Do you think that there is an imminent human invasion that'll be sort of hoaxed in our lifetime? Oh, the false flag. Yeah, I sure hope not.
But yeah, you you do think that that's a possible. How high is your conviction on a percentage scale that that's going to happen within our lifetime? Oh god, I could I couldn't give you an exact number, but over 50.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm worried about it.
I think we're seeing signs of it. I feel like our government is pushing a fear threat narrative militarization and the media certainly is very fear-based. So they love a scary story, but I don't know.
This is not my area of expertise, but ETSs have basically said this. They've told people this. Uh so I'm worried about it.
You know, I've got I've got so many darn ET stories from people like a lady saw 15 foot praying mantis while out jogging. Oh my gosh. Oh my god.
or a lady I worked with saw this little alien statue on my desk. Screams like, "What's that? " I'm like, "Connie, what do you think it is?
It's an alien. " She's like, "Well, I I saw one of these when my son was a newborn. There's that weird connection to Yeah.
You know, pregnant and little. " She said this thing tried to get open her window. It's a fixed window.
It did not walk through the wall. It's looking at her little baby in a crib trying to open the window. It woke her up.
this kind of squeak squeak sound. She sits up in bed. It looks at her, slams her down in bed.
She can't move. She can't cry out. After 3 minutes, it walks off.
She jumps out of bed, scoos up her baby, and tells her husband something was at the window. That's a monster. We're getting out of here.
And he's like, "You just had a dream. " She's like, "That was no dream. That was not a dream.
" She went to her mother's. She wouldn't come back for two weeks. She said, "I'm not coming back unless we get guard dogs.
" And they did. And she's like, I'm we have to move. I'm not staying here.
I mean, that's how badly it affected her. She like I worked with this lady for quite a while and she must I don't you know preach like I'm a UFO researcher so I'm not really not at work, you know. Yeah.
But she saw that little statue that my boss had given me my Yeah. Just triggered and it was a statue of a mantis. Little gray.
Little old. Little gray. Yeah.
Oh. But yeah, the lady who saw Mantis was a teacher and she goes out jogging at 3:00 a. m.
and she's in Fallon, Illinois. This is right around the time the O'Hara in Chicago O'Hara incident happened. Uh, so you can date that.
What was it? 200 2006. Yeah.
And Oaken, Illinois. It's a pretty country town. And she comes up to the tea intersection, Kyle Avenue.
I'll never forget it. She described it. I looked it up on Google.
It was all correct what she was saying. and she sees what she thoughts a man on stilts walking down the middle of the street at this is at like 4:00 a. m.
Oh my god. The the horrific image of a man on stilts I think is more terrifying. On Z [laughter] and so it walks right into the street light.
I saw the street light and she said this thing came up more than half the street. So she knew how tall it was. Whoa.
And she's like it's got it's 15 feet if it's you know anything. They seem a mantis. Yeah.
It had those little things. It's big triangular head, eyes the size of basketballs. Oh, that's what Kevin C said.
They told him they speak any language on Earth easily. They know that our governments do have ET technology. They told them all kinds of stuff.
They're like way more advanced. Yeah. There was a tale of a another military guy who said that he heard he overheard um he was at Area 51 and he overheard someone in their conversation saying, "Yeah, keep the humans out.
The the mantids don't like them. " And so whatever that means. And he was like he came out and said like, "I don't know anything, but I heard that, you know.
" Well, you know, that doesn't surprise me. I don't like a lot of humans myself. I wouldn't like those humans either.
And I'm I love people, but some of the folks on Earth are so messed up. That doesn't make the mant evil. [laughter] It makes whoever they're working with.
I told you before I'm worried about how, you know, our I hate to blame, you know, use the term governments cuz Sure. but the way we're being treated is not okay. Yeah.
You know, our government should have our best interests in mind. And I don't see that sometimes. They do not.
Yeah. So, I'm concerned about it. I think the individuals who make up the government are 99% really good people or believe that they're good people or, you know, some But I think that they're very 1%, you know, poisons the well, you know, because when we use broad terms like the government, I know people who work for the clerical, you know, they're wonderful people in like, you know, doing paperwork and just, you know, doing whatever.
people work for the government. There's there's transport. Yeah, there's a whole like the government does do things that are just normal, too.
Um, but lumping them all in together, like there is, like you said earlier on, there's a cabal at the very top that is unobjectively evil. Um, done, right? Yeah.
I mean, there there's no morals there. No. And so when ETSs say, you know, don't like them, I think that they're very much aware of what we're doing.
I think that they're aware of every darn one of us. Yeah. On this planet.
I really do. Uh and you know, I love finding patterns and strange cases. The high strangeness.
Here's high stranges for you. Let's go. This ET phone calls thinking this is, you know, like a ET calling someone.
Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm interviewing this guy from upstate New York.
Doesn't want his name used. Uh I think his first name was Kenneth. I'll go that far.
Okay. Uh full on doesn't like this stuff. He had missing time.
It's very traumatic for him. They end up pulling him on board, showing him his hybrid child, like isn't this great? And he's like, "No, what?
" Horrified and like loving this child at the same time. So really, really hard for him. He's a nurse.
Uh, at any rate, right before this happened, he's driving along and his phone starts ringing, his cell phone in a way that it he's got a song set up for when it rings, you know, music. [snorts] It's not doing that. It's going beep and it says no number and he's like just ignoring it and it keeps going.
Finally, he answers it and hears these clicks, clicks, click click click, the time is coming in this weird voice, not a normal voice. [snorts] And he he kept getting these weird phone calls and my mind starts thinking, "My god, Bud Hopkins, his case with uh Debbie Jordan Cobble. " Yeah.
Right. The Wednesday night phone calls. Wait, Ray Fowler, Betty Andreas, she had this too.
Um these weird phone calls. She has lots of clicks and L's and T's and and I'm like, "Oh my god. " I started digging Jack Sarati.
Those Yeah. the famous call from the future or whatever that was. Yeah.
So I started I found all these cases which no this fits in because ETSs are electromagnetic effects. Sure. You know I recently looked at a case where this guy saw a UFO on TV.
That's the image came up. ET is coming out. One week later that happened to him.
A lady in upstate New York saw gray on ET on the television. Yeah. It was coming through that.
I talked I was at a convention once. This guy comes up to me. He's like, "You're gonna think I'm crazy.
" I was in my house. The TV screen comes on and shows the interior of a UFO. Little Gray is walking around.
So, he runs up to get his parents. Wait, can't get them to wake up. Running through the house.
He's looking at the TV, losing his mind, looks out the window, there's the UFO hovering overhead, goes back to the TV, and it fades away. Have you ever heard of anything like that? I'm like, "No, I sure haven't.
" Well, I have now. Um, so yeah, they can affect electromagnetic instruments in ways that are ET contact can happen in a variety of ways. What about the Ashtar command?
Uh, [sighs and gasps] not buying it. [laughter] No, I'm on one side of the fence. Yeah, that's fine.
I don't I just mentioned it because it did, you know, fit into this. I mean, there's a crazy pattern. They found a bunch of cases of yippos hovering over prisons.
Oh, really? Landing next to it. ET's coming out.
One guy pulled from his jail cell, put back in. Oh, that might that must have been a good day for him. It was for a while.
I don't know why they didn't just take him out. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah.
Go run. Just on the other side of the wall. Put him back in.
He was in I talked to him personally. Wow. He's uh he spoke French.
I I speak French. Well, I can speak. I can't understand it.
Sure. [laughter] I took it for eight years. So if you speak real slowly, I can But he spoke in a way that I just couldn't get it.
And the recording wouldn't come out so mad. But he was in jail for smoking marijuana. Oh.
Uh which now it's like what a terrible offender. Yeah. Lock him up for life.
Yeah. And they put him in his house or in some Yeah. I think it was his house.
Yeah. I never got to record, you know, transcribe the interview. So, I can't really use it.
Yeah, sure. If you're not going to let me record you and Yeah. You know, it's I can't use it, you know.
Uh because I have to be very I have to have proof that I at least talk to this person. Of course. Yeah.
It's minimal uh journalism, but yeah, Colorado prison. Um they visited three, four times. I got cases of them landing, the humanoids.
Tell me about some of those. I want to hear about maybe just like one or two because these ones fascinate me as well is the uh the ones that look like us that are among us. Yeah.
That you hear about, you know, that kind of just blend in. People don't seem to see them and then somebody goes, "Oh, you look strange. " And then they talk to them in their minds and go, you know, she can see us.
Oh my god. Or have you have you had some of those people call in or like or hit you up? Um, in terms of ETSs am walking on Earth among us.
Yeah, people who have had encounters with with those. I I've certainly gotten human looking encounters, human, but in terms of walking among us, I'm sure I have. I'm trying to think of one.
But like humanl looking ones like you're you're speaking of those are on board. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Because I've had a few where people are like, "No, I was, you know, at a grocery store and, you know, they were wearing just the most beautiful gares. " So, so I do know about a whole bunch of them where like uh John Hunter Gray and his son Richland Center Wisconsin had a full-on abduction.
I don't like that term. Sorry. Onboarding encounter.
I I stopped using it because I was offending people. I call them onboarding experiences. Uh and they felt it was friendly anyway.
So, yeah. But prior to their onboard experience, they're at a gas station. They, you know, he remarked on this as being connected.
There's this little guy, four feet tall, wearing a fisherman's cap, covers everything, you know, gloves, it's a hot day, glasses, some some you can't see anything, right? And he's they could see his eyes through the glasses. He had beady little eyes and there, you know, context will almost always mention the eyes.
The eyes, the eyes, the eyes. So he's like, who is this? Why this guy?
He's so weird. He's staring at us. This is crazy.
So, they go away from the gas station. This guy follows them. I think it was in a VW bug all the way turns off.
That's when their car stalls. That's when the UFO lands. That's when they're taken on board.
Oh my gosh. And of course, Betty or was it Debbie Jordan Cobble met the ET on the bus? Uh people have seen them in restaurants.
And Swan has that one famous case. Grocery store. Yeah.
Yeah. There was um Richard Dolan shared a few with me as well. Timothy Good.
Yeah. And then I had one I actually emailed this guy back just yesterday. Um but he told me about Yeah.
It was a hardware store. Two very tall 6' 9 6' 10 women, beautiful twins dressed identical, walking in lock step in a hardware. The most insane thing.
and nobody turned their heads. Hans Hoser, he wrote a book about UFOs. He's got this, it's a pseudonym, Shane Kurs, a student who was walking to school.
This is West Morland High School in New York. It's funny, I can remember these details because the UFO stuff just sticks to me. Yeah.
Yeah. But at any rate, this guy approaches her and he's weird looking. He's got this white, thin blonde hair, pale pale skin, large dark eyes, weird clothes.
She couldn't describe him. She was too kind of like, "Who is this freak? " is how she put it.
Yeah. So, I was asking all these weird questions like, "Where are you going? What are you going to do in there?
" You know, "What's volleyball? " You know, just off-the-wall questions. And uh she she's like, "He's a creep.
He's a creep. " And he's like, "Well, come with me. Come see my white car in the field.
" She's like, "I'm not going with you. " And starts to walk away. Turns around.
He's gone. There's nowhere to go. Her friends come running up like, "Who was that weird guy?
" She's like, "I have no idea. This is right in front of the school. It's like three weeks later.
He she sees him in the liquor store and he's staring at her. Same guy and she rushes out. Of course, shortly after that, taken on board.
There he is. Ended up was a pretty traumatic encounter for her. Uh where that, you know, I think she they had intimate relations.
But makes you wonder because I've looked into these cases there. Yeah. There was a guy I interviewed.
saw this what looked like a gray on a bus and I've come to look for like three things. Their their behavior is unusual, their appearance is unusual and their clothes are unusual and this thing was and they'll talk to you telepathically. That happens a lot.
Yeah, that's what you hear most is just this clear sort of, oh my god, she can see me. Yeah, he pulled his chapter. I gave him, you know, whenever I write about someone, I send them their chapter.
I'm like, and he fact checked it and and I'm like, "Okay, we're going to publish the book. " He's like, "I want to pull out. " I'm like, "Oh, really?
Why? Whatever. " You know, that's his prerogative certainly.
Yeah. But I'm like I was so disappointed cuz I had worked so hard interviewing him and getting everything right. And I mean, that's fine.
I'm not going to blame him cuz it's a big deal. Super strange too for someone to um go through life having to acknowledge that versus not having to. Very enticing to do the latter, I think, for a lot of people and I think rightfully so for some people.
You know, some people are just, hey, I don't want to make my life about this. Yeah. Like I'm a person.
I have a family. I have relationships. I have a job.
I need to do these things. And so for me to derail all of that because of one happen stance that perhaps I shouldn't have even been a part of doesn't make sense. And I I I can't blame people for that.
I blame the government. Yeah. Again in quotes for not allowing Yeah.
Exactly. for basically the ridicule and delegitimizing this whole subject. Yeah.
Yeah. And and done so clinically. Yeah.
And effectively. Yeah. I mean I bought it.
Yeah. And I thought I thought I was a smart No. I absolutely bought into it.
Yeah. Now it's this term of they're in our airspace with impunity. That term I'm kind of sick of hearing.
Yeah. Who's airspace for one thing? They were here first.
Yeah. Our airspace. Our sovereign airspace.
Yeah. I don't think they presented danger to aviation either. No.
Oh, they come around our crafts and it could be dangerous. I'm like, yeah, we could have collisions only. Please, let's have one.
Let's let's acknowledge a collision then, you know, if if they're flying around there with the amount of I looked into it. I found a few cases of people who hit UFOs with their car or ran over an ET. There's a few Mhm.
Uh but statistically speaking, it's insignificant. It's less than 1%. Yeah.
There's the case. There's a few Mexican pilots. There's Yeah, that one where up on top and on the sides.
Yeah. and it damaged his landing gear. I think that that that plane was going to go down and they're like, "We'll take it.
" I mean, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
But I thought I wondered about that. Yeah. There's the other guy, too.
Carlos uh forget his last name, but he was a young it was his first solo flight that he was doing and he got commandeered by like some channeling entity and then they recorded that call or whatever. But he's got a whole bunch of missing time there. didn't know like his fuel tank was full by the time he landed and like this whole Yeah.
super mysterious. Yeah, there's a so much to unpack with this field. I'm really glad it's moving towards mainstream.
I don't think we'll ever get disclosure. I think what we're seeing now is for one reason only. The secret government, that's what I'll call them.
Yeah. Is losing control of the narrative. Now there's an army of researchers out there.
There's an army of experiencers. The evidence is mountainous. If they don't come forward and say this is real, they're ridiculous.
They look not credible. Unbelievable. They're irrelevant.
Yeah. And frankly, I have zero sympathy. They dug their own grave.
Um, here's the way I look. Disclosure to me is show us the Roswell craft. Show us the bodies.
We know you got them. We're not seeing that. And until and unless they will admit to the capital flyover of 1952.
Um, yeah, 52. Until unless they'll admit to Monstrom and Roswell and any of a dozen high-profile cases that we know are real, I don't want to hear what you have to say. You are lying.
I don't need lying liars to tell me what I already know is true. And there's a case from Virginia Donald Shross. I love this case.
UFO lands, human looking ETSs come out and he's like, "Oh my god. " has this conversation with him. He says, "Why don't you just disclose?
" They gave him a look like we already have. That's what they told him. "We already have.
" And I think that that's true. They've done their part. This UFOs overs have.
Oh, yes. The this hometown series I put together proves that basically they've visited everywhere on this planet. You can name any town.
And I don't want to say any, but so far I'm betting 100%. Uh, they've been there. That's disclosure.
You know, they've shown themselves pretty much everywhere on this planet. So, come on. How much how much information do you need to know this is real?
It's my feeling that anyone who's objectively examines the evidence and I'll underline that objectively and looks at it for a day can only come away convinced. And for those debunkers and skeptics out there, I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude, but you haven't done your homework.
You have not done your research. I mean, how they're like, why don't they show themselves to presidents and leaders of state and senators? They have.
Absolutely. I did a whole article in my not from your books. Take me to your leader because yeah, they showed themselves to Senator Russell, Governor Gilligan of Ohio, uh the guy from also the um the president of Kikia, my buddy Jesse Michaels.
Yeah. Went out there and he's he's a contactee like Yeah. an on border as you'd put it and a major chess champion too by the way.
Yeah. The head of Feday or at one point. Yeah.
Yeah. But the Mexican president, the Brazilian president, a bunch of them as of today, the Japanese government is coming out as well. And no coincidence, Jesse's over there covering that story right now.
But um they're they're coming out and saying that they're going to start releasing things. It's time. It's past time.
I I think it's good that these other countries are taking a lead. I think that sets precedent because if anything, if nothing else, it it will entice, you know, the government that's been covering this stuff up to at least dulge something because these if everybody else comes forward with really credible information, I mean, what other choice do you have? You have to be on top of this, right?
Sooner or later, a whistleblower is going to break out with the actual hard proof. Yeah. I think disclosure is inevitable for one simple reason.
It's true. This is all true. You can hide the truth.
You can distort it. You can lie about it. You can play around with it, but you can never destroy it.
Truth is truth. Yeah. And there's just no way you can hide something forever.
Well put.