Welcome back to new rock stars Avengers doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars are on the far distant Horizon of the Marvel Cinematic Universe slate that we now have a clearer picture of Than Ever After San Diego Comic-Con in d23 but there are so many empty spots for any other titles that we don't really have release dates for but in this video Jessica Clemens and I have joined forces in the same Studio space for a special Edition of the sneak peek that will now just not be special this will be the normal thing yeah this will just
be the normal thing where we're sharing a little screen you somehow added 10 lb to me you need to move off screen I've added 10 lbs to myself because I've just been eating comfort food you've been oh I'm sorry all those Skittles I'm sorry so many Skittles all of the Skittles I was going to make a joke about how you need to stop eating Candy when you're sad but then I just remember you're allowed to be sad right now oh thank you hey it's it's we're here together CU I've relocated it's been like the craziest
two weeks of my life but we're here now and I think we just need to do a stateof the MCU special episode just so we can catch up on ourselves cuz we didn't do we both didn't do d23 but we got we were watching online we were watching us and everybody else online but before we get Into everybody else online this is the sneak peek the weekly show at new rockstars where we look to the future of fandom and I'm here today Jessica Clemens with Butthead McGee over here booty booty butt cheeks over here butt
and McGee booty butt cheeks but McGee live on the scene here at new Rockstar HQ we're going to break down everything we know about the upcoming slate of the Marvel Cinematic Universe cuz we have some answers finally but we Have even more questions and there are some like soft announce titles but that can't be it there's got to be some other big titles that they're saving for next year's ComicCon or just like whenever feige feels like it's time to announce it well they're still missing um a little bit from Marvel Spotlight so next year could
be just an introduction of all Marvel Spotlight we got Marvel animation we got Marvel television and the MCU are picking up speed but no One's talking about Marvel Spotlight and he he confirmed in of these podcast interviews that they do have at least two Marvel spotlights planned but he wouldn't say which one he knows for sure is in production her development right now it can't be white Vision Oh you mean Vision Quest that's going to be a series Jessica calls it white Vision but that's what we'll all be calling it cuz what other vision is
there Kevin feige at one point call him white Vision too Kevin Feig was like oh white vision and I was like as opposed to what Kevin feige red vision is just a a pile of a mess of scraps a box of scrap a box of scraps whatever uh there's a there's like a a Multiverse instead of red hulkk they get red Vision but it has to be something that's they're introducing right isn't it kind of still origin based Marvel Spotlight shows yeah it's supp Marvel spotlights I might maybe I was thinking of special presentations We're
going to have like special presentations I still don't know what those would be yeah I don't know what they would be all right let's break down what we know for sure is happening next up on the Slate Agatha All Along coming September 18th the first two episodes are dropping on September 18th and I believe we have nine episodes total and it's goingon to take us through early November we're gonna have a special Halloween week it's gonna be like a Halloween celebration Jessica just broke down the trailer that was released at d23 and they uh The
Ballad of the witches road is a song that uh you did such a great job breaking down the lyrics of it oh I was going through the lyrics that weren't even featured in the trailer I guess when you're at the at d23 the actual physical exhibit at d23 was playing the song and so people were writing down the lyrics so thank you guys for writing down the lyrics yeah And and shout out to Scarlet Witch updates on Twitter you've been doing such an amazing job breaking down everything and every little morsel of an update we've
gotten but like they they're including everything from the history of witches across all IP you broke down the stuff from uh the the Wizard of O How Lilia caldero is like dressed up as galinda ginda versus galinda uh but ginda would be in the Gregory Maguire Wicked musical but uh Gregory McGuire wrote the book um there was one person in that room that did say that though I know for sure one person in that Agatha room said exactly what you just said in the victor me movie it was just Glenda the Good Witch of the
North and they dropped the G I think in in Gregory McGuire's book she like dropped the uh like the the it was a one or two syllable I suppos a three syllable these poor people on sneak peek are learning so much about Wicked that They never asked every time we bring anything back grateful that you have it and you should be be happy you're getting this this is that is that's a good musical it's a good musical it's a good story it's so good um but they're also bringing in stuff from the craft you know
Aubrey Plaza is like it's all the craft I love The Craft and then uh definitely some witches of MC Beth which fun fact I believe one of the earliest of examples of witches as depicted in Modern contemporary uh folklore because witches obviously went back to you know Greek plays and stuff like that but witches as we know them as like huddled around a big cauldron stirring it ENT yeah the entertainment witch or whatever you know it's what we know it's that's what happens when you have long histories passed down through generations we're going to like
ooh these are scary yeah uh Shakespeare's MC Beth's version of uh Witches was so popular and such a Blockbuster in London theater at the time that like that inspired so many witches that came after it uh the fact that they speak in rhyme in this particular way and and Shakespeare added the witches to the beginning of MC Beth because he was telling the story of like a tragic King in Scotland and he's like it's not sexy enough to the ground Lanes on the pit in the pit we need to give him something some red meat
at the top Of this play he's like you know what it I'm going to start with some witches speaking in rhyme and then that's why people were like whoa and they were so freaked out by these witches so anyway uh they I believe the ballad of the witches Road mentions toil and trouble and there's like little homages to Shakespeare's witches which I thought was really fun you and I started together a new rockstars really talking about uh Wanda Vision it was such a Magical time for us talking about you oh are you I am I
yeah obviously I misto on our breakdown because of that giant I did no you know I didn't want to no thank you for giving him a shout out cuz he'll find his way in if you don't I didn't want to but there is a giant snake in the trailer that has M's all over it and I was like how am I not I know it's not him but I was like I know that you guys are going to get mad like I know that someone in the comment is Gonna say maybe it's Mista I think
anytime we talk about Agatha we got to make it clear we do not want Mista no I do not want it in there and I said it in the break that I was like I please don't like there's enough happening that I'm more excited for not Mesto but in this instance I thought you did a good job pointing out the M's and and like cuz the M were in the design of Wanda's Crown right didn't she have this kind of and it wasn't just us making that up Like the set designers were like yeah I
put this m in there this kind of specific m shape and specifically there was a shape of the Soul Stone that was designed into her collar uh there were all these cool details that they put into the costumes of that show um but yeah this this trailer is going to have or this show is going to be so interesting to us and I can't wait to talk about it with you on New rockstars but but doesn't seem like the fandom Isn't as excited for it like there's I've seen some comments saying like we didn't ask
for this show we don't want this show I I think just like every fandom or every umbrella fandom like Marvel has so many different versions of superhero movies that it's not just one Niche superhero topic I think there's a specific reason why the girls gays and they are very excited for Agatha because they love kathern Han they love ABY Plaza we love witches we love Halloween Time I said we as I'm representing all of them now um but but I think it's like it's very important to some people and some people have been making it
very adamant important but I do know that like even if that's a third of one the Marvel fan fan base is there's going to be a lot of people that aren't going to be happy about it just like the same people that also weren't happy about the marbles yeah not saying it's the same thing but I'm just saying it's like it It does have a fan base it clearly does it's like the same people that would root for like the this is a very weird Niche group that I'm about to bring up but like where
Superman's from and like when he came to Earth people probably from Kansas or wherever are like oh we're from Superman Town keep does this make sense I think I understand what you're saying and it but I think the reason why Disney was so excited to push this Through is Disney has always loved witches from the Hocus Pocus years back to their first featurelength animated film Snow White being uh centered around this villain of the witch you know uh and I think that's why Snow White was such a big part of d23 is like Disney as
a studio always been so witch centered well they've been coming out with that movie forever and then haven't shown any bits or pieces on it I'm not that excited for it I kind goofy no one's That excited for Snow White it does look goofy not because of the didn't they do aren't people mad about the CGI on it CGI which is does not blend very well with that actress but well I've seen a lot of people mad at Snow White for making all the dwarves work for her she's like together we will play this place
she's like you do it yes and they were doing that lie it wasn't just her Cinderella was doing it immediately when they got changed into the horses she was Like yeah turn she said she said I got a new dress you're GNA drive this has always been the case uh but I think like man when that needle drop hit in Agatha or one division episode 7 the Agatha all along like that was one of the most enjoyable moments ever as a Marvel fan so I I've been ready for this show and the fact that they're
shooting so much of it like practically on a set that kind of looks like a story book set and they get they Got this awesome lineup of Aubrey Plaza Patty Leone sasher Z and of course like kathern Han like Joe lock it just looks like such a great cast and they're all there for it and I I'm really excited for the show even if it doesn't have major consequences on the MCU I think it's going to be a really fun ride for nine weeks eight weeks uh yeah it does look like every episode's going to
be just them on the witches road going through another trial which I love more Than anything I think if it does make a big thing a big wave to the CU it would be that she's probably our new Wanda not like our new exact Wanda Wanda's not dead but I do think for the time being it would be nice to see more Agatha in that role yeah of like our this our witch Queen the next title on the Slate is Captain America Brave New World coming February 14th 2025 and we saw some footage at San
Diego ComicCon and they also showed a slightly longer Version of that at t23 including more of red Hulk's transformation and that ended up leaking online so we got to see Harrison Ford's pepperoni nipples and people are very excited about that red Hulk I mean it I'm so excited for this movie and we've had some internal debates here at new rockstars people are like this movie looks goofy the CGI of the cherry blossoms in Washington DC looks goofy I'm like I just love the color palette of this movie it's red White and blue and a little
pink in there and I'm just like so pumped for this movie I think it's going to be awesome what do you think I'm excited for it I think the first trailer that dropped didn't get me that excited I was like oh this sounds really good remember uh Evan showing me the trailer on his laptop and thinking he was playing his music in the background what's Evan's music well I thought it was like this dubstep it's the same thing that's Playing on the Brave New World music when it's black it's going from black and white and
I was like I was like will you turn your music down that's how much I didn't I was like not in the trailer when he was showing it to me I was like oh oh this is the music for the trailer oh never mind my bad um but then the second trailer that we saw I was like oh this is really good and then this one I was like oh my God I'm just so excited for Red Hulk especially seeing them at Uh San Diego Comic-Con and they all are so buddy buddy it made me
want to see this more it made me want to see it more so I'm very excited for it I'm Harrison Ford go off have fun please don't make it be your last time I don't want Red Hulk to die yeah I think what people are worried about is not so much the CGI it's like what is the core story of this is it like they added this whole thing with uh with Jean Carlos bazito playing uh Sidewinder right and and that was Added late so the number of re-shoot that happened in this movie how good
could the story be it does seem to be very like heavy-handed Marvel Studios produced by having like this color palette that seems like a movie shot for trailers to have red Hulk show up in the trailer uh what is the story going to be underneath it this is a story the movie it's going to bring back the question of tiamut in the Indian Ocean just to bring an adamantium into the like it seems Like a building blocks being put in place as opposed to a movie to these critics not to me to them I say
isn't that what Marvel Studios has always and we are hookline and sinker addicted to this [ __ ] and I will line up to see these movies no matter what no matter what so I think that is uh I I'm still excited for it just because I really love Anthony Mackey's take on Captain America so really the thing about Brave New World is it's like what whatever This movie ends up being it is something that you know Kevin feige when asked says that the 2025 release he's most excited for is Fantastic Four First Steps so
Brave New World and Thunderbolts just kind of seem like that they green lit and they're doing their best that they can with them and specifically with Brave New World it seems like the studio just took that movie by the Reigns and made it into an MCU splash page and the way that you Know a lot of movies have been my hope is that it is uh what's a good example of this where this worked um Infinity war is an example where it worked Infinity war in in largely endgame where Infinity War they just like took
took the biggest splash pages that they could of thanos's snap like I I don't know if chucking the moon was from the comics but when he just hurls the moon at them like the previs just took this movie over and and it ended up making one of The greatest cinematic experiences ever I hope that that's what Brave New World is it seems like though they did not do this with Thunderbolts Thunderbolts are just letting it be the story that it was pitched to be well it's it's hard with Thunderbolts or not Thunderbolts with Brave New
World because they did do so many re-shoot uh but also so I personally think and I'm take this with a grain of salt please do not think I don't know I think those re-shoot are Going to put it more on track than it was originally too because I don't think it was reshot that Isaiah Bradley's going to awaken from his weird coma and then become a sleeper agent and try killing Harrison Ford I think that was already in the script I think that was always part of that was always part of it and but my
big question was I don't think they're going to ever address that Isaiah Bradley played a a completely different character in Falcon and the Winter Soldier and like his entire story was like like look at all of the things that bad happened to me and then all of a sudden the next time we see him he's going to like turn into a robot jump out a window I'm like no no no no no we get to see him throw [ __ ] across the roof that's fine but if I but I think that's all we're going
to see of him I do not think we're going to get he going to disappear yes he's going to disappear until the night did you not think that I Thought he was going to disappear until first off okay I get it that he has a super soldier to him he's still an old man so he's going to disappear into the night he's he's I okay I thought he was just going to run away cuz why wouldn't you even that some Bucky would do immediately after harming people he's like I'm going to dip out now as
a sleeper agent that's what I assume and I don't think they're going to get into it more than that and that's why I'm like o I think these re-shoot maybe will help little tab bits like that that I think aren't going to go deeper into it cuz why would you want to go deeper into Isaiah Bradley in the movie you know what I'm saying I want to go deeper no I okay settle down didn't say that said sett down I meant psychologically no but in a series you can do that but not in a movie
you're right you're right in a 2-hour movie there's only so much time and they and now they have Sidewinder They have the leader they have red Hulk they have Junior Falcon they got shiras who's not who you think which is Black Widow Black Widow it is now a black widow agent and personally I think they're going to start doing that more often with like if they're like oh maybe we shouldn't have done that they can just turn someone into a black widow yeah that's the easiest and that's why I think they're just going to do
I think that's what They're going to do sometimes and I'm going to be very upset if it's a continue if they do it all the time do you think we see old Steve Rogers in this movie yes or no I mean in a flashback no I mean do we find out where he went no he's on the moon he is on the moon okay he's on the moon digging there's no shot of him like on the surface of the Moon with binoculars looking at Earth and also he should have appeared in Falcon and the Winter
Soldier if he was still alive I'm like he was having a Sam Wilson was having arguably a harder time in Falcon and the Winter Soldier than he probably will be having in Brave New World at least people are behind him now um so I'm like Steve Rogers if now you could have shown up you should have shown up two years years ago when your boys were having a hard time both your boys whatever well uh before we get to Thunderbolts March 2025 will be Daredevil born again and it Looks like it's going to be Nine
episodes originally this going to be 18 episodes but part of the reconfiguration of the show as they split it into two different seasons and uh you did a great job breaking down this trailer um showing us what this is going to be as kind of like a fourth season of the Netflix Daredevil series uh it's going to be extremely bloody and violent and Frank Castle is coming back we see this interesting scene in the trailer that You broke down of Wilson Fisk and Matt Murdoch in a coffee shop and season two is already green LD
it's going to be shooting soon uh so this is going to be throughout March and April of 2025 in between Captain America Brave New World and Thunderbolts I I assume this will be the finale will be out before Thunderbolts do we think uh the finale of this nine episode season of Daredevil born again will tie into Thunderbolts coming out on May 2nd I don't it I don't Um 40% chance I and I'm saying 40% because the Thunderbolts in the trailer look like they're going everywhere in New York wouldn't make it wouldn't be surprising if that's
their last trip or like their post credit scene is also them in New York and they're meeting Daredevil or something uh that's the only reason I could see that situation working out because they're in so many different places in Thunderbolts they're in the desert they're they're everywhere Um but for Daredevil I think he's because we saw Kamala Khan's Dad I think it's going to be more that he's going to be meeting up with Kamala Khan eventually oh wow okay yeah you is in the trailer interesting no Cala just her dad so do we think you
know uh Echo ended with Wilson fist calling like you know the different heads of different organizations uh and you know Sharon Carter was the power broker Falcon Winter Soldier it seems like in the Thunderbolts trailer Val is in Avengers Tower um so do we think that there could be a tie-in between Val and Kingpin at the end of D born again that could set up what happens in Thunder yes yes yes yes I agree with that so you think we'll see Den and Julie Lou D on screen together in a scene 100% post credit scene
to D again maybe she's still the director of the CIA right right so you're still a director of CIA you got red Hulk going crazy as president and She's like okay I need to make sure you need to own your pieces and if she has New York that's good that's a good step and using uh mayor mayor mayor Fisk is probably a great stepping stone that man owns everybody he owns every territory in New York well he did maybe he doesn't anymore but I'm like that is a great person to get on your team so
she's probably like hey I'll give you she might have been the one that gave him those the iene pair from EO she Equipped him with that she's in Avengers Tower she probably got it and gave it to him and was like now I need you to do me a favor see I think it was the other way around I think he equipped the CIA with that technology he his uh he might have like assumed some of like the role that Tony Stark was playing for the government and supplying them with certain surveillance technology and then
since Stark Industries they they got all the Drone technology but they don't have Like any kind of innovators working for them and anymore unless Bruno from is like he's like I'm no longer going to college he's working for the government that piece of [ __ ] he he wouldn't be the first boy Bruno on their way to college and then go work for the government today's video is sponsored by Blue two it's summer it's hot you're forgiven if you're just feeling drained by the constant heat when your heat exhaustion turns into meat exhaustion it's time
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information and we thank blueo for sponsoring this video so uh a question that I was thinking about is like you know could Wilson Fisk run for president if there's this power vacuum from president Ross having an issue could he run for president and be what like Norman Osborne was as like a presidential figure and during the dark rain era and that's how we get like a thunderbolt scenario of like we have Wilson Fisk as surprise Cameo and I I would love that I would love uh even him absolving the not the storyline exactly but being
what the Green Goblin was um that would be wait you said Green Goblin oh yeah Norman Osborne Norman osne what I was thinking is like the the asteris could be Avenger it could be a replacement title for Avengers dark rain or dark Avengers or something like that like they changed the title and they reveal that later this seon I'm still hard that's not the right wording I'm still firm I'm cemented firm on the ground planted that that means the aster is the Thunderbolts as a team and they're just the second they're the second tier they
always they keep getting new Thunderbolts and this is the new one so why do you need an asterisk for that it's just like oh we Need the Avengers nope you're going to take the Thunderbolts like it's like an accident I'm stuck on it I'm stuck on it I'm stuck on it the second it's going to the title's going to change but the asteris be just like this was a mistake I'm correcting it why can't you just say that in the dialogue of the movie that's what like Thunderbolt is it's a funny line it's a funny
line an asterisk there's nothing humorous about an asterisk it's a it's a but they say it In the line if they say it in the movie if they're like don't you guys want the Avengers for that and then they're like uh why I need the Avengers when you got the Thunderbolts they're like the second tier I think a piece of a punctuation of an asterisk is a stupid way to I'm not calling you I'm calling I think Marvel Studios is stupid you think so highly of Marvel that they wouldn't do something like this I'm thinking
less and less of Marvel every Day that they don't reveal what that their titles are ridiculous but also not only are the titles ridiculous they don't they name the show after the character before they even give the character a moniker like that's that's what they do I looked at my phone because I heard it buzzing I was like maybe it's Kevin fige calling and he's gonna tell me what it is yeah maybe he will so let's briefly talk about Thunderbolts you also broke down that Trailer I feel like I'm just saying Jessica broke this down
already and she did you only you you did the three recent ones I think after this I didn't do anything okay yes so you did uh you broke down just based off of your memory and your notes coming out of Comic Con but now we have like uh it's been released it's on you can find it on social media the footage and you can clearly see this really does look like Avengers Tower uh you see uh Bob Reynolds as Sentry um who is completely bulletproof um and uh yeah so this does look like it's Marvel
Suicide Squad but it doesn't look like it has a lot of the MCU splash page stuff there's not a lot of like big previs imagery it seems like a smaller more confined story and it doesn't look like it's on a big scale I'm fascinated that this is the May release and not the uh like Captain America Brave New World looks like a big summer Marvel movie this kind of seems Like a smaller more action stunt based movie but so far based off of the footage other than like the action the gunfire the fight choreography it
doesn't look like a big Marvel movie it do look like a which is funny it looks like a spring movie it doesn't look like a summer but it does look like a spring movie which I guess May is technically kind of summer or summer spring it it it does feel like it's more dri which maybe that's what they wanted and that's what They're going for is like it's very driven in drama uh it's very dramatic the trailer was even dramatic it was a lot of dialogue of just like how am I going to be this
person that I don't know who I am it's more of that than it is like fighting and like confrontation and I'm like oh so this is just going to be like a deep a little we're going to sit down and watch like a deep conversation do you think the asterisk is galactus's Butthole puckering butthole as he's pointed his butt at the 616 MCU and he's pointing his face at the Fantastic fors univers they it's his butal and he's farting on Earth right now and that's what the as I can't wait till we figure out what
the aster means and the as I just told you it's galactus's Buttle it's Galactus buttal it's it's going to be nothing it's going to be I genuinely say galac do you know what it's going to be it's going to be like the shotgun It's going to be like oh it was actually be a bullet wound or something and I'm going to be like I'm not doing this no so let's talk about Fantastic 4 First Steps coming July 25th 2025 the only Marvel movie Kevin feige cares about right now he's like SC these other two movies
he only cares about this and I'm sure only this and then Nate MO is like X-Men 97 like they're two like these are the only two things we care about right now yeah and they're success they showed Some footage at uh s dieo ComicCon that I did a breakdown of and then they showed this to the d23 crowd as well and we saw the cast sitting here and we saw um you know Johnny Storm's outfit and he's got a very specific outfit they dyed his hair he's already in costume this looks like this is part
of the same set that's in the backer building the kind of like family dinner environment uh we see Pedra Pascal wearing this kind of checkered uh laser that he was Wearing when he was like they were showing uh Outsiders the the backer building he says we have dinner here every Sunday night at 8:00 p.m. on the dot no exceptions uh and one thing that I did not catch the first time we saw this at San Diego Comic Con is in the shot of Galactus tearing in through the windows of the backer building Herby is there
in the corner doing some vacuuming or cleaning some housekeeping Herby's there that was our first look at her is That going to be the joke is that her's going to be cleaning and be like like run away oh shoot oh no oh no get in here um so let's talk about Fantastic 4 briefly this really seems like heaven feige's opportunity to show people what Marvel Studios can really do like to get back to that kind of phase one phase two attitude of like hey you may seen versions of these characters before and it always felt
incomplete no this is the dream project and he got Michael jaino To do the music like we've already heard the music that and that music ties this footage together I'm excited to see it's just for the music alone but like what Matt shackman has cooked up with the visuals and just the idea of this movie as like a 1960s Tomorrowland Vibe of uh retro futurism mixed in with like the right stuff in Apollo 13 as just a story of like astronauts as celebrities like remembering how astronauts used to be celebrity figures and what that meant
to Society yeah that was sad because I forgot that we do not treat them like celebrities anymore can you name a single astronaut now no not now astronaut uh yeah Kelly Mark Kelly from Arizona is now a senator but he's not he wasn't a celebrity before that that's crazy to some people he was that's actually a great uh premise or like just a draw to pull from in a very specific time in history that I would love to see again and doing in with the Fantastic Four is actually a really brilliant idea yeah I think
uh we're going to see the seeds of Avengers doomsday planted in this do you think robbert dowy Jr's version of Dr Doom will I want him I want him to so bad I want I want him to so bad I do I want I want him to I don't know if it will happen but I don't see why it wouldn't I don't I don't see why it wouldn't especially if you start the seeds here we all want the Fantastic 4 we're all going to be sat for the Fantastic 4 great way to Usher like to
start it to start it all I think he shows up in a post credit scene I think this movie cannot be about Robert Downey Jr's Dr Doom I think that story needs to be told in Avengers doomsday but I think they need to pose a question at the end of this movie as he is in toiling away in a lab somewhere or maybe he's on a space station watching Galactus devour this planet and he goes what could I have done differently and he follows Reed into a rift into the Multiverse or something like that but
then we see his origin story in doomsday yeah they're going to have to speed a lot of things up for Fantastic 4 which I think they're already prepared for because they're like everyone knows us uh and we all should but it it doesn't seem like we're going to get like too much of they're going to start immediately like here's the middle of our job and the middle of our day and this is like the 800th day Of us doing this like here's our building uh which is I'm like they're going to do it they're going
to make a way to fit that all in and then the postc credit teene will be Robert Downey Jr yeah what I think the movie structurally will be because Matt shackman has sworn This Is Not An Origin story which is just so interesting to see the space flight in this previs concept trailer because that is their origin story it's not really that's I Mean it kind of is like I guess we're not going to see them as udes we're not going to but I think we will see it in flashbacks really is what it's going
to be we're this main parts of the story are going to be some other kind of event that they're dealing with but we'll like flash back to y Street we flash back to to Reed and Sue and and Johnny as when they were younger when they were astronauts but I think those flashbacks will not just be like lost s it'll be Like archive footage that we splice back to from the Future Foundation and I think we'll learn by the end of the movie that the Future Foundation is trying to document and archive the story of
these Heroes 100% because their Universe has been destroyed and they're trying to preserve the story of that to tell other universes hey here's who they were and why they're so important and we're trying to find them and I think the Future Foundation is going to be Valeria and Franklin Richards trying to tell the story of their parents and trying to Archive The Story So throughout the movie we'll see like oh this this uh space flight footage from the back Foundation uh excelsor Launchpad and in the East River you know and that's how they should just
open the movie is do those cold open credits that we used to do back in the day and along the those credits are the video footage of them like growing up to this it's Like uh what the narration was uh revealed to be at the end of million dooll baby you know we just thought this was just Morgan Freeman talking at us the way he did March of the Penguins and sha Shank Redemption and the final line of million dooll baby is just it's spoiler warning the movie's been out whatever 20 years is he's saying
I just thought you would like to know what kind of man your danad was and you realized that the entire movie was just him Writing a story to Clint Eastwood's long-lost daughter who uh after he made this horrible decision not a horrible decision the difficult decision to pull the plug I um I reacted like I have not seen this movie in my life when you said it I went oh and I went wait Jessica you've seen this movie oh but Fant we all saw and immediately forgot that movie I did and also I kind of
I think I pushed it out to the back of my head because I was very young when I watched It I was distraught um because our our Clint Eastwood film uh understand Trouble with the Curve in Grand Torino all I watch is Gran Torino and I refuse to watch anything else uh but what I was going to say I was going to add about Fantastic 4 I do love how they're pulling these characters and I love how they got Joseph Quinn acting like a shy little brother that's like weird he doesn't seem like an [
__ ] no he they typ casted him a little too well because I was like outside of him being Eddie he does play a very like quiet shy just beautiful little man there and I'm like that's what he is in this there she's always like look at my brother and he's like I'm in a suit and it's too tiny I love all the cats and what they're doing with these characters I think that's going to be the selling point of this movie is how like well cast all these people were I think out of all
the things that we're going to talk about Today the Fantastic 4 is the one that's making the biggest push in the MCU that's going to be like oh it's this this might I think this is what we think Brave New World will be this will be the one that's like the fork in the road for all of the other yeah doomsday everything else everything else originally Fantastic 4 was going to be the start of not the start of the Multiverse Saga but like the start of phase six remember back in ComiCon 2022 Like Kevin feige
has always held up this title is the the movie where he's going to really start cooking you know it's not just like finishing out things that contractually he's obligated to do this is a movie they didn't have to do and wants to do yeah I mean I no way but up I think with Fantastic 4 you know what I'm saying like there's no way of with and same with I I think when they when we want to do when we were doing X-Men 97 I was like no way but up with X-Men 97 I was
like you're going to do fine and they cooked they've cooked on X-Men 97 so sometime in 2025 we don't have a month yet is going to be iron heart and they showed some footage it looked like the footage that they showed at uh d23 in 2022 Oh I thought it was Cinema con uh I yeah because I saw it early and it was like Ryan cougler came out introduc it and yeah it looked really it seems like a similar trailer but with like different music and some different shots But uh um it looks like this
show has been wrapped for a while now uh but we see Riri being kicked out of the MIT from Jim rash's character from Civil War we see more of uh anony Ros say Parker Robins the hood uh trying to make money through illegal means to build a new suit um this could be the title where Mesto finally appears this is isn't it supposed to be Sasha Baron Cohen is supposed to be in the show as misto now normally the hood uh communes with Damu To get his because he brings some magic some dark magic into
this but rumor has it that he's going to be making a deal with misto this makes no sense to me I just want to make this very clear think Sasha Baron Cohen is misto makes a certain bit of sense but in this show so weird and it would only be like a 30 second Cameo of him giving the hood the hood giving him the outfit that's it and that's why I'm like give it to anyone else any small I would rather you give It to Madison from shehulk she somehow comes through a portal and gives
him it to him she talk to the goat yeah she's talked to the goat I would rather it be her I don't need it to be misto and watch misto become one of the black widows they're gonna they're gonna that he was also a black widow I think they're gonna switch it up I think they're going to switch it up cuz there's a CH you when was the first time you saw the trailer how long Ago it was like two years ago that's two years ago so I'm like they could easily like switch it up
all of a sudden and not make it misto I don't know I think they're just like we'll just put this out and they're kind of obligated to take on Riri Williams is great but do you how much do you think about her from Black Panther wakanda forever the past two years you're asking a black girl this all the time you really think about her all I love I've been waiting for Iron har I've been I've been waiting for as soon as she got kicked out of MIT in the trailer showed up on Twitter I was
like oh my God cuz it's picking up like right after wakana forever so I immediately was like oh let me go back to her dorm room and go look around at all the things she's going to lose um and also the shop she's going to lose uh that she makes her suit in I immediately was like oh I'm intrigued I also read her comic so I was like oh her never I'm Not going to say what happens in the comics because it might be a spoiler oh sure I think her suit is very exciting I
think the suit she got in wakand Forever was just too advanced and too like Power Rangers Z she's too smart well it's also a mock 2 suit it was I want to see the suit she builds is more interesting because and this will be it and that's what I want I want so does why would she give up the wakanda suit I need to know what happens because they took it away Didn't they weren't they like you can't have it because you made it with us oh sorry no no I I just I'm more interested
in her and her engineering and what she can bring to it and I I'm I can't wait to see what suit she actually Builds on the show like we've seen some examples of it in this trailer footage that's come out on but I just don't trust Marvel Studios to get this story right no um I don't think they do a lot of PC's right uh they Denied Sam Wilson a bank loan um and I'm not over that and no one will remember that but me for some reason I think it's just because it was so
funny when it happened I was like oh yeah they don't get money no one cares about you you're Falcon sorry I didn't mean it like that I was like I I don't think they're going to get it that right they also it was in the time when they were making it when they were kind of throwing things together they were like we just need to Finish this let's push it out and then they held it for so long like it was shot before the strikes like it was done and they held it for so long
so I'm like I don't know I think they want to push it out but I'm glad they're doing the effort doing like the promo stuff and letting her on stage and letting her like showing her off again because it seemed like with Ekko they were just like just throw it out yeah throw it out January 10th middle of the week all at Once all at once and I'm like o I didn't even get any like promo stuff I didn't see anything online about it but this they're they're giv a chance they're giv a chance I
think also Anthony Ramos and Twisters uh rekindled people's heart for him after the cheating scandal we need to do a special episode on this cuz I no idea what you're talking about I don't know what you're talking about you would love it go down the ti distracted this Sumer I haven't had a chance to look Into this you were but it it it involves him in footage of him at a strip club with a girl with another girl like not in and this is why he was kicked out of the try guys what I I
obviously don't know what's going on with it they're friends of the channel I know these guys yeah I was like I've hired them before we're friends yeah but um no I think it is I think they're I I hope it's good the way that they're talking about it at least Sounds promising blade we got no updates on blade at either ComiCon or d23 which is just like just tell me you're not doing it tell me you're not doing I guess that's not what these big uh media announcements are about you don't want to S give
negative news but what is happening with this just tell me you're cutting it just tell me I at this I I think they're so afraid of how or Not Afraid but they saw what happened with David zlov and Warner Brothers and they Were like ooh maybe we shouldn't like we need to put these out no matter what and I'm like but you you guys are stringing not only asong these poor actors on the show you got you got mahash Maha doing your guys's like uh PR right that your lead actor should not have to be
the one to come to us and tell us to hold out to like tell us to be there now will they betray fans if they instead of canceling blade just repackage it as a midnight Suns movie I would love if they make Blade the point on it the lead he's getting the gang together like I wouldn't I personally wouldn't be upset and I would hope that people I I still want a blade movie but it is also even you got it's been so long that even Deadpool Wolverine are making fun of the fact that there's
no blade I know that look that he did he just raised his eyes what if they announced a title called blade colon midnight blade midnight and then now it Tells all of it's still a blade movie Blade hyen but like then you don't get it confused with the 1998 blade because we just saw Wesley Snipes in Deadpool and Wolverine it can just be blade midnight and then it's blade and then he is leading this team or putting a team together with with moonight with every's already doing that they're already doing if they could find a
way to make it less like Thunderbolt how they're getting the team together I I would love a midnight I would I'd rather have a midnight s to be honest I don't then you would have to call it midnight Suns s o NS or S NS which the game did and you could just have it blade midnight and then the team just called Midnight whatever and it can it can have anybody it can have people from Agatha in it maybe that was their plan after blade they were like oh after blade we're going to we're going
to bring the hood time to we don't want to do they couldn't agree on what the Origin story would be and then you know um it's you mention the fact that it's supposed to come out around the same time as Ryan cougler and I think right they got a sense of what Ryan cougler script was and they're like [ __ ] that's exactly what we were going to do for play and like we can't have Marvel's like one of our best directors do another movie that is like the same kind of story story with Michael
B Jordan Michael B Jordan and Ryan cougler Directing that's insane and then there's another actor in it who was going to be in both movies right uh Dory Lindo was going to be in both so I think they're they're like we can't do this anymore and I think just make it blade midnight make it like a midnight Suns movie and have misto be the villain or at least they're holding like and using that the time to their advantage they're like oh well we got time since we don't want it to come out anywhere near Ryan
Cougar's Uh vampire movie oh God because the we've heard um we've heard maha's voice in the MCU in the eternals post credit Ste we says are you sure you're ready for that Mr Whitman he's already there putting a team together so make that the story that's true just make I think it was supposed to come out after blade they were like oh they should have just never did that they should have never released the fact that they were coming out with a blade movie they should just Went they should have just jumped to that again
this was during the time they were kind of just throwing things together in a little box they were like everyone needs an origin not everybody needs an origin clearly we know who blade is just as much as we know the fantastic four is you just need to start them just start them let him go and blade origin or midnight blade would have been good and you know you can get kid Harrington for like $100,000 so you Don't have to pay him much wait what he's not worth a lot of money anymore he's a TV he's
TV he's not movies but he's G at this point this guy's been paid probably $2.5 million I would imagine just for still say staying involved you can get like a smaller talent to be the other guys will I will say Katherine Han I think is more than uh Jon Snow as well um cther so she'll I know kingt at the end of Game of Thrones you know Season 8 he was Making quite a bit of money that's what I'm saying that's what I'm stuck on I was like he made a lot of money and then
you can just throw Anthony Ramos in there as the hood okay so we have Avengers doomsday coming May 1st 2026 and we have Avengers Secret Wars coming in May 2027 so those are the tent pole title releases that we know are coming Avengers doomsday is going to be Robert Downey Jr probably like he's going to be the star of it it's going to be an Origin story for this version of Dr Doom vengers secret war is probably going to be like the end result if time runs out but what are the other titles do you
think will'll get along the way so Avengers or no vision quest your white Vision Story coming at some point in 2026 I would imagine probably um uh and then beyond that we know there's going to be a Wonderman TV series oh yes uh there's going to be we haven't heard anything about armor Wars in a while That's I have I I have you think they can it I think I've completely forgot to the point where I'm like even when it is brought up to me I'm like n name the the other ones are more I
think realistic arm Wars at this point we think there's a shuni too because that's what Destin Daniel Kon went to after leaving uh Avengers 5 and they're very adamant Daniel Destin Daniel Kenton about it uh about there being a second shuni I trust that he's like no we're gonna make it Happen and I'm like I think it's still happening too and what I hope that is is like I want it to be a true fighting tournament movie like Enter the Dragon like we wanted yeah like Mortal Kombat but like a Marvel version of Mortal Kombat
and that could that we that's what we thought the first Shi was going to be but they needed introduce a character of shangi throughout you know his life and his father it was a fatherson story and it was better off For that but now that we know all the characters and we have all these different Warriors all kinds of Black Widow agents out there let's get them all in a fighting tournament I would be okay a full two hours of that yeah I'd watch it that' be Thor Ragnarok no Thor Ragnarok was its own thing
you're like we're not talking about Thor Ragnarok get it out of here it should be leading up to Secret Wars we have uh oh some characters like pitting characters Against each other to pick their team for secret it should come out between doomsday and Secret Wars that should be a good late 2026 early 2027 release I'll agree I'll agree with that because then it'll be like all of a sudden like three of them or something magically appear on Battle world it's like oh at least these three have worked together before so they know how to
interact and do everything that' be fun somewhere in the midst of this Will be Spider-Man 4 um now Sony controls when that comes out but it's going to be an MCU Spider-Man story and wasn't there some news this week that um Sony if Sony does a version of a villain marble I saw that I just saw that I read that and I was about to ask you that and I was like I mean there's still a lot of villains out there especially like you can just make a really fun one she was a really fun
one but that does mean like we don't really get uh a lizard and I Like I love or lizard a craven a Venom a Carnage any of the get ones from the game basically cuz the game showed a lot of them I what I think is you could just do a good Spider-Man Kingpin story with Miles Morales yeah I think that works great and and that also makes them more establish or helps the Daredevil people into MCU be more established uh is have him interfering with King which yeah they should I think there's a great
story there that that can be told Doesn't need Venom in it just needs miles we need miles Daredevil updates on Twitter actually mentioned that there was some stuff shown at d23 for Daredevil that wasn't in the Daredevil trailer and one of the things were like the um the art the concept art and one of the Arts was him swinging in um New York City and now I'm obsessed with the fact that I'm like oh we should just have him hanging out with Spider-Man at some point they need to they need to Intertwine yeah so I
think it should be a merging of Daredevil Bourn again and uh and the world as it was at the end of Spider-Man no way home and it would work so well cuz he's so sad it' be perfect oh my God that would work so well I think that was part of the DNA of Spider-Man No Way Homes final act the fact that he swung past Rockefeller Center in the snow and this was coming out as Hawkeye was coming out and introduced uh Fisk like within four days We got a reintroduction of Charlie Cox as Matt
Murdoch introduction of denafo Wilson Fisk uh and that was right around Spider-Man season and I think that would be like a perfect Spider-Man 4 story I would love that oh team up with Cox and in Holland the upgrade would be like him he's an adult now so it's like oh here's his real adult problems I mean his problems before were also adult problems but this one is like grounded and in Daredevil people die and we see them die Horribly uh so it'd be like oh here's the crossing of our Peter Parker actually becoming an adult
and dealing with like being a human and an adult with the most yeah if if you're asking me like what is a billion dollar Spider-Man movie and these need to be billion doll movies because their joint production between Sony and Marvel and all stakeholders need to get enough money for it to be worth it the way you do that is not a Spider-Man Venom story it is a Spider-Man Daredevil Kingpin Miles Morales story but Marvel has Spider-Man they have Kingpin and dared or Daredevil so they can't do it at Sony and Sony is not going
to Leto so yeah this is the only chance you have to do it is when they're together because otherwise you got to wait till Secret Wars I assume Tom Holland Spider-Man's going to appear in secret War oh no I agree but I I'm like no that makes you make a billion Dollars off that of the Daredevil and the Fisk bringing Hell's Kitchen into it um is such a fun idea oh so these are the titles we know for sure are coming out but obviously there are some open spots in there like 2026 we don't know
anything about 2026 and 2027 other than doomsday and Secret Wars so what are the other titles they're going to populate are we going what's likelier that we get a fifth Thor or a third Doctor Strange it better be a third Doctor Strange It you guys already know my when I found out there was going to be a Thor over a strange 3 um I think strange three I also think low low key they're kind of scared about touching Thor again for a minute take a break from Thor yeah I think they're like take a break
from Thor and bring back um Hercules in in shuni to as one of the Warriors hell yeah so make that a team up that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying with shangi I'm like just bring in like not Not they're not second it's not that Hercules is second tier we just don't know him he's not established MCU yet so I'm like yeah bring that one in bring those characters that we saw briefly like bring other people like there was there were other people like comage I mean this is a very we weird Niche pool
that bull and carage bring him in I want to see him fight but like there's so many things they can do with that and they should but I don't know if they're Going to I think what they should do is early 2026 uh that February slot Valentine's Day 20126 blade midnight say blade midnight and then have a post-credit scene with Doctor Strange to set up Dr Strange time runs out November 2026 on the other side of Doomsday and then Doctor Strange time runs out the Third Doctor Strange movie could set could bridge the gap between
doomsday and Secret Wars coming in 2027 so that gives You a big Doctor Strange movie the first Doctor Strange came out came out in November of 2016 so this would be 10 years later uh to be uh November 20 uh 2026 and then that sets up Avengers Secret Wars in May 2027 and then that leaves open February 2027 for Shi too yeah I love that I also love I love the uh just making them connected in some way one one way or another the midnight suns in Doctor Strange or mainly blade and Doctor Strange I
would love for Doctor Strange to be like a ringer for the midnight Suns every once in a while in the MCU and just be like hey I'm here to help and then use a lot of his ability and be like okay now I got to go um him and Clea they have to show up they have to appear we have to follow up on that and that can't be an Avengers moov it needs to be a doctor strange movie I've been saying this if you just make them appear in The Avengers movie all of a
sudden I'm going to be so so Mad if we don't hear what happened between Doctor Strange the Multiverse of Madness and this I'm going to be so irritated or Spider-Man no way home in this so just to clarify our pitched slate for what we think it will be and what it should be starting with uh starting the year 2025 we have February 2025 uh Captain America Brave New World May 2025 Thunderbolts July 2025 uh fantastic fourth First Steps don't have a movie release in um November 2025 you Leave that open for for iron heart and
for TV stuff okay so then we get to February of 2026 that's what we need to be blade midnight or just some kind of Blade title uh with a post-edit scene that sets up a third Doctor Strange movies so then you get in May 2026 Avengers doomsday November 2026 Doctor Strange 3 or Doctor Strange time runs out uh and then you get to February of 2027 shuni 2 uh and then may 2027 Avengers Secret Wars then the other side of that then we start the mutant Saga I stand by this wholeheartedly probably more than uh
Marvel's going to give us Marvel's goingon to give us something else I'm back be like you want season four of white Vision no you're getting it I also forgot sorry I screamed so loudly at that but I did forget like oh yeah the holidays are really open for the series uh because you're going to be home and you're going To be sitting down with your family and they want you to be watching all of what if daily until Christmas uh or the for New Year I want you to watch Echo for some reason but I
I do forget like oh yeah the series for it's always going to be like October November December is going to be Series yeah so what do you think the special presentations will be he said we got two special presentations in the works what are those going to be we're talking About one we long something we only have we had werewolf by night and then we had the Guardians holiday special oh the holiday special that's what it was do you think we might see another holiday special like we could see um I could see that's what
they're leaving special wars could become a special presentation it could be there so they have the holiday and then they have the Halloween I guess yeah there's nothing really for them to do for November just a dinner they're Inviting everybody it's a soul food episode um no I don't know I don't know it's more so who would we see because werewolf by night was completely new characters and then the holiday special was returners and also it was James gun just like oh yeah I'll do this it's fun that's why he also did baby group yeah
so I don't know it's I think they do holiday specials because it it's all about budgets and contracts like like they were able to get most of the the Guardians cast back on a smaller budget and they and James gun's like I can get this done for under 20 million they like okay then you can do that as a special presentation andino's like give me 10 million and I can get this done yeah I don't know what made them want to do werewolf B but I loved werewolf by night I loved it and I want
to see if you want to introduce um Like a Ghost Rider I think a Ghost Rider special presentation you get uh $15 million $20 million get a Great horror director in great director involved and then that can be tie this blade Midnight Project that the more I say it the more I'm like that has to be who's directing who's directing uh it's not only Sean levy on Stranger Things grab one of them um to or yeah I was like give just give it that edge go back give it that little Edge and it's still appropriate
I want to see a Jordan Peele said I think appropriate for Disney uh also the Special presentations aren't that long they're pretty quick they're like 1 hour exactly uh uh I was going to say probably another like do another little offshoot for the witches Road what else is there uh what other another spin-off with uh yeah with Aubrey Plaza Rio viol oh she just lives there in the dirt she's just been shoveling through the dirt or he can do like a Young Avengers special presentation starring Joe lock as Wiccan teaming up with Kamala Khan And
and uh Kate bishop and the other Young Avengers or even Kate bishop and Kamala Khan going to get the rest of the Young Avengers and then we're like oh we're following her through this and we're figuring it out but maybe that has to be longer than an hour I think a special presentation is just an opportunity to do these special one-off titles as like limited uh limited plot limited budget but if you really care about the characters you can do Something special with them it's going to be Deadpool oh you think dead I just remember
that was like cuz that one you can just thow and he already did A Christmas special he did a Christmas little movie you think Ryan Reynolds fee is $15 million that is true well I think it's just quick and okay so if the 15 million fee also encapsulate encapsulates encapsulates uh him also writing it and then he's probably going to be like directing it I'm trying to Think how they'll cut Corners sets for crew unless he makes it stay at one place I don't know I I'm more so thinking like oh anyone will go see
that they might be willing to drop that money and he's already done a Christmas special so he already knows like what I don't think Ryan is going to do anything just for Disney plus he's like put me on a big screen I'm a big screen actor unless uh he wants to help his wife who's having a hard time right now so And maybe they'll put BL Lively in it if maybe you do a Lady Deadpool or you do an x23 a speci talk well I doubt you can get Wolverine to do one by himself no
Jack's not going to do that would I thinke would do a good special presentation x23 what if we also check in on this like Jennifer uh Jennifer Garner uh as Electro or Gambit we get a Gambit special presentation and he's stuck there like everybody else get To go back to where they were from but since he was like born there he just lives there him fishing in the void like I got me one of these no what if it's just a Christmas he's celebrating Christmas by himself that weird cave that they had it's like what
is Gambit cooking he's cooking some jumalia for all of us oh my God yes give it to Janny T oh my D me how to make my lemon those butter nuts into my mama what's up dog I'm G make a name for Myself over here it's got to become Austin Butler oh no mama I think we have to leave it there we won't even do what we're watching because this is not really so much of a sneak peek it's just like us explaining the Slate but we'll talk about what we're watching well it is nice
to have the Slate actually said especially in Timeline order and by timeline when it's coming out release date order I should say uh so thank you so much for watching Jessica it's been Wonderful doing this in person with you yeah now I can like grab you when I'm serious so I'm here in New Rockstar HQ you're GNA start seeing me a lot more on the break room uh we got a whole bunch of other new projects that we got cooking up here at new rock stars that uh it's GNA be a lot of fun it's
GNA be a really fun second half of 2024 and 2025 yeah now that Eric's here they let me adopt five kittens for the office I wish John hates cats cuz John's a bad Man keep that in the edit that in the Ed John just loves dogs more which is fine but cats are where it's at hey everyone follow J lulor Clem follow me at eaos subscribe to all three channels in the new rock stars network uh because again break room's got some amazing stuff coming up now and uh it's always been good but I'm just
like I I now I get to be selfishly a part of it he's going to force his way into our assembled and he's going to and then he's going to win Because he's going to choose actual team vote me off if I if I go out of bounds no you're going to choose actual teams well we choose actual team like I'm here to win not make friends yeah that's what you're going to do that's 100% what you're going to do you're going to steal from everybody's board all right we didn't talk about animation in this
episode but that I I just think Marvel animation's kind of on its own track this is just liveaction stuff uh but Comment down below with uh what title you think is missing from this lineup and what Marvel Studios desperately needs more than some of these other ones we mentioned uh and we'll see you next week bye everybody [Music] I [Music]
