What Really Happened On Jeffrey Epstein’s Private Island?

[Music] Bada bing, bada boom. If you want to live near the billionaires in Florida, you move to Palm Beach. The median home price there is $4 million. And most of these homes, they sit empty for three seasons out of the year. These are like the second, third, fourth, fifth family homes for the ultra wealthy. They're not even primary residences. So even from an Early age in this type of area, it is utterly clear who's got it and who doesn't have it. They say that there's two types of high schoolers in Palm Beach. The ones that

played with American Girl dolls and then the ones that played with Barbies. American Girl dolls, if you don't know, they look just like a regular doll. You would not even know that it's an American Girl doll. They're iconic for having big doll heads and a little bit more on the like the Shorter leg side compared to Barbies. But they can easily cost upwards of $100 for a singular doll. A single doll. Wow. I don't even think it talks or anything. It's just a doll. So, it's a high-end doll. Exactly. Barbies you can find for less

than $10. Nah went to a school where even Barbies they were passed down. Most families at her school couldn't even afford more than one Barbie. Most of the students at Nah's school, they're on a discounted or free lunch program that's funded by the government. So, they don't see that side of Palm Beach. They get a different side of Palm Beach. They don't have American Girl doll money. And 14-year-old Nenah was one of the kids that didn't have it. I mean, at least for now. So, her plans, she's going to stay out of drama in school.

That's her number one goal. Work a part-time job, make money, graduate with good grades, go to college, work Hard, live near the water. That's the ultimate plan. She doesn't even have to live next to the billionaires, maybe the millionaires. But sometimes when you avoid something too much, it comes and it finds you. Nah finds herself sitting in her principal's office with her hair all frizzy, her eyes are red, and the principal is screaming questions at her. and the girl next to her who looks like she's in just as bad shape, if not worse. And the

Principal screaming, "What the hell are you guys thinking? We have strict rules against fighting. No physical violence is ever allowed on campus." Nah's looking at the girl next to her. She's rolling her eyes. And the two girls, they had fought over Nenah's boyfriend. I mean, this has been going on for weeks now. They were starting rumors about each other, shit-talking, trying to flirt with the boyfriend in front of each other. And today was just kind of a Particularly bad day. They bumped into each other in the hallway. Called each other all sorts of names like

horse, gank. One student in the hallway screamed catfight and everybody started joining in. And now both the girls' parents are called to the school and one of the girls has a bloody nose, which I mean in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. Things happen. It's high school. But the principal decides to go through both of their backpacks and in Nah's wallet they find $300. Nah goes to a school where most students are on a discounted lunch or free lunch program. Where did she get $300? This is not a high school near

the water where kids are given that allowance for the weekend. This is a school with a C rating. So the principal straight up asks Nah, "Where did you get this money?" Nah doesn't respond. She keeps her head down. Nah was way too young to be stripping. That was clear. Besides The $300, they were in crisp $20 bills, not crumpled up lotioncovered ones or fives. Drugs. She's 14. 14? Maybe it's drugs. Nah's parents are like, "Well, it's definitely not us. She didn't get it from us. We didn't give her $300. We don't have $300 to give."

So, Nah's parents get to the school and they keep begging her to just tell the truth. Where did you get this money? It's okay. You're not going to be in trouble. They wait and they wait for Nah to respond. She's crying and the words are starting to come out of her mouth and it's coming out faster than she can even think and they're all kind of jumbling together. I gave this old guy a massage and he paid me for it. It was weird and scary. He was really old. He had this white hair but he

was really fit like some sort of jock and he was fully naked and I saw his wee wee and Everything and then he just kept asking me to get naked and I told him no. And he wanted me to get on top of him and massage him and he just kept rubbing his wee wee on me. Everyone is like who? Because Nah is 14. They heard middle-aged man naked wee wee. Who are we talking about? Who did this to you? Who gave you the money? His name is Jeffrey Epstein. [Music] We would like to thank

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continued support as we work on our mission to be worthy advocates of these causes. Now as always full show notes are available at rottenpodcast.com. But a big thank you to James Patterson, John Connelly, and Tim Mallaloy the co-authors of Filthy Rich. That sounds like I know them. I don't. This book was A big source for the information that I was researching for this case. We'd also like to say thank you to Vicky Ward for continuing to spearhead coverage on this ongoing development of all the court docs coming out. Victim's names, identifying information, and dialogue have

been all changed for privacy. Even if authorities or the general public believe something is a fact for the reason that there are ongoing legal disputes, we will be saying allegedly. However, our intention is not to cast down on victim's testimonies. In fact, some victims have bravely given firsthand public accounts that can be found online if you would like to read the victim's testimonies from themselves. Any and all theories mentioned in this entire episode are purely my speculation, netizen speculation, and things gathered from the internet. Now, with that being said, I also would like to make

it very clear That all the details of today's episode can be found online. We are not investigative journalists and we have not gone directly to the victims or the sources. And if you ever feel in any episode that something was miscommunicated, misrepresented, or have any additional information you'd like us to know, please leave it down in the comments. With that being said, let's get started. The Metropolitan Correctional Center has a bit of a Problem. I mean, the name sounds neutral, almost minus the correctional part. But the nickname for the building is Guantanamo of New York,

federal prison located on the island of Manhattan. But that's not the problem. The bad marketing of being the Guantanamo of New York doesn't even face them. They don't care. It was the plumbing that was the issue. There was always a toilet in this prison that's overflowing with urine and feal matter. Sometimes straight into the prisoner's cells. It was never cleaned up properly because no one wants to clean up a prisoner's cell like that. So, the entire building is just stinky. It's infested with rats and cockroaches. It's dark. It's humid all the time. And the smell

makes your eyes water. Prisoners would show up to court. Your honor, a rat ate my paperwork. They weren't even lying. The attorneys would be like, "No, really, there is a rat problem and the Rats are eating our client's paperwork from that prison." And in the south wing of this correctional facility, the setup was two inmates per cell, monitored every 30 minutes by two guards who do rounds. These inmates get to shower once every 2 to three days. They have a singular hour of recreation time per day. That's it. And it's not like general population in

prison where it's probably I would say south unit is more similar to maximum security. In the South unit, there's only eight cells per tier and six separate tiers for the unit. Now, the inmates in south unit, they're heavily watched, but you can just never be too safe. You can never be too sure in prison. August 10th, 2019, there was a problem in that prison. Inmate 76318054 refused to eat breakfast. At around 6:00 a.m., two guards, Null and Thomas, they're going down the cold hallway pushing breakfast into the cells. So, They'd have this little dim sum

looking card and they'd push the breakfast in and then go on to the next cell. And the two guards, they stop at this one particular cell where the inmate is refusing to come to the door and grab their meal. Hey, come to the door. Come to the door. Hello. No response, no movement. The guards, they look at each other and they decide, "Okay, we got to go in." They unlock the cell door. They rush in and they see Inmate 76318054 suspended from the ceiling. Thomas starts lifting the inmate from under his arms, dragging him down

to the corner of his cell. He lays him on the ground, starts performing CPR. He's like, "Breathe, breathe. You got to come on. We're going to be in so much trouble." Null stayed near the door about 1 ft away from the cell and activated the medical emergency alarm. The radio start calling out throughout the entire Prison. Body alarm on south. Body alarm on south. Jeffrey Epstein was pronounced dead at 7:36 a.m. August 10th, 2019 after spending 36 days in prison. The official answer is that Jeffrey Epstein, offender with dozens of allegations of child trafficking against

him, could not handle the sound of the broken toilets and his impending future as a prison inmate. So, he self-exited. But people online, they have different Theories. One theory is that someone powerful on his so-called list of important industry and world leaders that he kept close by, they wanted him to die with their secrets. Another theory explores the idea that that's not Jeffrey Epstein at all. The man's almost worth a billion dollars. If he wanted to fake his death in prison, he could fake his death in prison. There are a lot of theories surrounding the

very suspicious death of Jeffrey Epstein. And a lot of Questions. Who would want him dead? How would they even kill him if he's in prison? Was he running a trafficking ring for the wealthy? Were the ultra wealthy sacrificing children in rituals? And for some reason, all roads lead back to Epstein's private island. The ones that locals call pedile island. People always joke about living in broom closets in New York City. I mean, how you can sit in your bed and then wash your dishes in the kitchen sink without Getting up from your bed. That's like

the running joke. But Jeffrey Epste didn't live like that. Not in the Upper East Side. In the Upper East Side, there is a 9floor townhouse that's 51,000 square ft. And at the time, it was valued to be over $51 million. 51,000 square ft. It was one of the largest private residences in all of New York City. The minute that you walk past the 15t oak door, you are in fantasy land. You're Not in New York City anymore. You're not in Manhattan. The entryway had these frames that were lined up on the wall just hanging. Each

one was an eyeball individually framed. What do you mean? Like actual eyeballs? I believe they were synthetic. Yeah. Each one imported from England. Eyeballs. So that's artwork. Yeah. As artwork. Just eyeballs displayed. And you know how people say Rich people are so eclectic. This is probably the embodiment of that. If you keep trudging forward in this massive Manhattan mansion, if you go a few steps, you stop, you look up, there's a giant sculpture in front of you, probably two, three times your size of a naked African warrior. It's a choice. Welcome to Jeffrey Epstein's world.

And it said that he was a very particular man. It said that his morning was absolutely to the tea, Meticulously organized, and very routine. Every single day, this was his morning routine. He would wake up exactly 6:00 a.m. He would spend 25 minutes in utter silence. All the house staff assistants, they all hold their breath. Sh. Silence, pondering his life in silence, meditating until approximately 6:25 a.m. And then he slowly consumes his breakfast, a guava, a banana, a muesli, which is basically just a fancy oatmeal. Then he calmly Gets up and walks a third of

a mile precisely. 1,760 ft or 666 steps in his monogram $700 handcrafted slippers from Stubs and Wuton. When he's done, he walks back home to his castle-like mansion in the middle of Manhattan and he's got these little brass letters at the top of his door and it reads J E. He's got a thing for buying very expensive things and then making sure that everybody knows that he's the one that owns it. Sometimes he'll take these contemplative morning walks with two women. Two very young, beautiful women, maybe 19 years old. The man's in his 50s. They'll

be walking behind him a few paces back. If he stops to take a big old breath of air, they'll pause and just stand behind him. They never walk alongside him. It's always behind him. It's like they're waiting for him to hold out his palm and they'll hand him a eucalyptus scented towel or feed him grapes if he opens his Mouth during his walk. That's the energy. Then he comes back home to one of the largest private residences in all of Manhattan. Takes a shower. He doesn't drink any alcohol throughout the day. He doesn't smoke. He

cares about every little thing that his body consumes and how sharp his mind is the entire day. He sits down at his desk, which allegedly JP Morgan himself used to own, and gets to work. Whatever work is for Jeffrey Epstein, though, nobody really knew what This man did for a living. What kind of work? But that particular day in New York, he had a very interesting meeting with someone, a journalist named Vicky Ward. She was scheduled to come over and talk to him about a profile that she was doing on him for Vanity Fair. He

arranged for her to be sat down in the leather room. It's his tea room. The walls are lined with this leathery fabric. The chairs are leopard printed. And he's got all these weird art. Yeah. There's like a woman that's I believe she's naked touching a lion's skin. He's got very fascinating art choices and he wants to have afternoon tea with the journalist, the established, the very experienced Vicky Ward, who is assigned this piece on him. Now, news had broken that there was a very, very wealthy, mysterious man who had taken a private jet ride to

Africa with Bill Clinton. So, everyone's like, "Of course we want to know who's on the plane with Bill Clinton. Why is this man on the plane with Bill Clinton?" Vicki was sent out here supposedly to find out everything that she could about this mysterious wealthy man for an alleged reported billionaire who only hangs out with other fellow billionaires, presidents, and powerful families, dynasties. Nobody knows anything about this guy. He's not at gall. He's not at the Grand Prix or Art Basle, like nowhere. He's nowhere where rich people usually congregate. He Doesn't even like eating in

restaurants. He says eating in restaurants is like eating on a Subway. Whether that means it's too cheap, too public, too vulnerable, or all of the above is very unclear. Epstein and Vicky Ward sit together in the leather room, and these manservants wearing white gloves gently place finger sandwiches and cups of Earl Grey tea on the table. Vicki is visibly pregnant with twins at the time of this tea party that she's investigating, Epstein. And she's heard all these stories about this man, of him being a ladies man. All the women in New York are throwing themselves

at billionaire Epstein, a true gentleman, one of the last good ones, how he's so smart beyond people's imaginations. He's the type of smart man that's not just good at business, but he can hold a conversation with Stephven Hawking. She thought it was an interesting description for a man who sat there and ate every single piece Of finger food that was there for the both of them. They sit down. He's He has his man's servants serve them finger food. He eats every single piece. It's stated that on his office desk right next door to the leather

room, Jeffrey Epstein kept a copy of The Misfortunes of Virtue, which is a book. Now, it's written by the same guy who wrote 120 Days of Sodom that we've talked about. It's a book about a literal 12-year-old who gets essayed and is held captive in A monastery at one point and is abused by groups of sadistic monks. Like, it's very, very strange read. I'm sure there are groups of people out there that can argue that there is a lot of philosophical meaning behind books like these. And maybe I am just not able to grasp such

intense big concepts, but it's seemingly dark for no reason. I read a good chunk of it to get a grasp on what it was about and I have many regrets. It's just the story of a girl Getting essayed over and over and over again and it's just I mean it just feels like it feels like torture explicit material. There's no purpose other than to get off on the torture I guess. I don't know. I mean these monks they were tying her up, suspending her from the ceiling, stabbing knives into her arms and then catching her

blood in buckets for pleasure. It's a lot. There's a quote from the book that reads, "A woman can have no other relationship with her Husband than that of a slave and her master. She certainly has no right to pretend to have any higher status than that." So that's the book that the journalist noticed. It's interesting because this was the only book that was out in view for the journalist when she walked in that house. There were no other books left out. So, it's not like, oh, she saw Jeffrey Epstein's massive, extensive Collection of books, literature,

and this is a book that she picked out to prove a point. He left it out on his desk, and that was the only book she saw. Interesting. Interesting. Very interesting. Jeffrey Epstein also had a stuffed dog, a stuffed black poodle, dead and stuffed on top of his Steinway grand piano that likely cost over $100,000. Oh, so it's like a real Dog that passed away and then I mean, who is this man? He owned the largest private residence in Manhattan. He owned an $18 million ranch in New Mexico that he called Zoro. It was 33,000

square ft. He owns a mansion in Palm Beach, an upscale condo in Paris, a house in Ohio. He owns a helicopter, a total of five planes, including a Gulfream, a Boeing 727, which has a training room. Apparently, this is where President Clinton flew to Africa in two Escalades, Six Suburbans, two Ford F-150s, two Harley-Davidson bikes, a Land Rover, a Hummer, a 34 ft boat, a 35 ft power boat. I mean, Epstein was known for throwing these crazy private parties where already famous, influential, powerful people would be in attendance and they would shake hands with someone

in Epstein's New York City townhouse. Oh, I'm Andy. Nice to meet you. Andy is Prince Andrew from the British royal family. So, everyone's like, "How how Does Epstein know Andy?" I mean, Jeffrey Epstein seemed fake, like a caricature of a terrifying but weird billionaire. It stated that Epstein would be seen around town going to movie theaters. He would take three to four girls with him each time and they would take turns massaging him. Not just his shoulders, but like everywhere. His arms, back, legs, just in the middle of the theater, in the middle of dinner,

wherever. Wow. According to one source, Epstein Would brag about going into insane asylums because he quote liked to [ __ ] crazy women. We don't know if this is true, but he bragged about it. So, needless to say, it was going to be a very interesting meeting between the two, the journalist and the supposed billionaire. Previously, one reporter received three threats from Epstein while they were working on a piece on him. The message being, "I better like the piece, and if I don't, things are Going to happen to you." A close friend of Jeffrey Epstein's

once said, "Jeffree has the unusual quality of knowing when he's winning. Whether it's in conversations or negotiations, he always stands back and lets the other person determine the style and manner of the conversation or the negotiation. And then he responds in their style." Jeffrey sees it as chivalous. He doesn't pick a fight, but if there is a fight, he's going to let you choose your Weapon. Jeffrey Epstein wants to play chess with journalist Vicky Ward. Not figuratively, literally. You be white. You get the first move. It's like he's letting her pick her weapon. While playing,

he probably had plans to talk about his love for science and how he's so close with Stephven Hawking. You know, he's friends with Nobel Prize winners, creators of virtual reality, NASA scientists. Those are his closest buddies. He would like to talk about how He's a philanthropist that's donated millions to Ivy League institutions to study the mysteries of our brains. how he believed in transhumanism, the science of improving the human population through technologies like genetic engineering and artificial intelligence. Side note, that sounds really fancy. It's not. Critics believe it's just modern-day eugenics, which is controlled breeding

of a population or species to modify their traits and Strengths. Ebstein behind closed doors would talk about how he wanted to bring in shipments of women basically to his New Mexico ranch, impregnate them with his semen, and force them to have his babies. Well, I think the way that he phrased it would be that they would be more than happy to because he thinks that his gene pool is very strong. In a session at Harvard, Epstein said he was hyperritical of efforts that were aimed at reducing starvation and providing Healthcare to the less fortunate because

he believes that that would just lead to overpopulation. He's basically saying, "Let them starve to death." He probably didn't want to talk about all that with Vicki, though. Okay. It would be a lot more fun to talk about how former President Bill Clinton's spokesperson had said about him. Jeffrey is both a highly successful financeier and a committed philanthropist with a keen sense of Global markets and in-depth knowledge of 21st century science. Or about how former President Donald Trump stated about him. I've known Jeff for about 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to

be around. That sounds like the type of thing Jeffrey Epstein would want to focus on. And I know that hindsight is 2020, but if I were there, I would just want to know about what really goes on on his secret private island, Little St. James. That's Epstein's Island, but he Likes to call it Little St. Jeff's, but the locals all call it Pedal Island. It's a 70 acre island in the US Virgin Islands, which is south of Florida. It's about a threehour plane ride from Palm Beach, Florida, if you have a private jet, because I

don't think that there's any direct non-stop flights from Palm Beach to that area. And it makes Jeffrey Epstein one of the very, very small group of incredibly wealthy people that own private islands, which buying a Private island is kind of a headache. There's a professional agency called Private Islands, Inc. that specializes exclusively in selling and renting out private islands around the world. But it's not even just buying the island itself that's expensive. If the island has no wastewater treatment systems, working power lines, reliable source of fresh water, if there are no buildings on the island

or if you are renovating said buildings, you can estimate to Spend at least two times the cost of that building that if you were to build it the same structure on mainland. And that's if your island is easily accessible. Some private islands you have to build a dock yourself or even a runway for a private jet or a helipad. These are not affordable things. To put it into perspective, Richard Branson, founder of Virgin Airlines, spent about a million dollars calculated for inflation on a private island and then He spent over $10 million so far to

make it up to his standards and actually a place that he wants to visit. The Red Bull owner bought a private island in Fiji for $10 million and then he had to invest $30 million to make it more habitable. Like you have to have an entire team of staff that reside there just to make sure that it's ready for the very few days out of the year that you're actually there. They're going to be in charge of making sure the pantries Are stocked because guess what? You can't just go grab milk if you're on a

private island. There's no grocery store. Some islands even have a doctor live there full-time, even if the owner only comes every 1 to two days a year. Because on a private island, there are no hospitals. In case of an emergency, you're going to want a doctor nearby. And as with any property ownership, there's still a ton of maintenance costs that are going to add up. Epstein bought Little St. James for about $15 million, which is calculated for inflation. He immediately went in there and started scrubbing the place. I mean, he's getting rid of all the

native vegetation. started importing in 40 foot tall palm trees, which these are tall matured palm trees. They can cost upwards of $5,000 per tree, and that's not including import and planting. That's per tree. He bought a ton of these palm trees. And at the time, the Island already had infrastructure. There was this main house. Now, side note, the main house would reportedly be renovated by the same designer that did all the Aman resorts, like the ones that all the celebrities go to. That's like $5,000 a night. So, we can imagine quite a bit of money

was poured into the renovation. By 2019, the island's value was listed to be around $64 million. Besides the main house, the island has three guest Cottages, a caretaker and a groundkeeper cottage, a private water filtration system, utility building, a helipad, a dock, multiple swimming pools, tennis court, an enclosed lagoon, golf carts to take guests from place to place, a staff of 70 to cater to every guest's needs. You can tell whose staff because they're forced to wear black or white polo shirts, and they're told to stay out of everybody's view when they're working. Like, don't

be seen. Work hidden. But The most interesting building is a square box building on the isolated part of the island. It's this. It's the weirdest building I've seen. Okay, imagine a square, but it's blue and white stripes. It's got a gold dome at the top with two gold statues of what looks like almost like eagles or some sort of phoenix sitting there. It looks like a temple. And that's what Epstein calls it, his temple. It was on the most isolated part of the island. There are Rumors circulating that he conducted sacrifices in there. That's where

the children were taken for essay or to be killed. It's stated that it was Epstein's private study and music room. One contractor said, "Actually, guys, it's not a weird sacrificial room. It's just a gym." But a lot of netizens don't agree. They theorize that this is either a sacrificial spot where rituals were performed, some sort of underground layer, or even an altar for an Egyptian Deity. Because next to that temple structure is this enormous sundial. It's probably the size of multiple swimming pools. It's it's a giant circle. And obviously it only adds to the theory

that people are being sacrificed on this island. Now one thing that we do know is that we don't know much about this island other than that. It is incredibly private. I mean there's only one island near Po Island, Little St. Jeff's, whatever you want to call it, but it's Mainly empty. Nobody really lives there. Epstein would later buy that island, too, for $22.5 million, which means this is either a man who really values privacy, or he really does not want anyone to know what he's doing on his island. I think it's more of the latter

because like some sort of Bond villain, Epstein purchased a ton of sea urchants. You know what sea urchins are, right? Like they make they make oonie. The they look like black balls with these Incredibly sharp spikes all around them. He bought a bunch of these, scattered them throughout the edges of the island. It would be physically painful for people to get to his island or leave his island without him knowing about it and helping facilitate it, allegedly. But that's just the island. That still doesn't tell us what the hell happened on the island, especially when

it's been reported and debated about how many powerful figures have been to that Island. names like Stephven Hawking, Leslie Wexner, owner of Victoria Secret and Limited Brands, Naomi Campbell, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump. Their names have all been brought up and debated countless times of whether or not they have gone to the island. If they all went to the island, what are they all doing there? What do these people even have in common other than they're rich and powerful? Epstein would host these scientific conventions On the island. One of them was called Mind Shift

and they would just discuss neuroscience, artificial intelligence. Another private island convention was called Confronting Gravity. He was going to bring in 20 of the top physicists from around the globe, including three Nobel Prize winners. And they would through the conference confront gravity and explore fundamental questions in physics. They wanted to determine what consensus, if any, is there for defining Gravity. like either I'm too dumb or maybe too smart because I thought gravity was not a debatable thing. Epstein said about the conference, "There is no agenda except fun and physics." That's fun with a capital F.

Side note, Stephven Hawking does show up a lot in newly released court documents that we're going to go in more in depth on in the next episode on Sunday. But it seems like Epstein was obsessed with Stephen Hawking. He loved everything Stephen Hawking stood for. The fact that Hawking theorized that the universe would stop expanding and collapsing, at which point time itself would start running backwards. He loved that. He loved it so much that Epstein gave Stephven Hawking the best gift of all, a submarine that was modified to fit Stephven Hawkings wheelchair, which was the

first time Stephven Hawking was able to go underwater. This is so movie like, it's crazy. James Patterson states it was one of the most romantic, generous gestures that Jeffrey Epstein has ever made. Okay, what else was going on in that island? Are we really supposed to believe that they spent all their money to find one of the most secluded islands that money can buy so that they can debate the concept of gravity and pin up whiteboards a little too high on the wall? I don't think so. There was no runway on that island. It was

too Small for a private plane to land. So Epstein would have to land his private plane at a bigger airport, his Gulfream on St. Thomas, then take his helicopter to his private island. Some locals on the main island would whisper that Epstein's private jet should actually be called the Lolita Express. Every time that they landed to go to Epstein's private island, they said that Epstein was just surrounded by children, female children. Another local stated There would be girls that look like they are maybe in high school. They looked very young and they were always wearing

college sweatshirts. It seemed like they were wearing it as camouflage to be like, "I'm in college. I just look young." But they're definitely not college age. They're definitely not old enough. So, they're not even college, but they're trying to be Yes. Pretend they're in college. Yes. Wow. Another local said, "I compare him to a serial killer in broad daylight. I mean, I just think he has the face of evil, and it's like he was flaunting it, like hanging out with all these underage girls just so blatantly. Other locals stated, "The young girls look like they

stepped out of an underwear catalog. They would walk around with very few Clothes on or lounge by the pool with nothing on." And it's like they they were like that the most of their time. And I was concerned because of their ages. And a few of them looked very young. And I couldn't help but wonder, do their mothers know where they are? It has been alleged by a victim that the island was just step one of a web of trafficking for wealthy clients. It wasn't just the island. Girls were sent to London, Paris, Spain, everywhere

Around the world. And on that island, girls were forced into sexual acts by Jeffrey Epstein and his right-hand woman, Galain Maxwell. Now, if you guys have ever heard of Epstein's case at all, you've heard of Galain Maxwell. I mean, the two go together. Like, they they did everything together. This episode is focused mainly on Jeffrey Epstein. The very next episode that we're going to be uploading on Sunday is going to be focused on Galileain Maxwell And how she was basically called his madam of this whole alleged trafficking ring because she actually was very involved and

very allegedly abusive with many victims. She is said to be a ruthless woman. The victims stated they were forced to have intimate relations not just with Epstein but allegedly with other wealthy men from all different industries. It's been stated that some of these victims were just as young as 12 years old. Allegedly, Epstein would Try and get the girls to be as little spies. He wanted intel and blackmail, not just on the girls, but on the other wealthy men that they were forced to sleep with. It's rumored that every inch of that island was being

watched. There were cameras in cabanas, in the buildings, out on the patios. It was said that you weren't safe, not even in the restrooms. There were cameras in the restrooms. And if you try to escape, which we're going to cover in the next Episode, someone tries to escape the island, very, very bad things happen to you. There are a lot of theories about this island. Satanic rituals, sacrifices, underground tunnels, and all of these theories will be fully explored in part one and part two, but just remember, this is the tip of the iceberg. A close

friend of Epstein told Vicky Ward, the journalist that honestly tried to warn everybody about Epstein from the get-go. They told her, "You Think you know Epstein, and then you peel another ring off the onion skin, and then there's something else extraordinary underneath. He never reveals his hand. He's a He's a classic iceberg. What you see is not what you get." I'm Korean and my husband is Chinese. So, of course, when we fight, it's in English. And listen, my husband has been telling me for years now that if he could only speak English as well as

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a very routine arrest, but at the police station, she starts talking and she wants to talk to somebody higher up. They're like, "Why do you need to talk to somebody higher up? It's just weed." I have something that I think people would be interested in knowing. It's about a man named Jeffrey Epstein. Arya Tells them that she knows Jeffrey Epstein, that she's been at his Palm Beach estate and she knows what goes on in that house. So, this is not his New York City estate with his eyeballs on the wall. This is a completely new

house in Florida. To get into Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach estate, you have to get past the gate, past the guard, enter through the side door, which opens up to the kitchen. Usually, there's a housekeeper doing dishes there. Then, if You want to go upstairs, you take the winding staircase with pink carpets, and you head up. Upstairs, the hallway is lined with photographs of naked women. And again, because it's a very expensive house, like $18 million, I guess you could say it's eccentric and not weird and serial killery. It's up for debate. The house itself has

this weird edge of coldness. Not in the billionaire layer evil Tony Stark kind of way, but some parts of his house seem like a hospital. Some guest rooms almost look like doctor's offices. Then perhaps you walk straight into Jeffrey Epstein's bedroom. The whole room seems off. There are these hospital looking machines next to his bed. It's likely for sleep apnea, but they look intimidating. You've got a massage table in his bedroom. You There's this wooden cabinet on the side that's filled to the brim, like bursting with rubber toys and just adult toys. The whole cabinet.

Next to his bed, Jeffrey Epstein has peach flavored joy jelly lube. In the bathroom, there's soaps shaped like private parts of Yeah. all the different private parts. There's more bottles of joy jelly, peach flavored, mango flavored. You open the door into his closet and inside his dressing room there's more photographs of women of girls that all came to his house. They all look incredibly young and most of them are nude. He's got DVDs, strictly belist movies for some Reason, stacks of UFC fighting tapes, books from Amazon. One is titled Slave Craft: Road Maps for Erotic

Servitude, which is otherwise, I'm sure, a perfectly fine book, but it's Epstein, so I'm not sure he's using it as intended. There are two secret cameras hidden in clocks on the first floor in his office. Most of the girls in that house don't even know about it. Jeffrey takes pictures of them through those cameras and keeps them on his hard Drive, and the whole place has this overwhelming, sickly lavender smell to it all. The first time, most girls are led into a room that has a green and pink sofa. Next to it is another giant

wooden cabinet that's filled to the brim with toys. There's a mural of another naked woman inside the room. A massage table is in front of the couch, and most girls are led up there by another young woman, an assistant. Just wait right here. He'll be up in a minute. There's a Sense of fear and nerves when it's the first time because it's just a massage, right? Like, you just give some guy a massage and you get paid for the massage. I mean, everything in the room clearly indicates that it's not a massage, though. There's photographs

of young women posing naked. I mean, one of them shows a girl that's clearly not of age, and in the photo, she's smiling, but there's this strong undertone of anxiety on her face, and she's pulling Off her undercar while smiling at the camera. It's just weird. Ario is starting to feel a little bit on edge. It was her first time there. She was honestly just there because Hollister's pay is not great. Hollister pays like $6 an hour and she had all these plans to go camping with her friends this summer and she was telling her

coworker about it and the coworker is like, "Oh, you're trying to get plane tickets? You're not going to get that at here? $6 an hour? I Can get you a plane ticket like that in 2 hours. What are you talking about? Oh, you just go give this guy a massage and he'll pay like $200 for 45 minutes to an hour." She didn't give Arya any other details. That was it. But Arya was not naive enough to think that someone would just pay $200 for a massage. She said, you know, like this guy's not going to

pay you money for not doing anything, not letting him cop a feel or nothing, you know, but he could try all he Wanted. I mean, she would just turn it down. She thought if he tries to do something that I have a problem with, I'll just leave. Simple as that. And if not, if he doesn't do anything, then I make $200. $200 is $200. Arya went with a friend from Hollister. She was brought into the kitchen where she met Sarah. who she later found out was quote like one of Jeffrey's slaves end quote. Jeffrey Epstein

would pick a few girlfriends to live with him and They some it really depends on I guess how you look at it. I've seen some victims and some sources depict these women as perpetrators and then I've seen some depict them also as victims who ended up becoming perpetrators but probably because they were already victimized to a degree. So it's very complicated but a lot of the girls would say they're like his slaves. So they would live in his house and they would do everything for Him. They would walk behind him during his morning contemplative walks.

They would never really look up or talk without being asked. Yeah, it was a thing. The woman tells Arya, "He'll be ready for you in a second." Arya was led upstairs past the strange paintings and into the primary bedroom where there was a couch in the bathroom and she's like sitting in the bathroom couch. I mean, it was huge, the bathroom. There were bottles of lube, massage oils, weird Medical looking devices that you would normally see in like a dermatologist's office. It's just creepy. It was not a place that you would want to be alone

in. But Arya is not alone. She's got her friend from Hollister there. Then a middle-aged man walks into the room, walks over to Arya, shakes her hand. Hey, I'm Jeffrey. Then he turns to her friend from Hollister, hands her a wad of hundreds, and Arya is pissed. Her friend was getting paid to bring Arya Here. Worse is that her so-called friend is leaving her. She tells Jeffree, "Great, I'll wait for you downstairs." Turns to Arya. See you in a little bit. and runs downstairs. Wow. Wait, so the friend was getting paid? Yes. Hundreds of dollars.

Like $200 for each referral. Arya feels like she's got no choice but to give This guy a massage. So she starts massaging him with the massage oils. And he just keeps whining, take off your skirt. She's like, "No." But he keeps going, "Come on, you're not showing anything just by taking off your skirt." He ends up pressuring her into it, which is illegal because she's 16. But regardless, he talks her into it and she takes off her skirt. Then he forcibly starts touching her. She tries to tell him to stop, but he keeps going and

Demanding that she now take off her shirt. In the end, Arya felt pressure to undress, but she kept her undergarments on. He kept groping her chest area, then finished by wiping himself off on a towel, so he was like self. He paid her $300, and she went home after 40 minutes. And just to put a quick disclaimer here, I'm using words given to the officer by Arya, but I don't think that he talked her into it or convinced her. I would consider it Straight up force. She's 16. He's a middle-aged man. It's illegal. So, even

if he quote talked her into it, it's still illegal. Second, $300 for 40 minutes. In many professions, that would be considered an incredible job. But this is not a job. This is illegal. And the girls were way too young to realize how traumatic those 40 minutes would be and how it would stick with them for the rest of their lives. But he knew that. He exploited that. Arya was 16. From There, Arya told officers that she frequently visited Epstein's mansion and gave him massages. She stated that she was there every day that he was in

Palm Beach and she had been there at least hundreds of times. She had some rules that she set with him. And again, none of this matters because she's underage. So even if she's setting rules, this is illegal. Arya stated Epstein told her that she was his favorite. He ended up buying her a new car, bought her plane Tickets for trips, gave her shopping money. Sometimes she would go over to his house and there would just be a giant bag of lingerie from Victoria's Secret just waiting for her. Like $1,500 worth of stuff. He even asked

if she could ask her parents to emancipate her so that she could come live with him. As a girlfriend, the police ask. Slave, whatever you want me to call it. Yeah, but it escalated. He just increased my pay as long as he could Touch me. She said, "I used to go there everyday. Like, I don't know how many other girls he was saying, you're my favorite, too, but I want you to live with me. But I was in as deep as you can get." She stated, "The underwear I'm wearing right now, he gave me." Authorities

asked and clarified, and for some reason, we have very, very vivid details about his private part. Arya told authorities because they kept asking, "Oh, yeah. I'm 110% sure he's Circumcised. As a matter of fact, he has some sort of birth defect on his thing. I don't know what it is. I've never really looked into it because I've never done anything where I had to touch it. Out of the whole time I worked for him, I never touched his thing. I'm pretty sure he rubbed it against me, but I've never been like, "Okay, I'm going to

let you do this." Or, "Okay, I'm going to do this now." But it's really weirdly shaped. I don't know. Do you want me to Tell you about it? Yes. I'm really embarrassed, but it's like a teardrop, like a drop of water. It's like really fat at the bottom and really skinny at the top where it's attached and it never is like fully stiff. Like I could just tell by looking at it. I don't know. Like by looking at it you can obviously tell if it is. I I could tell that he wasn't. Arya told authorities

that sometimes Jeffrey Epstein would call her over to The house and ask her to be completely naked while he worked. So she would be paid to just sit on his desk while he worked completely naked and watch TV or read a book or just be naked in the room. Other times he requested that she be naked in bed with him while he watched the news. Or other times he would just have her join him for dinner. It wasn't always a massage, but Arya said she would never be in that house if there wasn't money involved.

Then one Day he forced her over the massage table and forced himself on her. She said that she quote freaked out and stopped him, but he rwarded her even if it was just for a moment. Now, side note, I want to clarify that she clarifies with the police that she never had intimate relations with Epstein, and she did not. But he did try to rword her, even if for a moment or two. And I say that because he was victimizing her. She was so young when she was giving her statement to the Police. I don't

think that it's settled in yet because there was a really heartbreaking part of her questions with the police where she just kept asking, "Wait, is this like our word?" I mean, it's just my opinion. I think he's just a raging predator. Now, side note, Jeffrey Epstein knew Arya's real age as well. She told him that she was 16 and he told her, "Don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody your real age." And from there, things just started escalating. Epstein would pay Arya to have relations with another woman, one of his girlfriends that lived at the house.

And either they were all underage at the time or she had just turned 18. It's uncertain. He would watch as they had intimate relations with each other. Sometimes he would join in by doing things to the two of them. Arya stated that there was a lot of usage of strap-on devices and other large rubber objects. He had a whole cabinet at his Disposal of things that he would use during these massages. She stated, "Jeffrey Epstein was a mastermind at getting people to do what he wanted." She stated, "He's a very hard guy to say no

to. I don't know if you guys ever talked to him, but well, if you talk to him, I mean, he straight up tries to control the situation. Every word that comes out of your mouth, it seems it seems like he knows what you're Going to say. Like, that's his job. That's how he makes his money, knowing what people are going to say and what people are going to do." The only reason that I held on for so long was because he promised that he would get me into NYU and that he would pay for it.

So, I waited and I waited and I scored great on my SATs. I had a 4.0 GPA. I did really good in school. I gave him my application three times. He never submitted it or checked it. And that's Why I stayed so long because my dream was right in front of me, you know. Did he ever hurt you? Sometimes it got violent. Yeah. He would uh pick me up. Like if you pick me up and throw, obviously it's going to hurt. I mean, there's been nights where I walked out of there barely able to walk

from him being so rough. So, to recap, Arya was pulled over, arrested for having weed in her possession, brought into the station, and the police thought this was A routine arrest. But now they've uncovered that Jeffrey Epste, one of the richer men of all of Palm Beach, is actively seeking children for sex work. Arya looked at the detective near the end of the interview and she said, "Jeffreey's going to get me. You guys realize that he's going to find me. He's going to figure this out and he's going to I'm not safe now. You understand

that, right? I'm not safe. Do you know what the golden rule is? It's very Simple. He who has the gold makes the rules. And in Palm Beach, there's a lot of rulemakers. To give you an idea, their local newspaper, the Palm Beach Daily News, the front page news for them is usually the most recent charity ball or equestrian horseback riding event or some sort of gallery opening. It's a place where nothing really happens and everything happens. And there is a busy time even for the police. They call it quote the season, wintertime in Palm Beach.

That is when all the rich billionaires with their fifth vacation homes come into the town. They leave snowy New York, rainy Paris, come to Palm Beach with a temperature sit comfortably in the 70s and they throw parties. It is the season. The billionaires come in, fly in on their private jets, fly in all their friends from around the world. They throw these over-the-top parties, endless bottles of Dom, the ones that cost like hundreds of Dollars per bottle. There's shrimp towers, hired entertainment, noise complaints, someone hung over, believed to be dead, there's a 911 call, cocaine

usage through the roof, and once these parties are over, the workers come in, clean up the billionaire's mansions, leaving it completely spotless, even though they know and the billionaires know that they're just going to do it all over again tonight. And everything, all that trash ends up At the landfill that the sanitation workers call Mount Trashmore. Everyone's trash except Jeffrey Epstein's. His trash was being secretly pulled by the Palm Beach Police Department after Arya and after Nah's reports. It's called a trash pole where authorities secretly work with sanitation workers and have a special place for

intaking a suspect's trash, like all of it, and it goes to the police station and sorted through for important evidence. In this case, They're looking for anything that has DNA, toothbrushes, condoms, halfeaten pizzas that can even place underage girls in the house or any other incriminating evidence, notebooks, journals, pieces of papers with names, phone numbers, dates, anything that can connect Arya or any other underage girl for that matter, to Jeffrey Epstein, billionaire or not, the police are determined. They're going to get this guy. They just need to make sure that The investigation is kept tight

under wraps. The door to the police station swings open and a silverhaired man walks in. It's Jeffrey Epstein. And behind him is a beautiful but very young woman, 19 years old, barely a woman, and she's walking behind him a few paces back. The other girls call her another one of quote, "One of Jeffrey's like slaves end quote." She's one of the girls that lives in his mansion. She's walking behind him, head down, staring at the Ground, and all the officers are staring because it's such a strange, alarming sight. It looked like she's used to not

talking or even making eye contact unless she's addressed, which can never be a green flag. Jeffrey walks up to the chief, chief writer. He introduces himself as a local Palm Beach resident, Jeffrey Epstein. He does he does not introduce the woman behind him. It's like she doesn't exist. And he hands the chief a check for $90,000. Whoa. a donation for a firearm simulator, which kind of, if you guys don't know what that is, it looks like screen golf, but instead of a golf club, you use a replica firearm, and you practice your aim, reflexes, and

stamina. A lot of wealthy Palm Beach residents donate to the local police department because they have a lot that they want to protect, and they want to make their already safe town even safer, and they think this is the best way to Do it. I didn't know you could just walk into a police station and hand them a check. Yeah. and be not not be arrested for bribery. Yeah. Like that's insane. We should just hand them a dollar check and test it out. It's crazy. That's not a conflict of interest. Like what? What? That's definitely

not bribery for sure, Right? But even for one of the wealthiest zip codes in the state, $90,000 in a donation is a pretty big deal. Chief Ryder, he'd been a cop for more than 24 years. I mean, he was trained for anti-terrorism at the FBI training headquarters, Quanico. but he's also a family guy and he could just tell he could just tell that something is off about Jeffrey Epstein and $90,000 was entirely not enough to make him feel differently. The authorities have a Report of something that sounds very much like the Rword from Arya, but

it's not enough to get someone of Jeffrey Epstein's caliber. I mean, we hear about normal people getting away with essay all the time. now add a few hundreds of millions of dollars, if not a billion, into the mix. Jeffrey Epstein is practically untouchable. Chief Ryder even warned his squad, "Cross your tees, dot your eyes. Epstein's attorneys can eat us for breakfast, lunch, and dinner If that's what they want to do." And if you're going up against someone like that, which is what the police have every intention of doing, you have to know everything about your

opponent. You don't go into a fight blind. And they know nothing about Jeffrey Epstein. For a very rich guy, he's incredibly mysterious and private. Nobody even knew what he did for a living. I mean, yeah, the police can figure out through tax filings, but what does that even mean? What does he really do for a living? He has a corporation. He helps rich people. That's all they know. How does Jeffrey Epstein make his money? According to some people, Jeffrey Epstein would go around telling people that he was a brain scientist. Is that even a real

job? He would say, "It's my job to know how people's brains work." So, yes, it's all very elusive. Mhm. But one thing is for certain, it is Highly unusual for animals that big to not leave any footprints in the snow. Only problem is Jeffrey Epstein was born with very, very small feet. At least in the finance world. Jeffrey grew up in Brooklyn where his dad was a landscaper, which I just want to say there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. It does appear that he comes from a loving home, but it is a world away from

the Upper East Side and the old money New Yorker societies that he wants To be a part of. But Jeffrey Epstein is unfortunately very smart, at least on paper. He skipped two grades. He was a genius with numbers. They said he played the piano. His friend said he was advanced. He's brilliant. He's a diamond in the rough. He's got a gift for recognizing opportunities very quickly. Interestingly enough, Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of friends growing up and they would call him um Epie. His parents would call him Bear at school. They'd Call him Epie. Apparently,

he was very likable. So, they said, you know, have you ever heard someone who laughs like haha haha or they just kind of laugh like that noise. They said Jeffrey Epstein laugh like he he in a very high-pitched voice. Like he would have a he he laugh, which honestly is a little creepy now that I think about it, but a lot of kids, you know, when you're young, they thought it was cute. They thought it was enduring. Jeffrey Epste Was described to be chubby with curly hair and an obsession with his prized stamp collection and

his grades. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein goes from Brooklyn to the Upper East Side, at least Monday through Fridays, and he starts teaching at a prestigious private school in New York City called Dalton School. This isn't even a university. Dalton is a K through 12 grade school. The tuition per year is $61,000 a year. This is not even a private University. Epstein doesn't even have a college degree and he ends up as a teacher of math and physics over at Dalton. And nobody was taking parent teacher conferences as seriously as Epstein was because that is his

chance to be in the same room with these rich, powerful, well-connected parents without formally pitching himself and annoying these influential families because I'm sure they get that all the time. I'm sure they get Shark Tank pitches on a Daily basis. Epstein shows up to these teacher conferences and shows them exactly how valuable and brilliant he is and it works. One of the dads leans over during a parent teacher conference. Have you ever heard of Bear Sterns? Bear Sterns was a massive investment bank trading and brokerage firm. By 2008, it was the fifth largest investment bank

in Manhattan. It did collapse that same year, so I don't know what that means anymore. In 2006, they did 9.2 billion In revenue. They had a giant 47 floor glass down skyscraper in the middle of Manhattan. The traders did lines of cocaine in the bathroom. I'm not even making that up. There was a guy from Beer Sterns who had a cocaine dispenser that had the emblem of Bear Sterns. I mean, the firm clearly operated in very interesting ways. Even when hiring traders, the partners were not looking at resumes and diplomas. Some of the partners would

straight up say, "I'm Looking for PSDs." Poor, smart, determined kids. PSDs. Jeffrey Epstein was a PSD when he joined Bear Sterns. He starts trading and sleeping with one of the partners' assistants immediately, and he is exposed to a whole new world of money. At these firms, money is no longer even money. It's just numbers on a screen that go up and down. When it goes up, you're happy. You make money. When it goes down, you're sad. You do another Line of cocaine and you get back at it. After 5 years there, Epstein takes his $250,000

bonus that year, resigns from the firm conveniently right before the SEC starts an investigation into Bear Sterns, which is suspicious to say the least. He was questioned multiple times by the SEC. And from there, Jeffrey Epstein finds himself being a bounty hunter. Jeffrey Epstein's real taste of money, like first real taste, because to him, A4 million dollars is not real money. It's not enough. He actually blew through it so quickly that he had to stay on people's couches. He didn't even have a place to stay. His first real taste of money was through a woman

named Anna Oberan. And she's this beautiful Spanish actress, model, socialite, and normally very, very wealthy. But her dad was about to be out hundreds of millions of dollars potentially. We don't have an exact figure, but Anna's dad invested in A scheme and now his money is at risk of being gone forever. So Anna reaches out to Jeffrey Epstein and is like, "Hey, I heard you're good with numbers. I heard you're good with tracking things down. I need you to help my dad hunt down my dad's money. If you recover at it all, I'll give you

a good chunk of it." A bounty hunter. Epstein worked with the SEC fraud task force. Probably the same task force that investigated Bear Sterns and Jeffrey Epstein by default. And now He's on their side trying to get Anna's money back. And it worked. He found her family's money being held in a bank in the Cayman Islands. And it's unclear how much money he recovered, but it's suspected that Anna gave him a hefty commission, likely in the seven figures. This is Jeffrey Epstein's first taste of big boy money, and he's not going back. It's argued Epstein

did have a way with numbers. He was really good at it. He would use it to find ways for the ultra Wealthy to not pay taxes. That is what Epstein genuinely did. Tax evasion. His whole business model was pay me $50 million or pay the IRS 10 times more than that. So, I'm going to find it's not tax evasion. I guess they're legal loopholes. Jeffrey Epstein seemed to have this lifelong habit though where he would promote his girlfriends. He would somehow date some of the most beautiful women in the world. Not even subjectively, but literally

objectively. He dated Miss Sweden for a while. He would date these incredibly beautiful women. I mean, they're completely out of his league. And then he would promote them to be his friend. He would break up with them. But he always told them, "No, no, no, no. Think about it like this. You're going up the ladder. You're not going down the ladder. You're graduating to a better tier. You're moving from lover to friend. That is better. Relationships are nothing. There's Beautiful hot women all over this island. Friendship is precious." That's how he always framed it. And

it worked. Epstein would remain close with all of his ex-girlfriends. One of his ex-girlfriends stated, "There is nothing but nice things that I can say about this guy." Even an old high school girlfriend remembers getting a call from him out of the blue. This is both when they're in their 50s. They dated like what, 30 years ago in high school. He Calls out of the blue without talking to her for decades. And he's like, "You know what? You came up in a conversation recently and I was just thinking about you." He's like, "Yeah, it was

um it was my birthday party, my 50th birthday party, and I had all these pictures of me when I was younger, and you know, cuz we dated, I had a picture of you on the beach, and my friend was pointing at your picture, and I thought, I bet she's got a big ass now. You want to come over?" And after decades of not talking, she went over to his Manhattan mansion and it's like nothing had changed. Friends forever. Now, one of Jeffrey Epstein's longest relationships though was with a man named John A. This is a

fake name. He was Jeffrey Epstein's house man for 11 years. As the main house man, John was also the house manager, the driver, the house maintenance person. He mainly stayed in the Palm Beach house and his Job was to make sure that anytime Jeffree was at home, it was ready for him. If anyone had a firstirhand look into what went on in that house, it was going to be John. He said, "Yeah, I mean, I think Jeffrey was probably very sore because he received three massages per day. Three massages by three different women per day.

And every year those masseuse, they got younger and younger and they would always be led up to Epstein's room or bathroom where he Would have a massage. But sometimes John would go in there afterwards and find these long rubber devices or massagers that would be in the sink that he would have to wash off and put back into the wooden cabinet. Now, in comparison to all of that, this new errand that he was sent to run, it seemed very easy. All he had to do was drop off flowers to one of Mr. Epstein's girls. He

thought it was going to be the easiest task in the day until he found himself with a bouquet of Red roses in his hand standing in front of a high school. Red roses for 15-year-old Nenah. Nah, from the beginning of this story with $300 in her wallet, she had to sit on her hands on the way to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. She was wearing a white pair of skinny jeans and she did not want to get it dirty in Wendy's truck. The seats are grimy. I mean, honestly, this whole situation felt grimy, but it's not I'm

so sorry. Who's Wendy? Wendy is the girl that's introducing her to this rich man who takes massages. Uh, her friend. I see. Wendy is actually her boyfriend's cousin and she's sitting on her hands in the back and it's just it's just not a pleasant situation. But if someone asked you, would you rather work part-time at a fast food chain sweating over burgers in the back getting greasy, your hair is all sweaty to make $300 you smell when you get Home, or would you rather close your eyes, massage an old rich guy for an hour and

make that same amount of money when you're 16, 15, 14? I mean, even when you're not, it seems like the choice is kind of easy. Nah doesn't really have a choice now. She's in the back of Wendy's car, hands numb. The GPS is leading them straight to an $18.5 million mansion overlooking the water in Palm Beach. And Wendy, her boyfriend's cousin, the one that's introducing her To the man, is glancing in the rearview mirror. Nah, remember when he asks how old you are, you say 18. You got it. Nah's kind of confused because nobody in

their right mind would think that she's even 18 or 17 or 16. She's 14. She's 14 or 15. She's 14. Oh my goodness. Uh, sure. I'm serious. When the man asks your age, you say 18. Yeah, I got it. Nah smiles at Wendy in the rearview Mirror and the car pulls up to the front gate. It opens up for them. They park in the driveway and they walk up to a guard. Wendy's acting like she's doing a drug deal. We're here to see Jeff. He nods and they follow him over to the side door that

leads into the kitchen. Nah steps inside and there's just like a group of adults staring at her. No introductions, nothing. They're just staring up her up and down. One of the house guys, I guess one of the house Staff looks at her and says, "Do you want milk and cereal?" "I'm good." Wendy's just standing there staring at the man leaning up against the kitchen island. He's looking Nah up and down and then he just nods. Wendy follows him out of the kitchen and Nah's so confused. Like, what the hell is happening? I mean, clearly they're

analyzing Nah. They're looking for something in her. And when he gets back, the middle-aged man, Jeffrey Epstein, tells his Assistant, "You can take Nina upstairs." Nina is taken to the godforsaken room with the pink and green couch where she waited. And she's just staring at all these naked pictures of girls that look way too young. And there's this wooden cabinet with toys inside. And it's just a freaky experience. The door swings open and there is Jeffrey Epstein standing right behind her in nothing but a towel. It was freaky. It's terrifying. But She's also 14. So

she's thinking, well technically that's how massages work, right? So even though Nenah is not a licensed masseuse because in the state of Florida you have to be 18. She's thinking this is normal. He's maintaining eye contact with her while he takes off his towel and he is standing there in front of her completely nude. She looks down and his wee wee is very tiny. Side note, the word weew wee was used with authorities, So that's why I'm using it. But also, it emphasizes how young these girls are. Epstein had a very stern voice, like an

angry dad or like a scary teacher. It's it's a voice of authority. You wouldn't even question it. It sounds that scary. He tells her, "Take off your clothes." Nah's so scared, she takes off her pants and then he lays down on the massage table on his stomach. He instructs her to get on top of him to massage his back. And at first it was as normal as a Type of massage like this can get, I guess, like she's massaging his back with massage oils. But then Epstein turns to his side and starts rubbing his privates

on her body. He grabs a device, uses it on her private parts, and then it was over. He grabs a towel to wipe himself off down there, and gets off the table. So, he did not fully essay her, but it's still essay, you know. Nino was paid $200 for the first time. And unfortunately, Nino is just one of the Many victims Epstein had. He had a few ways that he would recruit underage girls for what I feel are assaults, but he calls them massages. The first way was to have girls recruit other girls. Children recruiting

children under Epstein's force and guidance. So Wendy, the one that brought Nah to Epstein, she told authorities that just after she turned 17, her friend asked her to come to Epstein's house. That's how she got roped into this. Well, actually, her Friend asked her, "You want to make some money?" I mean, who says no to a question like that? So, she said, "Yes." Okay. All you have to do is give this man a massage and you're going to make $200 in like an hour. Wendy goes, and just like Nenah, she ends up meeting with Epstein

in the kitchen of his Palm Beach house. And once he gives her the look through and the go-ahad, she's escorted to his bedroom. She sees the young assistant Sarah set up the massage Table, cover it with a sheet, lay out the massage oils, and then she leaves. Well, Wendy's looking around confused. The door swings open and comes Jeffrey Epstein with nothing but a towel. He drops it. He's completely naked. Lays on the massage table and calls Wendy over. She said, "He tried to touch me." I stopped him. I told him, "I'll massage you, but I

don't want to be touched." Wendy did get naked for the massage, and at the very end, he paid her the agreed Upon amount of $200. When he realized Wendy wasn't comfortable with doing more, he offered her a new position to work with him. bring him girls to massage him. Each time he will pay her $200 for the first time, just once. If the girls keep coming back, you don't get that referral fee anymore. Wendy told authorities. So that's what I did. She brought over girls who they all kind of knew what they were getting into.

I mean, maybe not the full extent, terms And conditions and all of that, but apparently Epstein made it a point that he did not want the girls to be super surprised when they were in the room. And each time she brought a girl between the ages of 14 and 16, she was paid $200. Wendy worked with him for a year. And I don't have an exact figure on how many girls she personally brought to Epstein. But she would say it was kind of like a train. It's like I introduced him to all My friends and

then they introduced him to their friends and it just kind of went on and on like that. Out of all the girls that you introduced, how many of them were under 18? Under 18. All of them. All of them. All of them. Did Epstein know anybody's real true age? Or he didn't care? I don't think he cared. He told me the younger the better. Let me just put it this way. I tried to bring him a woman who was 23 and he didn't Really like it. Didn't go for it. It's not that he didn't go

for it. He just didn't care for it. And he likes girls that are between the ages of like 18, 20, I think some some of them. But I think most of them lie about their age. I mean, I know that when I started off young, I think he knew better than to believe me. I think he knew that I was younger, like 17. But when I told him I was 18, it was fine. Most girls would lie when they go in there. And for the Girls being victimized by Jeffrey Epstein, I guess there wasn't really

a standard rate. Wendy would tell authorities, "The more you do with him, the more you make. Basically, if you take off your clothes, you're going to make more. If you let him do things to you, you're going to make more." I heard about a girl who apparently slept with him and was making like $1,000 each time. Do things? You mean like touch you? Yeah. Touch you in inappropriate places. Wendy told authorities that she never blindsided the girls that she brought over. They at least had an idea of what was going on. And she would kind

of know how much each girl did with Epstein by how much they walked out there with. So there was one girl on her first massage walked out with $300 and Wendy stated she walked out of that house with $300. So she obviously and evidently let him do a little bit more. According to James Patterson's book, police tried to make Wendy understand that she just implicated herself legally in Epstein's crimes. And she had been doing this for a little over a year now. So, she was of age. She's 18 now. And she didn't get it. She

just joked, "I guess I'm like Heidi Flice. Heidi Flice. She was the madam of Hollywood. She ran a super illegal sex work ring in LA that catered to the Hollywood elites." So, like, she doesn't understand the Severity of what she did. It's complicated because a lot of people do try to demonize her in some sources. And I'm not going to say that she didn't do anything wrong that she didn't help create victims, but she's also so young. Like, he has a way of picking girls, especially the Palm Beach girls, the victims there, of just picking

the most underprivileged. Like, he knows how to spot vulnerability. Yeah, This is a very smart man. You know, that would be the first way that he recruits victims. The second way Jeffrey Epstein would recruit girls was through Victoria's Secret. So remember that meme, what is Victoria's Secret? Some people would say it's, "Oh, the founder was a guy named Victor who loved dressing in more feminine lingerie." Others said, "No, no, no. It's about the British monarch, Queen Victoria. She was always so prim and proper when she Presented herself to the people, but she was known to

be secretly very nasty, freaky, dirty, wild in her intimate life. And that is Victoria's secret. Whatever the secret is, the secret was owned by the richest man in Ohio, Leslie Wexner. He owns limited, well, he owned limited brands which included Victoria's Secret Express, Bath & Body Works. I believe they either own or heavily invested in Abberrombie and Fitch as well. I mean, it's a huge corporation. Leslie Wexner is worth $6 billion and has one of the largest privately owned yachts in the world. Well, he did at the time. It was 315 ft long, which, you

know, I was like, that's teeny tiny weeny boat. Not that I own any sort of water vessel, but it didn't sound insane until I realized the Statue of Liberty is 300 ft tall. Big Ben is almost exactly as tall as Leslie Wexner's boat is long. No, Jeffrey Epste is rich. Leslie Wexner, that's a different League. Leslie Wexner hired Jeffrey Epstein to manage his money, but Epstein did a lot more than that. Allegedly, he was kind of like Leslie Wexner's dog. So Leslie Wexner would buy these antique pieces of art for his house. Jeffrey Epstein would

invite his former friend Steuart Pavar over, who is this renowned art collector, to come authenticate the pieces, which Stuart would later say they were mostly cheap knockoffs. Like, it was bad. It wasn't even a good Knockoff. When Leslie Wexner wanted to break up with his long-term girlfriend, a woman who had uprooted her life, moved all the way to Ohio, converted to Judaism to be with him to make him happy, Leslie was like, "I can't do it. Jeffrey, go break up with her for me." He would send the dog. He would send the dog Epstein. Allegedly,

when Leslie wanted to see Cats the musical, but he didn't have time to go watch the musical, Jeffrey Epstein called up the Cast, flew them to Ohio, and had them personally perform Leslie. When Leslie finally decided to get married, allegedly Epstein forced Leslie's soon-to-be wife to sign a prrentual agreement, had her sign it alone in her law office. Then he had Leslie sign it in his office, but he brought along a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model to show Leslie, remind Leslie, don't worry, there's always an endless supply of beautiful women in this world. And he had

Leslie sign the prenup agreement on the model's belly. She laid down on the desk. They put the papers on top of her belly and then he signed his prenumptual agreement for his marriage to not the model. Yeah. But Epstein doesn't do anything for free or even for cheap. In return, he's likely getting paid fat sums of money for managing Leslie's money and his life. But also in return for being this paid bully really, he's getting Access to Victoria's Secret models or sometimes people with dreams of becoming one. Epstein starts working with a man named Jean

Luck Brunell, a modeling agent, and the two allegedly use Brunell's modeling agency to bring in underage girls from out of the country by promising them modeling contracts. Allegedly, the girls would stay in Epstein-owned properties. They would get visas and very slowly they would just be exposed to the world of quote high-end Escorting. It's likely that Epstein used his known association in the fashion world to Leslie Wexner as a way to be like, "See, I'm not a scammer, nor am I trying to take advantage of you. I'm actually best friends with the guy that owns Victoria

Secret. There is some proof of this. In Santa Monica, California, there is this very expensive hotel called Shutters. It's a smaller, intimate, upscale hotel. It overlooks the water, has this giant pool. It costs $1,000 a night to stay there. Well, the Santa Monica Police Department get a call from that hotel one late summer evening by a young woman named Clara. She's frantic. She's calling to report that she's just been assaulted. She's trying to tell the authorities everything that's happened. She's a small actress. She did some minor roles in Baywatch and General Hospital. I mean, she's

new to the industry and everyone is referring her to this guy Named Jeffrey Epstein. They told her, "Send him your head shot because he picks the girls that are going to be in Victoria's Secret cataloges." Maybe not the fashion show yet cuz that takes time, but the cataloges, that's your foot in the door. So that's what she did. He reaches out to ask, "Do you want to meet me at a hotel?" Clearly, Clara thought this was weird because who meets up at a hotel for an audition? But she wants this career. And maybe he's just

So busy that the only time that he can squeeze into his schedule is she comes to the hotel, he does a little audition, and it's done. Clara shows up in Epstein's hotel room at the shutter's hotel, and he tells her to undress. He walks over and starts ripping her clothes off of her, almost saying things like, "Let me manhandle you for a second." Then he walks around her doing circles, pretending to evaluate her measurements in person. But he just Keeps groping her the whole time. She stops him, grabs her clothes, runs out of the room,

reports it to the authorities, who do absolutely nothing. They did nothing about it. They told her, "Yeah, well, it is your word against his." Clara was terrified of going public with everything when Jeffrey Epstein had all the money and the power and she's just another small model in the industry. She didn't think anyone would care or listen. This would Be the second way Epstein would recruit girls. But Jean Brunell vehemently denies being part of any of this. Brunell would actually go on to sue Jeffrey Epstein and state that his friendship and association with Epstein had

caused him irreversible damage to his reputation and career. He stated, "Parents don't want to send their children to work with me because one of the first things that pop up when you Google my name is trafficking." Yeah. Well, he's dead now. Police tracked down Wait, wait, who's dead? Jean Bernell, huh? He died, too. Yeah, lots of people died. Wow. Now, in 2005, police tracked down yet another woman who gave Epstein massages. And it was so clear Epstein had a type. When police were investigating trying to find anyone who had been victimized by Epstein, they came

across a real masseuse. Now, interesting thing to note, she only got paid $100 a massage and she gave actual deep tissue massages. When police asked, "Did he ever try anything with you? Did he try to grope you? Ask you to take off your clothes?" "No." She said, "I'm not his type. He goes for young, thin, and girls with no tattoos." The real masseuse said that she knew Epstein didn't like her tattoos because she had them visibly Showing and Epstein would tell her multiple times to her face that he didn't like her tattoos. This whole investigation

was really rough for Nenah. I mean, her dad told authorities that they had a PI stalking their house, taking pictures of them, chasing visitors away. I mean, it was terrifying for Nenah. She knew that Epstein was powerful, well-connected. Who knows? Who knows what he's going to try and do to stop her from testifying against him? Even during the police investigation into Jeffrey Epste, the Palm Beach Police Force felt like they were being investigated, which they absolutely were. They were. It's believed that Jeffrey Epste's attorneys hired private investigators to look into the investigating detectives, which I

believe is not illegal at all. Like, they're entitled to do that. But allegedly, just as how Chief Ryder went through Jeffrey Epste's trash, allegedly Jeffrey Epstein's private investigators went through the chief's trash. What? Like they're trying to look for blackmail material. Yeah. Something to discredit them. He's clearly capable. And Jeffrey Epstein is one to play dirty. Epstein's attorneys provided prosecutors with evidence pages from Nenah's MySpace page, specifically her about me column. Under best physical feature, Nenah had written ass and eyes. Ever drank? Ever Smoked pot? Yes. Ever shoplifted? Lots. Ever skinny dipped? Yeah. Do you

want to lose your virginity? already lost it. Epstein's attorneys were trying to use this to discredit her story, which none of it should matter at all, but it worked. The prosecutor brought these printouts to Nina, shoved them in her face, and started accusing her of all sorts of things, and it just felt like Tina, they were on Epstein's side. Epstein's attorneys basically argued That Epstein was just passionate about massages. They said the massages are therapeutic and spiritually sound for him. That is why he had so many massages. This is crazy. By the way, Epstein's legal

team was insane. I mean, it talk about a dream team. Not morally, ethically, I think that's up for debate, but talk about on paper a dream team. This was it. He had the attorney who represented OJ Simpson. The grand jury recommended Epstein be charged with one felony count of solicitation of work. Nothing about underage women. Ebstein was released within hours on a $3,000 bail. And by that point, investigators had found 30 victims. They have 30 victims, but they couldn't charge him anything more severe. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. It's kind of ridiculous. No. Now,

the DA's office went a step further. They gave Epstein a nonprosecution agreement, basically known as a sweetheart deal, where they stated that he would not be prosecuted in the Southern District of Florida for felony offenses involving abuse of underage girls. so long as Epstein plead guilty to state felony offenses for solicitation of sex work and procurement of minors for sex work. And in this particular district, any of Epstein's co-conspirators would be immune from Prosecution for those crimes. In this instance, Epstein was facing more than a decade in prison. But with this sweetheart deal that none

of his victims knew about before he signed it, he would get out in 18 months. And because he didn't get much time, there was split reactions from the public. A good chunk of the public, including friends of Epstein, immediately cut ties with him. Whether they did that because they think this Guy is horrible and he's been accused of doing heinous things or because they don't want to be associated with someone like that for their own image, it's unclear. But a big group started hating Epstein after this. But some some people felt like, well, because he

got so little time compared to what he was being accused of, it was almost a feeling to people of maybe we don't really know what's going on. Like maybe there's more to the story or maybe he's Guilty but he's not that guilty. Epstein's old friends from high school still defended him and one said, "You know, this is, by the way, this is when you're 50some. How the hell do you know what your high school buddy is up to and what they're like now?" But he said, "Jeffreey's a brilliant and good person. He's also incredibly generous.

The problem in Florida, as I see it, is he got carried away. Perhaps he was hanging out with the wrong people. Yeah, he was Hanging out with minors." Another friend stated, "I have a son who's dyslexic and Jeffrey's gotten close to him over the years. He got him into music, bought him his first piano, and then and as he got to school and had difficulty in studying, Jeffree got him interested in taking flying lessons, which, yeah, is very typical. Predatory men who are usually only dangerous to those that they see as prey. And in this

situation, it was women and children and Not those people who are trying to be as character witnesses." At this point, after the very first sweetheart deal, there's mixed reviews on Jeffrey Epste. He was not publicly seen as the Jeffrey Epstein that he is seen as today. I think over the next 10 years, the public will shift. But immediately at in like 2008, it wasn't like that. In an interview with New York Magazine, the reporter talked to Epstein about his whole quote legal ordeal. That's what The journalist called it, your legal ordeal. Not your crimes, your

legal ordeal. And the journalist said, "You know, it's kind of like the Icarus story, someone who flies too close to the sun, which is already kind of a bold statement, but Epstein responds," did Icorus like massages? Jeffrey Epstein alluded to the idea that his playfulness had unintended consequences. And he said, "This is what happens with wealth. There are Unexpected burdens as well as benefits. I'm not blameless." Since then, since his sweetheart deal, Epstein told the journalist he hired a board of directors, his friends, who would counsel him on his behavior. So, kind of like a

board of directors for a company, but for him, he also hired a full-time masseuse, a man. While in prison, if you tried to email Jeffrey Epstein, he had an automatic reply set up that would read on vacation. Now, Epstein could have paid for the bail for every single inmate in the prison that he was in, but he didn't because he was very busy running the prison. It stated that Epstein's prison was so relaxed, he basically got a whole wing to himself. His cell door was never even really locked. He was able to move freely about

in the common areas, watch TV, and within 3 and 1/2 months, he didn't even need to stay in the prison anymore. He was free to leave for quote Work release, meaning he could leave the prison for 16 hours a day, 6 days a week. He was allowed to have visitors, women, girlfriends, female assistants that were allegedly involved in everything. It was bizarre. Why is that? Is it just a very relaxed prison for Rich? Yeah. Okay. He only stayed there for 13 months. He was released with an ankle monitor, Which sounds okay. At least he got

an ankle monitor, right? No, he was still allowed to take his jet and go on work trips to all of his different homes and even to his private island. For exercise, he was allowed to take long walks around Palm Beach, even in busy shopping centers for exercise. So, I don't know what that ankle monitor was doing. Wow. His like legal team just did all of that for him and he's basically free. He got like nothing. I mean, nothing. The only quote annoying thing he had to do, if you could even call it that, was register

as a level three offender, which is the highest level and is categorized as high risk of reoffending. But it's Jeffrey Epstein. He's loaded. What does that mean to him? Nothing. And oddly, he's not allowed to watch X-rated videos on the internet. I don't know. That's like part of his probation. Jeffrey Epstein was a free man again July 22nd, 2009. And for a decade, he would live his life as normal, flying between his private residences, mingling with the ultra elites of society, visiting his private island, and creating more victims. He made victims after his first prison

release. He would meet women and victimize them. He would meet girls and victimize them. He would also hang out with Prince Andrew afterwards. And for 10 years while he's free, the public is starting to slowly Get more and more intrigued by Jeffrey Epstein in his case. A big part of that was one of the housemen that worked closely with Epstein tried to sell a list, a little black book of clients, if you will. He stated that in this list named all the underage girls in places where Epste had taken all the underage girls. He also

alleged the papers included a list of high-profile famous individuals like Henry Kissinger, MC Jagger, Ted Kennedy, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, alluding to the idea that they are doing disgusting things. Allegedly, the Houseman tried to sell it for $50,000, which he was arrested for it because you can't sell stuff like that. And he got 18 months in prison. Ironically, the same amount of time that Epstein got for his crimes. Insane. I mean, I will say that it's pretty messed up for him to try and sell it Because, you know, the girls names are on there, but

the fact that he got the like his crime is it's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And all of this would happen until almost exactly 10 years later, Jeffrey Epstein would be found dead in his prison cell. He would be rearrested and found dead with theories circulating of if he actually self-exited or if someone Powerful killed him or how much did his right-hand woman nicknamed his madam galain Maxwell. How much did she know about all of this? How much was she involved? Galain Maxwell the link in all of this that is she's still very much alive

and apparently she's writing a tell- all book in prison right now and she is a fascinating character. Some victims seem to hate her more than they hate Jeffrey Epstein. And we will be getting into Galain Maxwell and more on The island, the island on Sunday's episode. So, in a few days, we're going to be covering the crimes of Epstein's island, more victim stories on how they were quote trained on the island, what happens when you try to escape the island, and how Galain Maxwell was Jeffrey Epstein's secret weapon. So stay tuned for part two. Please

stay safe and I will see you guys on Sunday.