Freedom Night in America // Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle // February 5, 2025

Thank you guys thank you please take a seat I have to say um Luke it feels good uh to have a president again doesn't it I got to tell you woo it's like a weight has been lifted off our shoulders I want to just say this night that we have here at Freedom night in America is is so important and we've been doing it it will be four years four years in May and this has become and thank you to Dream City for Continuing to host it and continuing to make this so powerful I think

it is one of the most if not the most powerful monthly Gathering of Christians in in the state if not in the country because this is broadcast all over the place I I want to say thank you to all of you that tuned out the noise of the media this last year and a half that went to work that registered voters that chased ballots that got your friends to go vote you Know we have not gathered since what happened in in November and of course a couple weeks ago and I want all of you to

just kind of take a moment and rejoice and say you know what you played a role in taking back this country and saving this country for your kids and your grandkids in fact Arizona best performing swing state of all the seven swing States biggest Improvement of any state 2020 versus 2024 5 and a half Point Victory and you look across the board guys it's also it was President Donald Trump's best performance ever in the state of Arizona 2016 2020 2024 and for those of you that maybe got some criticism in your local church had some

people say oh why are you getting involved in this now you can say well let me kind of go through the list in just the last couple of weeks we have a President that is doing so much that the left can't even remember all the reasons they're mad they can't keep up with him he's going at Trump speed let's just go to the list pardoned the pro-life Warriors that prayed outside of abortion clinics rescinded the Mexico City policy signed executive order saying no more funding of Dei or CRT in our schools Declared that there is

only male and female there are no more genders besides [Applause] that National Emergency on the southern border saying we're no longer going to allow the drugs and the crime and the guns to come into our communities here in Arizona mobilizing the military to help with that assistance also dropping all the federal charges around the whistleblowers that blew the whistle on All the chemical castr and one of my favorites president Donald Trump said in his executive order we are no longer going to allow The Butchery of our children under gender affirming care we're going to put

that in the rearview mirror a Prohibition on this transn that has been sweeping our schools and going after our kids and that is just in the last two and a half weeks today president Donald Trump signed an executive order saying that men will not Be allowed to compete in female sports and if you do that you lose all of your funding now I know most people are surprised by this because what I have just listed off is just everything he said he was going to do we're not used to that we're used to saying one

thing and then doing the other promises made Promises Kept but especially let this be a teaching moment to anyone that might be a Christian in your life that either did not vote or They skeptical about President Trump you can go back and say which is it God's purpose or plan for America is that kids get butchered in clinics or that it's outlawed that the pro-life Community is stood alongside where we have JD Vance speak at the March for Life or that we have the most pro-abortion Administration in history all of you can now rest easy

and say you know what all that work paid off that our country is improving we have a lot of work left to Go everybody there's a lot of work remaining but in these last two weeks we see this rapid speed of which we are operating and not to mention you got Elon Musk doing Elon Musk stuff just shutting down departments and deleting stuff you got to kind of love it because though you guys did not work as hard as you worked and we did not deliver this mandate just so that we could have more of

the same we wanted a restoration of the power going back to the American People now let me close with two thoughts and then I want to introduce our amazing guests here tonight the first thought is this is that all we had this amazing Victory presidentially let's be honest here in Arizona we especially have a lot of work to do a little sad subnote on this celebratory theme is that this state is now one of the most pro-abortion states in the country that passed proposition 139 and it's not because of all of you but the Church

here in Arizona was largely silent on trying to defeat proposition 139 we could not get most pastors or most churches to care about speaking out against it I see so many people here in the audience tonight Pastor Luke and Dream City were amazing Pastor Mark from Trinity was amazing and so many other people spoke out against 139 but if we are honest about bringing people to Ultimate purposes not just them voting Correctly but bringing them to Jesus which is the most important thing then we must look honestly and say why is it that not every

Church in Arizona spoke out against 13 39 so let this be yes a celebration but also motivation that we're going to continue to do this work and the work will start with the most important demographic that moved to the right so significantly you know baby boomers moved two points to the left while younger voters move 15 points to The right it's hard to believe but it's true there is a harvest waiting to happen and the church needs to step up and stand up and realize that gen Z is the most conservative generation history but they're

not yet the most Christian generation in history but they can be because conservatism can lead you towards Christianity and the church is just waiting hopefully to do something to bring these young people that are curious about ultimate topics and Ultimate purposes they're asking the right questions by what moral code do you live by what is right what is wrong what is a man what is a woman what is Holy what is profane by what standard do you operate what are the Ten Commandments is it right to murder is it okay to steal because what they

have been fed is a Non-Stop diet of materialistic moral relativism that do whatever you want whenever you want to do it and just get as much stuff as you Can and what is the result the most depressed suicidal anxious alcohol addicted and drug addicted generation in history when I show up to campuses we're drawing 5,000 6,000 students that are interested in these things but they're not hearing from the local church near enough on this however our guests tonight are two incredible people that are reaching G Z and I can tell you right now I I

know what it takes to reach the next Generation they are some Of the most well-known followed and let's just say respected leaders in the Christian space that have been doing this for 40 years and what an amazing example by the way of just doing the right thing not seeking internet stardom not doing it just to be famous and then one night all of a sudden you just kind of go super viral and it kind of Cascades they do a similar version of I do how many of you have seen me go to these campuses and

debate these kids Right okay now I do it on all topics politics and religion but they they go there first and foremost primarily for Jesus and they'll just hold court and they'll do it for three four days in a row that's why they're here in town at Arizona State University and they'll film it and these videos will go Bonkers on Tik Tok and they'll go viral on Instagram and then I have the question is why is not every Pastor in America doing this on their local college campus In the open air the way Jesus used

to holding Court taking questions trying to say what do you believe why do you believe it let's go after the truth of the matter and so these the this father son Duo I've got a chance to know over the last couple months I've seen their impact I see how they move the dial and they're very welln but they've never wanted to be welln which I think is a perfect example of two people that are that are servants for God's purposes That have acted obediently that want to see this country come back to Jesus not just

vote the right way which obviously we care about but that is that is only a means to an ultimate end so join me in welcoming cliff and Stewart connly [Applause] everybody that's a that's an impressive move isn't it one more time everybody how great are these guys so to we are going to do a short dialogue here and then extended question And answer because I think they're known for it I've asked I've answered a couple questions in my life um so we're gonna have some fun and so cliff and Stewart as I mentioned you guys

go to these campuses you engage in these dialogues why don't you quickly tell your story to someone who is not aware doesn't follow you who are you what do you believe please the floor is yours Stuart and I had the privilege of talking with Charlie on his podcast this afternoon And Charlie embarrassed me royally he asked me a bit about my past and how I on Earth got into doing this well when I was in seminary at Gordon Conwell in in up Massachusetts I got really bored because everybody was a Christian at Gordon Conwell and

God has called me to reach non-christians so I would leave Seminary on Friday night and go down to Inner City Boston and I would go into bars to share my Faith and there would be the Boston Celtics or the Bruins playing on the TV screen in a corner and every time the Bruins or Celtics lost some half drunk guy would stand up and curse God at the top of his lungs so I figured equal time if you're going to stand up and curse God at the top of your lungs I'm going to stand up and

say something positive about God at the top of mine and so I picked out the bar I was Going to preach in in inner city Boston parked my car and started walking towards the door and with each step I got more and more intimidated and I finally got to the bar door and I walked right past that bar door my knees were knocking I was so scared and intimidated and I walked around that block for about half an hour and finally I said Cliff you're defeated you're scared so I went back to the car and

I was just about to open the door When the Holy Spirit brought to my mind the words of the writer of Hebrews in Hebrews 11: 32-38 where he writes and what more shall I say I do not have time to tell about Gideon Samson bar Samson J jeepa David and the prophets who by faith conquered kingdoms administered Justice and gained what was promised who shut the mouths of lions quenched the fury of the flames and escaped the edge of the sword whose weakness was turned into Strength and it became powerful in battle and routed foreign

armies women received back their dead raised to life again and I'm saying okay bud that's what they did and you don't have the guts to walk into a bar in Boston and tell a bunch of Men on Vacation were looking for hookers that Jesus is the way the truth and the life so convicted of my lack of faith I turned around walked into the bar stood up and started excuse me guys John Writes in 1 John 4:10 This is Love not that we loved God but that God loved us and sent his son as an

atoning sacrifice for our sins Bart Turner comes running down the bar I said excuse me sir I'm just trying to tell these guys what means most in life knowing god as a personal friend he said you want to know what God is God's the cash register and I said man thank you for putting it so Bluntly and I'm convinced that God is not the cash register I'm convinced that's a hollow Idol and God loves us because God's a personal God and money's not personal God is personal money doesn't love you God loves you and money

can't give you life after death it takes a supernatural God to do that well he'd heard enough so he came around the bar grabbed my elbow and escorted me out I never knew that God was going to Open the door to do open air dialogues on University campuses but that was one of the ways that God used me Charlie in my past to prepare me for standing up on you University campuses and doing what we do and you've been doing this for how long that's a very personal question brother before you were born Charlie I've

been doing it for 44 years well before I was born [Applause] and I I I want to Ask you were doing this well before you were able to easily film them before there was an internet to spread them right at what point did you realize the wrinkle that these videos can go viral and reach millions of people outside of the dialogues on these campuses I never realized that I still don't even know how to turn the stuff on to watch it it's this guy right here who God used to put it all on these social

media platforms and uh I still don't know how To use my cell phone very well and he helps me I still believe that the gifts are active whether that's tongue speaking or prophecy I do not claim to have the gift of Prophecy though myself but the one potential time I had it was 10 years ago I said to my dad dad eventually this is going to get way past those who just show up way past I don't know how and so guys on his board even tried bet Black Entertainment to get give me an answer

On Black Entertainment that did not work so well and many other avenues they tried but I knew that there was something about Tik Tok and other social media platforms that had the potential to reach many many more college students and that there's that tremendous hunger that god-shaped hole that needs for every single person to be filled if they don't want to be depressed if they don't want to be alcoholics if they don't want to buy into a type of self- narcissism Where they walk away from their marriages and sure enough they've they've really grabbed on

to that and they want to be honest truth Seekers and they chase after somebody called Jesus Christ often times so so walk us through to someone who's not aware how does this work you show up you'll take questions it'll kind of it's a open air Circle what what is the how does this look in practice well it's really embarrassing to start that's why usually I have my my Dad or he's narciss you know not assistant masochistic thank you and he'll start and he'll say Stuart here we go because of social media doesn't happen the same

way anymore but before social media we would go out and there would be three people standing they're watching us and so Cliff would stand up and he would say I've been invited by this small organization to speak and he'll start speaking to me and three other people and we just look at them And and feel embarrassed ourselves but surely enough people would start to gather and the debate would begin but now we show up thanks to social media and there's already a few hundred people there at Arizona there were already think 500 students waiting when

we showed up so that is a total godsend from because of social media and your pastor introduced me to his wife she's called angel I think well I've married to an angel also let me Tell you why ruter University they invite me to speak there and nobody showed up nobody so I said okay love it's you and me so she stood about the edge of this platform here and I started preaching speaking do you know how dumb I felt speaking to one person and she stood there and nodded her head and Shrugged her shoulders and

and all of a sudden the doors of the cafeteria opened and all these ruter University Students came out of cafeteria after having eaten lunch and they all began to pile up and they all begin to fire questions so I got an angel also brother and uh she uh she's been amazing we were at UC Santa Barbara and she would mingle in the crowd and talk with the students about Jesus and you see Santa Barbara she's walking up to one woman who's sitting at the bottom of a tree and the woman looks at my wife my

angel my Sharon and says if you're coming to talk To me about Jesus I don't want to get lost and she sort of swallows her tongue and then turns around and walks away so it's not like everybody puts out the red carpet for us needless to say but we're called to be faithful and uh no we're not successful as America defin success as our culture defin success we're not successful but as Jesus define success which is faithfulness he who's faithful in little be faithful in much and he who's Unfaithful in little will be unfaithful in

much and so that's what we try to do we try to be faithful so when you visit these campuses I'm sure you encounter different counterfeit religions and there's the religion of Earth worshiping you know the religion of the cult of diversity manifest in certain ways the one that you've really pinpointed is narcissism is of self as it says in the Book of Judges man will do whatever is right in his own Eyes is that the predominant worldview that is now monopolizing the minds of college students and young people in America absolutely yes but because we're

here in the great state of Arizona and because I just got to talk about my angel we were at the University of Arizona and number University of Arizonia Tucson the wrong University here of AR right the wrong one all right not a fan of two son the Crowd was kind of small but a very thoughtful more liberal Muslim student said stepped out of the crowd and said Cliff I'm I'm really struggling with Islam and Jesus Christ what do you think and I started answering this question when suddenly a more devout Muslim student behind me said

that's wrong Jesus is not God so don't believe that and I tried to explain to him why I thought Muhammad was wrong well my wife was there my Angel and uh suddenly she steps out of the crowd and says well I know this guy is speaking pretty well and I know he doesn't want to offend you guys but let me tell you why I don't believe in Muhammad and she began to outline some of Muhammad's sexual practices well I mean there was one father of a Muslim student in the crowd who went ballistic and his

son had to drag him off he was so Angry and it ended well but it was intense and Shar and my wife began to understand Cliff the reason you don't go after Muhammad directly is because you want to try and show philosophically why Muhammad made a huge mistake in denying the deity of Christ because Muhammad was born in 570 ad lived to about 632 ad which means he obviously never met Jesus and he says Jesus is not God but the eyewitnesses who saw Jesus who heard him they insisted Jesus claimed to be God Now who

you going to trust when you want to find out about an historical person a guy who lived over 500 years after him never met him or the eyewitnesses that's a no-brainer guys you're going to trust the eyewitnesses you sure so individualism is growing the individualistic nature of man and woman it's all about self-improvement so get a life coach and improve yourself some of that's great some of it's not so good and so the Culture of narcissism that was actually a book that came out a few decades ago is more relevant now than ever there's something

called client centered therapy which is if you're having a tough marriage turn to pornography if you're having a tough marriage where you know your wife is really really getting in the way too much just divorcer and so these people come to me sobbing because a spouse left because their therapist said to leave because it's all About you it's client centered so it's just about the client so they come to church and they're wondering what in the world happened well Jesus Christ says the opposite Jesus Christ says it's not about self it's about the other and

we see when that occurs well now you're going to have an incredible connection with your spouse with your friendships those relationships will remain resilient they will remain sticky you're not just going to depart and just leave Whenever you want because it's all about the focus on the self that's the challenge when you have a Caitlyn Jenner say in order to get through the Pearly Gates you have to find yourself Caitlyn I don't really know what you mean by that find myself you have to yes you have to find your authentic self okay well my authentic

self is to skimp on my taxes my authentic self is to throw way more elbows and Haymakers on the basketball court when you tick me off my Authentic self is to live selfishly that's my authentic self Caitlyn Jesus Christ says no that's your fleshly side walk in the spirit which is love other people even love your enemy and that's how you try Truly find your true [Applause] self I would add that uh Jenner's authentic self his named Bruce but that's a separate issue um so I do want to get to some Q&A the let's talk

about all the ways that this manifests though Because the ultimate form of self-expression or narcissism and this will sound provocative but I think you'd appreciate this with your psychological background is self-indulgence then self harm and then suicide would you agree that eventually if you only think about yourself and not about serving others then you you could extrapolate how you get to be the most medicated the most alcohol addicted the most depressed the most self-centered And then yes the most suicidal generation in the history of the species absolutely the book meditation of Hope by Andrew Deano

that incredible sociologist at NYU just chart the history of our our country first we were living for God then it switched more so to patriotism and living for a nation that was the focus and now it's focused on self and so that self-indulgence you look at any country and the countries that have more material wealth and Comfort those are the countries that have higher percentage of suicides and depression so when that self-indulgence begins now all of a sudden you have that focus on me myself and I and we know Jesus was exactly right if you

don't focus on something outside of yourself especially the God who created you things are going to fall apart and the do you have anything to add to that or no okay so in it's perfect perfectly said in in modernity it it goes even a Step further though that if you are to ever claim that there is an objective right or wrong or an objective path for a person than you are a hater and that you shall stop and that is the birth of moral relativism would you agree that that is one of the top objections

that you see on the college campus absolutely yes but then you think of the irony the professor stands up in the morning and says we're all beasts there's no God it's all evolution he Says that to his students in the morning and morality is relative but then the professor goes home at night turns on the news and old Blas all stinking Hamas and Hezbollah and Israel wow what a bunch of evil people excuse me we're all just beasts Professor that's what you said in the morning but you see you can't live that out you go

home you watch what Hamas and Hezbollah do some to some Jews and all of a sudden you're realizing it's not all relative because my blood is boiling because my conscience has kicked into gear my rational mind is kicked into gear and what they're doing murdering each other slaughtering each other attacking each other is really evil oh no I've got a violent contradiction in my life I taught a bunch of University students this morning that it's all relative they're all just animals evolved to a Higher order but I cannot live that out because my conscience kicks

into gear when I'm confronted by grotesque evil I don't care if it's in Ukraine or in the promised land or wherever it is my home my backyard evil is real and that's why I don't look into my wife's face and say well from my perspective when you were mean to me it didn't really matter because it's all relative I can't live that way if my wife is mean to me if I Am mean to my wife we will use the word should and ought and when we use those words should and ought we're appealing to

a standard outside of ourselves and we're saying you should not have been mean like that you should be loving and kind so we can talk all we want about how relative morality is it's impossible to live it out so I think moral relativism you can go back to the Declaration of Independence when Thomas Jefferson originally penned it was not Self-evident that all men are created equal it was actually sacred it was the sacred nature that all men are created equal and then Benny Franklin comes in and says no let's make it self-evident and so now

there's the opportunity for moral relativism and subjectivism to come in and say yeah it's obviously self-evident we can just come from our rationale that you and I are created equal no where where do you get that from if there is no God if you Are not created in the image of God with indelible amounts of worth and value then there's no reason why I can't say I have more money than you so I'm more valuable than you are and that's the challenge which I like Thomas Jefferson more than Benny Franklin because of that I I

agree and and to go a step F that's exactly what the prophet Isaiah would say man woe to those who would call evil good or good evil because at some point you need you need objective definitions Of these things second point on that and then we'll wrap and go to questions moral relativism is inherently ter rical because if you're teaching an entire generation that there is no right or wrong then eventually a strong man will rise up and say that I am right and this is wrong it is the gateway drug towards a dictatorship which

is the plan by the way how do you then prevent against the dictatorship well just look at the nation of Israel they had no king they Had no government they had no police force or a standing army for 400 years why because everyone knew the law in their heart and they self policed it so again that's an extreme example however look at the context of which our country was founded it was a virtuous and religious citizenry in fact Adams wrote that the constitution was written wholly for a moral religious people it's wholly inadequate for the

people of any other and the reason why we are now entering a Post-constitutional moment and we're trying to bring it back is because our country is not moral and religious therefore the Constitution is inadequate be doesn't fit it is the great problem of our time because well you can't trust people to own guns because they're not more and religious or you have to spy on them all the time because they're not more and religious and we can't have you say whatever you want to say whenever you want to say because the first Amendment because you're

not moral religious and so the the framework of our government is incompatible if you have that kind of moral decline let me just ask this question then we'll do uh we'll open it up to the audience what gives you the most hope that you are seeing on these visits that you're making well the most hope is the student news comes up to me last night in the dark and says I came to faith in Christ within the past year and he's from India And I've come here to ASU to study and I just want to

thank you and he gives me a big hug and he starts crying his eyes out what gives me the most hope is last fall at uh at the University of Mississippi a young woman steps out of the crowd and says my professor this morning told me that God is like Santa Claws and the Bible is a good fairy tale and with tears coming down her cheek she says come on help me so we Talk about the evidence for the reliability of the New Testament gospels and she begins to realize it's not mythology it's not a

fairy tale it's historically accurate Matthew Mark Luke and John and there's evidence that God is alive and well God is not Santa Claus there's no support no evidence to support Santa Claus coming down your chimney every Christmas Eve and if you do have some evidence I would love to hear it afterwards there's a boatload of Evidence that God exists that he's real the psalmist puts it to poetry in psalm 19 the heavens declare the glory of God the skies proclaim the work of his hands day after day they pour forth speech night after night they

display knowledge which is simply a poetic way of saying this universe is too finely tuned for it to be the result of Chaos an accident there's got to be an intelligent mind behind it [Applause] All I'm just really excited about how serious these kids are taking their faith how they want to break out of Habitual cycles of sin how they want to break out of something like pornography which is rampant on college campuses how they want to be Salt and Light in such a way where politics obviously Senator bass said is the only thing that

politics can't heal is loneliness that's where faith comes into play and so when we are Salt and Light salt gets into Other people's painful issues and that's what these students want to do with each other as they grow in faith we have others who come up to us sobbing many of them saying that what you shared with the gospel has actually saved Our Lives we wanted to take our lives but because of this gospel and what Jesus did for us we now have a foundation a real reason to live okay so we want to get

to the open mic couple things I see a lot of students in The audience way more than we usually so sorry Boomers this tonight is not your night uh secondly though uh they get so mad when I say that but it please it secondly this we do not want to turn this obviously into into a debate but if you are searching or have serious challenging questions for you personally or someone you care about please try to tell our question ushers we want to try to move you up in line I see a lot of familiar

faces that's great We're going to be keep on doing these Freedom nights throughout the year but if you're here questioning or wrestling with something that our two amazing guests can help with let's use those PL this platform here tonight I think you guys would agree that's the best use of our time tonight so let's go to the young man in the blue shirt and then we'll go uh to the young lady here so all right uh my name is uh Joey I'm a vice president at our high school for The Turning Point chapter of Raper

Creek um my question is when we have teachers preaching us something that we don't believe in politically and religion how do we counteract that since everything is based on a GPA point and that's our future is with us uh writing something like an essay and we get a bad grade based on that all right I got bad news for you sir when you have a professor who is against God against Christ I think it's great that you write a paper why you do believe that God exists why you do believe in Jesus Christ but I

can promise you sir you're going to have to study harder to pull that kind of paper off because right from the get-go that Professor is not going to be totally objective now there are few exceptions to that but the majority of professors who I talk to are not totally objective it's called called the myth of Objectivity I'm totally open-minded I'm totally objective really I'm not I doubt you are we all have our prejudices beginning with me we all have our biases beginning with me so yes objectivity is something I strive for and it's good to

be objective and I want to be objective but come on I've got my own biases so because of that you're going to have to study harder work harder think harder and write that paper better in in order to get a good grade on that but I think You should do it because that's the way you learn and that's the way I learned I got blown out of the water by my teachers in high school I got blown out of water by my professors at Davidson in North Carolina they were far more intelligent than I will

ever be but you see they forced me to think they forced me to work through these issues and come up with better answers I would just add you said something that I'm going to challenge you said well our future is Your GPA your future is not your G EPA your future is whether or not you know Christ and your character your grades mean nothing actually they don't mean anything so I I I just encourage everyone in the audience if your parents are telling you your grades matter most your parents are not doing a good job

raising your Character Matters way more than your GPA your character and so if you're going to be graded down for proclaiming Christ Blessed are you who are persecuted in the name of Jesus so keep fighting hi my name is Kaye I'm from Tennessee originally um I just was wondering I've been going through some personal issues lately and I was thinking I was having a battle with myself the other night um how am I able to tell if what I'm going through is God you know strengthening me and teaching me a lesson how can I tell

if it's that or if it's just the devil trying to reach Me you have a strong devotional life you're Tethered to the word you have you have a very strong group of Christian friends and then you understand what is God's real purpose for your life and that's directly out of first Thessalonians chapter 4 to be Sanctified which is character to grow in the fruits of the spirit of love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and Self-control and as you do that then God Reveals His purpose through that so don't go directly to oh gosh

what is God doing here or is this the devil no grow in wisdom and the more you grow in wisdom through those four steps that I was giving now you'll understand no this is definitely God but remember Paul at traz and at other places had open and closed doors well look sister if Paul had closed doors you And I are probably going to have some closed doors and so some will be open and will know that that's God's purpose but then at other times they'll close but know that he's going to have a purpose Beyond

those closed doors and I'll just add one thing that is far more technical which is I'm not going to put you on the spot but I imagine you're on social media and you use social media we dramatically underestimate the torment that social media has on young women I Encourage you to read the book anxious Generation by Jonathan height if you read that you would say that we should not allow any young lady to have social media on their phone the psychological damage that it is doing and so I encourage you to do one thing I'm

not going to tell you to stop using it find out and track every day how much time that I spend on social media apps if it is more than 20 minutes collectively then the studies show that you're going To be much more in places of self-doubt and depression and also you're living more through a screen than in real life so I hope that's somewhat helpful because it actually might be a source of a lot of the issue so thank [Applause] you hello um so what do you think about churches that preach the Prosperity Gospel are

you familiar with preachers like Joel Olstein if so do you agree or disagree with their teachings how would You approach preaching to those who follow them and how would you teach about the concept of longsuffering and contrast I make it a real clear point in my life not to critique other preachers so I'm not going to say anything and I'll tell you why I'll tell you one of the reasons when I started doing open air on college campuses there were Hellfire Brimstone preachers who went out there and told everybody they were Going to hell in

a hand cart and Christians were in shock and I didn't agree with their approach but I met people who came to faith in Christ through those Hellfire Brimstone guys so therefore I learned God uses a lot of different people a lot of different ways and I am not going to put myself in a position of superior I ority and judge others second point do I have some very real strong disagreements with a lot of ministers with the majority of religion Professors on campuses every State University campus in the United States absolutely if I want to

hard debate I don't go to the science department if I want a hard debate I go to the religion department and I debated a religion professor at Columbia University in New York City who was an atheist and it was an intense debate I hope you caught the irony religion Professor who's an atheist okay so now the Prosperity Gospel I have no Problem addressing it's really really sad that Jesus didn't have enough Faith it's really sad that Jesus died such a horribly painful death you know Jesus if you just would have believed a little more deeply

God would have saved you from the cross guys that's ludicrous totally ludicrous let's be real clear I worship A suffering God who became man in Jesus Christ and he got the snot kicked out of him and he was nailed to a cross and he died one of the most miserable deaths possible now let's talk about the demographic in the world what has the highest percentage of followers of Jesus women of color now let's talk about the demographic in the United States that has the highest percentage of followers of Jesus African-American Women why because it's amazing

how when you're getting a snot kicked out of you and you look at a suffering servant Jesus Christ and all of a sudden the lights begin to go on there is a God who is willing to suffer and enters this world filled with suffering and on my behalf he sacrifices his life on a cross you see ma'am when I stand before a statue of Buddha it's incredible there he is little smile Across the face arms folded legs crossed and we're supposed to say oh wow but then I stand before the cross and I see a

God who became a human being and got the snot kicked out of him he sacrifices his life and he goes through the hell of the Cross so I don't have to go to hell instead I can go to heaven and I can promise you my knees begin to shake and then I read the Negro spirituals Were You There Were You There When They Crucified My Lord Were You There When They Crucified My Lord a sometimes it causes me to tremble tremble tremble Were You There When They Crucified My Lord now I don't know what kind

of life you live but I can promise you my life has a lot of good in it thank you Lord and it's got a boatload of suffering in it and I can connect with a suffering Savior Jesus Christ thank you how we doing man hi my name is Micah and I just had a Question about tithing cuz in the Bible says 10 give 10% but back in the olden days that also covered your taxes and your charity so would it be different for now so the Levites for their good work in the Old Testament the

tithe was supposed to be 23% but I wouldn't get too caught up on 10% or 23% I would look at the woman with the two might and that she gave out of her Poverty not out of her wealth that she was willing to make that kind of sacrifice because of the joy of knowing Jesus and so when it comes to your giving make sure it's out of that Joy rather than a type of obligation because so often Christians will focus on I got to just I just got a tithe and they feel guilty if they

can't hit the 10% or 12% or 15% but understand if Jesus went through the hell of the Cross if he really did That for us then a natural heart response should be wow I want to give and I want to keep giving so it's a great way to figure out are you maturing in the faith or not with how quickly you joyfully are able to give and that's not just monetarily by the way I would also look at that relationally how quickly are you able to forgive somebody because of what Jesus did for you so

I always look at Monet monetarily as well as relationally how quick are you able to Joyfully respond to somebody who criticized you who bullied you at school how quickly are you able to to give despite it even hurting at [Applause] times Cliff Stuart thank you for coming um my question is how does one escape the cycle of Shame and guilt when you slip up not to say that we shouldn't learn from experience because it is inevitable that we all do sin but rather instead of starting from Rock Bottom Like a lot of people tend to

think and subject themselves to how can we pick our our eles back up from where we left off and continue our spiritual journey great question first point oh man you're into self-degradation you're into repenting no no I'm into understanding that when God created us he did a beautiful job we have been created in the image in the likeness of God and we have horribly defaced that Image when I Repent I'm saying I am not not perfect I blew it I did wrong my guilt convicts me of that and because I'm responsible for what I did

I am asking God to forgive me I'm asking you to forgive me for the dastardly thing I did to you that is an emphasis on the value of my life the value of your life and it's an emphasis on how God created us for a purpose and sin is violating that purpose and I want to get back into the purpose for which God created me second point after repenting I have to accept the Forgiveness of God and to be honest with you at times that's difficult for me the reason it's difficult for me is because

I can be a bit of a perfectionist and I can say oh no I can't believe what I did yesterday I never thought I would do that I am a total loser I'm a total hypocrite and it goes down From there it ain't pretty but notice what I'm doing I am elevating the approval of my perfectionistic approach to life above the approval of God I want my perfectionistic thinking to say oh Cliff you're a great guy so I'm going to go through the depths of shredding myself which is really false guilt because I want the

approval of my perfectionist IC standard that I have created see that's wrong because the Approval of God is far more important than the approval of my perfectionism or the approval of my family or the approval of my culture or the approval of my Society it is the approval of God that I need to Value most highly and Jesus communicates you repent of your sin and I forgive you and I've got to accept that forgiveness rejoice in that forgiveness turn away from the sin and by God's grace live a different Way thank you hi there uh

I was just gonna I have a buddy that's uh living a 50-50 life basically he's going to church and saying he's a Christian but also when you see him on nons Sundays any other day he's out vaping drinking and just living a non-Christian life uh I was just asking for the best uh advice you could give them so we talked to a few different quarterbacks who were recently in the Playoffs the college level and they were talking about how they were living that lifestyle and they said all the other teammates were doing as well but

calling themselves Christians so it's cultural Christianity they said when they started I'm thinking one specifically when he started dedicating his life more so to Christ they just followed and so what's going to speak loudest to your friend is how you live you know it's preach Christ use words if [Applause] necessary so man if you are living in a way where you're dedicated to Christ wanting to grow in him especially if your buddy sees when you hit really downfalls in your life when you suffer and he sees that you have a type of buoyancy about you

a type of Joy despite the suffering he's going to want to start living a more consistent life he's going to finally find wow the light is way more attractive than the darkness Even if it's kind of cool right now to mess around even if it's kind of cool right now to drink under underage drink whatever it might be eventually the lightness is the light is always more attractive than the darkness so just hold out hope correct when you can but UL imately support him and love him that's going to be more attractive for his own

change than just trying to change him by berating [Applause] Him I've been a Believer for a few years now and I've started to become more lukewarm even though I know Christianity is the truth and have Christian friends around me which makes me want to be more faithful but I still lack that motivation um how can I and others who have become warm get off the fence and gain the motivation and discipline to become more in line with the Christian that I want to be thanks for your vulnerability and honesty I respect that Highly first point

think think hard Albert kamu the Great atheistic existentialist philosopher wrote a book called leton in French The Stranger first lines of that book are the words of a young teenage boy who says yesterday mother died or was it today life is meaningless there is no God your birth is an accident your death is an accident And the only thing that lies between those two accidents is another accident your life my life Jesus Christ says no Jesus Christ says you're not an accident you're a human being created by God for a purpose so what you got

to do is you got to think if Jesus is telling the truth truth then my life is not meaningless I was made for a purpose I better not waste my life but if Jesus is not the truth then I better do exactly what Albert kamu said when he said the only question modern man must answer is why not commit suicide because if it's true that you're just an accident if it's true that your life is ultimately meaningless why continue to suck wind why continue to eat three meals a day it's all a colossal joke and

David Hume the great Scottish philosopher pointed out do you know that the Universe doesn't think you matter any more than an oyster and he's correct in his atheism if there is no God it really doesn't matter whether I step on you or an oyster you both are meaningless and you know you can't live that out so it's that type of thinking that has helped me think through the issue secondly emotionally you think about love you think about the ability to Care and if you come from a home where Mom and Dad didn't love each other

and they didn't love you I'm really sorry I know that hurt but I can promise you there's a God at the center of the cosmos who really does love you and when you begin to watch people who really sacrifice for each other and who really love each other that is incred incredibly powerful and the reason that I'm excited about Jesus is because he loves me so Much and so when I get to hold his little daughters in my arms as little babies and walk up and down the driveway I sing to him Jesus loves me

this I know for the Bible tells me so little ones to him belong they are weak but he is strong yes Jesus loves me yes Jesus loves me yes Jesus loves me the Bible tells me so now why on Earth are you doing that Cliff because I know they're going to go to school at some point and I know they're Going to get the snot kicked out of them because they're not pretty enough or they're not smart enough or they're not athletic enough or they're not artistic enough or they're not a good enough ballet dancer

or whatever and they got to have as the Bedrock of their life the fact that there's a God at the center of the cosmos who really loves them and if they have that they got the most valuable thing in the world well think about your life what is the most Important thing in your life it's your friends it's your family who loves you and if there is a God who really loves you gosh you can't be lukewarm you got to love him passionately because that's the most important thing and then thirdly the way you get

out of lukewarmness is not just by thinking it's not just by working through emotions it's also through your will you've got to learn to submit to God's Will oh that's dirty submitting to God's will no it's not dirty it's the path to Freedom you see if a train is running along two tracks and the train says I find this existence very limiting two metal tracks and I got to stay right here the moment that train flips off the tracks is that a flip to Freedom nope that's a flip to destruction you and I were created

to run along the tracks of God's will to Flip off the tracks of God's will onto the land of self-centeredness is not a flip to Freedom it might be thrilling but It ultimately leads to destruction God is good and because he's good I want to do his will I want to surrender to him I want to live a life of purpose the purpose he created me for I think those three things will help you move out of lukewarmness as you think as you get in touch with your emotions and As you handle your will wisely

what do you what do you say to a newly born Christian keep growing keep growing and going and for a newly born Christian it's important to let him or her know not to get caught on the Ecstasy wheel the emotional High because there are too many newly born Christians who all of a sudden I got baptized I got baptized cliff and Stewart this is the most Amazing thing three weeks later well I don't feel it anymore so I don't know if God even exists so firstly help that person understand it's not just about this emotional

High we want to grow in the joy of the Lord as our strength that is crucial that is the Bedrock but our emotions come and go they fade and that's why David throughout the Psalms when he prays why are you downcast on my soul why so Disturbed within me put your hope in God for you praise him my savior And my Lord praise the Lord oh my soul all my inmost being praise His holy name see his emotions were dying because his son was trying to kill him his boss was trying to kill him he

went through an adulterous relationship he had a lot of reasons emotionally to take off and leave God so help your friend understand it's not about the emotional High you want to be happy in Christ for sure don't get me wrong on that but at times you're going to feel distant from God And just rely on his promises rely on the evidence of something like the resurrection and how that occurred rather than it's always just going to be nice flowers so start there and then move to help him know that Christianity is all about relationships and

community it's all about what's going on right here right now it's not a lone wolf trip if it turns into a lone wolf trip that's how the devil gets to you after Jesus's baptism what happens he is immediately Led by the Devil by the spirit even Into the Wilderness he is by himself the devil wants to get you when you're by yourself he wants to tempt you and he wants to accuse you and then he wants you ultimately get you to disbelieve and yet Jesus conquered that by was what quoting scripture at the Devil so

that would be the last one get your budy to memorize scripture he did it with me I hated it early on but I couldn't be more grateful now and my grandma died with Scripture on her lips the only thing she could say was memorizing the scripture that she had learned oddly enough a little fun factoid friederick n the king of atheism died quoting scripture oddly enough talking to God he didn't want to but there's something about scripture when it's your blood it automatically will come out of you and will chart your life in such a

way where you will remain in the faith if you honor God with [Applause] It firstly I love y'all I've spent so many nights like listening to the wisdom you guys speak and I just want to ask I have a lot of friends who used to be really close to Christ and are now turning away and or have fully turned away I still care for them and I go to ASU and I have to work with uh and be around people who have interesting views on life with God so I just want to ask how do

you respond to someone who says that they don't need God to live a moral And fulfilling life okay you're right you don't need God in order to Define your own purpose in life you can create your own purpose your own meaning but what you have to acknowledge is it's just a taste like I prefer broccoli to asparagus I prefer loving people to hating people today but tomorrow if I choose to prefer hating people to loving people that's cool one is not right the other's not wrong it's all just a cosmic Crapshoot so to try and

take people what they say seriously and then take what they say to its logical conclusion and a world without God logically leads to despair meaninglessness hopelessness yes even suicide and so once again I'm trying to Rattle people's cage to explain what do I believe why do I believe it I was invited after doing open air Columbia in New York City to to join a class and it was a fascinating Class at Columbia on the difference between zingle and Calvin's view of War and the teacher was brilliant he was a post-doc student from England and after

the class I walked with him down the stairs out of this building there Columbia and I said excuse me sir can I ask you one question he said sure fire I said what are you living for and what's the evidence because that was an amazing class you just let in there and I'm very impressed with you Sir and this young gentleman said I'm not a good person to ask that of well that's scary that's called an unexamined life what are you living for and please don't tell me oh I'm agnostic I'm not living for anything

oh no no no no look how you're dressed look how you articulate you are living for something or someone you're highly motivated so please don't give me this line oh I'm not living for anything I'm just agnostic I don't know Anything well you wouldn't be a student at this school if you weren't living for anything you motivated so the challenge for me is and I think for you as well to ask hard questions and then to listen to feel around the rim of a life come to the crack which is exactly what Jesus did with

a woman outside the town of sikar in John chapter 4 and he basically finds out and tells her you know ma'am you've been trying to fill that god-shaped Vacuum at the center of your being with the deepest human relationship possible the sexual relationship it's failed five times you're on your Sixth Man how does it feel pretty empty everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again but whoever I but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst indeed the water I give him will become a spring of water Welling up to everlasting life

all right let's think together what are you living for what's the evidence of what you are living for is true I live for Jesus Christ because the evidence of his life teachings death and Resurrection the evidence of his sinless life ethical genius as expressed in The Sermon on the Mount Matthew 56 and 7 evidence of the way he died nail to and Cross Beam instead of cursing his enemies the way I would he prays father Forgive them for they know not what they do and the evidence of his resurrection clearly points to his trustworthiness his

credibility in a way that no other option is supported you're going to live for something you're going to have motive you're going to Define your life go ahead Define it but you got to consider Jesus Christ because the evidence is he's more reliable he's more trustworthy he's more credible than any of the Options thank you I just wanted to say real quick thank you for all three of you guys for what you've done Charlie thank you specifically you've been really huge for me especially in the election cycle and I just wanted to ask a question

from my non-Christian friend he couldn't be here today but I'll just quote what he said if you are able to ask him a question which is just all three of you guys ask him one for me about whether Heaven is a real physical Place you live in like paradise or is it more of like a figure of speech and there isn't a place that you literally see in our excuse me in our in if I can borrow one of his lines I do not know and I don't think anybody can give you a specific picture

of Heaven the Bible's pretty quiet about it and yet I love when Jesus talks about in in John 14 in my father's house there are many rooms and I go and I prepare prepare a Place for you okay I love that I don't know if there's literally going to be a house with rooms but I believe that that's a very beautiful picture so that's one very metaphorical terminology two Heaven is not going to be some type of floating ethereal Dimension out there no Heaven is going to be this Earth redeemed changed and made new [Applause]

again thirdly it's going to be Rel see a lot of these atheists out there Love showing up and saying oh yeah you believe in this little kind of ethereal existence after you die where we're all going to be strumming little hearts on clouds and we're all going to be babies no we're going to be able to recognize each other and it's going to be relational connection we're actually going to be able to have relationships there that's why you were created to love and to be loved and that love would last forever well you can't have

love if You don't have physical bodies and relationships like we do so there's a reason why Jesus created us as such lastly and this is more so for you just remember Philippians 3:20 our citizenship is in heaven and we eagerly await a savior from there the Lord Jesus Christ bro you got to remember that one because for me too often I think my citizenship is here too often I am like the disciples who went out and cast out demons and then came back and they were All pumping their chest but Jesus said Rejoice not that

you're able to do so Rejoice that your names are written in the Book of Life life your citizenship is ultimately in heaven and if you know that to the bottom of your heart that will always give you an identity that is secure in Christ and can face anything hi I'm Addie I'm 13 years old and I wanted to ask how do you deal with students who will try to disregard your religion or how to learn how to back up Your faith and represent yourself as a Christian if they're standing and feeling a little secure and

okay and if they're obnoxious enough I like to go after them and the way I'm most recently going after him is the following you want peace and I want peace inside and outside the peace that's Offered in a secular world is don't think about your death instead party party party have sex with as many people as you [Music] can go on as many expens ifications as you can and don't think Jesus Christ says no Jesus says you got to think because life can be very good and life can be very painful peace I leave with

you my peace I give To you I do not give to you as the world gives do not let your hearts be troubled do not be afraid now why are you and I afraid because we made the mistake of thinking we don't need God because we made the mistake of thinking we're tough we can handle anything we're autonomous We're All American but all of a sudden we're confronted by our finiteness we're finite we got to date with death The elasticity is leaving my legs I used to be able to jump higher and run faster I'm

decomposing I'm still moving some dirt around but one day the dirt will be moving me around like it or not I'm very finite I'm very temporal and when you grapple with your finiteness with the fact you do have a date with death all of a sudden you begin to realize oh shoot I can't ultimately control it and all of a sudden you got to go back and you got to ask do I need God or don't I and you begin to realize oh gosh I really do need God I really do need Christ because I'm

very finite and if there's an eternal all powerful God whose faithful and just who really loves me then I need to know him and I need to rest in his love in his Hope For Eternity in heaven as Stuart was just Talking about and that is where peace is found so it's ironic that peace in our culture is do not think versus Jesus who says think think about reality which is you are finite God is the infinite Eternal god build your life with him as your foundation for that is where real peace is found hey

uh my name is pal I'm a big fan and my question was so Like have sometimes I'm praying and I'm like dear God but then like in the back of my head there's like a voice that says like God ain't real and I'm like is that my fault or like and if it is could I like is there a way I could help with that well that's the class of 300 2035 Stuart go to it thank you sir I get that same thing and I'm a pastor so don't worry buddy you probably just haven't been

sleeping enough or or It could be your own neurochemicals in a different way it could be any number of reasons or it could be the devil tempting you in some sort of way but often times when I get up on a stage to speak or a Sunday morning to preach I'll have a voice in my head saying you don't deserve to be up here you can't preach you don't believe this stuff so that's the voice I have so I am totally with you when it comes to this voice of doubt that's nagging look if we

Believe that God is real you got to believe that the devil is real the Devil comes up quite a bit in the Bible and so the devil's going to be tempting you he's going to be messing with you but also take that voice which is some doubt there's probably some intellectual side of that you seem like a smart kid there's an intellectual side of that which is you're doubting your faith and don't let that doubt gnaw at you in such a way where you beat up on yourself let That doubt push you like it pushed

doubting Thomas Thomas doubted at first he doubted what his friends were telling him about the resurrection of Jesus Christ and then he obviously doubted Jesus himself but then Jesus shows up right in front of him and physically presents his body to him and says check out these nail prints in my hand check out this wound the spear wound in my side stop doubting and believe but Thomas wasn't scolded for his doubt see Your atheist buddies sometimes will say oh see doubting Thomas you're not allowed to doubt you're not allowed to have that voice but no

Jesus slowly brought Thomas along and then said stop down outing so allow that voice to ask questions about faith about Christ for that way it's going to grow you in the faith but don't ever let that voice just remain that voice in terms of doubting to the point of saying oh I can't believe this anymore because this voice Is here thank you we're going to do two more and then would you be willing to help lead maybe an alter call there's a lot of guests here and maybe Luke can come up as well so let's

do two more and then we'll do that yes guys so I actually was at ASU the other day so I might not be one of your favorite students because you didn't pick on me but uh this is my attempt to asking you guys a question so um yeah I just want To see if you guys could talk about how confident you were in like the Bibles that we use every day just because there's uh Even in our historical findings like the Dead Sea Scrolls or codec anticus they don't really contain like the Book of Revelation

or Esther for example so I just want to see what you guys thought about like how confident we can be as Christians in the scriptures that we do have if anybody ever asks you why do you Trust the Bible to be the word of God I wouldn't answer that question I said I'm not asking you to believe the Bible's a word of God I could never show you that any book is a word of God but I can give you evidence that the gospels are historically reliable I have four tests that I use to determine

historicity of any book if you don't like my test no problem but you better come up with your own test to determine whether any book The Bible the Quran US History African History whether the text is reliable my four tests are internal consistency are there contradictions within the text no no contradictions in the gospels different perspectives you bet two angels at an empty tomb one Angel at an empty tomb different perspective the dude is not saying there was only one Angel at the empty tomb and the other guy says no there were two no there

was an angel and there were two angels different perspective we want that Second test literary style Once Upon A Time In the Land of Nod wink and blink and an not took a boat ride yeah that's sweet sweet fairy tale that's not the way the gospels are written the gospels are written at this time in this place with these people around Jesus said this and did that it clearly reads like reportage historical narrative is the literary style third test archaeology are we talking about the island of Atlantis out in the ocean that none of Us

can verify no we're talking about Bethlehem Nazareth Jerusalem Rome archaeologically verifiable places and people tiberious Caesar Pontius Pilate fourth test oh but come on man come on you played the game telephone you know you whisper the ear secret in the ear of the person next to you they whispered in the or the person next to them and by the time the secret reaches the end of the circle it's totally perverted yes I played that game no it's not the way we Have the gospels today the gospels that we have in English today are based on

over 5,800 Greek manuscripts or pieces of manuscript dated from the 2 through the 10th Century ad all agreeing to an infant tesalon you the Bible is a word of God no I have not have I shown you that the gospels of Matthew Mark Luke and John are reliable yes I have therefore simply read the gospels as history And ask yourself does the historical evidence of the way Jesus lived his life the content of his ethical teaching the way he died loving and forgiving his enemies and the way he rose from the dead point to him

being trustworthy or does it not does the evidence point to him being a quack or the truth it's a no-brainer you die and rise from the dead I promise to listen very carefully to everything you have to say last question Hi guys uh thank you for coming I just wanted to ask I have this Mormon friend and we uh we get into a lot we debate and it's kind of hard because they already consider themselves a Christian and we basically came up this deal where I go to his church he goes to my church and

I was going to ask is that okay like am I going about this right is there another way that I can show them the light without necessarily going to church is that a bad thing I was in a Hindu temple not too long ago so no I don't believe it's a bad thing I think it's a great way to witness and start a healthy discussion get on his Turf be all things to all people be in the world but not of the world be like Jesus go to the parties and understand that there's an ultimate

wedding Feast waiting for us but that a lot of these parties here are going to be experiencing Adu are not those ultimate that Ultimate Party which is the wedding feast and so yes enter Into all of those difficult awkward situations environments and share truth and be willing to put it all on the line for Christ awesome thank you can you lead us in [Applause] a possibly you're here tonight and uh maybe this bit about Jesus is making more sense than ever before to you and possibly the holy spirit is tugging on your heart for you

to make your own Decision to put your faith in Christ I'm going to lead in a very short simple prayer it's not a magical formula obviously but it is a genuine heart cry to ask Christ for forgiveness and to accept that forgiveness to put your faith and trust in him that he really did die on a cross for you for me to pay the penalty for your wrongdoing and you're going to trust him for heaven and thirdly I'm going to lead in a prayer for you to say All right Lord please help me fill me

with your Holy Spirit give me the power to become the beautiful person you created me to be and if you're at the point in your life where such a decision would be appropriate I would encourage you to pray silently after me this is between you in Christ and nobody else let's bow and pray together Lord Jesus my conscience has informed me that times I've done wrong wrong I am genuinely sorry please forgive me thank you that you promised to I want to accept that forgiveness Lord Jesus I trust that when you bled and died on

that cross you did it for me for everyone to pay the penalty from my wrongdoing I trust you Jesus For the gift of eternal life thank you from the bottom of my heart that I matter so much to you that you want me to spend eternity with you and now Lord I've got some bad habits some addictions I need your help please put your Holy Spirit In Me transform me from one degree of Glory to another into your image the image you created me to Be thank you that you promis to in Jesus name I

pray amen if you prayed that prayer and meant that please talk to somebody please come back here to church Church to investigate further what it means to grow in faith to grow in Christ can you be a Christian without going to church yes technically you can you cannot be an obedient Christian and not go to church so please make sure That you come to church here or a church closer to you where you live Charlie made a great point to us this afternoon when Stuart said Charlie there's some guys who travel three hours to come

to our church Sunday morning and Charlie said yeah well I hope they passed a 100 churches on the way where they teach the scriptures so that's what you got to do you got to find a church that teaches the Bible and worships and loves Jesus God bless you and let me add to it Pastor Luke we have Bibles up front right for any new Believers here as a gift and then also our next Freedom night will be the 25th with on a Tuesday uh and it's going to be a lot of fun here God bless

you guys let's give it up for our guests one more time cliff and steart connly thank you guys God bless you and God bless this country