Yo today we going to be interviewing presidential candidate um Robert F Kennedy it's going to be a great interview um this my first politician that we're going to be interviewing so the goal is to be able to just get an introspective you know look at his mind um his policies his ideas you know I believe that this is actually you know um a great idea for all politicians to do to sit down not With mainstream media sit down with Independent Media right and Independent Media nowadays looks like you know people who have podcast people who
have media um that they run so they can get their questions directly answered and everything is not completely scripted I think you're going to get a real look because if these are the people that's supposed to be leading the country you should know who they are and you should have access to them to talk to them like They are regular people 19 Keys thank you for having me absolutely thank you for being here welome in take a seat yeah we'll follow up maybe you can get a hike in it'll be great if you want to
do it where you hike at I think it's important that we look at Robert F Kennedy because most people are complaining about Trump and Biden and they saying that these are the choice between the two evils we need a president in office who Is going to protect our constitutional rights president Trump appointed a number of Judges that have made it illegal to give race Bas reparations to to anybody who murdered them who killed your uncle right who killed your dad and all the same people that assassinated Martin Luther King and M the government has no
business lying to us they funnel 10 billion a year bribing journalists uh back mailing them and what are your Thoughts on Bill Gates so all of these African countries pressured their people to stop subsistence Agriculture and to switch over to these GMO grains there's about 30 million people who have been pushed into food insecurity because of this and that's all Bill Gates they found out that black children who got a vaccine on time they had a two and a half 2.5 times greater incident of autism than black kids who waited and they were told to
dump their hard drives And all the race-based data into those garbage cans and destroyed if there's an appetite for the truth in this country I will be president this particular election is going to be the most important election throughout human history I appreciate my pops for teaching me how to be a guy from a boy into a man and ultimately back into your natural state of being into a guy as God supposed to always move with that higher self but I Have to be able to execute it having knowledge is not power the execution of
knowledge is power knowledge makes a man unit to be a slave because the only real knowledge you can get is knowledge of [Music] self this is the highest level the highest level is ownership the highest level is power the highest level is sovereignty the highest level is higher consciousness the highest level is we own our own cure Excellence at a very High level not high level a high like that it's time for a high L conversation here for another high conversation High [Music] conversation I want to read something as we get started and I'm sure
you will um know the source of this the very wor secrecy is repent in a free and open society and we are as a people Inherently and historically opposed to secret societies to secret Oaths and to secret proceedings we decided a long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwar to concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify it even today there's little value in opposing the threat of a closed Society by IM imitating its arbitrary restrictions even today there is little value in ensuring the survival of a nation in
our Traditions do not survive With it and there is a grave danger that an announced need for increased Security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand his meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment now I'm not going to read the whole thing but this particular speech is very prophetic right and the America that we have today um we're very over surveillance there is Extreme censorship Today right and American people are not giv information right as to in their belief transparency of who really makes the decisions right I want to ask
you about secrecy and secret societies and sense of you know during the times of 1963-68 right there was four assassinations two whom were family members of yours Malcolm X and Martin Luther King now as we talk about you know the forces that your uncle laid out who do you think that he was speaking to because during the 60s right was one of the most powerful and pivotal times as far as Leaders working to influence the future of America right and it seemed to be you know these forces behind the scenes that some people call Shadow
government some people call manurial class right there's all of these different names for it right but to be The president of the United States and to speak on forces that he believ that he is going to against and when people think about who has the most power often people think that it is the president of the United States so why would he have such a um veiled speech in a manner right about secrecy and secret orders and secret Oaths and secret proceedings right what was he alluding to just so that people know that speech was
my uncle jnf Kennedy yes Sir yeah oh and you know I think he was warning us against the world that we now live in which is uh one of his primary interests was keeping the country out of War and he discovered very quickly into his administration that he was surrounded by uh an intelligence apparatus military brass who considered war with the Soviet Union not only to be inevitable but also to be uh desirable and as quickly as possible because at That point we had a larger um Arsenal than the Soviet Union and they considered what
he did that he he he refused to go into Cuba in ' 61 and then again in in ' 63 during the Cuban Missile crises first with the Bay of Pigs and and the Cuban Missile Crisis and then he refused in ' 62 the opportunity to go to war during the Checkpoint Charlie crisis in Germany when we were at the rink of nuclear war exchange with the Soviet Union um and he uh he kept us out of lows he kept us out of Vietnam he never sent a combat troop to Vietnam and a month before
he died to the day he ordered he signed National Security order 263 ordering all the troops home from Viet all the advisors there were 16,000 advisers that he had sent there they were Green Berets mainly and helicopter people working on their Helicopters they weren't allowed to participate in combat some of them did he found out that 75 Americans had died and he said that's too many and he ordered them all home with National Security order 263 30 days later he was murdered um and I think it was uh you know he was referring to a
group of people who were really robbing us of democracy democracy is about transparency because we own the Government it the government has no business lying to us and now it lies not only lies but hides things every day you see it I mean we saw Congressional hearings this week in which um David Moren who was the the deputy to Anthony fouy is telling had emails in which he was bragging that he had been coached by the Freedom of Information staff by the chief Freedom of Information officer at NIH how to hide his emails how to
destroy them in ways in which he Couldn't caught the the transparency officer at that agency the person who's in charge of making sure there's no secrets was actually coaching high level staffers how to keep secrets and you know of course if government is allowed to keep secrets they're not working for us anymore they're working for somebody else they're either working in their own interest or they're working for some larger interest and um you know I think That is a danger that our democ can be subverted Teddy Roosevelt warned in in 1903 he said American democracy
will never be destroyed by a foreign enemy we're too powerful we've got the oceans between us and any potential enemies where uh we have a very very strong military a huge economy we simply cannot be conquered but our Democratic institutions and all the values of our country will be subverted by what he called malifa Actors of great wealth who will steal them from within and I think there's been a number of presidents my uncle um Deddy Ro Eisenhower who warned us three days before my uncle took the oath of office on January 17th 1961 it
was my uh it was my 7th birthday and uh and I was in Washington I went to my uncle's inauguration 3 days later but President Eisenhower farewell speech made probably the one of the most important speeches in American history Where he warned Americans against the about the emergence of a military industrial complex that would destroy everything that we value as a country my uncle spent three years fighting the military industrial complex he was then murdered a week before or a month before my uncle died he passed its order ordering all troops home from vietn all
military personnel out of Vietnam immediately Johnson remanded that order Johnson then sent 250,000 troops there which was they'd been telling my uncle he had to do he refus um and then my father ran against the war in ' 68 and he was killed he ran he won this state was clear that he was going to win the election he was murdered today was 1968 um he was murdered and then Nixon became president so who murdered them my uncle who killed Your uncle right who killed your dad and all the same people that assassinated Martin Luther
King in malol yeah and and you know most people don't know this but Martin Luther King's family Dexter and and Marty and um and the rest of the family that ketta Scott King who was with me when my dad died and who then you know was on the airplane when we brought my dad's body um home from uh from LA to New York and then she was on the train with us The 7-hour train ride from New York City to Washington DC uh but they sued uh they they did a lawsuit against Martin Luther Kings
that received almost no publicity but the the uh the government conceded that um you know they meaning that they sued the government for assassination of Martin Luther King yeah and one they won that suit a civil suit um the the Congress of the United States you know the warrant commission of course said that you know It was a lone gunman who killed my uncle but the head of the Warren Commission was Alan dullis who was the who had been who was the director of the CIA that my uncle had fired and we now know that
he steered all the questions away from the CIA involvement the CIA was clearly involved I'm attorney or was a prosecutor with the EV and I've read the evidence the evidence that we have now is so voluminous include conf including Confessions of probably 30 people who were involved in his assassination a lot of them deathbed confessions but um that clearly shows that there was CIA involvement Lee Harvey Oswald The New York Times now admits this was a CIA asset since I think 1957 or 58 um and uh and the CIA is still involved in covering up
the the final documents that are legally the government legally is required Congress passed a law saying that by 2018 all Documents related to my uncle's assassination had to be released and the CIA will not allow that to happen president Trump ran in 2016 and said he was going to release them all he got into office and he Chang his mind President Biden made the same promise he got into office and changed his mind why do they change their mind you know what are they hiding uh this is 60 years after the death all most of
the people are now dead what could they possibly Hiding other than some you know protecting institutional reputations at Ty was shot by the by Amed suaro who was the Liberator he was like the George Washington of Indonesia and the CIA when Eisen was President the CIA tried to kill him and he that hated America he he coined the phrase the third world he became kind of a hero across the developing world and but he was extremely anti-American and somebody Asked my uncle President Kennedy about what they were going to do about him and why he
was so anti-American my uncle said well if the CIA tried to kill me I'd be angry and heard that and fell in love with my uncle he invited my father to Indonesia my father ended up negotiating a pieace between Indonesia and the Netherlands and he gave him two live kodo dragons and that Marin tiger that he had Shot and my dad gave that to me when had to sh this over in a big ass car the CIA after my uncle died went and overthrew him killed a million Indonesians D you were running for president as
an independent and the last independent was also assassinated right Abraham Lincoln so you know I've known that I've looked up and they said that they won't give you Secret Service right and you know You move move around right as a presidential candidate and you've talked about the threats upon your life right so how do you feel as far as your own safety of being assassinated with being so Much Death in your family and then the next part of that is if you were elected to be president would you then release the files of Martin Luther
King Malcolm X Robert F Kennedy and John F Kennedy and would you keep that promise which is heart to say to release all Those documents the day yeah that's that's going to be a big D all going to assign an executive order for bidding all federal agents any federal employee from lying to the public and I the executive order is going to say any Federal Officer official who lies to the public in conjunction with his official duties is going to immediately lose his job I'm going to pass another executive order day one um forbidding the
CIA from propagandizing American people ending Operation mocking bur you know which which was it was banned the CIA admitted in 1973 that it had 400 uh reporters under contract the leading reporters and journals in our country they promised to stop doing that they still Le they legally could not do it their Charter forbids them from propagandizing Americans they're allowed to propagandize abroad and the CIA today is the largest funder of Journalism in the world they they funnel 10 billion Dollar a year into um bribing journalists uh blackmailing them they own many newspapers across Europe Africa
Latin America and Asia and they're legally allowed to do it but they're not allowed to do it here but you know but if they spread news that is ran in another country then we pick it up in this country yeah but there also in 2016 Obama changed the rule and allowed them to start propagandizing us again and uh and there's strong you know There's been there's a series articles recently by CIA historians including David talber and Dick Russell that have shown that many of the journals including Daily Beast Rolling Stone now in control of the
CIA the editor you know which was the when I was growing up it was the counterculture critic of the CIA they published the article in in uh by Carl Burstein in 1973 revealing all the CIA involvement in American Journalism uh they are now under control of their editor-in Chief is a guy with with very very strong ties to the National Security Community uh Daily Coast um uh Salon slate probably National Geographic and um and Scientific American but a lot of our journals and then the Washington Post New York Times of these uh these historians have
documented who and exactly how the CIA is doing and a lot of it's obscure but they also Control the social media you know they they uh the arbonet that which was the original internet grid was constructed by DARPA which is which is part of the National Security Community the CIA has a hedge fund an investment fund called inel and inel moved a headquarters to Silicon Valley and they were building Google and Facebook and all of these major social media platforms those platforms all have Huge contracts with the uh security industry or the security apparatus and
um and we know from the Twitter files my lawsuit Kennedy versus Biden from the from the attorney generals in Missouri and Louisiana uh lawsuit Bertha versus Biden we have Discovery in those suits that show that President Biden opened up a portal to the which was run by the FBI to to all of the social media companies and that that portal was used by about a dozen federal agencies Including the CIA including CIS NIH CDC the IRS DHS um and other agencies to censor uh voices on the internet so we have now you know and now
now we're seeing the rise of of uh of artificial intelligence yeah and that's going to give these agencies this extraordinary capacity that's been unknown in human history to control not only um human Communications but also our perception of reality and uh and it's frightening and I think we Need a president in office who is going to protect our constitutional rights who's going to protect our values and to make sure that AI as it grows is a mechanism for the public holding government accountable rather than a a a mechanism for the government to control us and
to surveil us and to you know and to silence the S let me ask you with that being said because you you've laid out a a great case for somebody who has you know experien the trauma that you've Experienced with the government and has a um deep knowledge of the way government works you would imagine someone would be pessimistic about change from the inside right so why is it that you feel that you can become president and make change I think I'm in a better position than anybody to actually um change our government back to
doing What it was supposed to be doing one I have a very very clear uh idea of what America is supposed to look like that we're supposed to be an exemplary democracy we're supposed to be a role model for the rest of the world about this experiment in self-governance have we ever have we ever been that I you know we listen as individuals we never live up to our own ideals where our our job is to continue striving to be perfect humans but none of us ever makes It the question is are you striving to
do it the question America is not whether it's ever lived up to its highest ideals but whether it's been on a trajectory to perfect the union and you know our country has done extraordinary things around the world when we were uh when we were formed as the first modern democracy in the 1780 we were the only democracy in the World by by the Civil War by 1860 there were five democracies and um and you know by the middle by the end of my uncle's term there's 180 democracies around the world so they're all based upon
this idealistic Vision that our framers laid out some of them do it a lot better than others and you know we've progressed as Nation we you know our our constitution promised equality for all but it really only gave equality initially to white Men who own property MH and it became all white men and it be became white men and white women and then gradually you know in the 60s we started forcing other people to to be allowed to participate in our system so we were always kind of a vaguely on a trajectory to live up
to those ideals and I would say since uh you know particularly since the year 2000 we've been going backwards fast and we're We're now morphing into a totalitarian system what I would say we're no longer a democracy we're more of a corporate kleptocracy or a plutocracy which is a war you know War Machine economy that is ruled by an oligarchy and an elite where you know the common people have very very little real say in what happens to our government do you believe that you do you believe because you are Kennedy so if there was
a more like affluent Class of families you I mean America that has social and political influential power it would be the kennedies which one would consider as an American oligarchy right and there has been you know many um what was this an experiment that the young girl did to where she traced back all the lineages of the presidents and found that there was a common bloodline right so as the average person has the belief I can be president right America is this home Where you can dream and become anything you want but we also see
that things are actually ordered in America right do you believe that your background as a Kennedy allow you to relate to the common struggle of the people well let let me answer that in a different way you know other than I didn't know which way you was going to answer it at first yeah you know rather than answer that directly let let me we Do like direct answers though I know you're a politician but yeah well I I I don't really consider myself a politician never been a politician you know I've been I I regard
myself as a truth teller so um rather than laying out for you why I think I can understand a the problem the way that you grew up for example and you know they well I wouldn't have expectation to that yeah well that's what I'm saying let me answer in another Kind of a roundabout way um we lost democracy before in the 1880s and 1890s America a democracy was essentially obliterated in this country and our country was being ruled by a class of Robert Barons what we call Robert Barons now the rockefellas the Fricks the um
the uh the Whitney uh the the uh carnegies the melons who sat on these interlocking Boards of what they call the truss the sugar trust the rail TR the oil trust Etc and at that time in history um uh we didn't have a direct election of senators in our country uh we had the legislators picked the the senator state senators the legislatur were very easy to purchase and these individuals own those legislatur in fact it was it was said at the Pennsylvania legislature that it was the only legislature in the country that was not for
sale because John D Rockefeller owned every member of it and he wouldn't sell any of them and They did what he said and this was true of all of them they were picking the Senators the Senators ran the parties they picked the presidents and and that's the way it was um and there was no income tax at that time so if you had my so John de Rockefeller was paying the same tax as you know as a black man in New York City um something happened there was a progressive movement in the cities which Was
Republican but they were people who were idealistic there was a populist movement in the countryside there was Democratic but was revolutionary and Insurgent it was a series of mck ring journalists who are really good journalists uh Ida Tarbell Upton Sinclair a lot of others they were writing mainly for a magazine called mcclures and they were doing every week exposes on the corruption of government the corruption of the Robert Barons and Everybody in the country at that time red mcclures and then you had a guy from the oligarchy the center of the oligarchy Teddy Rose who
was part of it but he wasn't scared of it and he was idealistic and he ran for president and we restored democracy we we created the first income tax we created so the wealthy people had to pay their share and this was what year this was around 1903 you know the early part Of the century um we passed the Sherman Antitrust Act and we and we broke up Standard Oil which is the biggest company in the world they control probably 80% of the oil on Earth John D rockefellow is richer today than Elon Musk is
comparatively um they uh they created the 40 hour work week they allowed unions to organize they gave women the vote most Importantly in 2 1908 they passed a law that made it illegal for corporations to donate to Federal political candidates but isn't that corporations and they were all part of the oligarchy Teddy Rosell and FDR were part of the oligarchy not to cut but they they cut the they stopped corporations right from doing that but then wasn't there a workaround where corporations essentially were just able to be incorporated and then that's when We get things
like political action committies where they can utilize money to infs that happened in the 70s okay but but they found work what I mean what happened the bad thing that happened the citizens united case which was in 2008 so exactly 100 years after we for ba Federal polit uh corporations from giving to Federal political candidates one century later almost to the day the Supreme Court a very business friendly Supreme Court um issued this decision and citizens united that's and no giving money is a form of free speech and it's protected by the First Amendment and
therefore you can't pass any law restricting it we suddenly had the tsunami of dark money pouring into the Federal process so this year the candidates are going to spend about $15 billion doar the two political parties on this election and they're raising that money Not from Little People they're raising it from Big Shots and those are the only people who get heard now in the political process so I think if we're going to restore American democracy and we're going to end this sort of deep state in this corporate kleptocracy this this this corrupt merger of
state and corporate power that is now oppressing us governing Our Lives turning us into Commodities turn commoditizing our Landscapes our people our Children on the you know to promote the Mercantile interests of of large corporations and that's the only objective of the American experiment is to make corporations richer if we're going to break that up we've got to do something about citizens united the only thing we can really do is a constitutional amendment so I don't tell people I'm going to change that I never tell people I'm going to do something that I don't know
that I can can do I Know I can reform the agencies I know I can reform the CIA because I can do that with pres Presidential Power with um with guidance documents and with uh with um uh executive orders and just personel changes I can do that I don't tell people I can end the corruption because we need to get rid of citizens united but what I'm going to do is I'm going to campaign across the country to get the states each to you know we need 2third Of the states pass laws that say if
all the other states do it then we all agree there's a constitutional amendment to get rid of citizens united and that's what I will do we need to do that if we're going to get our America back ultimately that's what we need to do as long as that money is going in no matter what kind of fix that I make up there the next guy can you know and and the duopoly the Republican Democratic parties are no longer Representing the middle class in this country they don't even to now most melanated Americans in this country
most most melanated Americans in this country right don't believe that they want an America back they want an America forward they want a different type of America in the first place and this is probably where the principal differences become right as far as the way people view America Martin Luther King had once said that there's two sides of America right and you know having a duality of Consciousness myself right being able to web the boys talk about the double Consciousness right so the consciousness of self-awareness and then the consciousness of how white America views you
right but then it's the consciousness of how we view the world so when we utilize terms like our America back it's almost isolating and not a touch in the fact that we say we Don't want it back we want things to change because when we talk about democracy in this country right we never believed that democracy was for us because even when you talk about in the 60s and 7s we was always fighting it right it was always when are we going to get our rights right which should have been established as human rights so
now as we find the things that are most important to us is wealth so that we can decide what we want our future to be Most people that come from where I come from and think like I think are not waiting for the president to change things right you create opportunities and whatever opportunities you create we will get access to those opportunities in the best way that we know how because I believe that that's the best thing that government can do is to provide opportunities and the businesses right and the entrepreneurs they take advantage of
those opportunities but in Today's time people are struggling most people are broke they don't have any money right and the middle class expansion is where I want to kind of get into what your plan is right how do you plan on creating opportunities and new jobs because you talked about AI which means that there's going to have to be a complete reskilling of America at the AI steals the job and there has been reports that shows that black people are disproportionately going to be affected By those jobs right that AI takes first because we are
in that particular labor market so I want to know about your plan of middle class expansion of America first of all let me say one thing about AI it used to be when we talked about AI we thought yeah I mean Elon M famously said e AI first it's going to steal our jobs then it's going to kill us when he said it's going to steal our jobs everybody assumed it was going to be the jobs of bluecollar workers that Were going to be taken and and that it's going to be driving jobs and you
know I think 40% of the jobs in our country involve driving and that those are going to be taken away first and um but what we're in factory jobs of course it can be replaced by robots Etc what we're finding out is that AI is actually taking jobs from white color workers that the people who are most vulnerable are attorneys or accountants Are artists my wife who's a actress you know just came off a strike and that strike was largely centered on AI being able to steal the image of these actors not pay them for
it and you know commoditize their personalities their images steal them actually and that the what we're more and more realizing is that the only jobs that are safe are trades jobs you know if you you're if you're if you're if your toilet breaks in the middle of the night A robot is not going to climb your stairs in your house and come fix it you know there the the roof for the electrician the people who have to go into the crawl spay to fix you know the the um the pipes in your house the electricity
the Carpenters Etc that those are the jobs that um are going to be the most enduring and yet we have stopped training kids to take those jobs right we're not doing shop in high school anymore we're not Doing we're not we're we don't the federal government doesn't give you student loans to go to a trade school the way that it would a fouryear college the four-year College you're bankrupt in the end and your your hopes of ever paying that back are close to zero for most people so you're bankrupting this whole generation you're robbing the
the middle class its vitality and you're not training people the jobs that are Actually going to be able to flourish and to survive AI to endure Ai and one of the things that I'm going to do is I'm going to switch that and I'm going to make sure that people um are have an opportunity learn the trades and um and that uh and that is one way of starting to rebuild the middle class the other I'd say most important thing that we need to do key is to get everybody into a home right now you
know we borrowed all this Money we spent $8 trillion on Wars since 20 uh 2001 in the last 20 years and that money is bankrupting the American middle class and it is systematically the fed and you know all of these uh the control by these corporations is like a pump a sum pump that is pumping money and Equity out of our communities into this new oligarchy of billionaires during Co which was the cig ra they you know president Trump and president Bon shut Down 3.3 million businesses they let Walmart continue they let Amazon continue the
big shots and they made billions but if you were a local buit 41% of blackowned businesses will never reopen I've been to um Lee Harvard Lee which is the a you know a black community in Cleveland and it was poor but it was thriving it were shops everywhere and and I went there six months ago and every shop is boarded up the black banks have all closed There's only 25 black Banks left in our country so there's nobody making loans in these communities for Home Improvement loans and uh and business loans in that Community I
met with black business owners on one of whom owned a sausage company that was famous in the area and um it it was an 80-year-old coming many of these black own businesses that we lost had three generations of equity in them so the three generations sweating Spending money to build a business that was supporting their families but supporting their community and those were wiped out and the the equity has been systematically stripped from black communities in this country home ownership beginning in 2008 but even before that these mushroom loans that collapsed ultimately in 2008 they
were tried first for a decade before that in Black communities and nobody noticed that all of those were being Stripped if you don't have Capital flowing into your community you're going to have crime instead there's a direct correlation and black communities can no longer get capital in this country we need to give people access to Capital then they can pursue their entrepreneurial energies the principal way that people have access to Capital is through home ownership when you you know after World War II when my uncle was President our Country owned half the wealth in the
face of the Earth the American middle class was the greatest economic engine ever devised by humanity and one of the reason is because the the the industrial base of Europe had been leveled during World War II but also the other major factor is that after World War II we got every American into a home we had the GI Bill blacks and whites could afford a home you could back then and we had the highway system that was opening up all This new land back then the price of my home was was typically around the one
year salary what year was this you said well you after World War II we did that by 1960 by the time my uncle was President so that was 15 years after the war we were the richest country in the world and and we the middle class was the base for for American democracy and what happened is if you own a home two things happen one is you you care about your community you care about your Police you care about your fire protection you care about your uh your your schools you go to the PTA meetings
you care about the appearance of your home you care about your neighbors but more importantly you have equity which means you can take a second mortgage on that home and you can borrow money so you have an entrepreneurial impul you want to build a yoga studio you want to build a liquor store you want to build a saloon you want to Build a sporting goods store you can you can get a hold of that money you can bet your house on it and that's what happened you had this incredible ferment and that grew the American
middle class because so many people were starting businesses in this country little businesses and you know during Co Amazon you know I I I've spent most of my life in little towns right so I have a little town it had its own bookstore it sporting good Stores you go into that store and there's a plaque on the wall that first of all my kids would work in those stores in the summer they given them summer jobs they um on they had a plaque on the wall of the store these stores almost all of them of
gratitude from the local Boy Scout Troop from the the Little League teams they paid for my kids hockey uniforms they paid for their little league uniforms Amazon's not doing that and They were paying taxes so that when I spent money there I was spending more than I spend at Amazon but that money was recirculating in my community all the time so it was benefit fting me even after I spent that buck it was helping me because that guy was going to hire my kid in the summer and pay for my the hockey uniforms and I
cared about the community now that guy is gone Amazon Amazon is not paying local taxes in Harvard Le or anywhere um but you Think okay at least they're paying federal taxes no last year you know how many how many dollars Amazon spent on on Federal taxes zero so they're just they're doing it right in front of us they're strip mining the wealth from the American middle class from the poor people that Working Poor in this country they're moving it upward to this new oligarchy of billionaires earning the 500 Days of lockdowns President Biden president Trump
created a billionaire a day oh 500 billionaires in 500 days and they impoverished our country and the the desperation the violence that you see now is really a reaction to that you know to the theft that people understand at one level or another is happening systematically to them so you thinking about middle class expansion you talked about trades right now I know this you know gen Z and the other Generations They don't want to be plumbers they don't want trades right America is hyper demoralized and you know a lot of the physicality that which comes
from more so you know the psychology of a man right he's going to utilize his hands to build to create to do things the generation let's just be honest is a little more have the psychology of you know to be more feminine right when you think about the different archetypes right that now represents the Males of America today is more of you know as they say beta Mill right a lot of the views on masculinity from from a young male perspective are not positive so you push the ideas of like toxic masculinity without giving a
representation of mature masculinity or what you would consider healthy so the young boys and today's time want to be more gender fluid if you will they don't see themselves as men because there's also Not many rights of Passage and the media that doesn't give them that many representations when I say media I'm talking about entertainment industry Hollywood etc etc right of the type of man that they would want to become and then just the Social Circles of influence on social media within itself this is why you get popular you know um people who rise and
take that position is like a father figure and That may be controversial but the young men feel like they don't get leadership anywhere else so they're going to be more prone to follow those type of examples if you telling somebody be a man this how you get a woman this how you get respected this how you become more confident this how you get money when the rest of society is saying being a man is the issue with the World so there going to be a natural Defiance that goes with that chis creates a natural Alliance
to people who push it talking and walking but at the same time the things that they want to do right are you know involving so-called passion Pursuits and things of that nature 50% of high schoolers have said that they want to be influencers right they want to utilize social media but at the same time it's Very hard to build wealth on social media there's constant increased censorship right platform um algorithms are constantly changing and when it comes to job creation and you know reskilling America America that's going to have to go into number one education
right because schools are not teaching relevant things for children to learn right in the first place they should come out of high school ready for the world right and if they want to pursue Additional education they shouldn't have to go into debt to do it because half of black wealth is lost to college debt so we even know that we're taught you know there is a direct correlation between education and wealth this is why we see Asian families have the highest gross and income right right then it's Jewish then it's white then it's black right
but as black and white we always compare ourselves to each other but one of the issues that we have is a lack of family That's going to start from neighborhoods and having opportunities right because creativity minus opportunity is going to lead to criminality as well there's a lot of energy that this youth have and they have nowhere to put it in this world the anxiety that they getting about the future is constantly increasing because the average American don't know what the future America is so now you go to the poor class and ask them what's
their future they don't even Have the ability to think of the future so when I ask about the middle class expansion I want to know really about your in-depth understanding about job creation as far as like where is the opportunities going to come from for the the average American and there's going to have to be some direct correlation between laws because the laws are set up right now for all the wealth to be concentrated at the top right so where is how is that going to change where a Person be like I understand why I'm
going vote for RFK we about to get some wealth we about to get some money I see a bright future there right and it has to be some sort of action plan to where it be like all right number one he sounds like he understands the the poor middle class America right and there's a there's a big job right of changing things within four years number one not sure if that's ever possible but that's the America is set up right give another Guy a shot every four years but when I want you to go a
little more in depth and if you can show people right your highlevel ability right to as a businessman because I know you are a lawyer an Environmental Lawyer and I want to get into some of the beautiful positive things that you've done America as a corporation you're going to be CEO right so I want to know your business plan for America as far as job creation and you know skill development because Americans do not know what to do next and the IQ of this generation for the first time has been shown to decrease right as
they scale and they look at the IQ of generations every year this generation is not as smart but we have more access to tours than ever before right so where's your plan when it comes to taking wealth and concentrating it towards the bottom so that people can see growth otherwise black Americans that start make money they look at Republicans and say well I want want money so they go tax incentivized we look at Democrats and say well I'm tired of giving loyalty to Democrats because even though we vote for them every year because they tell
us that you know um it's lesser of the two evils we rather choose Revolution and for most people Revolution is no vote so how do you then convince those people you're going to reunite the people under a plan to make more people patriotic again and in order To do that they're going to have to believe in a country and they're going to have to believe in a leader that can lead the country to Prosperity um let me make a couple of points and answer your question one is um just a footnote is you talked about
gen gen Z and Millennials who want jobs essentially his computer technicians or those are the first jobs that are going to disappear now um there's a lot of Entrepreneurial opportunities that are available in the internet for influencers and uh and start small businesses this is one of the reasons I've Expos I've I've opposed the abolition of Tik Tock because there's hundreds of thousands of kids now that are making money it's a Gateway for them and we need to keep those opportunities and also I'm just against any kind of incursions on Free Speech I think that's
critical the free flow of information is Critical to the survival of our and the flourishing of our democracy um my father in 1966 he was Senator of New York his brother was killed in ' 63 he ran for Senate in New York in ' 64 he was shattered he ran for Senate um he walked in 1966 through the poorest community in New York which is bed Bedford steenson in Brooklyn and he saw something in that Community that inspired him which was it was an unusual Community because of all the indish of urban poverty it it
was beating the nation you know I mean there there there place like Oakland and wads and and Southside of Chicago that were in the same shape but there was a high crime High you know the high duration in families low graduation rates all the things that you associated with Poverty but there was something unusual on bedside which was there was a very high percentage of home ownership of and and most of the communities black communities in this country the homes in those communities are absentee owned they're owned by landlords who do not live in those
communities and that is sucking money out of those communities but beny there were people who had lived in houses there since the American Civil War and They were on and they were proud of their Community there were there was he saw that there was you know the houses were although they were humble they were painted the front doors were painted people were on the Stoops people had a feeling of community they were FL flow pots that had flowers they cared about their community and the the problem is that they they didn't have access to Capital
is that you know there were no banks there that would loan money they Were redlined by insurance companies they were redlined by the bank so that if you wanted to improve your home you couldn't do that you couldn't get a home improvement loan and my and there there was also a problem in those communities where there was no ACR business knowledge so my father wasn't in business but his father his father was and he had gone to Harvard and he knew people were in Business so if he ever wanted to start a business he could
call up a friend and say how do you do inventories how do you pay your taxes who what what kind of accountant should I hire and all of these you know all of the questions that you would need to answer he had friends who could help him but in those communities they were on their own so my father went back to bedy and he went back again and again and again and He said this is going to be my life's project of figuring out what works a rebuild a community not to not to impose things
from outside but to allow people the opportunity to follow their own you know impulses for self-improvement for entrepreneurship and he began leaning on the banks to to end the red lining in that Community those communities and then he brought business leaders he brought Andre Mayer the the CEO of of Lazard fra he brought Tom Watson the CEO of of IBM and many many other Big Wall Street billionaires and he got them to each commit one day a month or one day a week to spend in bed side meeting with local leaders teaching them how to
run business when he walked through that Community there were hundreds of stores they were all boarded up on Fulton Street um Arthur Singer when he wrote his biography my father after my father's death Said when my father was not at home with his 11 kids that the one place he wanted to be more than any other was bedstein in Brooklyn and he fell in love with that community and he built a restoration Plaza which was an old milk dairy plant bottling plant um and he made it to centerpiece we and when he died in '
68 I took his place on the board and I I served on that board for almost 40 years and today if you walk through down Folton Street or Atlantic Avenue every storefront is buzzing and there is Commerce that is spilling out onto the sidewalks these are black own businesses largely and it it became what he he started what he called a Community Development Corporation he started it as a model there's now 2,000 of them around the country based upon what we were able to accomplish in B ey so I feel like I have a really
good idea about how to restore these communities in ways that's Not top down but in ways that funs capital in the community and knowledge business knowledge to allow people in those communities to take care of themselves and to LIF themselves and you know I was know the I think the liberal ideology today is that we have to stop racism by censoring people by uh can't insing people by uh by teaching people not to be racist Etc to me that's a dead end racism is just Part of you know of tribalism America but not just America
you know it's the 20,000 Generations that Humanity's been wandering the African Savannah and little tribal groups Waring with anybody who didn't look like them right but that wasn't racism hardwired it's kind of hardwired but white is like a specific customization of the American complex yeah but and it's but it's it's ultimately an much older impulse in America it's everywhere in it's tribalism and it was more I would say classism in different eras right because even when you go to places where the Moors thrive in you know they were teaching Europeans they were so-called Africans and
Europeans getting along in of different colors right and then Noble classes and things of that nature but when we look at like I heard Jordan Peterson talk about the so-called mythal white supremacy or white privilege which To me is a fcy in on his face because the word white is a privilege itself right because white is a construct that unifies a certain people because if you go back to bacon Rebellion then it speaks on how you keep people divided right and so for me it's a systematic creation by those who are wealthy the government the
1% however you want to look at it right to create a privilege that creates a commonality so that they don't see that hey you in the poor class They up there instead we're divided by all of these different titles so that the people never look at it it's the people and then it's the system right so the word white itself is a privilege right okay you know just based on construct rules because it didn't exist before a certain time yeah I that it's an argument that we probably aren't going to resolve here and that I
don't try to resolve it the other whether it's America or Not how what do we do an was raised in the 1960 my uncle was the um first Irish Catholic President of the United States there was tremendous uh uh anti- Catholic Prejudice then the Klux Clan had a Resurgence during his election there was it was a huge issue should can a Catholic ever be allowed to serve as presidency I was called names when I was a kid a mackerel snatcher Mick all of these you know derogatory Names when people called me that I never internalize
it I would think that guy's got a problem that guy's weird because he's saying that to me I never thought oh I'm inferior I'm you know and the reason for that was because I had confidence because I had an education I had connections in my family I had a strong family a strong faith and a belief in my country a belief in my future I was confident about my future so so Prejudice had no impact on Me and and that is to me the gift that we need to give to every black kid in this
country that if somebody if they do encounter bigotry in their lives that they're not affected by it they don't internalize it they have so much confidence in themselves as men as women that they are unaffected by racism and and the only way we're going to do that we have to do two things to do that one is we have to fix our educational system which we need to do me through education Through charter schools by offering people the opportunity if their school is not working for their kids that they can take their kids out and
they can put them in a school that does that every kid and you know there's these schools in New York now um Success Academy and a number of others that are taking kids out of black communities and they take them by Lottery right they're not kids who were you know had special parents who made The effort are chosen by Lottery and they those schools are outperforming the best high schools in New York Scarsdale High School have a higher graduation rate than scar high school so it's not you know the the poor performance in education has
nothing to do with background culture poverty race color uh melanin their skin it's absolutely has everything to do with bad schools right and the way our school system has run we can't do That anymore we need to fix the schools and the way we can fix them is through a market which allows a parent that doesn't say a parent wait wait another 10 years till we fix these schools you can't tell that to people you have to say you can take your cut Che K if this school isn't working for you and you can move
them to a kid a school that does number one number two Capital we do not black communities have systematically been stripped of their equity and Therefore their access to Capital in a million different ways it's systematic it's happening today it's happening all the time and that's what and I saw it work key I saw it work in B diey we can make that work across the country and that you know is my program um which is targeted Community repair for poor communities all over this country not only black but white you know and so and
that that's now there's other things we have to fix That's specifically relate to Black communities and the the biggest thing is the school to prison Pipeline and that is a direct result of two laws that were passed and President Biden was you know was involved in both of them in 1986 the um the Drug Act that we passed in 1986 um then the Omnibus crime bill in 94 uh Biden wrote both of them and and Clinton the people who were supposed to be friends of the black community would would actually did the most dtive Things
to the black community MH that the the on 1986 Drug Act the biggest thing the worst thing it did it made crack cocaine it gave crack cocaine a 100 times the prison penalties as powder cocaine a white kid in the suburbs who got busted for powder cocaine got 100 times the prison exposure as a black kid living a couple of miles away okay and then 94 the Omnibus crime bill which had the super predator Provisions in it it had mandatory sentencing it had uh three Strikes you're out those two bills in eight years doubled the
black prison population so the rate of black imprisonment from the Civil War till 1986 was pretty constant after 1986 it increased it doubled and you now have you know one out of every four black men who have been Expos at one time or another to the prison system and when you we do that you get hit again because now year you have a record and you can't participate In the you can't get a job right you can't get a decent job and you can't participate in the political process in many states you're disenfranchising and you
know we need to immediately act on that uh by by either giving pardons or stripping the records of all the people who were convicted of nonviolent crimes particularly drug crimes a lot of these are marijuana you know and and minor drug offenses they shouldn't have a criminal Record you know drug addiction as I know I was a heroin addict for 14 years it's a it's a disease it's a uh and it's it's something that we have to address through treatment options and not through incarceration and permanent lifetime punishment that sends you back into that destructive
cycle oh those are the things that I think you know in answer your question those are the things that we need to be focusing on to rather Than I think some of the you know the the sort of more ephemeral you know things that that I think liberal Doctrine is now telling us about that we need to be focusing on the economic issues and and removing the stigma of prison and stopping I mean you know one of the things is that if you get suspended from school or you get school discipline that goes on your
prison record people are seeing that for the rest of Your life you know and you don't in a white community that doesn't happen to you and but you are branded from when you're a kid as a as a troublemaker as a criminal and it's uh and that is one of the biggest anchors that on on the on the growth and the and the robustness and the and the you know the success of the black community in this country if you take all the men out of the black community which is what happening Systematically um you're
you're going to destroy that community and it has been systematically destroyed 100% um and it gets me to think about you know the 13th Amendment that you know once you become a prisoner you become a slave so black Americans often view that as you know just another route to slavery that never ended so our community has been disproportionately affected by that for the last 500 years and we're still going through it because I got a brother in Prison right now I got a younger brother that's in jail right now so it's the aces the adverse
childhood experiences right that changes your trajectory towards life and it's not even just the schooling right when you go up either lack of Father lack of proper education and you go up in a household where you experience all these different levels of trauma my adversity is going to be completely different than the average person so now I have a lot more to get Over for trauma for some people it would turn you into you know um a hyper achiever right and other people makes them collapse inside themselves what do you think how loud to you
to come out of um that environment you think it was your Early Education your parents without that you know with a really clear idea of who you are and you know what it means to Be oh man oh that's a good question I think about it a lot because I got seven brothers I grew up in Oakland and St Louis and a lot of people that grew up in the same exact environments as I did didn't survive most of them 90% of them I would say are dead jail disease homeless on drugs so it's like
even when I go back Hometown there's almost nobody to visit the people from my childhood are no longer there so for me I think I have an Outlier mentality at the same time I got a growth mindset you know growing up in a black Muslim environment being taught how to be a soldier right taking things as challenges versus looking at them as problems that's happening to me you know being taught that I was a god developing that complex of thinking you know I just always looked at everything you know as something that was growing me
for this ultimate destiny yeah so I would say More than anything it's the mindset that I observed from men that I respected and the ideals that I got from honorable Elijah Muhammad honorable M Lis Farhan but then you know there's other people that got those same ideas but they didn't fear as well that's why you there's a part of it to where I can't generalize it on the rest of society because everybody don't have that outlier Mentality right I feel like I was blessed with a certain idea about myself and a certain self-image and I
made a choice at a very young age that my life meant more I didn't been in times where I didn't been in shootouts and the Very thought in my mind and I'm talking about in high school I'm like I'm Not Gon to die right here because I'm destined for something more right these are things that stuck with me throughout my whole life to Where I had to always figure out how do I make sense of what I'm going through how do I transmute that into something else and so a part of that is a demonstration
of seeing man seeing what's possible right self-education because I never finished college but I never stopped learning right and then focusing on developing a superior mindset and asking myself you know what does it mean to be a man I constantly take myself through the right Of passage to become a man cuz I never never just assume that just because I reach a certain age I'm a man I always thought about the trials and tribulations and the self-development and the values and the principles that it takes to be a man and so as I accomplish those
throughout different periods in life that's when I can get myself credit like all right I see you growing but everybody don't have that Because everybody needs on AR range properly you know I gotta vast thesis about how when you grow up in certain environments and you're not told that you are are significant you're not told you're not giving credit for your efforts you're not shown love you miss those needs of like significance so when you grow up you need that more you need love more so you seek that in different places that ain't Good for
you me I never sought that I never felt like I needed more of my father's love I never felt like I needed more of my mother's love I felt like I needed to grow and I needed to challenge myself and accomplish something in life so I don't think everybody has that some people they they seek I need people to see me for who I am I need I need to be a part of something I was always I'mma build it if I don't see it I was always well if you told me I'm n that
means I Can do this so [ __ ] I'mma get it done so you know that's a mindset [ __ ] and that comes from expansion like I mean through exposure and so the beauty of my whole entire life is I've been exposed to different perspectives I'm having this conversation with you because I'm always seeking different perspectives the whole point of high LEL conversations is to provide exposure that allows people to think and I believe a thinking man is a Real free man so when we look at who which group has you know the statistics
in America from cancer to violence right seconded suicide you know uh gun violence prison of course that's black mes right so for me if I was to look at a way to make America better you have to look at the people who's affected by the worst statistics in America now we are in the middle of mental health month right and with black men having such Skyrocket Mental health issues in America if you want to begin to fix the issue right you have to first deal with the mind and that means there has to be especially
when you talk about prison reform right and you have to decrease the incentivization for these corporations right to do things that keep black men specifically going to prison because if you don't decrease that corporate incentivization then there's always going to be mechanisms right where People figure out how to make a profit right and black bodies are seen for mechanisms of profit they always have so for me it's like there has to be new laws and new components of people of everything that you just laid down was a beautiful case right of all of the adversities
and atrocities that black men or the black community have faced of this is why America has to focus on all right what do we give back to this community for the red lining right for The Tuskegee for all of those different things but there's never been compensation the numbers of black Farmers that have lost their land right it's it it gets up to $300 billion right when you look at the amount of land that is owned by black people today is minuscule in comparison to whites today and when we look at the opportunities that were
given back in the day because there's a lot of it is correction when we talk about equality just like giv and Everybody the same thing but when you start from a deficit already so it's Equity versus equality and then that's when how do we go and fix the things right that have been broken specifically by America and so I look at Governor Gavin Newsome and he laid out a um a reparations task force and the reparations task force wasn't even about slavery it was about everything that happened in the last 100 years right that has
caused this stress and this Trauma on the community and how black people were deserving right of compensation for those things and it's not something that black people going ever give up like we just don't get our reparations that would be a stain on America's moral system forever and that Karma cycle will never end until that part particular thing is fixed so I would say first you know mental health clinics Dr Amos which is somebody that I I listen To he had a TED Talk and he was talking about how we talk about mental health but
it's really brain health right how trauma changes the brain right so if you wanted to go into black communities and you wanted to help black men you would put a lot of these facilities right that are able to get you these brain scans to see where this trauma is and then they put you on a brain program to help fix you because there's one thing to give a person an opportunity but when your mind Is already messed up you can't even focus to take the opportunity because you're cycling on the problems that you just went
through right and so we are Generations in right we're not a generation as you get to start fresh and let's move forward it's like there's a lot of things that have to be fixed and poverty induc stress and Trauma right creates this cycle of different health effects to where you have all of these issues and then you can't even afford to Go get them fixed say you don't have money so the very thing that causes your problem keeps you in the cycle of the problem you talk about you know um medical racism right um and
we dealt with there's environmental racism in the sense that if you look at some of the ZIP codes in America some of the worst you know air quality right or where there black populations so there's so many different things that we have to fix and I believe the the quality of Solution has to be based on the depth of awareness of the problem right so for me I look at it in in multiple ways but going and just fixing the education system is one thing but fixing that family system right has a a deeper understanding
and I don't believe I don't think that there's no candidate that's going to address it what I believe is let me let me let me let me pin a point okay what I believe is the smartest thing that a candidate can do Especially when it comes to the black community is to directly work with grassroot organizations that's already fixing a problem that needs funding right America usually chooses to say one side of Black America is safe you're going to see who gets invited to the White House who they work with blah blah blah but it's
usually the radicals that create the most change right and so there has to be a different approach because there too Much bureaucracy when it comes to change that they do all this R&D they throw all this money right but we don't see any change and that's because they're not connected to the people that actually make a difference right and so it would really be saying that would you be willing right to then allocate those funds to people who actually doing the work because I don't expect RFK because you're going to have if you were elected
you would have a plethora of problems Right and so your office in your cabinet rather would have to be filled of people who know live experience and S those problems so there's direct allocation and budget to people right or or the Brain Trust of Black America that knows how to solve his own problems because we not looking for a savior right the goal is to help us save ourselves and usually that looks like getting out our way right because naturally we're always fighting to better ourselves we're not Victims right but we're fighting multiple Wars while
trying to recover from the last one yeah so let let me just tell you how how I think about this um I you know been an environmental attorney for 40 years my first case and and my primary object uh Focus for much of that time was on environmental racism and I spent 20% of my time representing um indigen American Indians uh in Canada the United States and Latin America um in treaty negotiations and litigation um addressing lot of the issues that you just talked about affecting black community my first case as an environmental lawyer was
representing the NAACP in a um trying to stop a ways transfer facility that was being cited in the oldest black community in the Hudson Valley in ausy New York and um and I won that case and but I I I learned a lot during that case that you know because This was a middle class Community it wasn't poor but it was being placed there because they didn't have the political power to kick it somewhere else and this is true all over all over um in my experience and I'll give you some examples what I learned
then is that four out of every five toxic waste umps in America is in a black neighborhood the largest toxic waste ump in America is Amal Alabama which is 85% black the Highest concentration of uncontrolled toxic waste on America is the southside of Chicago the most contaminated zip code in California is East LA um there are you know probably the one of the biggest Health crisis in this country is 44% of urban black children have led contamination yeah my brothers have lay contamination yeah and that you know that is that that is r with causes
all kinds of learning disabilities that put you at disadvantage for and behavioral Disabilities and violence and all of these I sued um the city of New York one time the city of New York has three Water Systems it has the Delaware system which comes from the Catskill Mountains the Catskill system which comes from the Catskills pristine water and then it has a very bad water system called the croin system that's coming from a heavily populated area in westest putam County there are 102 sewer plants dumping into that Water and I as New York City show
me the distribution Maps let's see who's getting the bad water and I that for a year they refused this is long before 911 but they said it's National Security it was just a baloney um answer finally on the courthouse steps they gave me the distribution maps and I saw that the bad water was going to Harlem South Bronx Lower East Side Hell's Kitchen right they were poor communities but mainly communities of Color on the Upper East Side coming down from Harlem there was a little tiny dot in the see that the the croin distribution was
was colored dark on these Maps there was a little tiny like one house that was getting good water from Catskills I had to get out of magnifying glass and look at it and it turned out to be Gracie Mansion which was the mayor's house so they put special pipes into the mayor's house to give him the water but all of the Communities around them were bad so I saw this from the beginning of my career I knew about you know that um about medical racism already my aunt ended the Tuskegee experiment as you know Tuskegee
experiment started in 1972 and they took 600 black men um 400 of them had CIS they didn't tell them they had CIS they they bribed them by saying we're going to give you free hot meals and they were share propers from Alabama and then for 40 years they Didn't treat them because they wanted to see a syphilis was always treated with Mercury and they didn't know whether the people were actually dying of mercury poisoning or whether we they're dying of syphilis they didn't know what actually what syphus did to you if you just let it
go they wanted to figure it out so they decided to get these guys not treat them so this is in 1932 in 1940 a lot of those Sher cbers tried to join the US Military and the CDC went to the military and said don't Happ because when you go into the military the first thing they do is they give you what's called a short arm INSP action where they check you for syphilis and then they cure you and CDC didn't want them treated and so they weren't allowed to join the military they didn't know why
their their uh their applications were refused and then in 1947 penicillin was invented and it became a treatment that could knock out Zilis in 5 days and they made sure none of them got access to them and they kept it going till 1972 when there was a plaque on Public Health Service official name uh William Jenkins who went to my uncle's office and another white man called Peter buckton they told my Uncle about it he had hearings in 72 and he put an end to it so I was very aware that on the the medical
and invironmental that you know black communities were systematically Being um uh victimized and I spent you know much of my life dealing with this now today you made a really important point which is the health impacts in Black communities one of the reasons for that is these are food deserts they're getting bad food they processed food and they're being Mass poisoned by it we right now when my uncle was President 6% of Americans said chronic disease today 60% to and the amount with black Americans is much higher and they're Getting they're that that level is
going up because of mass poisoning because of pro there's a thousand ingredients in our food yeah that are illegal in Europe um the autism rates have gone in from um from one one in 10,000 in my generation so today 70y old men one in 10,000 is autism a kids generation it's one in every 34 kids according to CDC one in every 22 boys and it's higher in Black communities and and during covid we at the highest death rate in Our country of any community in of any country in the world we had 16% of the
covid deaths and we only have 4 4.2% of the world population and the highest levels were American Indians with um and then the second highest were American blacks American blacks were dying of covid at a rate of about 3500 3,200 per million population in 0 80 miles south of of Florida the death rate was 14 people per million population They don't have good food I mean they don't have a lot of food but they don't get the processed food the processed food is what is poisoning us and the Medicaid the Pharmaceuticals and um and so
you know my solution to that is one I'm going to get NIH to stop making drugs to treat these treat chronic disease and and instruct them you know spend their their budget $42 billion budget finding out exactly the contaminants that are Causing and then eliminating them I'm also my big Peace Corp program my uncle started the Peace score he started the space program my space program my P score program is going to be um Wellness Farms Rehabilitation Facilities that I'm going to start in rural areas all over the country um where people any American can
go for free any of them who is dependent on drugs either legal drugs or illegal drugs Psych iatric drugs which every Black kid is now just standard put on Aderall um ssris benzos which are known to induce violence and and those kids are going to have a chance to go somewhere and get reparented to live in a community where there'll be no cell phones no screens you'll actually have to talk to people and the Bas is the model for this is a community that I had Direct contact with because a family member of mine went
there and it's called San padanos In in Italy that communities at 10,000 Acre Farm and they grow organic food so the kids eat very very good food for the first time in their lives they have a bakery and the kids work in the bakery they work in um a Furniture Factory they have an apparel Factory they have a wallpaper Factory they learn a skill they learn a trade and and they can stay as long as they want for free and when they leave their place in A job but they're taught how to be responsible how
to tell the truth how to show up on time how to be reliable how to be a a a caring member of a community to reconnect so many of our kids today are alienated they're they're dispossessed they have no hope for their future and they're the suicide rates are astronomical black kids now it's say it's have the highest rate of suicide and um and it's it's one of the highest Cause of death among black you we need to give kids back again hope in hope in our country hope in their Futures but also a a
feeling of community and an understanding about how to live in those communities now I went to um a there there this model is an extraordinary model and my relative who went there had um lost all Her diagnosis and she came out of there an extraordinary person and lives a thriving life now um But I visited recently a another program in an urban area that's modeled on that in Salt Lake recently and it's called the other side it has three 300 convicts also drug addicts who who go there and they it's the same model and and
if you when you go in they all own a storage facility the biggest storage facility in Utah they own the biggest um uh uh store uh Transportation Company you know they move houses move move you Out of your home Etc and they own a um uh used clothing uh store that is bigger than a Walmart and they work in there they learn how to show up on time how to cash a check how to keep a bank account how to be a reliable person how to tell the truth and at first when they first started
this they told me they had a hard time placing people in jobs but now there's a list when you go in on the wall of all the corporations in Utah Hundreds of them that are dying to hire people from this program because the people come out of there and they're extraordinarily productive workers so they get a second chance of Life they get reparented they understand how to have relationships how of intimacy out of be honest out of all these work skills you know to to take care of themselves to to uh to Steward themselves and
their own lives they're given sovereignty over Their lives I'm I'm going to start these right now the biggest industry in in rural areas in this country is prisons they're now mainly private prisons which are a crime against humanity and they're doing what you're saying they're monetizing human misery right and they're not spitting out graduates who are now thriving they're spit spinning out recidivist who are going to be back a year later and um and they're they're factories for abuse and uh and you know They're not it's not a mechanism for creating wholesome communities and belief
in our country and love for our country and love for our communities and that's what we need to start doing and the people who are in there because they're convicted of drugs should not be in those facilities they should be in a place where they're getting treatment um where they're getting training where they're getting job Training Life Training and and spiritual enlightenment spiritual enrichment because that ultimately we have to be a to induce in people who have who are enveloped in despair we have to be able to induce in them profound spiritual realignments so that
they're living on another plane so that they understand that there's that God is out there that he's watching them that he loves them and that um and that they have hope for their lives and um And you know that that is going to be my major program when I get into the White House is to reclaim all these people who have been lost thank you for that answer reparations the Big R right how do the African descenders of slaves right finally reap this finally collect right what was promised but never given so you know you
mentioned the black Farmers recently that there's A different issue with black farmers and the black Farmers actually you know I had on my podcast the head of the black farming associ black Farmers Farmers Association recently and um and what happened to Black Farmers is there was a loan program you just mentioned this but I'm going to tell people the whole story there was a loan program in the USDA that program said um if you a small farmer and you meet certain metrics you Are entitled to these government grants and government loans they're two two different
programs a black Farmers the guy who was running that program for decades was just an over racist and that the waiting room would be filled with black farmers who were waiting to apply they would never be given a loan they would watch white Farmers go in cut line in front of them and pick up checks and leave in in one Minute and ultimately the black Farm Association sued the USDA they revealed this they had a jury trial and they Quantified exactly how much money had been lost to Black Farmers that they were entitled to during
that period and they never got it was around $500 billion that they were deprived of and the court awarded them that money because you're suing a Fed they were suing a federal agency Congress now Has to appropriate that money and the money was owed them it was promised them it was not you know uh it was not a classic reparation for some um for some uh for for injuries that were vague they were they were they were absolutely targeted and known and the amount that was lost was known and what I've said and con has
refused to appropriate the money so what I've said as president I'm going to fight to make sure that money gets Appropriated to that group in terms of reparations for slavery and for Jim Crow which I witnessed I grew up in the state um where a black man at a time where a black man could not marry a white woman or vice versa where um you know I had a a guy who was working for my family was said black man come here white woman or e or vice versa or white man man marry a black
woman or whatever I don't think that's the there was no interracial marriage other words interracial Marriage was illegal in Virginia both both parties would be arrested um and then all the other you know Transportation um housing uh public parks uh prisons were segregated by law um metal institutions were segregated by law but also I you know I had a a guy who worked for my family who I was very close to was like a mentor to me growing up I would go hunting and F he taught me to hunt and Fish he was a black
man who had um who had been served in World War II in the Pacific he was about 6 fo five he was an incredible dignified very smart guy and he would take me hunting in Virginia and you know from when I was a little kid and whenever we drove across the countryside we would stop at restaurants and I would go in and get lunch for us and then I would bring it out and eat it in the car and I didn't understand it that time Until years later why it had to be like that but
that's what happened and then I remember one occasion he asked me to come into town with them to a little village where we live near called Salon Village and to go into a store and and buy shoes for them because black men were not black people were not allowed into the shoe store and once they tried on the shoe they sh tried it on the on the curb on the sidewalk outside the store so they had to know their Size and if the shoe didn't fit they couldn't return it and that and when I was
growing up I I I remember so many of the black people that I met had corn on corns on their feet because of this rule because they they couldn't find a shoe that fit them and they would often times you'd see black people with the sides of the shoes cut out because their corns it was the only way that they could you know deal with the pain from their corns and I didn't Understand that at that age but I did know that I had to go buy him shoes when when he wanted shoes so I
saw you know the Injustice when I was a kid and you know I I'm very proud that my the role that my my father played and my uncle played in ending that system of of Jim grow which was kept in place through unofficial intimidation and official laws the jimc laws that made it uh almost impossible for um blacks to participate in the political Process to exercise their right to vote and you know I'm very proud that my family partnering with Dr Kain played a key role in making this country for the first time in history
a a true constitutional democracy I understand the moral um justification for reparations I don't tell people that I'm going to get reparations um people who do that are lying and particularly and you know it's very easy for Gavin Nome To appoint a commission that's what politicians do and they don't intend to do anything but they want to satisfy the demands of the constituency that commission is going to do nothing ultimately and none of them will and the reason for that is that the reason they won't do anything is because president Trump appointed a number of
Judges particularly the Supreme Court that um that have made it illegal to give race base reparations to um to Anybody and uh and and you know they judge Roberts throughout the wrote the decision in the Harvard case which is dispositive now it is now constitutional law that says any kind of race based benefits are um even in uh response to past bigotry to past presence to P past deprivation are illegal under the Constitution well I don't tell people I'm going to do that because I don't tell people that I'm going to do things that I
don't believe that I'll be able To accomplish what I say is I have a program which is a you know a program which we call targeted Community repair where I am going to uh funnel and incentivize the transfers of capital to these communities so that um so that they can rebuild themselves so no reparations when when I hear race-based reparations right when we think about slavery when somebody say you want reparations for Slavery they didn't say you know reparations just for black people they saying families that can be traced back their lineage for slavery right
right that's not specific to say race-based reparations but for those who were injured of course right and whose family lineage right were slaves and there is documentation in this country to be able to trace back lineage right and I believe that you know the same way Donald Trump went in there and changed Things if you're president then you have power to change things as well okay well let me answer that because the question that you initially asked you you specifically said not just for slavery but for all of the systematic injuries and the the system
well yeah not just for but right well thaten just happen to be the people right we just happen to be the people who they're going to be given to but if we don't have to put black on there just say descendants of slaves oh Yeah but but but you would originally ask the question about that addressed all of the sub subsequent right iation Proclamation additional cases the subsequent systematic stripping of wealth from black communities in this country because after slavery there was a lot of wealth in this country black communities you know to uh Black
Wall Street and tson there were Black Wall Streets all over our country at that time that were systematically Destroyed um and uh and and what I'm saying is that cannot be addressed okay you could constitutionally give people reparations for slavery and you know the case that probably the strongest case for that is the reparations that were given to Japanese after um uh whose whose property was stripped from them during World War II and then Jewish people as well in in what case uh through Israel through America funding Israel oh well That yeah that's that that's
not that is not nobody calls that reparation call it but however it needs to get done I don't think we married to the the worry we we married to the rewards of getting the compensation yeah what I I would say is that um slavery Legacy the legacy of people who can show their slaves and that you could technically bring a case and on that issue those are Americans right and that constitutionally it would be Permissible but then you would have to get Congress to um to appropriate that money and what I my own experience as
I just related to you with the black Farm s is even when it is a specific Quantified with a jury trial giving an award for specific money that was stolen even then a direct provable Injustice to specific people even then Congress won't appropriate the money oh you know what I'm saying is that yeah you Could you can you can do that heavy lift somebody could bring that lawsuit it wouldn't be the president it would be somebody bringing that lawsuit and then the president could say here's a bill and I'm going to put out and make
sure that that judgment gets paid and then you would have to get it through Congress and I'm telling you that that um is uh I I don't believe that that is going to happen you we Can't even get Congress to appropriate the money for those farmers who were you know who with Injustice those specific individuals not to their ancestors but to them in particular at Congress still won't do it so what I'm trying to do and I do this not with a black with every Community I don't tell people things that they want to hear
I tell people things that I know that I can do without Congress well speaking of that Trump runs on a Populist agenda he tells people what they want to hear he tells what they hear yeah how do you beat somebody how do you beat somebody that's telling people what they want to hear he listen he throws things out there and people you know he he gets the information on what the people are talking about right and then he reverberates that same communication and whatever sticks he doubles down on that right right now America is completely
Divided right no matter what answer that you give on reparations black people will not be satisfied until there's a solution based way of going about getting that well then there's a check right because that has to be done because we see so many things that we think would get done the money that goes to Israel the money that goes to Ukraine the money that goes to so many different things that get funded our military industrial complex right there's just Not a willingness to compensate black Americans but moving past that as you know we talk about
um bringing America together how do you get the people together right if you're not going to run and you're not going to run on a populist agenda right then what is your strategy cuz I know you said that you have a large percentage of young genin Z that are going to vote for you but how do you unite the rest of America right for Ford America well let let me say this because I would say I am running on a populist agenda the same way that my dad was and let let me tell you you
know when my dad my dad was killed in 68 right I was with him when he died I was 14 years old we flew him back across the country ketta King was with me at that time and um and then we waked him in St Patrick's Cathedral and then we brought him to Washington DC in the train a train and there were that train Had um probably the most excited government you know that would have ever um happened in our country were on that train the people you know and um John Lewis was on that
train Ralph abery was on that train uh you know many of the leaders of who had worked with my father side by side in the Civil Rights Movement with the Freedom Riders with the Voting Rights Etc were all on that train that train ride supposed to be 2 Hours it took 7 and a half hours because it were 2 million people on the train tracks and in the um and they were every color of the rainbow they were in the in the urban train stations which we went through at 1 mph it were filled with
thousands of black bases who were singing the batle of the Republic um in Trenton in Newark in Philadelphia in Wilmington and Baltimore in the countryside there were whites and military uniforms there were Hippies and tie Dy there were rabbis and and you know Catholic priests I remember being uh seven nuns standing in the back of a pickup truck in outside of Wilmington in a field a yellow pickup truck and they were ra waving their rosaries people were holding up American flags uh people were holding up signs that said goodbye Bobby pray for us Bobby mhm
and we got to uh New York we got to Washington President Johnson met us there and we went in a Convoy past the mall now the last campaign that my father had worked on with Martin Luther King now was called the Poor People's campaign and my father had said to Martin I'm the the Vietnam war is destroying the poverty program is bankrupting the poverty program and that you know we need to do the same thing my father had you know had worked with Dr King on the the on the um March on Washington the Civil
Rights March when he gave them I Have a Dream speech and he said we need to do that again but with poor people and the two of them worked together with Marian Wright Edelman who is working for both my father and Dr King and they brought all thousands of poor people to Washington and the the the intent was to to camp on the mall until Congress acted oh there were hundreds of shanties and plastic houses that were on the mall and when we drove Past them all of these men came to the side about half
of them were black they every color of the rainbow and they stood silently on the sidewalk with their heads about and their hats at their chest and we drove past them and um uh and then over the brid bridge and up the hill and we buried my dad next to his brother under a small stone for so was all the color of the rainbow it was you know the entire Cross-section of the American experience that I had seen in political campaigns all my life and four years later I was in Boston at College studing history
and I read demographic data from the 1972 election so that was four years later and the great majority of those white people would stood along that train track in 1968 and had supported my father for president in 1972 they didn't vote for George McGovern who was aligned with my father on every issue but instead they voted for George Wallace who was antithetical one of my father's great Nemesis an enemy he was a a vowed racist he vowed segregation now segregation forever when announced this presidential campaign so why did the people who supported Robert Kennedy in
68 the white men support George Wallace in 1972 and I it struck me then and it's occurred to Me every many many times since that every individual like every na Every Nation like every individual has a darker side and a lighter side and that the easiest thing for a PO populist politician to do is to appeal to our greed to our anger to our fear fear to our xenophobia to our hatred our racism bigotry the thing my father tried to do was was more difficult which is to inspire people with a vision of a Community
that they can afford to take a risk on people who don't look like them because we're part of a greater Adventure something to build a nation that we can all be proud of and that's an example to the rest of the world and my father was able to find that KIRO in people and so populism can have two two faces it can have that face of anger and bigotry and hatred and fear or it can have the face of idealism and my Campaign I said at the beginning of my campaign I'm not going to feed
into the vitri all or the anger I'm going to or the division this toxic polarization that is more dangerous now for our country than any time since the American Civil War that's tearing our country apart I'm not going to feed into it I'm not going to go after President Biden and low ways or president Trump I'm not going to talk about their legal cases or their personality problems I'm going to Challenge them on issues but I'm going to challenge them in a way that's respectful and congenial and I'm going to try instead of feeding the
culture warri issues guns abortions trans rights order security I'm going and racism I'm going to focus on the common ground the com the the values that we all share in common and what I've been able to do is identify all of these issues now that are much more important to Americans a $34 trillion debt that has gutted the American middle class that we're now paying more on the service of that debt than our military budget within five years 50 cents out of every dollar we spend we collect in taxes is going to go to the
debt within 10 years 100% it's existential the chronic disease epidemic that's debilitating our children the destruction of our soils the destruction of the environment if you want To if you want to talk about climate change you're going to get a fist fight but if you talk about toxics in the environment if you talk about um habitat protection if you talk about regenerative agriculture Good Foods protecting Wilderness our purple Mountain's Majesty everybody Republican Democrats want to do that when I was fighting the lead contamination and Flint Michigan we had Urban blacks standing next to Hell's Angels
when we Did when I Did Standing Rock we had union leaders Business Leaders Republicans Democrats blacks whites American Indians all standing together in solidarity because we didn't sell it as a climate issue we sold it as protecting sacred places in our country and if you talk about issues that way you get the same populous response without the hatred and the Victory all and that's that's what I've tried to do and you know ending the war Machine stopping the payments to to Ukraine stopping ending the the 800 bases that we have abroad that are now you
know just a they're just situation waiting for a war to feed the military and this constant pipeline of new Wars that we that you know we're we're now addicted to every million dollars we spend on child care in this country generates 18 jobs every million dollar we spend on bombs and you know Airplanes two jobs if we want to rebuild our economy if we want to rebuild the middle class we've got to focus on investments in our country in rebuilding our industrial base and bringing dignity good education to our people and uh and making sure
every American can get into a home and that's that's my populist platform there one got the isolus CBD the black seat oil the MCT oil and the Lion's man powder I think it's too much in here I Think we need to Cal we got to calm this product down we got to calm this party down it's too much it's too much bro I took this and I was going all day ain't nobody got that much work to get done in a day where they need to be taking supermon like what if you you a house
mom and all of a sudden you get everything done in one day and you ain't got nothing to do the rest of the week I took this I don't know what I'm supposed to do with the rest of in my life I feel Like I got everything done I was up BR I ain't going to lie I feel like I changed the world a thousand times on this I done figured out every single plan the next thing I need to have is patience cuz I didn't I done planned everything I done did everything I can
do in the day I'm serious like I think we put too much in we need to cut down the ingredient list and we need to make this regular mind cuz this like Viagra For the braks [Music] but small businesses being eliminated systematically and all the wealth is being moved up to these big corporations and this new oligarchy of billionaires it's calling all the shots because they control Congress and what are your thoughts on Bill Gates Jo Gates you know I wrote a book about Him and uh uh you know I can't look into his head
all I can tell you is that what he says about himself he calls you know he's got this big charity and he calls it philanthropic capitalism in other words by doing philanthropy you can make yourself even richer so he uses his contributions to the World Health organiz Ganization get the World Health Organization to mandate vaccines in all the African countries and he owns the vaccine companies the properer on there so it's just a way of buying government to make himself rich and Bill Gates the biggest vaccine he has is called the DTV vaccine area tness
and pis it's the number one vaccine all over the world because he pushes it Everywhere and he went Bill Gates went to the Danish government and they and asked them will you support this vaccine being given to all African children and and he said we already sa 30 million Liv and the Danish government said oh show us the data actually proves that and Gates couldn't do it so the Danish government went to guine Bow where they had big health clinics as a West African country and it health records going back 30 years they weighed every
child who was born in G bow at three months and then again at six months and in the early in the mid 80s they started giving them the dtp vaccine at 3 months and but if the kid was not exactly 3 months old when they visited the village or the health clinic they would wait till the kid was six months And then theyd give it to him so they had 30 years of data where half the kids between 3 months and 6 months of all of age were vaccinated and half were not it was the
perfect natural experiment and what they found was they looked at it was that girls who got the dtp vaccine were 10 times more likely to die over the next six months compared to children who did not Get it and the little girls were dying of things that nobody had ever associated with the vaccine they were dying of anemia of pharia of malaria of sepsis of uh respiratory I particularly pneumonia and nobody had ever noticed that it was the vaccinated girls who were dying and the unvaccinated gr children weren't until they actually did this study and
the scientist involved in the Study were all Prov vaccine but they were shocked a very very famous scientist two of them siget morgenson and Peter aab they were shocked by what they found and and they alerted the World Health Organization saying you should pull this vaccine wh refused to do it and they instead went after those scientists to try to destroy their reputation oh that's all Bill Gates that speaks World Bill Gates before he did That before he did the vaccine he did the Green Revolution in Africa where he took you know there's 's 20,000
generations of agriculture in these villages in Africa and they've developed their own grains and and fruits and vegetables and it was subsistence Agriculture and he said we're going to and the subsistence agriculture we're going to integrate you into the world's Economy and we're going to get you growing GMO corn and and other swum Etc and uh and then I'm going to arrange for companies that I own like McDonald's and craft this is gate speaking to buy your products to buy to make high fructose corns here so all of these African countries pressured their people to
stop subsistence Agriculture and to switch over to these GMO grains and Gates built the supply chain with Carill and Monsanto and and um and the the World Health Organization now estimates there's about 30 million people who have been pushed into food insecurity because of this because it wasn't working and uh during covid when we shut down the world economy all of that grain was piled on the docks nobody could sell it and they now didn't have subsistence agriculture to fall back on so you had a lot of people starving they say uh that 10,000 African
children were dying a month just from malaria because you know they couldn't get access uh during the lockdowns but from starvation all these other reasons hey how are you doing anyway so that's what I think of case there's a lot that we covered throughout this conversation I think some of the more interesting things when we talk about land ownership you talk about putting together this Rehabilitation Facilities right um the Way you think about bringing Americans together right I think you have a hindsight of a pastor where you believe that you have a connection to these
uh communities and that you have a way of viewing it from a perspective of understanding what you believe Change Is Right forward thinking because I come from a community of people that you know create their own revolutions if you will there's a huge financial literacy community that is booming right now Teaching people financial literacy economic literacy law how to set up trust right things of that nature people are deciding that this is the Great era of access and democratization that we're going to do our thing and the thing that most people want is less government
regulation less Government taxes the the old slogans of tax to Rich but really it's the poor middle class to say how about we have incentives to where there's less taxes Here and if black people want to build wealth and we want to be rich we don't want to be taxed and if there was a way of uh uh um you know seating you talking about reparations I think no taxes would be a great reparations but I think um cryptocurrency right as we get into stocks we get into cryptocurrency we get into real estate um number
one we don't want Black Rock and Vanguard to own up all of the houses in America right so what would be your plan to stop them From owning all of the real estate uh and then number two are you in favor of unrealized gains on you know cryptocurrency and stocks um and then number three you talked about food right but do you have any action plan because I know you Su masanto before right so I know you got to be anti-gmo in the food that we have right but how do you actually fix America's food
problem you know cryptocurrencies need first of all I'm very much in favor of blockchain and Crypto we need to keep that um that industry here in the United States we don't want to drive it out right now the Biden Administration has a war on crypto a war on blockchain in the last two years there's been 1,200 new cryptocurrencies founded in registered in Switzerland it has a value of $390 billion that should be here it shouldn't be in Switzerland it shouldn't be in Singapore it shouldn't be in China it Should be here that the same way
the way out of our debt is through Ai and blockchain we need a new industry the same way that we got out of debt last time with Silicon Valley we built a new industry and this is going to be the industry in the future we want to make sure the Hub is here in our country that um that uh the entrepreneurs are drawn to our country we can't over regulate it we got to make sure to regulate Ai and blockchain in Ways that make them serve the public and and make uh and and give us
control over our government and not ways that give our government control over the people so that's what we need to do we can't drive it out you cannot overregulation is here in this country in terms of um of oh I your first question was Black Rock St in Vanguard that's easy yeah with the real estate those companies now own 88% of of the S&P 500 and they are now trying to buy All the Landscapes the land the farmland and the single family homes I'm going to make it illegal for them I'm going to make it
very unprofitable for them and uh illegal for investment houses to buy you know large numbers of home last year I think 30% of the new the home sales were to these um you know to those uh to to Big investment houses and there's so many people I'm sure you know who want to buy a home they decide They they they scraped together the money and they got a home targeted and they're about to make an offer on it at the last minute they find out that somebody has come in with a cash offer 20% over
the asking price and you look out who is that and it's a who just stole my home and it's a uh uh it's a LLP with an ambiguous name and when you you know when you follow the strings it brings you back to Vanguard Fidelity State Street and black rock or black Zone and there's a bill right now before Congress that I've strongly supported that would make that illegal I'm going to make sure I do everything that I can to get that pass when I'm president I'm going to use the bully pulpit use all of
my legislative skills to try to make that happen um in terms of of unrealized gains the you we need to regulate crypto in this country and Bitcoin um in ways that are unique we Need a new format for regulation because during part of their Li livelihood lifetime lifespans they are they behave like Commodities and other parts they behave like Securities and um one of the problems is if you you know we I want a country where people can use Bitcoin transactionally so if you want to go buy a beer or a newspaper you can use
your Bitcoin and right now if you do that you have to pay Taxes if there's been unrealized gain if you if you bought Bitcoin at $20,000 a coin or whatever fraction that you're buying it and it's now 40,000 you need to pay taxes every time you spend that money and it's you can't use a transactionally oh I'm going to change that so that we can use it actually It's Tricky keys because the biggest Bitcoin owners now are Black Rock and you know and and other billionaires and you don't Want to give them a huge windfall
so we may say in transactions under a certain amount a million dollars or people own a million dollars that they don't have to pay um uh capital gains on any um uh increase the same as if I had Canadian dollar and um or America if I bought some Canadian dollars and their price went up against the American dollar I don't have to pay taxes on that or gold cuz people compare it To right and I I'm also um you know one of my programs is to the one of my program is to encourage the proliferation
of cryptos because that gives the American public a hedge against inflation it means you can hold on to the money that you've made it's not going to be stolen from you to pay for the wars inflation that's how they pay for Wars and it's tax on the middle class and tax on the poor tax on people on salaries and fixed Incomes and if they have Bitcoin if they have you know other cryptos they can hold on to their money and the government can't spend it without asking them permission so I love them I want to
make them so that they're used transactionally what do you think about cbdcs I'm against them they they're going to be used to to enslave us and you know I watch this right U for people don't know these are Central Bank digital currencies and it basically is a Way to get rid of paper currency and um put us all on credit cards this is what China's done in China people don't use currency Much Anymore your currency is your family right the social credit system but it's your face you go they your face is recorded everywhere through
facial recognition when you want to go buy groceries you show your phase and it can go on your and and then are giving out social credit for if your social credit score if you do something wrong Your social credit score drops then you're limited the government can do what they call programmable currency so maybe if if you don't if you if you're not wearing a mask on a mask day or you're wearing it under your nose or you get too close to your girlfriend on a social distancing day and they you're spotted by social by
facial recognition cameras your social credit score drops and now your credit card which is your face will only work at grocery stores Within you know a certain walking radius of your home you can't buy gas you can't buy an airplane ticket you can't buy anything else you're under house arrest I saw that in China firsthand but I also saw and I thought well that'll that may happen the United States at some point it'll be a 100 years but then during covid we were embedded with the truckers and the truckers you know started this protest Movement
they started an outburn and they went all the way across the country to Ottawa to the capital and all they wanted to do was exercise a right that we all take for granted which was the right of petitioning their government the right of assembling and it was a very friendly po as the truckers in Canada are black they're Asian they every color of the rainbow it was like Woodstock they were playing music they're picking up garbage they were Handing out water and lunches and food to people and it was a joyous kind wonderful demonstration the
Canadian government under under Justin Trudeau said this is a danger to our country these are right-wing you know terrorists and they they gathered information from facial recognition systems and from by taking down license plates and they shut off the bank accounts or those truckers PayPal it Raised $10 million PayPal wouldn't let them access it the the banks cooperated and said we're not going to allow them so these truckers couldn't use their credit cards they couldn't buy gas they couldn't buy diesel one truck they couldn't buy food for their kids they couldn't buy um you know
they couldn't pay their mortgages one trucker told me that he was going to jail because he couldn't pay his Al money has the government the government Never charged him with a crime they certainly never convicted him they just shut off his bank account and at that point I realized okay this is why they want Central Bank dig digital currencies because they can control us all that transactional freedom is as important as freedom of expression you know that they the framers didn't put it in the Constitution because they never imagined any government would have this power
and Now the government does and if the government can can starve you to death and get you so you can't pay your rent it can enslave you 99.999% of Americans are going to say I'm going to keep my mouth shut I'm not going to criticize my government because it made shut off my bank account and that's total control it's total slavery and I'm against it I'm against it as well so I know we got to get you out of here um but I just Have one last thing uh we didn't go over the food most
people don't trust the FDA right I've sued all these agency the reason I feel I can reform the government is because I've litigated against everyone I've L I've sued CDC probably more than any other attorney NIH FDA EPA probably more than any other attorney I've sued the Department of Agriculture repeatedly and big food big agriculture factory Farms I'm engaged right now in uh litigation involving the uh US Department of Transportation because I'm representing a thousand families whose lives were upended by the norfol southern rail spill which is direct result of agency capture I've sued FCC
on cell phone radiation and one in front of the court of appeals where the court of appeals ordered them to go back they lied to the American public about the danger of cell Phones so what I'm going to do when I get in there is I'm going to go to NIH my first week after I pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden and Ross alrick and you know and uh Steve Doner and other Heroes of the First Amendment and and insurgence against corporate you know this corrupt merger of state and corporate power I'm going to go
to NIH and I'm GNA say that NIH is a budget of $42 billion a year it gives that money to 56,000 Scientists to do studies right now what they're doing is they're developing drugs to treat chronic disease so they're going to sell you your drugs for diabetes when I was a kid the average pediatrician would see one case of diabetes in his lifetime in 50e career a one out of every three kids who walks through his office door is pre-diabetic or diabetic and the drug companies the the NIH is paying universities and drug companies to
Develop treatments for diabetes they're not paying to figure out why are all these kids The Sickest Kids in the world I'm going to go in there the first week and I'm going to say we're we're going to give drug development a break for the time being and infectious disease a break for the time being and we're going to find out why we have the sickest children in the world why we have the highest chronic disease burden where is the Diabetes coming from where is the Alzheimer's coming from where is the autism coming from where are
all these Auto autoimmune diseases Ron's disease lupus rheumatoid arthritis where's all these neurological disease that particularly impact boys in the black community ADD ADHD special a langate ticks red syndrome narcolepsy ASD and autism where is it coming from because we didn't have it when I was a kid nobody looked like that today every kid You talk to is injured let's find out what it is and then when we identify I say let's say I find out that high fructose corn Sy is causing the diabetes epidemic people will say even if you knew that they're too
powerful they've got Monsanto they've got Cargill they've got all the chairs of the Agricultural committee but here's how you do it you do enough science that shows the connection and then the lawyers come in and sue them and they represent a 100,000 kids who are obese and say you did this to me and that and that's what we did with Monsanto everybody told me you'll never get rid of rounda and I represented ultimately there were 40,000 um home gardeners in my case and we were we tried those cases one at a time we tried the
two of them Oakland the first one San Francisco we won 289 million I represented a black school superintendent who had been Spraying round up on Weeds and he had gotten uh non Hogans infa he had postulating Legions covering his whole body we won $289 million for him the second case in Oakland we won 89 million the third case we asked for a billion we won 2.2 billion and Monsanto came to the negotiating table they settled the cases for $13 billion and they agreed to remove glyphosate from home gardening products so you can do it you
just need To put the science out there and that's what TR going to make sure you are very interesting you know like I said when I first came across you um seeing some of your social justice work right seeing you fight um for transparency with the vaccines right talking about you know the effects that it has right specifically on black children right I remember R Islam delivering a lot of that information and you work with Tony Muhammad as you spoke about earlier with That documentary right and you've you've live a life to where you fought
right A lot of these actors that we know are to be corrupt and they're completely profit driven right and they're profit driven right at the detriment of the people right and now we live in this America to where when most people think about America's future they think about it in a very BL dark way right it's no longer that home of hope that people were giv illusion of if you will right and that's Because we know so much now about how the systems work we can't you know pretend that we don't see it anymore how
the justice system work how big farmer work how the the market works right we see what's going on with RAR and kitty and the game stock and I see you bought a little gam stock you might be up a little bit right now did you buy some yeah I might did a little something might did a little I keep my eye on it you feel me Um but I but I think that there's there's an interesting approach that you're taking number one because you are going on all these different podcasts and you're making yourself vulnerable
to the people to have these discussions on these Independent Media right public platforms right and I want to get to know in the last part if if you can give me you know the soul of a man I heard you talking about you know what is God to you and things of that nature and I Believe that you know America today feels very Godless right no in the classroom no God in the politics no God in the decision making from Top up to top down but that matters to people a whole lot because the remoralization
of society gets us to a place to where we can say okay I see the future of America cuz we're at the end of the Empire right and and only way that that Empire gets better is that the toxins right that has poisoned this Empire right get pulled Out and it becomes a clean and righteous environment right for this gener will be like I do want to have children because the younger generation don't want to have children in America because they're afraid of the future that's a big problem because there's a baby bus that's going
on right so when we think about that I want you to go into the inner depth of who you are I've seen uh and I've I've done you know a lot of research on where you stand on a lot of Foreign policy matters right where you stand on war where you stand on different things there was so many more places that I wanted to to go to in you know different parts of your life I'm happy to come back any time is but you know I and you know I don't want to take the rest
of your day the one thing I know people are going to um um say you know Keys why didn't you ask him about Israel I believe I already know your stance right from the videos that I've Seen and the interviews that I've seen you seem very pro-israel in my opinion right so I don't really want to waste my time going down that rabbit hole I would say I'm more Pro Palestinian than anybody but I don't think am I don't conflate amamas with the Palestinian people I were you know I've been to rala I've met with
the Palestinian Authority I've met friends in Gaza I have friends all over Palestinians all over Israel um I you know I'm doing a podcast a regular Podcast on the path to peace where I have an Israeli and a Palestinian what I think is profitable to talk about is what is the path to peace as you can go back and argue you know what uh you know put everything in the context and uh uh you know I can I can talk about that all day I know the history back and forth but I think the most
profitable discussions I'm having are with people of good Intent and Good Will who want to figure out how do we you know how do we Foster peace how do we have a a peace relation relationship that's going to bring prosperity to the region that's sovereignty the Palestinian people dignity and um allow them to you know to choose their own future yeah I mean that seems like a tough thing because I don't see America having that much power over the decisions of Israel yeah I don't either Um I I I look at almost every president that
comes in is pro Zionist right I think that that's embedded into the fabric of this country at this particular point right um I think the only thing that the young people that's fighting on the campuses and the people that's all around the world that is fighting to have a voice they do want to know where does this go because they look at this as a World War III type of scenario right they look at this In Our Lifetime to where you see innocent civilians Ding and no amount of casualties is okay the amount of casualties
that we see in this war has already surpassed right where we know that this is not something uh that the people are committing is half Humanity right when we look at the AI the way it's being used lav dur and the gospel and there's multiple different factors that we can go about that I think that that's something that the people feel a Whole lot of Despair about and they wish that they had a candidate that would stand up and speak in a manner right that did represent the people and I don't believe that nobody has
spoke on it in a manner to where it feels like oh you are empowered to actually make a change nin yahu seems to be you know the sheriff around here to be able to do what he likes that's the way right the script has been written for the people and amongst the people and for somebody That is very much for the people in your stances to fight against masanto and suing the government and talking about the CIA and all of these different things I think that was the first time when I heard you speak about
um Israel I thought the stance was going to be different in the sense that you are going to understand where the people right cuz you have to see the data like everybody else you're a very smart and intelligent man I can tell that right But you don't have a hard stance on this is what I want to do and the reason I think you don't because I don't think you can right and I don't think that they takes and I and I mean it in a sense that I don't think that American Presidents at this
point and I've seen so many opinions change from left wing to rightwing to all these different people there's almost a common consensus that they agree that America doesn't have the power that we once thoughted Has right that there's so much things that have changed from CIA to private intelligence to so many different things and people are have more information now than a president had in the 90s right because we can go on our phone and be well informed about things so I think that you know beyond that the reason that I focused on economics because
I believe that that's what the people care about immediately to make change in their life and when it comes to foreign Policy it's almost something that the people sacrifice right but it's also going to continue to have unrest and divide the people in this country until the Palestinian people have a way forward that is not dependent upon right Israel yeah um first of all I want to say this that um I don't do anything I don't take positions on issue because of political expediency if I did that I would not be I involved in the
vaccine debate for 16 years or any of the debates that I've gotten into or you know I I only am I have an audience of one which is my conscience and God and uh I'm going to tell the truth I'm going to tell people what I believe I'm not going to tell people what I ought to believe or or posture in a way that I'm taking a position that I don't believe in if I lose the election I'm going to do it because I told the truth if there's an appetite For people who you know
if there's an appetite for the truth in this country I will be president in November but um so if you're suggesting that I would take a position on on Israel or Palestine because of political necessity or expediency then you would be wrong I think you and I need to have a long discussion about Palestine a friendly congenial respectful discussion um but I think it's a long one um if you you know because a lot of The things that you just mentioned about lavender and AI um I would challenge that I don't I don't think your
impression of that is true I don't think those systems are in control of what's happening in Gaza I don't think they're in control but they're they have been audited and seen that and they are the reason that there's a disproportionate amount of casualties in Gaza which is one of the highest casualty Wars that story is is Challenged not only by the Israeli government but by people who are directly involved who are to me are very reliable PE people um Colonel rer um John Spencer who runs the institute for the study of urban Warfare at West
Point who has been in the proportionality hearings in Israel and um and the uh and the claims that those were being used in that way you know to create proportionality calculations that you can kill a a head Of hoser that it's worth 40 civilians that by every reliable metric is not happening the person who has been promoting that has not been able to Source it he's been either unwilling or uh he's just unable he's been repeatedly asked to to Source it and he said that he got that information from interviews with two new recruits who
would not know what what I would say Everything he's about this about this um uh about this conflict is in dispute and everything can be disputed and all the assumptions on both sides are should be questioned and all of the propaganda that is you know that is is filling the airwaves about this conflict has to be questioned and parsed and disputed and that's what I do you know I go deep and I look at and I have my own issues I respect other people I think our the place we want to end up is the
Same place which is to end the war machine in our country to um and to and to make sure that the killing stops at this heartbreaking tragedy of what's happening to particularly children in Gaza that it stops that is you know so destructive to all of us the question is how do you do it what is the road to do that to minimizing I understand this is that that particular subject is a lot to unpack yeah right um and like I said I've seen your interviews previously about this particular subject which is why I didn't
spend much time harping on it because I know my people conditions really deal with economics I'm happy Focus I'm happy to come back another time and just talk about time if you want all right so let's end this on you know um what type of leader will you be in the sense how will you be led when you want to be the president That's a massive position in undertaking right you they lead up to a decision is it because your father or your uncle is it because of your father is it because you believe you
are man is chosen for a mission right once you get into that White House right I want to know who and what are you being led by that's going to guide you right because when I think about presidents and once you're a leader of something um you have to battle within your own light and Darkness to make the right decisions right so from what place are you going to be making those decisions you know I I think I have a clear idea of what I'm going to do in the White House than probably any other
president in modern history probably at least and Clinton um I think Clinton went in there with a clear idea I think my uncle went in there with a clear idea I think even Nixon went in there with a pretty Clear idea of what he wanted to do I have a very clear idea of what I want to do and how I'm going to do it and what I said what I was say is that if I go in there everything's going to change everything is going to change I'm going know you know I know when
you sue these agencies you get a PhD in corporate capture and out a unravel it I know how to unravel a war machine I know how to uh reform the CIA I know exactly what I'm going to do with The CIA which was what my dad was going to do and what my uncle was going to do I know the particular individuals in many of these agencies in NIH EPA and CDC who are corrupt and who I will move immediately I know the perverse incentives that put corporate capture on steroids that I will change 50
50% of fda's budget comes from the pharmaceutical industry we can't do that anymore they're working for fora they're not working for us scientists at NIH are Allowed to collect royalties on products that they regulate that is just a recipe for corruption we need to end that and you know they have those kind of reverse incentives in all the agencies and I you know I can't wait to get in there and change those okay family I think that this particular election is going to be the most important election throughout human history specifically the history of I
Would say American history uh because I believe that we are at a turning point right I don't see where the people come together right um and you know they say well there is no vision that's where the people perish and I think when I look at the candidates that we have today right I think it's important that we look at Robert F Kennedy because most people are complaining about Trump and Biden and they saying that these are the choice between the two evils right so I believe That you have to look across the full spectrum
and that the opportunity that we have is either taking the ideas of what we've been told in program right and believing that that's going to be our future or we have a people's future and the people's future is where you really put stock in your own mind you put stock in your own abilities right you put stock in your ideas for the future when I think about black America's future I always talk about Decolonizing the future meaning that the ideas that you have in your mind about what is to be or not your own so
you have to come up with your own I've haven't been somebody that has historically championed presidential elections because I've always believed in the idea of vote for yourself first and preside over your own affairs when it comes to big government when it comes to Farmer when it comes to the companies I see us you know uh pushing information All the time about the issues and the problems and things of that nature I believe that there should be a continuous approach regardless of who becomes president to constantly challenge these issues but I want people to understand
that the power is in the people I want to thank Robert Kennedy he's the first politician that I had up here that you know spent a length of time um you know giving us what your policies will be what your Solutions Will be what your background what your history is going to be um and what you believe that the vision for the future is going to be right I just want people to have faith in themselves because you have a uphill battle if you were to become president you got to go to war and you
are war with you know um entities that have tentacles so deep into this country that going to have to uproot those things so there's no you know Sunshine tomorrow right there's a Uphill battle regardless of who becomes whether it's president whether it's Trump whether it's Biden whether it's RFK and I think that you know I want us to just think about what we want the future to be that's the only thing that high level conversations is here for us to get you to think because I think a thinking man and woman is the most dangerous
right and the most uncont contr one and if America had a future that I would respect it is a future Where the citizens of America know how to think for themselves so this has been your highle conversation if you have any questions make sure you reach out and tap in if you want to do any more research on the candidate make sure he has a million interviews out there and if I didn't cover something I'm sure that there's a question that someone else has already asked that has been covered thank you all for watching highle
conversations I want to thank you You and your campaign for showing up today thank you so much Keith absolutely 19 ke this is high [Music] with what direction are you going to take this country like I said AI has sent me a plethora of interviews about Israel so I know what his stands are so I don't want to sit there and debate him man when I already know where he stands right that's my belief particularly and I was I was talking to some of my that I reach out to and ask them what would you
ask a lot of them kept coming back to economics right what you going to do for the middle class where's the opportunities right what is the future of AI and the reskilling of America right then it kind of goes into what kind of man are you right are you a part of the elite class cuz you do come from an oligarch Family An American oligarch family known as the kennedies um even Though that you know your family is not backing you in this particular race ah do you think your desire for power is based on
I think I might have asked you this question before in a similar way but I'm just really thinking about your past right and how power has been ripped from your family in unfair Ways by the government by the system and I think that that definitely has to inspire your fight right against big corporations Against government systems but now do you think part of you know what's been robbed out of your legacy is what you want to fulfill and then why isn't that your family is in complete support of your campaign is it this that they
were rather be on the side where they think will win or do they actually believe in you do y'all still communicate I was curious about that yeah I mean my struggle is to keep my ego out of my decision making you Know I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing and uh and so you know I'm I'm doing it I um if you think if you started to go higher up in AOS you get the endorsement you mean with my family with your family um well you know my family first of all I a huge
fan so a lot of the family I would say almost half of them are supporting me but there's there's you know there's the a few of them that have been out spoking against Me and listen I have five members of my family who work for the Biden Administration oh and Biden is a long-term friendly family I've known him for 40 years um and so they and they're also worried that I'm going to get Trump eled you know they're worried I'm going to take votes away from Biden and give them to Trump they think that's very
dangerous and that I should just you know stay in line right and uh i' by So do do do you think B my my job is to love my family even when they're doing things that could be hurtful to me yeah and to be an example myself we need to live in a country where we can have a dialogue with each other where we can differ passionately on issues but we can still see each other as Americans and love each other that's what I try to do with my family and you know listen I'm doing
I believe that I need To do and I think everybody involved in the campaign feels like we're on a kind of cosmic journey and but ultimately the outcome is in God's hands if he makes me president and I'm going to change this country dramatically but if he doesn't I'll go back to doing what I'm doing or do the next thing and I'll be content inside I'm not you know I feel like I don't have the ego in this Decision that I'm pushing the rock up the hill because I'm that that's my duty my fa I
don't know if I told you this story but my dad about two weeks before he died gave me a book by kemu who is an existentialist the book is called the plague and it's about a plague that is ravaging a North African City and the city's under quarantine nobody can go in and out play is killing everybody it's highly contagious and a lot of this book Takes place in the mind of a Doctor Who's locked in his bedroom he knows if he goes out he's probably going to get the plague and die he's telling himself
we don't know how to treat this we don't know anything about it I can't help these people and there's another part of them say your job is to go out and console people even if you can't help them physically recover this is who you are this is your Dharma and ultimately he goes out but um Camu who wrote that was an existentialist and they were the legates of the of the stoics in ancient Greek and Rome the stoic movement was a movement that ba basically said do your duty Embrace hardship Embrace suffering these are gifts
to us the great uh the great iconic hero of the St movement was Copus Copus had done something for Humanity And he was cursed by the gods push a big boulder up a hill and over the other side but he could never get it quite over when he'd get to the top it would always roll back on him and he was doomed to do that for eternity so all day long he'd pushed the boulder up the hill when he got to the top it would roll back on him and mangle him and he had to
spend all night walking down the hill he shoulder the boulder again and Push up the hill and in the mind of most people he's a miserable guy cuz he's got to do that for eternity but in the minds of the stoics he was happy man because he knew what his duty was and he put his shoulder to the stone and the outcomes were irrelevant to him he knew he had to push it was up to the gods whether he ever got it over the hill but his job was to be grateful and content and happy
that he knew what his duty was and my Father gave me that book right two weeks before he died he' given me a lot of poems and books to read but because he gave it to me and he said to me with a special intensity I want you to read this uh after he was killed I SP I read the book multiple times trying to unlock the mystery of why he thought this was so important to me but I understand it now it's about moving your ego about not having expectations in life about taking what
You're given what the duty is and and uh and pushing the rock up the hill and we've all got to push our own rock up the hill right so that struggle we need to learn to derive Joy from and use suffering and use challenges as touch tones for spiritual growth and understand that every hardship we're given is not a crisis they're all tasks and they're tasks that are meant to get us where our creator wants us to go which Is a stage of Enlightenment the stage of Enlightenment you're very philosophical man especially in your roundabout
way of answering and viewing things there's so many different things that kind of go through my head and unless we have an unlimited amount of time I can't really draw out all of the subjects that I wanted to draw out right so we had to have a high level over a bunch of different things but what I Want from the people that's listening I want to ask you all what do you think about the candidate now that he sat here and had these highle conversations I will say that you know they reached out to us
um and I respect that I've seen him on multiple black platforms right I've seen him on multiple white podcasts and he sat there and respectfully answered all of the questions that represents something new I endorse no candidates right um I believe that local Elections matter and I believe that self- elections matter you have to self- elect yourself to take care of your own business I believe that America will always be a corporate capitalism machine I believe that you do need people in there that are going not just say what you want to hear so this
is why I do respect the fact that he know that's wasn't the answers that I wanted but he didn't give the answer that I wanted he gave what I believe he believe is his Truth right I'm not a person that likes to debating going back and forth because I already figure out what a person is thinking so for me I only want the people to sit there and be like all right I get what it STS is on this I get what it stands is on this either you got Clarity or you didn't if you
didn't get clarity then there's no reason to go with that leadership because when a leader communicates they should clarify right so you can make decisions and so I'm at this place now where it's like you know thank you for coming on High level conversations and my only my only thing now is what do you think because that's all that matters what do the people think I try to reserve my biasness but it oozes because I have so much bias when it comes to America I believe the moment that you get caught up in the belief
that the political system is Going to give you Freedom um Justice equality Liberty Equity that's when you have lost sight of of you know what's reality because I don't believe that it was ever set for that the government is there to govern um you know your money and your mind and if that's what you want them to do continue to go down that path go vote when it's time to go vote and go pick your savior but this country going to get ugly it's going to get ugly I don't see a safe election coming up
I Don't see a peaceful election coming up I don't see a peaceful resolution to these wars and these issues and these problems that's going on I will say a lot of the stuff that he talked about I didn't see Trump talk I don't see Trump talk about I don't see Joe Biden talking about right going against big farmer going against these companies that's poison in America going against the FDA suing these people you know people voted for Trump because he's a business Entrepreneur right president that does go along with the populist agenda and black people
want wealth right now so when you start talking that wealth talk we listening Biden has not laid out any singular plan that we care about he seems to be in this constant state of scality and defense mode right and they're still heavily just leaning on I'm going to get the black vote Robert F Kennedy decided to run as an independent most people believe that he was just Stealing votes away from uh Bon and it's going to help the chances of Donald Trump right so for me when I look at this race whether it's him in
the race or going against Bon Trump seems like he's going to be the winner unless something radical happens in this country right where the people decide to and and he has this debate with Trump and Biden and he makes them look silly on the main stage and the people something in them Changes but it's very hard to change Mago country because once people believe in Trump it's like a religion right same thing with Republicans and Democrats so I respect the man's fight right um I I'm not in it to make friends I'm not in it
to believe everything about a man but I will say this I respect the fact that he went to the Nation of Islam right and helped them fight and give them information about you know vaccines right get them information about autism Challenges right challenge Dr foui challenge the institution I respect the hell out of that right more than you know and met Minister faran he asked me to come out there I think it was maybe in 2015 2016 um he had read an article that I did about the disproportionate injury to black children from certain vacines
from the MMR vaccine there was a study that came out um in 2005 the chief author was a Guy called Frank saano he's the head of the immunization safety office at CDC and he had done a study of Georgia children to look at the MMR vacine and during the course of that study and there were five other authors during the course of that study um they found out that black children who got the vaccine on time in other words that before before 36 Months that they had a two and a half 2.5 times greater incident
of autism than black kids who waited mhm or who didn't get it at all and that black boys had a 3.8 so three and a half time three more than three and a half times almost four times the rate of autism than kids who who waited or didn't get it at all and um so I had done and then the CDC had actually the lead author was a guy called William Thompson who's still at CDC was the senior vaccine safety Specialist and he had uh he had revealed this data he had said holy cow this
is really bad and on a Saturday I think it was September 12th 2002 all of the authors were called to a conference room at uh at CDC and they were asked to bring their race-based data in other words all the data the reveal the race the kids that revealed this signal they all went into that Conference room and when they got there there were four giant blue garbage cans and they were told to uh to dump their hard drives and all the race based data into those garbage cans and Destroy them and they published the
study in 2005 and they pretended that data didn't exist so they just apped to the public the person who ordered it is a woman named Colleen Bole who was also one of the co-authors she's the only co-author who wasn't there that day but she ordered the Destruction of that day and she still running the vaccine division at CDC so they just lied to people and maybe half a million black kids have gotten autism since then and um you know the indicators from this study is that a lot the vaccines have a lot to do with
that um so I had written an article about that about this study and I got contacted by Tony Muhammad here in LA he asked me if I'd be willing to go out And talk to some Physicians and other health Experts of the Nation of Islam in Chicago and I went out there and spent a day with them and it was very enlightening with me because I saw also the concern that the discipline that you talked about um and you know everybody wearing suits everybody looking very presentable people I learned for the first time that if
you own a gun it's it is grounds for expulsion for the Nation of Islam and that um and and also the health uh issues which had a big impact on me because Tony Muhammad who looks really good at his age and everybody looked good everybody looked incredibly healthy and they said that they were only eating one meal a day and it got me interesed and in fasting which I do to this day it's really had huge impact on my heal that's where it comes from in America intered Fasting comes from uh Elijah Muhammad when he
wrote his book How to Eat to Live part one and two and then he popularized It in America cuz he had a list of dietary restrictions what to eat what not to eat what were the effects of it and you know 1 m a day was best prescribed and you know since then you know a lot of uh practitioners and health science has picked it up but I believe he was the most influential in that particular Category I'm also a heavy thinker in the realm that you have to M uh remain objective about everybody right
um because it's not what you know it's what you don't know that can hurt you right I look forward to having more conversations with politicians you know um and understanding the political process more educating myself more because I don't Believe that I'm fully educated and or informed so I had to do a lot of research and I had a short amount of time to do this research before we had this episode um and that's why I say go do your own research U I think I have a few questions uh people going to ask now
so what are you voting for them are you going to vote I endorse no candidate I voting for myself I I would Like to sit down and talk with Cornell West right and I want to see what he has to say um not that I personally believe that he could win um well no because black people are loyal to the Democratic party and then the people that are breaking off from the loyalty to the Democratic party are going directly over to Trump um I think that there would be that would have that would be a
lot he would have to do in The next four months to have this great surgent right to get into the minds of the people oh and get this extreme amount of loyalty instantly I don't see that um I like I said if there was a candidate I respect a lot of things that they do it would have been RFK right um yeah that's it but no I'm most likely not voting in the first place it don't even Matter this was a conversation that wasn't specifically about my interest right it was what I believe are the
interests of the people I sit down with so many different people and I can just sit there and have a high level conversation like honestly if there was something I wanted to talk to him about it would have really been about you know his lawsuits and his fights that he had and I could have sent hours just going through and sifting through those Stories but I know that there's so many other things that's on the mind of the people about like who is he right and when you start getting into politics right you're going to
offend people regardless all right there's going to be people on both sides of the AL people that don't even want me to talk to him people that don't like him before people that said that you didn't go deeper on this enough right you shouldn't have talked on this it's going to be all of That so in this one I wanted to try to see if I can get as well-rounded uh amount of conversation is possible to where at least present your mind on these subjects right I can't pinpoint I can't pin you down to force
you to answer a certain way but I want the people to listen and be like okay this is how he thinks right he shifted this way on this one he went Direct on this one he went round about on this one they deflect on this one Right that's your job to be able to look at those things and be like you're learning how persons think when they come on High level conversation right sometime I sit with the elders and I really just want to pick their brain and like I said if I was to sit
down with him again it will really going deeper diving on those other subjects that I think are important like the food in America the crisis The Drug crisises In America the toxins and chemicals the air Quality the medical racism right um the shadow governments the CIA the private and public intelligence there's so many different factors and ways that we can go about this particular conversation you know those to me are actually more interesting but the goal is not to just cuz you're running for a president and his Politics the goal is not to just give
you an audience right in a microphone to be favorable in front of in my audience right is also to Challenge you right to where you either going to um you know Court favor from people that listen and like the way you think or you're going to offend them right and they're going to move further away from you and my job is to present your mind to the world to where they can make a decision about who you are like I said in this one it was it's a lot of thinking involved for me um because
in no way do I like to portray that I know everything it is 19 keys with a platform Learning um I think the beautiful thing about his platform and many other people who have reached out to us is that they are respecting the platform's influence that it has and my platform is open to many different people as if I'm open to RFK I'm opening to people that disagree with me I'm open to people that agree with me I'm open many different fronts if we can have conversations that are productive that get people to think and
a lot of things like I said the most Important things about the conversation is you know the economic policies which I I'm going say I wasn't satisfied with um but then we say okay I don't think no president is going to satisfy that particularly but I do like to fight against the toxicity of America that to me is um the greater part of it Mar I got younger brothers who got lead poisoning right in St Louis through the through the paint so and we talk about prison reform right we talk about food Deserts right we
talk about education we talk about lack of access to Capital we talk about job creation all of these things actually really affect me in real life and affect the conditions of how we grew up right so like I told him I don't expect him to solve those problems but I expect you to create opportunities for people who are solving those problems and have those solutions for the Brain Trust of Black America and if you're willing to work with the real Brain Trust of Black America then things can change but if you're only willing to stand
next to the safe black Americans those who are considered to be quote unquote safe on paper then ain't no change going to come and so I respect his I respect his campaign and platform more than any other candidate you feel me because I don't see and I could be wrong I don't see um Camala Harrison in that chair I don't see them inviting us to the White House you know what I'm Saying so think the way that he started his platform off already was unconventional right and radical that you're talking to different sides of America
they usually don't get the opportunity to have their voice and opinion in an election if you want to be free learn how to think he talked about how operation Mocking Bird right where the CIA owns all of the media assets that run Psychological operations and programs on the American people to sway them in one direction or the other think about all of the programs that you watch that are directly funded by the CIA this ain't one of them you know what I'm talking about and to detox yourself from those things you need a new diet
right and coming on High level conversations man that's like eating the best organic plant-based food on the planet Earth for your mind right because this not a place Where we're trying to poison you this not a place we're trying to manipulate you we're not trying to trick you we simply want to get you to think question reality take in information understand different perspectives right to this is the place where culture really happens right real culture happen because we have to have an intellectual culture science culture technology culture engineering Arts mathematic culture right a political culture
understanding Law culture right we talking about like for me I believe that you know being the voice of a generation right is very important because everybody's afraid to speak up there's so many people that's out there right now that's watching this and um they believe that they should be in this position and our goal is to create platform for all of you all you can't do it immediately right we don't have any outside funding or budget we do Everything ourselves mean it's going to take longer so what you're seeing is something that's unprecedented he talked
about you know black land loss in United States now I was looking at an article that was published February 1st 2024 1910 black Farmers own as much as 16 million Acres of farm Farmland in the United States while they comprised only 1.8% of the US Farmland at the time black Farm owners own even less today after of 2017 just 2.9 Million Acres Ored 0.3% right um this is because of racism violence anti-black legislation discriminize you know federal agencies and a multitude of other different practices that have been going on for the last 100 years now
we talked about this this is something that really affects us right if we're not having conversations like this that's customized to our community right and customized to our past which represents Our future then what is the point of us having media in the first place right it is our job to expose issues and problems right for me when you talk about like what what would happen if highle conversations have more budget at the high LEL Club things of that nature have more budget we start our own operation Operation high level they had operation Mocking Bird
we got operation high level to give the truth To the people right I think that the fear that people have had historically about AI is a fear that they have historically about you you and I right because they afraid that if we start thinking that the oppressed class would take over the oppressed they think that they are your makers right and the goal is yes I want to get you to think so that you can start communicating across networks and understanding your power right and when You understand your power what you want to do decide
your future so why would you continue to work for people right that have made you into their slave think when we thinking it's providing you information you have to ask yourself man you know how come we haven't had more conversations like this how come you know there's so much blackface media out there right they get all of this advertisement dollars but they don't have serious conversations they never go See an exchange like that wining a candidate on one of those platforms why because they are controlled and owned by which entities see now when you start
tracing the money back you're seeing a representative of that money and because we free and because we don't have money from none of those people I'm going speak the truth and only focus on your concerns right and only focus on the truth and I'm going to challenge people that sit there right my goal is not to Attack people my goal is not to create a violent platform my goal is to create a ciper to where we can build and communicate cuz if I was literally sitting down with the president I don't want to focus on
all the differences I want to focus on immediate change right so having this platform feels like a beautiful responsibility right I'm been reaching out to people and asking them to be contributors I don't we have a news desk now to where we're pushing out News that we believe is important important and you may have a voice you may make content right and I want you to be a contributor of high LEL conversation reach out to us go to 19 Keys um 19 keys.com right and fill out one of the applications so you can be a
part of it when you start to see more Independent Media America is already changed politicians big government these institutions are just slow to change they should have been came I've been Learning that you know all of the governments are deciding all for Mayors Governors president right they understand this thing that they can't go to print ads digital ads and try to influence the people that's not going to work so they're paying influencers they're going direct to you this is why we going to help people build Brands right have your media because they understand that the
power is in the people when you building your Community you have the trust of the people if they're not going through you right the people are not going to be listening but you also have to have real eyes that realize the Real Lies that's out there right when you talking about what's going on Tik Tok and Instagram and YouTube you got to understand when there's a paid puppet right or there's somebody that's real and most people are paid puppets they ain't giving you nothing real right when you incentivized By a dollar you can't give people
the truth right because then it will cut off your water so for me I want to be funded by the people I want to be funded by real people real businesses that do not have an agenda to take away and muzzle the truth but instead create more of it because the culture in the future is about transparency and honesty and Tru truth and if America is to have a future right where the disadvantaged people start to drive it has to be one that is Honest we don't want this same you know snake in the grass
culture that we have of corruption to where we even have all these government agencies FDA right USDA all of these that we believe oh we can trust and then you come peel back the layers and you realize like these are the the the company and the one that regulates them are the same right I don't want you to have hope I want you to know the future I don't want you to just have hope that a better Future is around the corner I want you to know because you know yourself right you know your skill
sets you know your talent you have your own Vision you have your own tribe and you understand your power no politician in the world is going to save you what we do is look at strategy which politician that we can use that will help us save ourselves who's not going to get in our way right and who's going to create the most opportunity and what is going to be That doorway for communication the Democratic Community right now is doing a outreach program to where they're reaching out to all of the voices in the community but
if they're not reaching out to the radical ones if they're not reaching out to the independent ones it doesn't matter nothing matters right it's the same old play just a different tactic there's two sides to Black America whether you white brown yellow I've seen so many people of different Various is races with platforms that speak truth that I learn from right those are the ones I want to see candidates talk to those are the ones I want to see C in them seats because I know they gonna ask them the right questions but right now
we have a culture that is demoralized and degraded and they know that we just want a little bit of money because we ain't never had none right and so they give us some position give us a little bit of status And that's enough for most people to sell out and so we have to end the sellout culture right and we have to start buying into a real culture something that we're willing to invest in that we want to see for futures to come right media is one of the most important tool because it controls reality
right what you think right where you think from how it informs you it's a reason that they run all these psychological and military operations Understanding media and why they want to control it so much and why this is the most dangerous age and they want to keep you censored because if you are able to just say what you think then somebody else is going to hear that and start thinking as well so they want to control what you think because it makes it easier to command the society so do not let them think that the
revolution doesn't happen with this media it absolutely starts here when I was young In order for me to know about a political candidate if they wasn't on TV and the print I wouldn't know I wouldn't know how they think I wouldn't see them like now our children gets to see them set down to somebody that looks like us and Pro been asked them real questions that's a different approach and I think that's something that we need to Demand right from every single candidate not just presidential but Governors Congress Mayors right orderman right any public Official
sit down and let somebody probe you and not just give you questions right and you have pre-prepared answers that's not real that's fake that's scripted who the hell wants that reality we got to get away from that 1,00% right so if I'm sitting next to you give me a time limit and definitely don't give me a card of questions because I'm going ask my own and yes you should be challenged yes you should feel like oh I wasn't prepared for that cuz Now I get to see how you are under pressure now I get to
see who you really are and that's what matters the most so I think that American politics are in for a change and the people have to decide what kind of future they want they want a scripted one or they want a real one because I'm into reality you going president I'm I'm going run my campaign and my campaign is right the first person that you need to Elect is yourself and the question that I have on my campaign is what does your 100% look like what does it look like if you build your own communities
what does it look like if you build your own mind what if it looks like if you leverage and will technology for your vision of the future what does it look like if we divest ourselves from these companies that are are over chemicalized right what if it look like we actually take this Information and we do something with it instead of waiting for the elected officials to do something because let's say RFK doesn't get elected Biden ain't going to do it Trump ain't goingon to do it so we just keep the same order right you
the people have to force change it's the only way it will happen that's the revolution has to happen based on the will of the people so you know my campaign right is getting people to live at their 100% and not being satisfied With the mundane for me good influence is good leadership good leadership right create your own media right sit down with your family come out with a plan that's a Kennedy he has a family their family has influence political power right they have a bloodline right to where they establish that they believe that they
should be the rulers don't you think that that should be within your family as well but how do you deserve that is that you have to put royalty Into your bloodline and that's the election that you have to have who are you voting for in your household right like we should have household elections first that's the family you feel me most most of y'all don't believe your father should run a household right there's somebody that is successful in your household they should be elected and everybody should get behind them for the future of the family
to help build the institution right However long that you believe if you believe Congress is staying there for Life long right I believe that there's a an election something about Congress as well I ain't going to get into all of that but I believe this idea of like yo let's elect our leaders right I ain't talking about the government I'm talking about in the culture right most people are already electing their leaders by who you pay attention to and who you give your money to right because that is Who you are allowing to influence you
inspire you educate you motivate you right and that has a direct determination on the choices you make right and the person that you become and the habits that you have so I'm already president just not of the White House [Music] [Music] I've been out to meet Minister faran a couple times yeah I think that's where I First got familiar with you I seen um Riz Islam post you up who Rizza Islam oh yeah yeah yeah yeah do you know you know Tony Muhammad yes yeah yeah course he was very close friend yeah that's when I
first seen I believe that's when uh doing a lot of work around the vaccines and the connection to autism and Tony did have movie with me yeah Co what was the movie called it was called um medical racism like I think the the subtitle was like New tusky experiment or something like that it was really uh we had some great people in that film so how has this whole race been on you man your energy still high your spirit still high at this point in it yeah I mean I'm pacing myself I think if I
had to like go back a year and uh and if I knew where I was now that I'd be very happy okay what would you have done differently in highight I mean there's a Million thing like in my life is just a series of mistakes that I wish I could go right you know it's just that's that everything happens for a reason so the Chinese guy his son breaks a leg and and they say that's a great tragedy and he says maybe maybe not and then you know the son is lame and he can't go
to war and all the other kids are dressing and every bad thing that happens there's kind of a you know a good outcome if you wait Long enough yeah I tend to be a super optimist about life always looking for it so it's hard for me to take things you know in a bad way cuz things could always be worse and I'm always looking forward to them getting better yeah you there was this whole uh sort of religious Christian religious school at the beginning of the century um that you know was about the power of
positive thinking that it draws it draws positivity to you and if You if you complain that it's like praying for bad things to happen and if you if you if you try to process Reality by you know looking for this Silver Lining and thing it has a it actually has the power to change your reality and I think that's true and I know it's true for me I did it like years ago when I when I after I got sober I I um I noticed that I was complaining a lot about stuff and I just
Said I'm going to try to stop complaining for Lent for 40 days and I I just said no matter what happens I'm not going to complain if my leg is broken no matter what happens I'm not going to complain I stop complaining and it just it it altered the whole way I look at life because if somebody ask me how are you feeling I always say great and then I have to think to myself CU I don't want to lie to them why am I great well I'm great because I live at a time when
I can get orange juice whenever I want and antibiotics and I drive a car with it can go you know 80 M an hour and um you know I think of all I make the gratitude list and it just changed the way I interact with life and my son I had a son when Connor when he was 14 he just came back from fighting in Ukraine and he said to me when he was like 14 he said how come I've never heard you complain and I said well That's not my natural inclination I told him
what happened to me and then after that I never heard him complaining and he didn't tell me he was going to do it but he did this same thing and I can see how it attracts people to him you know that people just like like you I told a guy at a guy I'm sponsoring who looks like James Bond he's good-looking he's an athlete but all he does is wine I Said to him sadman never get laid you know if you want to be no I think that that that reminds me of my father I
can't ever think of a time I heard him actually complain about anything I mean that's an incredible quality is it yeah after I've only seen him cry once I've seen him cry once in my life but I've never seen him complain actually twice was the circumstance and he was the head of a security organization in Oakland California um he just always been for me as a title a businessman right he would go out and get accounts security accounts you know I grew up in a very militant household so my father was always the one training
the man right in the organization um you say security you mean like Black Panther Party or no like the foi so in Oakland California there was a place called your Blackson Bakery and you know these were black Muslims who Had their own businesses security organizations bakeries this before veganism was a but it was all natural health and sometime vegan foods and things of that nature uh there was EMF services and schools and things of that nature and my father ran the security portion of it and then also when it pertained to the training of the
men right because we would allow men to just come off the street whether they were felons or not they can come in as long As they took the training they can get a job so in the hierarchy of the organization my father was considered to be a captain right and so he would be one of the ones training the men and so growing up with him we used to go to meetings Monday nights where we would have to like train and we would learn business it would be spirituality to it right we would do militant
drills uh we would do boxing so as a child I grew up in this environment seeing real men Right and so it changed my Paradigm as far as how I see things growing up in St Louis to Oakland and being in a copious amount of different experiences I believe I have a unique perspective to where I can see things very well-rounded right so yeah my father it's hard for me to put a single title I just seen him be a man in my whole life was he a convert to naism yeah so he converted after
meeting my mother he Told me this today actually he was he was explaining how when he met my mother he knew he needed somebody to be right in his higher state of mind in order to have his children and and I don't believe he felt that he was in that state of mind to give that to her so he took her to the nation to see Minister Farhan speak and they soon this was in Oakland this was in Oakland I believe it was at Berkeley I believe he was speaking at Berkeley at the time so
they Both went to go um visit and hear him and then afterwards my mother converted first right and then my father came along with it but from what they tell me that they was already closely drawn into the teachings because it was already aligned with the way they thought about the World interesting you know when my dad my dad went to Oakland in 68 when he was running for president and he went to a very difficult meeting with a a black Panther party there which was very dominant in Oakland at that time yeah and he
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