"Flat Earth and the Great Perception" by Matt Long | FEIC 2019

please welcome to the stage mr. Matt long let's see if I can find a presentation here if John's in the room I might need your help John John Gabrielson can I get some help up here sorry folks you me just sing a song or something while we're while we're waiting here all right there we go Ida I got an Apple phone I don't have an Apple computer here thanks buddy Thanks I think that was supposed to be a break but we're just blown right through it how about that where's Dave Weiss do I still get

money if I mention your name before the thing starts or now I figured my go-to since everybody likes Dave Weiss is if I'm struggling during speech I just bring him up and then everyone gives an applause but what a great job he does so Dave Weiss everybody ding ding I think while John's getting this going I might just go ahead and start a little bit John you can be part of my presentation about that keep the glare down though there we go there we go yeah perfect all right awesome and I guess I can shift

this way okay great all right Rick thanks for the awesome intro my name is Matt long and my social media brand and stuff is woke town you can find me on Facebook Instagram and YouTube as well as all major podcast platforms I'm also the co-host of the Flat Earth podcast with David Weiss of deep inside the rabbit hole and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself so that's right before I start I just want to give a little bit of advice I know it's easier to avoid awkward situations like meeting new people and but I just wanna

invite you guys while you're here to relax be yourselves and I promise you'll need some great folks have some great conversations and starts to forge some relationships that are deeper and more meaningful than the ones you came here to get away from so how about that but seriously if you haven't come and said hi to me feel free anytime just grab me say hey I love to meet all you guys so some of you guys know my story I met my wife Jessica at a flat earth conference in Canada back in August of 2018 and

we got married and that following January and then now I'll had our first kid together she had three I had one of my own and it's our first together we had it on November 3rd I thought about naming it Seattle just commemorate the day but actually you know if you guys are doing the math we got married in January 11 months later we had a baby so anybody that was doing that quick math so some of you guys that know my story I was not a conspiracy guy before Flat Earth I was really just kind

of getting back into the Bible and starting to look into things like the age of the earth and evolution the Nephilim fallen angels and so I was watching a lot of stuff by a guy named Rob Skiba and it really respect all the stuff that Rob does and I caught a show he did an interview on Patricia steer show and a lot of times you can't see what the full title is of the video you're about to watch on YouTube and it said Rob Skiba how I got into dot dot dot and I was like

awesome more rough Skiba content so started watching he started talking about flat earth and one of the things that he said was what he should have done at the beginning was go and see what the Bible said and as soon as he said that I knew immediately that not only did the Bible correspond with a flat earth because I've read the verses I was in the middle of studying Genesis but it also aligned with all of my senses and I believe based on what 2nd Thessalonians says that we all have an ability to recognize and

discern truth if we choose to accept it so I feel like my conversion was immediate it was an immediate shot to the chest and then I proceeded to spend no I'd say the next two years making sure I wasn't crazy before I started putting stuff out on Facebook and YouTube and had a bunch of friends asking me like hey is this flatter thing a joke you know and there's a lot of fun getting to tell them no actually it's not but if you've watched in my stuff I'm gonna move this computer a little bit hopefully

not wreck the whole thing but if you've watched any my stuff or listen to podcast you'll know that I have a biblical worldview and while I won't apologize for that mindset I'll at least give you fair warning and even if you don't share that worldview with me I hope you can at least agree that there is good and evil in this world and that that battle is one that surpasses the importance of the shape of the earth so if we can agree on at least that I'm confident that you'll get something out of today for

me the importance of the topic of Flat Earth fluctuates as I dig and discover more each day at the very least someone's research into Flat Earth should absolutely make them question and begin to filter the information that they absorb every day we absorb a lot of information these days and while I do think the earth is flat I would much rather my content lead to someone questioning and thinking as opposed to ultimately accepting my view of the shape of the earth today however I am to show you that just like my other talks on the

Bible people's issue with the Flat Earth is 100% a perception issue and actually has nothing to do with the evidence and that's and that when pursuing truth especially when comparing reality to the written word or the images on a screen it's important to have a good versus evil mind set to help you filter information and evaluate the source that you receive that information and if someone is not actually pursuing truth it doesn't matter how much evidence you show them they're gonna be stuck in their artificial perception of reality and and that is the intent of

the powers that be or evil or the globalist elitist that's their intent to get you stuck in this perception of reality and actually Bank on you not even questioning it so spoiler alert let me change slides here you now will probably never go up in a rocket so we're probably gonna be stuck down here evaluating evidence as it relates to the shape of the earth and not only evaluating but also filtering like I said and here's the crazy thing flat earthers have the same evidence that globus do evolutionists have the same evidence that creationists do

it's like everyone's playing poker with the same hand and I'm convinced some people aren't even looking at the right side of the cards but I digress my first experience with this notion was with the theory of evolution and this notion of having to filter evidence the idea that it there's not just evidence but you have to filter the evidence we have to interpret the evidence I went from questioning something or excuse me I went from never questioning something that I thought was proven to wondering how I could ever be by something so ridiculous and that

should have been my first clue right there if you see that slide any time it takes cartoons to explain something that should probably be a dead giveaway kind of minds me something else but in my 20s I was a super nerd devouring physics and astronomy books like candy trying to figure out exactly how this place worked and the trap that I fell into was if you read those books they'll tell you they have this whole place figured out without God without a creator and they speak about it as if it's proven fact and not just

theory and if the powers that be can control the perception of the other side like Flat Earth people like myself before a few years ago will just reinforce the deception for them people like teachers people like homeschooling parents as long as people think of a square pancake flying through space when someone talks about Flat Earth it's not going to matter how many times you say Chicago skyline it's not gonna matter how many times you say that nASA has satanic roots or that you can still circumnavigate it people are not gonna listen and it's the genius

behind the great perception because in a game where everyone has the same cards they've figured out a way for those cards to not even matter or at least what's on those cards so when I give my talks on the Bible I showed that the books contained in the New Testament are the most historically accurate pieces of literature in the history of the world that there's over 24,000 pieces of manuscript evidence available for those books and that when comparing that to the second-place book in the history of the world it's the equivalent of the New England

Patriots winning a football game seventy four to two and doing that three hundred and twenty straight times no matter what your opinion of the Patriots or their coach or their quarterback if that was the case you'd have to admit they were the greatest of all time even if they weren't your favorite team well again that's what the Bible does to the second most prolific book in the history of the world Homer's Iliad and those twenty four thousand manuscripts were quoted eighty six thousand times prior to 250 AD and the events tained in those manuscripts are

100% backed up by the extra-biblical historical accounts and the last video uploaded on my channel is about that if you want to go check out that more in-depth but I also mention how the Bible is not just one book but many we kind of look at it as like this magical book handed down from God which it kind of is but it's also real men giving real accounts during a real time about real events and the authors of the Bible surrounding Jesus's life they weren't killed for what they believed they were killed for what they

saw if you just read their own words they weren't killed because they were going around starting uprisings and toppling governments they were telling people to be nice to each other and not to lie to each other so they weren't killed for starting revolutions they were killed because the devil wanted the story to die however if you would have told me all those facts in my 20s when I was reading physics books and astronomy books instead of the Bible it wouldn't have mattered because the heliocentric model that I perceived to be proven fact contradicted page one

of the Bible so who cares what else it says so when I found out by the grace of God that the fossil record could actually be better explained by the worldwide flood as opposed to millions of years of non catastrophic processes it started me down a long path which ultimately led to flat earth but no one could have forced me until I was ready to pursue it myself until I was ready to acknowledge the darkness and pursue light and no longer be willingly ignorant like second Peter 3 says so by the time Flat Earth came

along shoot I had I was ready I learned that there was not always just evidence but interpretation of evidence I heard Rob's Kiva a guy that I respected on many other topics looking into it and so I knew I had preconceived notions of it in perceptions but if Skiba was considering it I knew that there had to be another side to things like sunset sunrise circumnavigation and not falling off the edge which people are believed are caused by them living on a ball but in actuality I found out that these things simply correlate to them

living on a ball because if the main characteristic of a ball is curvature yet time and time again we see instances of us being able to see things over long distances that we shouldn't be able to we need to go look for other explanations and other models so sunset sunrise circumnavigation not falling off the edge have explanations on a flat earth and we can't detect the ball what conclusion are we left to make and why is that a hard decision I'll give an example when the clock strikes noon and I go eat lunch my action

of eating food correlates to the clock striking noon but the clock did not cause me to go eat and you can just prove that if just one time I go eat at a different time or one time I go eat without a clock even being in the room so if we have just one example of the heliocentric spinning ball model not working like being able to see things that are too far away we need to scrap it we just start over especially if we can show how these other phenomena can be explained on other models

however we live in a world that hates truth and that's why I think the topic of mindset and perception is an important one so who here decided to wear clothes today pretty much all of us yep first time I asked that question Rick Homer yelled out that his wife made him which I believe it the clothes can say a lot about a person I mean a man may wear a suit to look professional or to appear successful a man like me might wear a t-shirt to be comfortable or look approachable but while clothes can absolutely

speak to the type of person that you are they're not you when I go to bed tonight I take these clothes off and I go to bed everything that's left the real me is gonna go to sleep and in that same fashion we're gonna take these bodies off one day as well and just like close your body can say a lot about the things that you value or give insight into your inner person but once again it's not the real you it's not the real you that can make sounds in your head without moving your

mouth or see places you've been without going there or even your eyes so a neck spirit of acknowledging that this concept is totally foreign to us why wouldn't we start this investigation into the nature of the things that we can't observe with an investigation into the things that we can observe because according to my Bible they were both created by the same person their own stuff off the stage here and just like our clothes and body can tell people a lot about us the creation can tell us a lot about the Creator I mentioned earlier

that likely you and I will not be taking a trip on a rocket anytime soon well similarly we're not gonna have access to a time machine either so just like we don't have the ability to go high enough to see the creation in its entirety we also don't have the ability to go back in time and see how it was started and how it was put together however if I was gonna prove where I was made and where I was born I would go to the written record I'd go to my birth certificate and you

see we've been groomed and programmed to think that videos and images are superior to the written word however if something were to happen to all of our electronics there would actually be very little of us documentation wise that would survive the next age that's the importance of the written account so what does the written account the book that I deem is ultimate truth say about creation well I'm gonna start with what it doesn't say because there's two verses that people inevitably and immediately start with and regrettably never research past its isaiah 40:22 or isaiah says

that he sits upon he talks about the circle of the earth which and people say well you know he's talking about talking about a sphere well I agree he says it's a circle the earth but something can be a circle and flat just like a pizza the thing is and isaiah 2218 he uses the hebrew word football when talking about something being tossed like a ball but when describing the earth he says circle then people inevitably bring up the four corners of the earth and says well how can a circle have four corners well first

of all how can a sphere have four corners but when you divide the circle into quarters like most of these verses reference you actually get four corners like pizza slices have corners just like when John mentions in Revelations seeing the angels standing on the four corners of the earth it makes sense that he could see them all in the same place because they were all standing in one place at the center of the biblical Flat Earth otherwise known as the North Pole the place were all compasses point which potentially sits beneath the emerald rainbow of

the very throne of God the Northern Lights which John saw in Revelation 4:3 the next verse people bring up is job 26:7 where it says he hangs the earth on nothing well earth only means land so yes he doesn't hang the earth on anything it's set on a foundation and on pillars just like it says later in job 38 and those are God's words not Jobe and John 1 we see that he created all things in Romans 1 we know that the invisible things of God including his eternal power can be seen through the things

that were made and because of that we're without excuse and acknowledging him in second Peter 3 we see how some are willingly ignorant like I mentioned earlier the fact that in the beginning the earth was standing out of water and in water we get further clarification in Genesis 1 that where God creates the firmament to separate those very same waters the waters above from the waters below then in Psalm 19 we see that while the heavens declare the glory of God it's that same firmament that shows his handiwork and this creation speaks to us by

day and shows knowledge by night and there is no language where it's voice is not heard and this is also backed up in job 38 when job questions God God replies who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge and then and then God challenges job's lack of knowledge by taking him on a verbal tour of creation starting with where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth so the knowledge of the creation is a noble pursuit most of you has probably heard all those four verses but I invite you someone questions

one just tell them to google Hebrew cosmology there's no reason to even to get in all the verses but in short almost 70 times the Bible talks about the Sun Moon and stars is moving and not once describes the earth is moving in fact it says it is fixed and immovable it says that the earth which only means land is standing on a found a and set on pillars under a dome or firmament with literal water right above our heads someone may say well that's Old Testament stuff Matt okay well then what did Jesus say

in the New Testament which I told you earlier is the most historically reliable collection of books in the history of the world did he believe in our current heliocentric model after all John 1 says that he was there at creation and I think it's pretty clear and saying that he was instrumental in the entire process the answer is no he did not believe in our current heliocentric model take Matthew 24 for example he says immediately I have to trigger the tribulation of those days the Sun shall be darkened the moon shall not give her light

and the stars shall fall from heaven we learn a few things from this statement by Jesus 1 he doesn't believe the Sun is a star because he says that the stars fall but the Sun is only darkened there's a differentiation there the moon does not reflect the light of the Sun the moon goes off its own light that was point 2 sorry 3 he doesn't believe the stars are billions of miles away because there's no large period of time waiting for them to get here number 4 he doesn't believe that the stars are millions of

times the size of the earth because even though they all fall to earth stuff still actually happens after that and again he would know because according to John 1 he was there at creation also my favorite in Luke 12 Jesus says you hypocrites talking to the Pharisees how is it that you can discern the face of the sky and the earth but you cannot discern the time in other words you guys understand how this place works but you can't understand the age in which you live meaning that their cosmology at the time was correct and

what was their cosmology so if we don't believe the lie of evolution or the heliocentric model and we ground our faith firmly in the notion that man was previously more advanced instead of less advanced and give credence to the reliability of the Scriptures it gives a fairly clear picture of what the creation actually is and why wouldn't that be important or excuse me why would that be important because again like I mentioned earlier because we can get to know the invisible things of God through the things that made including his eternal power so now if

that's the case if we can get to know God through the creation of course the forces of evil we're gonna try to dilute that and how do you dilute something well you pour it into something bigger like infinite space and you teach people that they're insignificant that they're merely statistical probabilities of an ever expanding potentially infinite universe creating an artificial system that they can control removing the real God from the equation and setting themselves up to be gods of a clandestine religion that people don't even know they're a part of and how do you do

that well you control their minds and George Orwell's 1984 one of the elites says the main character while explaining how they've created a dual system of cosmology for their purposes of control he says that we control matter because we control the mind reality is in the skull again it's all about perception crow triple7 talks frequently about the fact that you cannot create truth you can only discover it and how nature never lies they have to create their own artificial reality because they cannot rule and control the original the one created by God remember I said

earlier we have all had the same evidence well that evidence is nature it's the creation itself and if you don't have a good versus evil mindset you're not gonna understand that if you don't have a good versus evil mindset you won't see the connection to the fact that the word in the Shaw and Hebrew can mean to lift up like a rocket to space or it can mean to beguile like the serpent beguiled Eve in the garden if you don't have a good versus evil mindset you're not gonna see the snake tongue and the NASA

logo or the fact that the Hebrew word for tongue Lashon can also mean fork of flame if you don't have a good versus evil mindset you're not going to think it's weird that NASA was literally started by Nazis Freemasons and magicians you're not gonna understand a pole in when he said that man will believe anything as long as it's not in the Bible if you don't have a good versus evil mindset you're not going to understand Max Planck who said a scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light

rather it's opponents eventually died and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it and if you don't have a good versus people mindset you're just gonna thank Flat Earth is stupid and that the idea of hiding the real creation is just too big a conspiracy or brush it off it's not affecting your daily life the good versus evil mindset is the perception by which you should pursue and discern truth and filter information it's your light in the darkness and that lack of mindset is what is keeping others asleep so I've talked about perception

I've talked about the role of creation talked about the motive behind it all we've talked about needing a good versus evil mindset but what's keeping folks from waking up and just even considering an alternative cosmology well we all know about algorithms at this point and DeMar will talk a good bit about it and talk before me but I've experienced the suppression in firsthand as I'm sure most of you have it used to be that you could go type in two hundred proofs to YouTube and Eric today's two hundred proofs there it's not a globe would

be the number one video however if you type in two hundred proofs Flat Earth it's not in the top fifteen now now if you type in two hundred peru's it's also not in the top fifteen but it's just it's unbelievable how obvious to us some of that suppression to be and how hard that is to communicate to someone who's not he's not able to see that I was on an app called tick tock getting around forty to eighty thousand views per video then one day my view counts dropped to below a thousand I started the

hashtag called flattered of 101 and had about two hundred and thirty thousand views between nine different videos but when I started searching Flat Earth 101 it would said no views no videos and people started telling me how you could click on the audio for my videos and tik-tok is kind of a music app and you can click on the audio file and you can see who has made videos with that audio file and because I was using some original music wasn't original me but I was taking it from royalty free music you click on my

audio and it would say zero videos correlated that audio pretty frustrating and a bit depressing for someone who's putting a lot of effort into what he deems as truth and what he thinks is good content so but these things have been put in place primarily so that another 2015 doesn't happen when Flat Earth exploded when you could still search and find good content out there the best guy I know about getting around algorithms is david weiss di TR h clap there we go see ya yeah all right Dave only sends videos that are already in

play lists so that he knows what video is gonna follow pretty genius he's been seen air-dropping Flat Earth memes to entire crowds at concerts and he's created the most amazing app out there the Flat Earth Sun Moon and zodiac clock app yeah awesome dave has poured his heart and soul and money into what Page calls his second girlfriend he's literally worked on it every day since he launched it making sure there's videos on there but he's created the greatest tool for spreading truth the truth of creation that I've ever seen you guys need to download

it you need to share it you need to gift it to people you need to get the word out there to the people in your circles it's amazing but again the app the playlist the air drops that's just to get around the algorithms and to spread there are things that were put in place long ago to make sure before the algorithms to make sure that people don't even have the time or the desire to look into things like evolution or the heliocentric model and the biggest one of all is slavery through debt and money excuse

me the Bible says in Proverbs 22 that the rich rule over poor and the borrower is a slave to the lender and would you agree that debt on houses car schools credit cards etc is one of if not the leading cause of our inability to slow down take time read the Bible and consider the nature of our world and evaluate truth I would and is it not the exhaustion caused by that slavery that leads us to want to relax and get caught up in TV shows movies sports and things that we can passively absorb as

opposed to actively pursue this goes for relationships too by the way but I think you will all agree that it's easier to absorb a lie than it is to pursue and discern truth it takes research it takes diligence and above all it takes time time that slaves typically don't have because they're busy working through their debts and I'm not I'm not innocent of this by the way just thrown it out there you've all heard this before but you cannot serve two masters you can be a slave to money debt and the rich or you can

be a slave to truth don't get me wrong money is an awesome servant when you have it working for you but it's a terrible master and it has most of us most of society and distracted we can read The Lord's Prayer Matthew 6 it says please forgive us our trespasses but if you reading the King James actually says please forgive us our debts well why would we need forgiveness for our debts it's because it's getting in the way of our pursuit of truth now I agree that debt and credit or something that this society is

based on and if the Bible describes debt is slavery of course this world is going to make dead in lines of credit something seemingly normal and easy to get and yes the majority of people have debt and ranges from a little to a lot but let's not forget the words of Mark Twain who said as soon as you find yourself on the side of the majority it's time to pause and reflect now this is extreme I know but I only say it to hopefully get you thinking a little bit differently understanding that money and the

sense of dollars doesn't exist in the way that inches don't exist you can't just go grab a few inches right you've got to have something to measure well in that same way you can't just go grab a few dollars the actual paper dollar is only physically worth it's a to burn or wipe something it's just another element of control another way to keep us enslaved a way for us to work for something that they can arbitrarily change the value of overnight so it truly doesn't represent anything my daughter's grandmother came over from Romania to escape

communism she said that because the governments were coming in or scuse me the government was coming in and taking ownership of the farms and and all the assets it created a large underground cash based market people were hoarding cash in their mattresses and the government caught when to this and overnight just decided to change the currency they said they would honor whatever people had in the bank but people who had large amounts of cash went from millionaires to poor overnight the u.s. is currently doing the same thing to set a slower rate we're like frogs

in boiling water so if the value of paper money can be changed or scrapped entirely overnight it truly doesn't represent anything material value material wealth doesn't come in the form of paper it comes in the form of resources and energy you may have $100,000 in the bank but you take that out on all hundreds pretty soon all you're gonna have is a really pretty fire or really dirty napkins that don't work very well we need to be reinvesting our paper money into resources and energy that no one can devalue and that's only material worldly things

right real eternal wealth comes in the form of relationships first and foremost a relationship with your Creator that you can gain insight on through this creation and secondly relationships with all these people that are on the ride with you close relationships with your Creator and others around you can teach you how to be rich as opposed to how to get rich so I invite you to consider this weekend if if this is important enough to you we need to change the way that we view things like debt slavery control and most of all the importance

of truth in our lives we've established that debt leads to slavery but truth can set you free that's what Jesus said and the truth is set me free because it's it's that but it's been that pursuit of truth that has led me to be here with all of you to define my wife and the literal birth of a new human like it's it's changed my life it set me free and because we don't owe anyone anything and because we've built margin into our lives we're not triggered by events on the world stage we don't swallow

things just because a pastor or politician or someone of authority says it we make our up we make up our own mind about things we decide who we associate with we decide how to raise our children and the system of perception is slowly losing a hold on us so invite you to pause and reflect for five minutes this weekend and work backwards from the lifestyle that you want to live or better yet what you want your life to stand for and if the things that you're pursuing personally and professionally and the people that are in

your ear if they're not lining up with that you're going to get rid of them don't be a slave forever and know that not all prisoners live behind bars you are a prisoner if you're stuck carrying what your parents or your loser freaking friends think about you it's a process unraveling your perceptions but a worthwhile one we need to jump in start swimming and not save anything for the way back if the lives we're living are not more exciting than Netflix we might not be picking a big enough fight with the devil or as Roman

says with those who hold back the truth and unrighteousness because when the truth is replaced by silence the silence is a lie the other day I heard a story of an older woman in Cuba she was there spreading the truth as I believed it she hopped on a dump truck which is basically their public transit system and she got groped by a construction worker and when she turned around to confront him she was groped by another one and the situation started to look pretty precarious until she stood up and Pro crank proclaimed her love and

protection from Jesus Christ and then the men stopped and she got us unharmed the director of the mission told this story to an American CEO who was so inspired he wanted to go down there and buy her a car that she wouldn't have to deal with that anymore so the CEO goes down he sits down with her and he and he wants to know what's the one thing that he could give her that would exponentially help her ministry and keep her safe and the lady thought for a second and she said I could really use

a flashlight and the other night I was in a dark room and I grabbed my phone tried to turn on the flashlight but I accidentally hit the calculator and it did me absolutely no good in that moment and it hit me like a ton of bricks that when navigating through a dark realm like this place light and truth will help you find the way far better than math and science because if you can't get past the darkness in the room you'll never be able to figure out how it was put together and even though a

dark room can be scary by simply adding a little bit of light the perception of that room is totally changed even though physically it's the same just like our a shared evidence but the Flat Earth is not lacking in evidence right the evidence is all around us it's in nature it's 100% how the observer perceives that evidence and that perception is so powerful that it can make someone standing still tell you that they're spinning and it can make someone standing straight up tell you that they're upside down and it can even make that person call

someone an idiot for questioning that I believe the shape of the earth is super important obviously I'm here speaking with you about it today but not nearly as important as recognizing that truth is good and that there is and always will be a perception war against it you must have a good versus evil mindset in order to recognize that if you don't you're just gonna get lost in the dark you need light and truth to help you find the way and while on that journey you may find that those three things are actually the same

thing you might even find that they're the same person thank you for your time [Applause]