senator Paul you know I think the discussion over vaccines is so oversimplified and dumb down that we never really get to real truths and it's why people up here are so separated from real people at home so we talk about Hepatitis B it's a terrible disease it could lead to liver failures the chairman said but the reason you have distrust from people at home and why they don't believe anything you say and they don't believe government at all is you're telling your my kid to take a hepatitis B vaccine when he's one day old you
get it through drug use and sexually transmitted that's how you get Hepatitis B but you're telling me my kid has to take it at one day old you're not that's not science and so every person with a bit of Common Sense even people who don't resist vaccines I vaccinated all my kids I believe vaccines are one of the modern Miracles beyond all pale the speckled monsters is a great book about the introduction of the smallpox vaccine in 1720 into our country all miracles but I'm not a one size fits all it's not all or nothing
I chose to wait on my hepatitis B vaccine and we did it when they went to school does that make me an awful person does that make me an antivaxer because I questioned the government dictate of whether I do it and I'm not speaking for anybody else I'm only speaking for myself but for goodness sakes let's have an honest debate about these things the covid vaccine if you ask me my opinion there reporters run up and down the soil and they say you still antivaccine no I'm Pro vaccine but on the covid vaccine and on
the covid illness there was a thousandfold or more difference between the elderly and children if you don't acknowledge that you're committing malpractices you're showing your ignorance if you say a six-month-old must be mandated to get it the science is not there so all this blather about the science says this and the science say that no it doesn't the science actually shows that no healthy child in America died from covid look it up no healthy child died from covid and so the thing is is that it's a thousand full greater so if you ask me my
advice as a physician if you were 65 or older or overweight and some other conditions I would have said hell yes I'd take the covid vaccine the risks of the disease were real and much greater than the vaccine but if you ask me should my healthy six-month old get it see these are the nuances you're unwilling to talk about because there's such a belief in submission submit to the government do what you're told there is no discussion there ought to be a debate you're not going to let him have the debate because you're just going
to criticize and say it is this and admit to it or we're not going to appoint you but it's more complicated than that and this is why people distrust government because you're unwilling to have these conversations and I go home ask your Democrat young mothers your Republican young mothers if they're vaccinating their kid for Hepatitis B and they're like well do I have to do it on day one is this precious little baby is there signs to say you shouldn't do it probably not but it's my kid you know it's like I there isn't clear-cut
science saying not to but on autism there's no good good science of anything to show what causes autism we don't know it's a profound disease I know many moms here and dads who have kids with autism I know them personally I've met their kids but the thing is is they saw their kids developing completely normal maybe speaking a hundred words go to no words at about 15 months of age now there isn't proof there isn't proof that the vaccinees cause it that that's true there isn't proof that it caus it but we don't know what
causes it yet so shouldn't we be at least open-minded we take 72 vaccines could it be I don't know but we shouldn't just close the door and say we're no longer because we believe so much in submission we're not going to have an open mind to study these things and so it it's sort of this crazy notion schizophrenia I would put in the same notion you have a kid who's completely normal to 18 or9 and their brain goes HeyWire how does that happen it's the most bizarre disease shouldn't we be open could it be our
food might be vaccines it might be our food but autism is more common I don't know about the schizophrenia statistics but autism is more common shouldn't we want to be open-minded instead we're so closed-minded and we're so consensus-driven that the science says this well science doesn't say anything science is a dispute and 10 years from now we could all be wrong we were told in the beginning 20 years ago they did this enormous study and they said everybody over 50 should take an aspirin I thought well that's a pretty good idea it makes sense but
you know what 20 years later they measured it and they found if you had no heart disease and you were taking aspa your chance of dying from from a brain bleed or from a stomach bleed were greater than the risk of heart disease if you have heart disease they still say take an aspirin if you don't they've changed their mind 20 years later but would you have all said I was crazy and I should no longer be in public discourse if I had said 20 years ago I don't feel like taking an aspirin I'm I
ride my bike all the time I'm afraid I might hit my head but that's what country is about what descent is about so just ask you to look at the larger picture and give the guy a break who says I just want to follow the science where it leads without presupposition I think really what we have up here is presupposition you've already concluded it's absolute that autism isn't caused by it we don't know what causes autism so we should be more humble in what we say sorry I didn't get to a question for the record
for the record if a child is born to a hepatitis B mother that child may have a 95% chance of becoming a chronic carrier but if and we vaccinate those people and nobody's against that but if that's a very small percentage in a redring that is not what we're talking about 99.9% of kids don't have a hepatitis B mom and could they wait a while could they get vaccinated three months or a year yes so again for the record if the mother's Hepatitis B status is known then that can be delayed the problem is often
times or at least a significant percentage of the time the mother's status is not known if she's Hepatitis B positive a vaccine on day one one of Life prevents chronic Hepatitis B 95% of the time so it really depends upon the mother's the knowledge of the mother's Hepatitis B status and when they used to do just okay we know the mother's status or not there's mothers that snuck through their status was unknown we can blame the obes uh but uh yeah Marshall but but for the record there is an absolute rationale for that but you're
right if the mother's status is definitively known that it can be safely delivered so uh now Senator Murray
