Session 46: Rosé | Therapuss with Jake Shane

Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch it's Theus he's got you on the hook he's slaying and he's shook it's therapist therapist therapist therapist with me Jake Shane hi and welcome back to therapist and what a week we've had okay I just finished my therapist live tour it was 21 cities we finished in Los Angeles it was so fun Renee came out Sophia came out Alexander Came out it was so fun and I really really do miss Tor like I that was some of the most fun I think I've ever had in

my life I just love being on stage I love meeting everyone and I loved making people laugh in person like there was oh my God it was like the best feeling in the entire world I also released my first comedy album puss and poems which you guys have shown me so much love for and I'm so grateful and I'm so happy you guys are loving it cuz I love it l turly So much I actually love it so much that I went to the studio today and recorded my Christmas song which I should be putting

out shortly um I'm really proud of it and I'm really excited um but yeah tonight we have one of the most special guests I've ever had oh well stop stop I told you I felt sick stop sorry just so in my ears tonight we have one of the most special guests I've ever had Jose pop singer songwriter Superstar Her new single number one girl is out everywhere now as well as the number one Smash Head a with Bruno Mars her debut album Rosie is out December 6th everywhere she is so so incredible I she is

one of the hardest working people I've ever met one of the most talented people I've ever met and I'm so honored that I was able to share the space with her and to have her come on this show it was a dream come true and I'm really really excited for you guys To see it so without further Ado Ros hi and welcome back to therapist today I have never been more Star Struck in my entire life we have one of the most special guests I've ever had Ros hi hi hello thanks for coming thank you

for having me is this how I hold this like an ice cream coat I know I know ice cream I'm sorry I'm like so nervous I've never I was pacing around my entire house all day like so anxious oh my gosh I was like I hope I do a good Job yay no I'm so excited to be here I'm so excited and you know you are coming off like really really you're on fire right now am I yes you yes you are a you are I mean a is number eight in the country as of

right now as of right now I crazy it's crazy it's one of the number one songs in the world and by the time this comes out your next single number one girl MH will yes will be out right I think so yes yes and you you're not just a performer you're a songwriter As well apparently yes you are what do you mean apparently yes how long have you been writing music for um not long I uh I started joining my sessions for the album last year so it's been a year was like last year around

like I think it was around SE September or something like that so yeah a bit over a year has it been like cathartic for you to like yeah write how you feel yeah no like At first I was really terrified yeah I was Terrified because I feel like music is something obviously I love but I don't want to just be like I ride music and like you know it's not an easy thing like I you know assumed and then and then I went in and then I met some great people who um helped me kind

of get over my anxiety of being in the studio and I noticed later on all it is is just us like chitchatting like girlfriend like friends like for coffee and so like it was literally just like us chatting and Then putting that into a song and then making it sound like everything we would talk about so like anything it was like okay that doesn't sound like real it doesn't feel like that that's not real that's not true and then we like scratch it and like write something else that actually feels real it was just like

a bunch of that and then no just it was just like days in the studio where like I had all this like terrible anxiety and all this these thoughts in my head and I Like just like I'd P I'd like throw throw it all up and then would write in a song and then like I'd leave with it like just like left in a song so I was like that's what it was and I was like it's like so much fun but then I'd have my bad days where I was like that did not help

that did not really like portray what I was feeling so I would trash that and it was like a bunch of that put together and then that became the album I mean I think that's so Incredible because I feel like the best albums are ones where you can like really hear someone's like authentic feelings in it and if you have those feelings like those anxieties about like throwing up all your feelings into a song it means it's real and it means it's you and it's really going to resonate with people yeah I mean I was

shocked because I was like okay this is kind of like it's it's like it it it'll be good for me because I think when I Meet my friends like I I hate myself for this I'm the type of girl who just can't stop talking about this certain like sub je and I'll just like repeat it and repeat it and my friends are like Angels who's just like they'll listen to oh like you hyper fixate I do the same exact thing yes I can't like anything normally like that's what I always say like I always like

something or I always I'm obsessed about something yeah yeah it's it's talk about it a lot so it was Easy when I would go into the studio I just be like okay this is what I'm on I just like talk about it right right and then I like over so my problem is that I overshare yeah me too right that's me too yeah that's my problem so it's like when I go to the studio it's like a safe space and I'm I'm if anything I'm supposed to overshare you're absolutely supposed to overshare it's what makes

a good songwriter yeah so it was fun I was like I could do this for a year and I Did did you ever like have a moment where you you wrote a song and you were like that is too real like I cannot put that out oh yeah no for sure there's actually like a line in a song where I was like no we have to change that line so we had to change the line so I was like it's giving too much right right right um but then a lot of the stuff like my

you know my creators and producers were like no it's so good just keep it and I got so much anxiety at First I was like I don't think I should say this it's just like we should we should just change everything um but they were like no it's really good let's keep it so like yeah now I've learned to be a bit more vulnerable there and just you know it's it's the art so we kind of briefly spoke about this but you also get anxiety yeah and she was playing with this and I was like

hey what the hell is that give that to me right now it's become like a like a Thing it's like a r they call it a rider uhhuh it's a rider it's like every time I'm in a meeting or anything it's like it's always on the table because you know now I can't work without it right um I just get anxiety and like I don't know if it's ADH I don't even know what it is but like I need this and then if I have it in my hand like I focus when I have really

bad anxiety I need to move some part of my body you know what I mean I like tense up like I oh same like It's like muscles I do weird things I sometimes sense the muscles here like it it's like I pick a different muscle every day oh my god do you know what I mean I was thinking about this the other day I used to do like like I used to go like that my God yeah do you know what I mean it's weird it's like it's just you know when you're like oh I've

never had an original experience that's like how I feel every time I talk about it and then I noticed what I do is like I use my Fingernails and I like just like I like do this a lot weird so which is helpful because like I do that just to this now I used to feel like or I still do I feel like the veins in like my my hand I like like feel for a pulse like it's like as if you know what I mean but I like I tense up and I walk around

I Pace all over the house I Pace Pace Pace Pace Pace Pace Pace but this is good cuz you're like CLE using the muscles here you're so yeah yeah so it's just like a Workout that's becomes a workout have you always had anxiety like for me I've had um anxiety since I was like if I remember like 7 years old do you ever like think about something and you're like oh that was anxiety I just didn't know it at the time see I'm a little I've been I've lived my life a little dull to that

I think I've only started noticing it which is why I feel like it only started recently I think it's it's gone really bad over this past few years And like even like friends that used to work with me like 3 four years ago they started working with me again this year and they were like rzy like you're a little different from then and I was like am I um and I think that's probably the anxiety that's kind of like I think I have like I've never needed any like this before like that have stress bows

I'm like I don't understand stress bows like why do you ever need them is what I Thought until I came across one during a meeting once and I was like ew what is that I walked in I was like e and I touched it I was like it's disgusting and then I touched it I was like oh it's kind of a cool texture and then now all of a sudden they're at every meeting every single meeting and then I was like E I was like disgusted but then I ended up doing this like like ser

ious meeting with somebody and I got through it like so well and then I was like it's the Tress ball it's just help yeah that's when I diag noed myself with bad anxiety I was like I have bad anxiety that's what it was and that was that's when I found out it's it's frustrating when it like um like comes out like in physically before it comes out mentally you feel it as opposed to think it that's what I'm saying once you diagnose once you say I have anxiety right now things are a bit better but

then some times like hours past and then you look Back and you're like I was I was going through anxiety right so that's when I think now it's good that like I have this to remind me I have anxiety if I'm going for it I'm like I know I have anxiety so I know how to like like articulate like I know how to tell people I'm like I'm getting anxiety so like you know some people are like what's the vibe has changed and I'll be like I have anxiety and I'll tell myself I just need

like 5 minutes yeah that's Good oh my God that's I need a squishy break is what I you know how people go for smoke breaks yeah squishy break yeah I need a squishy break I actually do that but I do it so much more impolitely I do it so I'll be at dinner I get really over stimulated easily I always say I'm the worst dinner guest I'll just stand up and I'll say okay I have to go and I do a lap around the block and I come back and I sit down I do it

about four times a meal oh so this Is like he just keeps disappearing be back cuz I just I my brain just gets so muddled like I get so I get over stimulated really okay have you like thought like I wonder what is making me so do you think it's I think about it a lot lately because it's really come up lately like this is like real time um and I noticed it was definitely overwork and I was using because I have so many things I have to confirm like left to right but it's not

Just like it's not mathematics there's not an equation to everything it's like it's creative control and it's like I have to use like the deepest parts of my brain to find out what I want and dislike and I have to keep giving feedback on that and it literally been like like days on end and I don't know how to take a break I'm kind of a workolic cuz like for me it's like work is my hobby and I love it that's why I do it and that's the only thing that Makes me feel sane so

then it's like a whole bad cycle so I noticed i' for the past like six months I haven't had a day where like I turn it off because for me like again it's my lifestyle it's not like I go to work and I come home I don't know how to disconnect from it and so I think it was like that and overworking and which I love I'm so grateful to do it so I keep doing it and then I had um wait what was the question why am I doing I was so entranced by What

you were saying because I was going to say don't you feel like and then even when you turn it off don't you get anxious about turning it off you're like I kind of want to turn it back on no but then this is what I learned the the other day oh my God it was crazy that's what I'm saying I don't know how to do that I don't know how to have a break and actually enjoy it so I never do it right cuz you're like I just want to work yeah and that makes me

feel sane so I but then it started making me feel insane like I started to go insane it was like a point where I was like I'm going insane and then I was like one day I was like okay I asked everyone if I take a break tomorrow will I would my Korea just crumble to the ground do we die I was like do we die and it sounds irrational to others but to you it's like yeah it's very valid and so literally I said tomorrow I said nobody text me I'm just going to try

that I've Never done it before just no one is allowed to text me no one and then somebody texted me and I was like this person I literally was like this person texted me please tell them not to text me you're me you're me yeah and I was like and then I'd be like I reply I'll reply on Monday and I did that and then I had I was like an out of body body experience is that what she it was crazy I was like I felt like I was dreaming and the whole day I

was my and like I Was lucky because my friends flew in from like like New York and like all my friends were in the same city City and we're all like very similar like do you know mybriggs so all my friends are NF like something n it's like a mybriggs thing and we're obsessed with it they're all NFP so they're very similar like s to me so we call like we're like very similar people and I was like sitting there I'm like I was pinching myself I was like I've never felt this silent in My

brain I feel like it's like the first time in my life did it feel good it felt crazy it feels crazy it was crazy it feels crazy it feel I hate it I hate it I need I mean I don't work 1% of how much I know you work but like when I have like an off when I like um when things get slow it makes me sick but that's what I'm saying but then this day was different right that's usually how I feel but I told him to turn it off but I Knew that

in 24 hours I'm going to go back to work so it wasn't the anxiety it was silent it was actually good yeah so I was that's when I was freaking out cuz I've never felt like usually I'm usually I feel I hate it like you said but I liked it and I was like this is really weird and ended up we ended up like bonding like over like drinks at the end of the day like we all started crying and I hadn't been like letting my emotions come out for such a long time I'd been

suppressing them because I didn't have time for it I don't have time I don't have the energy like I can't be emotional so I was like holding it all down and then I was like this was a crazy day and then I just started opening up and my friends were telling me like yeah you seemed a little like gone for for a minute and so like it feels good to have you back I was like yeah I always felt like it started to get really weird every time I talk about Emotions and anyone who yeah

anyone who would start talking about the emotions i' I'd literally like stand up and just go up be like I like I'd be like pissed off for some reason like I don't want to talk about this it's cuz I do you ever feel like it's like when someone else is talking about it it makes you confront your own and you're like I don't want to do this right now yeah I don't know why why do we end up talking about this I'm so sorry I why Are you apologizing are you are we supposed to be

talking about this yes one thing about me I know we just met is I am the most anxious in the world and what I really loved about what you said was when you said that you weren't anxious because you knew that you were going to work the day after not everyone's way of making themselves feel better is having work is it's having work but if it works for you it works for you and like that actually just Helped me cuz I'm like oh I actually love that like if I'm ever feeling that way like you

know I could take like an hour or two a day like you you can take you I think you have more time hopefully than you than you think and if if if it's going to make your work better you can tell your team like I need an hour friend FaceTime chill remove myself no tax this this is the thing so I tried it like a few weeks ago in New York I extended end my trip CU I went to have a Weekend but I ended up working like the whole day and I ended up like

and and then the weekend passed I was like that didn't feel like a weekend and then that's when I admitted I said to myself okay I'm somebody that doesn't know how to take a break right I did I literally said I'm going to take a break it did not was not fun at all ended up working all day and I was stressed all day and you know my brain didn't stop but then it was different this time cuz that's When I like I said I'm just not going to look at my pH pH don't text

me tomorrow so that was the difference I was like it was just like that action that I had to do right you have to set up boundaries yeah and I was like wow yeah cuz you get anxiety that if if someone's texting you that you're missing a text so if you know that no one's texting you and you're setting up that control and I've told them don't worry I'll look at it in 24 hours just please do not message me I Don't want to have to have the feeling of looking at my phone yeah um

it it works for you but usually like I'd feel bad about it but like I knew like up yeah because I was like okay soon sooner or later I'm going to start crashing and then it's going to be more difficult to for people to work with me because I slowly started feeling like I was like kind of avoiding things but usually I I'm the one that I'm like so what's happening with this what's happening With that I go to them usually that's me and so that's how the system runs but then I st started feeling

that I was like kind of like oh like dreading going to work dreading waking up and I was like okay that's diff that's not me so it's something happening and then that's why I took that one day off and I was like Wow and it it was a nice reset yeah it was what's your when's your birthday February 11th oh are you an aquarius I am you were giving such Virgo Just now really like you love like to control and make sure everything is like in your order okay it's very Virgo Virgo but then why

am I Virgo when I'm in aquarious so I don't obviously obiously don't like the basic basic basic basicness of it so I was you know I really didn't have anything else to say after that I was just like I was like oh she's giving Virgo okay oh she's like you just felt like I was a Virgo but I'm always wrong so that checks out that I Was wrong okay yeah I'm an aquarius but then when I'm working it's a different person well you do have a rising and a moon and your Rising is like what

you bring to work like you portray to your like portray to other people so if it's a Virgo I'm going to be really impressed with myself mhm but what do you what do you I'm a Scorpio okay I have my best friend's a Scorpio too yeah dark no I love them the best and I'm a Gemini rising and Gemini Moon okay dark that's How you perceive yourself and yes yes yeah and that's like moon is how I perceive myself Rising is how others perceive me sun I don't know okay like I need to do a

little more research before I start talking about this cuz I'm always wrong but like I'm always like oh she's giving Virgo just now okay so do you you want to talk about number one girl yeah I'm excited cuz you just showed it to me so we you're the first one that we I showed like I'm Honored like so that song Yes is about how you dealt with like online perception um yeah well yeah that's the base of the song um but it's like an emotion I think it's a universal emotion but yeah that was the

experience I grabbed from and then we wrote it yeah and how did that feel to write um so like it was a funny day I came back home from like an event and I was at the hotel I was doing back toback sessions um but like yeah so I guess From the event social anxiety um I was you know trying to be like my best self came home and the next day I was like I was actually you know what am I talking about came back home I was on inter the internet yeah doing my

daily check of negative comment yeah yeah but it' been like a minute since I hadn't been out um you know I hadn't been like I wasn't releasing music I hadn't been active because I was in the studio I was trying to really like work on like work on that And so I was trying to close off like my what do you call it um like your black pink Rosé yes yes and I needed to you know channel into like what I think every day like as like a normal person did you when you would go

in the studio would you like be conscious not to like go on Instagram and go on these like social and like read all these comments you would still read them okay that's me so that's that's very me I just to be myself but that's something I do they And you know what and that's fine I'm ashamed but I do uh I've my screen time you would be appalled you would be it's pretty disgusting as well like checking checking checking checking cheing um and so um yeah I'm just being my authentic self um but because I

like wasn't updating much and like I was still navigating my way I was recording every day so I wasn't posting I wasn't posting cute pics or anything I wasn't going out I didn't even feel like going out because I have nothing to celebrate life for I was like I need I have so much to do and so it was like not celebration time so like I I'm not presenting myself I'm not like really posting pictures and I know like everyone wants me to be like thriving like and you know success and that's what they wanted

but then in order for me to like you know on the yeah be on the Internet is when I have something but I didn't have anything in My hands and so like in my stance I'm like working really really hard and then but then the internet obviously and I find myself in like the the wrong part of the world in the social media world and I've put myself there obviously but I'm like where is this comment that ruin my day and and then I find a good one I'm like yeah keep scrolling and you're like

who responded to that de one like you're a real then I see a negative one and I'm Like by myself it's just like I'm like that's not true but the worst is when you read something that you've already thought about yourself oh yeah and you're like oh my God they notice it too but so you were reading these comments and and then I could get any sleep I probably slept at like 68 or something and then go to this dude and they were like how is your day and I was like it was really bad

yeah it had been like a few months Since because I'm not active like more people just have all the rights to say things and obviously I'm not going to respond or anything but it just keeps that Community was growing and thriving in their world I'm like the hater world and it's like weeds if you don't cut them they'll grow yeah basically and so I was like really like the anger actually got to me and like again I'm not usually like that I think usually I was like the me that I am usually it's Like I

really don't care about that because I trust in myself and I Know Myself and I know where I'm at and everything but it had been like months of that so it did get to me eventually and I hated it was it felt disgusting I think I like ended up crying lot like pull myself in the hotel room and I got there and I was like like I just I feel this way and um I wonder if like and this is the thing I did didn't like that part of me it wasn't like oh I feel

These emotions let's write this song was like I hated it I wanted to hide it and I had nothing else to talk about cuz like that day I was just feeling shitty so I didn't even want to talk about any like I don't want to talk about boys no nothing I was like GH yeah feels gross and so I was like that's it and and I was like I'm going to write the most vulnerable discussing the onest song about like how I really feel and because that's the real emotion and then and Then we started

writing and it was so much fun and it it was fun to write something sad it's like dis it's like you're shedding you're shedding it off of you like you know what I mean I like it doesn't have to be pretty every time we like we write something and it like it's like oh like so like comforting and nice no I was like just I more honest more vulnerable like I could have even gone even worse but I kind but yeah and so we wrote it but then I think I like The song because sometimes

I listen to it it reminds me of if I'm also going through a different thing let's say like I'm I want to be loved by somebody or something or like a group of people or whatever like it it it also transforms right so I sometimes listen to the song and it's nothing about like what what it's about when I wrote it but then like I'd relate to it in a different way as well that's the beauty of songwriting though and that's what that's what your Fans are and that's what everyone in the world is going

to feel like and I feel like it's going to be so cathartic for you to like see what that song means to other people I just think it's such a cool such a cool feeling especially when you write it yourself and you had a hand in writing all of this and like I just think I think all of this anxiety and this builtup um tension is it's going to feel like when you when you put Ros out December 6th December 6th it's going to Fe you're going to feel like the biggest just know I think

that it's going to be received beautifully I hope I was like so anxious about it near like when like the songs were like stacking up I was getting anxious about it but at this point I've lived with the album for long enough and and I know that it's just like it's like not much it's like just normal human emotions so it's like how could it go go wrong at this point and if I was yeah because it's like just So me and like a song that I relate to and I just feel of like a

normal girl in her 20s anyway I feel like you know people would be a to relate they will yeah they will if you don't like it then you don't like it I'm just exactly period there we go oh well with all of that being said oh my that was like the most beautiful therapist intro of all time wait that was an Intro I think okay I think I talked too much no no no you shouldn't second guess yourself as much as you do okay I want to stop doing that well you you know it's easier

said than done but like I'm always anxious that I present anxious and you don't at all you don't present anxious at all and I know that's not how you're feeling all the time but if you are ever anxious about that's how you're presenting and that causes you to second guess yourself just know that to Someone that's never met you before um that's not how it comes off thank you thank you you're welcome just want to say that um well before we get into the tell me what's wrongs and those that's where the ask questions and

we give them advice what are you are you therapist about anything today what brings you in today sorry what was like are you sorry are you therapist about anything am I pissed off anything Pissing you off about anything today h cuz I just had my Sunday off you did I'm very therapized oh you're very therap pleased therap right now I've been like really working on my mental health but this is it's funny to say this cuz I'm like I'm usually work work work so I don't actually usually say this like I'm working on myself is

not like a phrase that I usually use so I've been trying to think really positive and just like In like real time so I'm like trying to don't maybe not I don't think I that's so admirable do you know why also like today I was like like is this an interview and usually like I always have like somebody like drop me off and I was like I I want to drive today I like you know actually I want to drive so I like let my driver go and like I had like the nicest drive over

here like right now amazing and like I was like the weather's so nice today uhhuh it so nice And I just had like a playlist on and I was like wow I'm like really H like it's really been only like two three days I've been like trying to tell myself how happy I am and that you know I'm grateful I'm like trying to live in real time positive self talk yeah cuz usually I'm like not living in real time I live in like my God I shouldn't have said I shouldn't have said okay to that

like 3 days ago like why did we do that I don't understand that and then the future like So if we're going to do that like I have to like you make sure that this is like this and like then then what like I'm always talking about some time that's not like now right but like today was a good day cuz it was like a podcast and I knew I'd be meeting you and I felt like it was going to be a chill I just it yeah and my homework is just to be myself today

so I don't really have as as you are yeah and so I was like I'm going to wake up and I did my own makeup Today I don't know if I did well girl can we yes you did well you ate than you ate I tried hard I didn't do my own hair but I did my own makeup and then so like and then I was like I'm going to drive myself and so it's just like a good day for me and I also have like something I have like a rehearsal later on I've been

anxious about it but like I've been trying to do this thing where it's like I'll go and I trust myself and I'm it's going to be it always ends up being good Cuz I know myself I'm I'm way too antsy and detailed to leave it yeah let it be bad so just in myself I have a nice little podcast I'm going to go for like you know a little chitchat and then get there like do it well it's going to be good and so that's why if like if you ask me what when I'm pissed

off right now I'm so happy it's nothing and then you know what you're going to do after the rehearsal relax relax relax yeah until the next until the next day yeah So you said you were having a little playlist on on the way here what are you listening to right now I was listening to a uh how do you pronounce her name Clara Clara yeah I was just listening to her whole she's great yeah I've only just started listening and it's like it's so nice to listen to it in the LA weather oh yeah Claro's

like ultimate La I've only like just started listening so it's like if you ask me which song you like I'll like oh I don't I don't know The nam I I like the fourth song on the playlist yeah but that whole thing she has this song called feel something How does it go how does it go I might know want to feel something I I don't feel nothing wait maybe I haven't gone to that song yet maybe not oh and then it turns out it's the second song yeah you're like oh just that shouldn't sound

like that yeah I'll be like no I would think You sang it way too like good you you like perance I didn't recognize it thank of course it was very like Seline Dion that I could oh but yeah so that's so you're listening to claro is there anything else you're listening to right now anyone else oh I had been listening to I've been listening to um a lot of uh CU it's like sometimes you don't know what to play but I have a song with Bruno so I like it's kind of my drive go driving

Really yeah apparently I do um so that's usually the fun playlist to play cuz it's like that song has edged its way into my brain it is that pre chorus is one of the most most addicting preuses I have heard that I'm dead ass serious this decade it's like pop Perfection how was working with Bruno cuz you guys are like best friends at this point besties ah cuz what he no cuz he posted the most outrageous F like he's crazy my job I was like wait what the hell is Happening like literally he joked about

it and I called him twice be like don't do it you're going to get you're going to get cancelled like literally he was laughing he was like this going to be so funny I was like don't you I was like don't don't you dare usually I'll tell him once and then I was like oh I feel like he's going to actually do it hold him again literally I was like don't do it and he's like oh like just post the picture just post the Picture and then and then I was like okay I'm going to

tease it now and then I tease it and then he leaves a comment and I'm like oh my God I was screaming I was like getting oh my God I was getting on a flight cuz I need to like um so I was like getting to the airport right like packing my bags and cuz I just posted I was like just check and and then I'm like literally mid packing and I'm like I like screamed and like my team Like ran in they're like what happened did someone die you're like no Bruno just posted the

most annoying caption I've ever seen and I was like he's crazy and then like and then we're on the way to the airport and then like I'm in the car and then I'm just like trying to check like you know like the reactions and stuff I'm like oh he posted the like the other picture and he has that whole fanfic thing and I'm like Are you kidding me you haven't seen this Nolan it is the craziest up I was my jaw hit the floor but can I tell you it was the best song promo ever

he knew what he was doing clearly the song's like number one in the world he was just like it's going to be so funny and I'm like I called him and I'm like you're crazy and he's like Rosie it's like hilarious people are going I'm like this is Ser I was like this is serious for me I've been waiting You know to release a song for so long and like you're so oh no but yeah he's funny it was funny a pain in your ass but he's funny yeah he did lift the mood up because

usually you get so anxious when you start teasing things like it's like a moment where like you get so like as an artist like you get so vulnerable cuz you know you have we've been working on this for so long and it has to be good and it has to be the right decision so usually you're really anxious but you Know the whole day I was just like yeah like and light in the mood that is nice yeah did you guys record that in studio together initially written the song a year ago and I had

that song for a long time uh but it's like it so pop right it's like it kind of sits a little differently to my the rest of my songs of my album and so I didn't know really what to do with it but I knew that it did something to people every time I play it to anyone they would always like Text me like a week later like a month later be like when's that song coming out I can't get it out of my head so I knew it did something to people cuz I mean

the initial thought of writing it was it was written because it did something to people they were doing the Chen I was huh okay it's triggering something so we have to do it um and the song did the same and so I was doing that and then I then I signed to Atlantic and then congratulations thank You congratulations yay thank you I'm happy I found a home um and then he I found out he was in the label and then I was like do you think do you think he would and then he jumped on

it and then he did his little genius sprinkle right all over the song and made it that like you know the S is and um and then he like came up with he was like you know from the studio and like he was like playing guitar and like drums and then he started talking about the ideas of The video like At first he'd like like send these like video references i' be like cool wow be like cool he's like Rosie we have like this seems like an idea like okay cool that was like very beginning

stages and then he started talking about looks he's like oh my God this is a really cool look um and then he'd be like oh like you know this is a really cool look on you and then it get gets me thinking about like what kind of look I should be in and like and I like It was like a building the world that World um but like he had it in his head I think like like a whole month before or like few months the past like two months or something and then he like

throw things at me and then he let me know that this is like how it's developing and like it was all just like little like hints and clues so I didn't really get it and then I remember I walked up to the video set and I was like huh I get it right right I get it Now um and it was like the most fun shoot I've had in my whole entire life it was fun like everything you see in the video that's literally how it was yeah laughing the whole time is he really funny

no he is funny but that day he was like director mode so I was like do director he was director mode but then like the things that we were doing were hilarious like he's like where we have to do this like thing and it's like We're like being like twins right but it was just funny it was like laughing the whole cuz it's like we had to I don't know if I'm allowed to Spill the tea but like we had to record it like slowly but then so like you can't really so I can kind

because it's so fast motion we like so it's was like H but then so like it's not real time so I can be laughing and you can't really see it it's going to be like this anyway I was like the whole time I was Like okay I'm dying this is so funny I'm dying this is so Hest thing it was just funny and is that like the first time you like had to like do like it in slow motion yeah yeah it was oh my God the next day I felt I woke up feeling like

a pregnant lady I was like I literally was like oh my God I can't get up I was like you had to cuz it hurt like your back hurt yeah like my the whole back hurt because the whole video was done like right like the slowest of Motions like Like this and you don't usually do this workout yeah cuz you have to like make sure sorry I just cut you off no I think I did that I did that the whole day today I'm sorry I I'm the worst I cut they sorry sorry we're both

like constantly apologizing the same people I think we are like you walked in you were telling me about your anxiety I was like oh this will be great oh this will be great I was like trauma Bundy yeah no literally literally when you meet Someone else with like your same anxiety like oh you're like oh we're good yeah we're good like you know what I mean like but who doesn't have anxiety some people don't right I think crazy people don't like when people when people tell me that they are not anxious I'm like do you

think do you know what I mean I'm like do you have time to think yeah do you even think have you ever seen the movie um inside out too oh yeah okay that like helped me understand my Anxiety so much more yeah because it's like oh my God I say that sometimes sometimes when I'm doing the freaking out thing oh my cut you off I'm sorry no I like say it out loud I'm like anxiety has taken over the control right yes it has it has it has anxiety has taken over my control room for

25 years so like she's sitting there and she's like comfortable she's she's had in charge up there but like you know like like she is sitting there and she's Like running the show but like it's it checked out it's like oh like anxiety like does just want to help yeah but it just intentions good intentions and I'm like yeah like we're good good should we get into the tell me what's wrongs okay yes do it I think you're going to have fun with them yes do it now these um I've literally been like yeah right

like it's like been slipping out my usually better because we it sucks that we have to hold this I know do this H hold on You don't understand I got a haircut last night yes I like had my entire yes I cleaned my entire house I was like I was like no like Ros is coming over like for me yes it was for you are you kidding other than that I'm like throwing on I'm like oh they know someone will pick it up and my roommates are like I'm going to kill you I'm the worst

roommate okay you ready yeah I know my boyfriend of four years Is about to propose and I've given him no reason to think I'd say no but I feel like maybe I should say no he's just kind of been giving me the ick for the past five months is that normal very why is that why would that not be normal I think it's normal too I feel like that's pre-engagement Jitters or maybe oh well I've never been engaged neither of I've also never had a boyfriend so like I'm the worst but like I If that

was me I don't know like cuz cuz the difficult thing about anxiety is like sometimes you're like is this real like are these emotions that I'm feeling real and like should I act on them or are they just anxiety but to me it sounds like she doesn't want to be engaged to him the ick is a it's a real thing yeah that's a real thing but I don't think it might not be she might feel bad cuz she starts feeling like she's not liking him But then she's he's probably a good guy whatever but it's

probably not about him it's probably about something um about the about each other like probably about something she wants and what she doesn't want and and it has nothing to do with that guy being a bad guy or a good guy probably needs much more conversation and love in the conversation not not focusing on the ick but focusing on like um the love and then once you start talking in love I Think you can start picking out real problems and really nurturing each other for about those problems so I think it probably be best if

you don't focus on the ick but because of the ick you should start bringing out emotions and conversations but out of love not like negativity like we're about to get engaged and I don't want to get engaged with you not that but like let's talk about this like I'm feeling a little bit of an ick and I don't know why then she Probably she probably has to think about what she thinks what she's thinking instead of about him giving him her the ick damn you give amazing advice I'm like kind of freaking out I'm literally

like break up with him oh my God am I boring am I like a no that he just he was left speechless that was like the best did anyone out there hear that advice yes that was like incredible advice I feel like a grandma with my glasses it's like okay so h no That was like wise and like thoughtful I'm like he's giving you the dump him like oh my God I have no notes and nothing else to say cuz my advice is so bad but yeah like maybe the ick I I don't know I

feel like people like she's hiding a lot inside cuz she has this feeling he's going to propose he's going to propose he's going to propose she needs to say something yeah you know cuz like maybe you don't want to break up with him maybe the conversation Will Make Her Like be reassured and make her love him more again 100% probably that's probably going to happen if she I think so too I hope so cute have a great marriage you that going to get married I want to get married I want to get married so bad

really kind of I just want a boyfriends like I want a boy I I want one so bad let do let's talk about it get one I I don't know like I've been searching for one my whole life and I'm like I just Want you can make don't search for it we can make just like we can create there are like you know great people out there I'm sure okay yeah I I getting what you're picking up let's let's go on the let's go on the Hun let's go on the hun I fear I have

a case of the terrible 20s some of my friends are getting married I'm not some have kids not me some have houses and I feel like I'm nowhere near ready for any of that I Often get super down because of it I'm hoping 30s are the new 20s they are GH so she she's getting like anxiety because people around her are so Happ getting married and buying houses and like well what when has that only like been a good like my question is like getting married and getting a house like why is that the status

SCH of being happy is my question some people have miserable experiences some people have miserable Experiences there and sometimes I feel like oh I'm so happy that I'm I always girl like that should have be I don't know boring like Grandma why do you think this is boring this is like I'm like actually taking this in there is no status quo for happiness there shouldn't be at least like what if you're if you are not happy because you're basing your happiness in relation to other people around you you're never going to be happy which is

hard for me to learn Because I compare myself to everyone everything all the time but it really is true side note do you ever like when you touch this like do you ever like to tap the top really softly and it's a little Airy and it feels like oo I've tried everything this oh I really really like this there are some people who like which that gives me so much anxiety when I see my friends do it like they do this nope until it pops no no no I hate That I was like you're you're

Psychopathic it's like trying to pop a balloon yeah I'm like you need to get therapy you need to get therapy you need to get therapist you need to be here you need to be right here wait I I'm sorry I'm my ADHD brain is like moving from thing to thing to thing but I've been so desperate to ask you do you like what do you watch do you watch TV I wish I've been so busy I haven't had time to just sit down and just focus on something so I think should like give oh my

God I have suggestions what what type of stuff do you like like what's your Thriller comedy heartfelt oh like TV Bas I like I like the dating program the dating do you watch Love Island um yeah I used to and then the Australian one was really fun yeah and then um I and then I started watching Korean ones have you watched the Korean ones oh my gosh are they that's a whole new world really yes what's different about them like so like Like the the love violence stuff like like first date they're already like making

out and everything but um the Korean ones are like last episode and they hold their each other head and everyone's like hands is the vibe right right right oh my God he gave her a hug is the like 15th episode wait I want that but it's like so good to watch have you ever watched any K dramas squid game is Korean now yeah oh squid squid game do You watch squid game yeah I watched it in like three days season 2 is about to come out yeah I saw the bill so excit squid game was

the billboard my addiction my addiction and like I I became really down bad for squid game and now I'm really excited for season two yeah I saw the I I uh bumped into the actor like you know have you seen the billboard the main character and he's changed his hair red and like I saw him at lakma the other day and he like He's really nice to me he's always like hi Ros like it's good to see you he like and I was like so addicting he's like on the billboard in LA and was like

do you know that's like one of the most watched Netflix shows of all time really yeah of all time kind of deserves it it was fun the most watched it is the most watched did you watch squid game I did when it first came out yeah same no same for me I was a bit late to it cuz everyone was Like squid game squid game squid game and me being me I'm like I'll watch it Sunday and then I think I got I think it was like I got Co or something and I was like

stuck home and so I like turned on the first episode and like the next day I'm like on my last episode and I finish it and like that was me and I wasn't I I'm always very like hesitant of like when everyone's like everyone loves a show I'm always like I know like I'm always like really you like it yeah I Don't know don't think it'll be my thing until I'm OBS every and then I'm like damnn like there's this show called tell me lies oh tell me lies I think you would like it I

think you would like it it's about a very toxic relationship in college but it's very soapy it's very soap opery and it's very like um it's just it's it's very dramatic there's twists and turns and The Mink eyy is so hot okay very important yeah very hot and it's I think you would really really Really like it okay tell me lies yeah and then H you don't like like you don't like um scary stuff I mean if I have friends to watch it with maybe you don't like high stress things do you cuz you're already

not right now okay cuz my life cuz my favorite show I just started watching was the show called industry mhm and it's but that's like the highest of stress so maybe maybe none of that okay but maybe sometime when I'm maybe sometime when you're like I need I need Excit yeah I need excitement I need excitement backal okay there's this one girl that copies my every move from the same Nails Tik Tok videos pictures anything you can pick think of the worst part is we have the same name what do I do enjoy it yeah

like enjoy I think imitation is the highest form of flattery which is frustrating sometimes um but people also don't copy me so like but also it depends if that girl is a mean like mean to her and then copying Everything that's like a bit annoying but if she's just like copy being her just become besties and then Bond over she obviously likes your stuff and like GI tips and whatever but then then again like I said if that girl is a little bit of like mean and then copy everything this is this is annoying I

think you're one of the nicest people I've ever met I really yes no I'm I'm mean you're like oh They're copying you just befriend them them and then you get Rid of the stress I'm having a lot of fun with you oh really have you ever done a podcast before Oh oh my gosh I don't think I have I am so honored oh my this is my first podcast I am but why do I feel so like relaxed yeah catching up with my girlly that's what it feels like Jake it's been way too long and

I still can't get over one of my best friends I know she doesn't feel the same but I overthink moments that have Happened which is what makes me think of what could have been so they had like a friendship Fallout wait so what happened do you think she the girl is kind of left or she it's unclear but what it feels like they had a mutual falling out and it feels like if she wanted it back she could get it back but she knows that it's not good for her oh it's not good for her

that girl's not good for her and I've had I've had friendship breakups and in the moment they feel so It's the closest thing I've ever had to a real breakup and in the moment they feel so Earth shattering but then I feel like when you think of yourself right now and you and you list like four or five things that you're grateful for right now MH they would not be here if you did not let that person go is how I try to view it nice thank you super nice thank you no I think that's

exactly what she should do is just don't be dram and I Don't know maybe that's a bit hard to say no no say like yeah like I think I got a dramatic of something once and then and then I was just like just live a simple life right says somebody who's so not simple no but you can find the Simplicity in anything yeah but like just being just acknowledging it and then not defining that Fallout with a like thinking that like it's a failure Shea feeling that she's feeling like it's a failure like I invested

all This time in this relationship and now it's done yeah but sometimes relationships are meant to be there to teach you something yeah and then let go yeah and they're just like just don't think of it as a failure just think of this is today she's not in my life today and then later on let's say five years she could be and then just even when she does come back in just naturally let it be don't be so dramatic 100% yeah chill says the girl that's the least chill and On us you know what though

sometimes the people that give the best advice can't take their own advice so that's why people say do as I say not as I do true very true so Ros what did we learn today we learned that I am not therapist at anything today as of today which is a great sign I mean she had a great time in the therapist office literally this is the best start to my day stop literally are you serious I'm not even Joking I'm going to feel so good after this I don't feel like I worked at all stop

literally this is an extension to my weekend you guys you guys thank you for having me are you kidding thank you for being here oh my God everybody Rose's new album Rosie comes out December 6th and her new single number one girl is out now as well as her new single aate with Bruno Mars go stream it go listen to it go cry to it Go cry go dance go dance to it go do it all do it all Ros thank you for being here thank you so I love you I love you love you

I love you thank you goodbye goodbye he's got you on the hook he's slaying and he's shook it's therus therus therus therus