Machine Gun Kelly the decision to black out your tattoos was crazy how long did that take 70 hours there was a point where I like gave up and I just felt like I was just dying when you started dating Megan Fox was there a part of you that was like I'm dating the girl from Transformers Megan Fox I don't know this guy from a crumb of bread he's so dumb that I'm going to tell him right now shut the up and don't Speak on me anymore expecting a daughter in 2 months you're the first man
she's ever going to be in love with come on bro you're the man she's ever going to be in love with and so you are always going to be the safe place I saw Randy Orton and I remember seeing them talk about me and I was like I'm going to practice a new vers of myself and then I'm like that hey man [ __ ] you all my boys were sitting there [Music] Like what' you say bathrooms are great our Our Guest is using the bathroom he will be here momentarily in the meantime we will
do some okay um what would you call a a story like folklore about the thing that you eat dinner off of a fairy table I was gonna go a table Fable all right dude I have to be honest with you sitting on this set without my United States Championship Lonely Road take me home for real dude where is it it was all we had left yeah you said that and you were right do you do you actually feel like kind of whack for sure have a black eye and no title oh he it's like someone
punched you in the face and took your belt he W my he beat my ass I'll be honest that that match hurt I saw him there after last night with my belt yeah I said congrats champ yeah and he and his eyes lit up he was like this he looked so Happy I mean look congrats to him he's a very good wrestler it was welld deserved he fought extremely hard kicked out of my knockout punch last night but at the end of day the day it's always going to be my belt it's my belt I
see I see it on him but everyone knows that us title is mine so you can have it for now for the time being but uh I'm coming back for a rematch because I don't know if y'all saw I don't think he got that pin I don't think he got that pin I don't Think so my foot was on the Rope it was on the rope on number three one two and my foot just bounced off the rope in a wrestling terms that means doesn't count you know what does count today's guest play back oh
he counts ladies and gentlemen something Machine Gun Kelly what up baby what's up you dude you a headphones guy yeah uh you should you should get in the zone with us you don't have to we we we like them put them over those razor blades I know the Razor blades make it there we go what's up bro what up whoa headphones are kind of cool they're nice right we're locked in dude we just had Undertaker sitting where you're sitting wow Legend you know that's why the like the ass of this seat is like sunking in
yeah hey thanks for doing this man yeah thanks for having me how you feeling Coulson uh good good I'm I like I'm I'm an awkward talker so I don't know how this is going to work for me that's not true at all it's not it's Not true at all dude you're you're extremely deep I was explaining this to nah yesterday cuz you come across mysterious to people and I think that might be part of the allore because you are really an artist to your core but I'm like I was explaining to her I'm like he's
cerebral he's creative he's an intellect he's in touch with his feelings he's self-aware you're all these things but I'm not sure people really know that about you yet I know I Know there was like this one band that like met me and they were like waa man you're kind of like an enigma like I don't really are they don't really know who I I mean you know to me I'm always in my house and I'm like [ __ ] I'm so misunderstood but I that's probably cuz I never talk I also I like uh well
yeah go ahead sorry I was going to say not not not to not to tell you how you're feeling you Also jumped right into like the hardest question he had just said he has trouble talking like describe your cerebral nature no I didn't I didn't ask a question I was just saying I'm just an observation and and perhaps you feel misunderstood because maybe you have a hard time even understanding yourself you're you're you're I'm just saying you're very guy well I just the reason I'm I'm leading into something I saw you went on Theo's or
not Theo um was it Bobby Lee and uh what's the Ginger's name uh Caro's way Sano s Santino Cheeto Santino he's gonna kill me I know him [ __ ] uh you were talking about how uh how you feel about yourself radiates there's a clip I saved it cuz I I like I like resonated with it and and you you seem like really dialed in recently dude yeah I mean that's probably like a a culmination of seeing it's like I I had To see myself back from how I came off and I just I didn't
really I was always like anytime I see clips of myself like back in the day I'm like who the [ __ ] is that guy really CU you're he's a shape shifter too that's another like you know what I'm saying he's changed so many times I me you know evolved I say I mean your your cells regenerate every seven years anyway so you literally are a different person fit even physically you're a different person than you were 7 years ago so I mean I mean mentally for me though s years ago I was on cocaine
and any drug you could imagine and like that isn't the case anymore so when you're when you say like I come across grounded or no that's that's like a new revelation for me and a new uh version of myself that I just met but this is like a lot more true to who I was um I mean maybe not though I mean I kind of I kind of even you know when I reconnected with my mom she was Like dude you were the most emotional baby I've ever met like I always was like trying to
get I was really I don't know I'd be I was my my bipolarity was Heavy from like the day I came out I was really sad then I'd be really happy and I always was trying to like get away from who I actually I was always like a character player like there was there was pictures of me for like 3 years when I was a kid where I would wear like anything on my head that Like resembled the pterodactyl Bill okay cuz I was like I'm I'm a Pterodactyl okay and then you're certainly shaped like
one like you're kind of tall and lanky yeah I'm more like brosur like the neck of a brosaurus yeah was this still was this still when you were living in [ __ ] Egypt yeah I was I was bro bro out of all the stuff that exists in your storyline I like this is what this like Logan's going to ask you if you have any hot takes on the Pyramids like the I did not know this interview was going to go there what the hell which I do have hot takes on the pyramid I knew
you did I knew you did yeah I'm reading my PDF it said the first four years of your life lived in Egypt yeah which which which kills me because anytime anytime uh something Cleveland comes up there will always be like one just really douchy angry old white dude who's like he was born in Texas and it's like I I I lived there For one and a half weeks until my baby body could sustain a flight that was a 19-hour flight to Africa so I'm also African that's crazy that makes it even more which is another
controversial take for the the Cleveland argument you know so I uh but even to that point you know my my first job was in Cleveland I lost my virginity in Cleveland first person I saw got shot was in Cleveland first mixtape I put out was in Cleveland like Home is where the heart is you know so Cleveland is where those sh and 100% when you see a man's brain splatter in front of you right before you go to open up for Gucci man like that oh this dude was 15 or 16 years old dude it
was in front of the Metropolis I'll never forget this this is and this is and and and all the club promoters know me here because they they used to have to call my dad and like make up excuses so that I could stay late enough to open for the Artist that was performing you know what I mean and so uh but that I'm just my my point is you know the the argument of like being born somewhere it's while at the same time a sports player from the middle of nowhere who only time in Cleveland
making money and just playing for our team the welcoming they have versus someone who I I I bled so so much passion and and pride in these streets in Cleveland like this this that's Something you can never take away from me I'm Cleveland to the death yeah man but back to Africa well I want to hear your hot take on on the pyramids they were built they were built with frequency like those stones were literally picked up with levitated like the they they still I don't know why this isn't even publicized but there they were
dishes right round round massive siiz bowls discovered all around the perimeter of the of the pyramid um In which you know there I love this study of this guy who he went um I don't know if he had cancer I don't know what it was but he essentially this was in the early 1900s so like 1920s era he went over to Tibet or to India some somewhere um in East Asia and he got footage of them cuz he he was embraced by them because to fix his sickness or something like that and uh he was
embraced by them and they trusted Him enough to show them this process of how they pick these massive these massive cylinders up and they would have Yaks um drag the blocks over these big bowls and then they would Point giant horns and huge drums like all all the sound was focused uh you know maybe in like a half cylinder like this towards this one point and they would play it and they would chant and they would hum and the stones would lift and it would go to this place in the The Cliff where They wanted
to go so like the bows would essentially catch the sound and the frequency would lift it and if you even listen to the building of the pyramids there they all talk about there was chanting you know that that that was a a very common through line and it wasn't like they were singing on some you know early Disney's movies like hi type [ __ ] you know so like uh I % believe that frequency had something to do with that even if you just go to concerts Themselves look at people when they cry or look
at people when a a song is playing the the absolute loss of everything around them how they're just so like it it it's like a church service the music hits you feel no pain dude when I did iasa and for those who ever do that if you go do it and there's not someone singing like it's not the proper way like there has to be somewhere someone mine they were Peruvian shaman and they would go to each individual Person and speak straight to your crown chakra and they would they would sing these they would Channel
whatever your body as energy brought to them and they would sing and when they hit a certain note dude your body uncontrollably would just start purging it would just start puking and uh I I could tell you know when when Megan and I did it we were separated but I could tell when it it was the shaman was singing to her like you could you could even though you Can't see anybody because it's a pitch black room I could tell whenever whenever it was her song and and you would hear when they hit a frequency
like it would resonate with different people in the room because people would puke at different times so so it's like a a symphony of puking basically yeah each person gets their own song to puke to but it but but a frequency would make three different people puke at the same time like they would hit a certain note And then all of a sudden everybody would just Purge and would those people that puked that to the same sound wave would they like kind of congregate as that level of puker well you're in your own you're in
your own zone so no I don't think after you puked I don't think anyone in mid- trip just got up and was like K went in Shake shook shook hands like hey you we we both puked at the same now go back to your trip I'm going To go back but that was cool that we puked at the when did you when did you do cuz I want Mega knew every actually everyone the the one common the one commonality in that room after we would like after everyone would calm down down and come down and
you all met at a star deck later everybody cuz we're all strangers but everybody was like oh I knew when you were puking I guess I was the loudest puker yeah and also the shaman the the shaman gave me the Most dose of anybody so I was the it was 22 people they of course waited for me last which was just such a like god-given like test of like your patience and anxiety is so [ __ ] you need you you I'm going to now make you wait this hour process to get to you just
to get your oh man you know dosage you got iced I got iced and when I went up there and I sat um there was a translator for the shaman and the shaman was you know told the lady he had he he Has there's there's something uh I forgot what the exact way she said it it was really haunting but giant black shadow right like a dark I've heard this before and she was like he needs the most he needs the most so okay so you you did this in Peru I did that in Costa
Rica in theost R what what do you attribute in in terms of change in personality and being an identity from That ceremony how many times have you done it four times in a in a hunt for separation from ego from self no that was a specif I I went specifically for something that I I have not reached a point like where I'm comfortable talking about cool um and like did I achieve that no I I maybe I mean I know I started like finally like there was one person ever That I like talked to about
what I went in search of of I you know I've had to learn to like rewire myself from my childhood like of things that I wasn't ever okay um admitting to myself right so like I that uh maybe it helped me actually be able to get to the point where I like didn't black any of that out got it you know but I but I know when I went there I I mean dude there I I the first night I Was in like a mud hell where like fingers were like popping out and like I
puked my dad's body parts up and I've heard it's an insane exper I've been talking to a lot of people about it lately we were talking about it yesterday you know a number of really you know big CBS athletes you know creators whatever Jake swears by it oh does he swears by it dude he's like everyone needs to do this and I believe another Creator we know said it was like One of the most important I don't know if he talks about it publicly but he told me recently he was like I I cannot believe
it exists and it and itang my entire Outlook and it led him to a to a massive um overcoming a massive like life pain and Trauma and and I think that's really what it's best for is just kind of overcoming all that all that trauma that's kind of just sits inside of you there's an interesting thing about it because I think like in Mainstream media we hear that part right which is that it's like this like really cleansing or like help help helps me uh with like ego death or all whatever you know like what
what you said but there's also the as ECT which I learned which is like you can unlock this is clearly how so many people especially you know down there in South America like that that route for sure showed them what plants did what right like that like and this bring this full Circles back to the pyramids thing because if you think about Primal people people like those ages where it's like how did anybody know in this Forest of millions of different species of plants and animals like how did anybody just figure out what does what
because the trial and error of taking different leaves and being like I'm going to put this on it's insane and also same with when you think of like Chinese face mapping which is extremely accurate right who there isn't the you can't convinced me that some dude just like trial and ered personality traits from millions of people's faces for like it would take so many different lifetimes and generations of Someone Like These it information is unlocked through these practices right like iasa for sure showed the people of South America this plant is good this plant is
bad use it Cuz I felt that on the second night where I was like you you saw the web of the I saw like the math of the world and and and my frequency is much less than the people back then before phones ever got into people's minds before all this you know uh uh information like overload overload yeah we're so over stimulated right so all of our frequencies no matter how much we could try to unlock they're way different than back then because all They had to do was like learn they enjoyed the sun
like the there's 10 people in their Village that's the only people they know Roots like what it did for them was insane I say the same thing it's almost like in in Norwegian culture like in my culture with like the runes like stuff that I have on my fingers right these are these are essentially like these are magic right these are casting spells right the and and these runes were unlocked I mean this Obviously is is mythology and I'm sure some of it is folklore but there there's always some truth in this how like the
Ia unlocked this for the South Americans but like with the runes they say Odin h upside down from the the tree of life for nine days and nine nights and that that essentially that whether it's the blood rush or whatever it was I took him into a state an altered state which showed him the magic of what the runes mean and how to like why they put them On the shields like this will this is a a spell protecting you or this will you know uh give you bravery or this will help your sword Swing
Swing uh you know more accurately and so I I just I think there's something about with the Egyptians and just with that mystery of sound to me that that that is 100% it also seems achievable it's like a theory that makes sense have you watched sand On a metal plate when when when when they play a frequency have you watched the beautiful shapes that sand makes when you play frequency y have you thought about the fact that in the Bible when they talk about the walls of Jericho come down the you're talking about what was
it like 20 I forgot how how thick the stones were but do you realize that they talk about the people outside that broke the walls of Jericho down were just like Playing horns that's insane how did you how do you go from cson how do you go from Apollo Theater rap devil like [ __ ] yeah those are such wide different whatever whatever you know like that like I'm I'm trying to put a mark in time of like of of like Cleveland's own fully tatted going crazy machine gun rapid fire you know beats to this
now awakened enlightened individual what was the what was the kind of inflection point where That started there's a big difference between that's that's actually very weird that's a good point I you never thought about that no were you a manifestor like I was with you the other night outside the I'll talk about the story that happened we were outside a Cleveland Hot Spot called Town Hall the other night just having just a conversation you're very very excited about your current trajectory about Lonely Road you know Your new single with jelly roll and you're like yo
I think this is uh I think there's a good chance this could be my first overall number one and potentially even a Grammy people are really digging it loving it and I I could see it in you like I could really see that you believed in it you loved it you love your current like where you're at right now and is soon as you finished that sentence the song came on it was it was instantaneous and we just both Looked at each other and and it was like one of those manifesting Universal moments whereas someone
like me I'm still in your 2011 body I need to be I need to be convinced of this type of [ __ ] I need to be convinced that that that this disillusionment is not a thing that magic does exist in this world if you if you believe in it and you're able to manifest it I need those evidence points from you but were they always in you 2011 who was your favorite rapper growing up DMX right after that I was in the studio At DMX they said DMX doesn't get in the studio with anybody
DMX came to my studio we stayed up till 9:00 in the morning went to Denny's in the morning after the studio session I've done that with you before yeah it wasn't after studio session late you are not DMX ear morning I'm just saying no you know appreciate the early morning breakfast yeah come on Bro we went to that one breakfast spot yeah sick but no no your your your life has unfolded in a crazy way not to not to hijack your answer but but I'm gonna well unless you had more to more to say I
mean like it sounds like you're talking about manifestation of of just how your life has changed but as someone who also grew up in Cleveland and has watched the different chapters of your career literally since the beginning bro I'm talking about like you inspired me and Jake to have a meet up at Strongsville Mall cuz you did that as well and shut down Strongsville Mall my I remember my cousin MGK's from Cleveland I'm a wild boy we we were going crazy to your [ __ ] and then you just keep getting more and more famous
and and and and so were we and it was cool to kind of like see another kid from Cleveland just just like just making it and just and just being an Artist and in I'm getting somewhere with this it's going to take a second in that same clip where you talked about radiating you talked about having that ego death you also talked about and came to terms with what what I perceived as you just being an artist and and you're kind of up for interpretation and and and and otherwise if everyone would just always liked
you all the time like that's boring there's no story there and I've seen from day one damn near the Different chapters of your life up until you even buying my house bro like we like like like like the paths have intersected and it's been so cool and I remember one day at your Christmas concert uh man this had to be four or five years ago you you were you were rapping still you hadn't made the the rock star shift and someone said one of your boys was like he's hyping you hyping you up he's like
he's the greatest Rockstar of Our Generation I'm Watching you do these [ __ ] dance moves play guitar throw the microphone 50 feet in the air catch it behind your back I'm like yo this [ __ ] might be a rock star why how's he's rapping but I think he's a rock star and then you made that transition into rock and you [ __ ] crushed it and everyone at the same time was like oh he's a he is a rock star and everyone started to like wake up to this new version of you and
then you had uh Uh uh this brand new relationship and now recently the blacked out tattoos I know I covered a lot of ground there but it's like you really are an artist to the core bro and your life is just like chapter after chapter and as a fan it's so cool to see you evolve you're very good at evolving but the impetus of what I'm saying is it doesn't sound like for you you really had that like conscious shift where you were like this is it I'm I'm I'm doing Rock now but but it
but It's but it seemed like that's when this next level MGK was reached at least my opinion from a fan I know like in a in a Heart Reading before they said in 2012 that I was supposed to that was the year I was supposed to be as big as I am now but I blocked like I blocked that blessing and it's ironic cuz 2012 was the year that I had got signed and to put out you know my first record and that's when wild boy was going crazy and like there was a potential for
me if I If I wouldn't have blocked that blessing how did I block my blessing uh uppers and downers MH uppers and downers dude and drowning myself in Jameson Whiskey over and over again and making sure that I was positive everyone wanted to see another Recreation of all of the 2000s rock stars and I include rappers in that too right which was just like attitude and like the MTV era where you could like play a character and that resonated But that wasn't who I am like I'm a honestly I'm I'm I'm a very shy dude
but my defense is so high because the offense seems always so against me it's like when I was in the ring yesterday uh just just coming to say what's up to Logan and and see what we could work out for the show and I saw Randy Orton and I remember seeing Randy Orton you know talk [ __ ] about me and I was Like you know I I there's a point where I'm like I'm going to practice like a new version of myself and then at 3 2 1 I'm like [ __ ] that hey
man [ __ ] you wait really yeah you didn't I I don't know where you were but all my I remember all my boys were sitting there like oh no oh no what happed is this real what is this part of the script I don't know what's happening but I I I it's the the the am the amount of people That pin me as the aggressor in every situation that I'm in are so wrong like I I do nothing but commit myself to Art and the and there's another funny factor of just like the art
of me standing or existing makes people furious and I saw one of them I I don't one the Strickland one I don't know this guy from a crumb of bread right I I didn't know who he was when I met him I got hip afterward that he's like insanely racist and homophobic and just not my type of guy So I would have never even wanted to shake hands with him in the first place but he also is just a representative of every person who's too scared to just be themselves because if you're comfortable as yourself
you don't care who anybody else is and how they are a agreed I I had I met him that night too and I had my I can't say anything bad because my experience was vastly different because I'm not you and he didn't have a visceral reaction we shook hands it was Very cordial we talked for like five minutes and I walked away but I know of everything that he exists as on Twitter and he he fits very nicely into that community of of exactly what you just said which is kind of intolerance and just and
just desire to spew hatred he's so dumb that I'm going to tell him right now you should not keep saying stuff because it just makes me look better but you're going to keep saying stuff so I know that you'll react and say more Things but you're you just shouldn't as as a person who's just giving you big bro advice learn this shut the [ __ ] up and don't don't speak on me anymore and live your life but you won't and I'm going to continue laughing at you because you're a [ __ ] idiot I
just felt bad for dingo dingo's an idiot dingoo introduce dingo introduce them it's a rap it's a r it's a rap the fans okay no go you going to say something no The fans the than the thanks yeah I I I approached you yesterday had an amethyst crystal in your hand yeah I saw it immediately connected I love amethyst it's the one Crystal I like actually like really resonate towards when Crystal hunting had the whole conversation I noticed your fangs they're real yeah the fangs are real yeah dude crazy well how'd you commit to that
um you said your boys say say uh I will suck your blood that was hilarious My my my friend called me on FaceTime yesterday and said that like he what's up blood like that bro we uh I went I was just at my dentist who's a good friend of mine um and I had been you know telling him I just I I need my my teeth sharpened and I need fangs added into my mouth um it doesn't affect your speech at all it affects me closing my mouth really I'm an insane grinder when I sleep
and I wake up every single day with a headache Cuz my teeth can't grind and they just like I don't know what they do and it but uh again to me art is art is above life to me like my job is to entertain and my job is Art like I would I would live and die for this that's why when you bring up you know that people were calling me a rock star before I was actually making rock music I and but it somehow made sense it's because you know being a rock star is
Aura it it's it's much bigger than a genre it's lifestyle look at look at Lil Wayne you can't tell me that's not a rock star and when you know I remember when I made the controversial take of that got so many people in the Rock Community mad when I was saying you know all these bands are up there just wearing comfy shoes they got Furious but I was like that does that does piss me off because I'm a person of the people like I'm a I'm I'm for the fans and as a fan I don't
want you to come out and sweatpants I don't want you to be comfy I don't want you to like do what's comfortable for you I want you to come out and entertain the kids and so backlash you know we've been doing this or they have to do this for this many years or it's not about that it's it's about music no the record's about music Go home and listen to the CD I don't care what they're wearing when they make the album yeah but when you're putting on a show it's literally called a show yeah
show what are you going to go to a burlesque show and those people that I've seen some of they put their bodies through some of the most insane flexible positions or things where they're holding their entire bodies up with their elbow and their ribs and their you and you're you're Talking about or or ba ballet dancers they don't have the option of being comfortable so I I I this really all related back to one specific concert where I watched kids get frostbite from sitting this is in Edmonton it was so cold outside and their feet
got wet from the snow which turned into mud which gave people frostbite because they were standing there for so long to See this headliner that I was opening and this person came out like he just woke up out of bed and he was perfectly comfortable but every single person in the crowd was and and they don't get to leave and be like that was that show where he wore that crazy whatever it was and that was so cool he came out and you don't there wasn't you looked like is that him like is this soundcheck
what is this And to me when you saw Axel Rose in the super short shorts or you see Tommy Lee in his Speedos or you see you know Lil Wayne in his truck fit with his pants all the way like the like it it's just about a show so I don't I I don't you you got to miss me with the like but the technicalities the music and it's about that it's like yeah I don't agree with you I think if you're a person of the people you're there to you know impress and put on
an Art show and it's not art to have your feet comfortable but you you also actually became a rock star like it wasn't even just like the way you describe a little I was a rock star when I was on Warp Tour in 2010 right like in 2010 when I was on Ernie Ball stage performing for the 15 people that would stop and watch our show passing between Pierce the Veil and and Taking Back Sunday Taking Back Sunday like for the 15 people that would watch us at a At a truck stage that would fold
out into a little stage for me to stand on I was a rock star then in 2011 when we were loading our drums out of our van and putting it on that stage and covering Blink 182 and then at the same time me wrapping over break your neck by Buster rymes instrumental like I was a rock star then me coming out with the 6in Mohawk at the same time that I had a huge RPP record with wild boy I was a rock star Then the the the this is just it's a uh for for whatever
reason dude I'm I I'm I'm I've been chosen to just be on the cross and getting stabbed I disagree I I dis agree um I think I don't want to say you're you're polarizing but I think you're a certain flavor of ice cream that people really [ __ ] love and maybe some people just don't but but the thing that it always comes back to for an artist like you is Your art you're undeniably great bro and and and and I get reminded of this every once in a while like that that um a pistolero
you uh uh like Freestyle you just like did on the cusp yeah actually in front of the eucalyptus tree in the backyard there was like the reason that I bought that house that's why I bought that house too no [ __ ] way the eucalyptus tree yeah wait actually dog I walked into the back of this house the person Is like oh the owner of this house says you've been here before and I'm like it is weird cuz it's really familiar I looked at this tree yeah and I said I'll take the house yep I
you sent me a selfie you said I think I'll buy your house sir yes and I was like dude this is perfect oh my God the tree it was the conversation pit it was the tree and then the conversation pit was next you're an idiot you did not have to you did not have to suffer you did not have To suffer I was right was right everyone talks so much that was Agony bro jackhammers at 600 in the morning weeks on EG bro and and we use that thing maybe like twice I know you use
it all bro yesterday I was like go Coulson do you ever use the conversation pit and he lit up he's like dude I've had the deepest conversations there 3 a.m. it makes me so happy cuz my roommates my friends you guys toasted me and also we never used it I even didn't Really like it that much it was the color that you guys chose you had like gray suede he made so many bro have you seen what he's done with the house I have what what do you call it again the ches hour Cottage that's
amazing that's amazing but yeah the tree was incredible it's why it's like and anyways pistolero this freestyle you're doing in front of their cuz cuz the other thing is bro you you play the instruments as well which is kind of like a lost start more than One like all of them and and and and and your flow live or seeing it like no Cuts or anything is just incredible so so while people I don't I don't know I think but people then go oh but the NPC isn't plugged in that was one of the that
was that was where the comments went they it was so it was so good the WAP was so clean the the vibe was so clean they went I but the NPC isn't plugged in it's an NPC live 2o my friends there is a portable Speaker and it's called batteries there is no plugs needed they NPCs that's why they're saying you are an NP that was people are going to try to discredit I know but I know the it all boils down in one rout and I'm sure you'll agree with this it's white hip hop oh
come when you come on in white hip hop you are automatically discredited you are automatically put on the cross that he described earlier you are automatically a culture stealer Appropriator whatever the [ __ ] it's going to be you know what I'm saying and he's had to battle that the whole time I won't deny that there is a there is a subconscious stigma around that being white in Hip Hop it is like and it's almost to me it's so funny because the streets [ __ ] with me so tough it's honestly from other white people
that give me the most [ __ ] it always is so like is Um that and then the the crazy thing is is there's only been one who's done it y there's only been one who's done it and and and crossed that line of we accept acceptance yep and so shot up Vanilla Ice you EX my boy B Winkle um and so I think you know that is that's that's that's that's the goal and you know to me I I I cross that but you know to always up for conversation and you know that that's
a that's a um Reality that gives me hunger that I need to to continue but also that at that going at the end of the day like it almost doesn't it I'm sure it matters so much to you but like to someone like me or to a lot of the fans it's like then you bring out you you you drop tickets to my downfall and like for me I'm listening to that for the first time I'm like dude what the [ __ ] what am I every workout I'm in the gym bro every I'm like
wait This is a s this is an award-winning single song next song comes on this is a war jawbreakers songs that people just bypass almost like end of theum album type [ __ ] I'm hitting you up I'm like yo can I put this in the back of my YouTube video this is my favorite [ __ ] song just brought on a whole new genre now we didn't even talk about this yet Little Country twang with with jelly roll and lonely road you you're able to just keep kind Of Reinventing and evolving into these new
genres I I want to actually I want to hear a little bit about the jelly roll collab because it's like the biggest thing in your life right now I would say one of them right like how did that I got the pleasure of meeting Ro last night he's potentially one of the sweetest most positive incredible people uh both in the personality that he that he puts out Online in legislature for addiction and and and the way he speaks about that Community but also in real life I mean meeting him last night was incredible what what
has that experience been like for you my my my favorite time I've had with him was going to the uh to the juvenile that he was locked up in um me and him went there I walked in immediately the officer that had locked him up was the officer there And so he's telling me all these stories about jelly I love this one story where he was like man I locked jelly up one time and he was in that cell right there and he just wouldn't talk for days and then I just went up to him
and was like you know what's wrong Bubba and he was like man I just missed my mama and the jelly that you know now but then sitting in those you know in those in those cells With all the kids and imagining 15 16 17 18y old jelly in there the the the inspirational kind of that feeling of watching this man now smiling wearing all these diamonds being the man seeing you know the kinship between him and that officer now seeing the respect that all the kids have for him I mean it was it was an
outer body experience because that's how a lot of people are when they Come with me to Cleveland right and they're always like man this just City just loves you so much I just don't get what and and so I got to experience that with jelly and and jell is even more intense just because of his prison sense right and so and then we just went into the different pods and I just whooped all the kids asses on Spades my bad but uh uh what about the project the the song I mean that was one you
know when we I was in the back of a pickup truck With baz uh Charlie hansome who's a who's a a really big producer especially in the country World um we were at Jeff basser's house Jeff basker is a produc he did like [ __ ] he's he's the drum he's a drum God right he did like he's the reason why uh I don't know if it was yeus or beautiful dark twist he was the reason why those drums sounded the way they did it was yeesus right yeah those those drums which my God like
those that was that Was that was that basker sound sound and so um we were up there recording and we were he was like you guys want to go to the beach we're like yeah let's just get out the studio for a little bit and we just hopped on the back of a pickup truck and we're riding down the road and we were like man there's no one out here or whatever and you know be just starts going Country Road and then it just for whatever Reason because there was no one out there we were
just like Lonely Road take me home and we got to the beach and we were like hey remember that we were just doing all the pick up that was kind of fire like should we try that so we went to the back to the studio we we did it uh and when I say we did it we did like four lines or something and then moved on to another song I knew there was something really special there but that song is Also one of the great like Country Roads is one of the greatest songs it's
incredible all we we have jammed out to that song for years to the highest degree at the craziest moments it's never not a bad time to play that song which is why I was so precious with it which is why I took two years changing the key so many times going for a frequency that would resonate when you hear it right so like At first my voice is really low it's Very bar tone so like I would the keys were lower it would be F SHP or it would you know I was just going for
Lower Keys and it never when every time it came on I'd be like and I kept pushing for it pushing for it it and then you know jelly and I had a kinship cuz me and him used to beef we didn't [ __ ] with each other at all this is like 12 years ago or something like that and uh we had become friends and he and I at the same time During the tickets to my downfall you know he and I had talked and he was like dude I'm really inspired by you doing this
like I'm going to tap into to Country like where my roots are from like that this this feels right this you kind of open this whole door up and I was like okay jelly would be great for the song I wouldn't tell him though because he's a country dude and I didn't want to tell anybody that I was flipping Country Roads cuz they would be like [ __ ] off not doing it so anyway I worked the guitar over and over again because I was like I can't come out with this country it can't be
it can't be like blatant country now it's funny cuz Post in the past two while I was doing Lonely Road Post did this and so the whole time I'm thinking I'm like [ __ ] people are going to [ __ ] say that I'm just dig following and I had to like hum sit there while while for years I've been curating this Song like knowing that I'm going to get like there's I'm going to have to fight against something here but um I'm in the car with jelly after the Grammys right we both lost the
Grammys and I know he's feeling down or whatever so I call him I'm like where you at he's like man I'm you know I'm rolling over here like come me so I I go meet him uh he and I get in his car which is so funny he's driving himself I'm like you drove yourself to the Grammys dude he's like man I'm so white trash I can't [ __ ] I can't get it out of me man like street parking dude we were parallel parking we were pulling up to parties like looking for parking spots
and he's and he's the biggest Act of the night you know besides like Taylor Swift or you know like we were just like so um and this is true like it's so funny I I we rode by the chatau and I was like oh there's a big line there there's Probably a party we should go there dude we were up and down the street we parked far as [ __ ] like yeah I was like we could just valet he's like n we'll park this up here but like um he ain't changed at all at
all and so I'm in the car with them when I get the ox cord and dude that same thing like that took over when it told me to black out my tattoos or when it told me like tickets to my downfall is the is is the name like when like those moments of when The Universe Telling you something it told me play lonely road like the demo of lonely road I pressed play and he was like what the [ __ ] is this and I was like man it's just it's just calling you and he
was like I'm on it s and then he got on it and then I made him recut it 8,000 more times because I was so precious with the Country Roads flip and we were doing it in different keys and then yeah I mean dude I I I just want people to know I really really was cautious with the way That we flipped it and I also didn't want to make it an American landscape song like how like he just how John Denver like you know speaks on the Chattanooga and all all these just beautiful thing
like he already did that so I needed to make it my own and I think the way that I did it it can you know I explain this a little bit in the video I posted but it's it's not a heartbreak song it's a it's a conversation with yourself like None of it is like to your partner which it it comes across like you're talking to someone but it's all like talking to yourself so if you go back and listen to it from that perspective it's actually really cool dude did you ever have a rat
problem with the house I dude you say that and I'm stressing bro cuz like I don't know if it's like I thought you were joking no I go yesterday I go you knew about this I go did you ever figure out the rats he Goes didn't know about that and I go oh then you're probably good I have three cats that are absolutely oh you're chilling Savage you're chilling dud I've seen my cat like that one of my Bengals and and Tommy I have to call Tommy Lee and and and Britney all the time for
their bird fixer person because my cats snatch birds out the air no way like it's like it's uh Buck Hunter have you noticed them getting any fatter off all the rats no this he said There's no rats anymore cu the cat killed them all the cats killed them all that dude had a rat crawl in the window and land on his face while he was sleeping woke up to a rat on his face yeah that's true it traumatized changes life you got to look up like Native American meanings of what that means or something like
something like in indigenous and see what the meaning is because there's probably something either it's like you're G to It that might be why you're successful in art it might be like you're going to this this means financial success is coming to you exactly what it means Mac when a rat crawls on your feet do do you record bangers in that studio you use I do I do I recorded El pisolo in there let's [ __ ] go I recorded I recorded my final vocals of lonely Ro in that house dude I'm so glad you
got that house cuz you're using it the right way like why did I make a Studio dude I'm not doing what I doing you did perfect because it was it was it was all lined up we got to keep it there and you know why we have to protect that why we have to keep it we have to keep it because of that tree like I don't trust that someone will get that house and be like get this tree out of here that tree uprooted a lot of [ __ ] sidewalks dude I D I
had to do maintenance on it cuz it's like Ro have a have a tree doctor check it out like Regularly oh yeah the it's fine but I did have to you'll notice I had to cut some branches because uh you have to to save the tree you're probably good for another 5 10 years okay but um yeah dude the fact that that you and Megan got the house is yeah does does La still did you fall in love with Los Angeles is that why you're there are you there for work or are you one of
the people cuz for me dude when I went there for the first time I said I've never Been anywhere like this before I think I'm going to be here forever it really like grabbed me and obviously over theast as we talked about privately we don't have to get into specifics but over the past three to five years it's it's been getting it's been having some problems there's been some issues there and it's been also getting a really bad rap from the general public do do you still love La uh I like my house here in
Cleveland A lot more I like I I like here is like here is always my favorite place and I don't say that because it's the it's the right thing to say I say because I mean it but I don't like La anymore because I don't do cocaine you're right it seems so hard to evolve as a human in that City it's almost it's almost like I loved when I went to LA and would run the strip like I loved Being on Sunset I loved the lure of what of how every rock star pivotal pop culture
how you know Elton John was in this room and then would go and write Rocket Man I loved how you know it just I mean even me as playing Tommy Lee in The mly Crew movie just God just I forgot you're a [ __ ] actor too Bird Box birx bro I M in these movies I'm like what fantas thank you man dog [ __ ] we don't Have enough time with this guy that yeah I love the strip that my that my point with that was I I love the strip and the food is
good the food is they good Michelin star restaurants did you did you always feel the way I did that La even though it's like the sunniest warmest place it just has an innate darkness in it it's the darkest place the it's it's it's it's the city of Lost Angels dude it's absolutely the most I've watched people get sucked up and Watch their cheeks get sucked in and look like they are ghouls and goblins now and I was like yo you were just a human yeah last time I saw you and then I would realize you
know me and slim and all the boys fell out for for a while just because of you know my addiction problems and they were like who are these people that you kick it with and then I started realizing like dude I don't ever see see you before 11:30 p.m. and also like what I don't know your job What do you do and then also I don't know your name for real you know and like I would be having just like the longest conversations or just nice whatever just JS moving like you know 5 a.m. Afterparty
La comos I I played the I played tickets to my downfall for I mean dude a thousand people that I will never see again in my you know what I mean where and then I see now when I go back out if I'm ever Out I'm just I just I'm like I feel like a parent or something it's also not the it's also not the same it's not the I remember it was cool it was cool was a there was a scene there was I feel I feel like when when we actually first met we
went to a damble Halloween party I feel like that was like a solid time in o no that was maxed out that was like right for Our Generation I agree I Think that was like the version of uh you know the Steve McQueen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yeah Leonardo Di Caprio character playing whatever his character was in that movie like that was that was like that it was like the Playboy Mansion or something that was that version of going and seeing being like holy [ __ ] this is what this is what they
talked about my favorites though was at on the Rocks Above the rocksy where where John lennin and John balushi and you know uh [ __ ] I'm I'm I'm blanking um but all all those guys in the 70s they would live there like I think when JN and Yoko broke up like I think JN lived in that room which is in the hidden room where we would just go and well that was always do blow all the time you know like your type of vibe I love I love dude I'm I love Dive Bar cultured
do the Chand the crystals and The chandelier in that room the amount of [ __ ] those crystals have seen and it was honestly like everyone just went whether they were painters singers models whatever it felt so like Andy Warhol in that room right it felt so like it was everyone you know did something or it was I I loved that scene and that was where I would play a lot of my records that ended up blowing was I would you know I would you you could hop you could go there and you could see
MGK DJing and like hear like brand new songs while in the mix of also listening to like The Killers or whatever new hot rap [ __ ] is going on or whatever like [Music] um yeah I love I liked the balance between being able to go and see like oh this is our version of like the Playboy mansion and then going and seeing like just all the scene kids you well that that area of the strip like that Viper Room room like that that area is like The the cool spot that's where to did his
what his 40th birthday at Roxy right yeah I got a question that I don't want to come off disrespectful and I want no I just want to ask it the right way um you're icing them it's like the iasa ceremony all over all right all right look so like okay um when when you started dating Megan Fox uhhuh was there a part of that was like damn I'm I'm dating the girl from Transformers Megan Fox and like I just achieved the dream of every single guy in the world cuz cuz because you you understand every
kid growing up Megan Fox was it the hood open on the car in the Transformers movie that's a scene that they always use I have a wife yeah I think H bro like I know you were stoked admit it be cson for a second I'm Logan I'm cson I'm I'm Logan you're cson and you yeah come on bro come on you did it Bro you did it I'm proud of you dude that's crazy I went to uh my friend rook and I was like man they offered me this like really small movie part in what
is probably going to be a shitty movie but Megan is in it and he was like if you don't get on that [ __ ] [ __ ] playing right now and go meet your future wife like go do that and I was yeah I mean that was that the that the script did not sell me on that movie Yeah and something just like aaska the way that it calls you there was something calling me to go do that and uh that was where I met my you know that was where my one that's crazy
man but I I mean I also to be candid I went to the Tower City movie theater and saw Transformers for the first time here and I walked out and I was obviously massively in love so you're correct Full Circle Dude also also not to just keep intertwining Paths you guys proposed in my neighborhood in Puerto Rico that was wild down the street for me at at the tree in front of the spa yeah he texted me right after I was like the tree in front of the spot with the cobblestones at the Ritz yes
the best in the world by the way oh are you here did you you left it's a it's a banon tree it's a it is a banon tree well that is that's a very special place dude how did you how did you Scout That why did you why did you do it there why did you do that banion trees to us I mean they they stand yeah you should go look up the what banion tree symbolize it's really actually it's probably the most epic tree that exists and I know also so the banon tree is
just for fans of you know movies like Avatar that the the the tree of life is inspired by a banion tree when which me and her went and visited that was actually one like off the coast Of Bora Bora that James Cera went to um and that one's really tucked like we like we went exploring and they told us where we could find it and we were just driving up this muddy pathway we get out and we're walking through like this just just just bushes there's no buildings there's no licsense there nothing and then this
dude in a like a Cloth go sees us and goes and we were like th this is a movie happening right now walked he like on some Lion King [ __ ] remember when they when when they when Simba is lost and like Timone and Pumba like pull the the leaves apart and then Simba like sees and then it goes into the a boy it goes in all the bugs and everything and it just shows why the forest is amazing this happen this dude goes like this Like spreads the branches and leaves or the brush
and inside is this massive beautiful banyan tree and so that that tree has been a through line for us for you know so but but why but why the one in PR like how you just cuz that was where we met that was where we met and that was where a lot of the conversations like had taken place it was it was a very special oh that's right you shot the movie there yeah we Got we got trapped there in Co great place to get trapped I remember that yeah not soad fantastic you guys have
a fantastic place to get trapped that's the best I tell you that's the best spot in the world it is you got you and Megan from what the outside seemed to have just like just really really deep connection it does feel like you guys are like intertwined at the all I'm I'm I'm very happy for you guys is she pregnant or was that like a little like I saw she had a little bump you got to go uh no I want to ask you one question after this but is she is she pregnant or was
that no no that was that was that was a music video that was I mean again that's like I I like to leave a lot of stuff up for interpretation there's a reason behind every single thing that happened in that music video um even with you know I some part of me is like leave art up her interpretation I guess that's where I'll leave it okay cool easy but everything has a meaning so I did want to ask though cuz we we saw and Nina obviously knows of Megan and you and and she's like we
were just so curious cuz my fiance nah is pregnant I'm expecting a daughter in two months I know how much you love your daughter and um you speak so highly of her and just like dude help me like what what what what can I expect dude I'm going to be a girl dad which is which is terrifying but so exciting at The same time and and I'm this next chapter of my life is so close but I it it doesn't I haven't done anything for this my life has not changed at all then all a
sudden I have a daughter yeah so everything that you do from the day that she's conceived to the day that she dies like everything will have an effect on her so always try and watch the tone of your voice always be your pheromones are so important you know Make sure that you keep that girl close to you make sure that you uh you you have a this may me ball my eyes out my my daughter came to me and she was like I just I just needed I just need your hug like there's nothing like
my dad's hug I was just like oh my God start like she she hugg me while she was hugging me I was like damn and that comes from just like years and years of just always giving that Safe Embrace right like you're the first you're the first man she's ever going to be in love with come on bro you're going You're the first man she's ever going to be in love with and so you have this connection with her what no matter what anybody does in her life no matter who she marries or what you
are always going to be the safe place for your daughter and so give her that give give her that love that so Many young girls and grown women out here don't don't get to have yeah and uh [ __ ] you bro and make sure that she doesn't stand around when I'm telling stories and oh oh yeah he said you were you were saying crazy [ __ ] she she kind of she kind of rolled in when I was telling the story roll out when you started no I switched it I switched the story into
a story about respecting your teachers it was not where I started it was still I was Just like it's not where I started hey Uncle Mike I appreciate that bro yeah man yeah I I I said that was the last question I had do have one more yeah yeah I had I have to ask this dude the decision to black out your tattoos was crazy uhhuh first off how long did that take I think like 70 70 hours was it painful it was the most excruciating thing I've ever went into my life it there was
a point where I like gave up and I just felt like I was Just dying like I mean when you have to wake up after six seven hours of it go back and you're talking about 44 needles 21 needles different they just going over and over again and plus my body was already tattooed so essentially you're just tattooing over scar tisue yeah who did it who did it her name's Rox got it I I yeah there was a point on that table where I just was I I felt my body leave my body I was
just like cuz what what Can you do you can't you can't stop you have to finish the job you can't you know I would never in my life like go under you know to like you know go to I was going to say no no numbing so you you have to dude you I just I just gave up and gave my body to the to the gods and was just like all right like Jesus okay so so then this is the the hardest part of this how do you make that decision what in you goes
I'm a I'm a black all these Tattoos on my torso I looked in the mirror one day and I was like this looks like a person who has rewrote himself so many times on his body and just doesn't know who the [ __ ] he is anymore it just looked like straight chaos right my chest was just like I had redone my chest six times dude just just the chest let alone like other places or I just I'll throw this over This or throw this over this I just it just looked like someone who was
completely confused like it it it you're buy right you got to treat this like you're writing a journal or something imagine if you took a journal and you like you know you just kept writing over the same page every day for your for I started getting time I was 13 so I don't I don't know what I don't know what is that 21 Year for for 21 years you just on one page just write different things and then look at that page and then tell me if you're not confused like why didn't you just turn
a page and start over a new thing why didn't you just like why didn't you just space out the lines like that that was how I felt Fair it's sick thank you it's so sick when you did it I was like Bro [ __ ] you it's not done I'm obviously your friend and and just like a fan of of your art but Like you continue to just surprise and impress me I love watching The Journey bro thank you you didn't even touch on 27 club we don't have to but oh [ __ ] or
mg he's a restaurant tour I mean but it's cfee it's fine it's fine and great food at it I came and ate all the food yesterday yeah it was yeah it was it was nice seeing you replace addiction with with food just going full out the way you eat food I watched you I was like this dude's done so many drugs the way You ate food was this is such a absolutely insane this dude like the the cautious bites that you should take the he didn't care his fingers maple syrup everywhere just it was it's
wild it's an experience to watch him e food watch of e food right so that's a thing yeah oh it's crazy uh uh is your coffee shop nearby my coffee shop is right there very close and the food's fantastic want go yeah you want to stop by there real quick yeah I'll be down cuz I need to Grab some coffee or something MGK day as well yeah I think this will be out by then but bro bro Cleveland [ __ ] loves you I'm sorry I'm sorry you got booed because of me last night my
bad dude I I it's I'm an Entertainer it's for the art dude I told you reaction I thought I thought could bring it home I thought those Knuckles would do it that's I don't know whatever I got a lot of props for the knuckles at the club last night oh yeah yeah yeah my boys like I mean You know and and they're they're big big fans of of the you know of what's happening in WWE and they were just like they couldn't say it out loud like in the arena where they're like y I like
those nucks man yeah let's go all right how how was the club last night by the way must have been fun you're an idiot you're an idiot you go out the night that I don't go out and then we I went and did lonely road at every bar possible come on I went and Did that there was a there's a there's a a country bar called the farm and they come over to me and they were like um Haley Welch is over there yeah and uh I'll talk to it yeah and I was like they
were like um what was your reaction to that great well I just I that was how that that's how the thought in my head of oh it's a country bar right and so I was like oh my God we should just we should just run lowly Road tonight like there's nothing better Than when you're breaking a record and you just go and just so I missed the only night that I had you missed a great night SL slim pissed slim was Furious try calling him right now you see he didn't answer the text know I
texted him [ __ ] um I'll make it up no that I I was it was just a good night with the city or whatever but you know I I I don't drink anymore it's my my version of going out is very like much more strategic and that was you know I Was kind of there with the purpose knowing like this is a good night for the city of Cleveland to kind of here lonely roow for the first time yep what is it what month is it August yeah I'm I'm sober officially a year congrats
that's impressive bro yeah thank you it'll really change your life won't it dude it's a good look on you bro your your aura I'm telling you is is like you're you're you're vibing you're high Vib thank as as Kevin was saying and and SM and smiling more than ever too I like even even like when I posted that picture of me and jelly from last night um you have all those like Twitter communities like MGK fans that are just like he's smiling again he's always smiling now he seems so happy rare I guess that that
room last night was was radiating bro like the three of us together just felt cool because like I know it's it's cool to be around people That battle the same demons that I do and like jelly obviously has so much of that I know ingrained in him yeah it's it's that journey is constantly bumpy for me but what do you find the hardest part of it just that itch that never goes away never goes away but I I I agree it's it's a you know it's a it's a good look and and I really just
want to do it for every everybody Who feels like they can't you know cuz I like I really took pride in how UNS sober I was you know that's the Rockstar lifestyle yeah yeah yeah but what was your what was your drug besides all of them but like your main one cocaine Codine yeah yeah cocaine Codine I and I and I liked I I loved I mean you know I love 30s 15s perks like those were that's where I lived those were those were Saucy for Sure like I would take them in the studio and
just rap for days but you know I'll be at the house trying to chill right now getting sober off the alcohol and pills right now on the mic i' been sharpening my skills right now just in case I got to pick it up and kill right now I'm rapping late before I had a deal right now I'm hungry like I never had a meal right now got the blues getting green like it's teal right now can't get out the game like I'm Jordan Peel right now and I'm chilling with LP my shirt's Fred Perry and
the underwear LV my mind's all Gucci and my body is on this mission to the money Big Mike let's get wealthy and I'm in Cleveland right next to where hell with the telescope they couldn't see me I'm stealthy mainstream sellout but can't nobody sell me I made it out myself couldn't nobody help me everything is just like thought all right gangster bro thanks for doing hell Yeah no for sure I want to ask ask finally Gun Kelly ladies bro thanks for coming on it's been a long time since you came and performed live on episode
100 of w wow in the garage of the house that you ended up buying let's go so crazy yep yep yep uh all right that's it ladies and gentlemen thank you for listening watching subscribe we'll see you next time take it easy go stream lonely road right now