I tried to negotiate with Mr Porter, your honor. We are trying to do this between us, not him and the attorney. She really is disconnected between a lot of it.
Can't Miss Karns, you there's no negotiating then. So, I guess here it is. Sorry about that.
Um, no worries. Miss Van Dyken joins us again. Miss Van Dyken, good morning.
Good morning, Eron. And um Miss Van Dyken appears, let me just make sure, appears on behalf of the plaintiff, Travis Porter. Mr Porter, good uh morning to you.
Good morning. And um the defendant appears uh Miss Kaylee Karns. Uh Miss Karns, good morning to you.
Good morning, sir. I have read your motion, Miss Karns. Um and I take it you have um seen that as well, Miss Van Digen.
I have your honor. Thank you. And you received Miss Van Dykin's response.
Uh, Miss Karns, that is correct. Okay. Um, anything you want to add to your motion before we hear from Miss Van Dyken?
Yes, sir. Um, I just want to um kind of give you a little bit of since this has all happened until today. Um, Travis is doing exceptionally well since filing this paperwork.
He is getting work. He is getting job. He has moved his bedroom out of Olive's room, which was something that we have discussed over and over again.
Um, so a lot of these things he's making strides, which is great improvement. I support that. That's all I want is to support Travis in being a better father for our child.
We have not had anything established with the courts yet. So this is kind of step one to get something written to um you know with these conditions and everything that has transpired. Um we have been pretty much verbal and we co-parent very well for the sake of our child.
We don't have issues on many things. However, it was brought to light what was happening um when I filed this paperwork. Uh I filed it shortly after I found out what was actually happening um at his household.
And um I am a stable parent. I always have been. Travis leans a lot on his parents, which I know you've read that in my motion.
And the concerning factor is is I need to make sure that moving forward, Travis is on pace with getting better, getting help, getting a job, becoming stable on his own, not so much his parents' help. I need to co-parent with him and not his parents. Well, let me ask you this.
Um Yes. because um it seems that um the probably the better approach in my view since you now have um Mr Porter being represented by a very able attorney is to um send each other proposals and see if you two can agree on that did happen your honor. Okay.
I mean, uh, Miss Van Dyken, have you and Miss Karns communicated at all? No, your honor. I didn't think so.
Um, he has an attorney on the case now, Miss Karns. Um, yes. I would like to give Miss Van Dyken the opportunity to try and work um towards a resolution of this before we start getting into long drawn out expensive court matters because it sounds like to me the some of the things you've asked for in the motion are reasonable.
Some of the things that Miss Van Dyken has pointed out are reasonable. It would make imminent sense to me anyway um to adjourn this motion without date and have you and Miss Van Dyken exchange uh some possible proposals and see if you two can't come to some agreement on paper in writing so that um your honor I'm so sorry that did happen. She sent me a docu sign a few days ago and I did not sign it because we did not communicate at all.
um she tried to have me sign something for joint everything down the middle and with his condition he is not able to make those decisions right now. So that is not stop talking please not confused confused now have you had conversations with Miss Karns? I've not had conversations your honor.
My client had told me that they spoke and they had an agreement. I put that into a stipulated order and sent it to Miss Karns. Obviously, she didn't agree with it and she whatever they were communicating wasn't clear.
Um, so I but I I understand this court's wanting to adjourn this, but we need something to be followed. This can't be a unilateral decision made by Miss Karns. Well, I mean, obviously, um, I'm not going to, um, uh, cut off parenting time.
Um, I don't have a problem if, uh, his parents supervise, at least for the time being. Um, but as you know, uh, I can't make these decisions on a Friday morning. This is going to be sent to the front of the court.
Um, and then you're going to be right smack dab in the place you were before. So, um, I'm trying to look for something to short circuit this. And it would have been a little um more productive, Miss Karns, if you simply would have, and I don't know if you have, maybe you did, if you simply would have written to Miss Van Dyken and say, "Okay, I've got this.
These are the things I'm okay with. This is something I'm not okay with. " And that's what negotiation is, right?
I mean, you just can't. Negotiation is not someone sent you something, you refuse to sign it, and then everybody goes their separate ways, right? I tried to negotiate with Mr Porter, your honor.
We are trying to do this between us, not him and the attorney. She really is disconnected between a lot of it. Can't, Miss Karns.
There's no negotiating then. So, I guess we have to send it to the front of the court. Okay.
Um, then that's where it's going to go. And the FIFA, that's 300. and you're responsible for that, Miss Karns.
Um, and that's what I'll do because clearly um the judgment of support was entered and um uh what I will I take it, Miss Van Dyken, uh since since this is a Sims versus Bugie matter, you'd be requesting that this court refer it also on legal custody. Is that accurate? That is accurate, your honor.
I'll do it. Um there's a lot better ways to do this um than this. But um I got to do something.
So I will complete the order of reference. Um, and if the parties I will tell you this, if the parties have um, verbally agreed to a parenting time schedule, I want that schedule followed until we come back into court. Um, unless that's now an issue.
Uh, your honor, I'm so sorry. You're chatty, Karns. Very chatty.
Go ahead. Me and him are in agreements of parenting time. We are not in agreeance of legal custody.
That is the only thing that we have not been in agreeance of. And I just wanted I'm not trying to be a chatty Kathy. I'm just trying to make sure you understand where we're at with this.
So the parenting time is fine, Miss Van Dyken. We just need legal custody taken care of. And I guess I want to clarify, is the parenting time fine as to what I put in my stipulated order as a 223 schedule?
That's in my stipulated orders. I'd have to review the order more detailed before I I put it on record. I'd like more time, but essentially, yes, what we've been doing is what Travis told me.
That's what he told you. So, that's what we agreed on as far as parenting time, but just the legal part of things because not make decisions. Okay, I get it.
I get it. So, I'm going to ask Miss Van Dyken to resend via docysine the order, but leave out the legal custody and I will send that to the friend of the court and they can chew on that for uh and see if that's appropriate. That way, um we get something started now.
Um and that way the parties know where they stand and um then we can take care of it that way. But, uh it's a good point. I get it, Miss Curts.
Um, legal custody is a big step, but uh um we'll see what the front of the court has to say about that. And uh um come back and I'll have Miss Van Dyken prep the order that um has everything in it as previously except the legal custody and I'll do the order of reference on that. Okay.
Thank you, honor. I'll send that over to Thank you, Miss Karns. Mr reporter.
I wish you both the best of luck. Okay. Yep.
Thank you.
