yeah I'm just waiting for a little drink cuz I've got a tickle in my throat I hardly ever go to the cinema I find it too boring I it's something it's a waste of my time I can't do it I think I'd rather just stand at a bus stop than go to the cinema I always like clothes as a child and even would sort of Imagine a beautiful dress which somehow I never had and um yes because there was a big thing that irritated me that somehow it was only little girls with curls that Were
Somehow seemed to be pretty and um I very often got more plain dresses that probably suited me really well but I really liked the idea of very very frilly things that's what I wanted as a teenager I my mother and father never gave me much spending money at all and so the way I budgeted is I made all my clothes and I spent my money on shoes every now and again I bought shoes but that's that's it and I bought Fabric and I used to be able to make a dress out of a yard of
fabric which is 306 6 in and just by putting it around you and making a tiny seam and putting darts I could just about get a dress out of a meter of fabric those little dresses but I made tailored suits and whatever yeah if it was a pencil SC then I had to have a very tight one I didn't want to be a fashion designer at all I did it to to be to help a boyfriend that I had whose name was Malcolm McLaren Malcolm started to work on this group The Sex Pistols but we
started in fashion together before that and I started fashion to help him I didn't want to do it well I've been doing fashion for 30 something years 35 probably and I think it's only in about the last 15 to 20 years that I've actually enjoyed it I never wanted to do it I don't say never the at the at the stage I want the stage I did start to do it I didn't want to do it I did it because I could I've always been able to make things uh I think at the age of
five I could have made a pair of shoes you have to know where to start um did I try to help sidvicious um I like I I I liked Sid Vicious I didn't try to help him Sid when I first knew him he was very striking person a very very likable person but he was a junkie right from the minute that you met him and and I didn't think that you know there's not much you can do I don't think I can remember how we started with the safety pins I know how we started ripping
things up people were getting rather tired of hippies and looking for something else and this is in 1970 and and I would say that it was the beginning of the age of nostalgia the walls were totally covered with Pages toy out of 50s pinup magazines the women were often wearing TN clothes as if they'd been on a beach you know they' just been sort of like washed up off of shipwreck or something and or they'd just been raped or something and their clothes were all torn and um we started tearing clothes up I don't know
when I started started to do it I was interested in this period around the time of the French Revolution with all this teased hair and these sort of frock coats and stripy trousers and they were called the anqua anyway so I started to make those clothes and then um I I didn't like them because actually they looked too much like Rod Stewart they looked a bit hippie again um I just wanted to say that it was me that invented this Anarchy sign that was my symbol that's what I thought I thought we don't need all
these horrible old people who've been running the world you have to go faster than the system that's what I learned to after after that whole exercise I think people need clothes it can help people instead of looking like a clone or a cipher in this people have never looked so Dreadful ever if if you buy something that really suits you it it um talks about your character and your personality and it's like yeah there's that guy again wearing that who's got that great coat but with that amazing hairstyle and you know it's it's you know
it's good rather than you know these Anonymous people who you know you don't even bother to focus on them the Paradox is that people think that if they wear something simple and nons saying that somehow they themselves will emerge all the more stunning and Beautiful from it it's not true it might be true no not not even true of Christy Turlington you know no no I don't want to see Christy Turlington in a T-shirt and jeans she can why not if you're born you know somebody a freak of beauty why not you know look like
a goddess why not