1000 Years of Knowledge in 1 Hour - The Gateway Experience (Part 2)

previously on Area 52 investigations so when I had my my out of body experience it was terrifying it was time to head back to Virginia the one main thing I got from the Out of Body Experience is the absolute knowledge that I would transcend uh physical mortality over the next few days we'll be going through a process called entrainment and suddenly I realized that I'm standing behind myself the first one we end up learning is focus 10 they were refer to this as mind awake body asleep and I felt my body lighter than before we

then moved on to Focus 12 which represents a specific state of expanded awareness I sincerely felt like there was a truck driving you know on the property like a Mac Truck I saw myself sitting on this balcony staring out at nature so it looked like this like a scoreboard it's on my mind normally it wouldn't be so somehow you journeyed through at least a part of my my mental bubble and picked up that part this session ladies and gentlemen is about leaving the body if you're interested in being a part of these investigations you can

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body experiences which led me to the Monroe Institute I began the Gateway process and started noticing physiological and psychological symptoms associated with the technology used within the Monro sound science and hearing firsthand accounts of similar outof body experiences from the trainers and participants I realized that my psyche was getting primed for something to happen and just as I thought the week couldn't get any better we were visited by a familiar face Joe mcmonagle remote viewer [Music] 001 what a nice surprise I was going to tell them you know a little intro on What mo is

coming from maybe you want to do yeah remote viewing came about because we found out that the uh Soviets at the time uh they were using a a group of Psychics they basically they released a study that they did on mice to show that psychic could Target the mice then they had to raise their anxiety to a point where it would cause physical harm in other words uh in humans they expected to be able to produce Strokes uh heart attacks high anxiety of the decision making was corrupted to some degree they did that three times

and outside of one house care it work so they leaked that to the west and Congress went if you're interested in hearing more of what Joe was talking about I would suggest checking out our previous investigation on Project Stargate good morning day is it day three day two I guess this is this day two hold on this is day three wow everyone's in agreement time has a way of messing with you while you're here and I think one of the reasons for that is because you're in and out of Consciousness constantly so every time we're

done with a session we wake up we kind of wander around we see each other for the debrief and everybody's like good morning good morning good morning uh so it does feel like I've been here for weeks last night we had an amazing treat we had the one and only Joe mcmonagle show up and talk to to us we started off by actually doing a remote viewing session which wasn't too bad the city of St Louis with like there was the arch there was this giant Stadium which I picked up on so was a pretty

cool session and it was pretty cool watching people try remote viewing for the first time who were there after which Joe proceeded to regail us with some of his amazing Stories um so it was a real joy to watch him and to uh to just be in his presence you you have brought in You' bought into to the entire idea that time and space is real I don't believe that for a second I violate it every day and I don't believe it's real it's a construct and remote viewing is no different that's another form of

construct for time and space so when you use these examples okay in your training or whatever you're going to do with them if you ever do anything with them what you need to do is make sure that you add in we're more than our physical body because that's why I did it that's why you have the films that's why all this is done because people need to understand human beings are magical we have one foot in the in the spiritual and unbelievable magical world and we have the other foot in the harsh realities of physical

life and we blend them and we use them and we're the only animal on this planet that I'm aware of that does that I want people to understand that that's what this whole place is for is so people understand that a single individual I don't care what their background is their education their culture their country their City I don't care what about any of that we all have individual power that is immense [Music] right now breakfast is going on so I'm going to go catch that and then we're going to get ready for session number

one oh yeah and no weird dreams nothing to report on the out of body my name is sea web and I'm a human mind and Consciousness researcher and uh my goal is to increase happiness in the world you know the whole path of me wanting to help educate people about their mind and their Consciousness came accidentally when I had a Consciousness expansion experience of my own a couple of decades ago that blew my mind I mean it it was like take everything you know about human life and your existence and throw it out the window

and it's all meaningless and uh here's the reality of the universe as it's dumped into your psyche The Experience seemed like it lasted thousands of years like I was gone I was gone so long in within an hour time span because this happened within a natural and um meditation induced experience no drugs no drugs no psychedelics at all I had read a book on DT Suzuki introduction to Zen and I heard him talking about I read him talking about the idea of Satori and ceasing conscious thought and the function of Zen was to Simply cease

conscious thought and listen to what existed beyond that uh because cuz I was had this financial success previously and then I was like I still wasn't happy I bought a house and a speedboat and classic car and all the trappings and then I looked out upon the second lot that I had and I was like well let me put a gazebo over there with some sound speakers and I was like wait a second I just closed on a house at the age of 27 in Atlanta Georgia not a cheap house all by myself after 10

years of being in poverty I was came off of food stamps 10 years previous to that so I have this American success uccess story The American Dream and I'm already figuring out what I need to to add to get happiness and so that just didn't jive with me so then it kind of drove me into a okay what am I missing internally because I'm going to be chasing this thing for the rest of my life if I keep adding stuff and then needing to add more yeah and so that's when I started the whole um

spiritual introspection about 3 or four weeks into meditation failing you know falling asleep and waking up after my nap after I started Med meditation um I focused on ceasing conscious thought and about 20 minutes into that one particular meditation um it started a whole amazing science fiction story of experience where I was sucked into this Vortex of energy went off into the middle of the universe met this unconditionally loving entity that seemed like it was God it explained everything in the universe I understood how all the multi-dimensionality worked I saw the chemical reactions down at

the micro level of energy exchange and the Field opening up and releasing heat and light and yada y y and some beautiful structures and understood everything went off and lived multiple lives experienced all kinds of trials and tribulations and challenges and triumphs and was gone so long that I forgot that I was a human named Shawn and I thought I was dead I thought I was off and you know oh this is heaven okay so I'm hanging out with God and this is okay so this is real and okay this is cool I can deal

with this this is awesome because it's amazing it's all made of love and the whole universe is all one and it's there's nothing to fear everything's perfect then there came a point where it was like okay well you got to go back and I was like go back what are you talking about go back and they're like well you got to go back and be human and I was like oh so I have a responsibility maybe to be human all right so that's cool so I'll go back and be a human baby I guess I'll

sign up for that you know maybe with what I've learned I can live a better life and help people more and whatever and then I realized as I'm coming back towards Earth uh I'm coming back to my H like I see my house and I see my body on my bed and I'm like no as I'm coming back towards Earth coming back towards my body I'm losing all the understanding that I knew about how the universe worked like all of the answers to everything black secrets of black holes and all that stuff is out there

you have access to it but we can't hold it in here we're pretty stupid as humans and so I was like you can't just show me this and then put me back into this body I'm I'm going to be done I don't want to do this anymore and then I said why right well what do you want and I said well let's knock out this pain and suffering thing and the immediate response I got was a kind of a joke it was well you want the first you sure you want to do that and I

got visions of like Jesus and Muhammad and Buddha and all the previous folks who tried and I wouldn't say failed like I wouldn't want to call those folks failures at all because they succeeded but at the same time it's like what what are we done with their messages so then I got a download during those last moments of how the process of pain and suffering in the human psyche works I unpacked this over a number of years and write a couple of books and it turns out that the model that I put together on explaining

the process of human emotions and how they come to be no one had published that before for I called Ros Mard and MIT and I said here's my model you know tell me what book I missed so she's the person who wrote the book on Effective computing which is the logical explanation of emotions trying to figure out how to get computers to do emotions and she said uh no this is brand new and you are the person who figured this out that moment sent me on a brand new path it was like okay I need

to be I need to figure out how what I tapped into because from a pragmatic perspective you know I'm like you in that I have a skeptical mind how does this work how does this really work what's the physics behind the magic that's really going on here so at the point that I had gone off without leaving my bed to have an experience seemingly somewhere else to the point that I'd forgotten that I was human came back with an understanding that I had no qualifications of having now I'm this person who came up with this

model to explain process of pain and suffering the human mind that jived with all what the ancient Masters had said in their esoteric writings Etc yet also jived with the science of what Neuroscience was telling us and psychological Sciences was was telling us where did I get that where did that come from because if I can do it anybody can do it right had some breakfast and had our morning meeting we are now going into something called Focus 15 they didn't give us any more information about that and they're like go Discover it let the

frequency play and and be curious and see how you feel in that state now Focus 15 is where it gets interesting it represents a state of quote unquote No Time where you experience a deep sense of timelessness and disconnection from the usual flow of time the normal perception of time past present and future dissolves you experience a state where time feels irrelevant allowing you to explore Consciousness without the constraints of linear time this state is characterized by profound inner Stillness and quiet your mind becomes extremely Calm making it easier to access deeper levels of awareness

and insight without the constraints of time you can explore past experiences gain insight into future possibilities and understand the continuity of your Consciousness the state can also help you connect with higher aspects of your Consciousness facilitating Spiritual Development and a deeper sense of purpose that was fun um focus 15 felt nice I feel like I lost track of time during Focus 15 I feel like I might have clicked out I might have I def I definitely feel like time wasn't a factor I know that's hard to grasp it's even hard for me to even hear

myself say it so I don't fully know what happened but we're going to go to the debrief and they're going to explain to us what Focus 15 was all about it becomes very nebulous when you're in these states you know you're in and out of dream Consciousness and they're taking time away as well so it's like I don't exactly know what's going on and and like I said this morning my experience of time has already been altered it's been strange we just had our debrief and turns out what I was doing was pretty much what

was intended it's a giant Dark Void and if you don't intend to do anything during that meditation time you will probably drift off okay the last two sessions we had back-to-back sessions there were Parts where I was like in a deep state where I heard myself snore I was literally listening to myself snore and observing myself which was interesting but ultimately I think I just clicked out I fell asleep and uh woke up near the end of it so nothing much to report I know much time cuz they're waiting for me here although I may

not end up leaving my body while I'm here I'm learning to enjoy meditating which is something I never really did or understood so I'm thankful to have the opportunity to learn uh that I can do this too cuz it was always quite daunting and I always felt like a bit of an impostor while doing it but uh it feels pretty good so thankful for that and we are back fell asleep it was clear to me by now that I was putting a lot of pressure on myself and to take some of that pressure off that

night we decided to go Sky watching as my friend Ryan bledo calls it basically looking up at the sky to see if we can notice any anomalous activity which we notice quite a bit of actually Ryan's got an interesting story his father put out a bestselling book titled UFO of God where he recounts some of the most compelling encounters with not only crafts but entities in fact it was so compelling that it caught the eye and ears of the intelligence community so Chris the CIA is studying you NASA is studying you you can summon alien

orbs well um it it's it's it's been happening this book for me was groundbreaking I highly suggest you guys go check it out but more than that I also suggest you guys check out Ryan's podcast bled so said so ever since reading the book I've been listening to Ryan talk about these things that have been happening to him and his family and I couldn't pass up the opportunity to ask him about it while I was there at the Monroe Institute and looking back I don't think us being there at the same time was a chance

encounter at all my name is Ryan bledo I'm the host of the bledo Seto podcast I'm probably more readily recognized by my father's book UFO of God um he's sort of a well-known UFO paranormal experiencer um out there in the in the this realm of things you know I just started having these experiences at 13 years old and I kind of made it my life's mission to try to raise awareness about it to as many people as possible so doing the podcast I kind of treat it as a metad documentary is what I've always seen

it in my mind where we'll have episodes where we do deep Dives on certain esoteric topics or uh pop culture symbolism things like that and then we'll do episodes where it's more or less Canon where we're talking about the story and digesting a lot of these um heavier topics meta documentary is a really good way to put it yeah cuz you know after reading your father's book it's kind of like a spin-off for me you know someone who's like well what's next and then I get to see you know you uh get out there and

sort of you know follow in your Father's Footsteps so to speak what brings you to the Monroe Institute yeah so about two years ago my dad started he had a manager and his manager is on the board at Monroe and he's um sort of like an ex intelligence guy so he has some connections in that field and just had the idea um let's let's get your family to Monroe let's let's go to this exclusive UAP UFO Retreat that was held for um I mean I didn't meet everybody that was there but it was a small

group of people in the space so I declined to go which I regret because because at the time I had just started the podcast and I was afraid that if I went that I wouldn't be able to speak about it at all you know it's kind of unique what's happening here with us being allowed to go and document it and that's never happened so I declined unfortunately and my father and my sister ended up being the only ones going and they had a life-changing experience yeah so ever since we've had a relationship with Monroe dad

put him in the last chapter of his book um and we just love The Institute and what they're about and I started doing my own research and having my sister on to tell her story and and uh next thing you know they're just inviting me to come and I I couldn't it was an offer I couldn't refuse I went down the road of learning how to remote view went down the road of being hypnotized for Life between life sessions now I'm here and there's the you know obviously there's the UAP UFO thing as well there's

clearly an overlap right here uh between everything it's these things aren't isolated incidents they're they're all connected mhm you have a unique take on it because of Faith at you and your father um and that is something that you don't come across readily in this environment do you want to speak to how maybe just touch on how you see it all being connected sure yeah um you know when we say faith to me Faith implies um a lack of knowing or tangible experience it's it's the idea that you don't have proof of something but you

still choose to believe but my dad and I and and our family we we we like to talk about it more as a knowing you know when you experience something so many times thousands of times um and and have tangible you know experiences that it goes beyond faith or belief it's a knowing and we know that this thing is real um and thankfully we have had the opportunity to demonstrate it to people and kind of prove that it was real so um beyond that though because of what I've experienced and the way that I've seen

them interact countless times I've just come to find that everything in in this is is Under the Umbrella of spiritual we're alive we have a body we have a brain we have thoughts we have a mind but what about when we don't have the body right do we still have the Mind do we still have the thoughts we still have the experience do we still keep going right it's like what Bob and R says you're you're more than your physical body and um I think everything in that umbrella whether it's beings coming from another dimension

well if they're not physical how are they living you know are are are they are they vibrational are they frequency are they light are they I don't know what they are but um to me that's spiritual the existence of something that doesn't require a physical body something I've seen many times you know beings walk through walls or step out of an orb or you know just do crazy things and we've just come to understand over the years that it's all related to Consciousness it's all related to our perception um the bigger question about things you

know life after death and and the mysteries about all of this the universe and why we're here how do we get here what does it all matter you know it's all spiritual to me I can't even imagine how profound you know that feeling is that you share with your father your sister family I think what you're describing you know is what a lot of people are looking for right it's what a lot of people are seeking it's that void that they want filled as someone who's quote unquote had that void filled what would you say

to those people behind this reality is ineffable it's beyond what we can truly fathom and all we can really do is just uh let go of trying to understand it have that humility in our heart and keep the intention that you'll be guided towards the truth whatever that may be and um you know it wouldn't hurt to go outside and and in the night sky and and look up and and just say to the heavens hey I mean if you're willing I'd really like to see I think people will be shocked what [Music] happens and

finally this is focus 21 Focus 21 is an advanced State of Consciousness identified by the Monroe Institute representing the edge of time and space it is often described as the bridge to other dimensions and higher planes of existence in Focus 21 you go beyond the constraints of both time and space experiencing a state where you are no longer bound by the physical world this state is often perceived as the boundary or the gateway to other realities Focus 21 allows you to perceive and interact with other dimensions spiritual Realms and non-physical entities you might encounter guides

higher aspects of yourself or other Consciousness existing in these realms this state is conductive to deep spiritual insights transformative experiences and a greater understanding of your place in the larger Cosmos it can facilitate profound personal and spiritual growth in Focus 21 you'll do things like exploring other dimensions communicating with non-physical entities it's a state that transcends the physical world and the state is often seen as the gateway to even higher levels of consciousness day 4 is it day four it is it's like 1:00 p.m. we had a silent morning that's why I couldn't check in

with you guys we had to actually not speak for I don't know how many hours but basically we did all the sorry I'm just kind of like I'll tell you when you get out of these things your mind is a bit mushed they even tell us like avoid driving if you have to drive do not drive anywhere and I was like what do you mean and they're like cuz you'll see you're like kind of like zoned out all the time and that's exactly what I'm feeling I've never felt this before so I'm still kind of

getting used to it this meditation was really really cool for me they were playing some frequencies that they said would alter uh our frequency of our being or whatever and I felt it it was very strange I felt light as a feather at one point and I thought to myself ooh this might be it this might be you know obviously didn't happen but I am uh the dreams that I'm having at night and the visions that I'm having during the meditations are becoming more Vivid I don't know if that's due to practice or if that's

I don't know but it's getting stronger I can tell you that I also want to say since I've got here I've connected with a lot of people those connections are were immediately very strong I felt like I knew a lot of these people already it's just so cool when you're in this space because it's an ego free judgment free zone where you're allowed to you know get personal you're allowed to share your deeper most inner thoughts and no one saying oh you sound crazy you know the discussions we had lasted till 2 A.M every morning

ranging from Magic to psychology to the spiritual to UFOs and you name it and these conversations have been some of the most enlightening and engaging conversations that I've ever had in my life so very thankful very grateful for that very grateful to meet such interesting and fascinating individuals with big hearts and lots to uh lots to teach me so I'm ready to listen and learn really cool life-changing experience so far I'm not going to lie at this point I was starting to think that maybe I don't know maybe all of this was just like an

isolated incident that won't you know happen again or maybe it was in my head maybe it was some type of dream or I don't know doubt was starting to sink in especially after looking around and noticing that not one person in these last 3 or 4 days had had an outof body experience but all that changed after lunch I mean here's what happened all week we've been having chats about these out of body experiences and as you know I had one I had two uh but they were involuntary and they were very scary for me

but I'm kind of like chasing that now I want to harness that we've been hearing people have you know near-death experiences uh leaving their body regularly some of them you know not being able to but something just happened yeah just now like during the last meditation uhhuh can you walk us through what happened yes so all all week I've been a little bit skeptical like maybe this just isn't going to work for me maybe I'm just meditating Maybe it's not even possible to get out of your body maybe this will just be a cool experience

and kind of wacky but not really result in anything too profound just today this morning we had three meditations and during our second meditation towards the end I felt myself leap out of my body like bust through like so excited to get out it was this feeling of oh my gosh it's happening we're finally doing it let's go it was like my soul was saying she's ready and my body was like oh my God and it my whole body felt so cold like not in a bad way not in a dead way but just excited

you know the adrenaline of going down a roller coaster without leaving your bed it was such a joyful experience like let's do this you know like she's ready let's go this is going to be so fun for her I briefly went to Paris got a little bit too excited a little too freaked out a little too oh my gosh this is really really happening it was so new that I wanted to come back but when I came back in I opened my eyes and my entire body still feels like that cold almost as if like

somebody scares you like you get a jump scare and you still feel it hours later where you just like can't shake it you know for me there's an intense vibration that happened uh and everything was very fuzzy uh you know as I floated out of my body I could see myself and it was a really bizarre experience can you step by step take us through all the little details as you remember them okay so this meditation felt a little different because I went in a little more relaxed than usual and I also went in with

with positive expectation but no pressure that's a pretty fine line to walk not much happened in terms of getting the messages that we were being guided to get but it still felt super Lial I was in that in between space where I was conscious but I was somewhere else about 5 minutes before the meditation was over it was this crazy Rush of energy in my body mostly in my abdomen feeling like cold and shaky and then it was like then it happened then it was like let's go let's do this and I popped out like

an ice cube out of a tray it was there a sound was there just it was just you were projected no there was no sound I was projected it was like I was um like it from a mold you know like my my soul came out of the mold of my body but the release afterwards was so uh cathartic like I started laughing and crying because AI was trying to I I was so excited I was like it worked you know this this stuff really works it was such great validation then I was like what

what's next like how far can I go now that I'm like fully bought in I can see what my body can do I can see what my brain can do I can trust a little bit more in this process and now I feel like the sky is the limit okay I didn't uh I didn't give you guys an update before I went in but we're doing Focus 21 which is like another higher tier level a bit shaky um you know after hearing uh Hannah have a breakthrough and pop out of her body it really really

clicked something within me like this can happen for me I felt very happy for her to have that breakthrough and I felt like maybe that's what I needed to see there was like a barrier holding me back and I think that was it while sitting in the debrief rumor or the intro earlier in the cabin I was almost um I was almost in tears I was looking at everybody and you know over the last few days getting to know people but going through something like this is really really deep I don't I don't know how

to explain it other than that I'm you got to understand I'm a little loopy right now but during this this meditation this is probably the most profound one that I've had so far and I was trying to just go with it and as I was going with it I felt just this crazy tingling in all of my body and it was kind of [Music] emotional like I was like I was literally smiling with like I wasn't I wasn't attempting to smile it just was the smile started growing on my face and I started getting really

emotional it was very bizarre um I'm going to try to remain calm because we're going back in right away without debriefing and I don't want to I don't want this feeling to go away Hannah had mentioned mentioned this uh she described it as this peppermint feeling in her stomach where her stomach got real cold and her body got cold like a like a peppermint type cold and I didn't know what she meant by it I started feeling this like pepperminty thing in my stomach and I went oh my God it's happening and uh it didn't

go past that but it kept it kept swelling up and getting to that point where I felt this thing and I felt my my limbs tingle and man I am getting close I can feel it and it is positively encouraging I'm very very very stoked about this I feel like the pressure is wearing off and I'm just on the cusp of having a breakthrough I'm Osio Diaz Jr and I uh am a guest trainer here at Monroe I also work in the audio department uh June of 2022 uh is when I started I got my

first taste of the signal Tech back in the mid 90s uh and of course all of Bob's books at that point too I would normally ask um what the first out- of- body experience was and how that felt MH but I want to ask you what does what does it feel like now compared to what it felt like the first time ironically it feels new each time it feels new each time and exciting exciting sometimes a little unnerving uh but I know I'm in control uh it's it's me uh I am exploring and if I

come upon some unnerving feelings Sensations uh I can simply bring myself back I simply think of my body and I'm back in it the the first and sometimes challenging part is really being able to quiet the body uh so that it's not a distraction so you don't have your normal waking senses is um creating noise and so once that's calm out of the way uh then going through the process and and targeting states of expanded awareness perceiving other senses so to so to speak you know I'm on my own journey to try and make this

all happen so all this really is good information for me you know and I'm hearing the don't stress about it it'll happen Let It Go but also you know uh tell yourself it's going to happen like all you know this sort of dance back and forth and um my experience that I had was involuntary it you know it happened spontaneously twice in a row two nights in a row and it was very very scary so I have a hard time not being frightened by it because of that sort of trauma M what's what's a piece

of advice that you could give me you're always in control you're always in control much like you operate your physical body it's that aspect of you that controls the physical body that can choose to engage the experience or not you'll know if you're ready you'll know if it's uncomfortable and you simply say not now later and my advice is never say stop or no because then that might take a while to come back but you just say pause you know another time you know I'm I'm a knower because it happened to me you know I

don't have to I have that I have a I don't have the luxury of believing right you know I I know it can't be undone exactly I can't unbelieve it's I know it to be true and I know it to be almost more than real like it's it's a bizarre feeling uh but my audience obviously uh a lot of them may or may not have had similar uh experiences what would you say to those out there that are like I don't really buy it like what would you say to them that's completely okay it's okay

uh it's not for every body but it's available to everybody good morning no weird dreams to report from last night uh but today is the last day we leave tomorrow morning yesterday was uh yesterday was a pretty hard day for me uh near the end of it because after the meditation session I had this like crazy emotional dump is all I can is all I can put it as where I was just kind of drained I had to sweating and shaking and it was it was an insane experience that's all I can say it was

very real very intense you know I go to the debrief yesterday and you know I share this with the group that this is what happened to me and I was kind of like you know I just want this to be over with at this point because it it's like I was I was kind of almost there and at that point I was just like just let's just go just get past it get it over with you know so I asked asked one of the counselors Ary if I could uh you know listen to some hemisync

tapes tonight while I sleep uh to just like cuz I was I feel like I was almost there and he advised against it he's like I don't think that's the right call right now I think right now you should take a walk outside jump in the pool get your mind off it and tomorrow come back refreshed and that's what I ended up doing we ended up swimming we end up having a great time I actually my mood changed uh throughout the evening it felt really great to just connect with people here and talk and laugh

and today I'm in a good mood I'm feeling positive still feeling very relaxed and looking forward to hopefully getting out of body but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen and I'm thinking at this point it might just be the pressure you know I got the camera I want the story you know so it's definitely something that is in the back of my psyche saying hey you know as long as you're feeling that pressure you're not going to pop out so so I'm trying to today really take away that pressure really say to myself you

know what if it doesn't happen it'll happen while I'm at home and then I'll document it there and that's it that's the end of it so I'm just going to try and relax and have a great experience today and I'm going to go with that positive mindset but either way I'm having a good time all right breakfast I had breakfast had the intro today we're going to be doing or for now we're going to be doing another uh free flow in Focus 21 uh and this is the one that kind of messed me up yesterday

so actually looking forward to doing it again and exploring it uh maybe further and with more intention this time so we'll see uh Paul citarella been here at Monroe for almost four years now uh my role is uh Executive Vice President and chief technology officer so basically my role is uh focusing on our overall growth strategy and when was your first out of- Body Experience somewhere 15 years ago maybe a little bit longer I had read Bob's books actually prior to that and I was going through the the Gateway experience so I had this CDs

and I was doing that at home and I was doing one of those every day I was going through those and not having a whole lot of experiences happened during like the actual exercises um but I started having things happen at night when I was sleeping it started with lucid dreams which was new to me and that was kind of mind-blowing just by itself and just being aware in this dream environment and being able to control the dream and that was really cool but I really wanted to have that classic out of- Body Experience um

and then it happened probably a few months after I was like going you know into the gateway series and uh I didn't have the same kind of vibrations that Robert Monroe talks about but something similar um and I ended up just kind of peeling out of my body um and in my room and then looking at my body and being like you know at first I was just I don't know it it's kind of a mixture of I guess uh astonishment and like you know I was also trying to have it so some relief I

guess as well but but just some strong emotion then I just kind of clicked right back in and that happened to me a lot in those early days is like as soon as I'd get out I'd get really excited and then that would just wake me up after reading reading you know Robert Monroe's books and I've always been a Seeker hearing about his experiences I mean that to me you know if that was real like that just changed everything for me like that was so amazing that something like that could really be true because it

you know changes our whole definition of like reality like you know everything we know tells us that shouldn't be possible um and so that's why for me it was excitement it was like I'm actually having this experience and then then that proof of having that be my own experience now um was just incredible what are you most excited about at the Monroe Institute right now that you guys are currently working on what excites you what gets you out of bed and what gets you what keeps you going about this place you know what really excites

me now is you know we're always doing new things you know we've got research going on we're always working to like improve what we do um but but our focus on like getting this out to the world in a big way is what really makes me most excited and that's kind of what I do I mean I'm really just focused on our growth strategy and how do we how do we get this out there because knowing from my own perspective how this changed my attitude my outlook on life you know everything that I thought was

important before you know that all shifted um and I know that if enough people have that experience that can just change the world I mean that can change society first meditation of the day is done interesting one for sure as this was the sort of entity Super Highway and I kept getting the message you are ancient and it wouldn't stop it was like like super deep you are ancient that's it cool um that's the same it's interesting because the feeling I had when a few days ago I had this like Rumble that was like starting

in my legs and building up and I could like feel the room shaking and hear it shaking and there was like this rumbling going on the first thought I had in my mind was this is ancient whatever is happening to me is ancient like this is something that is happened to people thousands of years this like connects me to them was this thing that was happening yeah I don't I'm just relaying information so those are the connections I made so far going to the brief now going to go talk figure this out and then back

here in a minute for more astral traveling so my name is Alan Evans and I'm the CEO of the Monroe Institute and I also train some when I have time so I started having obes or out of body experiences spontaneously and it wasn't here while while I was here actually I was listening though to the take-home exercises oh that is called the gateway wave series but before I did that that me that method I had a few spontaneous ones with nothing and that so I experienced it learned about it then I wanted to get a

little bit more directed you know the first time I did it um it or the first couple of times it was more um related to exhaustion you know and just being at a point where I just didn't care what what was happening and so that just transpired and I and I never was afraid I've never looked at you know dreaming lucid dreaming obes as something to fear um I just see it as an experience so for me it's when that happens it's like woo here we go I did it very directive where I you know

put the three exercises together two exercises which is a meditation so 45 minutes 90 minutes you know and hour 20 and I found that to be helpful like to do a meditation that had nothing to do without a body and then do a free flow or something like that to attach on to it which means no verbal guidance or not a whole lot of Direction and that was so the second stage of it is where was more successful and then I found out in the afternoon was a good time for me or early morning you

know if you wake up like at 4:30 or 5 okay um you can be successful there at least that's how it worked for me I tried the galantamine and the U melatonin for lucid dreaming that was very successful but after you at least for me personally after I have these experiences um if I'm not interested in really working on it like a remote viewing if you're you're going to be good at remote viewing which I'm sure Joe mcmonagle told y'all it's a practice it's something that has to be focused on pretty regularly same with ob

same with lucid dreaming you can do it all it's just how much do you want to do it um I had an interesting experience with a trainer um I was here for a professional association meeting and I was running the control room and a trainer it was a it was an exercise that was not designed for out of body but that trainer who was here had one okay so as he realized he's out of body he's like well what do I do now so then he was like oh I know I'm going to go check

on Allan in the control room and see if she'll see me or experience me somehow so he shows up at the control room door which I think you've seen right yes and that's where we do the meditations where we're um broadcasting to all you guys who are meditating and so right when he does that there's a knock at my door now I had called maintenance I needed some help with the equipment this person I'll call him Fred Fred um just happened to be standing there when the door opened now he sensed a male presence but

he didn't see him so he just sees the door open he sees me sitting at the control uh panel and I look and so I'm actually talking to Larry who's the maintenance person going I'm good well right then I did this and Fred thinks I see him and so after the meditation and he is so excited he cannot wait to tell me or ask me about it and no I didn't see him but he saw me he I did I did I turned around and I said to Larry because we can't you know we have

the microphone so we don't say a whole lot so I just did it with us wow I'm good wow but what a validation there still a lot of people need that validation right includ including myself you know I'm looking for it I I want you to be a skeptic yeah when you come here I me that's that's healthy yeah to do um Bob and roow would always say you go find out you go do it and so we continue that we say we'll tell you some of our stories when we're setting up for you to

do the next meditation or afterwards but it's not about what we do or what another participant experience it's about you what what are what did you do what we have done is we've set a a a goal very lofty goal of reaching 1% of the world's population which is 80 million U that's our Focus in the next 10 years or now it's the next nine years so we are doing things to help us do that because we think it's so valuable for human transformation for uh quality of life for peace and it starts with the

individual yeah if you were to travel anywhere right now out of body where would you go wow I haven't been asked that question before huh huh you can choose right now yeah to go somewhere where would you go to go anywhere anytime yep wow that's a wild question oo ah that's such a hard question as you were formulating the question the image that came to my mind and to be honest I don't even know if it makes any sense but I'm going to say it anyway was to my own future to meet my future self

I would be very curious to know how that looks like the way my brain works one of the biggest driving factors for me and my curiosity is where did humans come from and I have my theories and I won't go there but like the creation of the first human or the design of the first human I want to be there at the the assembly line well there is one place that I usually go to and it's just like an archetype of universe I see this like a Milky Way kind of uh thing so I usually

go there and it's just my home I would want to go to the place where knowledge is held you know I would want to go to that place where I can learn things that are a little harder to figure out uh here the little evil guy on this shoulder says Antarctica what's the guy on the other shoulder say yeah that's a great question um probably just to see some family I would want to visit Local 3 and local 3 I've done it once Local 3 is U Beyond so it's a different world the weird stuff

yeah yeah I would like to do that you know I I would love to go back and talk to talk to Robert Monroe you know in the early days but I'd love to get his take on where we are today you know as a species as Humanity if you could say one thing to Robert Monroe right now thank you that's what I would say thank you both and that was the last of the guided meditations for my Gateway Retreat it's tough to make this video it is tough to conclude this experience here because I didn't

get exactly what I was seeking I've been struggling to get past this barrier during these meditations because part of me wants it to happen so bad for this video part of me wants it you know to be just this crazy experience that I get to share with you guys and I feel like that pressure has prevented me from making that happen this even just this recent meditation I felt my whole body Tremor like from my toes climbing all the way up my abdomen all the way up to my head I felt my stomach get this

cold sensation I felt I started to lift like these are real feelings these aren't hallucinations these are real real feelings like to the point they're so real that they scare me out of it so if anyone at home is thinking oh you're you know it's all in your head yeah everything's in your head first of all second of all that feeling is it's so strong and it's so real that it scares me I'm like wo what the hell's happening to me that's a crazy crazy thing although I didn't leave my body here on this trip

I think I have the tools I need to to do it at home you know what's real my reality is based on what my perception and my experience is and if my perception is that these things are real then that is real to me ultimately now obviously it' be better if I could leave my body go say hello to someone and see what they're doing give them a call and be like is that what you were doing and they confirm yes that would be incredible obviously ideal but obviously I don't think that'll validate anything for

you at the end of the day not until you try it yourself this has been a life-changing experience something I will never forget and something I will take with me I believe for as long as I live some of these tools I will be putting into practice you know a few people here have written books they are authors published authors they've listened to these hemisync tapes while writing and then while editing like Jordan said Jordan told me he was editing probably 80 85% of it he didn't remember writing he was editing something that came from

somewhere else apparently through this deep meditative State truth really is Stranger Than Fiction and Magic exists in many forms have I had a spiritual awakening this week possibly the one thing I have learned I am more than my physical body so are you coming up on Area 52 investigations so it finally happened twice [Music]