they occy our name our identity I was still very much uh loyal to the Zionist the ideology those symbols mean something to me that star of David that is on the manora that is in our religion of thousands of years is you say God promised land you said the Torah you don't believe in the to I already warned that Israel would become far more extreme far more closer to an aparted State I came home and I told my husband we have to get out of here Israel is complete Mania we call it in political signs
failed state this is really a collapse of a [Music] state man Rab in Stanford Hill I born in Jerusalem and we gone out from there 1970 my grandmother has died in aitz my father was a big leader of the in Jerusalem he himself was Holocaust Survivor I live in thei Orthodox Jewish Community people looks like me have a bear this type of Jews cic Jews all their or Jews money names people give for these Jews they have businesses the prayers the education for children that's all I was born uh uh in in 1954 uh that
is a few years after the establishment of the state of Reser my parents came from Germany in the N early 1930s and lost most members of their family in in the Holocaust I grew up uh in the city that I was born in haa H and probably had a conventional uh Israeli Jewish uh upbringing and experience more or less until I finished my military service uh in 1974 I was uh I participated in the 1973 war on the Golan Heights I was still very much uh loyal to the Zionist ideology and didn't question any fundamental
way my family were very Zionist but when you grow up in that you don't actually know that they're zionists they were very loyal to the state of Israel it took me a very very long time to be begin to wake up to what Zionism is and shape my opinion about it I come from a quite religious home most of my uh grandparents or my mother's side family perished in the Holocaust when I was younger go through a Jewish Day School to go to um Zionist youth movements and for Israel to be a central piece of
one's identity to go to Israel camps there is an Israel that exists in the mind of Jews who live on the outside that is increasingly distant from the Israel that exists in reality when you go and live there you're confronted with that reality and so the act of living there is the act of saying okay what is going on there when my father used to leave there he was demonstrating very much against the state they didn't sa in the Army and he was beaten very much but design his police he go in prison maybe he
falls more in prison at home I cannot say much more but what they're doing for the Jewish people is terrible the true isms of Zionism before I reached uh the university and started my postgraduate studies in the late 1970s conventional uh uh education that I was receiving uh had a very clear narrative historical Narrative of what happened in Palestine we were taught that as Palestine was an an empty land a land without people waiting for the people the Jewish people who were without land we were persuaded that the Jews were actually returning to an ancient
Homeland that were taken from them during the Roman times and a second feature which is very important is that uh uh the Arab world around us is hostile because of its religion because of its political culture and because it is anti-Semitic and therefore uh we are doomed to defend ourselves and fight for the survival of the state because uh they hate us or they are against us because we are Jews when you graduate from the Israeli U education system you you really believe that you live in a democracy uh that is loyal to Universal Val
of morality and Humanity you're effectively traumatized by the state by the education system and when you're brought up there from very young age you're exposed to images of the Holocaust if you were living there this would be you so just remember the state of Israel is what keeps you safe in Israel you have to live in fear the entire population is kept in a state of fear all the time Zionism is a state ideology which means it uh encompasses every Walk of Life uh when you go to the kindergarten you already are exposed to the
Zionist narrative and ideology as a toddler and then you will be exposed to uh uh to it in elementary school high school uh in the Army according to that nationality law between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean that is all over historical Palestine only one nation can exist the Jewish Nation no other nation and not only that the this law says that in order to assert the uh Jewish identity of the land of Israel ER Israel uh you need to continue to colonize to settle uh and to reject anyone who is not a Jew who
does not accept that all of historical Palestine is a Jewish state that is the essence of Zionism when I was growing up and now the Palestinians are compared to Nazis they're not seen as human beings at all the vast majority of Israeli Jews are supporting the Zionist project Israel is complete Mania Zionist were only invented 200 years ago it's not a simple thing to do when you find out that your group is doing really bad things and you realize that it's really actually very very unwell immoral it's killing people um it's basically a genocide idal
I at some point realized that I had to choose between loyalty to my group and my own values I came home and I told my husband we have to get out of here I didn't want to live in fear I renounced my Israeli citizenship in 2001 in fact I feel liberated uh having left not just leaving the state itself and renouncing citizenship of Israel but mentally leaving the mindset of ISM has been incredibly liberating it was considered a big big betrayal to want to leave they were horrified when they heard that I was leaving and
they said you can't leave you will never have any friends you know they'll come after you these are the kind of messages that I got and I'm I'm not kidding Israel was never ready to accept the Palestinians as they are Israel never acknowledged the crimes of the nakba of the expulsion of Palestinians and there is an willingness within Zionism to meaningfully challenge that extremism there is an attempt especially on the outside to portray Zionism as something that should be Beyond questioning even something so obvious and benevolent the Jewish people have a right to self-determination how
could one in any way challenge this the question of why are you conducting war crimes against the Palestinian civilian population within a broader context of what is legally a regime of apartheid as designated by not only human rights groups inside Israel not only international human rights groups but also now the international court of justice would you rather have that conversation or why are you singling me out because I a Jewish State you must be anti-semitic you're just like the Nazis I already warned in 1999 that Israel would become far more extreme far more closer to
an aparte state that it would uh be far more ruthless towards the Palestinian in its methods and uh uh uh would uh uh constitute a danger to the stability of the region as a whole but I did not uh predict it to be so cruel Allah if you live in Israel and you uh declare yourself openly to be an anti-zionist if you are a professor in history in a university and you teach your students that Zionism is colonialism or the what Israel did in 1948 is ethnic cleansing you uh Clash directly with the narrative the
historical narrative and the ideology that your government wants you to teach they see you as as a traitor don't accept your criticism and you get death threats and you are being ostracized boycotted and so on like so many of my anti-zionist Jewish friends I was labeled too as a self-hating Jew they occupy our name our identity in they speaking in our name in all this m act what they're doing they're doing in my name in our name everybody knows the history no knows that Jews have a golden life in all Muslim countries for centuries how
can people be so blind just open the eyes are going many times to demonstrations and the police stops me before coming where you going are going there to demonstration what they're going to kill you I thought don't worry just look I show you a miracle I go in between hundreds of thousands of Muslims nobody will touch me you don't have to protect me just look I coming every time among Muslims I never see any antisemitism at all just look from from the Jewish point of view where is the most danger place for Jew to live
today you go the whole world if come to one point state of Israel the question of what will happen in this land and whether not a theory of Zionism that I was brought up with but the practice of the state of Israel and the state ideology is called Zionism and the reality there is a reality that is not enabling of an existence which is going to work of course not for Palestinians but also for Jews and I feel now that this is coming apart and therefore you see that some of the most vifer determined angry
voices in this period have been the voices of Jewish people saying not in my name those symbols mean something to me that star of David that is on the manora that is in our our our religion of thousands of years the founder of Zionist his name was Ted Herzel from Vienna Austria he don't believe in God he don't believe in nothing the Judaism is completely a religious movement have nothing to do with any nationality with any materialistic things the Zionist often weaving the flag of the promised land the promised land you say God promised land
you said the Torah you don't believe in the Torah you don't believe in Gods you don't eat koser how can he be such a strong hypocrite to take out of the Torah something what is for his benefit in ignoring all the other parts it's written at Ten Commandments don't kill don't steal design is ignoring everything about the Jewish belief in the Jewish belief the state of Israel will come to an 100% Israel survive as it is in the long run uh in in a situation where it has to fight all the time in a situation
where its own Society is going through a kind of a civil war between the secular Jews and the religious Jews even with the huge American uh financial aid when isra's International image has been eroded like never before and when the Jews of the world are not going to support it anymore we call it in political science failed States or disintegrating States and this is really a collapse of a state [Music]
