Candace x Bassem Youssef | Candace Ep 298

All right, you guys. I'm so excited about this episode. I am sitting across from somebody who I should mention is extremely jealous of me. And I'll let you listen to what he had to say to me in his own words at his recent show. And I was even nominated to be Anti-Semite of the year 2024, but I didn't get it. I didn't win. You know who won last year? Anti-Semite of the year? >> Candace Owens. >> Candace Owens. Yes. Candace Owens. Yeah. [cheering] [ __ ] DEI. [laughter] Some liberal walk. You had to give it

to a black woman. Yeah. But this year, you know who who got the anti-semite of the year this year? >> Yeah. Tucker Carlson. Yeah. White power. Josh. Yeah, baby. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, [laughter] baby. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. The The planet is healing. [laughter] And actually one of the nominees for the anti-semite of the year this year was Misreach. Imagine you and Mr. Rachel having one thing in common and that thing is anti-semitism. [laughter] >> The world has gone a little bit ridiculous. I do have to say that's one of my favorite accounts because I feel like

it's Forbes 30 under 30. Like every Time they mention anybody there I'm like, "Oh, I should be following this person." Uh they're what is it? Stop anti-semitism. And it's never [clears throat] anti-semitism. The count is a parody of itself. But I do want to say it wasn't DEI. I did I I think I just performed better in 2024 than you did. >> I'm just jealous. >> Yeah. You're jealous. >> I'm I'm bringing my jealousy to the Show. I'm bringing my jealousy to Nashville. And I'm I'm just very upset that I didn't win. That's Well, that

would be like my the award that I would have really deserved. >> I know. And you tried to get all of your people to vote for her. Like you tried to skip the system. I didn't even ask people to vote for me. I won it fair and square. Um, in large part thanks to the fact that I was fired from Daily Wire that year. >> And you had a little something to do with it. >> Did I? >> You did. Actually, this is a story that I've never told, but I or I think you had

something to do with it, but I I was not allowed after I had watched you, and we should show that clip in a little bit, but you were my wakeup call to what was happening in Gaza. So, I watched you. It the clip went crazy viral. You were with Piers Morgan >> and this is why comedians are the best because you were not fighting. You were agreeing with him. It was like dark humor and you held up a chart and asked what the going exchange rate was for Palestinians. You were like, I agree with Ben

Shapiro. No, I agree. No, obviously we got to like we got to kill these sons of [ __ ] and here's what we did this year and this year and this is how many of them had to die. And seeing that chart and going, wait a second, What is going on? Why are this many Palestinians dying? Woke me up to the fact that there was a huge part of the conversation I wasn't aware of. And so I went to my producer time and I said, "We should get this guy on. He's going viral. I don't

know who he is, but like I really would like to like just hear the other side." And my producer ran it up the chain and came back to me and said, "We are not allowed to have Bass Music." And I said, "That's weird. Why?" And the answer I got was because you hurt Ben's feelings. I'm not kidding. She got it in writing. >> That I heard Ben's I'm Ben. I'm sorry. >> Yeah, >> I'm sorry, Ben. I hurt you. You did. I've heard your feeling. I'm for sure. I've heard your feeling. Here's the thing about

Ben. I'm going to say this in all honesty. I think Ben Ben Shapiro is a very, very, very talented individual because he's a very Confident liar. He just lies very easily and he lies so good that I feel ashamed that I can't believe him, >> you know. And and the thing is he's a fast talker, right? You know why he he's a fast talker? Because facts cannot catch up. He just [laughter] like >> they never catch up. >> He just he talks. You know how fast he talks? He's like a robotic frog. And actually, if

you hear like like Men Shapiro, it's like someone actually sped Up the the voice. >> Actually, if you slow him down, you'll get a normal voice because as he speaks very quickly, the truth is still buffering. >> Truth is [laughter] just still buffering. >> Yeah. And and I'm I'm I'm actually like I'm I'm very surprised that I heard Ben feeling because Ben says like the the facts don't care about your feeling. >> Yeah. Well, >> but but with Ben, they don't care about the truth either. >> Yeah. And so that's one of the things is

he never actually debates adults. And so it was a time where I genuinely wanted to learn more because I I was astonished by what the chart that you had showed and I was going whoa whoa whoa. I've been to Israel. I've been in the orbits. How did I just miss this entire thing? And surely there must be something else. And once I host a debate or have a Different discussion, then I will see the Israeli way and be able to better defend my positions. And then I very quickly learned that you're not allowed to go

down that path. You're not allowed to start asking meaningful questions. And then of course I did become really hateful. I tweeted uh genocide is always wrong. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> How how could you? >> I don't know. Just add >> genocide is always wrong. Every single word of this is >> I know I was is ground to fire. But here's the thing. I have I have three different stories about Ben Shapiro to show how talented he is about changing the facts in real time. The first story happened very recently in Turning Point,

USA when a young kid came up like gentleman. He said he asked started asking about the uh the bombing of the USS Liberty >> and the way that Ben Shapiro answered he was just lying through his teeth very quickly >> and he started to say well there has been investigation and it was obviously wrong and it was obvious and it was it was proved beyond any doubt that it was a mistake it wasn't it there was a lot of investigation where they weren't actually the crew of the USS Liberty were threatened they were they had

a gag Order. They couldn't talk. And you know the beauty about this is that for 15 years, Israel fought this tooth and nail and they finally paid compensation. You know how much did they pay? >> $6 million for damages in the USS liberties and $6 million for the victims of the USS Liberty. This is the value of USS soldiers that were killed in that. And you can see him as he was de debating the kid that he was just making things up. It it it was already proven. It was already behind the bridge. It's the

past. That's the first one. The second time he was on the morning show with uh Charman the God. And Charman asked him does is did Israel commit genocide? And he started going through this Jordan Peterson word salad style just speaking very quickly having like big talking. This is not the genocide because they intend. And then you can see Shman looking at him as like that [ __ ] is lying but I cannot say How. You know he he's looking at you like this guy is lying to me but he cannot pinpoint it. The next day

Media Hassan came on the show and he went through details. Why is Israel committing genocide but if you're there and he's speaking too fast you don't know what he's saying so you cannot respond. And the third watch story is my favorite because this was a premeditated manipulative manipulative lie. He talks a lot about how Hamas uses the aid from The European Union to create weapons, right? That's his whole thing. And then he brought in a video with Hamas and the the Palestinian authorities in Gaza digging out water pipes and say, "You see, these are the

water pipes that are put in by the EU and this is Hamas extracting them and making weapons from them." The beauty about this clip that this clip had an Arabic narration. It has Hamas officials talking over it. And they said that they Discovered water pipes inside like being dug from inside Israel to steal their water. So when they discovered it, they dug it out and they used as weapons against Israel. >> So he took like a video knowing exactly what's their narration is and he changed it. And actually, shout out to Wii Rashid. You actually

brought like a video from him in your show before about the the little moles, the little Israeli nodes in the malls if you remember. >> Yeah. Like little spy nodes in in the US malls. >> That's right. >> So this is like three example how this guy lies intentionally. He lies with purpose. He knows exactly what he's saying whether it was like if he's put on the spot or he's asked a question that he has to make up or he's making up a complete fake fact outside out of thin air. >> Yeah. And it's it

I mean I don't really I I always start by saying I'm gonna get in trouble, but I just I don't really care because I think >> I think >> I think humanity just needs to be over all of this. Like the >> the fear of telling the truth is something that is so scary to consider that so many human beings are allowing terrible things to happen because there's this like quiet fear that you'll Be penalized for speaking the truth. And I just g that's what I gave up in 2025. 226 can. I'm not I'm not

keeping anybody secrets. But to your point about the USS Liberty, just to to show you how far this goes in terms of protecting the secret, I hosted Phil Turney sent me a a letter and one of the survivors of the USS Liberty. When I tell you it was the most meaningful uh sit down I've ever had in my life. And um I rarely will I say that like everyone looked like they Were going to cry here when he went through and what he lived through. And you can't you listen to him, you just know he's

telling the truth. You don't even need to hear anything else. the the emotionality still lives in him and from time he was 20 and now he's 76 that he just wants the story to be told about what happened to his mates on that boat and I did this episode with him met him looked him in the eye cried with this with him he gave me his purple Heart and then I got sued by the Daily Wire. This is after I left Daily Wire because during his sit down he brought up two names during our sit

down. Obviously I have no idea what this man was going to say. Uh it was not in his letter that he sent me, but he looked um he looked at the camera and he said, "And I'd like to call out the people that are saying that this was a hoax." And he said, "Charlie Kirk said something." And I'm was always very Close to Charlie's dear friend of mine. And he was like, "And Ben Shapiro said something." And they sued me. >> Wow. >> They sued me for allowing a survivor to tell his story. And they

were making a psychic argument that I put him up to it. like I could ever be so disgusting as to manipulate a man to say something so that I could like I mean it was and and then I had to actually call Phil after this and say I I'm going to court And I know this is I I would never want to ask you but like could you would you be willing to testify that I didn't put you up to say something >> but just to show you the extent like to to manufacture reality >>

that you're we're willing to attack this guy twice I mean twice calling this guy a liar twice And it's just I couldn't believe it. I we were so far. I mean they I was being sued left and right for them for Everything. But that I thought I was just like this is and this was Jeremy Bor Jeremy Boring being at the helm of the Daily Wire. >> Boring. >> Yeah. Sent me that lawsuit on his birthday as a birthday. >> Very boring and predictable. There's going to be a lot of s like suit like you

know lawsuits for this episode. Hi. [laughter] >> Yeah. And I just I gave it up last year. I said this is crazy. this is how we got into this to understand what's happening in Gaza to see what Jared Kushner is doing there. This was a real estate deal and they are what they're willing to do in America to make sure nobody remembers the Palestinians. You can already see getting laws passed how we're going to retell history. I mean they're saying it on stage. >> Yeah. Like Mike Pompeo went on this thing and he said like

the way that we Going to remember October 7th is not going to how we remember today. It's very important that people remember this as Israel being the victim because there was no victims in Gaza and they already have uh I have a friend of mine who went to the a film f the can film festival last year that one year after October 7th uh and they were already have pledged over $200 million to produce TV shows movies in order to retell October 7th from the Israeli point of view >> and uh they are changing history

in front of us right Now, and I think this is not just about what happened or what happens in Palestine because of how people saw the gas lighting happening in real time and how the lying is happening in real time. People now are reconsidering everything they were told about history from World War II to JFK to 9/11 to the Iraq war to because we have seen an Olympic level gaslighting because Israel doesn't just lie to hide The truth. They lie recreationally. They just do because it's fun for them. They just it's and and and the

way that they they they they just they just like lie to wear you down because now you look at all of what is being told to us like how can you believe a country that is has a very lucrative history of false flags operation >> right um there's actually two false flags operate there's there's many of them first of all you have like the Bombing of the David King David hotel >> in Palestine 199 like 92 British soldiers were killed and the people who did it were people from the Hagana gang and they were dressed

as Palestinians. 1950 1951 there is a a Jewish Israeli author called Aishlime. He's an Iraqi Jew and he wrote three books about the plight of the Jewish people in Iraq. And the plight of the Jewish people in Iraq was not caused be by Iraqis. It was caused by the Israel and Musad because When when when they created the the state of Israel, they didn't know how to bring all of these Jewish people from the Arab countries. It was easy to bring them from Europe, >> but they didn't but but the pe like Jewish people in

Iraq and in Egypt and Morocco lived there for hundreds of years. >> So they needed to push them. So 1951 1950 1950 1951 Israel sends a Musad agent And then he leads four to five different bomb attacks on Jewish synagogues and Jewish communities. They killed their own people >> October 7th >> and yes and then that happens in Iraq and then because of that 150,000 Jews went in in just like a year and a half to Israel and then the same guy that Israel went sent to I can't his name escapes me now >> after

Iraq he went to Egypt and he led the Lavon affair in 1954 and you know what's funny about the Leavone affair uh after the the the sleeper cell this the the ispun asel was discovered, Israel denied it, denied any connection to those people of course for 51 years >> and then in 2005 they finally acknowledged it by giving the participants in the Lavoon affair operation participation certificates >> like an Amazon card or something. >> Yeah. And then 1994 the bombing of the Israeli embassy in London. It was done by Musad and then they nailed they

kind of nailed two Palestinians for it. Uh one month after 911 which is the biggest full flag operation in October 2001 there was an attack of the Mexican parliament by two Musad uh individuals and they were also like being they they pretended to be Palestinians but they were discovered before the bombing. >> Yeah. >> So you see all and of course we have the Bondi uh the Bondi attacked. I think I gave pictures to one of your producers like Arson Arstrovski who's like one of those trolls on Twitter. He happened to be on October 7th

a survivor October 7th and then he post his picture a selfie while he's on the floor and he has blood all over him. Yeah, that's the picture. Okay. Which is obviously looks fake. And then the best picture is the next Picture when he's all bandaged. Can we get Yeah. You see there's not a single point like like drop of blood on the bandage and there's no selfrespecting medic that will actually leave a face like this trench of blood. they will have to clean it first. This is how >> how how can you believe a country

>> that lies 24/7 like this? How can we take anything that they say for for face value? >> Yeah, it it's scary. It it is actually Scary and I will say that and it's um you know that's why I think for me to try to understand it I had to figure out what is the guiding theology here because this is obviously not Judaism. This is like that will not kill. You can't just violate that commandment and over and over again and then keep insisting that this is about I'm a Jew. I'm a Jew. And the

further that I went back into history and would see how there were little edits to books and I've now done my book club and I encourage people to understand the founding of Hollywood because what you're talking about is a troop of actors, performers. They were the carnese. They were gypsies. They will become whatever they have to become to amass power. And I I have been like virtually pleading with the people who are Jewish and stand up against Zionism to learn this because these people appear everywhere in different Countries. They will learn languages. They will, you

know, we're Catholic today, we're this tomorrow. And it's it's basically what Hollywood is. If you think about it, it's one big psychological operation. All of the movies that they make, they make sure they get into the classroom. They're brainwashing your children to believe that they're always victims, that that nothing else ever happened. And then when you start to learn real history and You start to ask questions and you for me learning uh more about the Bolshik revolution and then going, "Hey, but where did all these Bolsheviks go?" Oh. Oh. Oh. Uh BB Milikovski. Uh now

he wants you to think that he's just uh Jewish and there's nothing else to see here. No, this is uh they will become whatever they have to become. They are like their brains are their their [laughter] brains are wired. It's a pathology. Their Brains are wired to lie. Zionists. They are. It is I've never seen anything like it. To not feel anything when you lie on people, when you smear them, people you knew, people you were friends with, people who like Charlie Kirk, what how quickly they can flip the switch and be guns out and

want to ruin you. That is not normal. And we cannot pretend that that is normal. >> 100%. And I actually want to say something like on behalf of a lot of my Jewish friends because they suffer from this too. A lot of my Jewish friends who see that their identity and their religion is being hijacked by a group of people who are very selfish who just like use this as a victimization tool. It is like exactly if Muslims saw people from ISIS and Kada suddenly hijacking our culture, hijacking our religion, but now they have money

and power to actually make this the mainstream. >> And a lot of my Jewish friends are feel that they're silenced, they're sidelineed. We have seen a lot of like Jewish artists, directors and and and and actresses and actors, they go on and they speak up and you see what happens. They being called an anti-semite the next day. one of my uh love closest friend Matt Leeb he's a he's he's a comedian he's a stand-up comedian he has like a whole show called uh Bad Husbbor and he just talks about like the husb Techniques he told

me that >> at the age of 26 he was like a raging liberal zionist >> and he went on a birthright trip to Israel >> and then the one thing that he flipped him he said like we were like a bunch of 20 years old and then we find that the main speaker in our event was Benjamin Netanyahu accompanied by Miam Idlen. It's like, wait a minute, this is too much effort. >> This is too much effort to get this in. And then he went back and he started to read more and he's like completely

now he's a anti-Zionist Jew and there is many of these people and I and I and I feel so bad that they have to it it just they can't help it that not to take many of this on themselves >> that that that that all of these stuff that that those dinos people do kind of reflect on the whole community. But there are so many people who just like Sick and tired of being grouped with those psychop >> because they're not that's what I'm saying. It's not a religion. It's it's it's a political philosophy and

that's why it's so important to separate it. Like Zionists are just triedand-trude psychopaths. There's no way you could look at what's happened in Gaza to look out at what they did, how they told us they were going to do it, talking about real estate deals. I mean, you and you Got to pull this up, Skyler, when you get a second, just some of the video footage of what Gaza looks like today. And then to look you in the face and feel nothing and say, "No, that was necessary response to October 7th. >> There's something wrong

with you." And then when people when they can't train people to be inhumane alongside them, the viciousness with which they attack people for being human, that's why I say I I I can't wrap my head around it. I I Actually wonder what happened to these people when they were kids because something inside of you has flipped. This is not like any person should have a humane response to seeing Here we go. Some humane response to to seeing what they've done. This this is and that's not even that's like >> that's before >> that's Yeah. This

this is basically when they got started. I mean they have raised this city >> and >> now there's nothing. >> Yeah, >> there's nothing. >> The blackmail, the Epstein stuff, the defense of Epstein, gaslighting us about Epstein, and you go, okay, uh it's literally I don't care if you are Jewish, if you are Muslim, if you are Christian. I mean, obviously I want you guys to be all be Christian, but can we all unite to recognize that we have Satanists among us? like this is this is this is a satanic philosophy that you have to

be worshiping death to to be okay with. >> I have a question for you as a Christian uh like because we just talked about a a small group of people hijacking a whole faith which is Judaism. >> And now similarly you have all of these evangelical Zionists. >> Yeah. people who go to Israel and come back and they just like brainwash their Their their followers in the churches and and it it when I when I look at videos where inside the church the only flag other than the American flag is the Israeli flag and then

there is a there is a a viral uh video clip from a documentary called Till T till kingdom comes and the pastors are talking to the little kids. You say like Jews are better than us. They are more special than us. >> They are not like us. I mean what kind What you are a man of God and now your mission is to tell your congregation that you are not special enough >> that there's people from another religion that are more special than you and we are and it's like basically you basically going and giving

giving away your life saving to the church only to have your kids listen to someone say like hey guys you're like you're nothing >> you're you're nobody and there's other people who are more worthy than you to Be holy >> I don't know how that works. >> It doesn't >> I'm not evangelical and I think for the first time many people that are evangelical are waking up to that and I and it's incredible to say that is in large part due to the Charlie Kirk assassination >> and us looking into the story looking into the

pastors that he surrounded himself with. And then we kind of looked Into what this Cavalry Chapel church was. It's it's a military operation. I mean this is literally a CIA operation. uh people like Rob McCoy who was you one of the pastors that purported to be close to Charlie. He wasn't actually Charlie uh couldn't stand him toward the end. So that's another big lie that I turning point should come out and tell the truth about. But he his father ran psychological operations for the Navy. >> This entire church, Calvary Chapel Church is a CIA story.

Okay. They a place for hippies to go. Who do you think created hippie culture? I mean I give people the books to read. You got to read chaos. It's a must readad. understanding what they accomplished in the 60s. Lol to anybody who thinks that suddenly a bunch of people just wanted to smark, you know, smoke pot and, you know, leave their families and go play guitars out in the west. I mean, the 60s that that entire decade is was all about Military exper experimenting with social engineering and social engineering via things like the Manson murders,

uh, social engineering via establishing churches. Everybody's welcome here. But what is the underlying goal? The underlying goal of many of these churches, too many of these churches, is to commit people to Israel uh by any means necessary to believe that they will not be saved unless they worship Miriam Mson and BB Netany and Yahoo, Which is wild. Miriam Mson's money and wealth comes from debauchery. >> Debauchery. I mean, what are we talking about? They built Las Vegas >> and Only Fans. I I um >> godly. I I I I I went through a rabbit hole

watching a lot of these pastors uh talking to their congregation and it just it shocked me how they talk down to their own Christian uh congregation and tell them uh how special Jewish people are. >> And it's okay that they spit on Christians. It's okay that Israel, you cannot build a single church inside Israel >> because we know God told us all of that. God has told us that Israel will be in so entrenched in sin and it's a sign of the times and it is our role to be next to them until God bring

them back to the right path. Why? And and until that happens, it's okay to kill all of these people. It's okay to give all of your Money to that entity and if you don't bless Israel, you're going to be cursed. It is just like the the mental gymnastics they use in order to bring their own people, their own Christian followers down in order to be loyal not to God, not to Christ, but to a political entity, >> right? No, it's it's it is it is upside down land, but I think it's it's being fixed and

it's being corrected. And like I said, it's in large part due to people Learning the pressure that Charlie was under. And he this was a person who was evangelical. He was a Zionist. Uh he truly and and I know that you have an opinion about Charlie uh and the stuff that he was doing, but I can tell you that Charlie was genuine in the same way that I always say to people, I obviously regret that I worked inside of Zionist organizations. I I regret my ignorance. I shouldn't say I regret that I worked there because

I actually believe that God put me there for a reason because I had to see it from the inside and I can give people now clarity on how these things work. But I I regret that I was ignorant about what was happening in Gaza. Uh, and I think people should know that Charlie, me, we were genuine in our support for Israel because we genuinely believe we were being told the truth by our friends. >> Yes. And and I that's the reality of I I I I have I have I have a couple of Issues with

Charlie. I mean, you know, God rest his souls and I hope that justice will be served to the all of the people who've actually killed him. I do agree that he was kind of starting to wake up towards the end because he started asking the question especially on the PBD podcast he said but he said something that I said in the first appearance with Piers Morgan I said like Israel is the size of New Jersey and why would it take you 6 hours for a response Where you can go there get there in a helicopter

by 20 minutes >> and that's like a very simple question >> but if you ask that that's your anti-semite but my my is and he asked other question about the the standown orders he he he started talk about like the aid. He was coming from a America first point of view, which I I I respect, but I my my issues with Charlie were a couple of things. First of all, I think you already saw the video when I Said he he he kind of falsely claimed that if you're a Jew going to like an Arab

neighborhood in Jerusalem, you're going to be stabbed. >> And now I understand that this what was told to you. >> Oh, they take you on a tour >> on a tour and they brainwash you. But the other two things that I I I you know again he he's he's now between the hands of his creator. But uh when he said close to his death, well you know Muslims you like they throw gay people out of high buildings now there's no high buildings in Gaza anymore like stupid Muslims. And that hurt a lot of mus of

Muslims seeing that clip. That was a very clip. >> Yeah. It's it's a very very very um terrible. It's like, yeah, like you know, like you have no buildings now to throw gay people from from above it, stupid Muslims. And then the day before he died, he tweeted saying that Islam is The sword the left is using to slit America's throat. >> So he w he didn't he wasn't he was he wasn't liking us more and I understand that because maybe that maybe he will be on his own path if he was given the time.

>> Charlie didn't run his Twitter feed. Andrew Kovette did. >> So I just want to say that he gave that up. That is interesting. I don't remember him him tweeting that but he Did think that it you know the threat of Islam he totally believed that and he spoke about that several times and so his >> but you at a certain point you also had very negative ideas about Islam you I remember you saying >> it's a part of the package so it's like when you go like I was saying on this tour to Israel

it's so weird to revisit it cuz I just I don't think I'm an idiot but apparently I was just accepting everything that people that I thought were my friends and were Zionist were telling me because they're very good at playing the part like they are your friends and they want you to be good and they want you to like you know avoid the traps like they're guiding you and you're new to politics and let me try to look very quickly so you understand what's happening and here we are just trying to open an embassy that's

what me and Charlie were there For here we are just trying to open an embassy and like look at these terrible Muslims that are like throwing things at us and trying to murder people at the border and you're going to be safe and we've got security for you to make sure of these terrible Muslims so it's it's it's literally a psychological operation and I want people to know that you have to separate the people that genuinely believe what they're saying versus people who are quite literally being Given money and are defending psychopaths when they when

when it's it's very obvious. And I think October 7th, fast forwarding to where we are right now with all of the uh information that's now out there now that this argument, this debate has kind of arrived on the shores of America, meaning people are getting fired, excommunicated, being smeared, people that you know, you now you the the information is accessible. And Charlie Was changing. That's the reality. He just was. And they tried to bury this. And he he said no. Here's an interesting fact. When BB went on a little mini tour and went on everyone's

shows sometime in August, Charlie didn't let him on a show. >> Charlie said no to BB Net and Yahoo. >> When BB wanted to take Turning Point to the next level, Charlie said no. >> Okay. To BBNet and Yahoo, who is a gangster. You don't get to tell BB Net And Yahoo know. We all know this. And so I I just want people I just want people to know the truth, which is that you and obviously I released text messages. They've left me no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause. Now, does that mean that

he would have been like not eating up everything going on in Minnesota and still would have been working through things? Sure. Of course he would have. >> Yeah, he was he was looking at things Through a certain lens, a very right-wing >> uh very Christian nationalist lens. I I understand it. And again, he was young. >> Mhm. >> And maybe if he was given time, maybe he would have like crossed over to to the other side like you and said like, you know, I now I believe that everything I said about I don't know. It's

a kind of a farfetch, but >> we grew up with 9/11. >> That was the ultimate psychological operation. They made us stand up every day in school at 91 91. >> When they found the passport just like laying around, >> but we were kids, right? Think about how young I was. So they know how to make an impression. When you're a child and you're scared, you don't when you don't know anything and you're scared, it's the perfect time to make an impression. Well, we'll take care of you. We're Going to make sure those evil Muslims

don't come in the country. All you have to do is take off your shoes and your belts at the airport and no more evil Muslims will get you. And you're like, "Okay, what do I have to do to comply with that?" That's a psychological operation. That's why when we even revealed yesterday, you know, part of these these Erica calls 5 days after her husband died and she's appealing to Turning Point USA, the employees of Like, you know, it's okay. I'm going to protect you. She uses this exact same strategy. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to

protect you. Your jobs are safe. We're a family now. After a trauma, it's it's trauma bonding. There's a trauma and you don't know what's happening, but I'm here to keep you safe. >> Now, work your ass off and bring me some money. Charlie's Charlie's with us in The office. >> In the office. [laughter] >> In the office. >> Don't go home. He She literally says he wouldn't want you at home sitting on your couch. >> He's watching you as you are alone with your sock in your bed. >> He's dancing. He's dancing in heaven [laughter]

when you are in the office. >> Oh my god. I can't I I I can't believe The choice of words. It just This is like emotional blackmailing on on steroids. >> What do you think? What What do you think about Erica Kirk? >> Erica Kirk? What do you think about Erica Kirk? >> Would I Would I get sued? [laughter] >> Throw it in the throw it in the pile. >> I I don't want to say anything that's controversial. She did it. But I don't [laughter] >> She was on it. >> I don't want to get

into >> I don't want to get into She's part of it. >> I can't wait to get But but I will never I will never uh say anything negative about [laughter] >> What do you think? I mean, just on the outside of this, looking in as someone who was not a fan of Charlie Kirk, I actually appreciate hearing that perspective more because I I I see my Own biases going into it. >> I wish I would have Erica Kirk's grieving power. >> She grieavves like no other. >> Yeah. >> I wish I would had that

kind of composure grieving the people that I love like that because it she gives hope to every one of us that it doesn't really matter. >> [laughter] >> And do you know what's funny is they Were using the same going back to the psychological operations where they're telling us to like suspend rationality and this is supernatural and this is because like God is with her and that like I mean even when she said to Jesse Waters that she didn't even need to take a sleeping pill she didn't need to have a glass of wine that

she slept she said she slept fine and accepted that this is what God wanted so instantly and there's something about that that is chat GBT Christianity where it's like you just going to keep saying God wanted this. It's like no, being Christian is is the we're we are flawed. We we we are not. Of course, you're going to contend with God. You're going to bargain God. We don't get it right. Of course, you're going to ask questions. Why? Why did this have to happen? We're not we're not perfect. We are not Jesus Christ. >> What

is bothering me even more than Erica Kirk is that uh I mean Erica is Playing a part, but there is people who are supposed to serve the American people >> like the director of the FBI, Mr. Cash Patel who even before he got into office he said America needs to wake up and prioritize Israel which is a very weird thing to say. >> He lives in Las Vegas >> by FBI director >> with a dude. >> Oh that the honey we should >> No he doesn't live with her. She lives here. >> Oh my god.

Oh she lives here and he lives with Oh he's the FBI director and I'm I don't know. I mean I'm I'm a new I'm a new citizen here. >> I'm just stating a fact. I'm I'm I'm but but but oh in Las Vegas is this is where you know the Israeli cyber security guy was also found out to be a pedophile and then he was let go. You know what's so funny about this story? I'm sure that Everybody knows here about like knows this story. The the there's the head of the cyber security in Netanyahu's

office. He comes to Las Vegas and just like you know to pass time he was found with a minor and it was a sting operation but then he was allowed to leave. M >> this happened in you know what's the most important thing about this is that not a single media outlet reported that this ever happened >> ABC Fox News CN CNBC CNN nothing if you have a foreign country who supposed to be your ally sending high security officers here and they are not not just once many times and they're involved in pedophile rings and

they're allowed to leave >> but that's okay because we need to talk about the Somalis in Minneapolis. We need to talk about the Arabs in Michigan. It just And then you have like the the act the acting DA who happens to Be an Israeli national >> who let him go. >> And nobody talks about this. And this is why this is how they brand you to be a conspiracy theorist. When you start talking about stuff that's not circulating in the media, you become part of the fringe. >> Yeah. >> If you're not into this, if

it didn't happen in the mainstream media, that didn't happen. Anybody who repeats that He's a psycho, he's a conspiracy theorist, he's a flatearther, whatever. But it it is and and now this is what I found out about coming here to the United States as someone who comes from the third world country where we are used to censorship and we are used to you know not telling the truth as it is here. Nobody will hide the truth but they will choose not to tell it and they will tell other stuff and give it a bigger mic.

So the the Someone like Jay Clang or uh or uh Tommy Robinson whatever they go and they they they start doing this agitation thing they will find someone like Elon Musk with like tens of millions of followers tweeting it and now becomes news >> but they will never say anything about the other stuff. So everything that you are faced with in the news is that the stuff that they want you to see they will not hide it like hey we have democracy but we'll not talk about it. Mhm. >> This is how they selectively push

the the the narrative like what happened October 7th. I call it shock and all. You know how America went to the to Iraq and they used shock and all like extreme attack. They do this decapitated babies, babies in ovens, pregnant women having their and it becomes so much of an emotional shock >> that if you start questioning it, it's Like how come you question babies getting decapitated? you're anti-semitic, you don't like, you don't care about babies. And this is how they pushed it and and then becomes it becomes the news. >> Yeah. I mean, that's

Soviet propaganda. And this goes back to what I was saying about the Bolshevixs. I mean, one episode I we were speaking about even the things that they told us about World War II and the things and they panicked And it was hilarious because in a couple of months later, Awitz Museum comes out and says the stuff that was said about Joseph, Dr. Joseph Bengal, a lot of it was made up. He never did these things. He was actually a before all of this respected doctors museum put this on their website and um >> and they

changed the number from 4 million to 1 million overnight. >> I mean it there's been a lot of changes but you're not allowed to know history Or how the numbers changed and I I was grateful to sit down with Norm Finkelestein and I asked him about that question you know because he's like my parents uh one of his parents was in Awitz and the other parent was I'm blanking on which of the other camps they were in and he said he acknowledges it. He's like, "Yeah, of course." He said, "My my parents told me some

people were taking the tattoos off and some people were putting them on, you know, People that I believe were laundering their names." I spoke to him about this uh making themselves victims and they actually were the perpetrators of a lot of the crimes that were happening against Christians, mass murder of Christians, which we're not allowed to talk about. That the number one victims of World War II were not Jews, it was Christians. And when you say that, they get so angry because they have worked so hard for decades to manipulate people in The classroom to

believe that the only victims that have ever existed in history were Jews. And that's just on its face false. And it is a lie. And we have to do a better job of getting out the truth. >> And by the way, I wouldn't even mind if that was the story. Yeah. >> But the fact that they used that in order to inflict Holocaust on other people, people Palestinians who had nothing to do with Okay. Holocaust 12 Million Jews were killed. M >> whatever. But like that didn't we didn't do that. The Palestinians weren't part of

it. You were actually pushed onto them and you would actually kill other Jews in order to prevent anything else from happening. Do you know the crisis of Petraa? >> Petraa was a ship that came from Europe that has 1500 Jewish refugees 1940s and the port of of Hifa. And then the Hagana, which is like is one of the Israeli the Zionist gang, they blew it up because the British authorities wouldn't let it go with it like the dock and they wanted to actually divert it to >> Maitius. >> So they bomb it and I think

like they killed 150 Jews, their own people. They didn't care about Jews being killed in Germany, by the way. They didn't care about they they used them as a bargaining chip in order to create Israel. So it's it's it's not it's not Really about being Jewish. They don't care. They don't really care. The same same way like ISIS fighting that they don't care about Muslims dying. >> These are Satanists. We're not fighting Jews. And I and I I always make that point of going backward and looking at the actual guiding theology. I'm going to take

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and they have a way of delivering a point in a way that is not controversial and it makes you go what is wrong with us as a society. It's it's dark humor and they are they are the best at it. Take a look at this. >> The question is what is a proportionate response because it has been different from one year to another. So if you look To this graph for example, this is the death of Israeli and Palestinians and it's changing from one year to year. It's like fluctuating like crypto. So my question is

today, what is the going rate today for human lives? I mean 2014 was a great year for Ben Shapiro. 88 Israelis were died and there was 2,329 Palestinians killed on the other side. That is one Israeli for 27 Palestinian. That is a very good exchange rate. What I'm saying is what is the exchange rate For today. So you guys will be happy. Hamas has absolutely no control in the West Bank and since the beginning of this street only through August 37 Palestinian kids were killed. >> No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas. >> Since the

occupation of the West Bank, 7,000 Palestinians were killed. No music festival, no paragliding, no Hamas. This is the problem. Israel always victimizes itself. And I have never seen a victim Putting their oppressor under siege and bombing them 247. Israel wants you to believe that they are the victim. Is dealing with Israel is so difficult. It's like being in a relationship with a narcissistic psychopath. He you up and then he makes you think it's your fault. I have two questions. The question is how can you justify the killing in the West Bank where Hamas does not

exist. And if the disproportionate response during the over all of these years have Actually worked, what will be new this time that did not happen before? I just want to that that was my question. >> I mean it's brilliant the ch I mean just looking at it and going wait a second there's no Hamas there. Why are we just killing Palestinians for fun? >> And it was just brilliant. It genuinely was. It was brilliant. >> Well, they're they're continuing like the Gaza war never ended. The ceasefire never happened. They actually they Killed more children since

the ceasefire more than >> Israeli kids were killed since 1948. >> Wow. Can you imagine in in in in 3 weeks they killed more children from the Palestinian side more than Israeli kids were killed all through 75 years. >> Do you know what I I always say to people and I it astonished me that they they can't think through this. If you think just because it's happening over there like you're going to agree with These people. You're going to back these people up. You're going to maybe take a a check $7,000 maybe it's $100,000 uh

to attack people that are are standing up and saying this is wrong. But you can't be so dense as to think that they won't kill you too. That's that's what's mindboggling. You realize if they when they want America, they'll kill your kids, too. >> Isn't that happening also? >> I mean, isn't like ICE has been trained By the IDF? Isn't that the same tactics that used by ICE and used by many of the police departments, they get trained? They're actually one of the ICE offices when they did like locations like kind of they find that

the location of one of their field office is in Tel Aviv. >> Yeah. >> Why do we have ICE offices? >> I think it was the Department of Homeland. >> That's that's kind of a couple of months Ago. the the the the ice is just like a recent two days ago. >> So why are all of these American insecurity entities are you know playing out from Tel Aviv but you know the question is stupid because it's you have all of these billionaires Peter Teal, Alex Karp, Larry Ellison they they just like they are they have

a like a weird affair with Israel. They they openly donate to the IDF. They openly have their headquarters in Israel. They they pump huge amount of money. They they use their technology in order to kill more Palestinians and they they they use Palestinians as rat labs in order to to to test these AI advanced horrible lethal weapons. It's it it's it's terrible. And now >> America is using it. America now is invading the world. And I have to tell you as an immigrant, as a new immigrant in this country, >> I'm enjoying it. I'm like

I'm I'm for The first time I'm on the side where history is happening to somewhere else. It is amazing. I'm I'm I'm telling you, I'm I'm kind of getting used to this feeling of being in a country that can do whatever the hell it wants with no consequences. It's a great feeling. >> It's amazing. I mean, I it's it it I have this kind of I I don't know. It's it seems that people from the third world who came to country, their childhood trauma is now Our country's foreign policy. [laughter] >> Sadly. Yeah. Sadly. And

I I just don't think people understand you you can't go halfway with a psychopath. They don't feel anything. They kill people. If they kill a child and then you defend that, how why do you think your kids are safe? I just don't understand the common sense of that. >> I'm I'm telling you, it is such a difference to live in a country like America that can invade half of the World and still host the Olympics. I know >> they can go and invade your country and then the next day it's like you know I'm going

to host the FIFA World Cup and I'm going to deny your people [laughter] entry visa. That is like one huge boss level kind of control >> and and now but now I'm actually happy that that's happening to Denmark and then we're going to get Greenland >> because now I know it's not about brown People. >> Yeah. It's it's I don't even know what we're doing anymore and I'm like we I I was got behind Trump. We're supposed to do no new wars and then it's like BB's like here's what you're going to do. Here's what

you're going to do. Obviously, look, he took Mary Mson's money and so I just don't I don't even pay attention anymore. >> I'm just happy because now I know that America doesn't see color, it sees Opportunity. It it doesn't hate like Muslim people. It just hate underutilized land. >> Well, what do you [laughter] I mean >> do you think like America is now like like the America America is like the HOA of the world. It's like we see that you cannot use it. >> It's not true. I I promise you it is not America. We

might have been brainwashed, but this is very clearly like an Israeli empire and LBJ murdered JFK. It got his Boys in there and took over our military and everything else is just noise and Hollywood and manipulation. And now it's cracking. And now people are looking up and going, "Wait, why are we being so controlled? Why are our kids being led to believe that they have to support Zionism? Why why are uh why am I not allowed to make a decision about whether I I think this or think that?" The fake algorithm pretending that people are

popular when they're not. And so the Mass awakening has them a bit panicked. They they're making a lot of mistakes right now. Case in point, going after Miss Rachel seems like a unbelievable mistake. But I do think the biggest threat to the their empire is the awareness and that's why they're like sloppy. Like we're just going to buy Tik Tok. I don't think the money is the real power. The illusion, the trick was actually the illusion. We all believed they were the victims. We watched the Movies. We were our kids were we were in the

classroom. We bought into the 9/11 rhetoric. The danger for them is when all of a sudden they go 330 million people, if that's something America now, wake up and go, "Wait a second. I actually think what you're doing is pretty horrific. What's what's their next move?" >> I'll tell you, American citizens now are waking up to the fact how easy it is to go from a first world country citizen to A third world country citizen. Because here's the difference. people in the developed world in Africa and Asia and Latin America. We all know >> we

know the people in power they are corrupt. We all the people in power they they they are terrible. They they they they have all kind of bad things happening but we cannot speak up because it's too dangerous. >> So we shut up but everybody knows. >> In America everybody knows and everybody Can talk. You can talk but we dare you to change anything. So you you vote, you talk, you protest, you go online, nobody will put you in jail. You feel like you participated, but the end result is nothing changes. They look at you and

yes, we the Epstein files. Yeah, >> there's victim. Nothing will happen. You have evidence. You have evidence about Epstein. We every single TV show, every single comedy show is making fun of it, but nothing's really moving forward. >> You see the difference? Yeah. I'm I'm giving you this margin of liberty, but do you think you can do anything with the liberty? What if Trump tomorrow decides he's going to run for a third term? What will happen? What? A federal judge who will just like put some What will happen? What you going to get the military

to remove him from office? What will prevent them from from kind of in putting like enforcing martial laws or starting to take your liberties? We have Because the word has been desensitized by how much violence that happened in the Middle East that now people are kind of like there are they are they are desensitized. >> It can happen to us any time now and and and >> do you think that they're going to do it? I I mean you you said that what is the next thing we have seen this we we've seen what they

can do on the level of the universities because like three Years ago you wouldn't even imagine that American university will be having the same treatment that we see in brutal dictatorship that would justifies military intervention we have seen uh people losing their jobs losing their careers being beaten being arrested being shot having uh NYPDs and LAPDs is having Israeli special operations officers on site with them. What would prevent them from doing that outside of the University campus? You see it it it is it is the same thing happening but we're you're moving very slowly there

because because the moment that they lose control when there there's no more Tik Toks to buy, there's no more HBO's or CNN to buy, there's no more >> ways to put in them, you will find the system becoming more and more brutal. >> You think so? So, I would say they do seem to becoming more brutal, but They're also becoming brutally stupid. Meaning that, okay, so the goal with having people go in there and oh, we're going to drag you out, you're kicked out of the country because you said something against Israel has just made

my generation go, okay, we're not going to send our kids there. But the power wasn't us sending our kids there and then brainwashing our kids. Like, you actually need the kids there to believe in the illusion. So as soon as you start Letting us know that there's actually no freedom and that these are actually little indoctrination centers that are being run by Israel and we're now speaking to our kids coming up about what Israel is, you are you are fighting to lose your to lose the control that you have. Same thing with speech, right? As

soon as they Larry Ellison and all them are out there like we need to buy Tik Tok, do you think that made Tik Tockers pro-Israel or anti-Israel? Like Does it actually work long term to say well we've got the power. Okay, it's power versus the people. Do you think power wins or are the people going to win it? >> It that's why I say we're going be to be on the trajectory where it's going to be becoming more brutal, >> more stupid until they completely lose control. I don't know how many years kind of but

we we're heading to that to that uh you know direction because Here's the difference between third world countries and the the western countries because I was told this when I was growing. I was like, "Oh my god, you're in the Middle East. You have all of these red lines. You have all of these red lines. You cannot cross the red lines. And I come to hear the United States like it's true. You don't have any red lines. But you have two blue lines. You cannot cross these two blue lines. That's your only lines. So you

Can talk about the president. You can make fun of the president, about the Democrats, about the government, about the judge. Nothing is off limit. But when you cross these two blue lines with a little bit of star in the middle, this is where we get you. And now you know who's has the power. So, I think the more and more people are waking up, the more brutal they were going to become, the more outspoken, more stupid, more blunt, in-your-face they're going to Become. And then at a certain point, people will either give up, disenfranchise, or

just people go underground, and you'll see a violent counterattack coming from the people. >> I actually think you're right. I think you're absolutely right because you thinking about that, if they came out and they were like, "Oh, we're going to run Trump for a third term." Or if they just came out and were like, "You know what? You guys have no power. We're We're going to install BB Netanyahu as president of United States. What would we actually do? >> Yeah. Nothing. >> Yeah. >> Nothing. You you because people took for granted, oh, the president's going

to be there for a couple of a couple of terms and he's going to leave. What happens if he doesn't? Oh, the president cannot put me in jail because of my opinion. Now it's happening. >> People are being deported, being put in jail. People are losing government contracts. You have 37, 38 states that have laws >> that you cannot boycott Israel, which is crazy. That's actually And that's a law. Yeah. >> So, they're already doing that. >> And and I asked a question in one of my videos. What will prevent them? >> Nothing. I don't

know if you're following what happens to the Anti-Israel voices in Europe. You know, we always hear about America sanctioning a country, right? There's sanctions on China, sanctions on Iran. You know what happens when you sanction a person? Mm-m. >> When you sanction a person, and they did that from a couple of the uh judges in the ICC, they sanctioned the judge. He's in in he's a he's he's Dutch. This guy cannot have access to his bank account. >> Cannot have anything like he cannot have money. He cannot buy a ticket. He cannot pay bill pay

his own bills. He's he's just like a ghost. >> This is what happens when one when America sanctions a person in a foreign country. What prevents America from sanctioning you and just like wiping out your your bank accounts or deport or denaturalize you and then send you home or put you in jail? What what what what would what would prevent? >> So, a couple things I would say uh I would push back and say first and foremost, we're a big country. America's not like a little European country, big country. Also, our general attitude is very

different. Like I'm I remark whenever I go to the UK at how polite even like their protesters are. Like when I was being protested, when I was speaking at some UK campuses, me and Charlie, they were like very polite. They were like holding signs and were Like, "We would really like you not to be here." And I was like, "Oh, okay. Thank you." That was it. America's a little ratchet in those ways. America is a nation that they actually trained up for generations to be always revolt. Like, I mean, we're we're constantly in revolt at

all times. And so I'm not sure that when people start when they start showing up to doors and we saw this recently down in Miami where the police officer showed up and was like did you Send this tweet? I don't know that you know the country that brought you BLM riots and is going to be like no that's fine. Like we're just going to be like knocking on people's doors being like here's the >> challenge this point. Yeah, of course. I'd love your challenge >> because the same country who, you know, had the BLM rise,

the same country who stood against Vietnam and the same country who stood against the Iraq war, This same country, again, we've seen a microsome of what they can do in colleges, which is the most vibrant, most active, most useful, most energetic uh places in the United States, university. And we have seen what happens to those young kids. They were vilified in the media. They were ridiculed. They were belittled. They had their careers. Some of them were even were shot. I have a friend of mine Palestinian. He and two of his friends They were shot and

now he's he's paralyzed from waist down. He's in all because he didn't even he wasn't even one of the protest. He was wearing a kay and he was speaking Arabic. >> So if if if if America with all its might can crack down on the most free spots in the United States, which is the universities. And we didn't Can you do you hear anything about the the university? Right. They it took them like 2 months And they killed it. >> Yeah. >> What would prevent them from going doortodoor? It's first it's going to be very

very small and then they're going to get bigger. >> Mhm. >> Because 3 years ago you wouldn't think that they will have paid mercenary militias in American streets. Mhm. >> 3 years ago, you wouldn't think that there were like university encapment Where like they would be destroyed and demolished and people will not have any chance in hell to even work in Silicon Valley because they're all blacklisted. So what I'm saying is we've been saying this for the past 8 years since Trump got office in 2016. It will never happen. Will never go that far. But

it's happening. >> I'm not saying that we it would never go this far. It has gone very far. I I'm Please I'm banned from Australia. I mean I I have seen what they're Australia. Their whole thing is to bankrupt you too. The law. >> They have the same danger as horses going into Australia. Oh my god. >> I know. It's crazy. [laughter] It's completely crazy. >> They know that they ban horses from their Olympics, you know. Yeah. They have to play the the horse. >> I'm there. It's incredible. I'm banned from an entire country over

standing up For Palestinians children uh innocent Palestinian life because we have to believe that Palestinians are animals or they'll ruin your life. I just think that it has worked in the in the opposite regard and I think even military men, right? So it it you're right, it relies on the military being willing to execute the orders. Well, I'm having conversation with these guys in the military and now they're waking up to what sits at the top of the military Because the corruption is always at the top. These men are amazing people that sign up. You

know, then we're starting to go backwards. We're looking at the fact that yeah, after LBJ, yeah, you put in some satanic people to run psychological operations. Those people of course will go door to door and kill people. Yeah, there's a lot of Americans and >> but there's also a lot of third world countries general that will not Participate and you know what the leader does? He will replace them and they will bring put people in their place who would do what he wants. >> There's a lot of Americans >> and there's a lot of other

Americans. [laughter] >> I don't know. I just maybe maybe I'm too optimistic, but I see them losing right now because they're reacting like an animal backed into a corner. I'm not saying it's not going to get Worse first. >> Okay. Here's the thing. You have 98% of Congress and the Senate. >> There that's that's just a bunch of >> Yeah. But but those bunch of they are the one who writing the laws. They are the one who write a law that says that they can take $28 billion or $30 billion from your tax money and

give it to a different country. So those people they're stealing. >> Yeah. They're stealing. But they are all Uh bought by those lobbies. So what I'm saying is if you buy enough people to control the government, you can buy enough people to turn the government to do something that the people here doesn't want because there's a huge separation now between the political and the media elite and the rest of the people. >> Thousands of people marching but up there >> the money is going somewhere else. And I'm just saying that it's not that far. >>

I'm optimistic. I know it sounds crazy. It probably doesn't sound crazy. I think I I just in the end God wins. I I I think they got they were clever. They've done a lot of stuff in the dark. They've kind of seeped Which god will >> but the awareness yeah [laughter] >> which god will win >> the god is is going to win and I I do think part of it was the awareness they needed they needed the spell like you Know BB believed yeah we've got power we got politicians we got this we've got

the you know we could take the guns we can move all this we can traffic children nobody blinks an eye we got Epstein out all of this stuff but it did rely on the trick of the illusion and I I think they they underestimated how much relied on the illusion and that's why they're panicking about Gen Z because that's the future And there's a lot of people. And would they if they Could mass kill everybody in this country? Yeah, they would. I I believe these people are psychopaths. Like I said, watching their reaction to the

Palestinians and what they've done to people for saying the right thing like Miss Rachel shows you that there's no life in these people. This is the synagogue of Satan. The people that stand up and say that's fine are they're satanic. That's I genuinely wonder what happened to them when they were kids. And >> maybe maybe we don't need a revolution. Maybe we need an exorcist. >> We we do actually. [laughter] We do need we do need an exorcism. I do I do believe that. I also think that it's it's sex. uh based trauma. I think

a lot of these people just on my research into Sigman Freud, a lot of these people um when I see what the way they react, they knew that they could create psychopaths by abusing kids in their youth. And I do Think that a lot of these people behave like they are mind control slaves. Like there's they're they're trauma-based mind control. And because it w and I I made covers for my book club, but they they showed that harming a child and what the child will do to try to rationalize why this happened to them can

and I'm not saying this happens to every person then sets them on a path to become a psychopath when they don't understand why someone in their family Would do something like that to them. And I look at some of these people I have no other excuse. I have no other excuse. But your humanity just has should come online at some point and you say this is wrong and they don't. Some are being guided by money, some by blackmail. But the true psychopaths that you look at where they will just lie to your face all the

time and I'm like something happened to you when you were a child and I'm sorry and and part of That was you truly believing. >> What did you think happened to Ben Shapiro when he was a child? >> You know combination of things with him. Uh I would love to know. I would sit down and ask him these questions. It's just not normal. Um he because he fixates. That's what makes me nervous about him is there's an obsession. He fixates. He can't let it go. He can't I mean he's he's been so fixated on Tucker

Carson. Even when I was at Daily Wire, It's like his his it's you would think and Tucker never ever spoke about him, never while I was there. It's it's a fixation. It's there is a neuroticism there. Um and I don't I don't know what happened to him, but I know he's got like a very too close relationship with his dad. Like his dad follows him to every job. >> Not No, I actually think it's it's his dad's always with him working with him at all times at every job. Follows him, Tells him he's amazing. Like

So it's different. I'm so sorry, Ben. I'm so sorry I hurt your feeling. I didn't know that you went through that. >> But his dad's apparently very angry. And so there's there's a lot >> but and then I but I do think they're they're brainwashed, too. Like they they actually don't realize that they will like hell is real. It's real. Like you will go to hell. >> The the what I said on Beers Morgan About is dealing with is narcissistic psychopath. Narcissistic psychopath >> are genuinely sick people. The world revolves around them. They cannot do

no wrong. they would gaslight you into telling you what's not in front of you. Um, they will just they will not they're not going to engage in conversation. They will only engage in conversation to wear you down and and and piss you off. >> Uh, one of the interviews that I went on by Pers Morgan, they brought someone Called Joseph Cornis who was like the ex IDF spokesman and out of nowhere it's like there is no famine in Gaza. There is so many videos of fat Palestinians, fat and he emphasized on the fat. He knows

that by him saying this is like how could you say that he they want to trick you >> into getting under your skin. So now the conversation is not about what's happening in Gaza. It's about like now like what I've just said >> and then they would they they masters in doing that trolling them. See all of their conversation all of their debates their point their the whole thing is to them making you lose control and lose lose your temper. So they will divert the conversation going somewhere else. You'll see that it's it's it's it's

they're very good at doing this. >> Yeah. No, you're you're absolutely right. And I >> they don't care about the truth. They Care about confusion. >> They they always ask the question if you have like a campus where you have 10% of pro Palestinian and 10% pro-Israeli. What do you do to the other 80%. And the wrong answer is I'm going to try to convince the 80% with my cause. It's like no, their answer is you try to confuse the other 80. >> Yeah. just give any whatever like mantras, whatever like sound bites just like

to Throw at the situation to to do they divert the conversation. This is what they do. >> Yeah, I I agree with you. It's like it's like master manipulation and I I came out of it. So I realize now >> I'm welcome back. This is kind of like rehab. >> Yeah. Well, I wasn't, you know, [laughter] it's funny. I was never like a you I was not out there speaking about the topic of Israel, but I did believe That where I was working were real media companies that were dedicated to free markets and capitalism and

that these were my allies in that sense and fighting defending free speech. And so it is there is something that's scary when you go, "Oh my gosh, how could I not have realized that I was actually no, I'm just kind of being used so that they can pretend they're this thing, but actually the only thing that matters is this one thing, which is like Israel and Serving Israel." So it's been a lot to process that, but I don't I'm grateful I was blinded to it because it gave me almost a superpower to come up through

it. I know I now know how the tricks work. I know who these people are. I know who they're connected to. I know who they're communicating with. I know what publications they're speaking to. I can see the hand of, oh, this, you know, Marissa at Prageru, who I adored when I worked for her. I'm like, oh, this is This is a Marissa thing. And so, I think God wanted me blinded for that time. And I, so I could, so now when I'm telling the story about Charlie, even I'm I it has so much more weight.

I'm telling the public, no, this is what was going on. This is who put this person in this organization. This is who he was arguing with. So, it kind of in many ways had I had to go through all of it. Otherwise, I'm just like throwing opinions at the wall. And it represents an existential Threat to these organizations to go, okay, no, but she came from the inside. She's she's not just >> Exactly. That's why you and Charlie and all of the people who starting to flip their this is you are more dangerous like someone

like me because he's an Arab. He's he's a Muslim. He already He already passed 911. >> Of course I did. >> It was your passport that Yes. Yes. I Had to get a new one. I had to get a new one. Damn. You know, you know the whole thing about the passport. There was like a a bombing attack in Paris 2015. And you can Google this, by the way. You just Google Syrian passport statuance because also there was like a huge like I don't know like 50 people were killed by machine guns and they conveniently

found passports for Syrian people >> in Paris. What kind of what kind of or Very organized meticulous like oh here it is a Syrian passport found near a suicide bomber at near a suicide bomber at November 2015 >> and he's just like boom. >> Yeah. You know >> oh never mind we don't have to it was done by the Palestinians. Oh Tyler Robinson. >> Yes. He just left this big what kind of very organized got together like you know terrorist who just like goes to all Of these operations >> the best late plans you know

>> this is this is my last operation because I'm going to die after that so I better get my passport so I don't lose my way to the 72 versions and heaven it just it it becomes so comical I I I don't know >> what's interesting actually is this background which we haven't gone to on podcast but looking into the Charlie Kirk thing and and these Egyptian planes That were tracking him and turning USA faith events uh was that the fake names the the real names on these passports it's interesting how many are Palestinian >>

which is like I'm I'm convinced these were Israeli planes this is why they're panicking about it obviously like we all know Egypt the whole thing they're running stuff through Egypt obviously um but there I was like oh this is interesting this person died in Palestine and this exact full name is one of the passports I got the list of every Egyptian name that's on this >> they always hide behind other >> Palestinians I'm Did you know this, by the way, a bunch of Palestinians were uh apparently in Provo the day that >> Oh, yeah. I

mean, this is this is where Palestinians have >> get excited. You guys should help me. The Zionist lobby helped me. Did I? They're Palestinians. They did it. I >> I'm actually very I'm actually happy that in like my life led me to actually live the American dream. I'm actually very h I'm a proud American, by the way. I I got my passport six years ago and I and I' I'm happy that I've established my American dream to finally come here, live in America, work my ass off, pay my taxes to sponsor Israel. That is my

dream because this is how and it's funny because in the third world country we used to that kind of control that Happens after an invasion. >> We didn't even have to be invaded. It's more administrative administrative like you don't need tanks or or planes. All you need is a couple of fundraiser dinners. >> You have to shoot JFK. [laughter] >> No fundraiser dinners. >> Shoot JFK. And then one person did it and then get all your boys into the military. And that's how America was taken over obviously. And then just get A bunch of homosexual

men to go to DC. Um you know, catch them on the apps. Lindsey Graham. And then I mean whatever they've got on Lindsey Graham, he's he's like terrifyingly supportive of Israel. No, no matter what they want, we got to bomb Iran RIGHT NOW. IT'S LIKE his file terrifies that file and BB just sits there like and he just freaks out was like I love you so much blah blah blah and I'm like whatever they have on Lindsey Graham >> it's scary by the way how about we never got the answer to which congressman was sleeping

with that young male intern or someone was working in the office on the congressional floor. Do you remember this? They wiped this away. That's how Israeli blackmail files are created. They got that story. We have no idea. This happened in a in a congressional building on the congressional floor and we have no answers as to what that was actually about. Who was the congressman On the other side of that? >> And and it it's funny like how when everybody's talking about Ebstein I mean like you cannot say like oh nobody is talking about Ebstein. Everybody

talks about Epstein comedy shows whatever but they never talk about the very obvious connection with a foreign intelligence. It you see like open ABC Epstein NBC Epstein scene and Epstein comedy center Epstein but they never talk about the Israeli connection. >> Well, what do you mean? He's it's he was Hamas. >> Oh yeah. >> That's when they start talking about it as soon as we soon as we work through Oh, it turned out actually that he was he was working for Hamas. >> Oh yeah. Oh, like he was indicted 2008 and he was allowed to

go to Israel during his >> Yes. That's what that's what's coming next. >> He just like happens to go to Israel and then he will come back. >> That's why they put Barry West CBS. That's what's coming. They're working on that narrative. They just have to figure it out. And it's like it is the most despicable thing. That was for me done with Trump. As soon as he said, "What?" Epstein files. Easiest way to lose me as talk about the children. If we can't defend the children, what kind of a nation are we? If we

as a a a country Turn away when we know children are being abused. And then I started to realize, oh, that's the name of the game. Like that's what the CIA is doing. They are trafficking human beings. This is what they are involved in. And we're all kind of waking up to that spell. And then they have us arguing with each other left versus right. And that's why I'm like, are you team God or are you team Satan? And it's actually kind of shocking how many people are team Satan. I will say that >> away

from God and Satan, I'm I'm someone I'm a I'm a prime example who someone who when I when I got the day I got the American, I remember the day that I had my pledge of allegiance 2019, December 2019. I remember that that day I was so happy. Not just because of becoming American citizens. First thing that they give you as a new American citizen, they give you the form to write Down your your your information for the passport. And the second form they give you is your voting registration. >> Mhm. >> And you and

it's like this is the first this is my first thing as an American because I was there on a green card legally for five years and I could only vote local in local in local elections but not in the general elections and I was so proud like oh now I can vote. It took me four years to completely be Disenfranchised from the voting operations. Like there's no point. >> There's no point because this is what the right and left do. >> They would kill each other, slit each other's throat over everything. Uh immigration, healthcare, open

borders, closed borders, the wall, uh militarization, everything. But everybody will compete to be Israel's favorite [ __ ] >> Mhm. So now there's there's no point. If You are like a 50/50 of everything and you're only 100% on this one thing, there's something fundamentally wrong with this business. >> I agree. >> There's something fundamentally wrong with this. >> My I guess you could say my my red line was the Charlie Kirk assassination. I'm like if if Charlie Kirk get killed in broad daylight and our states are colluding to cover it, there's only one State that

would have that kind of power to make them collude to cover it. Okay? There's only one state in the world. Okay? Who's involved? All you have to know is Israel is involved because it's a cover up. That's it. There there's only one nation that would be involved. You got BB [clears throat] calling him. Everyone's lying about it. They're pretending. I mean, BB going on a press tour immediately after to say, "I did not kill. >> I didn't kill Whoa, buddy. Um, we haven't even and Trump drops the tweet with him hugging the Israeli flag." They

were so obvious. It was like even No one had a thought that you did anything until you started saying you didn't do it. >> He loved us. We didn't kill him. >> And I just I just want to talk to the the people watching us, especially like America first people. It's forget Israel. Forget everything. I'm just sick And tired that like my hardearned money >> is going to sponsor the lifestyles of Israel who have free education, free housing, free healthcare. >> And Ukraine, by the way, that because that's where they're actually from. They're from Ukraine.

>> Exactly. But but like I I I'm working for the benefits of someone else >> in a different country. And this is what and now we have the homelessness. We have the problem with healthcare. And I Say America is not poor. >> The problem with America that it lacks selfrespect. We are being like pushed around like this is some sort of BDSM economics where [laughter] where we're where basically we are be we're sponsoring them but for somehow we are their [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> This is like dominatrix kind of level of like you

know like slap my ass and take My money kind of thing. >> Yeah. Trump pulling out the chair for BB is like symbolic of everything. It's just what h like I'm I don't know about evangelical Christians who are used to that kind of humiliation saying that like you're not even going to be good enough as those people but come on have some selfrespect. >> Yeah. >> It just pains me. >> Yeah. That and I say that about >> I immigrated for this. >> Yeah. [laughter] Well, that's that's look at even the drop in testosterone over

the years that's intentional. The mass poisoning of men, the water. Oh, that's a fact. >> Do you think we're now Americans are flaccid because of Israel? >> Genuinely. genuinely [laughter] we are facing this the testosterone crisis as I call it. I mean the because of the stuff they're putting in our water, the stuff They're putting in our food and over time what that's done is we do have too many theatrical boys that really want to go to DC because they want to be on stage. They want to go into media because they want to be

on stage. And this is the this is my and I know that you disagree with this because you're a little bit you're more on the left. I think that none of that stuff means anything. Yes. But this is my ultimate contention with the pushing of the LGBTQ Narrative is I see the more nefarious thing. They do not want the kind of people that are going to stand up. They want everybody obsessed with objects and buying stuff and the men doing their makeup. >> It's about identity politics. It's not whether it's the LGBTQ whether it's just

like >> attack on manhood is significant. >> They want to attack they want people just like being have all of these fights Between >> but the mass masculinity is what they hate the most. True masculinity is what they No, true [laughter] masculinity is what they hate the most. The kind of guy that's going to stay up and defend for his family. That That's what I'm speaking about when I say we cannot have this. They are telling men it is wrong to be men. That's they It's like they hate masculinity. Full stop. You can be anything

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switch to pure talk. Okay. Uh, we have comments. Charlie's Angel, Charlie's Angels writes, "Yay for Candace hosting him when he was on the Nelk podcast. I don't think that they got the message that he was telling them that they were literally just used in the pattern and strategy that is employed on a much larger scale." Yes, They were. And I I like the boys. They're great. But it was very obvious that that was one of the podcasts BB could get on. By the way, Charlie Kirk said, "No." I I told I told them like you

were recruited in 2022 and you were and you were uh activated in 2023. This is this is what they do. They they were like I noticed there was like a Yeah. There was like a whole kind of recruitment that two three years before 2023 as if they know it was happening And they they just like used all of these weapons once October 7th happened. [clears throat] >> Mhm. And they they pursue talent. Like I said, you're coming up. I started my channel on YouTube by myself. And if they think, "Oh, this person's got potential." They

bring you in. They pretend that you're your f they're your friends. We're going to help you. Let me help you on your path. And then you divert from one thing they want. And Suddenly you realize this is a gang. This is a literal gang. >> This is how this is how I know I'm not talented enough because no one contacted me. >> No one contacted you. Damn. >> I'm so sorry. I I think it was the passport. >> I guess you are the anti-semit of the year. >> This person writes something important too. Walter Midi

Hunter says, "Look at The suicide rate of the IDF soldiers who t who top themselves after fighting in Gaza even though they are guilty of a new holocaust. There is very high suicide rate." That is correct. Uh because they probably figured out >> that it's you're a human. And when you are murdering children, [clears throat] >> you kind of have to live the rest of your life knowing and hearing those screams and understanding what you were told to do. You were brainwashed. You Did it. But then you have the consequence. >> Yes. and or you

join uh breaking the silence which is like the group of the IDF soldiers who they have a movement called breaking the silence ex IDF soldiers who speaks about the atrocities that they did and then now they come up and and and saying like what what's happened be behind the the scenes of of their operations in Gaza and West Bank and it's been going on for years. >> Wow. Wow. I would like to see that actually. >> Yeah. Breaking the silence. You can Yeah, you should look it up. Uh Amma Musa writes, "Ward Boston was a

Navy judge advocate general who investigated Liberty, USS Liberty. Before he died, he published a notorized statement in San Diego Union Tribune that the investigation was a cover up and the attack was deliberate. I mean, it's the most obvious deliberate attack." And It's interesting because the New York Times contacted me. They're doing some big piece on it because they are realizing that this issue is is now it matters suddenly and they were kind of trying to get to the bottom of it and found my video with Phil Turnney cuz that got like 7 million views and

were going what made you want to do this and why this now seems to be a litmus test for the right and I'm like good I'm glad it's a litmus test for the right cuz It's absurd. We didn't know that this happened. And because Gen Z and all of us millennials are waking up going, if the government was willfully mass murdering their own military men and then covering it up, we still live in that system, then these these people are still in power. Until you can admit that the Liberty was deliberate. The psychopaths are still

in power. It's interesting that you're getting that from the New York Times who known has it Its editorial team are full of people from XIDF and and and ex Musad and is >> I think the angle is anti-semitism I will say. >> Yeah. Is isn't like the the New York Times who had proudly published a piece like where they were saying there is about there is more tunnels inside the underneath Gaza more than the length of the New York time the New York subway system. >> Mhm. >> Which I didn't know that Hamas were great

builders. they should come and build their our own infrastructure. This is the New York Times. This is the level of proficiency. They they had like screams without voices or whatever. This they they had like a whole piece about the rape the rape hoax which was completely fabricated. There were Israelis that were mentioned in the article said like that didn't happen. This is not what they told us. It's just >> Yeah, they did lie about the rape which is crazy. Norm Finkelestelestein sat across and he explained everything thoroughly about how they lied about the rape and

how he actually looked into it. And that's that is it's amazing because he's such an academic. That's why nobody wants to debate him because he's like, "Let me take the time and research this." And to hear him speak about that. But think about what kind of a person would make that up for propaganda to say That babies were put in ovens and then to have us realize that that was all made up. It was all propaganda. And again, the reason why it's never a good idea is because a slippery slope inevitably is okay. Well, if

you were lying about what happened on October 7th, >> what else are you lying about? >> Exactly. And that's that that was me. >> But okay, they are lying. What about the responsibility of American journalists And American media? >> Well, they built the built. >> They don't even they don't even I mean all of the information that we got about the animal directive, about Israeli soldiers killing their own people, about the standown operation, we got this from Israeli media. >> Correct. Yeah. All of this in Israeli media, but not a single word about that in

New York Times, about CNN, nothing >> because they built those. >> Yeah. But you will have Jake Tapper talking every single day about the fake rape stories, but he will never say anything about what is being reported in the Israeli media themselves. >> It is true. >> It is absolutely true. >> Uh Katya writes, "Candice, please tell Bas that I loved him in the TV show Lioness as Rohi Amroi. He is very handsome. I think she's hitting on you. >> Oh, please. I am I'm I'm Yeah, thank you So much. I appreciate that. >> Yeah,

there you go. >> Project Constitution writes, "I agree with Phil Turney of the US Liberty. I interviewed him on my channel, too. His story is so powerful." When you look him in the eyes, you just there's something that just comes on spiritually. Like, this man, he is he has held on to that day for decades, and all he wants is for the men that died. I mean, this I can't even think about. It honestly makes me Choke up just what he lived through. He was 20. 20. Just a horror that you couldn't even imagine. And

then the moment where he tells about the IDF soldier and just describing where they saw the IDF people coming in and they were like, "Oh, great. Our friends are here." And then all of a sudden his captain yells, "Prepare. We're about to be torpedoed." And I that moment of consciousness when you realize that your friends are the ones that set you up. You can't even describe. You can't even think through that emotion where you're going. He's like, "We had a little uh we had Star of David's IDF uh sorry, IDF Star of David Israeli flags

inside the ship because we were going out there to go protect them." We see these black helicopters. We're getting attacked. We don't know who it is. We think it's Egyptians, of course. >> Um because that's one of their preferred angles, Egypt, blaming Egypt, >> hence the Egyptian planes on Charlie's assassination day. >> Yeah, we get blamed for everything and they and they get all of the credit for building the pyramids. What the hell? So like we're getting attacked by by Arab nations and then suddenly you see these little IDF boats coming up and you're going

yes okay finally support and he's like he's and then he suddenly hears prepare to be torpedoed and that IDF soldier then gives him the middle finger Made eye contact and to this day people are gaslighting him they didn't know >> oh they didn't know and then me about the this one of the big talking points about Israel being our alley it's like because I asked them like why are there our allies where are their allies why why are we spending so oh we spend that much money for intelligence. >> Yeah. So they can blackmail us.

>> So but but for intelligence but okay so the the the point of view is Israel is a Great uh ally because they will tell us so much info to protect our leaders our our troops in 1982 the very famous bombing of the American embassy the American Marine Corps. 250 was it 250 Americans killed or 50? I can't remember. It's a it's one of the biggest casualties for American troops 1982 in Lebanon and there is a book by a Musad agent called Victor >> Ostrovk >> it's called by way of deception >> that in that

book he said that the Israelis the Musad knew quite well about the bombing when it's going to happen the blue MercedesBenz van that was going to be using the attack and they withheld the information from the American troops and they said like well let them deal with it. >> Mhm. Yeah, of course. I mean, it's it's a nonsense. >> And and that book uh by way of deception was the only book in the history of American literature that there was a gag order for 24 hours. They they they they managed to stop that book for

24 hours. It was the first and last ever gag order on an American book. >> Wow. >> In the United States. And that's 1992. >> Also, actually, there was Hollywood Babylon, too. And there's a reason for that. They then changed it. That's why they're obsessed with publishing rights because if they own your book, when you Die, they can change what's in your book. It's unbelievable. But Victor Achovsky also uh was on camera speaking about how Jeffrey Epste worked for them. >> And they're like, there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epste was except the MSAD agent who

literally came out and said that he was working for the MSAD and the other MSAD agent as well who came out and said he was working for the MSD. But there's no evidence. I love when they just say there's no evidence. That's one Of my favorite lies. >> There's no evidence. Just because you keep saying there's no evidence does not make it so. But they believe if they just keep saying the same thing over and over again, it will eventually become the truth. >> They shout lies into becoming truth. >> There's no evidence. There's no

evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. It didn't happen. No evidence. It didn't Happen. It did not happen. It did not happen. Zero evidence. >> That's a lie. >> It's crazy. >> You're just making this up. You just hate us. >> There's an overwhelming amount of evidence actually. And but they their idea of evidence is when they are ready to admit it. That's the >> for them. evidence is just suggestions >> like the same way we Egyptians treat Traffic lights. [laughter] >> Just suggestions. >> Okay. Nadisa writes, "Thank you for hosting this

live stream and talking about the subject, God's justice and power. Um, always win." Fleiano writes, "Thank you both for your courage. God bless you." Sesame writes, "Hi, I'm from >> I'm ready to accept Jesus Christ right now. [laughter] >> I'm I'm I'm feeling all of these crosses and all of these things. I feel like I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm ready to get Jesus in. >> It's working. It's working. Uh not my place writes. When are you h when are you having the very public famous and influential Palestinian DJ Khaled on? So he has the platform

and opportunity to speak on behalf of the people of the nation that he came from. I have a whole thing about the DJs. >> I don't think DJ Khaled is the right person to talk about Palestinians. He didn't he didn't even talk. >> What kind of Palestinian is he? Eh. >> Yeah. He he's he's he's a kind of Palestinians who care about his Nike shoes more than his own. >> You should look into more DJs. I covered this. A lot of them are, you know, agents from the Matrix. Uh Avaric writes, "This is how you

know that BASM is new here. College is not the freest place in the US. Come to the hood." Yeah. You know what? In the hood, that's what I keep saying. It's not going to go Down like that. They're going to go in the hood and be like, "Okay, this is the last thing that we got to do is we just have to like, you know, take their phones home. They can't talk about Israel." That's what I'm watching. I'm I'm live streaming that because I'm like don't think it's gonna go that way. I make the joke

with Theo Von because he comes over here for dinner. I'm like at the end of the day it's not even a joke. I'm like America's gonna be saved by Black people. And Milo said he's like it is the ungovernability of black people that you can bank on. I'm like we are going to save this nation because as you can see we have this for some reason there's just something within us that we're just like no actually when when they bring out the droids and they're going to take out the robots and they're going to be

like okay we're going to control everything that you do and monitor you. who was the number one Group that was not getting that vaccine. You're welcome. You are so welcome that you can always bank on the ungovernability of black people because at the end of the day, we're like wired toward freedom and we'll be like, "Okay, you you're doing too much government. We're not getting that vaccine." They were like, "We'll buy you Nikes. We'll buy you ice cream. We'll get you tickets to see DJ DJ this or whatever." And black America was like, >> "Not

doing that." >> Well, you know, Egyptians were practically Africans. >> Okay. Yeah. Exactly. >> So we will be with you. >> That's what I'm saying. >> To take us with you. >> Yeah. It's you can bank on that. And there that's I think what ultimately drove a Daily Wire crazy was like when they were like, "Oh, just do this thing." And I was like, "That's immoral. I'm not doing that. Absolutely not going to be governed." Well, we have a contract. I'm not going to be governed to say that it's acceptable to mass murder children. Like,

I don't care about money. I don't care about contracts. It's right versus wrong at a at a certain point. >> Before the show, you told me about your last episode in the Daily Wire. >> Yes. It was what I think it was my very last. It was my very last. It was or of The second to last Rabbi Barlay. >> It was really retrospect. >> That's what broke them. But this is what they told you like you need to go. But he you didn't bring someone from pro Palestinian. You brought like an like an Israeli

or like a pro-Israeli Jewish rabbi who was just like telling you all of these. You just let him speak. You didn't interject. >> So polite >> and that was enough for them to kick you Out. >> Rabbi Barlay is still one of my favorite interviews. I think it exists somewhere on Rumble. He was just so brilliantly a Jew supremacist. Like he he didn't even realize it. Like they don't even know what they're saying. They're so confident in what they're saying. And they're like, "Let me explain to you why it's actually perfectly fine for Jews to

murder people and why it's always wrong if somebody else says anything and Insults a Jewish person. Why the words of Kanye West hurt much more than the bombs of BB Netanyahu." And I was just sitting there following him being like, "Okay, can I get a definition of anti-mitism?" And he was like, "Whatever we want." [laughter] Oh my god. >> No, he literally said it's a hate that mutates. There can be no definition. It's like whatever we say tomorrow. And I was like, am I tracking this correctly and I just let him speak and it was

a Disaster. But it that's >> vote in the comments if you want to see Candace do an episode about like the behind the scenes of that episode because I would love to see that. >> It was fantastic. I I I still always say he is always welcome back. I genuinely enjoyed it. I was on a roller coaster of a like just trying to follow. >> You think you can get him on >> and then I realized, oh, I figured it out. This is supremacy. >> Wait, wait, wait. You could probably get >> You think can

can you can invite Can you think he will come if you invited him on this show? >> I think he would. And you know what he did afterwards? He was like, I can help you. And he told me that I could have a private screening of October 7th. He was going to they were going to bring the laptop to me to see what the Palestinian what what Hamas did and then I would understand why racism is fine as long as It's >> Isn't it interesting that we never saw that screening? We never saw this. >>

I was like why can't you release to the public? >> Two and a half years ago and so like we haven't we there's stuff that we cannot show. >> We could not show you why you show everything. >> We show everything. Okay. There's something about showing everything. You Know how people were talking about how ADS soldiers like film their their like them themselves like wearing women's laundry and playing with the toys of the kids that they just killed. In any military in the world, there's discipline. They will not allow this to be aired unless they

give them the direct permission to just like show and film their atrocities as it's happening. Mhm. >> And I asked a professor about this like Why is they're doing this? It's like they do that because they need the hate. >> They do that because more and more people will hate Israel, will hate IDF and some of people will not make the the distinction and they will just like hate on the Jews. It's like see >> anti-semitism. We are justified to keep doing what we want. Which is crazy. >> Yeah. No, I think you're actually >>

I think you I think you should do the episode and even a bonus bring that Rabbi back. >> I love that rabbi. I do deep down because he really I was like, "Oh, you just want me to just say like it's okay for you to be racist and that you're more important than me >> because like you're Jewish and so you're extra special." And I was like, "Did you pay attention to anything I've done in my entire career?" Like I was willing to stand up to my own people on BLM stuff when it was getting

ridiculous. They're Coming in on speech and everybody's a race. I don't I don't subscribe to this at all. Whether it's a black person, a white person, or a Jewish person, but I finally hit the ultimate supremacy. It's Jewish supremacy. And if you do not bend the knee, >> there's another rabbi called Ysef MRI and he talks in his videos very openly. He he gives lectures in Los Angeles in New York and just first of all he doesn't call him Jesus Christ. He he Call him JC Penney. He he makes fun of like oh JC Penney

and he's like those stupid Christians they think that they if they support Israel it will bring back the Messiah but it's not going to be their Messiah. It's going to be our Messiah. And he just like talks openly about how stupid Christians is, how stupid JC Penney is, how stupid all of this is, and they're just like doing it for us. And it is good to just use them for our behalf. >> No, you are. >> And by the way, I'm I'm not This is just like out there in the open, these rabbis just talk

openly about how stupid Christians and Muslims are and how they use them to fight with each other. >> Yeah. No, and I do believe that. I think they believe that Christians are stupid. And I think for too long we have been not stupid but we have been ignorant. We've certainly been ignorant. And that's because >> Well, if you have your own pastor standing al Yeah, exactly. We've also been under one of the most intense psychological experiments I think ever. America has been a psychological experiment. Um, and if we can control the media, if we can

control the education system, you know, get them into school, if we can control Hollywood, yeah, it's pretty hard to wake up from that spell. But we're doing it. I I don't know. I'm an optimist. I I Feel like because they're be growing they're just becoming increasingly more unhinged. It's because they're losing control, right? When they were cool as a cucumber and they didn't care and they weren't being all extra and firing people, they were they had power. They're they're it's glitching. It It's glitching and we're happy. That's the other thing. They are miserable. Every time

you see them, they're angry. They're ranting. They're screaming. They're saying at their victims. I mean, they're so vitriolic. They're like pulling up. Did you see what they did to Tucker's brother? They Laura Loomer, by the way, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of influencers. >> If you descend that low, Laura Loomer. >> Yeah, they're desperate. They That means they don't have They used to be able to get Charlie Kirk. Now Charlie Kirk, >> I still I still disagree that they are Desperate because if they are desperate, they're they're buying everything. I mean,

they are desperate, but with a lot of money. If you have Larry Ellison like taking away your TikTok, taking away your scene and an HBO and just like giving you all they're just they're angry and they have all of that money. >> That's what makes them angry is they have all the money. They're buying it and they're they're still have no influence. The numbers are not ticking Upward towards Israel. That's what makes them angry. It's like, whoa, I'm a bajillionaire and I bought Tik Tok. Why why aren't the Tik Tockers saying they love Israel? That's

what drive drives them mad. >> You think it matters? >> I think it does. But but if you have that much money to make the biggest country in the world just like direct its weapon to whoever country they want. Maybe they they they they tell you that They they they're sad that they're not on their side, but maybe they don't care. >> I Oh, they they care. They care. I think it's pretty obvious. And and get optimistic. I'm telling you. I I I think we're going to win. >> But I'm a comedian. I need to

be pessimistic. That's actually that's good for my comedy. >> Yeah, it is good. >> I I can't I can't give you hope with my Comedy. I need to give you despair and laugh about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, we do [laughter] need we do need the comedians though. I'm telling you, like Tim Dylan is I I'm ripping his content all the time. One day he's going to send me a legal letter. >> Are you still team Trump? >> I No. >> No. >> Epstein. No. Like so. Like that was it. That was like goodbye. Like

no. I mean there is I do not go halfway with defending pedophiles. Goodbye. Goodbye. >> So how would you define yourself? Because now I'm I'm completely disenfranchised. I cannot say myself. I'm disenfranchised. And and I love how they abuse me. Talk about going back to your narcissistic abuse. They literally are like, "F you. You can't get a country. You can't get back onto a stage. We're going to make sure you can Never speak anywhere." And then they're like, "Why isn't she telling people to vote for that?" Oh, oh, oh, she's got THE NUMBER ONE PODCAST.

Why aren't you telling people to vote? Are you out of your mind? I hate all of you. I think you guys are all a part of the same demonic entity. Your you your god is Satan. Uh you guys are ball worshippers. You will continue to kill and sacrifice children um until that until you feel uh that that demon rewards you. And I stand Against you. >> You're intense. >> Yeah. This is how I feel about these people. They are satanic right and left at the top. And that's why I want them to know is it's

I know because of how committed these people are to Satan because they literally hired Satanists to run psychological operations in the military as we covered uh Michael Aino and um >> Avow like literally Temple of Set was at Fort Wuka like they an avowed started his own Temple of Set everything and that was the reason they hired him. and they're like these are the qualifications we're looking for. You got to listen to my podcast. It's very interesting. >> I am listening to your podcast. I'm not I'm not saying like I'm not talking because this is

like an allegory. I'm saying literal satis. >> Oh, I remember that guy with his Eyebrow. I remember the eyebrow. Oh, that's Aino. That guy has another picture with more started his own church of Satan after he had a disagreement about with he was in the church of Satan and then he had a disagreement with the guy who started the church of Satan because the guy was like, "Well, we're saying like Satan has an idea." And he was like, "No, I mean like real Satan." like this Satan is not an idea. So this was their great

schism, the satanic Schism. >> And so then he >> So he's actually in the church of Satan. He's just like a member of that. >> Yeah. And then he started his own because they they had this schism where he was like, "No, Satan is a real being." And I believe in him as a real being, not an idea. So then he started the temple of Set, which is Satan is a real being. >> That's like Satanism on steroids. >> Yes. >> Wow. >> And they then the military was like, "I like what you're doing there.

I like the idea of harming children. Let's bring you in to run psychological operations. Yeah. >> Okay. >> This is not a joke. This is like this is real life. When I what I'm saying I'm not saying this to be cute about like oh they're satanic. I mean literally we are Fighting people that worship Satan. Like that is what I truly believe. These are like ball worshippers and they sacrifice children. And um >> he is into liberal arts. [laughter] >> Yeah. Spells even the history of the of the Apollo program. Jack Parsons. What was he?

He was he was a committed a vowed Satanist or throwing sexual rituals. He was trying to summon demons. And that's the problem that what do they Say? Like the the greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing the world that he didn't exist. And I'm saying to the world he exists and we're fighting these people um who are doing everything in their power to make sure that he continues to have dominion. But we're waking up. We're recognizing that. And I'm optimistic because inevitably I'm I'm Christian. Uh Christ is king. Truth is king. Truth is winning. And

years ago, this would have never happened. You And me, this combination wouldn't have happened. >> Where do I fall into this spectrum as a Muslim guy coming from? >> You did 911. [laughter] >> This is like you're a Muslim. You did 911. >> By the way, I have I have a funny story about this. I was actually in Miami uh weeks before 9/11. I'm I'm not making this up. I'm not making this up. This Okay. All right. So, you want to know my My background before being a comedian, before being a a satist, you know,

I was actually a doctor. I was a heart surgeon. No way. >> Yeah, I was a heart surgeon for 20 years before all of this. So the the day the the year that I finished my medical school, I had like a year off before I start like my >> uh I have like a time off before I start my residency and I and I and I saved enough money and I two summer 2001 I Went to Miami. Why? because I wanted to go there to teach salsa to learn salsa and I I became a salsa

dancer and I came home and I when I went back home I was a card cardiothoracic surgeon and I opened the first ever salsa school salsa dancing school in Cairo. I was doing that in the I have I have a very very very interesting background. So, uh, 2001 in the summer, my return ticket from Miami was 17th of September, 6 days before after 9/11. And then my money ran out a week before 9/11. So, I just like changed my ticket and I came back. And as I was just still like, you know, jetlagged, my mom

wakes me up like, "Wake up." I LIKE, "WHAT'S LIKE LOOK AT THE TV." I SEE like like the the the the the first tower like going down. I was like, "Oh my god, I was supposed to be there." >> Oh my >> I was supposed to be there in Miami where they actually had the training and And thank God like I was broke before that happened, >> right? Well, thank goodness you were broke [laughter] before that happened because it was crazy. I mean, I just remember being like I was like afraid of every Muslim. I

was just like they did such a good job. The everyone was in front of the TV screens. They were just like, you know, it's the Muslims. Buzz was like, it was a whole simulation which lasted I I mean, I was literally >> instilled in me to have just be suspicious of Muslims. Like they were training us up as as these little sources, but really all they wanted to do was just like bomb things in the Middle East for Israel. Obviously, >> we're just following >> weapons of mass destruction, say okay to war. Yeah. In every

country that Netanyahu mentions, >> if if we if we believe them at that time, why do we believe them now? >> We don't. That's why they're spazzing out. >> There's a lot of people who do. >> We don't. That's the whole point. And that's why he's on camera and he's acting like he's in control. We got to buy TikTok. That's not BB in control. BB in control doesn't say anything. BB in control is not doing podcasts in America after Charlie Kirk dies. That's not objectively a smart decision if you if you're involved with murdering someone.

They just seem to be spiraling a little bit. And um and I do believe we're going to find out who killed Charlie Kirk. I do believe Israel was involved. And I I mean I will find out who killed Charlie Kirk. And >> well, please Morgan didn't like that when I said it. It's like, oh, you're just like spreading conspiracy theories. Like come on. I'm so tired of the conspira like just stop >> conspiracy theories now anything that Doesn't being get repeated >> has been reported by Barry Weiss CBS >> Barry Weiss she's such a great

journalist >> she can't even sit up straight she's my favorite because it's I like that now they're just so naked about it. You know what I mean? They're just like in your face blah blah blah. This is not a meritocracy. >> They're like in your face incompetence. >> Yeah. They're just like getting like Ben Shapiro, Barry Weiss, and >> like they could have picked some a smart Jewish Zionist and kind of like held on to the illusion that like, oh, maybe it's meritocracy, you know, he's a really bright guy. They're like Barry Weiss. It's she's

like the most unimpressive person. And they put her there. And so every day the hardworking employees who probably like, you know, graduated with top honors at schools have to walk watch her walk in and Pretend that she is deserves to be there and is a serious person. I love thinking about that. like she passes these cubicles every day to go to her big office and she has no shame. She's just completely shameless. She's just like, "Yeah, no, it's fine. I'm allowed to be here." >> And now she's in control of Param Plus which actually have

Lionus which I have like a great scene there. So I think I would going to be removed. >> Yeah. Anyway, >> they're going to remove me from there. They're going to meet her. >> She's so brilliant. >> Yeah, she's brilliant. >> By the way, I want to say this before we get off. Where can they go to support you? You're on tour. Yes, I am actually having the belly of the beast tour which is ofast belly of the beast which is basically talks about like my experience as a immigrant coming and finding here Coming my

finding myself that I'm a citizen of the empire it's a very new exciting feeling like being part of this which actually your story too you were in the belly of the beast in the daily wire I was and you came out >> I was out and I came in so we have like a that's kind of like a tag >> yeah we [laughter] know actually we just I'm actually like my first uh I will kick off the tour after Ramadan. Uh my birthday 21st of March. So 20th is going To be in Portland, 21st in

Seattle, and I'm going to be in Philadelphia, DC, Houston, Atlanta. >> Wait, the 20th are going to be where? >> 20th I'm going to be in Portland. 21st I'm going to be in Seattle. >> Okay. >> So that's my first two. >> But where can they buy tickets? >> Uh www.bassymusic.xyz not.com xxyz because x. [laughter] >> You guys go buy tickets. Go see him. I mean truly the watch in its entirety uh him on Piers Morgan. I I really think that's got it's got to be the most views Piers Morgan has ever got. That thing

went absolutely viral and for for very good reason. It was it awakened a lot of people, myself included. So anybody who's interested in suing me this year, you could also just sue him. I think that's easier. Probably >> come to my show. >> Everyone is like, "Oh, Candace is crazy. She needs to have her. Have you considered going after him? He's the reason that I did everything." No one's been going after him. It's it's a little bit ridiculous that I wanted him out of the year when it was the entire thing was his fault. I

brought him on here to say that I didn't do anything. I am a victim and if you if you want to sue someone, it should be Bassim. >> Yes. >> Thank you guys so much for joining us. >> Thank you guys. [laughter]