Reviewing Jordan Peters Training with Hypertrophy Coach Joe Bennett

What is up guys why would you ever listen to this ridiculous meat head look at all this meat look how big his head is why would you listen to this guy I'm sure his head is full of meat well I'm going to tell you why I should listen to this guy um I'm going to start off right and get to the point where I personally think of everyone that's out there on the internet putting out content on social media YouTube most people that Are searching and looking for the answers how do I get big how

do I get huge and just consuming hours and hours and hours of information would probably be better off starting listening to Jordan Peters even before they come to someone like myself perceivably a nerd and I'm going to clarify why so first and foremost if you guys are here for some trash talk go follow some kids that have no manners I'm a grown man and I don't Trash Talk other men that I Haven't spoken with met with worked out with at length and so for you guys new here um I know Jordan Peters very very well

we've trained in person I believe the last time we trained we both deadlifted I think I deadlifted uh six plates for my top set he deadlifted seven that's the last time I've been with within one plate of Jordan on pretty much anything right now I'd have to do the pink dumbbells while he's still a man um but on top of that we Have spoken many many times we actually probably have WhatsApp conversations that if we took and we took the audio and we took the long what we've written back and forth and turned it into

some sort of ebook we could sell for a large amount of money um so I love Jordan peers because from someone that's coming from the outside may seem that we are at odds uh but in a lot of ways we are actually similar where I consider both of us um kind of some balancing Meatheads SL nerds clearly if we're going to tip the scales one way or the other especially where I'm at now I'm more on the nerd side and he's maybe more on the Meathead side and so I think uh in reality lots of

the conversations we've had we balance each other out well um and from the outside viewer um balance is something that the world needs right now so the reason that I say Jordan Peters is someone that the average person could watch now again That's not every single person watching this some of you guys probably actually just love training love working really hard and can consume some nerve at information and just seamlessly integrate it with your great adherence your great word work ethic but tons of people out there now are just they just like consume stuff for

hours and hours and hours lots of inaction lots of over analysis and so Jordan Peters despite being very smart despite being a nerd And wanting to look at how he can get better um has so much of the base stuff around training nailed right that so many other people so many Nerds particularly could work on um that I think he's a great person to look at so what am I going to do today I'm going to go through these are the key points so if you want to skip around some of these aren't interesting I'm

going to tell you a little bit ahead of time what we're going to look at first and foremost We're going to talk about some mindset type stuff just your view on training your approach to training and again if I mess something up it's like we're not best friends we don't hold hands every single day I not reading his mind I don't have everything for bait him so Jordan if I mess something up or misquote you get down in the comments and tell me some call me some ridiculous British slang that's the other thing uh the

UK man they're just on another level Over there with slang he's going to call me a knob or something like that or a wanker um or I don't know something else but they just we we we just can't compete with the uh the slang that they've got going over there so we're going to talk about some mindset when I say nuts and bolts we're actually going to talk about some of the actual kind of on paper stuff with training um I'm going to do a little bit of movement analysis not going to go super super

Deep in reality like the subtle stuff where maybe Jordan could and like everyone could improve the Teeny spit training we probably actually already talked about it so there was a long period of time where Jordan and I have consulted each other for advice for long periods of time probably spanning back I don't know six seven eight years and there were times we having conversations all the time where I'd give him some feedback and he'd maybe say maybe I'll Try that then come back later and tell me that it's stupid and it didn't work or something

seemed helpful so anyway the very nitpicky stuff that might benefit him I'm not going to get into too much here I'm just going to go into most of the stuff that he does really well that you guys could benefit from and then I'm going to talk about also that you're not Jordan so just like when I review Ronnie Coleman or Jake hutler I'm not saying and Jordan will be the First to say this you should em emulate every single thing he does and expect to look like him uh because you won't because you're not him

for a whole bunch of reasons aside from drugs everyone's going to say why are we talking about this drugs drugs drugs go talk to Jordan about drugs if you want to learn all the drugs he's ever taken and everything about him go to his website pay for it um because there's no mystery or secret about it everything I'm GNA tell you Though is just as beneficial for you and honestly maybe more so because he already knows all this whether you do or do not do drugs ever if you don't do drugs you'll just be a

smaller version but bigger than you are right now and better than you are right now it just won't happen as fast and you won't quite as get quite as far so there's the peed conversation get down in there and tell me how all this is irrelevant later on people that will never be big for other Reasons so mindset um the thing about Jordan and from knowing his story a little bit um is he's a guy of action um and honestly I'm going to kind of cuz I the only other person I know better than Jordan

really as far as training as myself I'm going to compare a little bit as we go along here um it seems like so many people that are successful at improving their physique ACT first and think later now again there's always some balance here I look back at some of The stupid stuff that I did most of the stupid stuff I look back on fondly um most of the stupid stuff I look back on didn't really set me back um I just wented and I got to work I didn't ask for permission um I didn't maybe

analyze for like 16 hours before I actually fix figured out what the perfect split was I did of course read some stuff what was Arnold doing is kind of how I got started um and again just because it wasn't off the rails with stuff I grew Some muscle and then as I was growing as I was doing as I was passionate obsessed um then I started to think a little bit and sometimes again there's nothing wrong with thinking a little bit which we'll talk about um but I really think action is the missing piece for

a lot of people right now most people if they just got to work worked hard and adhered to it for a long period of time and never turned on social media depending on the type of person might be better Off than what's the thing now where everyone asks permission to everything you Lally have to ask your influencer hey I'm doing arms today I'm doing unilateral work is it okay for me to wipe my ass with just my left hand before I poop before I do curls or should I do both hands am I going to

have some different mode of recruitment is there too much fatigue from that someone's asked that question in all seriousness I'm sure some of the Questions are just just go in get to work and then again you can analyze some stuff later and this is where we'll have a nice balance we'll talk about between action and passion like I said the one of the biggest things that actually I I think about why it pisses me off so much and this just isn't the Nerds this is also the Meat Heads um if I look back on my

career and not just professionally as a trainer a coach but look out on my lifting career which spans over 25 years Now I loved it all of it I loved it when I was a pure meat head I loved it when I've gone to like I paid so much money to go lur and literally nerd out about you know equipment analysis exercise analysis all it and I loved every single second of it so right now if you're following someone that pisses you off I've had people complain to me and say the Nerds are ruining it

you know I'm just I can't even go into the gym and have fun anymore because I'm thinking I'm going to do this wrong I'm not optimal they're not ruining it you're allowing it to ruin it for you if a nerd pisses you off and you don't like their stuff and it's ruining the gym for you stop following them at the same time some methe head's going to make fun of you because you're doing a single arm cable pull down cuz you don't feel like doing a single arm Hammer Strength pull down cuz it works better

for you and that's upsetting you ignore them do Whatever the hell you want to do in the gym and enjoy it so if you're a nerd if you're pure Meathead or if you're some hybrid combination of both enjoy it have passion for it if I look back the only thing that I would regret is if I ever let someone else take away my enjoyment from everything that I love doing in the gym so whatever you love lean into that own it and Jordan does that and this ties right in with self-awareness Jordan loves everything he

does he loves being A a stereotypical cliche meat doing some stupid methe head stuff he also likes sometimes thinking and doing things that fit better for him and that is he's self-aware so all you guys out there could do with a little bit more action a little bit more passion and just trying to be self-aware of where that may or may not produce some shortcomings in the chase for being optimal and again the term optimal which is actually something that really kind of came into the Industry from Tom pervis and people have beat up and

ruined Is Not a Bad Thing optimal just means hey if I can do a curl and both of them get me big biceps but one of them ruins my elbows which one's more optimal and that's a simple example that leads up to everything should I eat 50 g of protein a day or 200 grams of protein a day if I'm a 200 lb male trying to get bigger one of those is more optimal so the word's not bad everyone should try and be doing Things better but just be self-aware of where your limitations may be

I've seen Jordan say this is kind of dumb but I enjoy the dumb and here's some of the problems that may happen from it that's what it's all about self-awareness managing expectations everybody should do a little a little bit more of that so act enjoy it and be aware of where you're at if you tend to be too much of a nerd then really pay attention to the stuff I'm talking about with Jordan if You're Jordan and you're watching this and I'm saying all the stuff that you do well when I nitpick some of the

stuff pay attention to that maybe nerd just a teeny bit more basically you should constantly kind of have that balance as long as this all ties in with again the the chase of being optimal should also just have this idea of having a growth mindset successful people anywhere in life always know that they can be better they don't let it bog them down and get All grumpy and sad about I suck at everything no they just realize is there a better way I could be doing things with training with nutrition um with business with relationships

with everywhere in life that's not a bad thing but I kind of say depending on the type of person you want all of these things first and then this kind of stuff comes after that in reality they canot kind of all go together this really isn't a curriculum or class if you're Following this verbatim and you want to pick the order you're listening to the wrong guy but the reality is growth mindset is great as long as it doesn't take away from the other things like I said there was never a point in time first

I did a whole bunch of dumb stuff and then when I started to think about okay I've been doing this dumb stuff for two years and this body part hasn't grown maybe I should seek a little bit of a better way or I've been doing this Thing I feel like I have to do but now this joint is wrecked maybe I should see if there's a better way none of that ever took away from any of that I still enjoyed what I was doing I still kept going to the gym I didn't ask for permission

first so again this notion that a growth mindset is somehow at odds with these really isn't you just want to kind of make sure things are kind of in the right sequence so if you look at Jordan he acts he loves what he does He's aware of all the good and bad he's very aware of what works because of how massive he is how massive he's helped hundreds and thousands of people have get and also he has a growth mindset so like I said there's times and reasons he was chatting with me despite being bigger

and definitely way more British than I am he was still chatting with me about how could I maybe do this better this exercise better these things more efficient the same stuff especially as Like I said similar things things would kind of rise up this hurts that hurts how can I work around this all that kind of stuff all of those things were literally because he has a growth mindset and it never took away from this he just go to the gym crack on every single day see him British is rubbing off of me crack on

we don't actually say that over here in America but they say that over there going to crack on but he kept doing all that stuff any Conversation with me it didn't matter if we nerder for two hours about super random stuff it didn't change his workout the next day for a negative way it might just mean different angle different foot position different exercise even so mindset I think the whole industry could use a little bit more of this um like I said that pendulum kind of goes and swings back one one day I feel like

10 years ago it was still a little Bit Meathead heavy and you know thinking was just completely frowned upon like you're an idiot and now we're a little bit nerd heavy so let's all kind of get that back to the middle and get some results in there so nuts and bolts this is the most basic stuff and even some of the Nerds have just made this stuff complicated get stronger um Jordan can probably tell you he's got log books I just picked a bunch of random pictures from Jordan these are the best I could Find

on the internet Jordan's probably like why the hell did you pick this picture idiot cuz these are the only ones I could find man Google I searched them cut them out with a little app boom now you're there um but get stronger um same thing that again outside of all of this stuff I'm sure Jordan has movements that he could look at from 10 years ago 15 years ago five years ago a year ago where the whole goal really is to get stronger now yes of course when I say Stronger I'm not talking one rep

max although I'm sure that was important to Jordan at some point in time but it's never lost track of if you want to get big find the movements that work well for you and you have to get stronger there's no way around them now form is still an important component and a very real component in my opinion of progressive overload but form doesn't progress relatively speaking endlessly there's like smaller margins of Opportunity for there where again if you're someone starting out in the gym and only you can do you know 20 PB dumbbell press you've

got this massive margin like how much your form can or how much your load can improve how much stronger you can get is way bigger than oh can I make them a little bit slower a little bit more squeezy now tomorrow's going to be even squeezer the next day after that's going to be the squeezi you can only progress squeez so far so the Basics if you don't have stuff written down how do you know if you're getting stronger don't try and unremember it I have a ballpark whatever it is if you don't focus on

getting stronger within the best muscle building bodybuilding movements for you everything else is relatively Irrelevant in my opinion so standardize form sure let form improve along the way but get stronger and significantly stronger and if you're not tracking things the point is people get Frustrated when this gets harder all normal people will get to a point of diminishing returns and Jordan still does this at this point in time despite at some point in time I'm sure when he started lifting it was just you know one day was a 45 next week was another 45 the

next week after that was a 45 Jordan now he puts biscuits on him that's what they call it again in the UK biscuits those little plates the same thing I'm a big fan of putting a little like kilo Plate on a half kilo a quarter kilo plate whatever in pounds I don't even know what that translates to I don't even no one can do the math um but basically realizing that despite the fact that that moves to a point of diminishing returns the still the focus should always be to get stronger if you want to

get bigger this is something the Nerds have ruined as well too sorry I'm picking on the Nerds a little bit but I mean that's kind of I'm talking about Jordan so we're going to pick on nerds but increase your body weight you know there's this notion that can you put on muscle while maintaining body weight absolutely I mean that's fairly for I hate to use the word but there's I won't say proven but there is over overwhelming evidence that absolutely you can put on muscle while not increasing body weight that's called recomping but for most

normal people if your goal is to main gain or whatever The term is now it is is it's idiotic in my opinion if you're like me when I started and I was who knows what I was 120 PBS and I was looking at pictures of guys like Jordan or looking at pictures like Jay Cutler someone that literally weighs 150 PBS more than me you need to eat in a surplus now again you don't have to get morbidly obese and eatting a 3,000 calorie Surplus a day but you should be in a surplus and the whole

point is even if we want a science and Say well there's no point to get excessively fat which I agree on a lot of people trying to be in these very fine margins of surplus from personal experience training people that are hard gainers who are watching this this you don't want to be at this very fine margin even if it's technically possible if you're at 100 calorie Surplus a day to grow because you only need so many grams to actually put on tissue whatever is possible the problem is with those Fine margins you actually end

up undereating you know the metabolism tends to be fast your activity tends to be high again for the nervous guy that has a hard time putting on weight you want a realistically decent sized margin where you know for sure you're in a surplus because there's no way to go from 120 lb to 250 lb or even 200 lb without being in a surplus so get stronger increase your body weight those should be the basics of guys trying to Put on muscle and get bigger again as you get more advanced you know the whole difference if

you could go a whole year and maybe significantly recm over the course of a year losing five pounds of body fat putting on five pounds and muscle might be a great goal for someone relatively Advanced that's not trying to they just want to look a little bit better they don't necessarily want to go from again like I said 120 to 250 but most of the people you got to realize if We're putting out content people are searching content someone might be watching this just cuz they like hearing me ramble about muscles and stuff and for

the sheer nerdom of it but most people searching YouTube and social media endlessly want to be huge they don't want to be a little bit bigger um I don't know why my voice went higher but that's the sound when you just want be a little bit bigger anyway some of the other stuff that uh Jordan does very Well I'm not going to get into this too much because those are the basics that everyone watching this should focus on first and foremost and then Jordan has great content maybe I'll try and Link it out here if

Trevor can Trevor make a note we're going to link one of Jordan videos up here where he talks a whole lot about the balance of volume frequency and intensity and again for most people thinking even if you're a very very beginner just get stronger Just increase your body weight as far as the balance of what your split is the frequency the volume you know the intensity yeah all that's important but just make sure you got this first and then Jordan does a great way of explaining how all of that especially as you get more advanced

becomes more and more important you know in the beginning you just don't want to do something completely off the rails and extreme one way or the other you know super high Volume super low volume or whatever it is um but but again as you get more and more advanced Jordan has some really really good stuff cuz Jordan's like one of those guys where he's literally he's been at his genetic limits for like 10 years so that stuff and that balance comes so much more important when you're just scraping and clawing for every last couple ounces

as you can get and then we'll talk a little bit well to it's like Jordan if you look through a bunch Of his stuff and you look at why he does the exercise that he does this is the great part is at some point in time maybe not for Jordan but I'm sure bench pressing I know for a fact there W were some movements he did a lot bench pressing barbell back squatting whatever it is and there may have been a time where there was an emotional attachment to those but in reality once you realize

you know what we're trying to do from a putting on muscle standpoint you really Look at what are the main things that are important number one is Longevity if you can't progress something for a long periods of time because you're orthopedically wrecked doesn't matter how good the exercise is and then from there just having this idea of there's a slightly more effective range of motion and I've said this 8 billion times I'll continue to say it it's not this last tiny 6 Ines of what we perceive as lengthened um it's probably just biasing Slightly towards

the mid to length and that's why if we look at movements that Jordan's doing you know we're talking about presses we're not talking about him squeezing in the shorten range we're not also talking about him just squeezing this lengthen range we're talking about stuff that load from the lengthen through the mid-range significantly and that's what we're going to talk about with upper body presses lower body presses squatting leg Pressing even when we're talking pulling motions things are getting through that lengthened and the mid-range and not getting obsessed again the the mistake you can make with

range of motion is getting stuck in that squeezy Zone and that is where it's like oh I feel flies here the best so I'm going to stay there I feel curls they're the best again between the lengthened and the fully shorten so we're picking that last little bit Yeah the lengthen is probably More important but realistically from exercise selection it's probably the mid-range to the lengthen range is the most most effective and there's a couple little exceptions moving on so we're going to talk a little bit now about some of his movements and actually doing

movement analysis a little bit so for push you know I didn't go in I just want to go cut kind of some of the big stuff that Jordan does literally big stuff so we have some sort of overhead High Inclin pressy type thing now the nerd's going to get out the protractor and ignore the bigger part so they're going to see this video and say well you trying to get some clavicular fibers or the front delt or whatever it is and they're going to ignore this part look at that part that's four plates and a

quarter on there for some sort of high pressy type thing and let's look at the range of motion that he's going through so we'll go back let me pause pause game So we got here at the bottom where is the bottom so not just looking look at how low he brings relative to his chin which is low but your delt doesn't cross over your did I mess up my pen oh there we go the delt doesn't cross over come on pen this is his upper arm kind of down here did I get that right yeah

there we go more like that Jordan very inconveniently put that plate in front of the video here so next time you film that Jordan move those little plates off There but the whole point is here lots of bigger movements which again should be the base of your programming not really because of anything magical about so again if we were talking more hardcore he'd be doing a free weight if he was the most hardcore he'd be doing the same thing standing so this is a perfect example of yes you should do bigger movements because you want

the bigger movements are going to tend to be the ones where you overload again that Mid and length and range like an overhead press will be but also not being a ding-dong And feeling the need to be more manly because again if we just think of a picture of the most manly thing people talk about standing overhead press or even seated overhead free barbell press the reality is this is this whole balance of like again not everything has to be completely free weight or completely in but in general which I mostly agree with the more

Stable something is the better the output is so biggest thing we're looking at here more than anything else which I made some notes here we'll talk a little bit about arm path but the most important thing is the obvious stuff look at the range of motion that he's choosing every single thing I'm going to point at he works significantly well through the mid to lengthened range and just gets ridiculously brutally strong here where you can sit here and analyze Is this more for front delts more for clavicular fibers more for sternal fibers and whatever it

is the whole point that missing is if you guys at home can comfortably go to this range of motion which 95% of human beings can and you can go through there with control and you can load it and you progress to four plates in a corner your pressy stuff is going to be big so we look through all of his movements while I erase some stuff on here again Jordan Move those next time here's another overhead pressy thing look at the range of motion on this one so look he goes from here so super duper

tucked to where overhead he's covering a huge range of motion again so what is this this is another overhead pressy again we can analyze his angle and say what is he talking about mainly some front delt some triceps for sure and some clavicular fibers whatever but he's going through maybe 110 degrees range of Motion and he's really loading really lengthened through the mid-range and staying just shorten so it's like this is the stuff where again everyone wants to overanalyze stuff and I'm not saying there's not a place for flies I'm not saying there's not a

place for whatever but in reality for your pressy stuff pick a overhead pressy thing pick a flat pressy thing so we got another flat pressy thing here and look how low he's coming Again looking at his upper arm super duper tucked can't really get the good angle here because he's thick but his upper arm tucking down there somewhere at that point tuck down in at his side and again this is one of those things what is he getting some front delt some clavicular fibers some of the lower fibers cuz he's stretching past his body and

what is he even loading when you have this option what's the load pattern here so if you're not familiar with Prime he's overloading most of the load is in the lengthen through the midrange um and again on those machines if we want to be a little bit of a nerdy here that's kind of split in here but that's generally how you do it maybe even sometimes a little bit more at the top um but again we're looking to get huge you're doing pressing Mo motions what is the range of motion to have the mid to

lengthen range and then we'll pick on Jordan teeny bit because I can't be Completely nice the entire time so again what with the loading pattern on this machine how that lever arm works and where it is relative essentially to gravity he is going again lengthened to mid-range if I was going to pick on because Jordan gave me permission to actually say to learn some stuff here um is looking a little bit how much his sternum is moving here so if I was saying Jordan's like Hey Joe I'm I weigh 8 million pounds I want to

weigh 8 Million1 pounds at the bottom let's see where his sternum angle is here sternum angle is there as he's coming to the top where is his sternum angle sternum angle is here um so there's some fairly significant motion from the range of motion now again if I was actually Jordan asked me which he didn't but he gave me permission to pick on a little bit that would be some of the nitpicky stuff we'll talk a little bit towards the end of this about really trying to Have balance of those things um and all this

comes from things that I don't understand there's been times when I've been moderately strong but the level of how much weight this is and how much weight Jordan presses on various machines is absurd um because the size of Jordan is absurd so the tolerance of having this perception of what working hard feels like what having load on the body feels like so if we're going to error on one side or the other here Jordan tends to I think error on the hardworking side side because I would say all other things considered that's the more important

side to error on but if I was saying Jordan if you want to kind of balance those things out a teeny bit I would if I were you start to sometimes favor a little bit more on the for me side type thing because again the whole point of this is his all these fibers attach to the sternum and cross over the shoulder joint so as he comes Down to the bottom and he lets his ribs drop a little bit he's actually not getting as much length as he could so again if you imagine these crossing

over here acrossing over my shoulder joint see if I can clear these off here so if these attach from here to here if his ribs so he's got it right here if his ribs were higher and those same muscles came along for the ride from there to there you should see that second thing I just drew is longer so again if you're Kind of caved in a little bit you're going to get so much length and if your chest is up and extended and your upper arm stays in the same position you're actually get a

little bit more length there so the goal in the perfect world is not having the ribs move all your shoulder blades can move a little bit when you're pressing but again in the perfect world is keeping those ribs in a fixed position the whole time because either way you're going to lose Something a little bit so as you're coming up and getting into that shorten position you cave you're going to miss a little bit and as you're trying to come in that stretch position and you cave you're going to miss a little bit of length

as well so there you go Jordan there's a little form tip let's make sure we uh clean that up for next time that you're pressing 8 billion pounds and then same thing come into a dip we'll watch Jordan dip he weighs 8 Million pounds and has 8 million PBS added to his waist and where does he go so pretty darn good if I was going to draw some lines of force which the peak here is through the hand well actually certainly not at that angle gravity and we look where his upper arm is he's taking

pretty much right to the point of peak joint torque and I'm guessing Jordan has so much tissue or maybe a little bit of some shoulderyoutube Though Jordan might have some stuff going on that's still pretty darn Jeep right about to the point of peak joint torque that he can get from that given load so again not having any super duper mystery to this not making it overly complicated if you do your pressing motions where you one figure out where you have Pete Peak joint torque you go there you own there as long as you can

comfortably go there and then you progress those loads over time all of Your pressing stuff is going to be Giant and then from there you'll see Jordan just does some different arm paths I've never really had a conversation about that but again on overhead pressy thing sometimes a little bit out sometimes a little bit in chest press I've seen sometimes a little bit tuck sometimes a little bit here find the arm path that works best for you and again really working through those mid and lengthen ranges all these can work you know as You're coming

more across the body a little bit more of a high elbow position I think is beneficial um but again especially for most of this length into the mid-range tucked to high elbow is fine just go with shoulder joint Comfort moving on to pull stuff my favorite thing to watch Jordan do pulling heavy stuff off the ground so first and foremost find a deadlift variation that does this spine pretty much parallel to the ground You know if we basically have the line of force from the bar and we have essentially the moment arm here which is

going to be the distance from that line of force to the train joint is essentially very close to 90° then we're basically maximizing joint torque for everything from that line of force from the load that he's using and that's the little point you ever hear somebody talk about doing it doesn't matter how much knee Bend or how much whatever just get Your spine parallel ground which tends to be less knee Bend which tends to be more like an rdle type thing that's going to be the one that creates the motion joint torque at the hips

and at all the spine and erector along the way for a given load and so if you do something like this you bend over with that much load maintain a beautiful spine angle like Jordan does and you get up to this type of weight you're going to look like a gorilla because that's What Jordan looks like just some sort of giant gorilla when he's lifting the weights and then for anybody that doesn't know any better too having seen Jordan in person the first time we trained in between sets I accidentally set my car keys down

on his back and I lost them inside of his traps so someone will say looking at this the reason for that hilarious dad joke is it looks like there's a teeny bit of rounding there I promise you there is not he has so much Erector meat that you really can't see at all where his spine is I'm not kidding he probably has like three or four inches of meat before you would actually get down and be able to poke his spine so if you ever watch as he goes through this stays very fixed it looks

slightly rounded his spine is completely neutral and as he goes goes through his deadlifts there's not a ton if at all any flexion extension and uh Jordan will tell you he's been Deadlifting for a minute and is pretty darn good at keeping that locked in and unchanging so just from the sheer standpoint of how do I get a ginormous huge back prioritizing again if you're looking at thickness erector stuff find a variation run it into the ground and kind of prioritize rows to a certain degree as well too if we're looking at overall back development

if you do some proper rowing not only will you get a significant amount of lat involvement Most importantly you'll get all this stuff up here too so you get all this back meat and what I wanted to point at I got to start over for Jordan's Back meat is as he goes through this range of motion through he stretches you can see significantly I mean it kind of almost looks like his back is flat here and we want the goal is to keep that spine still and everything moving around that spine you know his shoulder

blade is somewhere over here so it's as Protracted as you can get and then as he comes to the top well we're GNA get it any minute now and as he comes to the top you can see how much meat we've got bunched up his shoulder blade is now pulled somewhere along here it's changing shapes I was starting to draw a triangle and somehow it turned into a square it morphed it grew from a triangle shape which is your shape your scapula actually is to some sort of Square but it's moved a significant range of

motion and as you're rowing if you want your thickness stuff everything that moves your shoulder blades to get bigger that's really what you want significant range of motion of the shoulder blade and then the upper arms just come along for the ride so he's got this path you really go through a lot of his rowing stuff you'll see sometimes tuck sometimes a little bit wider most rowing stuff I I feel like again it's Worth having two rowing variations something a teeny bit more tucked something a little bit more out but I think if uh I

recall Jordan maybe his capture on this or whatever this is a little bit more lat Focus for him but as you can see as long as your shoulder blades are moving opposing that load you're going to get tons of thickness stuff as well too and from there chest support So in front here I'm not saying there isn't a time to potentially do a Bent over row but bent over rows tend to do two jobs not as well as they could be done if those jobs were done separately and all I mean by that is when

Jordan uses a chest support here we can now make sure that the upper B upper back is getting maximal tax without any distraction or potential fatigue from holding an isometric with the Erectors and the hips and vice versa if he's not having to focus on what he can row and hang on to with a rowing weight and all That kind of stuff he can strap in tight and he can do his deadlift variation and make sure that his Erectors and hips get maximal stimulus so you know bent over rowing stuff without a chest support can

have a place but for the most part especially as you get larger I think you're better off having some really good chest supported row and some deadlift variation and so I said here from there you know arm path you know I think it's worth at some point time two Different ones and of course pull Downs are fine as well too and so again if I had kind of a complete back program just a Bare Bones complete back program roll like this deadlift like Jordan and pull down and you're going to cover all of your lat

stuff your thickness stuff erector stuff and everything that's in between and then again there's no reason most people over the course of their split if you like a little variety a little bit of range motion slightly Different stimulus I don't think there's anything wrong with a pull down like this and a pull down like this like I said I don't think there's anything wrong with a roll like this and a roll like this and a deadlift variation maybe a little back extension so again if your back workout ends up looking like five or six movements

whether you like that all in one or split apart I think that's fine as well too but from a bare bones do the stuff Jordan does and do it well And don't overthink the other stuff all right and then lastly what we'll get into is some leg stuff and so really the thing you want to make sure you're Happening Here is again most people there's nuance and again if you want some more nerd stuff the whole point is go watch some more my things but some of the things that I hammer on as well too

is maximize the range of motion that you have available and so if we're looking here the two ranges of Motion we're going to talk about is knee stuff I might even not got complete in the bottom there but you guys have heard me talk about this angle as for what someone has available Jordan's got a little bit more available than some guys because he does not like hyperring his C as you can see Zing take that Jordan um but reality is full knee flexion is going to be when your hamstring smashes into your calf so

whatever you've got get to that range of motion the same Thing Jordan's doing a hack with 12,000 plates he has pretty darn good control and I'm sure he's progressed at that over time so quads pick some sort of squat variation this is also the thing again balance what Jordan does he's doing a hack Squad he doesn't have to be super manly and put a bar in his back at some point in time he could do a billion pounds with the bar in his back but realize hey this is really taxing on everything everything between that

bar And my legs I want stuff to just be more taxing for my legs so not married to emotion and just getting in these joint positions and loading the crap out of them and then from there we'll talk about the rest of legs and again there's some more stuff Jordan does thrust he does abduct he does hamstrings I mean that stuff's kind of more boring for really trying to be ginormous this is the stuff that you really want to be good at first and foremost so what are We talking about for maximizing range of motion

here so not so much on leg press although this is a lot of quad stimulus as well here too but hopefully you can see the difference in the knee angle there so way less range of motion as he's coming to the top it's more from mid to shortness not very low to the shortness but what do we have here we have a pelvis that is shaped somewhat like this and we have it going up somewhat like this so if we look at Let's call this a fully extended so this would be if his hip was

fully extended with a leg attached to it this is a significant amount of range of motion his hips are going through so leg press done like this it's for sure some quads to the mid-range but a lot of glutes to the length and range as well too and the reality is if you get like Jordan is here and you can take that as deep as you possibly can go considering he's got a lot of tissue everywhere and progress Loads over time although this guy I think this guy right here sorry Jordan deserves part of the

pr on that just make sure you write his name in your log book in conjunction with those 80,000 plates let's be honest Jordan once you get to this many plates nobody can even count that high especially not a meathead you don't you just wrote a lot down there plus John thanks John thanks for the help Zing um but anyway so legs for the most part similar stuff now Again we can get into some hamstrings some adductor stuff as well too but all jokes aside you get to the type of form the type of range of

motion the type of ownership that Jordan has for his pressing movements and you progress those over time you're going to have some parts of your legs ginormous for sure and then lastly as we're finishing up making fun of Jordan here's another picture of him because this is what bodybuilders do completely normal don't Do this in the grocery store you don't just go into the mirror and smile and pull your legs up basically to your underwear but in the gym completely normal behavior and I understand um but this is the stuff if so someone from the

outside like oh Joe how do you like so much of Jordan stuff or like I think that's why I'm doing this I asked on Instagram who people wanted me to see who you guys wanted to see me review the most Jordan was the top by far he was Above like Bumstead Phil Heath a whole bunch of other guys that I haven't gotten to yet um which I think some people feel that we might be at odds with stuff and we are not we're in general like I said there's both of us trying to balance the

nerd and the Meathead he's definitely a little bit more on the Meathead side I'm definitely a little bit more on the nerd side but when we have conversations you know 95% is probably going to be agreeing the Other 5% is like I was just doing giving Jordan a little [ __ ] and he's going to give me some [ __ ] as well too just for the stuff that's really there there can be some coaching preference we obviously have different experiences we work with different demographics we do have some things we offer to the table

but most good trainers or coaches just talk chalk that up literally to coaching preference I mean at the end of the day I've literally never trained someone where I Was like I can't figure out how to put muscle on this person honestly one of the things that Jordan says all the time is putting on muscle is easy shouldn't say putting on muscle is simple and I would agree putting on muscle is simple if you focus on those big things the things that get more complicated are putting on muscle when you've been doing this for 15

years and you're that side the other things are a bit more complicated is getting ginormous while Keeping your joints intact and those are the things we can nitpick but a lot of is were more on the same page than other things and so Jordan says all the time as well too this is what I do and so again if you just kind of skim through some of this stuff and you'll say why is he doing this exercise why isn't he doing that exercise and we do the thing that the internet does is well if he's

doing something he must be excluding something else if he does this exercise He's clearly implying every other exercise is in fear you're stupid and you're an idiot if you ever do it and in reality if you ever read the captions which nobody makes it that far let's be honest we're not a lot of Scholars around here is he says this is what I do and then explains it and then can give you some Concepts as well too oh well why do I do this range of motion why am I not doing squats as much well

my knees hurt there so I'm finding where can I Load and train things without pain aside from the nuts and bolts and when I said went through the whole nuts and bolts stuff that's the stuff that Jordan still does that's the stuff that you should fixate on doing you know kind of exactly like Jordan get stronger put on body weight you know make sure that you're thinking and all that good stuff but aside as the whole exact thing when you read what Jordan does if you actually want to get better you'll find that Subtlety where

there is some Nuance in there well why this exercise over that exercise why this range of motion why this little difference in volume why this split that stuff is cool once you've done stuff that's all on the earlier slides and then again realize when you're learning from someone like Jordan or learning from someone else that's actually doing things at a high level has actually taken their physique far has actually helped a lot of other People do the same then of course this is some stuff where you can say oh if he's doing something specific maybe

I'll read it and I'll learn some cool high level stuff but realized the whole point is you don't have to do almost anything exactly like Jordan when it comes to the specifics you know of some of the exercise selection some of the more specifics and Nuance stuff with volume and all that kind of stuff so don't be attached to movements and this is kind Of a balance to where I say you're not Jordan so one you don't have to do things exactly like him and also you don't have to do all the movements that Jordan

does so there's times we'll say I love this movement like he's obsessed with deadlifting or obsessed whatever it is and there'll be times where he's like oh I'm doing this in spite of that so that's that whole thing where there's some self-awareness like Jordan he's always said his goal has never been to Be the best onstage bodybuilder ever there's times if you actually read through all his stuff and listen to what he says where he talks about how much he loves one just trying to be absolutely ginormous and how much he loves lifting really really

heavy stuff like competing in lifts that nobody cares about like he's got the world record leg press or hip thrust or whatever it is he's writing that half as a joke because that'll never be a competition but also Writing that because for him competing with himself that is very important and so again realize that that part is important important you know knowing why you're doing the movements that you're doing trying to take them as far as you're capable of taking them but also realizing if you do want to do some fun stuff be fine with

it but just be aware of the trade-offs there's been times the same when I've done movements that aren't perfect or optimal or ideal for Hypertrophy but I like doing them that's fine as well too so same thing if you see Jordan doing something there's almost nothing even if the whole thing is about hey this is the thing you should do you're an idiot if you don't if you actually had a conversation in person and said well hey man I really kind of prefer this one and blah blah and you're doing all the stuff you're supposed

to do training really hard doing it consistently progressively he Be like oh yeah of course you don't have to do that thing that's just me just kind of giving everybody [ __ ] so be aware of that kind of stuff this is the thing again of not being Jordan so some of the stuff where I say you know don't get hyp fixated on some things that he say or takes things out of context if you read Jordan is a big fan if that's the right word more of a big advocate for people doing especially people

starting full body you know as you get a Little bit larger doing a half body you know maybe sometimes Push Pull lower he might say but even for most people not the whole point with all that stuff as well too is understand the concepts for most people you know having higher frequency you know being able to repeat the process more often is obviously a better thing there's a reason most people at home probably aren't training every body part once every three weeks because you have this idea of oh well Once every week at least works

better and if you really think about it like well if once every week works better what about once every five days what about once every three days so the idea of more frequency if you can recover from it is obviously a good thing some things that Jordan says if you do full body if you do half body even if you do push pull lower sometimes that will result in if you're people like me not having the most balanced Physique in the Universe meaning if you're always training arms last if you're always training Cavs last remember

I cut them off right here at the Jordan just to do them a favor if you're always training those last they might not be proportionately as large as some of the other stuff and when I started I'm more prone to looking like a refrigerator the first time I had someone that actually knew what they were talking about analyzing my physique they were like Literally what the hell do you do for like glutes and Erectors because I was so fixated on having to do deadlifts and doing barbell back squats which are movements I actually love doing

but my ass was ginormous I was just thick as hell and my chest was actually pretty big but everything else I just didn't have any extremities my delt sucked my arms sucked calvs were okay hamstrings sucked um and so that was that that point in time is like I probably should Have been prioritizing those types of things so I'm being said is don't get too fixated on when do you have to prioritize things a little bit the concept's great if you're brand new and you have no muscle you need to prioritize everything everything sucks so

that's the reason of start with a full body or do a half body or whatever it is so you're just training thing and prioritizing those bigger things again the whole point of that which makes Sense is if you're trying to go from 120 lbs to 250 lbs is you know a curl going to get you there faster or is a heavy row and heavy press going to get there faster right so prioritizing movements that will be most responsible for the most pounds of tissue and if your goal is always to be the most ginormous you

can be and you don't care about that balance thing you can always program that way but at some point in time if your calvs are lacking your delts are Lacking your arms are lacking you can prioritize those you can have those as your own day I give you permission that's still fine or you can just get kind of smart with your programming as well too you could do a full body or half body and you could start with arms on a lower body day or Delta on a pool day whatever it might be and so

again I'm not even saying that lends itself to having to not do a pushpull or not doing a full body or a half body but you can You know program that but it's also just fine to have those days still as well too again some of the stuff taken out of context everyone's so obsessed with frequency right now for a pretty good reason you can still have an arm day it's fine I promise if your arms really suck prioritizing them training them first training fresh and having your own day is not a bad thing um

what's the last one I have here oh yeah and this is the one thing I Said so again if I was talking with Jordan if we were training in person you know like one there's going to be little teeny tiny things I can honest nitpick and when I say nitpick anytime I've work with people that do a ton of stuff well and if you look at the people that I work with just from normally on Instagram or YouTube or whatever I'm blessed to get to work with a lot of very high level people that really

do a ton of stuff well the way I always Present information would never in a million years be like hey that's wrong this is right or that's for sure the worst way to do this is better if he was doing a chess press on the warm-ups I'd say hey really focus on this and then if we're going through your top set really focus on maintain see if that feels or does that fixation on that little form thing take away from your output too much and so with actual strong people I lit had this exact same

conversation Last time I trained Bumstead who is actually ridiculously strong trains very well I say man think about where you're at in your career and especially someone at a high level you're actually strong you know so the difference is so the nerd will say oh instead of you know you know pressing the 100 pound dumbbells I'm going to go back to the 40s and really tighten the form up that's not the way it should work the thing would be someone like Bumstead that's pressing 150s and I say hey man based on all the warm-ups and

everything we did maybe we stick with the 14 or the 140 and if we focus a little bit more on this form thing a little bit more on this control thing one you can maybe have the exact same stimulus or potentially slightly better stimulus and you're also going to reduce the risk for injury that's a really good trade-off at this time so again if I was Jordan is for sure someone who because he's legitimately Actually strong not fake strong again that's the whole reason some people's form is so ridiculous because they're just trying to be

fake strong Jordan is actually strong like legit crazy strong most of the stuff if I went through the gym with him might be one of these things where it's like hey it's not like saying this like twostep forward one step back thing it's like a you know quarter of a step forward and then taking 10 steps forward is that a good Analogy I don't know but the whole thing would be literally is we're going through his warm-up sets and all that kind of stuff it might result in his top set being five% less than maybe

it would have been or 10% less maybe and kind of always having that little back and forth over time I would say hey man really utilize your warm-up sets always have this idea of could I be making this movement harder on myself at the end of the day that's really the difference Between a body Builder and a weightlifter and not just being a weightlifter in a higher rep rep range there still is this concept of how do I make this as hard as possible on myself and kind of having a balance of those things and

there's a whole bunch of ways to go about it where it could be like hey every once in a while every single time you're in the gym I think is the best way to do it really you know analyze the movements doing your warm-up So you're not wasting time you're not doing whatever and always thinking how could I make this harder so again most people at home if you're the nerd if you've never put on any real weight that's probably not you but if you're the smaller percentage of someone that's actually made a ton kind

of progress you're already brutally strong that would be the thing between that whole balance of the sides of or more the form side or more of the load and effort side Jordan I think would probably always benefit from just constantly checking himself hey am I letting my thing that I like the most lifing heavy stuff kind of get away from me here and maybe focus a little bit more on this form thing but at the end of the then I know for a fact Jordan's that stuff that he's very aware of as well too where

it's always balancing like hey yeah sometimes I'm trying this but today I just felt like you know cussing uh yelling at Karen in My quiet gym um while trying to lift some crazy weight and have a lot of fun so again that goes back to that self-awareness and all that good stuff as well too so that is it Jordan if you're if you guys are skinny Jordan is the guy that you want to go check out some stuff so I'm going to promo all of his stuff I think I'll still have my promo at the

end here and get my app to um but I'm going to say go check out all this stuff because honestly if you're Looking to put on some more muscle you want someone that actually has solid great advice I agree with 99% of it not that that matters Jordan is the Man follow him on YouTube follow him on Instagram go to his website buy some of his supplements we'll be the first to tell you supplements aren't that important spend your money on other stuff first and then secondarily get some of his supplements as well and U

he's a great guy that you guys can learn A lot from um and again make fun of him for some other random stuff as well too but until the next time guys hope you guys enjoy this after watching my content have you ever thought to yourself man I like how Joe went to school for this has more formal education than 99% of other coaches with over 20 years and 20,000 hours experience training clients in person how he's managed training departments for several companies and helped develop Literally thousands of trainers as well as the fact that

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