well I mean you were also threatening me with filing a lawsuit it wasn't a threat it was a a court mediated process that I have to take no you said You' go file a class action lawsuit against because I have to if this wasn't going to be a restitution show because I'm now in a custody situation because of the last show I'm not a party to your but you said you got 100% custody because of it well I had to take 100% custody because after that situation my ex escalated in his yeah but didn't that
work out well for you no because do you want to understand this in Wild donated $100 Jesus this chick is bad crazy Andrew please call up the Santa Barbara PD and Report the ESS charge giant tell to the University of Irvine okay um but I'm not I'm not going to do that if you apologize apologize for what battery I'm sorry sorry for what that I made you feel battered oh so I I mean if that's the apology it's the same apology that you gave me but you said it that that was an unacceptable apology well
you re what you so so I'm not going to give you a well if we're doing you re as you so and you don't want me to move over to Christian ethics where I usually don't do eye for an ey and I'm usually a pretty forgiving person just let things things go MH right I'm sorry that I put my beautiful in your lap I'm really sorry that that made you uncomfortable christed $100 please call CPS and take her children away from her they should play this entire podcast to the judge when deciding custody I just
left you a OnStar review on Amazon for her book everyone do it no that's we're not going to we're not going to you're not going to do like that so the thing is that's that's remarkably actually unhelpful in always the thing is is I would like to get into you in a social theory that I have and I'd like to explain it to you and get your takes because you are the expert have you ever heard of what's called Magic Theory no magic Theory goes like this this is considered a highly chauvinistic I suppose Theory
I don't think it is but essentially if a woman cannot control you through sexuality they move to manipulation if they can't control you through manipulation uh um they move over to empathy so these are mechanisms of control for that would be a mechanism of a sociopathic female yes but haven't you demonstrated all of those traits today I would say I had to cycle through the toxic version of those things and I arrived back on a genuine um presentation of femininity but you started I have I have just been simply responding to your toxic masculinity that
you've been putting on me so I've been trauma responding with toxic femininity yes it's a protective measure so then you were acting in a way which you considered to be sociopathic no because I wasn't being manipulative with my emotions but I I will admit to um intentional aggression against you yes but my crying and when you touched points of me that made me cry I wasn't trying to invoke any sort of empathy in you as clearly you don't have any and you've stated that many times and you don't care how I feel say I never
for you that was just me trying to literally in real time process my own trauma so I could move forward with the conversation well you can agree that um and I would agree with you too that empathy is important but you do you would have to agree with me that sometimes people will utilize empathy as a weapon true in order to get you to respond a certain way through manipulation So when you say well wait a second Andrew respond to me this way right and I'm going to present present myself this way which looks very
manipulative and then say well wait a second you're not responding with empathy so therefore you're you're a sociopath something like this isn't that kind of textbook manipulation Andrew it can be whatever you whatever you need me to say to move along with the conversation I consent so we can move along okay so you're just going to admit then that you've been being extremely manipulative this entire time well that's what you want correct well I mean I want you to tell the truth that's what I want no you don't yes I do I I don't agree
with you well I mean so you can read my mind I really do this would have been a totally really a really productive conver you should go back and look at all the debates I've done on here one-on-one they've always been super respectful and they've been they've really gone places which are good good places to go this one has just literally been a a G anywhere here why are you still here talking because I still think perhaps I can get to some kind of worldview which we can discuss I can still hope that whether we
will or not but you but but if you're just going to obstruct every time we get somewhere which is productive because you might have to take responsibility that's that's no good so I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't you're just damned if you don't if you're damned if you refuse to engage right poor he donated $100 let's be clear she didn't win custody of her kids she's holding them hostage from their dad okay anyway so yeah that's that's I just you know I want to get into the aspects because because you're
kind of a master right doesn't it doesn't it even stand a reason that if you're a master in Psychology and you are an expert in Psychology that you would also be an expert in employing manipulation tactics and psychological tricks in order to get people to empathize with your position yes yeah so I mean if that's true there's no reason for me to assume that you haven't been doing that okay okay well I I also to Andrew's Point there's been multiple times throughout the conversation where we were talking about the white supremacy stuff we were talking
about the your accusations of woman hating and instead of engaging you would just be like nope not talking about it don't want to talk about it so I think that's what he's talking about I'm trying to keep my nervous system regulated so I can keep having a conversation without crying okay all right well what's what is the um I know that you can't always explain this but what is the the motivation behind the crying did is it because you feel bad it's because my heart feels broken in certain moments and that's all I know how
to move forward from that position is to release it if I try to hold on to it it turns into something ugly so crying is actually a protective measure to keep me from attacking you in a way that would be mean and malicious I would rather just take in the Pain release it and then see if I can reather myself to continue the conversation or see if it's just done and I just need to leave well I think we can continue the conversation maybe we can get in a place where both of us have some
common ground right I kids just like you do with my kids biological yeah biological how old are they um so the uh the youngest is well I don't even want to get into their ages and there's reasons why but because I don't I have people who are not good people who will weaponize so you know how it feels do all sorts of yeah I've never weaponized your kids against you ever no I'm saying though but that is what happened because of the last show and that's why I'm in a tough spot yeah I mean yeah
because my kids got weaponized because of the but I can't I'm not responsible for that I'm not saying that you are but I am saying that the places that you're leading me are subjecting me and thus my mothering to well I'm I'm not things that are very traumatic for my children yeah I'm not going to try to do that that that wasn't the example I I see the allowance of of comments coming in still about my children about CPS about child about me being an and I explicitly asked I get the same comments I understand
that but I am actually in a active case because of this exact I've had my house swatted four times okay I get it no you don't get it I've had my house swatted four times had the police called to me multiple times all for expressing an opinion just like you we're in the same boat if you're going to be a public figure you're going to risk offense and if you risk offense sometimes crazy people are going to do bad things to you that's not my criticism my criticism is that I did not know that that's
what I was getting myself into when I came to the last show I did not know that that's what I was getting myself into I genuinely didn't I was under the impression that I was coming to a dating podcast just to discuss amongst other people like what's going on in the dat world that's literally all I thought why would you assume that people would be less likely to be have strong emotional opinions about dating than they do anything else guess I guess I was sheltered I just I didn't yeah they people have strong emotional opinions
about everything from politics to dating to interpersonal relationships they have strong opinions about circumcision they have strong opinions about everything and if you're if you don't have right think there's always going to be people who disagree with you and are going to try to do bad things I feel I feel as if the explicit animosity towards me as a mother and my children was very but you're the ones you're the ones that allow the comments are not you you remind people that there's certain trigger things and things that are so toxic you don't allow it
so therefore I know you have a censoring process yet you're still letting these comments automatically so there's no censoring process so what happens is keywords which would affect the algorithm gets censored that's what he's talking about with toxic comments so if somebody so you notice how comments are coming through that have particular slurs which are quite vicious towards women those get filtered out but saying generalized statements like oh I think this woman is a bad mother um you can't really do much about those if you're going to open if you're going to put yourself on
the internet at all and put yourself as a public figure you are going to risk offending people and they are going to some sometimes you're going to have Bad actors who will do horrible things I I I tend to try my hardest to ignore that myself because I've had people do horrible things to me horrible and the thing is is I don't hold uh even even my haters I don't even hold them responsible cuz most of my haters aren't so
