[Music] Rob Hof is with us uh traveling as he often does uh some other part of the world where you at now Rob I'm in Dubai I fleu in this morning and I'm here for a couple of days I come back to London then I'm going to sorry come back to South Africa and then I fly to London for the arc The Arc conference to listen to My Heroes Jordan Peterson Constantine kissen Douglas Murray Nile Ferguson and others and Paul Marshall it's going to be quite something the Alliance for responsible citizenship well I'm looking forward
to that conference as well and I think a few people in the tribe will say okay so you went and did the lefties or the globalists at D good that you're going to go and do the righties or conservatives uh in London it's going to be quite a uh week but Rob I I want to address the elephant in the room let's start there because we've had a lot of feedback from Big Business and big government saying why the hell are you a platform for Hof um and what's his agenda so I'm putting that question
to you what's your agenda why are you uh talking to us so regularly and we have this every fortn night you and I get together and the tribe love it the insights that you give them but what's your agenda I think my agenda is to be a voice for the South Africans that uh aren't in the Border Room with sirel or aren't able to stand up and speak on any public forum but uh what I'm able to say is what people everybody is saying around the Bri is basically the unvarnished truth and uh you know
I I I repeat what my dad said after my life got changed irreparably by public speaking at a bus news conference my dad said you know never been more proud of you for doing and saying what other people can't afford to do and say and that's what I'm doing but you know if I become repetitive or less relevant I'm happy to step down but for the time being I'm happy to tell it like it is you've also made a mission to expose yourself and expose your ideas and uh you know apart from our interviews and
long may they continue you've now got your own channel on YouTube you're expressing some very forthright opinions there perhaps even more forthright than what you tell the bus news tribe again what's the agenda there the agenda is simply to try and reach an international audience bus news is somewhat International but it's very much you know from a South African perspective and I'd like to be able to speak to the international crowd along with the bus tribe and get the message out because what worries me terribly is we have a GNU government in my view it's
going sideways which is a whole lot better than if we had MK in par orc and MK but going sideways is not good enough to fix the country you know we're not fixing the country we you know the G is putting as I say lipstick on a pig its main role is to keep MK out but it's it doesn't seem to be focusing at all on the on the next two most important priorities you know tackling crime and Corruption and uh creating economic growth you know sir's lie at Sona we're going to get to 3%
I mean Botswana is at 3.3% just across the road capitalist economy and socialist sural in hisc clowns are just floating a balloon saying 3% they're not going to get there there's no policy so that's where I'm coming from I'm trying to explain what's really going on in South Africa um to an South African and an international audience and that's all I'm trying to do and I'm not doing it for financial gain you know this has in Endless negatives to it endless negatives but you know once you end you just keep going I've got a challenge
for the tribe go back and watch the sonas siral sers see what he promised us I just remember off the top of my head uh every child would have an iPad m did we get excited about that well I don't know how many children in schools have got iPads certainly that was a a promise that was never fulfilled but I'd love someone in the tribe or other members of the tribe to get together and to take each one of those sers and say this is what he promised this is what he delivered and then we
can start looking at these cers with a realistic eye in the same way that you have but let's get back to the gnu yesterday fascinating interview with France uh cronier who said that the gnu in his opinion has become a doormat for thec now your pal Gaton McKenzie who who must love you Rob because when you started saying that gon was the man the whole world it seemed said have you lost your mind including myself I said are you nuts and yet today gon is the the one politician who's come out of the whole gnu
exercise with great credit and he is a a a man who's showing his leadership qualities but he thinks the gnu is a good thing and he continues saying that so who's right on this one France or gon France gayon has to say what he's saying because he's part of the gnu and he has bought into the priorities of keep MK out you know help fix his ministry and and make sure the gnu tackles at some point soon crime and deals with you know no economic growth but you know he is in the sports arts and
culture ministry that's his job he knows sirel is isolated completely isolated and a lame duck but his job in the gnu is to defend the gnu and I respect that you know he's got a job he's got to do it but you know we will be having Municipal elections in February 2027 and then we' got national elections in 2029 and you know he even though he will you know bat for the the gnu for as long as the gnu survives he has to have his own agenda and his own patriotic Alliance agenda which I support
he is the only true conservative politician uh he's the only businessman in in in the government and he's the only true libertarian free market um politician in that government you know I always said the da is kind of a soft version of the Democrats wimpy version of the Democrats which is a little bit cruel um in especially in this South African environment but gon is the true conservative and uh I am a conservative and you know I just wish that you know the Patriotic Alliance Freedom front plus and inara could pull together and create maybe
not a new political party and I want to call it South Africa first but maybe a movement that they work together for True conservative values true libertarian values Dayton's the man there's no question about it interesting point that you make there because it's similarly in Argent When Kia M came onto the onto the scene as a Libertarian he was branded a Madman by Legacy Media and today he's he's The Wonder of divorce but you know the other big Point that's that was made yesterday by France cronier is that he reckons the way the government of
national Unity because you got to look at it that way even though it's thec who's doing all the damage the way they've been behaving themselves in this um interaction with Donald Trump is threatening to bring 1985 type sanctions onto South Africa he said the risks are growing now I remember 1985 the debt stand still interest rates going to 25% hundreds of thousands of people being unemployed as a result of the collapse of many small businesses people losing their homes the Americans pulling out other nations pulling out because they said okay South Africa we're not going
to roll over your debts it was as simple as that it wasn't the case of we're not lending you more money which of course they wouldn't but when the debts come up for you got to repay them and that was a many people say that is what caused the end of or certainly it hastened the end of a part8 but if that were to occur then surely anybody who's associated with that action and the action that's happening right now and we can going to get into more detail in that in a moment would be toed
with that brush including gayon correct America's going to do it I'm telling you right now America is going to absolutely pull the plug on South Africa sanctions tariffs it's going to put people like and I never pronounce his last name kuana um Julius MMA on the terrorist list um you know assets will be frozen you know passports will be disallowed at certain places it's coming there's no question America's Hut fall and they deserve to be I mean you know giving Aid to us and we just giving Aid to our ANC run government in South Africa
up till recently where every single decision in that the United Nation South Africa's voted against United States I'm not surprised I'm surprised the US even care anymore I'm surprised they haven't pulled the plug completely on South Africa and you know Joel Pollock I I didn't even bother listening to the Sona address this is a waste of time listen to sir's lies and Promises I don't you know they're clapping seals in the in the the audience it's pathetic I didn't even listen to it I listen to Dary ru's excellent excellent summary of Sona that's the only
one that actually tells the truth on what sirel said you know sir's a liar someone wrote the speech for him he probably didn't even read it in advance um and I listened to the Joel Pollock interview on I think it was this sa Jewish report was excellent I mean Joel Pollock was a lefty Saw The Light he's not a conservative just say straight up I'm a conservative and you know he could well be our the South African Ambassador uh US ambassador South Africa and he's tough as nails and he just says South Africa deserves to
get completely clapped for Its Behavior and the anc's brought it upon us but let me tell you a subtle difference between 1985 and now and I do think America is going to Heap sanctions on us we're going to get hit really hard in 1985 the net government actually cared actually cared about the impact of that on Southern Africa they actually cared for all South African population and what it reduce the economy thec don't care the ANC don't care they don't care that the vast majority of South Africans are unemployed undereducated poor homeless hopeless living in
Shacks because the more of them there are in this desperate situation that aren't in the formal economy the more Reliant they are on grants the more the Reliant they are on the AMC the more the vote for the AMC it's entirely malevolent and evil so I think thec Fat Cats s in the gang don't actually care they're sort of saying well bring it on you know they think the Chinese and Russians will help which they will at an incredibly disastrous price but the ATI don't care they do not care about the people they care about
loing stealing and in Feathering their own nests and only ever have it's interesting to see if they care win the cave C's get closed and the McDonald's get closed because that's really at the hland you can't get your KFC anymore you're going to get some pretty pissed off uh people in the at the'll bottom I think it's precipitating Alec I think this is precipitating a necessary crisis and everyone's going to say oh Rob it's okay for you to say it you can just be the last Chopper out of saon true but at least I'm saying
it and I think the crisis is coming I think we're heading now for the crisis been accelerated and let's see you know there's been a lot of racism in South Africa anti-white 140 somebody did the work on it it's excellent you I'd like to see the list of the 140 pleas whoever did that work probably the free market Foundation you know David andarin team superb or AF for both superb but there's a huge amount of anti-white racism that's been going on and on and on and on and on and it's come to a head you
know I'm calling the ANC a racist organization you know I'm calling out black racists where I see them it's impossible that only whites can be racists there are a lot of black racists in this country and it's sickening and we need to get over it and Gaton has always said there's a there's a sell by date from when you can keep blaming your ex-girlfriend or ex-wife there's a sell by date from when you can keep blaming a parted and that s by date has passed you know thec has failed this country wake up South Africa
but what would be confusing many people is that big business Legacy Media they tend to be supportive of thec a little bit like it reminded me a little bit like when hansy cronier if you recall was being called out by the Indian police all of South Africa myself included said that's not possible the Indian police are wrong we that's our huny that's our captain so it was this this patriotic in a way uh ignorance that superseded logic and we've seen b big business and certainly Legacy Media saying buger off America what do you think you
know sir's right we must protect our sovereignty as a nation we know what we're doing what do you make of that is that malevolent is that just because people are distracted or was it is it because a dark agenda let's yeah exactly let's deal with them news4 is just a voice for thec it's a dreadful organization okay that audrian basson is an ass kissing is a sural ass kisser bottom line he was put in that position to do it you know just ensure that the DStv and the others kept their licenses he's he's the Angy
ass kisser Dreadful organization but not all Legacy Media tow the line on this matter you know they're just a little bit scared of stepping out of line so you know media is getting more and more fragmented that's a good thing I listen mainly to the podcasters Biz news uh I read Deli friend I follow afre Forum their Publications free market Foundation I grudgingly read some of Deli Mavericks articles but they're a bit Lefty wanky anti- business and the rest of media I ignore you know sabc they've kind of got to tow the line and say
that President stood up for South Africa but let's talk about big business and by the way I'm going to stop calling corporate South Africa cows and colluders okay I had a conversation on Sunday with a a someone who's been on business a couple of times a business hero he runs a business that has 100,000 employees and he said Rob he said you know I would love to stand up and do what you're doing and I'm very proud you do it and you must keep doing it but corporate South Africa is cornered corporate South Africa is
the frog in the pot you know on every public board every public company in South Africa is the pic which is the government there's be and be are never going to call out the government I they're just pigs of the trough there are diversity you know uh directors um and the chief executive of these company male female whatever color whatever shape and size are surrounded by of these entities that make it almost impossible for them to stand up like I do or you do and call out the government and so therefore they are currently Towing
the line on the America thing they're also very worried about their franchises a go is going to get cancelled all the other Agreements are going to cancel it's going to hit business really hard it's going to hit farming really hard it's going to hit the corporate Community very hard and they know it and they're just trying to survive in their difficult patch so I apologize to corporate South Africa for my two years of calling you cards and colluders I hate to say there's nothing you can do but I know you're cornered and you've got you
know sword of damn gun to your head and you know these nasty people surrounding you where you can do very little including the unions so um on that note I'm going to move on from the corporates but they what what can they do what can they do they're trapped we most South Africans are trapped like a frog and Boiling Pot and the pot's getting hotter the only chance we have of breaking this deadlock that we're caught in is an external force and that's what's coming America has had enough and that's going to create a dynamic
and you know that great expression never waste a good crisis well we've got one coming and coming soon Rob that uh boiling frog uh analogy has been ascribed to Sir Raposa in a discussion in fact it was in a biography of Amberen where he quoted sirel as saying I'll deal with the whites over 25 years like I would deal with uh boiling a frog in a pot it's been disavowed uh in in in speech but it certainly um when you have a look at the actions you you might be thinking that there was a lot
of Truth to that 100% I mean I it's boiling now it's boiling now and we are the frogs they play a long game you know they've trained in in in Soviet Russia um you know they were not very smart they were probably educated but they were definitely propagandized by the Soviets and this is the Soviet Playbook you know play the long game you know we thought after the second world war you know after the uh the curtain collapse the East you know the German East and West Berlin War collapsed the Russia collaps we thought we
had won we the free market the capitalists the pro-democracy uh people worldwide thought we'd won but we got we were complacent we had not put the knife through the Beast and the Beast plays a long game the Beast of the leftist the beasts the Soviets and the beasts are you know the proxy for the Beast of thec in this country and they're playing the long game and they are definitely achieving their goal the Frog us is boiling so what do you see happening now you have said that the crisis is coming do you see an
1985 type crisis that accelerated the end of a part8 do you see this crisis that's happening now accelerating anything yes but it could go either way you know when when a when when the riot happens when the everyone hits the street when the strikes and Madness happens a civil unrest you know moosey said to me it'll happen one day but we just got to make sure that the people MO March at thec in ptor and not fry the country you know you can't control something once it's the it's out of the box and I mentioned
the difference between 85 and today is that you know that government actually cared about the economy and all the people of South Africa and they made the rational decision this we can't keep going let do a deal whereas this crowd the ANC just don't care they don't care if people die they don't care if more people unemployed and they don't care if we de-industrialized and our country collapses and our econ economy collapses they don't care they don't care I wrote an open letter which I might actually use as a you know my State of the
Union Address I might do that on bus in in a month or so rewrite it a few weeks ago how to fix South Africa was 10 points I mean everyone knows what they are you know privatized state owned Enterprises blah blah blah it's pretty basic the free market Foundation have have an identical list as does the Institute of race relations it's very clear how you can fix this country thec don't care they don't want to fix the country they want to loot and steal and feather their nests and if you didn't read the zondo commission
I mean it's clear as the driven snow but that would be illogical and I say that because you have a uh a group that runs the country and let's be completely Frank about that Patrice his sister is married to sirel um his other sister's married to Jeff and they're all great beneficiaries of the new South Africa massive beneficiaries financially including sirl himself who is a billionaire which is extraordinary to think about and if they didn't care why then would they uh that it just doesn't make sense because if they don't care then all of their
wealth is going to be wiped out uh which is pretty clear what happens in this kind of a crisis and those individuals themselves could get sanctioned internationally they surely will have massive funds around the world in US Dollars and then the US's long arm can reach them so I I hear what you say but it it doesn't make a lot of sense if you're sitting in their in their shoes so how much power does does Patrice really have Alero okay he's a massive beneficiary of what's happened he's made a fortune on the positive side he
was the first person to sign the giving pledge with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to give away a third of his money to charity when he passes so shout out for him but you know he gives I'm guessing 10 million Rand to the DA and 10 million Rand to thec he feathers his nest and has he ever stood up ever and called out thec has he ever said guys I think things are not quite going in the right direction I really think we should be f a bit more focused on free enterprise no he's at
some can film festival he doesn't give a damn he's just you know benefiting like all the other be people you know chomping away at the trough trying to get as much as they can before it falls apart they don't care you are logical I like to think I'm logical the business's tribe are logical these people don't care and and logical Minds can't understand that so paint a scenario for us of what is likely to happen over the next 5 years it only took five years after the Rubicon speech for a partake to be completely vanquished
which many at the time of 1985 would have said was absolutely impossible paint us the scenario the upside and the downside well I've pretty um the upside is we bang along going sideways and going nowhere at 1% economic growth and um you know the government doesn't use the lawfare Warfare of ewc to just take the Watchers off our arms which they can do now it's like having a loaded gun in a bedroom with children running around at some point one of the kids is going to pull the trigger that's with ewc is so the positive
the The Hope over experience the is this we keep going sideways you know more and more talented people leave the country um I think a lot of people will take up the offer the very generous offer of trump to go to America um maybe Australia New Zealand will you know offer the same thing and then you know both those countries IQs will go up and rugby skills and Cricket skills will go up by poaching all our South Africans and you know more and more and more people who can leave will leave and this country will
just slowly de de-industrialized and end up being you know a medium inome impoverished useless country and that's the that's the positive the negative is we have an economic collapse the r goes to 50 to 100 and I see this in the next 12 months um Everybody shifts into gold or Bitcoin you see the price of gold going up already and externalizes their Capital as quickly as that possible all the young graduates leave bang you know they may even think about staying and there's an economic collapse of sort and civil unrest serious civil unrest so I'm
more on the downside I'm 55% downside than upside I don't I think I think America coming in swinging is a good thing but because we have ANC that doesn't care they're just looters I think this could go horribly wrong I'm I'm pretty pretty negative right now so the real upside I guess of all of that would be a damine conversion by those who are in calling the the shots in the government of national Unity using the other parties as doormats as France says and basically opening their eyes and saying good goodness we've got to a
point where we really have pushed it too far you know that that uh story of France is about the bayonet the Soviet approach of pushing the bayonet in and you hit mush until eventually you hit steel a a a realization that the bayet has been sent much too far we've got to get this economy going otherwise we all lose that surely has got to be the real upside here yeah but where's it going to come from you know in 1992 Sweden was you know doing 100% income tax had collapsed economically the currency was worth nothing
and they had a dam scene moment where you know the Finance Minister stood up and said this is unsustainable we've got to to go the other way it's not working with socialism let's go the other way let's try capitalism and you know they all went fine let's try it but those are logical intelligent people who in thec is that person give me one name of a reformer one name of an inspirational individual in the current ANC cabinet that could stand up and hold the torch in the air and say let us try the other direction
it's not sir I mean he lacks spine and coones I mean it's a man with nothing in him a sock puppet who there you know Enoch godu maybe but is he strong enough I don't see anyone else who's going to do it you know you know gon's ging in popularity but but sh thec would ever have the courage to stand up and said this is wrong let's go in another Direction Direction they'd be kicked out of thec maybe it's just because they haven't emerged yet but if you have a look at another scenario which has
been painted in certain quarters in the past there have been lots of tading between the africanas and the Zulus and uh I.E you would be looking about the freedom front plus and the ifp stroke MK MK is definitely uh painted in South Africa as being worse than crazy but strange things have happened Rob if the other parties were to get together they could get rid of this ANC they could change the country they could reset the the whole situation if you are saying that it's impossible for thec to reset then surely we've got to consider
and people in the da have got to be considering some kind of an alternative and why not explore the opportunity of finding an alternative to this government who I mean if anything the alternative is hard left it's the lunatics of the MK and the others you know if you putc mkff that's 66% of the voting population are in favor of socialism and leftwing lumacy 66% and as you rightly said you know Elon Musk was asked does South Africa stand a chance and he thought about it for a long time and then said demographic don't lie
you know 25 million people on social grants poverty unemployment you know turning this around requires a damine moment but the only damine moment people that have any power strength to jiz and spine onto the ANC arenta could do it so what's the stop us henta took a 100 years it was 1920 in the 1920s they were one of the richest countries in the world world it's 2020 took a 100 Years of socialism to destroy the economy for them to wake up and vote in and have you m you know I spoke to Prince Michelle he's
I hope you can get on to bus news I mean he is beyond extraordinary he's highly intelligent Thursday okay great and he said you know he sees you know potentially in five years time the ANC dropping below 30% MK going up to 30% the D at 25 and then he left the rest open but I would see the Patriotic Alliance at 15 and then you still have thec saying you know do we do a deal with the da or the MK I mean and that's in five years time so nothing is going to happen between
now and then politically unless there's a crisis and I don't know what that crisis will be it's quite scary when you think of the options I'm sorry to be negative tribe I'm sorry to be negative Alec but you know you know everyone I talk to they're either delusional like corporates and mainstream media they're just trying to tow the line because they're too scared and America is just hurtful they've had enough and I don't blame them you know and then there's Russia and China folding their arms knowing that they own thec and come to data you
know it's and caught in the middle in The Boiling Pot are us frogs I'm sure there were many many people who felt the same way ahead of the Rubicon speech in 1985 when if you call uh P who was then foreign minister went around the world told the world we're going to get we're ending a part eight things are going to change in South Africa the whole International media was in uh Force at that small meeting uh provincial meeting of the National Party in Durban and then PW berter decided he wouldn't cross the Rubicon he
at least had up until that point where he changed his speech he had a Rubicon moment are you saying to me today it is absolutely impossible no Miracle will happen with sorza that Rubicon moment is not going to happen here's our bed this is the one we're going to lay in and actually make your plans accordingly so look let's look at who the most powerful people in thec are or most popular okay they're the ones sitting in the cabinet hoping to be the president next yeah it's not going to be gu but it could be
fil and Bela and fil balula you know I don't think has any principles he's just sort of you know a bit silly and a bit you know but he's popular and he's not going to become the president under current scenar under any Cent scenario you know s doesn't really particularly want him Paul wants the job M he's not going to get it that nasty lufi ain't going to get it and s's going to try and give it to someone younger and female as real life heard but imagine and I'm just floating a balloon here imagine
if Fila and balula stood up up and said this isn't working guys you know I've had a deeper look and let's try radical free markets capitalism and see if we can get economic growth and people out of poverty if he today came out of the box and did it he's not going to become president this is probably his shot who knows who would support him I mean even G might say let get behind it you know I don't know I'm floating a balloon I'm just pulling it out of left field cuz fil does have a
big following um or fil and one or two others bail outs and they join you know Freedom front plus and Carter and patriotic Alliance to form the true capitalist free market party and then they suck all the top people out of the da can you imagine that I mean maybe it's Madness and fful but I'm now trying to be hopeful trying to look for a solution but I don't see a leader out of the ANC other than maybe Fila and he's not the smartest tool in the Box you you'd have to scratch the head to
say which of the politicians are the smartest tools in the box when you when you get to that point but perhaps South Africa needs another FW de clar or a gorbachov who's prepared to sacrifice uh the both were in charge ale both were in charge at the time so you're saying Sor will do that I'm not I'm I'm asking I'm looking for Hope and I'll tell you why it's so important right now unfortunately in so on social media and uh Legacy Media they're all saying well africanas will never leave South Africa Linda interviewed Neil Diamond
who's from the uh South African Chamber of Commerce in the United States he said after the speech of Donald Trump's there was so much demand their servers crashed he said they have engaged with 50,000 people over a couple of days who are wanting to go into the United States if Donald Trump opens that door as he say has with his executive order there are millions upon millions of people around the world who want to get into the United States and can't legally that is some of them have been getting in illegally but focus on the
legal immigrants if he opens that door to South Africans it's a nonsense to say that people aren't going to go of course people are going to go and that there's the evidence for you Australia new 100% agree Alec I think any young Africana would jump at the opportunity it's the older ones that you're listening to the people that are vested interest in farms that can't move who are the bter Enders you know guys kind of my age who are saying you know I've lived all my life yeah I can't see myself moving or I have
a farm and I can't leave it or I'm you know mortgaging is but the Young Generation B Gone every single one I don't I I see very few afanas that wouldn't jump at that opportunity and by the way afriana it's not just you know a cultural you speak Africans you can come in you can't come in because you're English speaking I think it's what Donald Trump is saying is your intelligent educated Dynamic people who ought to have a good future I welcome you with open arms and and you know and I don't think he cares
whether it's white black green or yellow shapes and sizes I think he's just saying South Africa is going down the plug will take your best people which is genius I mean if I was running some tint country America's not timot I was running some country that really needed a bit of dynamism black to was running Ghana I'd open the floodgates to South Africa I'd say all South Africans who have a metrick or a degree or or some skill or welcome to come to my country that country would boom it's an interesting point you make there
because when you try and look at Trump's motivations his motivations are he's very transactional we know that in everything that he's done and he's quite proud of that fact he's doing something that is going to benefit America so by opening the gates he's saying let's pull in uh the best skills now it takes an idiot to not appreciate that if you lose that those skills and that tax base the rest of society has got to suffer so the conse quence of this my my scenario to you is hang on guys we can't lose these people
who keeping the country going I mean what have we got a million taxpayers who carry burden you really thinkal aleec you're being logical again the ANC don't care they don't care they actually deep down go let the let all the whities disappear we don't care they're a cynical evil organization you think they're logical they're not logical every every organization every every group of people have some who are cynical and nasty but human beings are generally not and I would be betting on people within thec saying hang on a minute if I can see if I
can join the dots and see the future I know that the past 30 years have been pretty bad unless they've been pretty bad and we've sacrificed for something better in future then we got to do something about this and maybe our leaders are taking us over the abyss that that's that's perhaps that's my optimistic what do we what do we get on the buiz news show some of the following people okay obviously Prince machelle this Thursday incredible ask him this ask him this question are the ANC cynical malevolent incompetent evil please ask him that I
met him recently what an impressive man get mlet Beck on get omry M on he believes the ANC should be out of power and re vitalize itself okay he thinks it can be done and let's try and get Enoch gagana or David maso on now but I think the politicians AR aren't able to speak honestly they have to tow the line and then get gon back you know um get him on um because he'll tell the truth who tells It Like It Is Well it's only uh a month away in fact a month today that
we are going to have PA Mas and gon and of course yourself amongst our 28 keynote speakers at the biz news conference so we're going to get all of those guys there I'm looking for one more Rob I've had a a late cancellation okay okay I had a late cancellation which has opened up a slot uh and that that soundss like a good call well we'll we'll talk to him on Thursday and and see how that goes yeah Rob thank you uh for taking time out of your very busy schedule for honoring our fortnightly engagement
uh more strength to the story that or the message that you're giving people if nothing else you're getting people to think and that has got to be the foundation of any progress in society just think if you don't agree with herself fine but at least think about what he has to say don't say he's he's a a malevolent Force because that is one thing that I could absolutely tell you isn't true Rob's not in it for himself he doesn't have to be here he could be quite happily sitting uh enjoying the fruits of his labors
and it is his labors it's it's uh as he's discussed many times uh he's not a trust fund baby yet I suppose as you as you keep telling us but the reality is that we appreciate your your frankness your openness and I like the way you put it right in the beginning of this conversation Rob where you said you are a voice for many who don't have a voice and I think that that is why hundreds of thousands of people follow what you say and keep telling me man that Rob Hof he really tells what
I would like to be saying but no one is listening so thanks again all uh hope you have a a a very good trip to Dubai and look forward to seeing you in London next week Rob Hof is a capitalist activist and I'm Alec hog from buz news cheer
