Can you be a Democrat and a Christian in 2024 and the answer is if you would have told me 5 years ago that I'd be on a podcast talking about the evils of children's hospitals I would have said you're insane you don't want to find yourself fighting against God come on to have don't want to find yourself on the wrong side of History so if I go to I'm like do I say the name or not say it okay I will people were out raised about It LeBron James got upset about it Jay-Z got upset
about it and the reason why is because if the baby was conceived in a way that someone else in society deems less than you can murder that child do you think it ends with children in the womb abortion has been the greatest racist weapon ever created Hello everybody welcome to Holy disruption podcast I'm your host shot and today I have pastors uh on this episode with me and we are talking about Politics pastors and politics let's go uh I have our Mercy culture East Fort Worth Campus pastors Pastor Will and deavin Ford you guys are
amazing you're blown it up in Mercy culture East yeah it's such an honor to be here you know I love the name of this podcast holy disruption because we need right now A disruption in this hour so we love we love pastoring but we love even more being able to have this conversation today Pastor Davin I love you so much This is your first time on holy disruption podcast I've been wanting you to come on for a while so I'm so excited that you're here you're one of my favorite women preachers you blow it up
every time you touch that microphone and the difference is you're not just a great preacher but the authority and power of the holy spirit is on you and the manifestation of that happens in the room every single time I honor and love you so very much thank you I love you so Much too and I thank God that you make space for women preachers in this house it's such an honor that's right uh we also have Pastor Les Cody uh our Mercy culture wo campus Pastor him and Pastor Nikki uh 20 years of friendship and
uh now we are living our absolute best life not just raising our kids not just uh close friends but also building the kingdom together I was at a mercy culture wo last Sunday and the power and presence of God was just I mean the Glory of the Lord was in the room it was beautiful it's an honor to be here I'm just I'm psyched about this topic I'm excited to be here I'm grateful to be surrounded with reformers and people that are bold and courageous and when you are surrounded with other bold and courageous people
it just it it enables you to be bold and courageous you don't feel like you're out there alone so it's an honor to be here today yeah and you you mentioned bold and courageous and This is why we are doing this episode today our nation is in crisis if you cannot see that our nation is is in crisis open your eyes our nation is in crisis uh obviously we're in financial crisis but more than that America is in a spiritual crisis uh we have women chanting in the streets my body my choice trying to fight
for what is called women's rights we have those that are half naked uh parading down the streets fighting for what they call Lgbtq rights we now have rights for our children and for minors of the fact that they should be able to make a decision to mutilate their bodies without parental consent there is a spiritual uproar that is taking place in America right now that we need spiritual leadership we need pastors we need Christians that are being bold and courageous not in an identity crisis and that's the concern in this hour is that does the
church and are Christians still Still in this identity crisis where do I fit should I have a voice uh into this or not and so I I feel like it's this pivotal hour that we do an episode like this because Christians are confused they're confused on where to stand uh is our identity Republican is it Democrat uh you're going to hear really really clear today your identity should not be in either one your identity is that you are a son and daughter of Christ period and we're going to go into depth in that Today but
we are leaning into this question can you still be a Democrat and a Christian today in 2024 but before I get into that I felt like I was just supposed to be vulnerable to lead in vulnerability and authenticity um because the moment I say that I know as a white woman many people want to turn me off because we have heard we have been brainwashed um that a white male or a white woman can't speak on some of the Topics that we're talking about today because we're privileged and we don't understand and there's been many
times I've spoken out on my social media and IG and I get messages um from young people a lot of times from uh black women saying you know you you can't speak on this because you're a white privileged you have no idea what you're talking about how dare you speak on this issue of abortion or fill in the blank and my heart is for conversation my Heart is for unifying what I believe has been a strategic demonic attack to divide the body of Christ to divide us um on a color of skin which is so
silly because we know we're part of this great priesthood the race of Jesus Christ as Sons and Daughters of him the color of our skin shouldn't matter to hear each other out but I wanted to have this conversation with some of you that might want to say you know what I'm going to stop this video I'm not going to listen Uh to her share this and I and for that sake I I want to just expose that my history in my past is not of white privilege um I was raised by a drug um addict
and dealer of a father um Not only was he dealing drugs out of our home I was first of all I was born out of wedlock uh they got married later my mom didn't know she was raised in a cult didn't know what my dad was doing but soon found out as she's being abused and beaten up by my father pregnant with her Second child my brother um she was hospitalized she was beaten so bad by confronting the drugs being dealt out of our house and when we arried back from the hospital my dad has
other women in the house this is what I grew up in my mom divorced uh my father I was raised um by a single mom for the next couple of years we lived in a trailer on the back end of a church property that was kind enough to allow our trailer because we didn't have land to put it on to Allow our trailer to be there that we could live out of and until my stepdad came into the picture it was pretty rough for a single mom raising a toddler and a baby working a full-time
job um there's more to my story I wrote a book called unscarred that you can read more of but I wanted to share this so that we can get past the color of a skin tone and begin to hear each other out and not be brainwashed in an hour where politics Are at the height of conversation to divide so ultimately to control um I believe we're better than that we're greater than that that uh our identity is not in the color of our skin but I'm going to even lean in further in this moment despite
me not being raised in White Privilege despite any of us living a privileged life I'm leaning in we're going to lean in a lot in this episode this does not give us the right to put evil policies Such as abortion or any other moral issues before our Biblical and Christian responsibilities our fear of the Lord it does not give us a right so whether or not my history your history is privileged or not it is not the excuse to murder our child we never have an excuse as a Christian to murder our child so let
us get into it now or not to just murder but we're going to be breaking down all different types of topics today we're not just Talking about abortion we're going to be talking about everything a lot of different policies a lot of different topics today so I'm asking you to come on this uh Journey with us for the next 40 minutes hear us out and I'm praying that the Holy Spirit gets to open your ears and eyes to some of the things that we're going to be sharing today I just want to thank you for
sharing your story you know I like I want to give an example of what you just said so if I Was inside my house and my house was on fire my house was burning to the ground and a Asian or a white or a black person was shouting outside my window the house is on fire I could care less the color of their skin the thing is burning down and so I think that we have to get pass skin color when it comes to truth Jesus was a Jewish man and he upset the whole appoc
cart so I appreciate you saying that that you gave that disclaimer but I do believe that God is raising up Abolitionists he's raising up voices and so you got you're not going to say oh is it black or white or Asian or or Chinese you're just going to want to get out the house right and it's time to get out the house yes so we're going to get into this and there are going to be some uncomfortable things but if you have ears to hear and eyes to see I believe God's going to show you
some things you haven't seen before I think it's really important that we say for those that are Listening today we are not viewing the Bible through political lenses that's right we view our political beliefs and what we support through the lens of biblical truth and and I think too many people have have tried to judge uh leaders spiritual leaders saying hard things in these times leading the body of Christ and it's like oh this is offensive what they're saying and it's offensive because their political beliefs are Before their biblical beliefs that's what's leading them and
today I want to challenge everybody we're going to talk Bible and when we talk Bible and what is biblically sound and correct and what is pleasing to the Lord that shifts how we vote yeah I mean what we've seen is modern day leftism has turned everything into politics and then said the church needs to stay out of politics so they've made everything political and then weaponize the word political to say Christians and the church need to stay out of it and that's why they say white people can't speak on this if you're a Christian you
speak on these issues you're a right-wing Christian nationalist you are a threat to democracy you are a danger you've got white privilege you're a white female you're a white male you're a you're an Asian now there's Asian privilege that we hear talked about in the and the higher education system and all of these Things are tools used to shut people up to shut up opposition so that they can remain in power and be the singular source of information we saw it um we've seen it since the turn of the century in the 1900s early 1900s
with Marx to turn everything into a political discussion and then to weaponize that word politics to keep us quiet yeah yeah so for example what Pastor Les is saying is if abortion becomes a political topic and Pastor Christian you're not allowed to Get into politics which that's a whole another discussion we've done some podcasts on that we are to invade God has anointed men and women to shift government we see it throughout the word of God and then obviously he tells us to go and invade Darkness to go be light the political realm it's a
Dark Realm but all that to say abortion our children being mutilated uh this anti-semitism these things these uprisings that are taking place in America these are not political issues this is Injustice that's right this is Injustice and we serve a God of Justice that has anointed us to bring Justice the same word for justice is righteousness you will have no justice without righteousness there is no righteousness in the world because they are not pursuing what is right in God's eyes they were pursuing what is right in their eyes so therefore the world will never bring
Justice this is why the the Church and the body of Christ Christians have to be anointed uh and willing to bring Justice to hurting and broken world yeah speaking to the whole thing of Justice I mean I think we all agree more than we realize on different things but we don't understand how we got to where we are on different things uh for example good example there was a thing that came out H&M put up an ad where it had and a white kid in his T-shirt said uh jungle Surv expert and a black kid
next to him and said coolest monkey in the jungle people were outraged about it uh LeBron James got upset about it Jay-Z got upset about it and the reason why is because when you can dehumanize somebody it's easier to marginalize them and to dismiss them same thing that Hitler did with the Jews with the caricatures they drew of Jews you know uh making fun of you know the noses body body parts things like that well African-Americans Has been taking a stand against that since about 19 5 1906 when there was this uh man in Africa
named odinga odinga was a really good um animal trainer but this man from the Eugenics movement saw him and thought this would be a good way to show people how black people are closer to monkeys and apes on The evolutionary scale so Eugenics is for those who don't know it's just a sophisticated name for racism Y and so these sophisticated eugenic uh races Believe that that uh um populations grow uh geometrically Food Supplies grow arithmetically so they feel like at some point in time the people who they felt deserve to be here uh need to
stay here but the other folks who drain uh all the goods from society from the people who deserve to be here they need to be weeded out so they wanted to weed out blacks poor the infirmed and they felt like um they felt like poverty and crime were inherited traits just Like your eye color right and that's crazy so this man was part of that movement so he brings Oda Binga deceives him brings him to the World's Fair and puts him on display where he's training different animals or whatever talking to different animals and and
so Madison Grant who is over the Bronx Zoo buys odinga now we're talking 1906 slavery is over he buys Oda Binga from the World's Fair and puts him on display at the Bron Zoo and 40,000 people a weekend would go to see odinga be in a cage with an oranga tank an oranga tank was his salate right and so uh eventually he's let out pastors begin to be an uproar about it and odinga eventually commits suicide right now why is this important well Madison Grant also wrote a book called the passing of the great race
it was Hitler's favorite book to read it was also the favorite book of another person named Margaret Sanger yeah and so They were all part of Eugene movement and Margaret s said that color people like human weeds and they need to be exterminated so she started eventually this organization called plan Parenthood so what I'm saying is this if you follow the breadcrumbs on these things you realize these horrible ideologies because the thing is this when the people that you cannot see talking about the child in the womb when the people that you cannot see can
become optional That's right come on it's inevitable the other people that we can see can also be dehumanized and marginalized even to the place of elimination and so this is why we need to so for those that are listening what past said is abortion was literally birthed out of the most racist Wicked individuals to wipe out a people Group which we are still seeing lasting into 2024 we know it's black babies that are aborted more than any other I believe Because it's and because it's targeted more than 75% of Planned Parenthood clinics are in minority
communities say to say 80% uh and there's not one Planned Parenthood Clinic that's in a minority in a majority High School all of them in the minority high schools that says something so so there's this targeting going on Planned Parenthood itself during all the George Floyd the height of George Floyd they actually came out And acknowledg the uhu you know the racist underp yeah Margaret saying they did they denounced her and all that but so if you really want to denounce her don't just you know take down her sign stop her practices that's right and
in targeting you know the the community so anyway that's listen if you are if you are listening right now abortion has been the greatest racist weapon ever created we are talking about millions millions of minority babies Murdered through abortion and we're going to get into youa I I want you to get into the euphemisms in just a second because it's so powerful the twisting and distorting of this because I feel like there are so many um young people and there are so many in minority communities that feel they're being defended by what has been portrayed
as women's rights they're fighting in for our freedoms they're finally fighting For our freedoms not knowing this evil agenda that is behind it that is not to fight for your freedoms it is to destroy a race I declare Let Freedom Ring loud to awaken faith and strategy and those that rescue to rescue more and let the sound awaken the fear of God and traffic ERS and anyone that should think that they could stand in the way of God's dreams being released in the [Music] Earth the Justice Reform is answering the Cry For Justice by bringing
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the the individuals you were speaking of and we're still still seeing it happen today this whole discussion on the um the exceptions we need exceptions to abortion bands exceptions for rape and incest we continuously hear about this What this is what this is is the continuation of the definition or the value of a human life is determined by how that human life was conceived yes yeah so either a a child in the mother's womb is a human being Crea in the image lik of image and likeness of God therefore has immense and eternal value or
it has no value whatsoever it's a clump of cells and it's no more valuable than a pimple you cannot have it both ways exactly a woman who wants the child Then you you don't say how's your fetus you say how's the baby no one says that they will spend millions of dollars to do in utero operations on that child you will you will mortgage your home to save the life of that child in utero but if the baby was conceived in a way that someone else in society deems less than you can murder that child
do you think it ends with children in the womb of course not that ideology continues to grow and Expand and extend until after children are born and well into their life if we begin to determine the value of human life based upon their circumstances right exact think about it Margaret Sanger also in our writings said that if we can't prevent it from being born let's create institutions for so mass incarceration is all part of the eugenic movement uh schools becom a pipeline to prison that's all part of the weed not process that was part of
the Eugenics Movement so all these things are connected and you talked about the euphemism discussion so there's a euphemism is just a big word to say it's it's a way to soften a difficult concept and people will use a phrase to sound compassion to sound compassionate that's really you know whatever the the harsh thing is that they're wanting to cover up so instead of talking about abortion we talk about a woman's right to choose we talk about um reproductive Freedom we Talk about Reproductive Rights we talk about all of these things that they they cover
up what's really happening I maintain if abortion is such a morally neutral topic that's not a big deal why don't you just say abortion right don't you call it what it is why do we have to say um you should have the freedom to be who you want to be nobody disagrees that people should have the freedom to be who they want to be what you're saying is children as young as eight and I'm sorry As young as two and three years old we're seeing now should have the right to transition their gender which you
can't do by the way it's impossible men cannot become women I'm sorry you can dress like one you pretend to be one but you can't chomos so you have to tell people the truth so this you people should have the freedom to to be who they want to be means that we give 10 old hormone blockers if you would have told me 5 years ago that I'd be on a Podcast talking about the evils of children's hospitals I would have said you're insane yeah Children's Hospitals is about the most Angelic thing I can think of
on earth a children's hospital yet they are on the Vanguard of harming children they are at the Forefront of putting forward these ideas of giving 10-year-old children permanent medication to block puberty because a 10-year-old says they want to become Little Sally wants to be little Sam or Little Sam wants to be little suie and so we give into that and we use these these cute little euphemisms to cover up what's really happening and pretending like it's about Freedom yes you have doctors in those Children's Hospitals manipulating parents that are like I don't know if this
is right yeah you went like Pastor like this for money for money and and they're saying statements like this to parents isn't it better to have a living daughter than a dead son Yep so if if you don't go ahead and support them in this surgery of mutilating their body then they're going to commit suicide and the death is going to be on your hands intimidation comes to a parent and a parent is laying down their morals all the sudden and putting their child under the knife that one day they're probably going to say what
in the world your job was to protect me your job was to Lead Me Right your your Job was to discipline me when I'm making wrong choices not go along with it and I want to be really clear on what this is because the compassion the false compassion for this stuff is is so intense and so real and I I I and so you have Christians that are confused well like oh well what if they commit suicide well what would you do listen this is an antichrist Spirit we are talking about saying that we are
going to compromise and lay our Convictions down to destruct the identity that God gave a human being yeah and we're putting them in the hands of demonic doctors that are the same ones that are going to murder our children and now dismember our children and pretend that that's the compassionate thing we have to wake up this is not a compassionate thing this is an antichrist thing look the suicide rate actually goes up goes up yes goes after The transition what we need we have these orwellian phrases like gender affirming care which is the opposite of
affirming the gender it is the opposite of care and so they say we're going to provide gender affirming care which means we're not going to affirm your gender we're going to affirm your delusion we're going to mutilate your body to come into alignment with the problem that's happening in your mind instead of saying let us help you to Come to a place of peace with the gender dysphoria that you're experiencing I I maintain and believe that our position on this is the compassionate position yeah it is it's that let us help you to come to
terms with the reality of your body I'm not denying that there are people who are tormented by their body I'm not denying that that happens I'm not denying that there are people who in their mind wish badly they were the opposite gender the Solution to that is not to put somebody under the knife to mutilate their body and to start doing it at as young as 10 years old yeah but here's the issue is when we were kids who was talking about it your schools that they want to chop off their body parts exactly nobody
it is because there has been a brain brainwashing brainwashing there has been pornography in our schools why are children thinking about who they want to have sex with and Their identity being caught up in a sexual identity as if that is their purpose in life who or what they're going to have sex with these should not be thoughts they should be playing with dolls and playing in dirt and playing sports that's what we did as kids but because of the brainwashing and I'm going to say it because it's coming from the Democratic party that is
where it is coming from there a brainwashing now in our children that is questioning their Identity thinking that it is their desire to chop off their body parts I I want to say this this is not about uh Camala Harris versus a Donald Trump this is not about individuals it's not about personality it's about policy about policy and values yes it is about policies that they are championing that they are putting at the Forefront we just saw the DNC for the very first time on a platform for in ever in the history what is in
the Forefront of it abortion Women's rights abortion we're handing out free abortions and so so this is not about uh left or right this is about wrong and right this is about uh biblical truth and wickedness and lawlessness that we are called to stand up against yeah and I think too we have to speak to this issue you know this abortion issue on the other side I always go back ESP especially when I talk to minority women if the war of Satan is so strong to to manipulate and To take out a child what is
the calling yes on the black community not just the black community but what there has to be and I believe we go back to the deliverers that are coming from the womb some of the greatest voices in urban America and so the enemy knows this so he always goes after the least and the weakest ones and so I just want to say I think it's time that there's like an uproar within African-American women uh to say uh no this is okay first of all The Civil Rights Movement is being hijacked yes it's being hijacked for
by a sexual preference that's right come on if Dr King which is right on your wall was here today this this is not this isn't the party of you know we're basically and this should make us feel outreached there should be something that rises up says you're reducing me down to a sexual preference and so it's time for us to you know there's ignorance and then there's evil and I Think a lot of people some blindly are ignorant like my dad he didn't understand he's passed away so I can say that ignorant I probably wouldn't
say that if he was still alive but he just did it because his grandpa did it and his grandpa did it and so there was the ignorance and I think when you're in that place of ignorance there's a window of Mercy for you to get educated we all came to this conclusion abortion was wrong because because God like I didn't Know abortion was wrong we all had the moment we were educated on something we didn't know a realiz if you love what he loves and you hate what he you'll love what he loves or you'll
hate what he hates right you hate what he hates and so once your eyes are open once you know the facts once you know the truth you are now responsible for what you know but then there's just outright evil where you aligned with evil you know it's a child And you choose to and this is where we're saying can you be a Christian and be a Democrat because once you know the Bible says if you have a teacher right once you know you know you're now responsible for what you know and so I just think
we've got to get past this like this oh well they you know it's just like my grandpa did it now we're telling you right this these are the facts and you're going to have to make it is not the same Democratic party that Our grandparents were under this is not the bill safe legal and rare when it comes to abortion that's what that's what it was at Bill Clint safe legal and and rare and then he he won that second and now we're becoming rare because we're decreasing and you could speak at an increasing rate
but you know here's the other thing that that the Democratic party has to deal with because again this is not you know your Mama's your grandpa's Democratic party things have shifted and these radical agendas uh you know come trying to get puber to kids against the parents knowledge and wish all these other things along with abortion you have what's now being called the god Gap within the Democratic party and so in other words you have this block African-Americans 12% make with 12% of nation I mean we can't put by ourselves Cal in office but you
know we got big Cities whatever om more majority the people going to put her in going to be white people white liberals the whole thing but 97% of that voting block goes Democrat for there's other reasons why we can get into that but the deal is but in that 97% over 80% according to this last report I saw came out in this article in 2022 over 80% believe the Bible is the inherent yes infallible word of God yeah so in other words you have so there's this conundrum and this Reckoning amongst this block it's looking
at the extremes and trying to Fig so you've seen like this year three or maybe four major uh Democratic leaders from legislators legislators even uh mayor shift out of the party and and go Republican because this is not the same party that I signed up for and the values have shifted mine haven't shifted and those four people I mean they represent populations blocks so there is A shift that is going on which is the reason re it's the reason why the Democrat Party has shifted from talking about these issues be and beginning to talk about
personality right and to use euphemisms to cover up what's actually happening and to talk about personality to talk about joy to talk about compassion to use these nebulous terms that everybody's Pro Joy everybody's Pro compassion everybody's Pro rights all of these things to cover up what's actually Happening and to make it about would you rather have brunch with kamla Harris or would you rather have brunch with Donald Trump can I can I speak into this because I I I'm listening to the person who's listening to us and they have this question in their head there's
this thing that's out there and our good friend Bishop Harry Jackson who's with the Lord now who was a major pro-life voice in DC worked with both parties but he said this he said it feel like Sometimes it seems like the white church wants righteousness without justice meaning the poor all of those things and it feels like the black church wants Justice without righteousness justice meaning the George Floyds but let's not touch the abortion issue and he said if the church Church could come together somehow we could see this thing broken and I want to
say this lie if we were alive during slavery times what would drown out every other Issue right yeah slavery would be the one thing sler SL dominating we be focused on the personel because people say well if I vote for if I if I have to stand for abortion um for you know the right and stand for abortion that means that I can't care about the poor well well what happens if you don't have a life yes a person has to have the right to live to decide first whether they're going to be poor and
so this whole argument of uh because this is a huge Argument out there I don't want to vote for this side because this means that you know the the economic and all the things and I think we need to address that because that's a lie what what would you guys say the biggest argument for people saying as a Christian I have to vote for the Democratic party uh um sometimes economic uh sometimes just tradition and then also too the whole idea of right now trying to make history that's that's big yeah because think About it
um for the first time ever uh the inauguration and MLK Day are going to line up on the same day and there's always like a lottery amongst the scotes Supreme Court Justices as to who's going to do the in this year is going to be uh justice Jackson all right so katangi Justice kangi Jackson will be the person swearing in either Donald Trump or Camala Harris so people are looking at It going you know this but that's why people are saying this feels like Obama esque this feels like let's cut through the wise yeah because
because so so people that it's our chance to make that's not true though that's not true so I you're you're making that this is an argument that I'm hearing but it isn't even true MH because let's take a a black conservative woman let's talk about wiom Sears who is a brilliant PhD black strong conservative lieutenant Governor of the state of Virginia running for governor if she were to be running for president of the United States against Joe Biden the same people who are saying I need to vote for KLA Harris because it's a history making
event would be excoriating winom Sears they would her the black face of white supremacy they would call her which they have in the New York Times they would call her a right-wing Christian nationalist they would call her a threat To democracy they would call her a danger to the United States they would call her a race Trader they would call her all of the things so it doesn't really it isn't really about that it's a spiritual battle it and it's about the policies and so I would say this to anybody watching you might fool other
people but please don't fool yourself yeah like understand foed don't be fooled by the nonsense of these because if kamla Harris and Donald Trump were to be abducted by martians tonight and they were to be Democrats were to put in somebody else and Republicans were to put in somebody else we'd be having the exact same arguments because it is about the policies and the values that we're that we're up against can we with that being said because I think we need to hit this too for those I'm thinking about those watching the Republican party we
are not saying the Republican Party does not have its demons right the Republican Party had teetered tottered on the life issue but I do think that we need to this is something I think we need to talk about today to kind of settle that because look at the r just to let you guys know too the episode and and this is for everybody to hear so if you haven't listened to it yet the episode before this one that airs I went into it I into it about Trump and the compromise on abortion we're going to
be Doing a three-day Esther's um fast in prayer for America for Israel and for him to repent and to encounter the Lord and so again what you are saying right now this is not saying oh um Kamala she's demonic and he's the righteous one that's right like no way I have no IDE I mean on the last podcast I call him Nebuchadnezzar I'm sure I'm going to I'm sure I'm going to take off a whole lot of people at that comment I really don't care CU it is what it is I could care Less what
he just said who whose names are up there who personalities whose face the color of skin it's what we're talking about and unfortunately I think less people are talking about what's important around their dinner tables they having the conversation Cala vers uh Trump instead of aborting millions of babies or life an ISM hatred towards Jewish peoplea yes mutilating and I don't think people even Know how to wrap their minds because honestly the media is so powerful it is controlling the beliefs of a Nation it's on purpose that they're not talking about these things talking sorry
but not only is is it abortion clinics that are planted in um uh communities of minorities but it's also hey the same thing Margaret Sanger did of calling up black pastors is what they were doing with um covid vaccinations get everybody to line up in your church and let's Let's vaccinate the minorities let's vaccinate the elderly and and they are putting a bullseye on specific individuals that they feel like don't have a great enough value to still live or to reproduce yeah this is evil and wickedness at the greatest talk about racism um and and
this is what I think people are not aware of we can go into the Trump thing if you want to I have I have no problem but I did want to let you guys know well I no I just think and Shi but it is you can't go without saying like at the RNC think of it 2016 2020 they had Lyla Rose speak at the RNC was an amazing pro-life a got good friends that work with her she's amazing woman of God then 20 then 2024 they have they go from lla Rose to Amber Rose
yeah who's an atheist who's pro-abortion and and other things um thankfully uh president Trump look he's he's he's turning but all that to say yeah there's there's stuff on Either side but when you look at the overwhelming majority of things that are going on on the extreme left yeah this is this is this is what we have to like resist so and I have good friends honest I have good friends who are Christians who are democratic legislators who are pro-life and they're fighting to affect change and I applaud them somebody needs to be in there
fighting but for people who just want to go along to get along and don't want to affect change Ah That's where I'm like man pray so then so yeah we're trying to affect change on this other side I'm I'm an independent but I'm trying to affect change on this other side where I'm more conservative where I have have a voice and people listening to me but we need to be fighting for the kingdom values to infiltrate everything that we're part of right now yeah and I love I love that you said I'm an independent but
I just I want to lean into that because I think a Lot of people will call them themselves conservative Christians and Sir or ma'am you have it messed up you are a Christian first again our political views should never come prior to who we are as a Christian and biblical truths and if the party changes again and like you said Republicans there's already plenty of wicked ones but if it changes and their policies change to wickedness then again my my identity is not caught up and become in an a independent or Conservative I am looking
at what do you stand for what policies are you going to be for the church being open the church so this is it we're we're not we're we're not pro- Republican pro- Democrat we're pro biblical values my loyalty lies with Jesus right him alone my loyalty lies with the word of God my loyalty doesn't lie with any particular party and so as you said if their value shift and change my loyalties and my values aren't going Anywhere they will align with whatever party is advocating for those here is the problem because when you say our
beliefs line up with Biblical beliefs this is the issue too many Christians have no idea yeah where does abortion come in to the word of God where where where do all these issues that we just talked about children being mutilated and lgbtq and all of this stuff they have no idea what it says so if I go if I go To I'm like do I say the name or not um say it okay I will if I go to TD TD Jake's church yeah and he has evil individuals um uh uh itical individuals that are
running for office on his platform the same platform that I am going up to that Altar and giving my worship to the Lord and they stand for Wicked evil policies because I don't know what the word of God says now I'm actually find myself as a follower of of a mistaken and Deceived spiritual leader and Pastor or an Oprah who's who's on television and she sounds good and she sounds compassionate and is who I'm pushing for and because I don't know what the Bible says but I think these are nice people I think these are
kind people or let's say on the other side the Taylor S Swift that is leading the Next Generation right now and so you have Christians that still think she's a Christian and I love her songs and I love her concerts And now because she just said I'm voting for Camala Harris now you have a bunch of young people who call themselves Christians because they have no idea what the Bible says or what's happening but because Taylor Swift said I'm going to vote that's how I'm going to vote and this is the problem we don't and
I just want to read I want real quick I want to read a scripture that says this uh two scriptures and then Pastor deavin um I want you to run with it Revelations 22:15 22:15 speaking to end times which we are in but outside are the dogs meaning his kingdom that aren't entering through the door through the gates but outside are the dogs the sorcerers so those operating in witchcraft the sexually IM moral the murderers abortion the idolators and everyone who loves and practices falsehood that's who's saying who's not getting in and then I just
want to read Another scripture that I know many of us have heard but this is it's crazy we hear it but then we don't apply it to our everyday life Matthew 18:6 whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin or to stumble it would be better for him to have a great Millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea how much more does this scripture speak to Leading our children to believe they can mutilate their bodies or their Identity is no longer in Jesus
Christ but is in their sexuality and oh by the way as you become and find out the sexual being that you want to be don't you know that your health care and your rights is to just kill the babies after you have sex with whoever you want to have sex with you can go murder them through healthc care that should be your right I mean if this scripture doesn't speak directly to what we are seeing and what we are leading our children into I Don't know what does and that's exactly the verse I was about
to bring up about the children I want to say this if you think about what's happening with the Jewish people all around the world this an anti-semitic Spirit right Crossing from the homosexual agenda into what does Hamas have to do with lgbtq because the spirit finds a way to get in to go against the je people at the end of the day the day got to end and what we're talking about is the least of these from Hollywood to government to the school system to the minority Community it is all about a child it is
powerful people and Powerful places praying on innocent week and if we do not become their voice who will become their voice and I believe that the roar you're hearing is the Roar of the Lord saying This one belongs to me and so if we don't if we almost say okay in this election I'm voting for the child I'm voting for the child in the trafficking issue I'm Voting for the child and the abortion issue I'm voting for the child and if you're going to vote for the child meaning for the life of the child from
the life the innocence of the child for the life after the child is born and this is why Pastor hea the woman's movement has to be raised up because you have because let's let's talk about that for just a second women unfortunately are disproportionately involved in the ruination of children in Our country today women are on the front lines of destroying the innocence of our children women um in medical professionals me uh um teachers unions and teachers they are on the front lines of the destruction of the Innocence of children the feminist and it is
being used what why why is this happening well it's a spiritual attack and secondly because the demonic spirits have weaponized empathy yes Y and have brainwashed and Confused women and men To think that it is the empathetic thing to do to give in to whatever emotional physical desires that a child might possibly have that's why you have women crying on television talking about how they're fearful that Republicans are Banning books I mentioned it earlier Republicans aren't Banning books conservatives and Christians across the country are saying hey let's not have books in kindergarten libraries we're Banning
pornography that have Pornographic images of anal sex and oral sex and every other type of sexual perversion you can think of for second and third greston and again we're using euphemisms to cover up the evils of what God said he would search out the daughters of Jerusalem can a woman forget her child and have not compassion on the son of her w it's time for the hearts of the fathers to turn back to the children but the mothers to turn back to their own Children we are causing genocide on our own it's not the government
and I get it when you're ignorant and you don't know we were there we know we I assisted taking my sister to an abortion CL but once you know you know there's no more excuses and so it's time for women to repent yes it is time for us to repent I took the day after pill three times in high school and so I love what you just said it's not that we don't know that we haven't experienced that side of being Ignorant and not knowing but to repent for that and to turn back to him
and to not continue to live in Rebellion when you have the knowledge but say I'm going to resist truth as if that means you're standing on your own two feet better or that you're fighting for some new civil rights movement that isn't true and we're having we're saying if you've had an abortion and you're watching this we want to we want to see you get the help you need the counseling you need all the Things that you need so that you can be healed because 90% of women after that even into their 90s they don't
talk about it they're suffering in silence they they they feel shame they feel guilt but we're here to say through the blood of Jesus there's a place for you there's forgiveness to you but then there's another side that we're speaking to that says it is okay my body my choice and that spirit is the same spirit that that do as thy Wilt uh cast Off restraint lawlessness whatever I want and Sir ma'am God is the one who gave you that body and you're going to have to stand before him and so we're pleading with you
today to say no that's right here's the here's the exciting thing that just like you talked about the orchestrated attack against the black community because there are reformers unborn black reformers that the enemy is going after with of ab the enemy is going after the women because These women are going to lead a wave a tsunami of righteousness and Revival across this country and that's why there's such an attack against their mind and that's why there's confusion and that's why there's this weaponization of empathy because they are the ones called to bring righteousness we need
women of every color standing up um and using their voice for holiness right for biblical Clarity and for Holiness right now what Are you going to say I just want to say to this whole thing y'all was speaking to so eloquently about this attack on children Jesus when he said um fear not he who can destroy the body but fear he who can destroy both the body and spirit in hell that word for Hail to use was the word gehenna is the subian for the word ham for the valley of ham in the valley of
ham this is where they would offer up you know Sons and Daughters Israel offer up their sons and daughters To Mo and uh mutilate burn kill kill the children so in other words Jesus was basically saying the greatest he could have used any other word for hell he chose that word because the greatest revelation of Hell on Earth is the place where we mutilate and destroy our children this is what we're resisting this is what we're up against this is what we're up this is what we are resisting um I don't care that we're out
of time I want to keep going so I want You guys to feel pressure of the time right now because I want I want to keep going um you know you started hitting this topic of anti-Semitism yeah let's talk about that and we want to talk about it I I keep saying I can't believe what I'm seeing and that I guess maybe I shouldn't be shocked but that I'm glad that I still am because it's tender and it's it is uh mourning what we're seeing in our nation right now but when I'm seeing that schools
in colleges that Jewish students are being blocked off and intimidated from not going to their class and that are being filled um with with people rioting and declaring gas of juice um I am in shock I am in shock and I can't but question and I want to ask you guys um your opinion on this If This Were flipped and this was gas the blacks the Browns what would be happening in our nation right now oh but there there'll be an outrage Civil War yeah people be invoking Dr King and other you Know movements when
people will be in the streets right this called SEL justice but yeah it's selective Justice and and what's happening with Jewish people right now it is it's it's mind numbing I mean Dr King took a strong stand against anti-Semitism and when he walked across at Ed and Pettis Bridge he walked with Rabbi yeah uh uh Hessel uh who who wrote a book called our legs were praying he carried the tall r with Dr King as they walked across the Jewish Community and African-American Community was so B together but now we have this time where you
see there's this you know uh this this resistance in this anti-Semitism that is creeping up in all these uh you know African-American movements even some someone so older civil rights leaders and I'm like oh my God Dr King is probably turning over in his grave he took a strong stand against anti-Semitism back then and we walked together and so it it it it it blows my Mind moral confusion is like a cancer you can't have a little bit of it you either have it or you don't so if we're morally confused about giving porn to
Children if we're morally confused about puy block for 10y olds if we're morally confused about abortion if we're morally confused about all of these issues women men and women sports things that are so common sensical then of course we're going to be morally confused about who is the evil in the Middle East the free Country of Israel or the nazil likee state of Palestine and this goes back to the church unfortunately with replacement theology I me you have to look at the church and what we've taught and people they're normalizing this and what we have
not taught concerning the Jewish people but I've I you know I've been blessed to work with women that are in bomb shelters all over Israel and you know all what our spiritual daughters is over There now but we're but for me it's like there needs to be an Awakening right now that this anti- Jesus is coming back for his Jewish bride it's all going to end in Israel everything's going to end there he's going to step his foot there New Jerusalem New Jerusalem I I just believe that this anti-semitic spirit and this that that Gaza
they're teaching that Gaza is the that the Jewish people is the oppressor it's a false social justice movement and we're standing on The wrong you don't want to find yourself on the fighting against God come on you don't want to find yourself on the wrong side of History so I'm challenging everyone white black Asian that we got to make up our mind on this Israel issue because I don't want to fight against the Lord and so it is an outrage that Harvard my City New York City Harvard all of these campuses that are that have
colia University Columbia University that you are allowing Jewish Students to be locked out of the classrooms on their campuses right there should be a moral outcry right now well and who oh I'm sorry I was just going to say there has been there has been no holding accountable no holding accountable these professors a part of it or the presiden presidents of these colleges which in fact people are like well how does this back a line between uh Democratic policies and Republican policies uh I want to share this that um There was an anti-Semitism measure that
split the Democratic Party by condemning anti-Semitism and holding the presidents of colleges responsible for the violence and the protest 85 voted for them to be held accountable 12 25 Democrats voted for them not to be held accountable wow so again we are seeing exactly what you said when we can't say what is a woman and what is a male when we can't Define these boundaries when we can't protect the innocent and unborn life When we have over sexualized culture to a degrading and disgusting place there are no lines there are no morals it is what
will continue to demoralize Society what will continue to dehumanize individuals to a barbaric society that will turn against and devour one another because if you can dehumanize them you're can marize them and eliminate them and you can control them and I blame pastors and I blame the church and I blame Christians for so Much of this because I pastors I watch it all the time are intentionally vague instead of providing moral Clarity there's an intentional vagueness and confusing speech and speaking in circles and speaking in my favorite word today word of the day euphemisms speaking
in all these things so as another favorite word nuance Nuance I mean is that nuance and complexity to these things yes but y'all going to Nuance us away from the Bible from what the word of God says so It's on purpose it's so that no matter what what side of whatever issue you stand on if you're sitting in this in their pews when you leave church on Sunday you feel um confirmed you feel affirmed in whatever side of the issue that you set on and you'll keep giving and you'll keep attending and you'll keep feeding
the egos of Unholy and unrighteous pastors you know Pastor Le I was walking in my mailbox a couple of weeks ago and the Lord said I really Felt like the Lord said to me it will be easier for you to stand with Jesus than it will be the Jewish people I said what do you mean by that said well the name of Jesus is all over America everybody says Jesus Jesus they anybody can say Jesus but the dividing line for the church right now and the persecution will be the Jewish issue standing with the Jewish
people right now that is going to be our persecution and so this is where it's going to start to get even More than what we're seeing with the abortion we're coming into this wave like we've never seen before so we're going to have to make up our minds because to stand what Jesus is stand with the Jewish people but what he was saying is it's going to be harder to have friends with Jewish people to stand with them and don't say well if I was alive during the times of Holocaust surely I would have said
something now's your time no no most of the church was Silent and they did nothing knowing it was wrong that's right they did nothing they could have stopped it the church had the power and authority to stop it and they didn't so like you said don't say that you would cuz you're not now and and the risk is a whole lot less so if your vote is on the child your vote has to be on Israel so let's provide a little Clarity to all the Christians that are watching that might be confused on the issue
of Israel yeah Why is it that I can ask someone do you believe that men who think they're women should be able to compete in women's sports and if they answer yes in the affirmative I know where they stand on Israel I know where they stand on the sexualization of CH sexualization of children I know where they stand on abortion I know where they stand on a whole host of issues why would that be the case because it's spiritual it's a spiritual Veil and a demonic Attack upon the mind it's not and the confusion I'm
wearing the shirt so if you're confused about that the Israel issue let's tie it into all the other issues that we're talking about it's the same Spirit of confusion yeah oh I so I'm just going to give Clarity for those of the ones that are still listening with us that are still with us um I'm going to give you some bottom lines okay here are the evil proven stances you can go look it up you can go fact check this Here's the evil stances of the democratic party that contradict not with our opinions not with
what we feel but with biblically based Christianity okay the Democratic party is pro-abortion murder and child sacrifice we say child sacrifice for a reason because we want you to know that at this point I may be getting ahead of myself right now and preaching but in 2024 if you vote Democratic in this presidential election you are aligning Yourself with the worship of Bale MCH and Ishtar uh Pastor deavin just said it she said choose who you are going to serve the words of Elijah left in my spirit he said the same thing to the prophets
of Baal choose this day whom you're going to serve so I'm going to we're going to make it super clear for you so I'm going to say it again the Democratic party supports pro-abortion murder and child sacrifice we're seeing this even after The womb we didn't get to get into it today we have a lot of other episodes that you can watch um that we go thick into this abortion issue but they are pro- homosexual agenda Pro transgender propaganda Pro communism and socialism pro- haate for Israel Pro pornography in schools Pro sex change surgeries on
minors proen in women's sports Pro redefining biblical marriage Pro the destruction of the nuclear family Pro the worship of nature or what we call Globalists anti- parents rights meaning the children they you think should be owned by the state anti- prayer and and God in schools and in the public squares Pro Banning God in the Bible from the Public Square Pro rights that come from government and not from God anti-free speech Pro unfair and unjust prosecution of political Rivals and they are clearly anti- absolute truth if we have seen them questioning what even is the
truth the truth is Jesus he is the only way he Is the truth he is the life not to mention they are celebrating like we have mentioned parading not just down the streets half naked in bondage wear with children but they're opening bars and strip clubs and allowing children to come in as they are stripping protrans Story Hour in our kids' libraries they have admitted they are after our children on purpose they are brainwashing our children with all of these policies in which I would further More to say are more than policies it is worship
of high places it is worship of demonic altars their religion and worship to mik Bale and Ishtar and so I want to question you this with today what are you AR arguing over about who you're going to vote for what is your strong stance where is your confusion I hope you have been delivered of it from today but I am going to say this clearly I opened up with this question can you be in 2024 a Democrat and a Christian and the answer is no it's no yeah it's no and here's why because it means
that you are voting for all of these ant anti-bible Antichrist policies and ways and this is the scripture that even as I prayed for this moment for deliverance for people is this is is the Lord reminded me of Acts 7 ver 51-58 this is when Stephen uh just preached basically his guts out after Being attacked on what he stood for saying that he was preaching heresy about Jesus and he responds in verse 51 you stiff necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears you always resist the Holy Spirit just as your fathers did which of the
prophets did your fathers fail to persecute they even killed those who foretold the coming of the righteous one and now you are his betrayers and murderers who receive the law ordained by angels yet you have not Kept it and so on hearing this in verse 54 what do they do to Stephen it says the members of the Sanhedrin the religious leaders the religious people they were enraged they nashed their teeth at him and it says Steph full of the Holy Spirit looked intently into heaven saw the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right
hand of God and he said look I see Heaven open and the son of man standing at the right hand of God listen to me right now verse 57 it says And at this they covered their ears and they cried out in a loud voice and they rushed together at him stoning him and dragging him out of the city it says the witnesses laid their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul what does that mean they were confident they were taking off their clothes to get comfortable to go Stone him and I
felt a warning I felt a warning for Christians in this hour to not get comfortable at throwing stones To not cover your ears thinking that you are protecting yourself that you already know the truth I think that there are false truths in us because of what social media because of what the media um has been placing out what newspapers what um the agenda has been so loud about which was the same exact thing that they did in the times of Hitler they controlled communication to brainwash the individual so people thought what they were doing right
was Right in which Revelation warns us it will be a time when people call evil right and right evil or right wrong and wrong right I want to challenge you right now after listening to this listening the hearts of these pastors coming from truly compassionate places sharing their hearts sharing biblical values and exposing demonic agendas and policies to brainwash not just us but our our children for legacies on would you pause to pray would you pause to ask Your heart to to to submit your heart to the Lord like David prayed search My Heart Lord
and if there's anything within me that offends you Lord would you rid it of me I pray that we would all come to that place in this hour is there anything in me let us not be so prideful let us not be so arrogant to hold on to our ideologies our cultures our skin colors that we become more loyal to those things look listen to me right now I feel the Holy Spirit you Cannot be so confident to think that what Pastor deavin was saying that one day you will not answer to us it is
not about an argument to me or to any of us sitting on this set that you are listening to do not be so confident that one day you think you're going to go before the Messiah you are going to go before Jesus and say yeah but my skin color yeah but my culture yeah but my background my family my history I was loyal to and you're going to say that to The man that was stoned that was beaten that was placed on a cross and crucified by his own people and his own race ha he
was loyal to one he was loyal to the Lord of Lord and the King of Kings I feel the Holy Spirit right now now and I pray that those of you that think you have done your due due diligence of being loyal to something that is good but it is not God and I'm calling everybody right now to Search Your Heart search your mind search your Souls have the conversations with God-fearing individuals that are Bible believing Christians to check your heart check your beliefs and make sure not just your vote in this ction but every
single one you get to be a part of and more than a vote that your voice aligns with Biblical truth and what is pleasing to Yahweh what is pleasing to Jesus because that is one day what we will answer for answer to Is was our life everything That we did everything that he gave us that vote which I love this my husband said it on a podcast yeah there was a a vote cast in The Bible and the vote that was cast was to place him on the cross over a murderer they cast their vote
to put put a perfect man they cast their vote to put a savior they cast their vote to put the one who is the truth that came to set them free thank goodness for his Mercy thank goodness for his grace because despite their evil Vote that they cast he died yet he came back three days later and gave us his holy spirit to teach us to guide us to convict us invite a holy conviction in invite truth back in so that one day you get to stand in confidence on which side and again the side
is not Democratic it is not Republic it is between what is right and what is wrong and this is what I would charge you with today that I pray that you find yourself on the side of righteousness not what is right in Your eyes but is what is right in his eyes so Lord I pray that your speak Spirit yes Lord would flow into these individuals that are listening whether they're in their car in their house in an encounter time I don't know where you're at you may be in another Nation I don't know what
your skin color is it doesn't matter you are a son and daughter of the most high King Lord I pray the identity crisis in the church that you are redeeming us of that you Are delivering us of and you are bringing the bride back to the place of making herself ready Lord you would bring us back to the place of every single day how do we stay and remain a faithful bride to one and that is you King Jesus so I pray for those listening today those that need Deliverance deliver them those that need salvation
bring Salvation those that need Clarity of confusion would you bring them Clarity those that need Encouragement to stand firm when they feel surrounded give them encouragement and power to stand firm and to be a bold preacher and teacher of your word and of your truth to set others free around them those that have have been um bombarded to be uh uh um uh more diligent and faithful to to uh Heritage or to a culture Lord would you make them bold to bring a shift into their Church into their Dynamics into their families into their backgrounds
and their Families and in their cultures in their generation would you make the Next Generation bold to stand for righteousness Lord I Thank you that truth today is setting people free that rebellion and Witchcraft we say You must go in jesus' name Holy Spirit would you invade Minds hearts and souls and spirits today Lord I ask for True Freedom not freedom of what our government offers not freedom from what politicians offer I ask for Freedom that comes from from the most high King to encounter your people today in Jesus mighty name amen amen thank you
so much for joining us on another uh podcast of holy disruption we'll see you next time thank you for joining me on this episode of holy disruption where we are Awakening the bride of Christ and calling the church back to Holiness if you'd like to continue with me on on this journey follow me on social @ Heather shot and make sure to subscribe @ Mercy culture on YouTube and all podcast platforms [Music]
