Kevin Durant Returns, Part Two (Ep. 346) | The Bill Simmons Podcast | The Ringer

I don't want to say better than part one I just thought it was more entertaining you be the judge here comes first Pro Jim [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] what was your peak this year with that what do you got what do you think of Your best game was that's a team this year with the Warriors well we play okay see right off to the on the Saturday night game yeah I won at home yeah so was the ceiling of that game higher than any game last year or is it different because I would imagine

year two you guys have been playing together an extra year that there's probably the the chemistry and continuity of it probably gives it gives you a little bit of an advantage versus last year now hmm I Don't know about I just felt like we were we were wanting to win that night and we wanted we knew we had to do I really didn't think about last year edition you know what we did in the finals I rephrase or do you feel like you fit in more this year than you did last year oh I'm more

comfortable for shin-hye for sure you know I'm saying I'm more vocal because I don't you know when you're coming into a team that's new that's been successful you don't Want to come in and lead by your words you want to leave by your actions yeah you know and now I'm leading by my actions and I can say some stuff to the other guys I could talk to Dre market up stuff clay you know I'm saying Andre I'm just more comfortable because I prove myself you know what did that new additions bring we haven't talked about

your new teammates since with since our first place I mean it comes because of Nick yeah I see oh you missed it oh Thank y'all I was thinking he has a certain energy that that you just enjoy because he's Nick Young you know I'm saying yeah and when he came I told him the first few days first few games I was like yo shoot every time you touch the ball cuz I know that's gonna give you confidence I know that's gonna make you feel good about playing for us that was the heat check guy you

kind of needed understeer yeah and when he making shots when Nick Making shots they're just puts a dagger in the other team yeah he hit a big shot in Cleveland we were up like eight swung the ball in the corner hit her three I was like game's over cuz make it this shot you know say dancing he likes shimmy and it got the threes up and like I call him low so cuz his name's niccolo's you know and I'm like when lows hit this shot I'm like yeah his energy just rubs off on all of

us so when he does whatever gets fired up yeah Coach loves that he hits the three you know I'm saying and that's underrated part of playing with something it sounds like Eddie has tools like that and oh yeah you have the whole team got fired yeah you got those guys can like I want Nick to do so well just because he's Nick Young yeah you know I'm saying oh my team in Miami yeah Mike Miller Eddie House you want those guys to do so well because you just really love who are like muscles like This

today if you act when you made it that's the Sixers were like going Wow like you just really really appreciate them because you know where they come from you know like their path and the league and you just want them to do so well that's under eight a party game like the guys like Nick Nick Young you really enjoy when they make shots and they play well because you know I was you just they just make you happy you expect clay did shots and stuff and Dre Mommy you know so you expect us to hit

shots when you see Nick Young Quinn cook army Caspi JaVale McGee play well it's just like I was just so happy for these guys you know I'm saying Isis underrated part of playing the NBA you guys being the champs of sharing going into buildings was literally different than last year no seems like it was the same yeah it's the same it's still an event we don't know really people don't really want to hate us because they know you When you go to these other buildings you have 40% of the fans yeah like maybe going through

these buildings man like it gets louder and louder like introducing the starting five you got draymond Green for Michigan State hey Kevin Durant from Texas step courage I'm like yeah and that Center in that Center jaws awful Julia boohoo I'm like yeah we got our guy you don't saying that's our guy that people gonna hate that's why people who love to Hate it I hate Sasser yeah well Mike come on man [ __ ] team the best team mates ever had yeah you know I'm saying they nearly maimed somebody in the other team like twice

a year it's not that bad which I don't say nothing about bailing clothes off clothes - like beer he closed somebody it closed line somebody in there but you don't say know about that but sighs I was just fall first of all probably so now it says That he's just clumsy enough that you never know what's the touch role what's that those are always the guys that are always the most polarizing it's never it's never like if you do the freeze-frame you never know like when olynyk hurt Kevin love's shoulder that year it was impossible

to say well there was a picture Mac because he's so clumsy who knows uh all right I got more what is 50 year old Kevin Durant doing that question comes from Scott Lavin of Berkeley and I'm gonna just be chillin which NBA team hates like Hornets please know I just don't know but we are be telling wouldn't the ultimate move be to buy okay see you team [ __ ] yo I'm 29 about to be 32 in September how do you rich 41 bite time work but time I'm 50 you're what 61 whoa ho hi

big 51 it goes but it's 1000 when I'm 50 it's just gonna be remarried cuz that reader settle up in Jewish girl here 60 Imagine we are that if we keep it going oh yeah I'd like to have I'd like to have our own Oscar - and own an NBA team own Oscar yeah we're making some couch I don't really care about the Oscar but you just have to get a Laker as one of your producers you were in the ask I want to run them there's a Laker I really want to run them no

I think you're serious about that dead serious no he's dead serious no I think he good one next button Anybody well that's not saying anything but I mean a copy like Steve Mills and I really like I don't know Scott Perry's much I know Steve Mills I know Scott Perry you have to me but he's I want to run the Knicks yeah he can really nice so the movement I was the Knicks owner would be our to hire rich as my GM because I know he would like start laughing mean you have to do that

if you know by the way I did I did an awesome podcast with Bosh and we were talking About yeah he's great well the boss we were talking about 2010 he said the Knicks were never on the table you said too much noise uh-huh but that was interesting because they were never on the table for you either but for different reasons it's just yeah cuz they were they weren't gonna yeah the Scott Lavin also wants to know what your favorite clay story this could be this kid this is also wig the night before David the

game before He has 60 Klages miss practice he didn't come he just nobody like you know when practice starts just like weird what the hell is clay we called him called him Carlo he didn't come to practice he was just like just digging home and next 90s 60 we still don't know what happened don't know what happened he just was like I think he said like man I was hour late two hours late I was like I'm I was just staying Bed when we can't want to have 60 I was like this this guy I

need if everybody know where I was like play-doh what the universe would be better china china clay became a sensation that's everyday click china clay and everyday clay are the same clay yeah who is the most fun person occurs 30th birthday party other than your coach clay clay so clay always wins yeah I am Mike Brown he is hey friend Mike Brown's a great job of all time why make a great job of all time Mike Brown is a legend I [ __ ] love him can you give me a story or reasons oh yeah

I know like you know cool stories but he's just like his energy is just amazing just so just so fun to be around he's a you know he coaches from was it the freshman what he coaches in the freshman legit went undefeated further on into a game 3 of the finals or game - yeah did he give you the Brawn tips give Me LeBron to have the team why would he give us LeBron tips okay they need Daniel but why would you give us LeBron tips against LeBron that's what I mean like what to do

against him no she clearly didn't know what you I think you took offensive I'll do a man like you guys should do this because you know when I was with LeBron you did know yeah you mean like how - like how the autumn tips that he knows me when I coach Ron I've noticed I noticed this happened he Trusted us he trusted me he trusted us no Jason in Seattle you could guess where this is going when I come back to Seattle if Seattle eventually lands an expansion team or relocated continues question last part would

you consider it in your career they're the reason I'm bringing this up is because even though we answered this of the last podcast I'm still getting the question yes Preciado is for you to cabal ignored Your previous answer they're gonna ask again I would definitely think about yeah well just every time I I say this one's good this is from Anthony Flum what Anthony Flum come on what are the odds of you and rests ever having an interview on NBA TV like Shaq where you say sit and chairs facing each other that's super I just

I just don't want to do that we'll do it on our YouTube channel you should do a parody of it under YouTube channel just have him and Rest there just staring at each other it was like a a a mean just eating a pizza I'm sorry man I can't say yeah I can't say I took that chat Kobe interview very seriously you consider than eight absolutely they because they cried that's what that was a real Isaiah magic was great though they had a lot of a lot of baggage those two guys it was I was

actually happy what you say about Kobe check before they hated each other I think they dated but that's why you Would do the show yeah but I stay still I was like I hate it very much is Kobe or Shaq no way it's Kobe changes so much no hater no Kobe Shaq was so much worse than anything as bad but that also like you have to have their good Russell and Kevin are good now so it's like you'd have to get to a point it seemed like magic and I say had never talked about anything

so it's yeah no they didn't talk for years and years and years yeah I'm not carrying that burden with me about Chris all the things he's carrying that burden either oh man I want to talk to no [ __ ] no I don't think no I don't think those shows were cool though the first one I say a magic was great I didn't watch Kobe Shaq no no I just thought it was but I'm like a real 80s basketball baby so are you Bill I don't you're not really like an 80s basketball baby you're a

90s fastball baby so that was pretty big to watch it I thought I Like the burden McCallum because I learned even though it wasn't very good it don't make no [ __ ] up you like no big fan no no actually if I had premium could just stare at each other for an hour now I know that because it didn't get into they had like a real rivalry and they what was their robbery they were just different McHale was one of those guys he was like the greatest teammate ever he was like the Celtics version

of clay he just loved everything And he loved going out and he loved he didn't take it that seriously it wasn't life or death and bird was like all he wanted to do is because just one could have played in the NBA today oh absolutely there's not really a lot of guys like him though and he would have to shoot a three right like some of these guys would have had to add three-point range they couldn't have been a 20-footer guy but the Birdman Kathleen was interesting Because there were these little tips in there that

I didn't know like Michaela is talking about how birdies throwing the best entry passes and bird was saying oh it got really technical yeah and he was like yeah I used to really think about where you like the ball and he was like you know you liked it you like to be rolling toward the basket when you got the entry pass so I'd put it I think it was like some deep dive [ __ ] I wasn't cool I like that there's Good I like that because there actually were teammates and yeah but they did

not get along right they got along no they got a lie it was it was professional they just were never tied off the court yeah I think I think Burt always felt like McHale could have been greater than he was like I know McHale is awesome but I think like there was that one game with McHale scored 56 and bird was like he should have gone for 60 like he was bad and I'm gonna scored 69 days later And like a little big brother little brother thing they was definitely not like though yeah it was

good I liked David Levine wants to know are you ever cognizant about the Vegas point spreads in your game like do you ever look at the spread and say no we're only five point five five nine point favorites that's like a really ballsy question David Levine I'm just maybe you know see how games are now how much money did you lose gambling David David my wife is Gonna tell you did you watch it sorry again we might be hey he can't be married talking about the ambulance [ __ ] yeah might be Lila sin now

gamblers know me he's like when you're cognizant that you guys were seven-point favorites again three no David no relax bro [Laughter] Kelly Kuerten wants to know D this is interesting from American Idol no do you mentally separate the season In two different sections or phases no give any process at all every day is important okay because nowadays I don't want to play for awards or recognition I want to be able to make a shot from every angle on the court so every day is important to me because I want to master making a shot from

every angle so I don't really break it down I just know every day is important I have noticed with your game this year that there's an all-around aspect of it That seems like a tad higher than it's been yeah I'm looking that's where you get offended I'm looking at this like I'm playing chess instead of just like just playing like every pass you're throwing has like real like you're putting thought and tell ya a purpose no yeah and I step on the court see I thought you'd be offended that I noticed that you like no

I was like that five years ago I mean the blog boards really don't notice that I like to blog boys Cuz they gonna get upset and they're gonna write these articles about how I've changed and [ __ ] I know you sensitive and you gotta in your feelings about me when you write we write stories about me and about how I'm sensitive I love it so these blog boys won't they not gonna understand me but I'm really trying to just get better every time I step on the court I want to master every shoutout shoot

so when you read this stuff about LeBron all the stuff he's Doing with his body hmm and like maverick said he's spending like one and a half million dollars a year now in his body which who knows if that figures true but it does seem like he is as big and strong and fast as he's been in his whole career in year 15 like he's really he's 33 years old he's putting he's 33 I'm looking at his age he's 33 what does that mean the year 15 stuff like I'm never that he's 33 years old

he was 38 in this year 14 of my Whole [ __ ] right he's 30 so you're saying 33 like it's it's he's 33 years old I am he he'd take care of that he takes care of his body like nobody I've seen but when you when you see some of the stuff he's doing do you think like I've [ __ ] maybe is there stuff you could pick up whereas every person their own person we're different yeah we're all different you know saying like I'd rather work on my skills more so than like you

know hopping away from every Single day and you know I'm saying I'd rather work on my skills you know I'm saying like that that's how I'm different from LeBron well his game is more physical - yeah he's more reserved more physical so yeah I get that you don't say understand and I respect that [ __ ] you know it's hard to take care of your body every day you know professionals really have to do that well uh do you talk about that new you're better now no we didn't talk About that no why are you

killing me about the little bro I don't know old-school Rich's oats go to school you know stop there you know I didn't like when burned a magic from the conference but bird was friends with magic I didn't like it come on I can I can not like it it's there were bros it's American I have the right to choose amazing yeah yeah that was incredible the over thing was amazing I thought the Burton magic spot Show their human Jordan spot was amazing what you want you want to do with the thing when they see each

other and Street they're supposed to like drop the gloves and just yeah just final you want me just throw a punch everyone they've known each other for 15 years come on man but like the uber thing it was like this and I still think you could feel that there's a competition there yeah and that LeBron feels like you know he's the greatest in the world and he should Feel that way I mean it feels like he's the best bass player in the world he should feel that way but there's a lot of respect and they

have different perspectives LeBrons a father and Kevin's not and he asked questions about that I thought it was great maybe it was just a bit too highbrow [ __ ] outta here no because we said it over but you know when you know you know when like yo it's an uber pool I think yeah yo Rexy you know Brown wasn't Everyone I got it what do you know like the competition goes to another level when you actually know the guy yeah you don't say I didn't know LeBron it'll be like ma this is another day

at the office but we liked about this familiar I know him it was like I'm like a Texan melayu i whooped your ass up today we could we kicked our ass you know I'm saying like it's more of a competition when you know someone we talked about this a previous podcast but it's always When teammates yell at each other in the bench it becomes a big thing online so all they got into it it's like yeah there's you're supposed to sports you're supposed to it that's what happens do you guys know each other at some

point they're in this yes that's do anything right yes Mike from Nike from Los Angeles wants to know which current or former teammate of yours had the biggest entourage oh oh no oh no I'm gonna say that yeah you have an answer you're just Not giving it yeah I got an answer but I can answer that but I won't I mean I yeah yeah we know okay good okay so much for an honest podcast jeez no no I mean half podcast is entourage at ESPN know can I ask you a real question yeah sure what

do you think about these guys on like Fox Sports and ESPN like talking basketball or talking sports like Nick right since you asked me about my competition people do I think they're good or really what you Think about Nick right Shannon Sharpe who is a oh you know like a lot of the talking heads odd I don't because they are I'm gonna say that but what do you think about um put you in a spot since you want to ask me about you know like we need Bruce I very rarely gets get pleasantly surprised when

I watch people talk basketball on television you know what I like the Doris and Chauncey did a basketball game they wore the greatest Doors doors is right doors is that you hear the game cheated with Chauncey de Doris is and Chauncey like his it all found the place and he's like break and [ __ ] there's no basketball it was the best broadcast I've had in 10 years and I were in no no don't don't tell me what you think about these guys Nick rice Shannon Sharpe skip as Steven Naismith these you know these guys

they he's called wow this is it this is yeah I want to know this is the honest podcast So hates don't turn the volume down they have like their own code I don't like I don't like takes for the sake it takes so anyone who's doing that I'm a little less excited the thing I like about Steven a I know you've had issues with in the past I don't know issues with Steven a I just I don't think he knows cuz he gonna make a whole segment on his show that's right yeah oh I'm not

trying to hear that [ __ ] but what do you think I'm always impressed by Steven Hayes ability to do monologues on any certain sports topic for father saying he's so necessary though he's necessary but what about like this most incredible monologue I had to call Kevin oh I know I want you to get the first scene I was like Stephen he's just incredible and like he's necessary he should be in the game he's a hall-of-famer well you shouldn't have every eyes in the game I I'm convinced Sometimes right like I think coward who I

know how it coward Oh coward oh wow the guy was like oh my coward count coward Wow I'm a coward oh who I've done podcast with I love going back and forth with you called Colin cow but he does do his homework like he watches the games no man he comes up with angles and sometimes his his fatal flaw is he'll take a crazy angle and try to defend it as like coming up I'm gonna tell you Who's white draymond Green is actually the best player in the world you know that's necessary because they're so

like they really don't understand well you know the game that much but like but we also need you guys that that can kind of fight fight those guys and really show the fans what the game is about you know I'm saying yeah I think you took quiet I've been in you took quiet I've been in that situation too quiet well I'm gonna explain so I'm Gonna explain one talking entity because I work cuz I was on that NBA show for two years and we did like 55 shows one season and you get in this mode

where it's like you're on Wednesday you're on Friday you're on Sunday it's like what do we leave the show with on Sunday and you just you gotta kind of lead with something so it's like what's wrong with the Lakers yeah and then it's like alright we'll go around the room and it's just kind of so you know there's no Other way to do it so my own thing was like I I know we're gonna do this I'm gonna try to have a really cool angle or something that I haven't heard before or I'm gonna go

all in on whatever but I know this is part of thing I never really liked it that much I never liked that aspect of it like because it was always like oh there's no right talk about the neg it was always Lakers was always Knicks like I was like can we do the heart and trade again they're like Now we did that last week one more time one more time but you know you gotta fill all these hours and I think that's when you get in trouble with this stuff it was like oh yeah you

have 15 hours a week and that by the twelfth hour you're like all right coming up I'm gonna explain to you why Yanis is gonna leave Milwaukee in two years and then you're like do I know he's all believe it or yeah it's like you're just you're it's almost like a debate in high school yeah Where you're like arguing aside see that's what I'm saying yeah that's when people can adjust I like Stevie Nicks I think that under the pretense that he has to do that I think he does a good job of making it

feels the most Jesse's got to do it every morning imagine if you were in the game like me and you see like these guys just making a mockery of what you [ __ ] been doing no no I understand that I think that the Problem is they limit the content they talk about so there is like they don't because everything is so instantaneous on social media you don't have to talk about LeBron KD and Steph every morning on first take trip and broaden the conversation because we are a bit more educated as sports fans it's

just every morning it's like Kent does Katy have the heart to lead them to the first season Steph out yeah and LeBron went on the road in the playoffs yes no this is Why I like it can go deeper than the three of them you know what I don't I don't like to project him but I seen I guess some what's gonna happen not bad let's just say I say these guys it's like you know you know these guys are going to mental problems you know I'm saying I don't like you projecting that type of

stuff on us you know I'm saying like Oh like they're breaking from the pressure someone did tell me what's one Of the dudes like y'all he katie has it me know when you put the snake sneakers out the other day these two guys these two guys did you see it these two guys on some channel said that they think something might actually be from us somebody says something someone they said that something might actually be wrong with you I am living my best life I go home and play xbox I'm in such a happy mood

I do Like oh I enjoy playing this game and making so much money that I can take care of myself my family I enjoy that and people's like miss something you know you have for such a mental problem but I'm just I'm at the point in my life now where just like you cannot tell me I am mentally [ __ ] up because you just think so that's why I get that's why I get only I can say I just I'm aware of what you're saying do you think these are Samara would work if they

were like If they're on ESPN at like 4:30 these are Samara the guys on Vice by saying they are real I like anybody who's rude I think Dave Chappelle should be the president that would be interesting he's a realist [ __ ] Lord of all - Oh Lord of all he's real I think yeah go look at go follow Lord is always he I know he's real hey we're taking a quick break to talk about Google Cloud it's still March you know what that means Basketball basketball basketball did you know that college players are wearing

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on the how we know they have a long complicated explanation about it see I would have guessed that because PAC told teams are based on the west coast where the Weather is better and it makes people more calm and relaxed and they transfers to the basketball game they should put that in the Google cloud anyway if you want to check out all this stuff for whatever questions you have from basketball to business Google cloud can help you find answers in your data all that data you're sitting on that's how you take down the competition today

tomorrow well into the future only one team a year gets to cut down the net but With Google cloud just imagine all the things you and your team can accomplish know what your data knows see how all you have to do is go to GCO slash March Madness Google cloud the official cloud of the NCAA back to me and Kevin Durant in the mail back Sam from Illinois wants to know how much different deflate the league would be if there were no coaches seriously I learned the game from coaches okay I wonder how the players

ask that question Because there is that game when you guys were all calling the plays when Steve Kerr let you guys come do you know that we worked away from adolescence to teenagers to semi-pros in college to professionals like we worked our way up today ya know that's why they're asking I think if you yeah I'm just saying I don't think a lot of people have realized that growth you know saying we worked our way up into being able to do we are king like everybody's aren't like These guys in the NBA were gurus at

basketball who was the best at diagram in the place um probably dus Wow he is but coach potential down the road if he wants it right yeah he's probably gonna do something else though uh he's the most interesting man that I've ever been around Steve Kerr seem to think there's like ten different possibilities for her foot do us yeah when it's done playing man man you can learn so much from D us just From being around him not even to just about basketball yeah just about life in general you know I'm saying just about history

of anything you know I'm saying I loved the US but he drew up some good plays Andre with dollars you owe us from good play many have a terrible play no no with three and three basketball getting added to the Olympics in 2020 who would be your two guys that comes from Mike Jensen thank you to everybody who sent emails by the way reasons we Love this me curry Irie I'm the biggest Caravan I know we got your uniform ready stop there I'm just saying we got it ready [ __ ] oh I know where

I think you should live to me curry do you want to walk to the garden or do you want to take it uber no will LeBron be in the uber I enjoy living at the Millennium right now um me curry you care it just you to nobody no make hurry in probably broad okay yes you Kyrie Brian so you'd have to you Have to solve some stuff for this is not including any of the Warriors yeah not including the word yeah because you can't pick two of the three yeah baby I will pick my teammates

but you know me carry umbrella beat said JT from Queens wants to know what player is currently an old Depot waiting to happen some whose talent is being suppressed or has not blossomed yet because they're Playing with a superstar you see anybody in the league like that no title tatum couple maybe now Tatum's a baby that's a lot of players that had that that if they had that opportunity only people can have that old Depot had can flourish he also worked on his body in his game now after the season ended he got this trainer

and he got like in crazy shape up there oh the depot had that it I'm already me but he still worked at it though he worked at it but he had I Wouldn't but you preface it by saying if he is playing with a superstar then went on his own he wasn't playing with a superstar in Orlando now but he was with Westbrook for one year I guess the question is is somebody in the wrong situation that if they found the right situation other than everyone on the next oh I don't think anybody could do

that it's hard to be all the Depot all Depot where the island was so long he I like it better Leap five years here he waited his turn I don't think anybody else would believe you do that I remember the guy who did the draft yes I know the guy did the draft on his pin that year was saying old Depot should have been the first pick you know that was it was me it was here yeah who was the first place that year Bennett it was Bennett I was saying to Cleveland just take all

a Depot don't mess around do you think Anthony Bennett Just may be in the wrong situation okay I think he was you should've been like the 10th pick yeah that wasn't his father well that also the league was changing and nobody realized years old first pick yeah he was he was an old school oh you're saying you think the first pick he was like really being the first pick hurt him that's what I worry about with Marvin Bagley like when when you look at these guys sort of the fours now you have to actually think

of them What are they gonna be like gonna play out serious plane yeah that's how you got a look at how could I tell you the game everybody like that dude I'm Villanova bridges that you can be in any playoff team right now they give you the ninth man on 10 where things I love ya like there's certain guys you just know you like Wendell Carter yeah I like one Duke like one no cutter - I thought bad we look good - I like that I think Brunson could be a I could totally see Him

being a fourth guard for a good team like he then a fourth guy smart people play people play three guards all the time there's a lot about our coaching at Louisville but the guards bros you let the Luke's Rose here's the starting point only now I just I there's certain guys you just see him in a plan source register names a year Rozier could be starting morning yes I think you underestimate how many good point guards already know zeros our starting point Guys just like it's warm or coming in low as ears and starting point

guard League I don't pump up his price I know what you're doing point guard though he's he's gonna love getting you the ball they can extend him this summer yes we had to figure out the smart thing I love I like roses game you know cell except I picked this year yeah who they lose pick they have I think we have to like go straight wait no we get we have the Kings pick in a year oh my god any We had the Grizzlies pick I'm protected in like 2021 this was all this stuff rich

didn't tell you when you had your Boston visit he didn't lay out other rich did now I'm rich - yeah it was my parents told us that relax with all that [ __ ] yeah yeah a row Tom Brady they should told you about the [ __ ] packs they did and he made the right decision no he did I we were runners-up no no who is the runners oh okay see are you Just saying that now all right come on you're saying outside of OKC not here come on dear Alan you ready you weren't

leaving for sure you mean over now for sure well you know build state Boston no it wasn't it's time to leave it was but not to know the clay game is a phenomena what if though no would've that's the best what that's the best water for this decade I mean where does turn you have in life right now no but that's a good What alternate universe what if what if but just what if Clayton go craze and game sakes would yeah I think OKC wins the files what if you're born in Montana would you be

doing this podcast Cleveland shades Cleveland trips Kevin Love to the Celtics before for that Jalen Brown pic and something else and they not up I'm told you were crazy I'm just some having fun of my Shawn Jordan wants to know do your basketball skills translate to Other things like beer pong or maybe games we as fans wouldn't expect I'm pretty damn good at before what else hand-eye coordination games you get a Millard's no horrible at ping pong is air how White's you off the court ten times what about what happens I got it seven times

in a row how about Papa Schadt oh yeah Papa Schadt easily but not I mean beer pong I'm pretty good yeah football you're good for water yeah I saw the Football highlights that's pretty good well thanks got a good arm mega Megatron yeah Frazier from Sydney Australia wants to know what's the best signature shoe outside of your own what to Australia what's going on in Australia the wines kicking in a why is he yeah this whisper like we a couple names we whisper is taught to us it's the next whisper yeah like we whisper names

what's the best signature shoe Oh Katie For no other than your own Oh Jordan what if you guys win again win it all again this year Lucas says the media's gonna keep the LeBron to the words things going does this frustrate you and did it annoy you when that rumor started last month no wait man I am living like I said before I am enjoying my life okay what if Luke came home and he was like these [ __ ] warriors was annoying no there was not that was an annoying story no Look can I

can I explain something to you please I play basketball for a living they pay me a lot of money for a supreme skill that I have why the [ __ ] would I be worried about anything you have an amazing life - bill what you talk about sports money to play sports why the [ __ ] would I be worried about anything I enjoy playing xbox I enjoy just going home and going to sleep and watching billions and billions are you listening tired but brick and we have a Podcast nobody can talk watches did you

watch it I watched a little bit but I wasn't really locked in I know what episode your entity I thought you told me last night do you do you value oh I didn't think we were supposed to say anything did he tell you in the podcast no he told me after oh yeah I don't know nobody I think he thought I would tell you with the mics are on but no buts oh okay perfect do you have an axe capital fleece yes I Do he gave you a fleece right did he give you one yeah

I had to trade arrange it rounders and billions he's good now I've been friends with your guns are saying the fact that is true bro I've known him for a long time he loves you man very happy he lists all our poses his dream was to have a show like this that that all these random people loved and that's exactly what happened Nick Gordon says does Lavar discourage potential free agents from sign of the Lakers no I think lavars children's thing outright he's telling me once I love levar Kevin loves the black cause he reminds

me of a normal air you day players don't mind levar no the media is a much more develop are than players are yeah because players are used to live on yeah I've seen dads like him yeah I grew up with I grew up watching people watching dad's like levar and I'm like I appreciate what you bring you know it cuz like I wish that you know I mean you Know amazing fantastic thinks he's getting houki coach the team yeah like me and my dad are so tight right now but yeah growing up my dad really

didn't come to games you know I'm sound like so I wish I had a dad like that a lot of players wish they had dad's like levar yeah just being there support maybe not like you know only ESPN or first you know putting the pressure on like he did look like he did Lanza but it's just like before is the prototypical like Pops yeah and the AAU circuit like we are [ __ ] I like them I like his family every time we play the Lakers not seeing him I give him a big hug I'm

like man like what you doing man I enjoy it I just like your personality I like that you care about the game so much and you care about your son so much that's what I like oh no the the big ball of my own I'm not getting it today but I just like which I think just one thing he did that bothers Me the new quad thing right yeah yeah I'll talk about the coach no don't talk about the coach I think the middle kid what's his name the one who was in you seal and

for a second I think that law I think listen I I don't want to judge anyone else's family or how they make decisions as a fan I'm only speaking as a fan the opportunity to play basketball you feel that even if he messed up and China didn't mess up whatever the case is that was a pretty Good opportunity he's gonna he could regret not playing there and choosing to like yeah what I think you should love him like you should let him play you feel like he should go he should have went through the you

know suspension and the discipline yeah that would have been a good lesson to be a great lesson who is you know I don't care either way that's his son and he'll like what I thought it'd have been cool if he let him go through that and play I Don't know what the second-rate Lithuanian league really does I look like I swear to God with I know he's gonna say you're trash which I feel like I could play in that league in Lithuania you're trash I've been playing solo do you stretch for an actress why so

funny so we would stretch three we're flying back Tom on a plane a few of us one day and I said to them like I said that's it I mean I think I would have went to Carolina if I could my Place was a big issue what was your biggest trade would you add though they send me what would they said no they said why Carolina said I think it fits my system yes I said I think I fit the system and they said what could you add I said interior passing house my answer your

trash I'm not sure Justin Westerner who's the first celebrity to reach out to you and has that relationship blasted KD first Celebrity oh I've had to have been when you're at Texas I'm guessing no no really no celebrities really wish out to me because it was hard to do that but what was the first song you got name dropped in while I may not be in a song oh that's right we're doing it Clinic credit we're doing a an hour like special yeah creating this like our documentary on the history of basketball players getting dropped

in rap songs dating all The way back to little Spencer Haywood in the 70s and like why some players are named in rap songs or why some people aren't and how jay-z like put Sean Bradley to rest in crazy and love and how Nick Van Exel is recognized for being and crazy in love and like it's like LeBron Kevin Melo AI and Steph over the last 10 years have I mentioned in more rap songs and the other NBA player remember ladies have Duncan like seven times like it was his hope that we're Doing this whole

like this whole thing about like why some people get mentioned more than others it's kind of cool but it was a good idea me and Drake or the time yeah is a raster thing so you may you may be playing them in the finals oh maybe maybe he's trying to butter you up like that all right nothing to do with anything though yeah but me I want to say that six card or really tell you these guys funny right bill and Kevin make good podcasts regular person who is Your favorite player in the 2008 draft

what coming up favorite prospect McHale bridges you reminds me of myself how well cuz he's long and athletic and he can guard different positions he can shoot the three like he is he waited for years he just waited his turn our boy Alonzo Trier cause those four years he lost a tree I saw so it's pretty good too and Trey yeah Trey young two in Michael Porter Jr Nick from Canada wants some more things are some work know some More person say Joe days coming I like him please love him yeah I think he's gonna

be a second round steal for somebody I don't even know if he's not gonna top 40 no he's not ranked anywhere but he should be I watched him take it to teams this year cuz you don't they be Villanova and Duke back-to-back yeah I like him know no chill out with the with the stood Johnny's but Molly's you guys Molly's mine we got two more two more Questions this is important Cooper Herrmann shout out to Cooper why I'm 13 years old and I play travelin AAU basketball here in the DC area oh yeah do you

have any advice for how poor my age can get better Oh go play in PG County in the neighborhoods go to see pleasant go to Kettering go to Largo go play in a neighborhood yes well the good players are all right right now it's moms like is there Anything else Bryce you want the video we could download instead no videos nothing just go play in a neighborhood go to Berry Farms go to 58th in southeast and watts to go play there Nick from Canada wants to know if you could choose one city outside of North

America to have the first global expansion team where would it be for argument's sake let's assume travel time is negligible Oh Barcelona man that's a good choice or Bar isn't in Australia Nick from Canada also wants you to know keep being real KD even people who don't cheer for your squad like me respect you see there you go Nick from Canada Nick whiskey from Canada gets it a blog boys how y'all feel Houston Rockets the Houston Rockets before we go homecourt a lot of people say that the Warriors don't think about the Houston Rockets as

much as we should you told you text me that all right not In Texas yes you did I didn't text you that no I didn't text you that i texturize disappointed did you ever get that a lot though yeah I get that a lot like what we don't like wishing should we say it in the media that we are worried about the Rockets like hell yeah or no one team in the West like what the fuck'd way of course but we don't want to talk about it every single day we're just gonna come to work

did you know James is This good in Oklahoma yeah he's good yeah you know what Bosh said on the podcast I did work with him he said in the 2012 finals when they went into it their key was to shut down James you know and give you an rustier 52:55 every night they didn't care they wanted to take him out they took him out they win the series and they couldn't stop with they could stop me yes there's I give you 55 and then he then I was like were you guys happy when they traded

James he was like yeah hell yeah a little broth tweeted it was like man my bro James is gonna have a good time it's gonna do his thing you sent him like he only saying that cause he cuz he knows he knows that you guys were gonna be a problem yes Bosh said Bosh said they're the peak of that team was the 27-game winning streak he said he said that was that he said LeBron was hit a level that he's just never seen and the whole team was like every night they Just stayed in care

if they're down 20 they knew they were gonna win it was interesting here and talked about it and they it took so much out of him there and never really the same after that there's I feel like he's gonna play it seemed like he hadn't really come to grips with that it was ohayo blog boys what up thank you have any last questions for bill I feel like oh you don't get interviewed we hit everything Right no we did asking you I thought we hit everything oh we did I like how you turned it on

me with the Talking Heads yeah I want to know cuz I mean cuz I know there's anything that writers don't like it I know the be writers don't like them yes stuff this the thing that I've gotten better this year and it's almost gotten too far but the people explaining what teams are doing with like what they're trying to do on Offense and showing like how teams run certain actions and play stuff I'm like no no [ __ ] no but they're doing a good job of breaking it down I gotta say I love know

not exactly who I used to work with the gremlin who's reliable he wrote a whole piece about how Toronto knew they had to shoot more threes this year because they just they just they didn't have quite enough spacing and all the little adjustments they made this basically spread the cord out which even Yeah they like even DeRozan cuz that 3-point shooter because he has to yeah yeah but it was just a smart piece it was all basketball a little bit right now yeah let's do it like strategics like yeah let's do it yeah so like

Toronto they flip their system because they knew that a they needed to add like three to four more threes I knew that this was the this they had a lot of pressure on them this year as a coaching staff did you that's The reason why our coaching staff because if they didn't happen this year they get rid of the coaches yeah yeah is that the reason or they just thought they would win that way or is the reason because I thought they were your fire no I think the reason was they could not figure out

how to beat Cleveland and they could not just do what they did last year again because it wasn't gonna work so they had to be scared of LeBron James if you're trying to be Cleveland So here's one of the thing now you got a really challenge of like I like like oh good well that's the thing so I watched that game Wednesday yeah so Toronto basically had control of the East they lost this game to Portland which the rest man yeah the refs that the ref sky the whole thing and they and they blew this

point see that was okay see okay see I'm sorry and they had a streak and they lost the street okay and then they lose that Cleveland game and now it Seems like they lost there all of a sudden the doors now for LeBron a little bit the door was not as open as it was or the doors always been open for him now I know but now if we macho with him well that's what we learned last night that Toronto score 129 points that they lost because at the end of the game of LeBrons like

I'm scoring every time they collude was called like 137 score 100 yeah hundred thirty ten but that was Like everybody who saw this Toronto's year here comes and then LeBron site now it's not you stuff to go through me in the playoffs and again I really like just playing an all-star game and their staff was leading uh leading it leading the team see you impressed by how well run they were yeah yeah do you feel like any of the opponents have jumped up a level that you've played against every point it is like you like

we talked about Portland Stefan love Portland shot Better Minnesota's got better Danny Butler back though yeah of course you need all the players you can in the playoffs man what about Mitchell as a rookie actually having to be a creator and a playoff series cuz Utah's good but all is good regular season you know a semi is one of the best coaches yeah he's in the top 16 and since I better leave yeah I'm with it but he's incredible but in the playoffs Do you remember your first playoffs wears out all night o or 10,000

yeah so you're in there how you couldn't have been like at the peak period at though compared to what the thing was yeah I was 21 I was like what about the adrenaline of it like did you feel like you can get your legs yeah I was 21 if I don't have no legs at 21 then what the [ __ ] was that no yeah yeah it sure has to have a postseason where he learns all his little mitchell mitchell is gonna do Well if he struggled shooting a basketball you cannot judge them off of

them you know who would have been great with Mitchell Gordon Hayward just saying sorry I'm saying of course you would connacher a Celtic question yeah how is that gonna look next year let's just say Kyrie comes back you guys losing a conference final so I'm just making don't hold me to this alright I think we're gonna lose for that I'm just trying to be nice so Let's just go through everything who's our five starting five next year how's the team unfold is smart back that's Jason Brown go to the bench who's your big man is

Baines going what talk to me run me thro catalytics next year so I think the biggest advantage was smart is nobody in the league as money to the summer because the cap guy everybody's salaries and they're not spending it how much you spend look more smart well that's the thing two years Ago you would have signed a crazy contract but this year there's only like 14 77 million I'll do so Marcus Morgan [Laughter] the ringer or the bars to know everything yo yo Steven eh yo Shannon Sharpe with marks market so Lou a.m. signs an

extension 32 million for four years under paid right underpaid but that tells you what the market is for the summer nobody has any money nobody has any money Yeah so that's why I think they get work only PG and bargain pay right yeah DeMarcus well DeMarcus has the Achilles they're like she's getting paid that's a dangerous injury they'll stop it that's a dangerous ensure he's a great come on man don't give it now what you say I agree is great it's a bad basketball jury you're right it is it is about bond donor I'm nervous

about he's bouncing back I hope so you know blog boys is DeMarcus bouncing back so a Hayward and Jalen and I think Jason Tatum's a six man what'd ya say to miss this man yeah I liked it was he wasn't supposed to play 30 minutes this years late 20s 19 years old he's seven is amazing he you just had a funky look I honestly I would not play around with Jason's hate him for one second he should be starting and he should start for the next ten years Brown Let him come off the bench Jason

Statham is a special special player man I just watched him go back to back-to-back possessions Anthony Davis like a star player he said you should be but his rhythm off the bench no they're crap you cannot play with Jason or another way a good team there crunch time will be Heyward Brown trailing Batum Horford and Kyrie I just wouldn't Jason Taylor man I mean he's in the second years 19 I know but when you Start all year and you carry that load to have to go off the bench I would not play around with them

I'm just saying I feel you what about Eastern teams for sleepers like his kin washed and get that [ __ ] together before I like Milwaukee's really yeah how come just because the young athletic yeah yeah he's so good man it feels nice people watch the honest get interviewed they're like that's what old KD was before before he went crazy he is changing That's what that's what we used to love him that was I was MVP Navy Russia back back MVP speech KD yeah I see no hoodie Bella that's MVP speech backpack glasses KD glasses

yeah was thunderstruck KD a KD KD was definitely old k because that whisper was that pre rich oh my god that's me I'm [ __ ] crazy yeah no I was at your MVP speech baby I was there bro no sad noise it's a phone oh I thought I was weird that was the podcast ending are you trying to end it now we Could do this all night no we go alright three parts hello when you keep going who's the next MVP after harden this year Wow who would you put your money on somebody who

hasn't been MVP yet Kathy Davis [ __ ] right yeah his team would have water DeRozan you know MVP is real thing but now nowadays like Awards really don't because the blog boys vote on these awards and they bring on no basketball I think it's better than it Was no because you know why because they published the votes now and you can't [ __ ] around yeah if you exact low knows basketball to me mark Stein knows bad there are people that know basketball so you vote on the although they used to do that it

was so who would vote if it's not black boy obviously the blog boy should vote on MVP but that's like just go watch some games man stop using analytics all the [ __ ] time well I think I would like to think some People are out there doing both though they watch the games and they look at the nose well you think of rappers voted for the MVP who I think Robert wolf a MVP have you think that would be funny if they did there's different factions associated like the issue profane VP so look at

a commission yeah they only averaged a cold Oh block boy JB he's too full for MVP hey do you take like that it take was like nodding vigorously over there do you think they should have Televised the all-star game draft yeah and why because it wouldn't have been the same conversation no yeah it's the all-star game oh I mean I'm just answering it's a fan he's answering as a player I I would assume but what you want to hear I feel like they wouldn't say no I like these there for as long as you care

you oh yeah those with Doughboy he's are doing I thought they'd at least should have Broadcast the first ten picks would have been fun and then after that it could but it wasn't been the same conversation that it was gonna had when the cameras were not the funniest thing was Al Horford was the last pick one of the teams and I mean he hit our efforts [ __ ] good and he's really would you pick up at a street ball game it depends what what my accomplishment is very what I'm trying to do if you're

Trying to win or if I have a bunch of scores and playmakers around and I need like a glue guy who knows what to do it's a great read I think that's a good one to have three months in the same kind of boat you need those guys not everybody gets you all the time all right you're on your phone so we're wrapping this up I'm not on your phone I'm just check my text reading these blog boys what did we not cover rich the blog boys we talked about the black boys I really do

want to run the next one day I'm just being honest is everything rich would really kill it oh yeah we'll go we already heard your next campaign was it a man or watching that's for the TV billions Oh - I'm watching billions I watch in Atlanta no I'm watching I love Atlanta watching uh the two pocket what does video recap about son those are two favorite shows where they're gonna blight huh no cuz it's a Good showed you like TV I'm watching uh I wash it - ah you washed shot I don't want you say

blackberries are drying mirror I watched what the show watch it I'm watching the unsolved with Tupac and Biggie which is pretty cool oh I have all those of my DVRs that were Kuya Gianni Versace I watch over well I mean Annie was a fucked-up way right watch it on A&E right it's sick right through it it's like six or eight Episodes yeah what's the matter I was to obsess through this kind of bill just came on Bali came back last night berries get the bill hader show it's a hit man who obviously comes at a

crush - oh that's great of a Letterman Show with Obama he's got Jay Z coming up next week it's like six yes Clooney i watch the Jerry Seinfeld when he's interviewing all the comedian's it's pretty cool basketball players watched a lot of TV cuz you guys Are trapped all the time yeah let me go to the gym and come home we could we go to gym at eight o'clock in the morning and come home by eleven twelve yeah [ __ ] to do but play video games and watch shows we jealous it drakes fortnight thing

no not a little no yeah like 700,000 people right what yeah where Drake is a legend he should be in a songwriters hall you got him all right now you are let's go drink on the pot you want to sell my day for the pot I'm Grantland drinking Jalen and I did like 35 minutes Drake was actually let's get Drake on this part drink is us a drink he's in Crupp oh my gosh she will love dealing her Drake was good one initiated with Jalen Kevin pot just to see right here where rich is that

I love you rich was Drake you sit right there and she's gonna be running the Knicks we're hold up y'all just kicked me out the podcast we might have but you know mr. Drake rich is gonna be read in the next gun How do I trade this joke evening I would love it routine Celtics I just think I I don't think I could be a lot worse than a lot of these guys that do it who's the worst year balloon no there's a lot of them oh okay the worst team in the league right now

who's still employed mm-hmm you I'll put you in an awkward position if I answer this I don't care Stan Van Gundy stop stop it know that Blake Griffin trade was a trade you make If you're worried you get fired and you do a Hail Mary hoping that if that works you keep your job you show you the words some work yeah he's he's up there I'm not gonna I'm not getting I'm not getting in this cuz be there I'm gonna be a fellow GM and minutes that's true that's why I told you it's gonna be

awkward but yeah Blake gave away a lottery pick and Tobias Harris I've been asked SVG give away a lottery Pick and tub and took on a giant contract with and I'm not sure Blake and Drummond makes any sense at all together didn't bill anybody else around them to say yeah yeah yeah I don't know but hey I appreciate you thank you thanks for answering the question honestly oh no just thank you for having me on yeah bill Sommers is there anything we missed that I'm gonna take [ __ ] for that we missed Um who's

won in the final 400 over at Chicago stop no no so [ __ ] up right now it makes sense they're gonna win this is thing is crazy why you screaming man oh we talked a few football things on air or not I don't give a [ __ ] the Giants cannot trade Odell Beckham in you can't he's it great he's one of the most key I mean this is getting scary though as a giant fence oh you could try to the scares it'd be fine I don't think It can happen yeah he's too good

that's the greatest musical moment is Ray J Martin came to me Stevie's hangover joke Oh Mike Antonia they said would you have who would you take him Julio Antonio around Odell Beckham and you said I know ray Porsche dream on a chest light from Richard Sherman now it's like Julio you just told me in basketball you hate when people compare players yeah in basketball man football football Okay cool yeah it's their lives though so that's what they damn yeah I'm sorry all right well that's what we do is basketball I'm glad we reach common ground

I'm sorry I think who's the old Dale Julio and his third yeah Antonio brah I've gone against all three in important games who you didn't put on my favorite game well mostly I'm with them okay I see when we played Atlanta in the Super Bowl I didn't understand why they didn't Throw it to julio every single time but yeah I guess he can't go every play we found that half play half the possessions Yungas half speed no he's just so big so basically they can't play 60 he said 60 plays right I just relieved every

time they didn't throw on the ball no that makes sense that makes good that no makes sense what you're saying to like watching and feeling yeah I mean he's unstoppable but the Giants can't trade although Beckham They just can't you know where I say here's where I stand with this [ __ ] don't treat somebody who's like one of the best people at their position just ever in that unless like it's a point of no return they're leaving they're out like whatever I just do not like giving up I agree really it's ridiculous all right

wrap it up to a loan any put anything to plug Kady all right black boys calm boys boys calm appreciate [ __ ] go by black boys calm right after We finish this we will be I appreciate you man this is fine this is great thank you as though underplayed how much we have going on a business but this is not for now we're led the podcast with it we talked about it under play-doh we under played it for you well don't worry you did things my magazine covers you're right I'm just saying we under

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