He is what they call a professional world-renowned shitcoin expert Morts Neil so he posted a video driving a Ferrar in Dubai and you're posting your salana and it was like I don't know how much did you make of that trade I think this one was like 35,000 but I only put like 2,000 in so it's like a 15x $2 ,000 to $35,000 in 45 minutes like money is not real some people call it luck is it luck I'm still in high school wow high School with $100,000 you made your first million dollars at 17 you
made like connections with billionaires when you were kid and you start managing money for them or hedge fund what if somebody wanted to find let's say they invest in all these and they want to know how do they find the next best coin to invest them what's a day in your life like I had the the whole 3-hour morning routine why do all this you're a young kid you're in school couldn't you just Go to school relax yeah I think um good afternoon and thank you for returning back to the channel the podcast where we
discuss business self-improvement and happiness and today we're going to dive into those three but one topic as well which I'm very interested in today we have Moritz if you guys don't know Moritz Neo if you guys don't know who he is he is what they call a professional world-renowned shitcoin Expert I'm just messing with you guys but that's who you are to a lot of like that's basically one way of your of who you are one way of describing who you are the first time I met morit was very interesting we were at a at
dinner last year in Dubai obviously and we were at this big table it was like a mastermind and there was you know Luke Belmore Jordan Welsh members of the owners of massive crypto companies can't say who Arab like A lot of people and I was thinking I was like who is this 17-year-old kid you know that's sitting opposite me like who let this kid in here and I'm usually the youngest person in these kind of functions well I say that now but like I think it's been a long time since I've been the youngest I'm
22 but there was a 17-year-old kid who was like basically an expert when it came to investing in meme coins and investing in crypto in general but Especially in meme coins and the other day I so you posted a video driving a Ferrari in Dubai and you're posting your salana a salana uh like a screenshot of how much salana you made of one trade and it was like I don't know how much did you make up that trade I think this one was like 35,000 but I only put like 2,000 in so it's like a
15x in likees ,000 to $35,000 in 45 minutes like money is not real so it's insane what you can do if you know what you're doing in Crypto some people call it luck today we're going to find out from the man himself is it luck what's his process how does he find these coins he's been documenting his whole journey on Twitter and Instagram from when he was very young he has a very interesting story he's about to get into Harvard by the way guys this kid is interesting he's very interesting manage billionaires money at a
young age we're going to get into it morit nice to meet You pleasure to meet you thank you so much for coming on of course of course it's a pleasure to have you here welcome to Dubai real quick I would like you to introduce yourself and talk a bit about your story growing up I've given you a little bit of intruction correct me if I'm wrong about anything but yeah take it away yeah so maitz online is MZ Neo um I was born in South Africa um in a very early age I got lucky enough
to to get into crypto so at the age of 12 um I Bought my first you know little piece of Bitcoin on a whole Bitcoin at that time um but originally how I got into it funny enough I was I watched The Wolf of Wall Street and I was like damn this is cool like at that point like I really just I was like the first Spark to make money I like the the fast cars the the pretty girls you all the degeneracy aside um and then I thought you know these people do stocks I
was like okay that's what I want to do rich people do Stocks so that's kind of what I believe in know what it meant I'm a 12-year-old kid um but then very quickly I realized that I couldn't sign up for any trading platforms under 18 and especially in South Africa it was very difficult and that's when I first stumbled upon crypto because crypto I didn't need to put in my name I didn't need to put in anything but I could freely just go on the internet and start you know playing around with these things um
so that's When I first got into cryptos because I couldn't get into trading originally and then I B bought my first little piece of of crypto in 2019 um but I realized I needed some cash flow because I had I had like $100 that had been saved up from selling suits and you know doing the normal things as a kid um so I needed some cash FL and then I uh discovered Drop Shipping um this was in 2019 I was watching you know Beazer old Alex Becker and I was kind of learning Everything you know
from the internet um so at the age of at the age of 12 almost 13 now I started my first store uh and I was doing tiny numbers like for think it wasn't 12-year-old Drop Shipping million I was doing a couple hundred dollars um I was selling this Fitness product these six-pack AB simulators and I would pay these meme pages to basically show this ad that I filmed uh and that was you know how I made my first ever money really online was was from Ecom but very Quickly ran dry I tried to do paid
ads I don't know what the hell I was doing I was a little kid so very quickly I you know blew that money but i' still saved up a couple hundred um that I then used um to get into crypto and so in in 2020 U my conviction really grew into crypto I didn't agree kind of how the government uh was treating things and I really saw was like crypto was the solution I saw you know they were printing a bunch of money and I thought You know decentralization is only become more and more popular
and this was the last cycle so around March 2020 I you know kind of deployed very well timed um you know the the little money had saved up into crypto um and first I bought some Bitcoin and then I start thinking like you know have such little money like even if this goes crazy I okay maybe Bitcoin goes to 50K and was around 10K at this time like 5x that's really good but then you know I turn my $800 Into $4,000 like that's not life-changing um so I'm discovered ethereum like even then you already had
a you know couple billion market cap like you know this is going to make me Rich um so I was looking into some projects and I'd found vitalic butterin the the owner of ethereum and he was talking about the importance of layer two solutions which is basically protocols built on ethereum um and then I found polygon Matic um which at the Time was was under a 50 million market cap um and I went basically all in on this project um not only bought some but I was you know trying to you know network with the
team and things like that to try work with them um and you know at this time you know polygon was was massively undervalued and it was one of the top three performers of the psycho only B&B and and one other coin perform better so you know the I wrote that up I Sold some too early sold you know some too late um but that time I was you know 15 by the end of the cycle and I was sitting on a good six figures at the time you know I'm still in high school and wow
high school with $100,000 yeah yeah at the time what age uh I was 15 uh 15 16 you made your first million dollars at 17 17 um but yeah so that's how I originally got s into to crypto and and polygon was like my first you know breakthrough play I've had better Plays um since then um but last cycle that was like my big thing um and then you know the the bare Market came and i' literally sold so close to the top I was in an Uber um on my way to my friend's house
and my Uber driver started telling me I'm quitting Uber I'm I'm buying sh Eno I'm going to be a millionaire and just before I'd read when the shine and starts giving you stock tips that's when you know the market's at its top and I'd be reading a book A Week for years and That passage just kind of played in my head um so very quickly I ordered the same guy back to my house I went to my PC and I exited like 80% of my positions and at this time Bitcoin was at 65k and literally
within like two weeks the market came crumbling down um but I had a lot of my money stored on blockfi which was uh they lent a bunch of money to FDX and went bankrupt so even though I had predicted things right you know where I was holding my crypto went bankr CED so I woke up one morning and I couldn't access my money like it's still on your screen like I'm I'm seeing that this money was like $250,000 um and but I couldn't do anything with it it was it was fake money oh my God
just numbers on the screen yeah just numbers on the screen completely so I I'd lost everything I was like damn I work so hard for this and then I lost it all and I was like damn I'm really like starting from Scratch now and that's when I really started with the person brand um I ran an agency to get cash flow again cuz I wanted to buy in the bare Market um that's kind of the the brief summary of the the first couple years nice amazing yeah and you I guess at 17 then you made
your first million but before that I want to talk about where when did the billionaire story com me I heard like just recently you from your from your boy here he was like you got you made Like connections with billionaires when you were a kid and you started managing money for them or some hedge fun yeah cuz um i' I've been like telling a lot of people in Cape Town about like crypto and stuff like that like before came up so when it started blowing up and I was showing them some of my plays I
was taking I built a bit of a a rep with lot of these trafi guys these smart money people and I was interning at this hedge fund in Cape Town um so every day after School um this was kind of in the bare market so I was around 16 so i' would have school every morning from 7:30 to 3:00 and then I would just ride my bicycle to this this hedge fund and then I would be there from like 3:00 to 6:00 sitting in on basically all these very intelligent um you know traditional people um
that understood the you know the traditional markets I would sit there as a as a 16-year-old and teach them about blockchain about crypto so These guys you no bonds they no stocks but crypto was my thing so I was sitting on these board meetings uh and they're talking and because it was Emerging Markets fund which is basically they invest in South Africa Brazil Egypt um crypto forms ofri yeah so crypto forms a big part in these developing countries so I sitting I basically teach these these people about um about crypto about blockchain um and very
quickly the the owner of the fund took quite a liking to Me because I was I was very hardworking I was very young he knew I was I was bright um and then he put in a very good word with me from this this billionaire in in in London uh and he was like you need have a chat this kid these two this guy in London also owns a hedge fund so these two hedge fund guys he was like you know you need to talk to this kid meritz and then I had a call scheduled
with him uh and then he never showed off I'm like fair enough what is this Billionaire going to talk to a 16-year-old um but then a couple months later um I read uh he bought out um FTX like um his company um bought out blockchain.com from from FTX when they went bankrupt I'm like wait this is crazy like wait I S this guy's email from the zoom invite so I'm like damn how do I need to get his attention and it goes back to the Wolf of Wall Street in his job interview he gave a
stock tip so I'm like and he get attention so I Sent him this coin at the time was bit tenser tow which like still one of my favorite AI coins I'm like hey take a look at this and I just sent the ticket with a winky face again he didn't reply fair enough um but very quickly this coin ran like 56x and I replied to my own email saying hope you got in winky face they very arrogant this is villaire I'm this little kid from South Africa W uh but you're already providing value yeah yeah
completely and then I I don't Think he ever bought it but he he saw and when I replied to it I think he checked the chart and he was like time stamp okay he sent this on in April now it's a damn okay um and then I had a zoom call with him and it was meant to just be 15 minutes just to say hello and his assistant comes in we're talking and then he tells assistant no cancel calls I want to speak to this kid so we end up talking for an hour and he
tells me if you're ever in London like come P i' i' Love to have you by the offices I'm like yeah yeah I'll be in London next week I was never planning on going to London but I jumped at the opportunity I booked the this tiny Airbnb close to to the offices um and I went there and I worked there for a little bit and I um very much impressed them I was always the first one there um you know office is open at 8:00 I'm there 7:30 already working the guys come in and they
leave you know 5 6:00 to go home and I'm still There so then okay this kid was here before I came in and now he's still there and I'm working for free I actually paid two work there to get flights to get everything and I was just trying to absorb as much information as possible and connect um to these people and they ran a massive fund and they have a lot of lot of fingers in crypto so that was kind of uh like open a new world for me instead of no now I'm just investing
and doing marketing for these Projects but this really like led the you know the trafi the VC the smart money that I now I had access to um through that um so built a bunch of valuable connections um you know still to the stay is a mentor um of mine so I'm I'm I'm happy about that and I think yeah jumping out opportunities mention the names of these I I'd rather not they stay they stay very they stay very private fair enough I want to ask You why like why why do all this you're a
young kid you're in school why did you start trying to make money with eom why couldn't you just go to school relax and obviously I'm not I'm playing Devil's Advocate I did the same thing but why what was your why yeah I think um it's it's a deeper question than like a lot of people see the what's presented you know the the fast cars all these crazy pnls traveling meeting these cool People but it's it's a lot of sacrifices as well like I remember as a young kid I mean literally from like 12 to 17
like I was completely locked in I didn't go to any of the parties you know my friends like go play football like no no no I've got to do this and this today so like I I I did have to sacrifice um a lot for it like it isn't all it's not just only an upside everything has a downside so I to give up a lot for it but my why is simply just to to live the best possible Life I know for the lifestyle that I want to do and the things I want to
do I need money and I quite enjoy the game like as a kid like selling sweets and stuff is kind of scaled up to to now what I'm doing now it's like you know I'm I'm trading and investing with you know with seven Figures it's like it's this continuation and I love the progression of it like I love that feeling I think that's I used to play a lot of games as a kid and like I love That feeling of leveling up the character getting better you know unlocking new things and for me it's become
like the same thing in real life like really feels like I'm I'm playing GTA like in real life I'm like in this young guy I can go wherever I can you know rent a nice car I can you know stay at a nice place and meeting all these cool people that I used to like you know only only see online um so it's I think my why is just living the the best Possible life I think a better question is why not like why would you not go for it why would you not take the
risk why would you not go all in on something because you know I think living an average life is is the worst possible existence so for me it was always like why not you know you have this one life make the complete most of it yeah fair enough makes sense to be fair all right real quick there's a lot of people that are tuning in this video and they could Be like 30y old and they're tuning in this video and we want to give them some value like how you gave that stock how you gave
that hedge fun guy could you tell us let's say three or five projects to go on now you can keep some Blue Chip some very legent you can you can say like you can say listen I these the legion ones it's up to you it's at your own risk you to completely zero and then just ones that you're thing you're Looking at right obviously and you you don't make 100% of the trades you make you don't make money on 100% of the trades you make and then I want to know how do you find these
projects so what's the solution like what's if somebody wanted to find let's say they invest in all these but they don't have access to another one of your podcasts and they want to know how do they find the next best coin to invest in and then also last question tell us what's the Craziest return you made on one coin in terms of safer players my my favorite two coins the ones that hold most of is still bit tens to tow which is basically like the Bitcoin of AI coins it has that symbol T AO so
the same coin I recommend to that kind I've been in since since $50 and now it's around 600 um but uh it's still my my biggest investment by far because a you need to look at narrative I'll talk about why you need to look at these coins as well a is Narrative AI coins I think are going to go absolutely crazy you have you know Nvidia over two trillion valuation you have all this hype you know the same plays over into AI coins so and then you look at the tokenomics and bit a what does
to do so T Tower is basically like a decentralized learning platform so why I stumbled upon this project originally was is that I was on chat gbt and they we talk about this is also my my greatest ever uh return one of them like I went in very heavily with this but I was on chat gbt and I was like write a poem about um Joe Biden oh Joe Biden you're so old and wise write a poem about Donald Trump hey we know we can't talk about politically sensitive figures I'm like okay so these information
models which are how the masses get access to information are completely warped like they can't write a poem about Andrew Tate but they can write one about grea thumberg like okay this is Completely War people don't want this biased information that's an interesting guy and when and then bent tow is basically a decentralized AI model so it's chained with data onchain so you can see like transparently what information it's being fed because Google is feeding these AI information you don't know what it's feeding it Microsoft is feeding chat gbt information you know what it's feeding
it and this biased information creates These biased outputs that's why I have these very you know leftist AIS when you ask it to generated picture of the founding fathers it's like LGBT women and like you Rand it's not historically accurate at all um so basically it's trained decentralized and onchain so that it's transparent the information it's being fed and there's no single point of failure if Google's you know Cloud computers shut down the thing doesn't work but it's bit tensor it's Trained off everyone's computer so if you want to mine the network you basically give
up computing power from your PC so your PC right now at home is doing nothing 98% of of PCS at all time are not working so you basically you get paid in to to rent out your computer so say now that's what all the projects do no a lot of them but it it depends on I mean you have render and you have like a bunch of these different AI projects but What makes for me Bens so attractive is the tokenomics so it has 21 million bet Bens is to it's it's a tao is the
the takeable B is the name of the project um but basically what makes it so so attractive for me is that you have the same tokenomics as Bitcoin you have 21 million Max Supply a lot of these AI coins are very inflationary they just keep adding more tokens um sorry what does this what does AI have to do with benser B that is like what the project Does so every cryptocoin has its own purpose so coin is very different to eth and Tower is basically the coin for bit tensor which is this AI program so
salana every coin has something different and the coin is basically like what fuels the ecosystem like salana the the coin is what you use to trade on the salana network which you can use to buy the mem coins whatever is and it's the same in bet tenses but I want to know just where artificial intelligence plays Into it yeah so basically what it's it's decentralized computing power so say I have this AI model that I want to train so I want to train my own chat GPT that specifically is good at creating content ideas whatever
it is instead of buying a a superc computer like Google does they have these massive you know warehouses with thousands of computers I can just rent out you know your and your and your computer and pay you in tow and then they get access to your computer and I Train my model using your computer so I'm renting out a bunch of different Computing space instead of using one centralized server where you then have to buy some super computer CU and there also there's not enough gpus and it's the most in demand resource in the world
is computing power that's why Nvidia is at you know plus 2 trillion um whereas you know gold and things like this also Val but computing power right now is is the most Inon thing everyone wants it And majority of it is not utilized my computer right now is sitting at home doing nothing so basically it fixes that solution in terms of such a scarce resource like um computing power um another project I really like is avax Avalanche um I think for crypto gaming also narrative based um has some of the biggest influences on board with
it and it's basically what all the games are being built on so like you know in the gold where I sell the shovels you have All these different games being built on you can make crazy returns like investing in these single games like ax Infinity last run I made a lot of money off so ax Infinity is on a on a x infinity is on is on eth but um there's a lot of games now being built it's it's become like the the breeding hub for these games so instead of investing in the singular games
where you have high risk it might get players and might not rather invest in the Underlying ecosystem that's that's fueling everything and that's mean a thesis a lot of time like where you want to just invest in in the underlying asset instead of speculating on the on these smaller coins and game fight is very interesting because you know previously people used to play games and earn these in-game currency which would be completely M but now you can get this in-game currency and actually make a living by playing games you know that's Why I feel like
that's super interesting I think even GTA there's rumors that the coin that you're going to use in GTA is going to be a real cryptocurrency yeah I think things like that are super cool because not only you have a financial reward to it um like you know I called this guy in the Philippines my my friend and he was just earning like $70 an hour playing ax infinity and he's like that's a ridiculous amount of money so these whole Villages playing these these play To earn games um but I think it goes a level deep
in that it's also ownership say your fortnite skin you pay for your fortnite skin you know you can get banned you can get a bunch of things and you lose access to that whereas if you actually own it as as an nft and it doesn't need to be this complicated nft things it'll be so seamless like internet technology is now like it's still so in the early days it won't have to be this nft have to register it Probably just be on your gallery on your G you won't even know that it's an ft but
you'll be able to to sell it I mean similar to like csgo Skins are kind of already like that in the sense that you know you can sell them and you have these Marketplace and it'll be built in through the game and so you actually get you know rewarded and even if you never trade it back to to its own currency you can have in game where like you know say you sell your skin and now you can buy This other skin whereas in fortnite you know you can't scale your SK you you've bought the
skin you've paid real money to them and now you know you can't do anything with it much Marketplace and you can trade it for new things or you can even swap it from you know say epic games owns this other game that you have this whole ecosystem and it becomes like a a Marketplace of itself yes interesting okay all very interesting stuff I like what you said about the I Mean it's a very common phrase in the gold rush CU everybody wants to M gold but the real money is in the selling shovels wouldn't wouldn't
you say that for example binance um or BNB would be a good token because of that because they're the honestly that's one thing which scares people a bit about crypto is that a lot of like the number one place really to buy crypto is binance and they're it's becoming almost a Monopoly where they dominate the industry so much is that something you think about yeah I think the original if you read the original white paper from Satoshi his vision for Bitcoin is not at all what it's become it's become less it was made to be
like a peer-to-peer that's I mean it was that's what it's called a peer-to-peer like transaction network but it's not like that at all it's become more of like a a digital value go Digital gold is is more than it is like people don't pay each other in Bitcoin very often it's become more of a hedge against inflation a store of wealth um so I don't think his his original vision of of decentralization is true at all because you have a few mining places you know these places in like Mongolia these massive yeah Kazakhstan Mongolia these
massive fact with cheap energy that have you know they control like you know a good amount of the network nothing too Crazy but a few Central players control the network I mean Michael sailor owns 2% of Bitcoin I mean he's running it like a meme coin that's a ridiculous amount for any one entity to hold if they dump like it would it would wreck the chart same with these players like binance they control so much not necessarily Bitcoin but the I mean it's what it's at two two trillion now so that's 400 billion basically I
mean his assets and and things like that but um Yeah so it's I mean it's it's a ridiculous amount that these few entities hold um and also the the mining is not decentralized at all there's a few key players I think the the top 10 control 50% of the network which is like insane and you have these these gigafactories and if they get you know they get raided they get shut down you know the network takes a real hit um so it isn't as decentralized as people think and even Things like ethereum like you know
there's a face behind ethereum balic bu that's a person we saw what happen to ton when pav durov you know the the price of these coins you know tanked but that's why I think Bitcoin is is still the the safest and the biggest by far is because there is no entity behind it if italic butterin dies ethereum is going to tank at least 50% just of the news and they can put some new in place and can try fix some things but you know we Saw when pav went to jail what happened to ton so
Bitcoin there is no single entity behind it and Satoshi either has to be dead or he has to be a billionaire because he has 50 billion in tokens that he's never touched the amount of discipline and stoicism that it takes to have access to 50 billion liquid that he could sell and and disappear forever as those tokens have still never been moved so you have to be either the most stoic person ever he died 10 years ago before The Bitcoins were worth anything or he's a billionaire himself and I think it's either one of those
things I wouldn't be surprised if one of the known Tech entrepreneurs that we know is you know Satoshi at the same time I have a conspiracy theory that it might be Elon Musk um there there's a few signs at it um and he also started the X which was also you know PayPal he started the first you know centralized payment exchange and then he got Bor down there A bunch of things went down there and then very quickly after and then Bitcoin was was started and he has learned the same coding language that Bitcoin is
built on so there there's a bunch of uh bunch of little conspiracy theories like that I don't think he'll be promoting do so much maybe maybe but also he was one of the only people that would need the money you know what extra 50 billion to him yeah um but uh yeah so overall I think Bitcoin is is by far the you know If you just want exposure just touch Bitcoin I wouldn't even touch eth um if you want to go like you know 10 years down the line I think eth will do better this
cycle you not think at some point there'll be a like I don't know I just feel like okay as digital go but you know the with Bitcoin I just feel like it's old it's outdated it's old it's outdated it's so useless but it it's terrible to use if you ever try like you actually actively using Bitcoin It's a bit of a nightmare but it isn't there's already a million better coins with better Tech and out of the the 17 18 cycle out of the top 100 coins there's only like five that remain besides Bitcoin eath
so you're really like finding a needle and a h stack and I think by the end of this cycle there'll be you know even the ones that are top coins now salana in 10 years time might not be the coin right now it has it's good Tech it's fast but There'll always be coins that get better Tech um and the problem is that it's very difficult to update the network you know when a new Instagram comes out you know people can switch over and Instagram can update to fix things but with these cryptos they're not
you know able to to be as you especially with Bitcoin yeah exactly um but it doesn't matter about e update took like what like two years but uh the the value of Bitcoin isn't um purely in its Tech it's Because it's the first mover um and you know there there's plenty of things that have more use cases than gold but it's just agreed upon that gold like why is gold so valuable but I mean they use it for a lot of things great conductor electricity so if you see any headphone jacket no but there there's
better things I mean that's not where the value of gold comes in the value of gold comes in because it's scarce and it's unanimously agreed upon that its value It's the same with Bitcoin extr has some utility uh like there's not a single woman that not a single wealthy woman that doesn't wear a bunch of gold even men wear but that's because it's agreed upon that it's scar yes you know it's the same with you know there's actual inherent value like the characteristic of gold yeah okay it's it's malleable it's it's shiny and things like
that but it it has value because we agree upon that it has value it's not some magical Magical you know currency and it's sitting in Bank fold it's not being used yeah but I mean at worst case like you can't hold your Bitcoin and flex it the way you can hold a gold chain and flex it you know but it's the same way you can't hold your Instagram profile but people would rather have the blue tick on Instagram you know have good followers everything is being you can see that publicly but I mean like no
same with your wallet you really wanted To if you wanted to but I feel like that's not the it's not the culture to and by the way I'm just playing devil out I'm bigie of course but I'm just for the for the viewers and personally like I like Bitcoin obviously don't get me wrong but it's not my favorite but that's just because purely I'm more when I go into crypto I want to be more risky for me too I don't hold much much Bitcoin it's my my sense of risk has become so skewed that Bitcoin
is too Safe for me I mean for majority of people it's like this but making you know 50% in a bull run maybe from now like is% even sounds small yeah so to me especially now that I've I've gone so Degen in these gambling coins I mean but I think forever like mem coins destroy your sense of money like you I have you days where I'm up like over $100,000 in in in minutes and like in people work years for this and good honest hardworking people will work years for This like the sense of like
money becomes so skewed that it becomes like it becomes like a a game really like it doesn't feel real what's the most you made of Co one coin probably around 300,000 uh dollars um but I I rather take profits early than let like you know let it run to you know one thing that M me is no one's ever gone broke from takings and you know I think that's that's a massive people make mistake m coins I see people Go up 10x and still lose money somehow do millionaire yeah exactly those type stuff I mean
take take Al he's probably made the right decision by now yeah maybe it's not it's not back where it was but it will be um but I think yeah yeah yeah and the taking profits incrementally is is the best way to do it you know sell 20% and 50% gains like ladder out your Investments don't be all in then all out like slowly decrease your risk and same as the bo Run continues like in the next couple weeks I'm just going to start cashing out you know 5% a month over the next couple times so
by the end of the ban coms I have you know a couple hundred thousand or a million sitting in cash because you don't want to be left holding the holding the bag you know it always happens to me bro the bull end and I'm still holding all the coins yeah you don't be in the club you know after the lights turn on and part is over you Don't be the last one on the da floor so you know get out and uh at some point it's so much money that it becomes like say I earn
another 10 20% it's not worth the 80% downside and you know sell out incrementally take profits so you're taking profits from next from next I think q1 2024 is is when the market top will come I think will come sooner because this is the first cycle ever that almost everyone in crypto has been in a cycle before last cycle was a lot Of people's first cycle some of them were in the 17 18 but this is the first cycle where everyone in crypto basically has been in before they've all felt what it feels like to
lose 80% and humans are more scared of pain than they are of potential pleasure you think so the greed is not you think the I I think people people have learned their lesson I think a lot of people got hurt really badly by the last cycle so they don't care to earn an extra 10 20% to risk an 80% downside because they felt what that feels like before there's no longer this we're going up forever we're going up forever narrative because that was the narrative last time and everyone got wrecked so I think proper taking
will happen earlier um so you don't think they say one year after the after the half which would be April you don't think it's going to reach until April I think the top will come end of q1 so around March April May maybe and uh that That's how I'm how I'm betting but you know depending on how things play out it's also a bit of a different cycle cuzz now you have the institutional players you have black rock and these type of people but there's a whole narrative that you know law cycle was that okay
smart money is coming in smart money is coming in you know we're early retail is never early I mean these guys have been talking to these these hedge fund guys you know they've been trading Bitcoin at the Goldman sax trading de since 2013 you even if it wasn't under the company's name these guys have been exposed with their own money even in funds they've been exposed for years there's not the housewives are not getting in some institutional you know they're not beating out some revolutionary Tech these guys one of the things I learned from working
at these hedge funds like people have no idea how deep it goes they scrutinize every Single detail yeah I mean they have yeah yeah of course they have like 50 people phds looking into companies looking into Investments I mean they find every small detail because those little edges are what how they make their money and when you're throwing billions into something these one 2% differences make a big big difference so you know they're not early the retail people these people sitting on Tik Tok are not getting into these coins before these spart money players Are
but what I found really interesting the last couple months has been the shift away from from Bitcoin and these institutional people are getting into the mem coins you know that is the one thing I feel like retail was earlier with and I'm more in Tapped with because it's a sense of culture and you can't dictate culture with money so you have all these big memes that coming on Tik Tok like chill guys is a great example that that's the one place that retail People are beating out these hedge fund people in meme coins because they're
sitting on Tik Tok they're seeing the chill guy meme and you know they're like okay there's a coin about this okay and it's going up so then you throw it in there and it goes to 800 million market cap and I know retail people that aren't even in crypto ayin hedi it's memes it's culture it's like a movement and you can't pay for any Movements movements can't be bought you know you see all the the biggest you know culture shifts they often are against the interest of big money CU it's very difficult to control that
so mem coins are the one place that people are very early on and that's why like it's the one place where you can have a competitive Advantage even in the utility coins they're so ran by these VCS that have these early allocations and they complet control the narrative Like you know they get early tokens they have buy under market value they get unlocked and they dump on people and people are tired of that last couple Cycles everyone's been burnt on these big Promises of you know this the web 3 project this is going to revolutionize
I've never been in a utility I've never seen a utility token have utility they they never fulfill their road maps and actually quite incredible how since 1718 cycle we've Had billions invested in this ecosystem we had some of the smartest mins in the world working crypto and there's still not one project that you ask Joe Schmo walking downstairs has ever used besides maybe Bitcoin and stable coins even these ones that were this were mining it were using laptops to mine nobody's mining it the the way these coins have have been have been keeping their price
or been going up in price just people buying into them who's mining these Coins the only reason people get into crypto is a greater fool Theory which they hope one day someone else is going to buy this coin for them for more but that's why I like meme coins cuz it's the purest form of that there's no lies there's no we're going to you know this is the Google of of web 3 this is going to revolutionize this you know on blockchain all these crazy promises none of those projects from last cycle have ever fulfilled
their road maps now they Had these old 10e road maps remember bechain I got invested I so much in Bain it's going to revolutionize you know this the whole uh whole transport routes and everything going onchain yeah I mean all of these it's all been a lie so people are tired of that and that's why meme coins are becoming so big it's because it's no lie it's a picture of this cute dog it's going to get wrecked 100% at some point but maybe you'll get in early maybe there's something this And it's it's Community Based
it's fun based instead of the these lies and you have you know it's rled with insiders and there's these seed rounds and they're going to dump on you very quickly so overall like mem coins are the purest form of crypto and although it's extremely risky like I can't recommend anyone to to buy any single coin but you know if you have an edge and if you understand and you know what to look at then it's the most profitable Place in crypto by far yeah interesting you know there's this funny story about this king who was
sitting in his Palace and like a poor guy walks in comes to him and he's like I have a really good opportunity for you I'm a farmer the king is like where's this guy doing here you know like he's wearing like torn up clothes he's said listen The Season's about to come where I'm going to grow a crazy amount of crop but I have a very small piece of land you Have access to a lot of land that you're not doing anything with give me access to it I'll grow my crop there and I'll make
you money the king is like amazing it sounds like the best deal ever he's like all right how much land do you want he's like I want like this XYZ kilometers square kilometers he's like okay he arranges this tells this guy yo give him that land you know let's get him let's get it let's get some money few weeks later the king the Guy comes back to him and the King thinks ah here's my Farmer Where's My Money the farmer is like listen about that I I we're doing things are going well but like if
you give me a bit more land I'm really sure I can give you a bit more money he was like okay fine the King was like man like I really thought this guy was going to come in my bag but okay fine he tells this guy give him some more Land few months go by and the King's Way he telling his guys go look around for his farmer Where's My Money the farmer comes back by himself he's like ah you've come back where's my money I don't I see you're not holding any bags of of
cash with your coins no gold he's like look I just need a little bit more land a little like The Season's here we're doing so well but just give us a little bit more land trust me the is going to be huge so the king got Frustrated he said look take this stick he had like this shaft he's like take this stick walk outside my Palace walk as far as you want and the further you go from this from the first step you take outside my Palace till the place where you put the stick down
and shove it in the ground all that land is yours so he told him do this and the guy gets up he's like are you serious he's like yep take as much land as you want the King was like I'm I'm Ready like The Season's here yeah you also want to teach the guy a lesson the farmer went he never came back he he fell off the face of Earth basically he he went and every time he thought that he put the stick down a little bit more land a little bit more land until he
died age got to him but the story is obviously a joke but it's a good point where like we talk about you know if you if you think that you're you're going the time is coming you Think you might be at a point where it's going down it's better just to take your profits because the end of the day like you said you can't go broke taking profits the only thing is I feel like what some people argue is that like for example where Bitcoin is now it's never been that high before right so and
there's like this quote from Warren Buffett like time in the market beats timing the market what do you think about that and also while you answer That also tell me what you think about nfts because I'm so curious to hear your opinion nfts now why they're so devalued yeah I mean to touch on on timing the market first um I think crypto has been super cycal like every time we say okay this these foure Cycles is he Haring but just because it has been repeating doesn't mean it's going to happen again I think it's going
to become less and less important but also the harving if you think you know every time the Blockchain gets get cut in half so basically you have 64 Bitcoins per block then 32 then 16 then eight then four then two but every time becomes less incrementally important the drop from four to two is only two Bitcoin different per block but from 64 to 32 that's a 32 difference per block and already you know 90% of the Bitcoin has been mined so you're only fighting incrementally lower on this last 10% so the Haring has less of
an effect like Mathematically there's less Bitcoin being affected so it's more the psychological when everyone thinks it's going to crash I'm going to sell and then I'm going to buy these things become so fulfilling prophecies because everyone takes profit it gets wrecked it keeps getting wrecked and then you know people buy it and then new cycle starts again and a lot of this is like very controlled and people understand that you know there's these cabals in crypto That literally run everything you know there's a few exchanges few key players that you know you see these
videos in these like Chinese trading rooms with like 321 dump and they just all sell Bitcoin it drops like three grand they open up their shorts at the same time I've seen this happen in mem coins people pay to get it listed on on binance whatever exchange they open up a bunch of shorts and they all just sell sell sell I mean this is completely Illegal this is Market manipulation but it happens in crypto because it's so not ulated yet it's still such an invy it's like pink sheets back in the day in in Manhattan
um so you have these few key players that run everything but timing cryp though is way easier than any other thing because of these cyclical things but I don't think it's going to stay that way I think Bitcoin buy Bitcoin now and forget it for 10 years I believe wholeheartedly in crypto and since day I'm like 98% exposed besides a few Watchers and and a few things I'm I'm all in in crypto and have been for years where else would I want my money if you believe you know if you hold dollars you're guaranteed to
lose eight to 10% a year and when you have 100 million know you're losing 8 to 10 million a year that hurts so these people want to put their money somewhere what's the most liquid what can you move around anywhere what's there no regulation with that's Bitcoin that's super attractive you know you can buy gold and these people have very Diversified but if you just put 10% of that in crypto that's 10 million that's EAS and move you can go pay anyone anytime you know there's there's no control in it it's not going to inflate
so it's very very attractive you know to to beat out what you're guaranteed to lose in Fiat so and people are tired of this Fiat scam you see how much money they're printing you know They're seeing where they they're sending it and Bitcoin is is kind of like a vote against that and you know the money controls the world and I think Bitcoin will never become a currency but I think it'll become more like gold because the US won't allow Bitcoin to become the currency of the world you want to be able to control the
currency of the world and Bitcoin is is too difficult to control and they don't have you know it Become impossible them to have own a big Supply they'll have to spend you know hundreds of billions if not trillions to buying meaningful Supply they have to keep buying no one's selling price keeps going up so it become very difficult for them to control this I don't think even Drome power was talking last night they said we're never making Bitcoin you know in the Federal Reserve and Bitcoin just tanked like literally like $7,000 from drone power saying
that so it's still Very risky asset I still think we're early I think a million dollar Bitcoin isn't crazy if you look 10 years down the line um but overall in crypto I think Bitcoin is is a complete separate entity to the rest of crypto Bitcoin longterm other coins I would not hold any coin for more than one cycle I think every coin by definition is is fueled by hype speculation and there's always going to be something new on the Block a new shiny object better Tech better Influences better marketing um and you know the
shiny new thing what about I mean like t s right it has that the P behind it which is can can get can get tricky but in terms of like the it has like a app with how many million users 900 million yeah 900 almost a billion users yeah so everything in in in crypto and in business in general is distribution so if you now have big influencers talking about it if you have this built-in app you know that's 900 Million eyeballs that they get on ton instantly so things that are just like an unfair
Advantage they call in these hedge funds is that you have these few things that these companies have same with apple it just has an unfair advantage in terms of they they control everything so it's the same same with ton they have this unfair advantage in terms of crypto because they have the best distribution they have an actual usable product they have good Tech so I'm a big fan of ton but still um I wouldn't hold any coin for more than the cycle even these great coins I've seen so many great coins and you know getting
them get make money but you know take profits and get out before the House of Cards you know comes falling down um you know only project I would feel comfortable holding longer term is Bitcoin but in terms of nfts I think nfts are I I hated them last cycle and in the bare Market have been I've been Buying a few and I think I think it's going to be big um I mean pengu just launched uh two days ago PUD Penguins is NF that's one coin I'm extremely bullish on and you know it's a mem
coin but it's not even really a mem coin it's a utility coin and you know the Pud penguin it's it becomes like a culture I mean so pudgey Penguins they already you know sell their their toys at Walmart um and they're building a game as well I think it's going to be very much like You know Club Penguin um so I think pudy Penguins is is building an entire world um you know in this crypto and they have they've been talking about this Penguin game for so long but I didn't see it yet I I
I I believe in Luca net in the long-term Vision um that's one of the coins I'm I'm I've been buying so I mean the last couple weeks I've thrown in a ridiculous amount of money um into that and that's something I think by the end of the cycle it'll be easily a top 20 Crypto I think easily a top three mem coin um so I I believe quite heavily in in pudy Penguins because it has such an elite team it's such an easy and Ascent narrative and they're bigger than just crypto if you look at
the views they're getting on these reals I mean like my girl sends me you know videos of P penguin she doesn't even know that're an nft project but they made this very good content which is distribution so they have a bunch of eyeballs on it they have An incredible team and they've got money to spend and it's a very likable concept it's easy to understand I think a lot of these these complex crypto projects people people are scared of now they've been burnt by them it's all these big words these jargon whereas P Penguins is
is easy to understand it's very friendly it's you know easy to invest in it's not this complex blockchain solution to to whatever it is web 3 jogging nfts overall I still think it's it's very Early a lot of them are going to go to complete zero any NFS to buy P penguin is the only one I feel comfortable saying I think you know also the OG ones you know like the crypto punks and these type of things by a punk now um I I think so I think so I had one for a little bit
I sold it profit quite recently um to to buy pudgy Penguins um but nfts I think overall how much profit did you make on that one on the on the punk maybe like 30,000 nothing too crazy When did you buy it um I bought it uh not too long after I was in Dubai here so in like U May around yeah May after token 2049 have the the Buns gone up bus have gone up puns have have gone up since the bare Market yeah yeah definitely um like the the the bull markets yeah yeah it
has it has an effect I think nfts overall I think they're still in the infant stage the only use case for nfts right now is profile pictures on on An X you know people want to show off that they own these things but I think the the tech itself is is quite R was the most yeah I think you know mortgage yeah everything I mean already um South Korea they're issuing you know passports as nfts and so good luck buying alcohol uh with a fake balls when you it's on blockchain you can see your date
of birth all of this so stuff like that is is very useful and the tech behind crypto and blockchain that's one of the Few use cases I can actually see with it but there still is so much development it's so infant stage um a lot of it is just speculation no use case um but I think the og1 same as Bitcoin Crypt punks are similar like the Bitcoin of nfts it isn't the best tech it isn't anything revolutionary but because it's the first mover it has a big advantage and then I really like pudy I
like the coin I like the the nfts as well okay so what some people might say is that they Might say well if I if I invest everything in Bitcoin I'm going to get a small return and if I invest everything I have and let's see because you talk about one coin to have it to be Bitcoin if I invest everything I have into BNB the potential upside is is probably a lot more just because of Market Gap and also if for any reason anything happens to binance the whole Market will crash anyways all the
coins will crash so what did you see that argument because yes Realistically you know if binance goes down everything is going down if bance goes down Bitcoin is definitely they hold like how much Bitcoin a lot yeah but I mean so you have these these key players that have been around you had Mount go back in the day you had these big exchanges that have gone bankrupt they had more market share back then than binance has now yes Mount gax it's like the the original you had all these these big exchanges was the actual money
In in crypto that time I mean at that point they controlled like a massive amount of like 50% of crypto but was there in terms of money but that that isn't as relative because percentage wise you have more money flowing in anyway um so you have these big players that have ran away with the crypto some of them you know got got regulated some of them just you know had access to all these wallets and they just disappeared um and you know back then it didn't kill The network I I don't think Bitcoin at this
point is very killable yes it will take a massive hit and that's what most people care about most people don't care about the the revolution Tech they're in it to make money if binance goes down of course Market's going to get wrecked but I don't think it will kill it I still think you know at the end of this cycle the end of the cycle will come from regulation these meme coins all this this is going to end this you know me Throwing a couple hundred dollars into something coming out with six figures like this
isn't going to be possible forever how are they how are they going to stop it they're going to completely regulate it in terms of the listing in terms of the the market manipulation in terms of wallet getting in can they can they stop can they stop like a new coin coming out from pump fun like I mean take down pump fun yeah but then a million other pump funds no no no but It's always going to it's always going to be regula you only need a few key players if they control you know Phantom wallet
if they you know Salon itself has to do more Jill engin Phantom is so new like even the control Phantom just came out like few like few months ago you know yeah but it has so much Market sh and when you make it you know you like you always make an example out of these first people they'll send them 80e jail sentences you know no no one's going to Want to start up things like that so we'll all be regulated and I think that's where the downfall of the cycle will come because I think also
because it's International I think like there's people sitting in Iran that have no fear at all of what's going to happen in us or what us going do make it completely banned I mean there this certain you know same with you know good luck buying drugs you know you can try get drugs from Ira like it's difficult you can Regulate things pretty strongly um I do think there'll always be a weth for it but if the US says you know they they ban these sites you know the volume is going to drop 80% and Europe
will follow um so it still be possible but we don't care if it's possible we care if it's if it's likely to happen and if there's money in so I think the end of this cycle will come from Big regulation and meme coins like they are now are going to get heavily scrutinized I think a lot Of people are going to get punished pretty heavily publicly and that's going to scare off a lot of people but you know while it's here like this is the craziest opportunity to make money like where else do you see
someone put in $20 in peanut and pull out 25 million like no else I have a couple more coins to buy and also tell me about your favorite CH so like do you like base chains arbit arbitrum I in terms of in terms of meme coins I think salon and eth are still The king okay meme coins for meme coins yes yes so on eth eth eth eth and B&B I think will also come back these aren meme coins no mem coins built on these chains oh sorry sorry yeah so I think eth mean coins
have a way longer time frame so L of mean coins I'm in and out if you see like the P it's like you know I I usually go anyway 30 to 50K profit believe whiff for example or too big too big I mean why why get into whiff maybe a 3X I mean that's that's boring for me I want to get into things you know sub a million market cap I look for the right things and then it goes to 50 million I'm out 50x you know 2K into 100K and then I'm out I'm not
I'm not there to stick around forever um and of course it is it is risky but I need upside if I'm going mem coins I'd rather invest in meme coins that are small and have upside and if I want to P safer bets I'd rather buy utility coins what's your portfolio like right now um I have a lot Of bit tensor a lot of towel give me percentages a lot of a probably like 30% 30% 30% to also similar like maybe 28% avax um I have still about 20% in in Stables uh and then the
rest St te tether and you I spread my Stables cuz USC and the the rest is is mainly meme coins um I hold a lot of pengu now probably wa you said you said 60% in AAC and to yeah probably around 20% stables and then probably 20% in in in in in meme coins And in terms of longer term meme coins which mem coins yeah I mean I'll get i'll get into more some more DJ ones okay so start with pengu which is p Penguins is coin it's already at you know at this time recording
three billion market cap but that's I think a mix of utility and meme which is I like a lot in terms of really low cap you know [ __ ] is is Twisters on Tron um I hold quite a lot of that um and with salon and mem coins the time frame is Too short because it's so accessible there's so many you know jeets that these things you know they run up and they die they run up and they die so on Salon me coins I couldn't recommend any on Tron I like Twisters on Pon
I like ton cats um and you know for every chain I try have a bag of something eth I'm still looking for for a gem um and salana meme coins it's it's too short Pace because of how retail focused it is everyone is in and out very very quickly Um and I don't want to give you know these tiny micro cap coins that are then GNA Jo B Joe Bowden no no not a fan not a fan I made I made a lot of Joe Bowden uh but I very quickly uh got out of that
um and the problem is with me recommending set meme coins is my investments are so short-term based that by the time this podcast comes out they're already up 10x and they're already down 90% afterwards um but safe bets I think Twisters ton cat um and a Couple other meme coins but I think better would be for me to teach what to look at than specific things you know teach a man how to fish um so the three things you need to know are team and for a lot of these meme points this is quite irrelevant
undocks nobody knows so the next most important things is narrative you know what is this about is it this thing viral on Tik Tok is it you know is it a funny joke is it completely nonsense like you need to find out what Is the story behind it CU that's what people are investing in people want to get them into mem coins to have fun and to sell it for more so if you're thinking you're looking at this meme coin and you're up 10x would I buy this now if the answer is no then you
should sell because someone else isn't going to buy it if you're not willing to buy it a 10 million market cap someone else isn't either so you know that's how you should you should look at things and then the Third thing is kind of the these certain signals you should look at if it's you know cabal look at the deck screen look at the chart look at the holders you know these are the the kind of more specific things look at the the artwork they have look at the telegram you know look at the X
who's following the X profile who's talking about it and the problem is is that a lot of these projects by the time you find them from your favorite influences that's all paid For it's way too late you know I'm the person often connecting these projects to these influencers and they these projects see these influences as ex liquidity by the time some undocked person on Twitter is talking about it you know they want people to buy in so the team sells onto those buys cuz they pay $100,000 to have this big X profile talk about it
it needs to be positive Roi for them they're not there to make this coin go to the moon for no reason These people want money so exit liquidity so by the time your favorite influencers are talking about it's already too late so you know you need to be in these these telegram chats you need be looking at things yourself look at new pump fund launches you know fil to buy you know is is the dev still in is um the hold is messed up you know these type of things and it isn't 100% hit rate
but because of the nature of meme coins if you can have a decent hit Rate and sell your losses pretty quickly and let your Runners ride a bit so I sell when if I'm down 20% I often just exit so I'm entering usually like quite small like only two $3,000 CU it's a very high risk and I'll do like five a day um and at least one of those will hit like a 10 15x if you know what you're looking for um so cut your loss is small and it can only lose $500,000 Max at
a time but my upside is is mid five to six figures every time so it's a Complete asymmetric bet and that's what you're looking for in meme coins is where your risk is is lower but your upside potentially is so much higher and majority of people are just going to be gambling on coins but if you know what to look for and you know the right Connections in the space and you know the these signs is pattern recognition this worked this worked okay you know this meme is very famous right now on Tik Tok and
you know for me that's been Great because um so young and them tapped into very much of the Tik Tok space which become the biggest narrative in some of my biggest plays the last couple weeks I've been coming from Tik Tok I've been coming from reals because you know these are things that other people contract very care of so get your competitive Advantage if you're super well versed in one Niche find that out you know if it's AI coins whatever it is if it's meme coins on salana or on bass I know guys that only
trade on bass and they're getting crazy returns only trade on salana and so Niche down and find a competitive vage because you can print so much money over you just need one little Edge and you can print ridiculous amounts of money from it nice talk to me about let's say a day in your life what's a day in your life like is do you just wake up and just buy two coins then just chill for rest day so I mean my day you buy like five coins you just chill For rest of day so the
day in my life looks now very different to when it looked when I was on the come of course but now so nowadays let me let me touch them both so basically when I was I was very disciplined like for a very long time like from around 14 to like 17 when I was like really DED in I was like making majority of my money I was you know building everything that's when I was extremely ding I wake up around 4:30 I had the the whole three-hour morning Routine ice bath meditation breath work because I
thought this is what rich people do um and now when I have way more money than I have then I can't say I do the things I still do a lot of them but so I'd wake up 4:30 I would Journal ice bath meditation I'd ride my my bicycle to the ocean which is very cold in South Africa it's you just deceptively cold um so I would go there and I would sit in this this cold water for 50 minutes it's dark out it's Miserable no one else is there rough sea I just be cold
exposure this before I bought an ice bath um so I would cycle in the dark um to the ocean and I would like sit on like the seabed like just thinking and it's freezing cold war in South Africa for anyone knows um and I you know cycle back home andd warm up with a cold shower that like me rinsing the sea water off would be when we warming up with a cold shower and then I'd go to School and I know until like a week ago I had a full-time job I've you know I think
a lot of people use school as an excuse I mean I've built you know seven figures all the Social Media stuff everything alongside being in school every single day of the week for eight hours and getting top grades and and getting perfect grades today he'll find out if he gets into Harvard yes so my my application today which is Lally like a couple hours off this podcast which you Know hopefully hopefully go well um but so that was kind of the the morning routine then and uh you want to get into Harvard just so you
can drop out and be a Harvard drop said I think yeah I think the connection I think it's overheated on University in general um I think L people I think a lot of people online you know the the Tates emans these people people are very critical of University but also you have to take away the grain of salt because they sell A product that is a rival to it you know you don't need go to a university but you know here's my course and things like that whereas I do agree that it's not necessary I
think University in general isn't worth it but if you can go to one of these top schools say Harvard Stanford won one of these ones that there is value in it simply value wife to make like $100,000 a year that's aage salary that's the average salary of course of course and uh I I I'll never Need the piece of paper I don't think there's anything that I'll like learn from this class that is going to be life-changing I don't need the piece of paper but I think it's the verification badge in real life a lot
of these hedphone guys things like that like because I was still in high school if I had finished high school and I didn't go to university I would have never gotten in but they just assumed I was going to go to some some Universe afterwards but If you ever want to raise money if you ever you know if Zuckerberg went to S capital that's true for money and he wasn't Zucker from Harvard they would never even taken the meeting with him so it opens a lot of doors I don't think it's necessary but the certain
people value it very very heavily so I think it is worth it those people are kind of changing like those those people are changing their viewpoints even Google they have announced that they're they're Caring less about University but of course har it's similar to wearing the right watch to a lot of these people like I remember I was in I was in mono and I was sitting with all these super rich people all of them were worth 100 million plus you know a couple billionaires there and I'm sitting at this lunch table and this is
the first time they're meeting each other as well so hey this is I do so and so um I go to Warton I go to Harvard I go to sford They're all saying these big names and the one guy that's just as successful as the rest of them hey I go to University of Tennessee you know something random and all of a sudden everyone's just less interested they turn their chair away a bit even though he's just as successful it's like this materialistic thing it's like having the Burkin whatever it is for these people it
just shows those guys they not drop out of universities like some of them finished but yeah lot Of them did I don't think you need the piece of paper but I think because it's such a high performer environment that just The credibility of getting in is is very valuable because it's such like scrutinization process again not only like perfect grades are just the start everyone is perfect grade you're competing with all of Asia you know India CH I mean these people you have everyone has perfect grades you need something deeper than that you need to
Be some Olympian athlete or done some crazy things in business and that's kind of like uh because it's so competitive there's value in it yeah okay is there anything some asked at the end of podcast is there anything which is there anything which I could have asked you I didn't ask you which you think is important oh yeah I wanted to ask you actually you said that you follow the right people who give you advice on coins do you have like a telegram also Would you make your own mcoin number one number two do you
have a telegram where you announce uh upcoming projects right now not but by the time this podcast comes out I will I debated it because I never have taken on other people's money um I don't I can I can sleep at night losing my own money but I'll feel very bad losing other people's money you know I've had days I woke up and I'm down a quar million dollars at you know as a teenager and you know I'm I'm okay with That but I'm thinking now if I have someone's lost dollar that I lost as
even though it was like all the money I had at the time I literally have gone broke multiple times along um and I would I would be less okay with it if it was someone else's money um so by the time this video comes out yeah I'll have a telegram Channel but I'll always be worry in terms of I'm not going to be you know paid to talk about anything I'm not going to send anything to degenerate I've s things I have really have conviction in they have free course as well coming live yeah so
I I don't sell any a lot of people in the space have you know some type of paid product they have a course or coaching or anything like I make money from the markets that's all I make money from I don't get paid I don't sell anything um and that is a selling point uh for me is that I even having my bio I don't sell anything it's a Business choice and I could yeah I could right now you know start up some paid program and post a story and I think easily have 100K of
like whatever crypto course I start um but I'm not really interested in that I'll create a free course that you give all the value that's better than all the $5,000 products created completely for free um which would be I've been fil filming it here in Dubai so it'll be out by the time this podcast comes out but um yeah I'm sure you you'll see me on your feed uh at some point I'm taking the content a lot more seriously I mean already have like 300K followers yeah I was doing it for a while quite actively
and then I completely stopped as I've you know been making a lot of money for crypto because there's no Ro y on it for me like I I don't sell anything you know I'm paying edits I'm paying these type things it's just kind of like a black hole for money um but I'll get back into it with a with A free um course and earn purely of Affiliates I mean that's the earning model not you know I'm not some some Saint as well of course everyone is you know doing anything for for different reasons um
but yeah I don't sell anything I'll have a telegram and a free course out for people to check out if they want you want to launch a m coin I could launch a meme coin and profit probably 1 to two million like very very quickly um but someone's going to lose Then cuz the difference with mem coins is that it's a net negative um there's no money coming from nowhere yeah completely if I make 100,000 from this mem coin there's going to be a, people that lost $100 when you invest in them like when you
invest in one and it goes up and you sell someone else bought that loss same thing making it then because it's mine and they trust in me so I wouldn't want anyone that trusts in me to lose money yeah but I feel like when You announce that I'm making a m crew and you're announcing that listen I'm I'm making you a chancee where you're either going to make a lot or you're going to lose a lot that's inherit in the I'm not super against it maybe at some point um but it need to be bigger
than I already have one but it's behind the scenes maybe maybe but uh if I were to put my face publicly to anything um I I'd want to be run very well and i' run it less like a meme coin and you know Every meme coin goes up and go no no it would be a meme coin but I I have some ideas I'd run it different the the entire structure of a mem coin right now that had like this crazy like you put the helium and yeah [ __ ] it's it's all it's all
smoking mirrors that's all the these crypto projects are that's why I hate the utility on so me mcoins are fun and I think it's the only place in the world where you can make really life-changing money very very quickly And Everyone likes quick money but quick money isn't easy money there's definitely an aspect of luck in it and I say I got lucky often now leave me I'll be lucky and I'll stay lucky you know I'm these coins every day so I must be the luckiest guy in the world if you're if it's purely luck
um but uh yeah I'll stay lucky I don't mind being lucky yeah there the nice video where Andre J he's like I always belied I'm lucky he's like why would I believe I'm unlucky like if You believe you're lucky you'll always be lucky completely and the harder you work the lucky you get completely morit thank you so much any last words before we wrap this up thank you for having me Mor yes I'm easy going m m thank you so much for your time I appreciate it check him out guys I leave all his socials
in the description what an interesting guy such a nice chat I actually learned a lot bro so thank you check him out links will be in the description and look Forward to seeing you guys in the next one thank you so much
