I believe we are to keep our eyes fixed on Jesus but if a false teacher gets in the way we better know how to recognize him yeah they don't teach you how to watch out for those false teachers and so your whole understanding of what is a false teacher is based off the perception of someone else you have a a relationship through a YouTube channel or something like that there are what I like to call watch dogs out there they're just looking for a false teacher behind every Bush I mean it's really sad and they're
the ones that are after clickbait I mean this is so important what we're talking about and I couldn't wait to get here we're talking about Jesus's most important warning what is it in regard to everybody Welcome this is the John bav podcast with Arden bav and John bav yes it's good to be on with you Ard I'm excited as always yes I'm very very excited you know it took us so long to get off second Peter chapter 1 and now we're just getting ready to go into second Peter chapter 2 and um I think the
big question that needs to be asked right now big big big big big question is are we in the Church of America especially the western church let me say it like that are we ignoring Jesus's most urgent meeting that's that's the big question that's going to set up what we're going to do over these next one or two podcasts or maybe even three yeah and looking at chapter one versus chapter two it's almost like it's completely two different books it's like it's not a part of the same letter because he changes tone so significantly so
I think this is gonna be another big it's almost like you're watching this you know let's just do it like a movie you're watching this movie about love and and and friendship and then all of a sudden you got this movie that's a murder mystery on chapter two and it's like Peter did you really write in chapters yeah why did you so drastically change I mean you could take first second Peter 1 and two and just put them here and go they don't relate to each other no but in reality they do significantly do they
do and I didn't realize it AR until I was just studying and really going through this and I've been reading this for 45 years exactly and God starts showing me things I've never seen before that's why I love the Bible so much people you need to read the Bible because it's not boring it's not God's Gonna keep showing boring if you don't read it with the Holy Spirit exactly so if you if you just don't talk to the Holy Spirit you're not talking to the teacher Bible's going to be a bunch of rules regulations going
to be a bunch of History lessons and facts and all that stuff you have have to ask the Holy Spirit to teach you he makes it so exciting yeah and it's going to solve so many things okay so we're talking about Jesus's most important warning what is it in regard to Matthew chapter 24 the disciples say Jesus what is going to be some of the things that are going to happen right before you return now I'm going to tell you everybody I hope we get on this on this podcast someday we we talk eschatology we
talk about the second coming of Jesus you know aren the Bible talks about about the second coming of Jesus eight times more than the first coming of Jesus isn't that amazing okay so when you talk about it listen everybody if you don't know this but I'm sure if you're saved more than three months you know this we are on the verge of Jesus coming his return is eminent he could return today everything has been profill fulfilled prophetically there's nothing that needs to be fulfilled that is standing in the way and that causes us to live
Godly right well can I can I ask you cuz you have great mindset of how you live because some people are going to say well if Jesus is coming back tomorrow like I nothing that I do really matters and that's terrible exactly so can you share with how you've always taken that mindset of like I'm going to live as if Jesus is coming back tomorrow I'm gonna live as if Jesus is coming back today today that's the way I'm going to live my personal life but I'm GNA plan plan like he's not coming back for
a hundred years yeah because he said occupy until I come which means you don't sit around say oh we know it's going to happen this month so we're just going to run the credit cards up we're going to run our you know spend all the money in our bank accounts we're just going to have a great time well actually that's the wrong thing to do I hope you're thinking I got to get more people to come into the kingdom instead of running up the credit cards but no you got a plan as if he's coming
A hundred years from now messenger International we are working so hard on developing a 100-year plan which goes past even you it goes to your children and to Addison's children and to our other Sons children right and so and to our team members children because me I love that because I remember Da Vinci was someone who designed things that he knew he would never even be able to see so he would create Creations that he was like technology is not there yet but I'm going to create this creation based off a technology that I might
not see in my lifetime and that's why he was so brilliant and that is pleasing to God yeah because we are supposed to live that way we are supposed to do business or occupy why Jesus said until we come so Matthew 24 the guys are looking at Jesus going what's going to be some of the things that are going to happen before your second coming what's the first words out of his mouth do you remember Matthew 24 what's the first thing he says that would happen in our day yeah okay this is talking about 2024
right before he returns was it do not be deceived yes yes okay nailed it do not see be no and and this is exactly the way I said be careful yeah that you are not deceived now I have a saying that I've been saying for years and years and years I'm just going to say it if you've listened to John B before you've heard me probably say it before there's only one problem with deception and what is the problem it's deceiving it's deceiving the person that's deceived believes with all their heart they're right when in
reality they're wrong that's so scary in other words they are self- fooled okay so Jesus warns four times in just Matthew 24 that we be careful that we are not deceived okay not only that and what is going to bring deception of course it's going to be false teachers which we're getting into Jesus is not the only one that warns about false teachers every writer in the New Testament every writer ardan I didn't know this until recently every writer except James now James warns about deception but he doesn't warn about false teachers every single writer
okay we're talk we're talking Paul Peter John Luke Mark Matthew every one of them warned about false teachers which I mean I'm curious why do you think that is with James because James was I mean he was the leader in Antioch like he oversaw a lot of these teachers and you would think he would be the one he's the book that Martin Luther didn't even like he was like I want to remove this book in Matthew out of the Bible and and no no no you don't Martin Luther but James is how do I want
to say it he's pretty strong he's pretty tough he is and yet he didn't say I I I mean to my knowledge okay because I racked my brain thinking okay he warned about deception but he didn't warn about false teachers but every single other writer warned about false teachers and yet we don't talk about it now here's the sad thing there are what I like to call um um Watchdogs out there they're just looking for a false teacher behind every Bush yeah I mean it's really sad yeah so we're not supposed to be mind conscious
of we're looking for false teachers no and I'm going to tell you this repeatedly do not walk away with this but you better you better it's it's like this okay if I walk into my house and my stove is on and my Flames coming up out of the stove I'm I'm not going to sit there and be fixated on goes that's a place of danger I might burn my hand I'm going to go about my business I'm going to turn that off go about my business right I believe we are to keep our eyes fixed
on Jesus well but if a false teacher gets in the way we better know how to recognize him yeah and then not throw out everything else like there was analogy that we talked about right before going live is that just because there's fake diamonds out there doesn't mean that it causes the real diving to be insignificant or less valuable corre I think too many times where people are looking at well there's false prophets and so that means whole Christianity is completely a lie and we've got to throw all out and it's like no it it
does not it should not devalue the value of a of a man of God or a woman of God bringing the word hey everybody spiritual growth doesn't happen by accident that's why we here at messenger International are passionate about equipping you with resources to help you grow in your relationship with God one tool we hope you'll take advantage of is our free messenger X app inside messenger X you'll get access to dozens of fulllength courses sermons Audi books and more all available to you at no cost whatever your goals whether you're looking to discover your
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say this my my my example of the stove was ridiculous but let let's give another example I mean you know there are people out there trying to steal bags at airports they're to you I remember one time we were in Portugal and my assistant was literally sitting down working at a desk and he looks down his briefcase was gone and you know you got to know how to spot a thief you got to know how to spot somebody who's going to cause trouble right if you don't you might just ignorantly walk into a really bad
situation right and that's what we're trying to create is people who understand how to recognize false teachers now this one really really causes me to be sober to be vigilant Paul the Apostle I want you to stop and think about it he goes to a place in Asia and he calls all the elders the leaders that he has raised up in the Church of of Ephesus he tells them to meet him and he talks to these leaders right and he knows he says to these leaders you're not going to see my face again until we're
in heaven this is the last time I'm ever going to see you and back then he didn't have email he didn't have texting he didn't have cell phones man you're going to be really thinking hard about what you're going to leave these guys with before you never see them again until heaven right and I should say till you see them in heaven because never is bad word but anyway he said to these leaders therefore watch okay stop right there watch what does Jesus say to Peter right before his hour of Temptation Watch and Pray what
did they do they slept okay it's an indicator they all fled except for John on watch okay Paul said therefore watch and remember that for three now listen to this for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears oh oh my gosh now just stop and think about this guys this is what I warned you about day and night for three years and I did it weeping okay what was the warning it's it's just two verses earlier or the two verses that are earlier earlier okay that was Acts 2031
acts 2929 here's what he said I know that false teachers like vicious wolves will come in among you after I leave not sparing the flock even some men from your own group will rise up and distort hear the word distort the truth doesn't mean they're not going to talk about the truth anymore they're not going to be talking about astrology they're going to distort the truth and that's how they're going to draw people away I mean this is so important what we're talking about and I couldn't wait to get here and so we're going to
we're going to open this up not with second Peter chapter 1 I want to actually open it up with Jude now in all the Bible commentaries I've been studying for you guys and preparing for this because I'm trying to bring this into you know I look at bible commentary sometimes and I go gosh that's a great study I love knowing about all the history of these words and believe me it's beneficial and I encourage it but I want this truth to be relevant to today right and so in in my study though I learned something
very carefully something very interesting all these Bible commentaries always put second Peter chapter 2 and Jude together they're almost identical writings and what's really interesting is they both wrote at the same time period same decade we can safely say so because they parallel each other so well I decided to open up with Jude so let's here we go here Jude opens up dear friends I had been been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share but now I find that I must write about something else urging you to defend the faith
that God has entrusted once for all time to his holy people defend how do we defend I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches other versions say crept in unnoticed so just as you said you got to be trained to recognize a counterfeit dollar yeah okay if you're not trained you might just accept it and you got a counterfeit okay all right so they have crept in unnoticed so in other words what makes them unnoticed people have not been trained and that's what we're trying to do in this podcast
okay they another version says they snuck their way into your churches so they don't come in saying I am a false prophet and I'm going to give you the craziest Doctrine you've ever heard yeah no they come in by stealth and and what is their message this is why I'm I'm starting with this saying that God's marvelous Grace so these false teachers talk about The Marvelous grace of God but what they say is God's marvelous Grace allows us to live immoral lives wow okay so here's Jude he's saying I want to write to you about
the beautiful aspects of Salvation I want to talk about heaven I want to talk about the fact that God has delivered us right I'm so excited about this but I can't because there's something much more important isn't it interesting Jesus in talking about his second coming says the most important thing I can tell you is be careful that you're not deceived okay so here's Jude saying I want to talk to you about heaven I want to talk to you about salvation but I can't I got to tell you that people are going to sneak in
these these evil evil false teachers are going to sneak in and they're going to turn the grace of God into worldliness lewdness lentu it's going to allow us to live immoral lives now if you look at Paul the Apostle in Colossians 1:28 he says Jesus we preach warning every man warning number one warning number two teaching every man in all wisdom that we may present every man perfect in Christ the number one thing Paul said we got to do is warn he didn't say number one thing we got to do is teach number one thing
is to warn okay so these guys are creeping and unnoticed that's why we got a warrant how do you recognize the false counterfeit money okay now let's look at Peter second Peter chapter 2 verse one but there were false prophets in Israel just as there will be false teachers among you wow now here's the thing we got to talk about but okay this is the beginning of a chapter in all 24 books that I've written and you've written two books or one uh well one solo and one solo and two with a group collaboration yep
all right did you ever begin a chapter with the word butt no never I never I have never in 25 books started a chapter with the word but yeah who knows maybe someday I will why is that because the translators are the guys that put the chapters in and put the verses in and they did it around the 14th century okay this is one letter so what's going on here why the word but well this word but answers why we think this is two totally different stories chapter one and two when in reality it's a
continuation of one story yeah so let's talk about it what happened in chapter one okay God has given you His Marvelous promises to what bring out the divine nature that he has put within us when you're born again you don't just get saved from sin save from hell and save although I don't want to make light of that God put his nature the nature of Jesus Christ in us right and the exceeding precious promises the word of God what we teach the word of God is what brings that character out and that's why he said
hey be very careful to add to your faith what moral excellence and moral Excellence knowledge knowledge self-control self-control endurance endurance was NE uh uh the fear of the Lord Lord or godliness then brotherly kindness and then Christian love he said if you do these things and they abound in you you're going to be very fruitful in in in your Eternal work to glorify Jesus if you don't he said you're going to become blind and shortsighted which means you're going to stumble you're going to fall right and then he says if you do this you're going
to have a grand entrance into the kingdom of God and so then Peter says hey look this is why I have always been reminding you of these things the great and precious promises meditate in him develop the the moral Excellence the character of Jesus right I've been always reminding you he said I'm going to ensure as long as I live the rest of my life you're going to be reminded of these things and he said after I'm gone I'm going to make sure you're reminded of these things and then he talks about the fact that
this exceeding great and precious promises didn't come by the will of man came by holy men of God when they were moved on by the spirit of God right okay then he goes but there's going to be false teachers now let's look at what the false teachers are saying they're saying you don't have to live immoral Excellence you don't have to have self-control you don't you don't need to worry about uh about brotherly love and being kind you don't need to worry about having patient endurance because Jesus is your Holiness because Jesus's Grace hey we're
all human we got needs wow is that subtle now listen are we human yes do we make mistakes yes but John the Apostle never said my beloved Brethren when you sin we have an advocate he said if we sin the goal is not to sin yeah but what these guys do is they bring a clever message in and they communicate to people don't worry about it don't pursue Holiness don't don't work out your salvation with fear and trembling you're covered instead of saying that God has put his nature in you and these promises will pull
that nature nature out and you can work that nature out with fear and trembling they say Hey guys you're covered your sins are all forgiven your penalty's been paid for hey try the best you can but you know we are in this world you need to enjoy what this life and you need to you know live live for the day and and and one day you'll get to heaven it's what we talked about even before it's like so many people want to be a disciple without discipline like you can't you can't be a disciple without
discipline um my thinking too John and what I'm curious about is in a day and age where it's so much social media and all these things going on like how do we navigate this with false teachers because you have people that are leveraging calling out people left and right and and casting them down and putting that into there like seeing yes this is a wrong message but then also like in our day and age where it's just easy to have someone get up on their pedestal and call people out like what do we do I
love that you said that um in other words how do we keep from becoming Watchdogs and all we're doing is looking for the bad guys right and your mother and I have lived in a way for 40 years of ministry and saying that we're going to teach the truth so that the truth will expose the error if I teach you how to recognize a counterfeit dollar if I train you because you got to be trained there are some dollars out there there $100 bills that are so close to the real they actually train employees how
to recognize yeah when when a false one when a counterfeit comes in if I train you how to recognize a counterfeit $100 bill do I need to be next to you when that hund fake counter fake $100 bill comes into your hand no I don't need to be there do I yeah I don't need to be saying watch out that's that's that that right there is a is a fake $100 bill no what I taught you the way I trained you it taught you how to recognize it for yourself that's what we're doing on this
podcast we're not calling out names we're not calling out ministers we are not going to do that yeah well I love that because I think that's the tendency that you see from a lot of people is that they want to call out specific people and I think you know sometimes that's hey this is this is something we need to address but they don't teach you how to watch out for those false teachers and so your whole understanding of what is a false teacher is based off the perception of someone else that you don't fully know
you have a a relationship through a you know YouTube channel or something like that and you're basing it off of those things and people are using it for clickbait and for opportunities to be able to grow their own following and it's getting into this mess which I love that they're all addressing it but they're teaching they're teaching how to make sure you're aware this is what the apostles were doing and you know I now if somebody is doing something in public you see one time you see Paul correcting Peter he did something in public that
didn't make Peter a false teacher no he was really wrong he was playing the role of a hypocrite and Paul said you're a hypocrite so we got three we got three categories here we got true teachers that are right on course we got true teachers that are off course yeah and if you correct them they're going to repent say gosh you're right they're humble okay we're going to find out in second Peter one of the ear marks of a false teacher is they're not humble they're not teachable they will they cannot be corrected because they
believe they're so right okay so you have true teachers that are on course you have true teachers that are off course and when corrected they humble themselves then you have the false teachers yeah and they're the ones that are after clickbait they're the ones that all the reason I'm ministering is I want clickbait I the only reason I'm teaching is I want I want an offering and I'm and I'm sewing Discord yeah like that's the thing God hates this the thing that God so clearly says I hate and it's sewing Discord amongst Brethren and that's
why we have to be so careful with within that of like even in this day and age to not just being posting up these click baiting titles the things that are going on and then to not lump in those last two groups together because like you said is that that one group if they're humble they're going to accept it okay I'm misinformed it doesn't mean I'm a false prophet doesn't mean I'm a false teacher I'm misinformed and when you show me the correct information when I understand in scripture I'm wow thank goodness for showing me
that and I've seen you and Mom engage in conversations where you might have been misinformed and you see the evidence presented you're like I've never seen it that way and you guys have the humility to be able to accept may I may I always be that way until the day I leave this earth and and throughout all eternity I want to stay teachable I want to stay humble because you know Arden I've I've I've lived through the disaster of watching my leaders fall and not not ever recover and they're not in Ministry today and um
the thing that I saw with with the leaders that have fallen not only the ones I was under but others that we watched is they just weren't teachable and they um they had a reputation to protect and they spent more time on the reputation than realizing hey I've got an opportunity right now to show people what it really means to be teachable and humble to be like Jesus yeah you know which I remember the story you have of the gentleman who there was a guy who commented on your Instagram and I'm not trying to just
throw out since examples of you but I think I mean Dad honestly it's amazing to see that the more that you guys have grown in your platform that God has given you the more humble that you guys have become and and we've gotten to see that as Sons but I remember an example of someone on social media it was a pastor in England and boy did he come after me yeah and I sat there and I thought about what he said and I thought I see what he's saying and I went back to him and
I said you know what I see what you're saying and uh I'm going to make some adjustments over social media over social media it's so easy to come back on social media behind your wall and come back and fight against it but I you it did it disarmed him he came back and said wow um I remember my assistant one time said to me she had worked for other Ministries and she said I can't believe it a leader that actually apologizes look I'm not trying to boast in myself I think I think God has by
his mercy and Grace taught us Lisa and I things in the Bible that we want to hang on to really tight and that is humility okay and I want with all my heart to become more humble the older I get not less humble yeah and so this is one of the indicators that's very very clear about a false teacher is a lack of humility and stubbornness and pride and so um you know ardan I think we're going to close right there because uh I just feel right now that there are some people I I feel
this in my heart I feel the Holy Spirit tugging at my heart you say I have been under some real some some teaching some Ministry that actually I felt ow I felt that it was made okay for me to be able to do things in the flesh I knew we wrong I knew we're contrary to God's way and it actually em bolded me to sin thinking I would get forgiveness after I sin and just I felt in your heart you're you've been repenting in your heart and I feel like God is saying I'm hearing your
heart and so I'm just so thankful that just even us not even getting off verse one you realize oh my goodness I've bought the lie that the grace of God actually actually allows me into sin I I want to pray with you right now because I sense the presence of God on you presence of the Lord is literally on you right now and I just want you to say this with me say oh God in heaven please forgive me I have turned the grace of God into a license into permission to disobey your many commands
in the New Testament Jesus I'm so aware that you said go into all the world and Make Disciples of all Nations teaching them to do whatever I command and you Jesus I'm so aware that you said you are my disciples if you keep my Commandments Jesus forgive me I see now that I bought a lie but I humble myself I ask you to forgive me and I gladly now receive your grace that empowers me to live a life that glorifies you a life that is lived in a manner that's worthy of you Jesus I ask
that you would cleanse me with your blood and help me as I get into the New Testament that you will show me what it means to be a true follower of Jesus Christ in Jesus name amen boy I really sense the presence of God and in fact I I sense some of you actually physically I want you to check yourself the power of God literally came on your body and you were healed as you prayed that prayer it's remarkable what God's doing right now I mean I I can sense the presence of God in your
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full swing at one point we're going to start maybe reading a review every show the other thing I want to say here is there's so much we've left on the table on second Peter we didn't talk about how they sneak in we didn't talk about how to recognize them we haven't even gotten there and I want to say to everybody the next couple podcasts this is where we're going so please don't miss the next couple podcasts because it's going to be very eye openening with all my heart I believe you're going to see things that
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