your response has consistently been uh that India is able to walk and chew gum at the same time India's simultaneous active membership in both the quad and the bricks and for that matter the Shanghai cooperation organization CH gum and walk at the same time all right let me ask you uh something you have canvased before you've been asked about previously um that India's simultaneous active engagement of groups like The Quad uh along with groupings like bricks which are seemingly contradictory groupings uh your response has consistently been uh that India is able to walk and true
gum at the same time and of course the the ability to understand uh All Nations and work with all parties is vital uh Australia has missions all over the world including places like Moscow and tan of course so my my impression uh Minister has been that India sees value and being in all these groupings but doesn't always necessarily see them as equal how how how do you as foreign minister uh and how does India navigate uh these these different relationships to still ensure that countries around the world see India um as uh a large nation
that prioritizes the protection of international rules um you know uh again uh we history uh political culture um to some extent a kind of a security thoughts all these feed into uh decisions you make uh in the case of Australia uh I mean you have uh a long uh you know uh very old treaty relationship with the United States uh which is your primary uh security I mean it's the anchor relationship ship in a way uh that's not been our history uh our history has been really to kind of maximize space and options and gain
more maneuvering ground and uh try and do more things uh you know autonomously uh so that's where we are coming from now uh given that uh it's natural today uh when actually the world is uh much more uh fragmented uh when in in one sense clearly much more multipolar uh much more complicated uh that you know it's uh it's not um it's not uh uh easy to say today okay you know these countries are on that side and those countries are on that side there's a lot of cross Holdings uh in a way uh and
uh given all that uh we do think that uh uh the the uh ability uh uh to uh to in fact not just the ability the strategy uh to be uh to have you know a presence in different groupings and develop working combinations with different countries because each one of them has a logic of its own you know and and I would not uh I would not set uh one uh against the other I mean to us we really honestly and you know I'm I'm not being uh clever here in my argument we honestly don't
think being members of bricks uh excludes you from being members of quad because to us they serve very different uh purposes I mean quad has a certain indopacific context uh again the manner in which it grew the uh the building blocks of quad uh were very different uh in the case of bricks it was really a coming together of some large countries who whose common uh feature in many ways was that they were non-western uh so by joining quad now I don't become Western I mean I still remain non-western I'm not anti-western but I'm not
Western so uh so I I think uh in fact uh in many ways I would argue that this uh uh multiplicity of memberships uh and being able to navigate them uh are are natural I would even go a step further and say uh actually there's a service we can do by this you know at a at a time when uh you know the world is very polarized and countries often don't communicate with each other uh uh I I look at the world today uh and let's take the two big conflicts which are underway Ukraine and
uh the Middle East there are not too many countries and too many leaders who can go to Moscow and go to Kev and go to ter and go to uh to T Aviv
