bob and brad the two most famous physical therapists on the internet [Music] hi folks brad heineck physical therapist and here we have chris the pharmacist hey guys today we are going to talk about apple cider vinegar used for leg cramps and more this is a very interesting uh video if you have leg cramps particularly and if you want to find a nice way to get rid of them uh we'll get into detail on that but before we get any farther uh bob's not here today obviously so we're very happy to have chris join us uh
he's uh very knowledgeable and did a lot of research on this so we got some anecdotal evidence and some great research yep but before we go any farther we do we ought to mention all right here we go get business out of the way uh today we do have a giveaway the giveaway is this nice massage gun it's the c2 bob and brad massage gun this is great for massaging those muscles uh you can't go wrong with it uh it is on the giveaway if you want to get it go to bob and brad.com go
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to be on a podcast as well driving down the road exciting listen to it exciting learn about cramps and how to get rid of them so uh we're going to talk about apple cider vinegar we've done this before uh but this is kind of interesting because chris has crams i have everyone most everyone has everyone has cramps everyone has cramps it seems like uh leg cramps are more prevalent overall i don't we don't have any research on that but as a therapist i've worked with a lot of people and tried to help them how to
get rid of their cramps with stretching uh and it's always i can't think of a time where it wasn't leg cramps hamstrings quads yep or calves it always seems to be below the waist but i mean if you think about it we walk we stand i mean we're creatures that move all around right right i think it stands to reason at least from a logical standpoint that i think it's just day-to-day activity that can lead you know whether it's muscle weakness whether it's dehydration there's a lot of things that lead into it but it's always
below the waist and it seems to me you know either athletes are more prone to it or older people in their 50s and 60s perhaps yeah yeah statistically uh it's it's the majority of people that have cramps 60 old ladies 60 year old females yep and that's from the research that's from the research so for whatever reason don't know why okay they probably work harder than us well that's a given exactly exactly uh all right so we have that information so where's the bottle here we go this is what happened this is a the true
story my wife saw this bottle at a hardware store in la crosse wisconsin and it says stops leg and foot cramps in about one minute so she says oh brad my husband the famous physical therapist might be interested in this so she brought it home and i looked at it and went yeah i was like gonna work in one minute so anyways uh and i looked at the ingredients and chris you research this in detail because i actually because chris was having cramps consistently so i happily gave this yes to chris and i says you
can try this and i think chris in his head said yeah right i i renamed it the salad dressing treatment uh yeah i mean you can tell you can you know go give them all the details yeah so uh this happens to be it's it says proven old amish formula and i i kind of laughed at brad just like his his take when uh his wife had mentioned it to him at the hardware store and i'm like there's just no way this is going to work for leg cramp and we've actually done videos on cramps
and we've done extensive research on cramps and we've personally had cramps just like all of you have had cramps and nobody likes cramps they hurt they wake up in the middle of the night or they happen at the most inopportune time it's just not a lot of fun so i i really scoffed at uh brad's apple cider treatment well you didn't even use it you just put it on the table and he called it the salad dressing because there's actually a little more than yeah the actual ingredients in here apple cider vinegar pure organic unfiltered
it's got the mother so i mean it's it's it's everything you want but it also has a little bit of ginger and it also has a little bit of garlic and so in my mind's eye rationally as a pharmacist i'm thinking pharmaceutically i can't come up with a reason for any one of those three things to stop a cramp right and i'm thinking well you know this could be one of those family old remedies that for whatever reason works and i don't care why it works but chris you know he it's nice to know because
he wants to know how it works i want to know why because i like to tell my patients you know what really works and why and what we have to be careful with sure and so to me it's important and and so but one night i had my my cramp and i'm like well darn it i'm going to go down and i had to go all the way downstairs with the cramp uh this one was hamstring yeah so mine usually are my hamstring but i do get lower leg ones particularly my feet usually when i'm
swimming at my feet but when i'm in my sleep it's hamstrings but moving on uh so i go downstairs almost fall down i get to the kitchen and i i throw i do a tail i threw a tablespoon in four ounces of water drank it down you were still cramping at the cramping at the time active cramp for probably five minutes and it was not comfortable uh and i'm like this better i'm just thinking myself this is gonna work this this better work i'm gonna make fun of brad if this doesn't work and like 30
seconds later i'm walking across the kitchen to go back upstairs as i was limping and also it just went away so it released it released and there is no explicable reason gut transit time is 30 to 60 minutes so you're gonna drink this and it should take time to go from gut to body to create it and so that raised a lot of questions for me at two in the morning which is not this time to be thinking but i was um and so you know and that's what kind of bred to this video but
the reality of it is so we looked at different ways of why apple cider vinegar may help cramps and there are studies after studies that existed like 11 people here six people there 12 people there it's hard to study cramping because unless you do some pretty mean things to people it's hard to induce one sure but they do seem to come when we're sleeping or at rest or even during activity i mean people athletes have cramped during games you'll see football games you see marathoners you'll see track runners with fatigue and heat i think yep
which makes sense because you know we can always think about hydration and electrolytes which are kind of the mainstay and there's you know big companies like gatorade and powerade that that's how they make their bread and butter off of it but when we kind of looked at some of this and the amount of evidence that's out there that studies hydration and electrolytes and there's anecdotal evidence probably at best because there's just not enough wide body of research with apple cider vinegar the interesting thing about the vinegar was and the the first two that i found
that were really eye-opening to me the first one there was a gentleman that actually was talking about it um and he said that he felt that apple cider vinegar could promote more production of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine which is just something that helps with the muscle actual potential and it makes it work so nervous nervous yeah so it is yeah and so and i'm like well that's fine but we're drinking this it it takes a long time to get into the system there's no way you could possibly but doing 15 milliliters this and some water and
drinking it you're going to raise your ass how much is 15 milliliters of a tablespoon full a tablespoon yeah just for kitchen you know what's used to measure anything yeah put that in with four ounces of water drink so that would be the dose for anybody at anything with apple cider vinegar i wouldn't really recommend going beyond that for a variety of reasons which you can touch on but there's i just don't think there's any way we can naturally stimulate creating a neurotransmitter to just build up more and stop the cramp so i read another
article i actually saw some swiss research and they actually said that they think the cramp is actually from just your brain being scrambled it's a bad message being sent to the muscle the muscle doesn't release so you're in this static state where it's just beating you up and it hurts everybody has had one nose and so when you take this i mean you get relief within 30 to 60 seconds so to me it's what they actually believed in their research whether it was consumed or rinsed in their mouth and this is why they think it
was a nerve problem is they think the sourness of the apple cider vinegar sends a signal to the brain and it literally just stops off the transmission that is creating the cramp so so so basically breaking signals saying cram cramp cramps whether it's electrical whether it's dehydration or electrolyte driven they actually think it's nervous driven and the fact that even rinsing your mouth creates the same effect as drinking it and having the cramp stop in 30 to 60 seconds seems to me that it's a lot more neurological in nature now again this is my opinion
i'd say it's much more anecdotal but that's the only explanation that i can come with without more wide burgeoning amounts of research done on that so if there's a research scientist out there a university that wants to study cramping and the neurological aspects of it i really do think that there is probably something to this sure so it's interesting and i i i have to say it works it works well and i swear by it now yeah and you even wrote in a testimonial yeah caleb trees is uh the manufacturer that makes this particular product
i think it's excellent you can get it online anywhere amazon or you can go directly to the website uh but that said it's it's i actually wrote on their site because i think it's fantastic sure yeah and yeah i i just was like he's never going to take this i kind of give it to you as a joke yeah i could i tried it and then my son had the same problem and he's a hockey player and and outside he didn't care for the taste but but it worked for him too so so we do
want to cry one more bridge here is if you're on some medications there is some medications you do not want to consume apple cider vinegar do you want to make sure that if you're on there's a special medication for your heart called lanoxin or digoxin that helps control your heart rate and rhythm and that can affect how potassium levels are your potassium levels and that can too with consistent use i would think for occasional use it's probably fine but it should be something you discuss with your doctor and your pharmacist uh i would happen to
just believe that most even pharmacists probably don't pay a lot of attention to apple cider vinegar right it's not in our wheelhouse i had to seek out the research it was and there's not tons of it sure um but the reality and diuretics water pills things that basically make you excrete uh through urine you can lose electrolytes and so when we're using things like this we have to be careful i'm sure and the last one that we want to be most careful is specifically type 1 diabetics that have diabetic induced gastroparesis that's basically where your
gut motility doesn't work well um it's this may because it slows this is why it might work as a weight loss aid but which we'll talk about in a different video but that said it can slow down gut uh motility and for people that already have gastroparesis that can be dangerous so specifically type one diabetic so so if you're diabetic type one best not to take this perhaps yeah i would i would talk to you don't discourage it because it does affect blood sugar and it which can be a positive thing but in a type
1 diabetic when you're so reliant when you're solely reliant on insulin um and and certain things there's a lot of multi there's the diabetic umbrella which we've talked about in other videos too we have to be real careful sure right right all right so very good uh here we've got uh another positive thing for apple cider vinegar it's the stuff yeah it's uh it's who knows what's gonna happen with this in the near future well i think it works people i'd say give it a shot yeah so one tablespoon four i i go a little
more than four ounces of water one thing i want to touch on too because it's actually acidic rinse your teeth afterwards so you don't ruin the enamel on your teeth right another big one another big one yep all right very good take care we hope those cramps go away quickly we're gonna stop cramping people that's right have a great day be careful in all that you do [Music] you