?

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

Not sure. Okay. Yeah.

Do you feel happy and accepted as a lady boy? As a lady boy. Of course.

Yeah, of course. because I'm a boy when I'm younger. How young?

Uh nine young. Nine years old. Yeah.

She said was she's working in the red light district to provide for her family. Do you think most women want to work out here or they kind of have to? You know women most women who work in the bar, they are kind of like look after the family money.

Sure. To the family and like to support. After getting a taste of the red light district and being threatened to have the cops sicked on me like dogs, it was now time to relax with a few drinks and meet up with Sheni's entire squad of lady boy friends.

Did you take like estrogen? How did the transition process actually work? I'm curious.

I start to take I think maybe like 16 years old. 16? Yeah.

And I take like uh anda pokinoa to make myself look like a girl. But I don't mind if like the gay like me or like you know just love is so easy to like to love someone something like that. Love became genderless for you almost.

Do you still have a penis? A penis. A penis.

What does that mean? Uh how do I translate penis? Dink.

Dink. Oh dink. Dink.

Okay. Okay. Penis.

Dink. Okay. Okay.

Do you have dink? Yeah, I still have. Okay.

Okay. Is that is that a very common do? Most lady boys have dink a case by case.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Lady boy always like always have dink.

Have dick and I have like big dick. Oh, big dick. Big dick.

So, in your experience, most lady boys have massive shalongs. I am not sure. But for me, I'm big dick even on estrogen.

But God give for me, you know, like have like beautiful fat but big dick. How big is the dink? Me?

Yeah. you first. If you want to know, do you want to know for me?

Tell you first. If I was on like a a gas station boner pill, maybe like maybe like uh man, if I'm feeling optimistic, I'd be like, "Go on down the road, you fuck. " If you want to support our boots on the ground independent journalism that is not bought and paid for by corporate interest along with exclusive DLC content that YouTube won't let me upload and uncensored early access to all my videos before they go up on YouTube.

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You're 20. Yeah. Okay.

You're young. You said you guys met at a beauty pageant. Yeah.

last two year ago. Yeah. I feel like maybe their love, the way I walk, the way I talk, the way I consider myself, this is how the falling in love.

Do you make a lot of men fall in love with you? Oh, I guess so. Is that the case?

You tell me. I don't know. What's going on in your DMs?

Well, I got like maybe 1,000 messages per day, every single day. What are you? What do you consider yourself?

I consider myself as a identity as a lady boy. So I don't really mind. I know when I was born I was a male, right?

Sex born I was male. So I'm so proud to call myself lady boy. When I look at you I see lady.

Well, but I imagine there's a little bit of boy. You haven't see all of So what I look like now is women. But maybe when I have no clothes it you can see.

Dink. Yeah, he knows about that. Yeah, Roman knows.

Roman, Roman, Roman. What lies in your future? What are your dreams?

What are your aspirations? I want to become a singer. Can we hear a a note perhaps?

Oh my god. No pressure at all. But might as well.

Hell, life's short. Just start. All right.

And I coming home when my body pins a mess. And I miss your ging hair and the way you like to dress. Baby, want you coming over?

Stop making a fool. Why don't you come over? [Music] Wow.

Wow. I could. You were quiet with it, but I could hear the angelic tunes like that of an angel.

Thank you to close your eyes. Wow, you have a nice voice. Would you have preferred to be with the women rather than separated all together?

No. None. Hell no.

No. Cuz the way we growing up, lady boy and sex women completely different. Completely different.

And we should not take this bait because our born sake is it different. We should not take this bait for the real women. I see.

Okay. Her spate. Americans love debating about that.

Nissa. Nissa. Nissa.

What do you do for a living? In the past, in the last 5 years, I've been a content creator like uh more specifically in olifans industry and now I shift my past to be um podcaster. And now you have me curious what what people were most interested in your in your um your services.

Probably those who were curious about their sexuality know questioning themselves like am I still straight if I into you know if I get turned on by by this person. Yeah that's that's basically how it starts. So there are like some dominance ones or the also submissive ones and like to fulfill their kings, right?

But for me specifically, it's about the dominance. Can I can I even say say it please? Well, it's uh just be honest.

Well, I have a massive dick. So, and I have a bunch of [ __ ] just hit on my face every time on every video. So, that's how I hook them.

I guess you have a mega dink. Uh yeah. What are we talking here?

We talking 12 in. Um, I'm talking about 7. 5.

There's a lot of guys out there that are a little bit jealous of you right now. Do you think God wasted a gift on you given that you are a lady boy or is it does it kind of work out? Of course, I think it's a gift from God and it's like it's meant to be.

I mean, I was born with this. It could have been much harder life if I was born with a micro penis, right? So you've used your dink to your advantage even as a lady boy.

Yeah. And I mean it comes with a lot of uh sacrifice as well. I think nowadays it's more open open for those who look like u more masculine.

And what I mean by sacrifice is that I have to stop using hormones in order to get hurt. So it's like if I cannot I cannot maximize my femininity, my preference not to uh overly use hormones otherwise I get like um mood swing. You know, you've had to find the balance between testosterone and estrogen.

Yes. And your feminine features that you're gaining while retaining and your other masculine features. Yeah.

On a personal level, have you dated any straight men like our friend here? So most of We love you. I mean, most of my whole life I only attract straight men's or guys who are into femininity.

It's like a kink, you know. Do you feel disrespected to be viewed as a kink for some men? Well, it is a fact though.

So, what can I do? You know, we are associated with the I mean sexual kind of world anyway since the beginning. Those guy who defend themselves on social media.

Trust me, those guys who make a bad comments, they probably on my only fans. So, I just keep doing minimal procedures. But you like using your dink and being a lady boy at the same time.

Well, it's not like I like to use it most of the case. I just use it for work. What do you mean by that?

I'm not [ __ ] another guy. So, that's that's I see you're getting Yeah. So, you don't need your dink.

I mean, I still like to be sucked, right? Oh, it's like the instinct of biological male in me, but it's been pressed out by the hormones. Anyways, Emily, when did you become a lady boy?

I would say that it's like a long story just the fact that when I was young, I have a girl neighborhood like a girlfriend something like that. I used to play with the girl for the whole time when I was so young. So, I don't even know.

You're a boy. Yeah. I kind like e off those feeling that oh my god, I want to be a lady.

I want to be a girl. I want to have a long hair like her. One day I think that I'm not a boy but I am a girl.

What age did you think you were a girl? About like eight or nine something like that. Yes.

Oh, that's very young. Thankfully my my family back then at that time they they they not trying to stop me anything. But on the other hand they are more supportive.

You know it's not easy to to be a lady boy or to be something which is not a man or a woman. You know what I mean? But you have dink.

I still have yes. Big dink. Above average.

Tell me some of the surgeries you've undergone to look more like a woman. Um to be honest, now today people what they are doing forehead surgery which is like um as as as a man's like facial like scale, right? It's kind of like a bony face.

So they put like a silicone on their forehead to look it more feminine like a like like a lady. That's what is very popular right now in in in Thailand. Do you think there are some dangers associated with the hormone usage?

Absolutely. following like a mental health issue after that it's like you get mood swing and you know it's emotional easy to cry easy to get mad and sometimes uh especially for those who don't have uh the community their friends to share about this thing with I mean that can be really difficult for the person I also I don't believe that parents I mean this is uh based on the US right like I don't think the parents should uh push them their kids, they shout too hard to to transition, you know, because, you know, most of my friends, they realize after they've been using their their penis and they all of a sudden they liked it, you know, but looking like a lady boy and being a lady boy, but also liked using their penis. Yeah.

I mean like uh Okay. I can feel also for those who decided so early whether it's for their own choice or their family they regret after that. What age do you think is appropriate to start the hormones and and start a sex change operation from your experience?

I think the hormones uh since many Thai Thai transgender we start since very early right. I would say around 18 for the transition of course should be after 20 period.