okay what's the deal with with dairy is it is it good for you is it inflammatory should we be eating it or drinking it have you ever watched Dairy Girls on Netflix it's absolutely hilarious I think there's three seasons you should I think that's with an E though not an i a y it's d e r r y or yeah yeah as opposed to d a i r anyways it's got nothing to do with dairy but that we're gonna welcome to talking with docs I'm Dr Paul Z I'm Dr Brad we're sitting down we're doing
this podcast Style Just because it feels good to sit down instead of standing all the time and we're going to be talking about Dairy and uh some of the misconceptions or some things that you thought were true might not be true sure first thing is dair's gotten a bad wrap in terms of its inflammatory properties is it inflammatory right so in people who are not allergic or lactose intolerant there are reasonable studies to show that it is not specifically inflammatory what that means is that there are blood markers that we can measure that go up
when you have some type of inflammatory toxin or insult and it does not typically make them up and these would be C reactive protein ESR arthrite sedimentation rate and Incan six they're three of the most common ones that we measure right and so apparently in the average person who doesn't have a problem with dairy from an allergy or lactose intolerance point of view right then doesn't cause inflammation uh now the problem with looking at Dairy is a few things one it's a very head erogeneous collection of foods okay Dairy ranges from billion different types of
cheeses it's a lot of types to different milks you know different percentages of fat in the milk and even which animal the milk comes from you've got Dairy from sheep Dairy from goat dairy from cow so there's a lot it's a heterogeneous colle yogurt so right there it's impossible to lump all Dairy together as to one type of food so you're saying is all Dairy is not created equal no right so keep that in mind as we discuss Dairy but in general these kind of studies looked at various dairy products to see if they if
they if they contribute to inflammation one study I looked at was found no association between Dairy intake and markers of gastrointestinal inflammation and healthy adult cohort the thing I love about this article is the whole thing's in the title I don't even have to read it now no actually I did read through night one the first thing I look at when I read an article about dairy or about anything is the conflict of interest section yes that's always the most important section because this was funded by the California dairy industry okay however it did look
like a good study that did objectively look for inflammation right and people who ingest Dairy and it could not find any association and historically there have been a lot of studies run by the companies that have vested interest and the dairy board is guilty of this on lots of occasions and same thing I I looked at three different studies where they compared uh yogurt consumption to a control group for which caused more INF inflammation but the control group in the three studies I looked at one was was juice the second one was granola bars and
the third one was actually cookies com compar but so this this is the thing I think whenever you're reading any type of study whether it's big farmer whether it's big agriculture I think definitely grain of Sal and and look closely at whether or not it's a well-run study and whether or not there's a a specific agenda right and the other thing about Dairy is it's everywhere so in all the foods that you just mentioned there's Dairy there's Dairy and cookie there's dairan granola bars there's dairy in just well not juice but there's dairy in just
about everything so you have to keep that in mind too when you're looking at these studies and um the other thing is there are a lot of studies that pre that preceded these studies that said hey look and people who uh take in dairy uh end up getting their hip replaced more often there are some studies like that that did talk about and and and make the leap to inflammation associated with dairy okay again these the everyone is every the way everyone reacts to the different dairy products is different so if you're in the situation
where you have a bit of arthritis in your knee or your hip or your shoulder or something and you find that in your intake of dairy when that goes up you feel worse that could be very real for a variety of reasons it could be that you have some kind of allergy to one of the many components of dairy the proteins the many different proteins that are in there or different molecules might trigger your immune system slightly to get you inflamed um or you could have an intolerance to the way that you digest the lactose
in Dairy which could be lactose in intolerant right so there's a lot of different reasons why when you ingest Dairy your arthritic joints feel worse it's possible and right so the way that we digest lactose is with an enzyme called lactase and after we get through about age six so originally because of breast milk and things like that infants have the ability to digest this as we get older past age six about 65% of the world does not have an enzyme that allows us to properly digest lactose and this varies by where you live and
what your ethnic background is so there are certain cultures that have approaching 100% intolerance or absence of lactase or become lactose intolerant this is not an allergy this is an intolerance so two to 5% of people are actually formally allergic to to milk or to dairy products so that's very different than lactose intolerance but yes lactose intolerance could lead to inflammatory type properties and that's why elimination style diets where you remove things and then you feel better helps make a link between those two right and if you are in that situation you're trying to think
oh is the dairy bugging me you could try that eliminate for a while then gradually reintroduce it and monitor how you feel and see if there is a difference in how you feel as you gradually reintroduce it that's one way to test it on yourself right okay all right so in terms of the inflammation of dairy remember it's very hard to say anything because there's so many different types of dairy one and two the studies are you know there's some bias in the studies however in our review we couldn't find any convincing evidence that says
definitely Dairy is inflammatory okay so just just cuz it's not inflammatory is it good for you should you be eating it and here's where this video is going to get inflammatory and and leave some comments leave your leave your thoughts on dairy uh let let us know what you think let us know how you tolerate it let us know if you like it all right okay so is it good for you and the flip side of that or is it bad for you okay so historically Dairy has been promoted um particularly in North America by
the US Department of Agriculture because they had a vested interest in it so hundreds of years ago we didn't really eat a lot of dairy but in Northern Scandinavian countries where the winters were really harsh those people relied on it more because of the high fat content and that's why actually a lot of uh Northern Europeans actually have very very low incidence of lactose intolerance there are some other different Pockets where they consume dairy in more regular basis and their genes actually modified to be able to tolerate this but what happened um throughout the 1900s
is that the the government got more more involved with um the Dairy Farmers and allowing them to to make a living and protect their living by actually sometimes even buying buying their products government great customer government was an excellent customer for any business and they would say that and what happened is this is where even the like the government cheese program came on a lot of rappers saying about government cheese and what a lot of people don't know is that in the 70s the government was stockpiling cheese they had agreed to buy dairy products from
Farmers to keep um their businesses rolling and then there was this Cave of like literally millions of pounds of cheese that was starting to go bad they said what are we going to do with all this cheese so then they started giving it away and so anytime an industry or a government has has um a vested interest in some type of free market it it changes the role of that product in society so we've been told that all of us growing up right have a glass of milk you had a glass of milk with every
meal you had you had milk all the time we're told that milk does a body good and then eventually As Time passed we realized maybe milk doesn't do everybody's body good and that was that was kind of the the controversy there that's where where we are today personally I never drank a bunch of milk was to it no cuz you didn't like it no I I didn't feel good I think I'm a bit of lactose at lactose I do like cheese and ice cream like right there's a lot of there's a lot of fun things
about Dairy that's that's why people eat that's a lot of sugar attitude but but I do eat chees I I do eat dairy sure so what are the some of the shortcomings of Dair like what are some reasons that maybe a Dair is not necessarily a healthy choice the fat content you worry about the fat content saturated fat particularly if you're someone who has a predisposition to high cholesterol the thinking is that if you intake a lot of dairy product with high fat then you will end up increasing your blood triglyceride profile and it's not
going to be good for you and interestingly that's why a lot of these studies are dealt with lowfat dairy products is because of the saturated fat saturated fat has shown to be inflammatory so that's why these studies use lowfat Dairy to reduce the saturated fat to reduce the inflammatory markers and some studies did show that some dairy products do reduce inflammation as well and fermented ones right because that overlaps with the probiotic world of science yep uh that shows that and we can check out one of our other videos on probiotics where that can be
good for you certain probiotics which can be found in some dairy products okay so saturated fat may be one reason to not consider Dairy okay number two if you have a lactose intolerance or uh an allergy to it yeah it might not be good for you no brainer there are some I think you can actually purchase enzymes to help you deal like if you love Dairy so much but it hurts you you can actually buy the enzyme yeah lactate it's commercially available lactate take that or some milk comes with lactate in it to help you
digest that number three we've always been told that milk is a way to develop strong bones so there is research that shows that countries that consume the most Dairy actually have the highest incidence of hip fractures which is inverse to what we would intuitively think and there's a bunch of hypothesis about why this may happen um maybe related to the rest of the diet and also some people think that it's the excess vitamin A that's there but certainly the calcium that you drink in Dairy is not protective as we get older to reduce your Inc
of hip fractures right one article I looked at dietary recommendations for prevention of atherosclerosis this one conflict of interest this one was funded by a food company uh in Italy however they make pasta as far as I could tell the company that they are and the companies they own yeah don't make dairy products what about the Alfredo sauce that's not them okay that's not them um olive oil okay throw that on your pasta so um they found uh that after doing reviews of The Meta analyses that are out there that dairy uh wasn't correlated with
the development of atherosclerosis unless you're one of those individuals has a genetical predisposition to high cholesterol high triglycerides then you might have to be careful but in the general population they couldn't find a link looking at all the literature that was out there between Dairy and atherosclerosis and atherosclerosis is the disease process that affect your arteries that leads to things like heart attacks and strokes right okay then the next thing for me for dairy products would be um the presence of hormones in Dairy so uh in Canada you cannot give um growth hormone to cows
um in the US they estimate that one in six cows is given a synthetic type of growth hormone um and now because of the Free Trade Agreement even in Canada we're getting some of that milk so the concern for the Canadian government was that it hasn't been shown to provide significant benefit other than increasing the yield with an unmeasured we didn't really know the risk long term so they said no thanks to that so growth hormone aside the other hormones that definitely are present in milk are estrogens so 75% of milk comes from cows that
are pregnant so these are not these are not a cows that are given hormones but because of their pregnant State they have estrogen in there and this has been linked to early on set of puberty for for women delayed onset of menopause as well as even related to some type of cancers particularly prostate endometrial cancer so there is an incidence um of increasing risk due to the hormones that are present in milk in milk yes all right so that's one form of dairy yes um so what's your bottom line then is the bottom line is
lots of people love Dairy and I think types of dairy oh the other thing I say before your bottom line remember and I think I mentioned this there is different types of dairy dairy from the Sheep Dairy from the goat dairy from the cow sure lots of different kinds of dairy lot of dairy yeah so I said the T them is a think about why you're if if you're eating it because you like it I mean that's I think that's one thing I think if you're eating it because you think it's a healthy choice I
think be objective try to look at what your goals are for what de is providing for you and then see whether or not this is the best way for you to get it I think there are other sources of of things like calcium um and protein right okay I mean yeah I think I I think that's a reasonable bottom line um we couldn't I couldn't find any evidence that said that all Dairy is bad for you um definitely in the blue zones you know where they've investigated where people live super long time there's some Dairy
but the one thing I always say it's in moderation sure if you're going to eat eat a wheel of extra sharp cheddar cheese every day it's not going to be good for you in fact there's nothing I think that we need in abundance or excess no type of food the only thing is water that's really the only thing we need a lot of other than that you don't need a lot of anything I don't think so a variety of foods is what I find to be the most healthy and I think if you are into
dairy in moderation just like anything else I think I don't think it's bad for you and in my opinion depend you know if you don't like some of the other sources of the protein and the vitamins and the vitamin D and stuff like that then Dairy is good for you in that sense if you can't enjoy taking it in from other forms there you go um so that's that's the skinny on Dairy nice do you eat a lot of dairy not a ton of dairy but I do eat it like I do I do like
cheese what else so I can take with my wine sure there you go so um yeah so I do personally eat you eat dairy not really I mean in a pinch if I'm at somewhere where they have dairy then I'll I wouldn't like walk out of the room cuz there's Dairy there but not I think it's hard to avoid cuz it's it's it's an ingredient in many many different products but unlike something like processed you know Meats that's something I cut out of my life completely because the evidence there was overwhelming that that's bad for
you yeah direct link to cancer you know what uh like something like smoking or vaping overwhelming evidence not good for you don't do that you you could argue alcohol is overwhelming Al there is overwhelming Al and I did like personally I don't remember we made our video last year on New Year's resolution I cut alol we and I just say I'll have it on the weekends it's not cutting out completely but because of the research that we found that linked it yeah I thought okay I'm going to reduce it but for dairy I haven't seen
anything in there that's going to make me change my Dairy habits your current Dairy habits right there you go if you like this video please like it subscribe to our Channel leave your comments about your experience with dairy and remember you are in charge of your own health and in charge of how much cheese you eat see you next time
