Those who are wondering what these are this refers to our september every year i go to the major sites in poland what used to be german not germany east pressure we take a group of about 20 or 30 citizens from the united states mostly about half from america and the restaurant england france australia everywhere and we visit these historic sites which Are still there buried in the forest if you know where to look but this may well be the last time i come to united states the simple reason that when i landed in atlanta on
january 31st i was detained for four hours by homeland security on a pretext and then my passport was received and the visa the 10-year visa was cancelled um So they can stop me coming anytime they want the dropper hat i have previously a 10-year visa which made it much more difficult to start me coming in and i was very careful to adhere strictly to the visa terms and conditions but uh the first the first bench when i came in on january 31st the the guy there said he knew everything he said yeah you're speaking in
orlando Clearwater portland and atlanta and everywhere and you're speaking about this man gerd gg i say goggles yes he said uh how much are you earning for this and who's paying you and i said nobody i'm not allowed to earn money i can't on the university of denver when i stayed there sometimes they wanted to pay me a few and i said i can't accept fee i can actually accept expenses but i can't do that to feed So they gave up and then i was put back in the cell and held for another hour and
then they now tried another attack they said last time you were here you overstayed your visa i said no i didn't very careful not to they said yes you did i said when you talking about they said well you landed on january 31st last year and you left on july 31st and you're only allowed to stay six months I said january 31st to july 31st is six months no it's six months and one day by state department reckoning is it not by my calculation not if you rent a car and not only say in a
hotel 31st 31st is exactly a month and you're paying the same whether it's a long month or 31st or short months like February but no they said it one day overstayed and for that your visa is going to be cancelled which they then immediately did and finally 800 cash and out of the generosity of their hearts here they gave me a temporary visa they said as you've entered it illegally i said no i didn't i entered illegally you have made it illegal by canceling the visa since i entered so when i Entered that visa with
people anyway you can see which way which way they're going next time they've now accounts for the visa and next time i applied for a visa it will be found that i've violated previous visa oversight and for that there's a 10-year automatic ban from returning the united states and i think that what may what may happen So forget about the first amendment it's not because i polish my shoes the wrong color or because having got 10 speeding tickets that i have not paid or anything it's because certain people contact the state parliament said stop him
coming the mistake i did make of course was to announce my coming a year a month ahead with all the cities i was going to be visiting so they knew exactly where i was going and the enemy knew the enemy Then put pressure on whoever's put pressure on they're quite disconcerting and i won't know what's going to happen until i go back to us embassy in england and apply for another another visa and i found out what the response is these are very hard to get it took me when i came out of prison in
austria it took three years to get a visa because of that how did i travel to canada well how has It been it's banned i've been down from canada since 1992. as witness what happened on october the 15th last year i took a cheap ticket from expedia a one-stop flight one stop flight going back the plane stops from atlanta to london the plane stops in washington dc flying out from london to atlanta the plane stopped In canada in toronto i don't mind because when you do a transit like that you're not actually landing in the
country or going through the transit zone and all was well until we landed in canada the plane landed in toronto and rolled up to the terminal and i've got an onboard flight in one Hour's time from the x from the next gate and as we rolled up to the terminal the loudspeakers of the plane crackled and the message came over the plane speakers saying ladies and gentlemen we've been informed by ground control today unusually passport control will be affected at the exit door of the plane [Music] How often does that happen but of course that
effectively advanced the border of canada right up to the doors of the plan so as i stepped off the plane there were 10 canadian border police waiting for me with a weapons drawn having been told to wait for mr urban because as they told me they said a message you come across the atlantic well i was while the plane was mid-atlantic unless you come across advising canada That i was on the plane so instead of being taken to the next gate and escorted to the on-board flight to atlanta so that canada remains safe i was
held there for three hours and detention put on the next plane back to london overnight so after three brief hours in canada i was back where i started off that morning built My house keeper waiting for me with the car puzzled wondering why it would happen i know why it happened and i don't blame the canadians i blame the people behind canada that's the same as i don't blame the united states i don't even blame obama for what goes wrong in this country with all the wars you're being Dragged into i blame the people behind
the united states government they're the ones who don't and it's unfortunate because at least a lot of people being killed which is a lot more inconvenient than just being held in detention for a few hours and having to buy yet another transatlantic ticket ending up a thousand dollars out of ticket before the tour even begins you don't know this happens because it's not in the newspapers If i am finally banned from the united states then it will be in the newspapers and i in short bloody well it goes in the newspapers under the flimsy pretext
so they've cooked up this one day overstay allegedly i mean whoever heard of it being one day over if you leave on exactly the same day of the month as you as you as you enter on baffled me i was i was very confident that i had anyway there we are And so they've got it all wrong anyway because they should be supporting me and pouring more money into these people because i'm doing half their dirty work for them i'm not a revisionist i'm not an extreme revisionist you'll hear during my talk my views are
probably pretty mainstream but they're better considered i don't just repeat i don't just correct what i've been told There we go now it now comes to change do you have any friends you know i say 7800 on my list not that is it what about the americans they are constantly badgering me to do their broadcasts on their on their web radio stations and that's the last thing i would do if i do that then i can forget about ever coming back the united states Oh yes no but if you do anything off-broadway like that then
you're really asking for trouble uh you're you have then become a really loose cannon and uh that's that's it's i mean it's not illegal but it's on the fringe okay so what i'm going to be talking about Today is sauces more than anything do i have clothes i even saw them i carried this box around in my my box of tricks just so you know those who want to buy anything we take cash checks credit cards and promises to pay yeah normally i've got the heart on the table can you put that on just like
on top load up here okay these documents And as i showed that to you every second we do this tour and the first four days of the tour this year which is i think september the second to the 10th of us first four days we're visiting the four reinhardt sites in poland operation reinhardt which is a very ugly operation indeed it's where all killing took place figured about our shirts where do you meet for those Where do you meet for those tours warsaw warsaw warsaw our guests make their own way to warsaw international airport from
the only time we pay everything and take take care of everything but there's it's the main airport in warsaw it's only a few miles outside the capital you come straight away from the from the airport uh in warsaw which is called the Frederick chopin airport named after the composer it's the principal it's maina international airport in warsaw and then we take you straight to a five-star hotel in the center of warsaw where we which is our base i'm not going to mention the name because i'm on camera we keep it very secret and the hotel
management asked us not to broadcast their name around and The tour starts in that hotel ends in that hotel um with 20 or 30 very happy guests making their way home afterwards on the very second or third day of the last tour last september three of our american guests came out to be separate and said mr irving is far more far more interesting than i ever imagined it was going to be it is fascinating you visit the Reinhardt sites which are belzech treblinka mydonic and sobibor which you only hear marginally about in the history books
because the historians seem the conformist historians you not know much about them but we go there and have a look and you get the feel of the place you stand on the railway siding where The trucks trains are unloaded and then we spend the last three days visiting the spectacular pyramid sized bunker headquarters of hitler and himmler and the german army high command the huge buildings buried in the forest the hitler headquarters is the famous wolf slayer there's pictures of it in this leaflet that's me just near himmler's bunker number 17 that hit hitler's bunker
rather Had the roof 60 feet thick 60 feet solid concrete but of course they they didn't quite understand how bombs work our british ground penetrating bombs would go 30 or 40 feet into the ground and then exploded into the building so that roof wouldn't really protected the people but the bunkers are still there they're cracked they've tried to demolish them the the germans tried to watch them with Hundreds of tons of explosives but things outside reinforced concrete don't break open easily some of them have been kind of thrown across the forest and landed upside down
elsewhere kimberle's bunker is 30 miles away and pogba for some reason his headquarters outside hitler's headquarters connected by a train line little one single track train line which we knew was there you could see it On the maps and you knew that you took the train to hitler but we could search that site as much as we wanted we could see him as bunkers and the other bunkers where they've been and where they still are gigantic things hidden in the forest like aztec pyramids you've got to take the right path or you're going to miss
it and then one of my american friends last september came running across the fields Towards saying he had found the embankment the roadway embankment he got the map the wrong way for they had put them at the wrong way not with not not with north at the top and now he had aligned the map correctly and he found the railway embankment sure enough it's a dead and a tall embankment about 100 feet tall which runs across that field and past the forest into the distance and you can see it as A railway environment the poles
are obviously stolen all the way over the lines everything you get the feeling of history and you can walk inside the bunkers you have to watch your step you always take torches with us so you can see in the different rooms fascinating hitler's bank was occupied from june 1941 when operation barbarossa began Against russia at himmler's bunker simultaneously that's where all the ugly decisions to take which i'll be talking about except that it seems that himmler wasn't really involved in many of the decisions most of the work is being done by people much lower than
him i spent a lot of time looking at the archives of the kgb the soviet secret police they captured Most of the files reinhardt hydrous of the ss sticker software they're in moscow i've got 44 microphones of them that were given me by one of us right winner willis carter who do you know the name willis carter yeah he paid half a million dollars for these microphones not his money it was given to him by a wealthy donor he didn't know what to do With them he couldn't read them so he gave them to me
i've been doing them i've had them all digitized it makes about 300 gigabytes of images and you read all these very low level very high level it's the reports the people doing the dirty work and after time you get this clear image that the reports are just going up about knee high it's not getting right to the top The orders are coming down from about the same level from about knee high and very few of the documents are signed by himmler or even initialed by him as having been read in fact one or two of
the documents say there's no need for this to go above a certain level because we understand that they don't want to be they don't want to be involved involved in this and i don't think hitler was told about either what was going on We'll find pretty clear evidence that hitler was being kept in the dark by himmler but before we get on to the results which is what what i'm going to be telling you those are the results say the people what's it going to be looking at numbers but we need to know really what
my basis for saying these things is first thing is you can't believe a jew you can't believe a pole you can't Believe a romanian or hungarian all these eastern europeans if they talk to you and tell you these stories what they've seen or what they've heard or what they've listened to because you've got to divide it by 10 basically they add the color there every story they tell you to lure it so you can kind of discount a lot of that generals in the witness box at nuremberg and elsewhere you've got to discount a Lot
of that too if i was a german general the weakness boxing nearby giving evidence my primary concern would be to make sure that knees didn't end up on my neck but went securely around somebody else's neck so a lot of the time you're going to disregard what is said in the witness box in europe by generals or other high ranking officers putting the blame on someone Else shifting the blame is there any evidence you can rely on well there's two categories of documents i'm going to talk about i'll show you some of them that i
think are the equivalent of pile driving into a swamp driving piles when you're writing history or reading history you're basically wading through a Deepening swamp you're sinking in on top of your ankles then up to your knees and then having help you're up to your thighs and you're in danger being sucked right in by history and it's a swamp there's no firm ground once you've left the shore until you come to these documents which are top stage secret on the german files and to the british files the highest classification is security two groups of papers
in particular in The british office and i'm an expert in the british archives as far as this is concerned two groups of papers are particularly significant those german generals said they're giving evidence a witness box suppose instead of hearing them give evidence in the witness box before their enemy judges suppose you heard them talking to each other in private Well that's what we've got after years of fighting wars in britain we realized that how to get intelligence out of your prisoners out of your captives you haven't learned yet in america in america you see what
you do you beat them up you drag their fingernails out you do everything you accuse the enemy of doing and then you waterboard them and that doesn't work and then you Listen to what they tell you when they're in fear of being drowned and of course any poor person is going to tell you what he thinks you want to hear if he wants the waters up to his neck and uh we don't do that we're rather like the gustavo the gustavo also used very clever psychological methods of getting information out of people chief of the
tsar for deputy chief of The gestapo man the right-hand man to reinhard hydration was vienna best who was a lawyer most of the people i'm going to be talking about today were lawyers german lawyers with legal degrees law degrees doctorates and law firm besties said in a post-war manuscript you said the way to get infinitely the way we found out to get in information out of our prisoners and the guest article wasn't to beat them up that very rarely happened it happens in The hollywood movies it didn't actually happen in real life we took two
prisoners in separate rooms we give them a pad of paper and a pencil and say write down what happened each of them then we compare the two versions and then we say we've got a bit of a problem your version doesn't agree with his version now what actually happened within half a day they found out what actually happened without anybody Getting without a single black eye we did the same we put these we took them to england the prisoners during the war and after the war these generals the ss generals the army generals admirals took
them to england brought them ashore in england and and to demoralize and we also made absolutely sure that they weren't taken through any part of england that had seen any war Damage they brought ashore they were taken through quiet country lanes through undamaged towns until by the time they got to the final mansion where they're going to be held they're seething with rage of the lies they've been told by berlin about the damage that we've been doing for the british empire it turns out there's no damage at all not a single street not a single
street Pub but everything is still intact we've seen it they've driven us through these towns nothing damaged and they brought fire to this beautiful country mansion in southern england buckinghamshire or berkshire and they're treated like gentlemen that have to wear their uniforms there's a few of martial or the colonel general that allowed to keep their weapons allowed to keep their medals and they introduced their old pal fred behind Spigots i've got i've had most extraordinary things happening i'll tell you about it but somewhere we can talk in private so they go somewhere they can talk
in private they sit on a park bench outside under a tree they go inside and sit in their private drawing rooms every ventilator every light bulb has a hidden microphone every tree every bench has it has a hidden microphone and this building was Called the combined services details and segregation center the csdic i got about 700 the crcic reports back in 1960 65 thereabouts i went to see hugh trovaroka one of britain's most illustrious capable historians i say that even now president you've traveled he wrote a book called the last days of hitler he knew
these people he was a great historian but he was also A british intelligence officer he served throughout the war mi6 british secret intelligence so he had a lot of these transcripts of what these prisoners have been saying to each other the so-called csdrc reports which are stamped top secret you know the stamina seeker which is the highest british classification of security because for the simple reason that it is a violation of the geneva convention to Each drop on prisoners of war you're not allowed to you're not allowed to waterboard them either but that hasn't stopped
the americans well we listened in on these prisons of war although it was illegal and in the other half of the mansion there are secret rooms with all the listening posts and the special recording machines recording the conversations and teams of germans and british recording Writing down everything these people have said every whispered word was heard and translated magnificently every slang word used by the infantryman that was understood by the immigrant germans who were working for us they wrote all these wonderful reports and because they didn't think or probably forgot that they were being listened
into they've probably been trained not to accept they've almost certainly been told that british will Will listen to what you're saying so watch what you say after time they couldn't resist talking to each other the good old times about what they had done what they had seen things that the british must never find out about april 1945 we hear general walter bruns talking an army corps of engineers just a regular german Army a general back in november 1941 he was a colonel and some pioneer unit based safely in riga in the rear areas in the
riga capital of latvia way far north he's talking with fellow prisoners about what he's seen in river he says one morning he says i remember clearly it was the last sunday in november 1941. that's never with the circus i know the Date but he said i remember clearly one morning none of my jews turned up for work after time got tired of waiting for them i phoned the local ss guy who was in charge of that detachment and asked what had happened to my jews while they weren't there turning up for work For me these
tame jews and the ss guy and he says to his fellow prisoners young guy he was in his twenties altmeyer was his name yes that's guy i never forget his name outman he said that that's the way the transcripts absolutely record every word that was said he said he said oh you want to know what's happened to your jews do you he said i'll tell you what Go five miles down the road towards davinsk do the work and you'll see what's happening to your jews that's how good these conversations are these top secret reports it's
an eyewitness he's not trying to save his own neck he just can't he can't keep his secret any longer what he's seen he says so i took a few of my handful of my offices we got a truck and we drove Down the road five miles and there on the left-hand side of the road in the forest a little place called rumbler r-u-m-b-u-l-a there's a clearing and jews have been grown up sir and very large number be made to undress all their possessions will be put in different cases then they're made to climb down at
the pits three trenches have been dug out about Two or three trenches about 25 yards long and they lie down their heads towards the middle like sardines and a tin so that saves space so very interestingly he says that sardine fashion because that was actually the phrase used by ss general yacon when he devised this method of packing victims into a trench giving the lie with their heads towards the middle shoulders to get shoulder to Shoulder and then 10 or 12 regular troops german or latvian or shooting them with one shot in the back of
the neck very interesting is because this kind of description gives us a basis that we can do calculations on because this if you look in wikipedia rumble r-u-n-b-u-l-a i find this is the biggest massacre of the war yes you're going to write it down Rumbola you'll actually see it on google earth maps you'll see that it's now little little monument there because there's three pits still there and uh wikipedia says this was the biggest in a single massive world of war where 28 000 jews were killed the biggest single episode of that part of the
war well that number is huge gross exaggeration And we can do the math we'll come back and tell you what i mean by that and how we can do the mask what happened that day november the 30th where we know for example that that day ss general jekyll who was in charge of the ss in regard the chief of police who is kimberly's viceroy he decided that they were just going to empty out the ghetto that he'd built there with all the jews from the city putting that into that one ghetto behind Barb one it
was he was tired of feeding and housing them he said i'm going to empty out together they're all going to be sent down the road liquidated well we know there were 4 000 jews 4 500 youths in the ghetto of whom about 300 managed to escape the events of that day so you've got a number a different number how would you say how many years how many didn't go about 300 or managed somehow to escape for or Not they passed out at work or something like that when they came back they found the whole buildings
were empty but that wasn't all this was about two months into the the operation that hitler himself had ordered the expulsion of the jews from germany jews being loaded onto trains city by city beetlefeld bremen Berlin and shipped off to the east anywhere to the east big cities auriga uh mint all the big cities i've got photographs of that in fact the photographs are rather touching let's pass them around photographs are rather touching it shows the jews boarding the trends actually at that time in december 1941 uh the operation's been running Running already for i
always have to find these things this is the other thing i'm going to be talking about volumes upon volumes of decoded ss messages which i've read all of them about a million of them everyone this is the most crucial document i'm going to be reading the most crucial decode put it on one side so we decoded the messages And they were typed up on on flimsy paper bound into those volumes one or two thousand pages per volume 43 volumes just of the ss and police messages that we decoded from 1935 to 1939-1945 well i mentioned
jews being picked up and boarded on trends regular passenger trains this is the The regular what we call slam door passenger trains you can have their own paths around um that's in that's in b level the town in the hanover in germany and they're being you see that i mean have a look at the photographs study it and you see they look happy they're wealthy wealthy jews they're wearing their finest clothes their sunday best Yeah and they're being leaning out the window like school children they're on an outing and they've got the only thing that
marks it out is being something different is they're carrying bedding rolls rolls of bidding and and things that i mean they're not carrying kind of retony bags but they've got all their bags with them because they've been told to take all their finer and all their valuables with them Because they're going to a new life against and and it's the irony thing is of course that as you see that photograph here's the same photograph again the woman there the woman that was the elegant the elegant he was impossible the woman with the elegant millinery the
elegant hat and the fine clothes and leaning out of the window behind her Is uh probably a former jewish lawyer wearing a trilby hat and his best suit because they've been told to get ready for the new life they're going to a new life and take everything you want with you because they're not coming back and within a day or two they're going to be dead but they don't know that in fact one message we decoded november the 15th 1941 It's from the gestapo the secret state police in in germany in bremen northwest germany which
used to be an american enclave after the war in fact a port um right okay one of the one of the decodes we have is november 15th november 16th 1941 from the gestapo chiefs the police chief In bremen to berlin he says report today i report here with operation reinhardt um as to uh three hours ago today no two days ago we we dispatched one train train number do five six do 56 we dispatched this train to minsk with 937 jews aboard uh and together with 12 regular german police uh under the command of police
sergeant cern so two lists of names Look at the faces of the jews that are united who are awake the same one in beta fell happy smiling they're like school children get on an outing to a theme park these photographs are touching because i mean for holocaust photographs you've seen photographs of pits and mysterious propaganda photographs which are possibly true or possibly posed so you don't know what but this is quite General this is from the german government archives they began documenting this historic movement of the jews which hitler had already expelled to the east
it became operation reinhardt here you're asking good questions but this telegram from the one we decoded from bremen sent to riga the head to the police chief in riga intercepted by the british The telegram says i report here with that we sent train number do 56 with 937 jews aboard uh 12 for regular police escorting them police sergeant cern so in command of the unit on board the train also two lists of names all the jews concerned this is probably provided by the local jewish community because they collaborated To the hilt with the gustavo and
this because eichmann himself said we couldn't have done it without the help of the local jewish community it would have been chaotic and on board the train are so many tons of flowers so many tons of cereals so many gallons of milk so many thousands of ice marks in in currency there are bonds All the food stuff they will need and all the appliances they will be needing one does not get in german which can only mean appliances the cobras are being sent with their last the tailors are getting their sewing machines everyone is able
to take the equipment they'll be needing in the new life where they're going and the local gospel the fascinating thing is the gestapo chief in bremen Reports says to rigo saying we put it all on board the train for you they've got enough food and you can do the math divide 937 into 70 tons of cereals and and the rest of it they've got enough food that'll last them for three or four weeks the first three or four weeks after they arrive before they have time to start looking after themselves and the question i asked
myself is did dick starpo and bremen then probably not Know what was happening at the other end because we know what was happening at the other end although it only gradually became plain what was happening that was mid-november every city in germany the postcards printed postcards were being glued to the jews ordering the report to collecting the assembly points taking all their valuables then loaded onto trains and ships off to the east i've got several of those postcards i Know how it happened and a lot of the jews were quite innocent they were i mean
innocent as to what was likely to happen to them some of them had bad forebodings about it they know what the nazis are capable of a train load four train loads left berlin by november the 24th november 26 1941 four trailers the jews each of them less than a thousand which tells us that It's this kind of regular passenger train the shin is this kind of trains carried 5000 in open trucks or sealed trucks that's a bit of a clue that this was the early stages and they were being sent to third class non-smoker compartments
as you can see on the door there third class trains and they're not particularly apprehensive they're getting getting the hell out of germany and the war and everything they're going Somewhere safe somewhere different back back east where most most of them came from or their families being repackaged a train left berlin on november 24th november 26 1941 and by the night of november 29th to circus they had reached riga which is where the ghetto was being emptied the following day they were held overnight in the sidings On that train it must be bitterly cold we
know how bitterly cold it was in riga that night the following morning they are the first 1 000 jews to be taken down the road to that forest in rumbala and dealt with so the total number is probably about 5 000. you can do the math let me explain what i mean by doing the math it's the kind of thing that we adults always do with all our lives You know roughly how much gas you're going to put in the gas tank and now it's going to cost no yes i've got about enough to cover
that or you go to a restaurant with a couple of pals and david irving being a slim friendly has something cheap costing 3.50 he has a girlfriend there he impresses so she gets a 17 steak or something and another hanger on he's going to spoil the whole evening for them and he gets something costing about 10 bucks if the weighted then bills he bills you 150 dollars you know something's gone wrong right he's hoping you're not going to check same with the jews hope he don't do the math that's what i mean by doing the
math you don't get out a smartphone and go dot dot dot and how many signs and cosines and logarithms it is you just do the math roughly in the back of your head That's what i also learned to do so they don't get cheated but no one does it with the holocaust and i plead with you do it with a holocaust because that 28 000 figure for riga is completely impossible and we can comment it from three or four different directions doing the mass and each time he comes up with a number of four or
five thousand and and nothing supports the twenty Eight thousand remember what bruins said to his fellow prisoner in captivity he said when i got down there he said there were two or three trenches have been dug out about 25 yards long dot dot dot uh wait a minute there i cross examined professor richard evans in the lipstick trial across his he's an expert witness in the witness box of course examined him about this i said how many bottles do you think those Trenches could have held how would i know he said he's a historian i'd
say okay well richard evans is the historian who didn't know the name of the nazi ambassador in paris otto alberts you didn't know in the name of albridge who's he can you help me albert so you don't expect him to do the math on how many bodies you can get into a pit it's 25 yards long we know that the lang had dead like sardines so it's Probably about 12 feet wide or wider but i mean i said to him how deep would that bit of binge you think tops she said how would i know
i said well once again i had the advantage over you professor evans and once having worked in construction gangs on building sites i don't know how deep you could dig a trench without having to put up wooden shoring to stop the thing from caving in on you see let's say you could have dug that Trench with sloping sides about six feet deep two two yards two meters deep 25 yards long four meters wide how many two how many bodies can you get in a cubic meter how would i know i mean you give up with
this guy he he doesn't have the raw elements for doing the math well the answer is quite simple you can Get about 10 bodies into a cubic meter because a body when a human being weighs say 80 kilograms one kilogram is one liter we know that because the human body has the same specific gravity to use a technical term as water the specific gravity of one that's how the metric system works so it's going to be about Uh 80 kilograms per body you've got a one one cubic meter is a thousand liters that's going to
be about 12 people tops texas probably about six people but they weren't i mean they were they were they were skinny they did yeah i mean you've got to order you you're dealing with orders of magnitude and one thing is quite plain you cannot get 28 000 bodies into those three trenches or Two trenches depending on which numbers you believe you can get five thousand that then it begins to ring true and leave space at the top for backfilling then you are looking at the right thing just one one little simple cross check calculation that
suggests you straight away well 28 000 no 5 000 possibly How else well you can look at another way and say well we know that there were 4 000 jews in the regal gether ghetto and plus one train loaded 937 jews that had the misfortune to arrive that morning that gives you 5 000 again same number and we've got yet another cross check you can't shoot in darkness you can't have your little fire in the squad lined up along the trench in pitch darkness in The winter armed with guns shooting blindly at these people they're
going to do martin martin's marksmanship you've got to have the real daylight and this is winter this is november the 30th which is only three weeks short of the longest night and it's in the one of the northernmost Climbs is up it's it re goes up close to the arc much closer to the arctic circle than key west shall we put it gets dark there very very early in the afternoon it's and it's dark until about nine in the morning you're gonna have usable daylight say from nine o'clock in the morning until about 4 30
in the afternoon after that it's that's it chaps whistle blowing back to the barracks so you know exactly how many minutes You've got of usable gun time you've got 10 men doing the shooting 12 tops you could do 5 000 you couldn't do 28 thousand if you're on 28 000 you'll be doing one every 30 seconds it doesn't work you've got to have these people okay next lie down in the pit now we should square off a bit take less space slide i know it's nasty but do what i'm telling you okay right Take a
fire it all takes time and every every hour they change the shift to the the shooters very interesting that morning yakon obviously realized at the end of that day's operations are halfway through these operations and things were running too slowly because at 11 30 that morning he sends a message to heinrich shimla about four lines long i know what it says it says dear rice fiora Can you get for me 12 of those magnificent finish made submachine guns um the ones with the drum magazines they will be excellent for my men who are carrying out
the special operations zonda i'm not going to argue this zonda accion is quite definitely euphemism for the killing operations the special operations they will be excellent for the men doing that because they won't have to keep changing magazines change Won't have to keep reloading we know what gun he's talking about it's tsuomi the tsuomi well-known finnish manufacturer submachine gun i'm talking to gunner express i know i've checked up on this particular gun and it's the swively k31 had three or four different magazines at her this kind of sticks and you shove him with about 10
or 15 rounds and they had two drum magazines out of 50 a drum that Held 50 50 rounds and a much bigger drum that held 72 runs the gun actually was put on single shot they just fired one shot well aimed into the back of the neck because there's a heavy gun very heavy gun with that it's a big magazine on it and the heavier the gun the easier it is to do target practice because it doesn't jerk it doesn't kick so much So that's an interesting telegram we decoded it if i know he sent
that telegram that morning but it gets much uglier that day very interestingly for history right that berlin trainload of jews has arrived overnight have been held on the sidings and had the misfortune to be sent straight down to the pits they're dead by lunchtime Lunchtime oddly enough hitler's invited him at lunch that day i know that because i got him his diary and i got him this telephone lock again what's the problem they're just eating i think yeah okay um who is our spy would you like just to go ahead and have a quick look
at them Besides them if necessary i just sent for the piece straight away can we talk and and have they ordered a meal okay so himmler is that day having lunch with hitler and i've got his telephone log himmler's telephone lock him with telephone logs in those days just a blank sheet of paper he drew a line down the middle of It and on the top he wrote typed telephone conversations at the right field ss and on the left hand side he wrote the name of the person that he's speaking on the telephone to at
the time and on the right-hand side brief list of the topics of what they just got caesar typical manager doing that kind of thing and this particular day november the third in 1941 himmler writes a sheet which i've got i found it i'm the first Person who made use these of these telephone telephone notes of him because they've written in this awful gothic handwriting telephone conversations last year ss november 39 41 and then he said he writes austin from the train he's taking the train from his his headquarters to hitler's headquarters 30 30 miles across
he's pressure And then he makes a couple of phone calls and then the next conversation which he records a founder bunker no problem okay um no problem at all he's phoning from the bunker at 1 30 p.m he telephones reinhardt hydra chief is a gestapo and he writes in the notes what he's Talking about the first item is um arrested doctor caleos we know dr acharios he's a surgeon in vienna his problem was that he made the mistake of stalking hitler's sister he was a stalker okay women get very upset about stalkers and women get
upset as their nose talkers the women we're going to have to edit that misogynist remarkable Okay it's true it's true yes um just like the jews they get upset about absolutely everything too i mean people send me from all over the world the latest things upset them um and the the next item that he he writes to in fact i think he kayla didn't survive the war i don't know what happened to him the next item he writes is the we've captured the son of molotov The soviet foreign minister which is also not true but
then comes the interesting thing train load of jews from berlin not to be liquidated himmler is telephoning hydrish and he says trained over the jews from berlin not to be liquidated and i published that in my book the first wars there in fact similarly in the book and all my opponents were leapt on that and said there you have the Proof that it was the one given there or he was calling the shots and i said no equally well he might have been saying are you out of your tiny man mind him you're suggesting we
just get rid of the jews the ones that i'm sending to a new life and you're suggesting that we can't housing feed them we just liquidate them when they arrive you're absolutely bonkers these are valuable german jews not enemy jews not latvian jews or Soviet jews these are valuable people send them somewhere else and they're going to carry on doing the works of philanthropy we don't know what was behind in other words that's the job with writing history you can't you don't get all the job dots joined for you have to you're driving piles into
the swamp but there's sometimes quite a gap between the piles there's a fascinating document because Of course we know what had happened to that training jews by the time they're having lunch together that morning this is the train road of jews that arrived overnight and is already dead by the time that emerald and hits were having lunch not afternoon word of the misfortune obviously reaches himmler you possibly know how because general bruins Could witness what was going on in the pits the one who had been told to go down the road and have a look
at the or see what's happening to your jews the conversation continues he says when we saw what was going on we were horrified and one of our met one of us said that someone's got to tell the sure of hitler what's going on here and none of us wanted to do that it's a strange thing now isn't it Because holocaust history has it quite quite plain all of course history may be quite plain adolf hitler was the madman who ordered the killing of six million jews in the gas chambers and auschwitz so what's the point
of telling our fiddler what's going on here well obviously these people who knew that the generals and so on felt that hitler was not in the loop anyway they decided uh the easy way out Of this particular dilemma because they didn't want to go telling hitler was to send for a lieutenant and he was told they told him he said i told one of my lessons to go back down the road and write a report on what he was seeing and come back and give us his written report and he said his report at the
hitler's headquarters interesting little cameo an insight into the german officer core mentality and then then gets even more interesting Because he then continues general bruins in captivity in britain whispering to his fellow generals he says and that evening word came back from headquarters did this kind of mass killing had to stop oh again it doesn't fit in with it with the regular holocaust story this kind of mass killing had to stop what happened well the possibly connection with that possibly not Himmler by the mean by that by that time by mid afternoon presumably has found
out what happened to his trainer jews and boy is he gonna have to answer the hitter for that now and i'm not making this up because that evening he sends two telegrams code messages to general jacob ss general yeah the guy who was in charge in riga and the first one says the operation you Carried out in riga today grossly exceeds the guidelines laid down by myself and irish chiefs of classic heights have dumped any such further excesses will be rigorously punished you ought to report to headquarters immediately now that definitely doesn't fit in with
the holocaust history himmler hearing this and saying i'm going to punish the guy who's done this He grossly exceeds the guidelines laid down by me and himmler and by me and hydrish and it's just possible that this proves that himmler wasn't entirely aware of the guidelines that heydrich had laid down because we got them in the moscow archives hydrous was quite blunt about uh he wanted the killing to get to to continue and grow by leaps and bounds he wanted the women and children taken Out too this was hydration so it's possible that they didn't
realize that hydrogen rather different guidelines to his own the interesting thing for me is the people i think you're you're nra in in the united states you have an nra and one of their slogans is guns don't kill people people kill people do you want to do something about ventilation Are you picking it up i'm picking it up but i think i'll just have to endure it i don't know what uh now you've got a ventilator behind you if you just click that off perhaps that might click the fan off it might uh cause us
to be very hot in here though like i can take it all right let's see is that off button on that fan off it should be uh So these d codes are very interesting indeed and they're on the same in fact on a much higher level of reliability than the overhead conversations i was talking about and infinitely more reliable than some german general waffling in the witness box in europe or to interrogators after the war because the the german generals the ss the high ranking had not the slightest Idea that we were decoding their secret
messages they thought that what they were saying was in absolute secrecy from one man to another and there was no way that anyone could possibly read these code messages the enigma machine they boasted produced so many billions of combinations and permutations that no human hand could possibly decode them but of course we invented the computer which did it all for us much faster and within two or three days of every Message being broadcast our computers had crap we invented everything basically world war the british they're clever people we invented the atom bomb we invented central
metric radar we invented the computer all these things we did and then we handed like idiot serviced americans to use we said we didn't hand over the code breaking machines that's another story led to pearl harbor Because the americans struck back and because we refused to hand over the secrets of our code breaking machines the americans said in that case we will not hand over to you the intercepted japanese messages that were picking up from our listening posts and we then said to the americans in that case we will not hand over to you are
our solutions of these decoded messages um And we withheld the 48 most important messages before pearl harbor and i've given the whole of that story based on the exchange of correspondence for the captain hastings the head of british intelligence in washington and london where he's reporting this standoff between the americans and the british secret services which lasted throughout october and november 1941 until the end of december by which time Was too late we deliberately was held all the most important messages from the americans as a out of spite for those when you're writing history of
course those messages are are enormously valuable i've read all 43 volumes of the decoded ss and police messages and you can understand you're not reading the whole time vitally important messages You're working in a collection like that and the source likes out 99 of what you're reading is chaff it's unimportant people writing to unimportant people about unimportant events trivia a lot of things messages from the eastern front for example saying can you possibly supply for us a new carburetor for a chevrolet uh captured chevrolet we we need it we don't have it in this one
and the stocks messages that kind of Level and uh towards the end of the war other messages being sent out to the ss units on the eastern front saying we told ss corporal miller that in the british terror raid on munich two nights ago his home in number 26 strauss who was leveled to the ground category c damage his wife and four children are dead and when you read all those messages thousands of them then you appreciate part of the solution to the germs For me awful awesome questions how can you persuaded the men to
do what they were doing but one of them one or two of them actually say privately and in court after the war they said well on the first day was difficult and the second day was easier by you time you've been doing it four or five days it was just a matter of routine you didn't pay the slightest attention what you were doing just bang Bang bang for one hour then you were relieved somebody else doing the job uh the guy came around handing out fresh ammunition and you got your lunch break after an hour
and you didn't pay attention it didn't it wasn't human it wasn't killing anymore but just for the first couple of days it was difficult but harvey shorter he said he issued telegrams which we decoded then the units carrying out special operations make sure they have Full alcohol provision in the evenings uh they have to make sure that they have social evenings together in the evenings to help put it behind them to get it out of their minds by showing movers and dancing and this kind of thing so they can forget what they've had to do
during the daytime now as a daylight there's one one such orders empire he was a human man he recognized that you couldn't have a unit doing this kind of thing all day long week after week last Week without affecting their morale and so all that was what i provided for these are the intercepted messages and i can see some of you saying well what kind of numbers are we actually looking at overall this is where it becomes unfortunate and very interesting and very important the short answer is the big number that they quote is probably
the right order of magnitude That's that's what scientists say in other words it's not 10 times too big it's not 10 times too small it's probably the right ballpark to figure and simple proof of that is this document i said they'll decode the document i was going to read you those decoded messages have you i got those i think this is the sagan this this one it's a her telegram You see the anti-jewish operations went through i think three phases effectively as far as the east was concerned the first phase was a very small phase
the invasion of poland uh the police units had orders to round up anybody who was likely to be troublesome take them to local churchyard and shoot them And it was usually the jews or the communist leaders or polish intellectuals people who were too clever there for them good they were all mixed into one part and led away and executed somewhere rather preferably away from eyesight away from curious onlookers that was one of the rules no cameras no onlookers i never dealt with their total number of we don't know the numbers there we know some individual
Operations a few hundred which brought the hedgers attention and he didn't get very upset about them because this was the kind of thing that happens in war you americans have all been doing it in iraq and afghanistan without the newspapers covering it just get rid of the people who are liable to to form the come up against you a week later in the There's guns in their hands you get rid of them in advance then it's not going to happen to you but after the hetero invaded russia it became much more sinister four army groups
plunged eastwards a b c and d numbered from the north to the south each army group i'm sorry they were numbered from north to south but behind each army group became shall we say a police group A task force einsatzgruppe and they were numbered a b c and d from north to south einsatzgruppe a was based in riga and d ended up based in the crimea and their job was to secure the real areas behind the german armies as their advance so the field marshals come on the arms didn't have to worry about partisan warfare
cropping up in their rear which unfortunately you americans didn't worry about you didn't worry about the insurgency Until it began i knew the insurgency was going to come about it's quite obvious to any experienced observer that saddam was saying was preparing for partisan warfare about a month before the the american attack on iraq the new york times reported saddam hussein has divided the whole iraq up into 12 autonomous regions each with the military commander capable of giving orders for his own union and i Said to my friends he's preparing partisan warfare he's not going to
fight square fair and square against the advancing russian against the advancing americans because he knows he has not the strength to do that he's going to let the americans win and then he's going to rise up from the sand behind their backs and do what stalin did to the germans and the proof of that is my book Hitler's war and you'll find that there's no no coincidence that uh the anti-defamation league wrote to general good pastor come on down to west point and to the comment down to colorado's prince the american air force training units
and to annapolis ordering or pleading that all david irving's books should be taken out of their libraries especially hitler's war And there's no secret i i've seen the letters i've seen the general good passage cringing reply saying of course yes we'll do that immediately oh there's a history there of how a dictator is capable of defeating the most powerful military force on earth namely at that time nazi germany and there's no secret that saddam hussein is number two tariq aziz according to the washington post on April the 28th 2003 when tariq aziz's palace in baghdad
was raided by the american army they found a copy of david over the citrus war on his bedside reading table yes and i've often wondered is that just a standard smear that the washington post drags out every time they want to get at me because the same thing was found in north general noriega's bedroom in baghdad in in panama city And uh so general noriega and and uh the third case too i figured it was but he too was obviously found reading this forbidden book um which basically tells you how you defeat a powerful invading
army you've got to have courage and i'm not saying the partners didn't have courage because they were um Himmler's hearts commanders the germans say a suicide unit basically they had no hope of surviving but in partisans that was what him the job was defeating them not only defeating the partisans as they rose after him stalin's famous speech of july the 6th 1941 calling on the whole soviet population to rise in the rear of the advancing german hordes but himmler also acted preemptively he said we'll round up everybody who might Become a partisan all the jews
rounded up all the bolsheviks the communists and all the local municipal leaders everybody who might form partisan units sometime a month or two from now they were taken into the woods and shot and that was the job of the irons at scotland they had basic jobs the islands group and the is commandos with their rolling mobile units their flying squads The is commando are basically a unit of ten jeeps with sick einstein security service men in the sd uniform and a truck carrying the ammunition and another track another wagon carrying the food for them and
they would roll from city to city and all the people have been rounded up already by the units in in the city and being held in local prison and the pits have been dug out already and i've seen some of the records in the In the moscow archives you're told that you will arrive in certain such a town at 10 o'clock in the morning the following day you will begin operations you will find that three pits have already been divided by local local labor all ready for you and your unit will work then carry out
the work operations uh throughout the following day uh at one hour intervals They will leave ten by ten by ten by ten one man will set aside to hand out the ammunition and he's also spelled out in typical army orders that's the job there's a police operation which i suppose in wartime is legal because you know that if you fight in plain clothes with a gun in your hand then you're what's called a partisan or frank hero and you're allowed to be executed straight away Then later on him has to explain to his ss generals
on october the 6th 1943 in a speech he said a lot of you don't understand why we didn't just kill the jewish man we also eventually started killing jewish women and children too he says obviously i have to do that stands for reason because otherwise they're going to come back to generations time and take revenge on us So we have to do the job with jobs to be done it has to be done properly this audience of silent ss scorpion fury in poznan and i'll be coming back to that a minute about that speech he
made that we know he made it we've got the actual wire recordings we've been talking we've got he texted him speaking so what happened in phase two of what i what i call the police operations was pretty ugly And probably accounted for about a million people in those pits behind the advancing german armies with the full consent and agreement and approval of the german military commanders the army group commanders because it kept their their backs looked after their backs and uh so they they approved it war is ugly we killed an awful lot of women
and Children in the war too but then we come to phase three which is more pragmatic and more political and ideological that's when himmler began rounding up all the jews in poland city by city by city warsaw rublin and the rest and sending to the killing centers the operation reinhard this was operation reinhardt and eventually not just the polish jews but also from other Areas where the large jewish concentrations amsterdam holland france some we just sent these killing centers too and they went on and on and on began in the spring of 1942 and they
were sent to these four camps uh trebline lublin or my genetic that's the suburb of lublin soviet born and belzerch some large some small All equally lethal it began in the spring of 1942 and ended as the man in charge of operation reinhardt proudly reported to himmler in a letter at the beginning of october 1942 he said i formally announced the completion of operation reinhardt mission completed rather like you are george w bush except of course neither was completed because then germany invaded poland warsaw uh hungary and found that hungary had a Half a million
jews they had to start all over again so does hitler know about life good question we're going to come to that good point we've got proof of what he knew and what he didn't know and who was responsible and what he knew and when he knew it which is all the modern phraseology we can put numbers on operation reinhardt that is what really staggers me Not just numbers have been told us by all the jewish wise guys but numbers have been extracted from the code breaking disco breaking code breaking unfortunately once again is not water
wall you're picking up distant messages over 2 000 miles broadcast by military guys who are using unfamiliar equipment on wartime primitive equipment and being picked up By similar equipment in britain by teenagers or 20 year old girls working with the radio monitoring posts and they miss an awful lot well radio station breaks in and breaks out the message one advantage is the messages were never sent in hole in one piece because one of the rules of code breaking is you don't have long messages long message is very easy to or they're easier to break the
code of you've got Enough material to work on center in the same key so you're not allowed to send more than 150 characters per message which while i'm tweeting then you can't i've told you can't do more than 150 characters in a tweet but same with the code breaking so sometimes you would get just the first two lines of a message the rest was lost in static or you'd get the first pert the first One uh tweet and then a gap you'd miss the second one and then you pick up the third message first one
here is quite interesting top stage secret gamerai the highest german security classification in the war means top race secret and we know that everything connected with what is now called the holocaust which is a word i don't use Was stamped top stage secret sometimes all you've got is the word top stage secret and the whole page you believe that has been chopped out in some of goebbels's papers because it was top stage secret but the line above it had been stamped off state secret or you have the initial grs in this in the registration number
which is the clue that this was top stage secret because it was really very important and Here this first one that we pick up is top seed sea question i hope that this page was a fake i hoped it was but let me say straight away it isn't i'm 100 certain it's authentic the reason i thought the reason i thought the reason i thought it might be fake was that it's got about six or seven internal discrepancies the germans are very nitpicking about the way they send signals they had to Follow a precise pattern a
precise order with uh no no variations there was a civil service procedure for sending wireless messages it had to have a registration number it had to say it's clearly who was being sent by who being sent to what the security was um they had to have a log number all these things and the time and the date on it and reference number and some of those are missing on this The first one in fact is very significant it's a top seed secret uh to the right rights help dumped heights help them that means homeland security
agency that's curious system what a coincidence sometimes one death the guy who dreamed up the homeland security agency wasn't a bit of a mischief maker i thought i'm going to use exactly the same title that heydrich had for his agency and see who spots that well we Spotted it to be handed to present to the right guys how trump to be handed to ss colonel eichmann oh adolf eichmann the big name the guy who was kidnapped by the israelis and and and executed hanged in 1963. i got all his papers there or mostly papers from
argentina at the end of a Meeting like this somebody came out with a big brown paper package he said we think these are in your in the right hands when we give them to you um they are very interested in his memoirs but you don't expect to find that in fact in all these 43 volumes i didn't find a single other reference to icon of all people that's when the first first wonder my trained Brain then began to think that's a bit curious but what a coincidence the big name and as i told you in
the archives you're reading about unimportant people writing to unimportant people about unimportant things here's a two-line message in which you already have got top stage secret and out of iceman all in just two lines that's the first thing they said wait a minute hello akhtong okay but it's genuine i'm actually for Time i wrote the archives in britain i have a good good relations with them same with the holocaust museum archives in good terms of them and the one in britain i said wouldn't be asking too much if i asked you to consider carrying out
forensic tests on this document on the paper the ink the binding the glue the typewriter just as he was genuine or not because it just occurs to me For example it's page two of a five page series of intersected messages and yet it's been bound out of sequence in the in the bound volumes is page two and then page one three four and five as though somebody kind of slipped it in while no one's looking um then but then we come to the main telegram how is it the second one underneath it we got it's
paragraph thirteen a paragraph fifteen And in this series of interceptor telegrams and the 43 volumes i didn't find this i'm not taking the credit of finding this the credit goes to a british unofficial historian or what the germans nearly called a hobby historian okay i'm a hobby historian and hobby historian steve tyres found this where all the performances thrown he missed it um Here's when i found it and he also found the second one referring to this one with exactly the same data in it which proves that this one therefore is genuine because the other
one was somewhere totally different in the archives so it's not a post-war faith i'm sorry to say and i always said if this document is genuine it's a terrible black eye for the extreme revisionists who said that nothing at All happened to the jews if on the other hand it's fake as a terrible black eye for the jews who had to resort to faking documents to make their case well the honor the short answer is is genuine it's a black eye for us to a certain extent now i tell people like this please listen to
this because it will stop you from shooting on us off And over overreaching there's a lot in the holocaust stories it is fake a lot of the numbers are fake like when i told you about riga so you do the math but a lot of the ugly part of the story is true first here's the telegram top stage secret address to the commander security police to be handed to ss colonel heim in krakow second city in poland subject 14-day report on operation reinhardt Whoa this is horse's mouth speaking directly to us it's not reinhardt wrongly
but that may just be the british uh typists who got the type they supposedly just with a t if he was named after reinhard heydrich then it would be spelled just with a d but operation reinhardt in fact was filled with a dt at the end because he was named after another man was named after fritz reinhart who was the deputy minister of finance in Germany because the whole operation reinhardt began originally or its core was actually a plundering operation the jews who were being sent east to a new life were valuable not for the
brains they had or the people they were or symphonies they were going to compose or the junk art they were going to paint or whatever they were available for the gold teeth And their jewelry and to find fur coats they was ready to bring with them i'm sorry to say that it was a financial operation and every now and then the rope went to hammer off how many gold how many kilograms of gold had been harvested how many wonderful fountain pens how many gold watches how many jewels all the rest of it and the numbers
for 1942 and 1943 are approximately the same indicating the Same number of people were processed and i'm using the word because in this intercepted telegram he gives the numbers with people but he doesn't tell us what he's talking about and that's way maybe why the british analyst missed the significance of this 10 line tele intercept that he's talking here about jews who are being processed In the four camps he says here the figures for the last 14 days of 1942 last 14 days and he gives the figures for t s l and b treblinka civil
war lublin and those edge that's really reasonable to assume that because that was the four cancel operation reinhardt and having given the the two wee figures he then gives that overall figure so far up to the last year 1942 and i'll give you those because now They're all 24 733 b that was 434 508. 8 s that's a reward 101 370. t 71 355. in fact that's a mistake the operator has either missed out one digit at the end or or that's not been heard by the British monitors the actual figure to make the total
correction 713 that's not a five missing at the end actual total but t troubling 555 and then he then he says all together the total is for this period 1 million 274 166. very interesting very significant figure yes now that you said that's with two weeks no no i said that he also gives The individual figures for the last two weeks but then he gives the overall figures since operation reinhardt began until december 31st 1942 which is 11 days before this telegram he sent this telegram the person who sent the telegram was a man called
colonel ss colonel hermann huffler and he was the guy who actually headed the operation reinhardt desk in the office of a much more sinister Murderous figure called uh either i've all heard of iceland but you never heard of adidas neck he was the guy the mastermind behind operation reinhardt we've got a lot of intercepted messages from or about him decoded by the british one in which he says he sends a message to berlin rather like the other guy saying can i have twelve of those magnificent finished submachine guns the washington message saying i need to
have Four bucket excavators what did he need an excavator for a drag line excavator well just possibly he needed it for digging out the trench anti-tank trenches just possibly there's other possible explanation of what he needed the pits for but we i mean it's again of how maddening decoding single messages is he doesn't say i need these excavators Because he just says five blunts i need the escalators and we intercepted a message from from we inserted two vital messages in october 1943 one of them on october the 7th 1943 which i found and it left
out of the page of that 43 volumes to me because it had the word sauvignon one of the four camps and the message says Um seven hundred jews have broken out of the concentration camp of soviet war and are to be rounded up immediately without fail and brought back it is believes that they're trying to flee across the borders in across the buga river which is five miles away into uh into the ukraine um and they've got to be brought back at all costs Maddening again it doesn't tell us what was going on in the
cabin civil war however it does confirm there was a campus that we watched now if you go there and those of you who come on this tour you'll see it just a bald patch and a forest the little museum house and all they actually found there was one bench tin cup and about her foot long barbed wire buried in the sand because hitler ordered every vestige of that camp Removed and swept away when the whole thing was over so that nobody would ever find anything and if it wasn't for that intercepted telegram we wouldn't even
know the subway board existed there's a photograph of me standing outside the old rusting train station signed a silver ward which was there when i first went there five years ago last year when there's a brand new european union Conform kind of autobahn kind of soviet world they're completely destroyed but there's other things there if you go and look because the little ramshackle railway platform especially built for that for these uh trains that were shunted into the platform and unloaded that is there about a hundred yards and the 100 200 yards that back down the
tracks you can see the little green painted house villa which is where the Comment down french thing was tangled is that still there an airy charter there in the garden um so this is this is a crucial document except of course it doesn't tell us what the number figures refer to or what actually the ts l and b are we we can surmise 900 certainty 98 certainty that this was those four sites with the rank outside Because it says this is operation reinhardt stop state secret again the same high-class classification but we've got a much
better source which confirms that this is the jews he's talking about which is why the british didn't spot this when they were analyzing these documents to them it was just interesting they were puzzled about what is this operation reinhardt is going to be some big offensive somewhere or like Operation the heinrich and the operation hamburg and the other anti-partisan operations that's what they're obviously thinking and then they get these odd numbers being thrown into it so before um so we were zero in the last two weeks while it's hard and that kind of thing this
is 11th of january 1943 that that signal was broadcast and we decoded it in the next week and didn't make head or tail of it so i Went into bound volumes but simultaneously heinrich himmler has contacted his chief statistician which is why these figures are being sent for himmler has a chief inspector statistics called dr richard corheir who is a trained university statistician i don't know if you know any statisticians are strange people other like accountants i always know at this point if there's An accountant who's present obviously okay an accountant is completely uninterested in
human life somebody said an accounting to somebody who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing no you're looking great i warned you that if people interrupt my pain and thought we get the spittoon joke and that's really disgusting we're going to have a discussion period Afterwards uh god god willing um you know himmler contacted chief statistician richard i knew and he said dr i want you to draw up a 10-year report because we've been in power now for nearly 10 years in january 30th 993 it is 10 years i want to drop
a 10-year report on the First 10 years of the final solution the jewish problem as a statistician very interesting courthouse worked on it for two months because statisticians they like numbers when if you fed numbers you feed on them with a statistician you can do things with numbers you can operate on them you can compare them you can have sliding scales compare one year's numbers with the next year's numbers you can have histograms and pie charts And graphs and you can do wonderful operations with numbers and that's what core did he operate for two months
on this and eichmann wrote in his memoirs the stuff i got in argentina he said this guy called her kept on badgering me for numbers and he kept on driving me nutty kept on coming back and asking for numbers one of the numbers he got obviously was his core hair this is her telegram koher writes In his 17-page report he says when we came to power back in 1933 there were 17 million jews in the world now they're about uh at that time in 1933 they were about 10 million living in europe jews now there's
about four million jews living in europe and then the statistician kicks in he said the reason for this discrepancy is simple lots of emigrated Oh and then the real assassination the pure satisfaction right well like pure mathematics seek that kicks in that kind of little thing on his shoulder says and not only not only have they emigrated but the ones who have emigrated are old uh i'm sorry the ones who immigrated are young and childbearing the ones who who stayed behind in in in europe are old and geriatric and the kind of person you see
on a zimmer frame walking down the streets in miami in the old Days and nowadays too and he doesn't say that by anybody but that's the first point he makes is the beyond childbearing age so that skews the status makes the discrepancy even more glaring and not only that says dr but of those who remained we've subjected 1.274 166 [Music] to special treatment in the camps in occupied poland That's the same seven digits he's talking about jews so we don't no longer wonder what hufflepuff is talking about in the decode cohere says we've subjected 1
million 274 166 jews to special treatment zombie hand long in the camps in the general venomous occupied poland a very ugly sentence indeed when you think about it is subjecting something to some kind of treatment in the camps Seems rather terminal and himless puts out straight away and he writes a reprimand to call her he says dr excellent report very well done i'm supposed to learn as a manager always start off a nasty letter with a word of praise we had a tour of praise excellent report well done old chap one thing though you do
realize this report is designed to be shown to the furore adolf hitler They're going to ask you to write it shorter please about 10 pages oh and that sentence i want you to change the wording slightly to read um 1.274 million 166 has been channeled through the camps in occupied poland further east notice the difference in tone though it's no longer something nasty happening In the camps whatever zonda behind one is which is special treatment um it's um something rather pleasant happening they've been dwarf crystallized literally sluiced through the camps in occupied poland further east
then are having enjoying their new life as the fuhrer has been led to believe and he sends this report to the new Chief of the gestapo who succeeded reinhardt hydration he tells uh carlton bernard carlton the guy's name he says this report will be excellent for camouflage purposes yeah actually right sir i've got the letters it's in the sanford university library excellent for camouflage purposes because it's going to be shown to hitler he mustn't be told and now begin to close in on the Question you asked about how much was hitler told we know the
answer to that which is the answer probably zero i know that from all adult hitler staff ordered secretaries and private sectors and everyone his adjutants everyone who was with him day after day after day orders to stand by him at his elbow throughout every conference like richard schultzer who was the ss hydrogen designed to stand next to Hitler and i asked him on television in the david frost program one evening i said how much was actually discussed about the final solution in your presence and you you have told us that you had to be present
through every conference that hitler had with himmler and anybody else throughout the holocaust period october 1942 right through to the end and answering richard schultz on the Navy for us program not a word was discussed about this in my presence ever it was never discussed in his presence not it gets worse karl wolff ss general carl wolfe who is a rather um creepy character i think there's a general caller very handsome aristocratic blonde he's always hovering in the background of the photographs With himmler ss general karl wolff he described to me and also in various
manuscripts after the war confidential manuscript he said once in the summer of 1944 he went into himmler's room in the bunker at three o'clock in the morning to tell him it was time really to pack up for the night the typical him were working far is the night right through the night And he wanted the chief to watch out and to look after his health and go to bed and he blundered into the room because the door is now locked and he finds him sitting at the table with his head something in his hands a
picture of abject depression and he says what's biting you doesn't look after a time and then he does look up and almost sobbing he says What's biting me i'm doing something that the messiah of the coming two thousand years must never find out about so that his reputation remains pure for all time well it's obvious what he's talking about he's talking about hitler because him always regarded hitler as being the messiah over the coming thousand or two thousand years and he's talking about the holocaust Carl volt actually says in his rather mendacious manuscripts afterwards i
didn't realize what him was talking about at that time but now of course i realize he's a bit of a liar i've got a document here the the german minister of transport writing the letter to carl wolf none other there we have it this document alone suffice to put karl volt behind bars in the 1960s You see himmler after operation reinhardt has begun in a kind of halting fashion in the spring of 1942 himmler's finding out that these truckloads trainers of jews have backed up all the way down the railway lines because the whole procedure
is taking too long he's imagined it would be done quite simply all the way down the railway lands in poland all the way back from the Reinhardt sites and he tells carl volk find out find out what the delay is on the railway lines eastern railways the minister of transport by replies to calvolf in these terms on 28th of july 1942 says dear the comrade wolf referring to our telephone conversation of july the 16th i'm informing you um the of what's the directorate of eastern railways has has told us about This delay in krakow when
it comes to quotation the paragraph what the director of eastern railways has actually said for the benefit of ss since the 22nd of july every day a train with 5 000 jews aboard has gone from warsaw via malkinia to treblinka now we're getting some numbers in addition twice a week we're sending a train with 5000 jews from brazil The second camp eastern railways is in permanent contact with the security forces in krakow this is declared has given their approval for the transports from poland uh to via lublin to sober board that's to be halted at
lublin until the reconstruction of the railway lands have been completed which will be in about october I mean carl said he said i didn't know what he said obviously he knows exactly what's happening here these are the three sites which he has helped himmler to to recognite her and supervise the construction work that went on there deep in the forests and the chance for ministers has given them some feeders and himmler writes a very nice letter Back to the minister of transport gansai mala saying dear her minister i'm delighted to hear that every week every
day a train load of five thousand of the chosen people who've been sent from warsaw to treblinka not much doubt there about what he's talking about and what he's what he knows that's carved off I think that document surface readily they're all genuine i'm satisfied all these documents i'm reading to you or authentic there's no question of any of them haven't been faked so that in outline it gives you a pretty broad broad brush brush picture of the numbers of people that have been swept up in this huge tragedy mindlessly i've got another telegram here
from the Security police in riga you've written to one of the transport one of the uh anzac's commando chiefs one of the head one of the commanders of the of the anzac commander which is the tactical unit actually carrying out the operations a man called colonel jaeger ss colonel jaeger and the telegram which i got here somewhere it comes from the moscow archives There's a telegram captured by the russians from riga which is where a lot of the stuff was left behind by the germans i've got it here somewhere you can look it afterwards if
you want he says please tell us this is the subject of the telegram is executions dated february 2nd 1942 executions uh please give us an immediate report on how many executions you've carried out Since the start of operations barbarossa it's about seven months um divided up into a jews b partisans c communist d mentally ill b others and again divided up into women and children how many of women and children are concerned and what the overall totals are i got his hand jaeger's hand written right off reply obviously eventually it Went for send by teleprinter
back to riga the draft of argus the figures overall total 132 000. very strange if you break it up there's 110 000 or thereabouts jews 1 000 communists 54 partisans i mean those figures when you stand back and look at them they don't bear any real relationship with what we know is i mean how many of those jews were communists how many of Those communists were jews and only 54 partisans were actually executed and all sounds like this begins to sound so the numbers might just be kind of made up and uh like vietnam viet
cong body counts i think i think you have to get a bit suspicious when you see numbers like that and and then he says of these the the Overall total 132 417 i think under these thirty thousand women and no fifty so if he gets to figure the exact number how many women and thirty three thousand were children that is disturbing thirty-three children children killed by the ss in seven months it's about as many children as we called in dresden burned them alive in two hours from 1945 the obama command People forget this they write
history those in a vacuum out of context but even so um must have taken some doing put it like that and begins to suggest to you that the numbers the poor power figures are about right up to a million killed in the police operations i think in the shooting into the pit operations up to barbarossa and and after barbarossa Operation reinhardt one and a quarter million and 1942 and the same number in 1943 that's 2.5 million so you've got something 3.5 minutes right away and we're not even talking about auschwitz where virtually nothing happened auschwitz
now is the the parade horse of the holocaust movement and the reason for that is simple Auschwitz has been turned now into a huge glitzy theme park with chrome and frosted glass and glass walkways and wonderful lettering everywhere and special designs and they're constantly working to rebuild it in treblinka too they're rebuilding when we went for everything in september i know just just across the wh down one of the lanes it was even rebuilding frantically a watchtower There which they felt they rather needed um but auschwitz if you go there now well i'll show it's
the reason why it's picked on ourselves because it's convenient it's only an hour from an international airport crap out and it's got buildings you can show people row upon row of red brick buildings which existed since the turn of the century And an execution award every time i go to the execution wall i put flowers there because some genuine heroes resistance fighters they were executed at that execution war all the commanders all the principal officers of auschwitz this is the point we're put on trial by the polls when the war was over the communist judge
famous judge called jan same And you have to remember that this polish court in 1947 had auschwitz had the evidence it had the documents it had the entire archives it had all the principal culprits had everybody to question and on the final day of the trial when half of them were sentenced to this and hanged at it on the following day the judges in their judgement which you found on my Website actually verbatim newsroom they said these 22 men were responsible for the running of this cruel concentration camp auschwitz in which during the war years
up to 300 000 people of all nations died not killed but uh up to 300 what happened to the four million the original memorial in outfits four million which has now been replaced by an identical size and shaped memorial fits into the same slot in the Ground to 1.2 million they invent these figures well they had to because the the communist government had been overthrown in poland and been replaced by a normal westernized government and eventually the game was going to be up and so they decided we better cut our losses while we can but
even so they didn't come down to the original courtroom figure of 300 up to 300 000 including all those who died in in the Hideous typhus plagues which we know from code breaking had wiped out hundreds of thousands um people normally but then the argument against that is yet they didn't regard the jews as people and they would have dealt with kind of the left hand uh so that that is a plausible argument and difficult to contest except on the math basis and say well how do you do it and the math basis is Really
a real killer here because for example although operation reinhardt ended in october 1943 formerly in march 1944 the germans invaded hungary and that was another half million jews what happened to them well professor van van pelt he came and gave evidence for lipstick and the lipstick trial and i had him in the witness box and i cross-examined him and i said how many Were you talking about he said about 450 000. i said what happened oh they went they were sent to ashes and liquidated he said i said yes that's the official version now but
can we discuss that please um what period of time was this he said that was in the spring of 44. i said it was may 44 wasn't it the last three weeks of may 1944. he said that's right so i said now you're telling the court That the zonder commander in auschwitz was able to process 450 000 jews in the space of three weeks is that what you're telling the court and he realized the trap he'd fallen into it but he had to say yes of course i said professor van pelt have you any idea
what 450 000 jews weighs we don't think of them in terms of weight How much meat it was the answer is about 40 000 tons and have any idea how long it would take to do that and how long and how much coal it would take to create fifty thousand people going on your own figures for the crematoria would take about twenty thousand tons of coke or coal here is our air photographs of auschwitz i showed you taken in that month may 1944 can you show the courtroom where the endless trains coal trains were bringing
these supplies as cold as the crematoria are or if they were buried in pits having an idea what volume would be required well i mean it's the math again and the answer is it would take 40 000 cubic meters huge pits to bury them and they and i said just one final point can we look at Their photograph again there's a little building just to the northwest corner of crematorium too where according to you they were gassed and cremated can you tell me the court where that building is very reluctant he said yes that's the
coal bunker i said will you take it from me if i tell you that that coal bunker is about eight or ten feet square have you any any notion of how many tons of code you can get in it 12 feet square yes i mean i said all this on a visit to our she's actually pointed at actual remains of that building it's still there the coal bunker and the polish guide official page came right woman in a long floor-length black dress i remember a dramatic hat came watching you and said turn that camera off
you're not allowed to discuss questions like this this is his holy crown So invasive holy ground you're not allowed to ask how many time tons of code you can get in the coal bunker but i'm not saying nothing happened to them but i do know because i've done the re i've gone the extra mile in britain we have the entire stenographic records of the conferences held by field marshall earhart milch in the german air ministry he was deputyry verbatim conference reports about 40 Volumes and i've read all those and after a time in early 1944
you get the problem the hungarian jews who are now being brought into germany and all the able-bodied jews are going to be put to work building these huge gigantic underground aircraft construction fights factories in bavaria gigantic caverns have been excavated and roofed over with concrete two hundred thousand jews is the figure given in those conferences Alone for building those factories so they didn't end up in auschwitz but people don't people who ask these awkward questions they get sent to prison i can name one or two people well i can name one person who's been sent
to prison for that um sorry to confinement a year and a half and i can recommend solitary confinement if you're a writer good stuff You're being fed austrian taxpayer expense three meals a day awkward times that's true awful food but apparently it's balanced nutrition on saturdays you had just a lump of cheese the size of a matchbox and one raw onion that was your saturday saturday nutrition but i can recommend it it's wonderful you have six inches of armor plate between you and the criminals of the Outside world so you're completely safe and you no
risk of visits from bailiffs or lawyers or wives or children can i have the pocket money whatever it is you can just concentrate your mind on writing and i did i wrote four thousand pages thanks to the austrian times said austrian taxpayers i'm very grateful to you so there we are um Your access to the internet no no had i been convicted you've got to remember i wasn't convicted at the time i was still on remand as an appeal prisoner with an appeal outstanding and until then you are not a convict and as a con
as a roman prisoner you have much worse conditions that than as a convicted prisoner in austria anyway if you're a convicted prisoner then you can Ask for a computer and you are supplied you have to buy a brand new computer which is sent direct from the factory to you so there's nothing on it um yeah these various things yeah but i was still the most clear as far as reinhardt goes there were the four camps to block this other the others those cables suggested about two And a half million now uh how do they kill
what you mentioned some shootings and stuff um you're going to go below the knee with with trivial trivial questions and i admit uh i'm going to ignore in my hypnobiography i'm ignoring all the trivial questions like was it carbon monoxide or dioxide was it diesel engines or petrol engines where they shot over their poison what happened to the bones a lot of kind of lower order Questions contributory questions which people sometimes bring up and i agree that if you're if you're an addict as i am too of the first 48 or csi miami or these
other programs you tend to ask all the forensic questions but unfortunately from these decodes i am satisfied now that we have evidence of the numbers being processed and i'm not going to say it's an obscenity to start looking at details about carbon monoxide or carbon monoxide I'll leave that to the people who are interested in execution techniques i'm interested in this very seriously in the nape of the neck which is kind of soviet soviet style too um but then eventually i think they ended up with moral problems with people actually doing it it was it
was coarsening the entire ss force were getting involved with this And so they decided to use the methods that they've been using for euthanasia too which is various toxic gases what the name of the toxic gas use was i i don't know but i have to admit that that whole debate about the cyanide gas and the use in auschwitz and so on what brought me into this argument in the first place i was required to give evidence as an expert witness in the earned syndrome Trial and so for that reason i read the whole of
the fred leuchtter reports and attached to the federalist reports was the forensic laboratory tables on the buildings the fred leuchtter collected samples from and the forensic laboratory found no significant trace of cyanide compounds and that is what got me very interested shall we say because i went to University i studied chemistry and i know it's an exact science and if there's no significant trace of cyanide in the walls of the gas chambers so-called then there has to be an explanation for it they've got the wrong buildings there's one process we're in the ballpark and that's
why i think revisionists make a mistake Questioning those numbers because that's where eventually and also i can understand the jews being deeply aggrieved that these horrible numbers are being questioned by revisionists when in fact what they should be questioning is what was adolf hitler told um was it an act of the german state to the head of state i mean this is a question i've been asking since my little biography came Out in 1975. this is why this whole vicious campaign has been launched against me for the last 20 years because i'm asking the really
crucial question was this an operation carried out by individual uh germans well intentioned but for the wrong reasons who were trying to purify their nation and get rid of all the jews which might well happen in the united states in 20 or 30 years time i think Because i see everything shaping up that way too and i've warned this i've warned this i say you're now in the same positions of power and influence in the banks in the media and the newspapers and everything else that they you you guys were in the weimar republic which
led you unfortunately there and so i plead with people to stop questioning those numbers and start looking at how these things Happen and the jews should in the first place immediately start asking themselves the all-important two two-word question why us it's no happenstance that the jews have found themselves hated murderously hated year after year country after country millennium after millennium no sooner if they arrived in one country and forced them within 50 years they Have to flee for their lives all over again and they don't ask themselves what they're doing i know that i'm not
liked as a historian and i know the reasons why i know what would make me very liked i just start conforming swimming with the tide but something in my my makeup makes me throw up rather than do that i rather take take the knocks they never ask themselves why us they never ask is There any connection between uh lehman brothers and dick fowles dickfault making a half billion dollar bonus in 2008 the year that he brought the entire world economy economy crashing down and millions of ordinary people losing their savings and their homes and their
mortgages and everything just because of this extraordinary fabric of basically jewish designed financial malpractices And i understand that there was a a a united states-wide poll taken by one of the major newspapers washington post or new york times and people asking about 2008 who did they blame and 68 of the people questioned said it was the jews and i thought that's an extraordinary number if i was a jew i'd be run straight away the nearest travel agency i'd be getting the hell out of here yes That's what that's not what i thought about the american
people i thought most americans think it was who's they're just interested in where their next big mac is going to come from or their verb so david do you think that a main push for the the the holocaust as it is today reported by them was in part to protect the the banking structure that financed It i think that's that is the reason for them going after people like us because we also ask you subsidiary ancillary questions like who was ready to blame for the depression in 2008. look at all the big names look at
the big names in the federal banking system federal reserve this kind of thing why are they always jews people ask the big newspapers don't dare ask these Questions because they're impolite and uh and bad taste i'm not notorious for having good taste i'm the one who said more women died on the backseat of ted kennedy's car and chappaquiddick than ever died in that gas chamber building in auschwitz because nobody ever died in that because the building wasn't even built until until 1948. we now know the polls emitted was built in 1948 the one they show
the tourists Don't be saying that i was fined ten thousand uh dollars by the german german government was there a bigger push in america let's say because of the fed and weishaupt and all those who've created it here would there could you say there's more of a push to to push the holocaust in america versus say europe the reason that they push as you as you call it this this historical episode is because it comes down like a safety fire curtain in the interval in a Theater in new york or in london as soon as
an awkward question get asked it's look how they've suffered i know this because one typical example on that's a one person level in key west there's a street called duval street that's the main street like like bourbon street in new orleans that's the way every city has one in key west they have 20 t-shirt shops in that one street all 20 shops are owned by one israeli Family the local states prosecutor told me that this family is into money laundering the drug business and there's one shop they weren't able to they would investigate all the
others there was one they had so eventually three beautiful girls came up to me uh side story but they came up to me they said would i do my favor and of course i actually said yes and they said Would i go to the shop and get their pay because the jewish owner had refused to pay them for the four weeks i've been working there well i said yes but i went around the local police and i said can you lend me a cop tomorrow because i'm going to have this rather ugly task to go
around to a local israeli shop manager and ask him to pay several hundred or a thousand dollars to these girls who've done the work and He's decided not to pay them and the cops quite rightly said mr we'd like to help but we can't we can't help because this is a civil matter not a criminal matter and i said it may become a criminal matter and the job of the policeman standing the background is simply to ensure that uh there's no breach of breach of the peace and he said he said oh wait a minute
you say this shop on the corner of of Southern street and do well i said yes oh that is the one the state prosecutor has been trying to get his hooks into for a year and a half uh guernsey to say prosecutor a man called maya another jew but he was a brooklyn jew when i went to see him an hour later and this guy my he said mr irving we've had our eyes on that shop the management for for the last couple of years we hate them these israelis he said i'm jewish I'm from
brooklyn but the israeli jews who are here in key west they are the scum they prey on the tourists they pray on the cruise liners they've got all these tricks they do they they run their credit cards three times this kind of thing and he told me a lot of the tricks they use the special hebrew words they shout to each other when they get a victim that they can scam So he went along and you see the point of this now the following morning 9am we went to the shop for the manager that's there
and they go and they asked me to wait outside so he goes in with the cops and they say we've got these girls who you're in deep trouble managers hope because these these three girls turn out not to have got uh work permits then you're going to be fined ten thousand dollars each Under this i heard the voice this whining whale come from the management why are you doing this to me right he's 30 years old why are you doing this to me after all we have suffered and i thought they've got that phrase in
their microchip i mean people have women have in their microchip they've got this phrase if you don't know what you've done to upset me i'm not going to tell you right Jews have this if after all you have suffered and you are doing you are questioning my integrity right and that's the answer to your thing they they consider their entitled special treatment and that's i think the nazis actually use that free special treatment it's a bit cynical saying well they want special treatment they're going to get zombies behind wrong special treatment They won't like it
but i've told this to jews in in the in university audiences when they come not like these guys and start throwing things around but when they come and ask questions politely at the end i said if i was a jew like you professor then i would be deeply concerned the way it needs to go in the united states now this was university of washington somewhere i'm in new york i spoke in Idaho um they were on the washington side washington campus and uh i said you don't seem to realize that because you don't recognize it
that you are now making exactly the same mistake as the jews made in the walmart republic and then when everything goes belly up for them and they start boarding the trains heading for the east they're Wondering why is it why is this happening to us why are they doing this to us well the sad thing is that most of the people to whom it happened were totally innocent they were the innocent small fry it was the big guys it was the dick fouls who had brought this misfortune on them i don't think dick foley is
going to feel uncomfortable in the skin the prison he's got his half billion bonus And he went up he refuses to be interviewed but the bbc interviewed him it's quite amusing to watch him he's always going to be a kind of u.s kind of pussyfooting interviewer the bbc what previously went in there with the facts and figures and questioned him you've got a half billion dollars didn't you bonus when you're retired from from lehman brothers yeah dick Ceo of lehman brothers and he and he said no i don't think that can be true the bbc
said well we know the figures you've got two hundred thirty thousand dollars there's a payment you've got stock options for another two hundred thousand and then they knew all the figures which he then had to admit the bbc he said so that's it it is half a billion dollars you've got on in the one year when your your machinations brought the whole World economy crashing down and he refused consent ever to give an interview to anyone um obama is a very weak president unfortunately well he's controlled they're all controlled like a small barnet toboggan like
harry truman when he came into office um we all saw obama cheered him probably from our sofas as he signed those documents on the day he Came into office the first day i declare that obama that guantanamo bay will be closed in the next 12 months that there will be no more military tribunals all these things that were giving the americans a bad name around the world and here we are 12 months later year and a half later two years later and he's found out that he's not the guy who really runs the united states
and that what the president says doesn't Necessarily go uh an album with a few months in the senate gets 16 million from wall street the goldman sachs i was 100 director president goldman sachs loved his vision for goldman sachs is getting an equally bad name worldwide unfortunately you're reliant on the american newspapers for the news the american newspapers do not do the job they used to do it well Now i'm going to annoy you by saying the new york times is the one you keep your eye on they are now turning and they are becoming
a very good and anti-jewish anti-israeli newspaper the new york times the war newspapers owned by the salzburgers and they're reporting on some of the scandals like steve cohen and uh the the sac is a big hedge fund operation where you've got i think 11 billion dollars and they've closed on him The new york times saying well now all his top executives and i've been arrested and they're probably all taking the fist or pleading for special treatment and pleading to be treated leniently if they will blow the whistle on him and uh and then you're trying
to again all the wonderful articles they've written about cohen and and various other big guys on wall street who have behaved equally badly The naughty guys the naughty jew is doing naughty things the the wall street the new york times is quite an interesting read and things like you never used to hand that there right now now as i say the jews are not immune when it comes to the pages of new york times they get special treatment i thought that one of the things that the holocaust is promoted for Is to protect the communists
killing all the russians they always in the american mind when you start talking about mass deaths immediately people start talking about hitler yes and they skip everything that happened in the u.s yeah um well very interesting partly in that connection with putin um a few weeks ago putin announced in a Actually to a jewish audience he said the thing that the rest of the world doesn't understand is that the beginning of the soviet empire 85 percent of the top bolsheviks were all jews and he's talking about hundreds of them five or six hundred of them
and and uh fascinating because putin must have Realized that that wasn't going to stay you could find within those four walls where you're speaking to a jewish audience right next day i was all over the internet and in the newspapers quoting putin was fingering the jews and reminding the world of their of their guilt that they were the ones who provided all the top murderers and the mass murderers and the torturers for all jews As churchill wrote back in 1920 i think somewhere he wrote that you know on the newspaper russian revolution and then you've
got to wonder why why putin is reminding people of this what his pat purpose has said very interesting fact buchanan wrote an article saying is putin one of us meaning a christian do-gooder um yeah i think Well he's certainly a very i think he's a very clever he's a very clever man indeed you didn't get to the top position in the kgb by being stupid but he's in a corner because financially he's in a bad position i think he's up against the brick wall right now i think that's why i had to go into ukraine
like you did because well that also is very interesting about how the americans are being bathing badly again every time i See mass crowds on the streets i wonder how much money is the ca cia paid for this one they tried it they tried a few months ago now they're trying again and very interesting yesterday or was it this morning one of the big jewish newspapers has revealed uh a lot of ex-israeli army people are turning up running these uh groups of resistance fighters in the squares of the ukraine yeah Yeah right yeah right for
the eu ultimately yeah they're actually the ultranationalists are uh they hate you they're very anti-jewish so we got israelis working for the anti-semites well general galen who was the head of german citizen service i remember i wrote his i translated his memoirs and i had to go and see him many times and he said actually you wrote one of his Reports in 1942 he said in in our liquidation operations against the jews in the ukraine we're having maximum support from the ukrainian population and that's another thing they play down when i went to belgius the
first time one of the four camps bell's actually which is where i think it's 454 thousand in 1942. you go there now and belzer is about the size of four or five football fields and has been covered completely with a Two-foot thick layer of lava rocks for some reason by the jewish american jewish agency so you can't actually see the site anymore it's completely covered by this carpet of longevity but i spoke to the local villagers with an interpreter in a local village an old grizzled old woman she remembered oh yes i remember she and
my father ran the local bakery in this town and we supplied all the all the bridge To the ss unit at belgium so we're doing all that so then i then said but what did all the polish villagers think about what the germans were doing then oh we were so grateful they were doing that still yes absolutely on the side of the nazis which one of these books that you've written are these is this information that'll be in the biography Which i'm with which is coming out this year the first volume of that with all
the all these completely unknown documents from moscow archives very very interesting for example you find out that the ss didn't regard the jews as an enemy until about 1937 they didn't the penny didn't drop they were keeping their eye on their index cards and everything on the catholics and the catholic movement on the protestant clergy there was a second the Third third enemy was the freemasons that then came then came and then the jews were way down at position number seven or eight and it wasn't until the jews started liquidating uh isolated nazis like the
ambassador in paris and deputy ambassador in paris or the head of the nazi movement in switzerland uh wilhelm gustloff 1936. So the penny began to drop and hydra says okay start keeping index cards on these guys too and they're very detailed instructions on how to keep the indexes card indexes so magnificently kept their different card indexes um which just grew and grew and grew these card indexes so when the crunch came it was relatively easy for the ss to go in and find all the jews because they had them all in Their card indexes but
then also we know from eichmann's papers icon was baffled about how much assistance he got from the jews a very interesting story in the new york times again um about two years ago i i clipped it out and i've used it um the headquarters of the jewish community in vienna was being sold everything was being emptied out and the building was being sold off for This real estate value and the construction workers emptying the building and found 350 boxes archived boxes filled with all the answered um questionnaires of all the jews who are going to
be shipped off and emigrated at that time they were still emigrating to america and elsewhere and the question the new york times asks is who actually drew up these Questionnaires and filed them and made them available to the ss but this the the jewish community and there became very tight-lipped they they said they had no idea um but the historian um raul many years ago this happened he was quoted by the new york times and saying was quite obvious this was the jewish community so a hand in glove with eichmann who is making it so
easy for the jews to emigrate he cut through all The red tape which has made it impossible before previously you had to get a passport to emigrate if you were a jew and and then you had to fill in all your you had to complete your tax affairs to prove that you didn't you didn't know the german right anything by the time you've done all the paperwork on that your passport had expired you then to go back and start the whole cycle again eichmann found out this Maddening business that the jews are being kicked around
from building to building and he said we've taken over the rostral palace in vienna my staff and i and we had everything under one roof and we cut through all the red tape and everything was done from one desk to another within the space of one visit they had all the papers and clearance that they needed and the jews are so grateful because not Only that also the the penalist jews who came to us and couldn't afford it we made the rich jews pay for them robin hood you said that and what and what is
the thanks i get for this that's what he actually writes in the memoirs what's the thanks i get nothing but the slime poured over me and i'm the one who made it so possible for them to emigrate in the first place and of course they got him for what he did Later on i i think we're going to have a at least a 10-minute pause now first of all so you can get get uh drink coffee or drinks for 10 minutes have it for 10 minutes it's what i call a commercial break because i've come
here very heavy laden and this is your chance for me to sign books and take anything you want to wear and take from fleas and plastic bags Um i've got a special signing pen with me and they are packing the restaurant so i've got a very quick question okay i'll make it as quick as i can you may have seen the video or maybe others in the room have seen it but there is a video on the internet where a gentleman produces 10 authentic newspaper american newspapers that say six million in june okay have you
seen that coincidence okay Any dishes you want okay okay very good uh yes frank thank you a second question uh jerome course you wrote a book uh indicates hitler survived i committed our argentina comments about that uh and you offered when she is was spinning with cyanide uh so he he did you said even around his way swallow cyanide i mean he gave me a long description he actually drew a sketch for me of how the bodies were Lying um you've got some trouble with the people letting you into the country can we help you
at all one of the biggest problems i've got is my bathroom what i say is i've got about 10 pounds of possessions over here in storage including about three times a dollar so that's yes good it costs money every month And um um all my books will be announced on irvingbooks.com i think two years ago that she was selling irvingbooks.com has all my books and products and talks and everything it's a very playable scholarship which we uh after my first bookstore was smashed by hackers in 19 2009 um the very serious damage it took Six
months to prepare that damage we then reload also and how from the ground up and that's the one you find out the early morning and that will certainly be there because i'm in the united states or not anything else i want to try to summarize what i learned it just real quickly i'm probably the slowest guy in the room but you're not questioning the six million jew number as far as me million jesus Died you're questioning what hitler knew and also the existence of gas chambers do i have it right um no no no not
entirely but from the numbers i'm very cautious but you've seen what numbers aren't justified okay assuming that the people feeding the numbers into that system we're not just doing their body time okay thank you congratulations Thank you very much thank you very much is