I do believe wholeheartedly why why do you think he must why not I've been on this tight tight rope between sanity and falling off the ne it's been a year since the mobilizing power of a conspiracy theory nearly brought the US to its needs I would love a physical battle but I know are you going to be fighting Elites or whatever yes please in 2020 I reported on the dramatic rise of interest in kinon during the pandemic sacrifices children being babies being sacrificed a year on from the attack in Capitol Hill that the movement played
such an important part in I wanted to find out if people are still held firmly in its grip the sentencing of the shaman is moments away and like any good show stay seated the people who attacked Capitol Hill weren't all qanon followers but the movement was a rallying Force for that day and it's a qanon Believer Jacob Chanley or the qanon shaman who's become the face of January 6th Jacob was arrested and pled guilty to obstruction of Congress I was in Washington DC to meet with Albert Watkins his lawyer from the first moment that I
spoke with him it became really clear that this was a kid who was being he was an underdog of monumental proportions when Jacob was in the military at 19 he was diagnosed with a mental health disorder that the military kept from him Albert says that left Jacob searching for something there are a lot of people who have mental health problems but they don't storm the capital building you're right there are not many who have mental health vulnerabilities that were diagnosed in 2006 but didn't have it told to them it's about Jake it's not about the
shaman but what is it that Jacob got wrapped up in kunan followers believe that a cabal of Satan worshipping pedophiles run the government and media and that they traffic children for Satanic rituals they claim that a group of military officials together with Donald Trump are fighting back a survey by the polling organization ipsos seen exclusively by the BBC found that 7% of Americans still believe that this is true that's down from 177% last year but it's still 22 million people [Music] while I was in the US I wanted to catch up with Nick Natoli because
back in 2020 I met Nick on the internet the pandemic wasn't real and the race war isn't Real's my country and he had some pretty controversial views I first started speaking to Nick about 18 months ago at the very beginning of the pandemic but speaking to him over the past few weeks it seems like his opinion has changed when everything unfolded in January 6th what were you thinking I'm so embarrassed to be a part of this group right now get us off National Television what are we doing is that the capital is that is that
is that a shaman things have changed with you I think a bit I don't want to believe in some of these nefarious Terrible Things the information that I've researched has led me there so when the information that I've researched has not led me to there and president Trump is not the president and Jo Biden's our president then yeah like I'm going to be a realist and say that this isn't what I thought was going to happen you know a lot of people were supposed to get arrested that didn't happen recently Nick hasn't been consuming as
much qanon content because it's been banned from a lot of mainstream social media but it's migrated to less popular platforms I've been in touch with a lot of different Q andon followers mostly through the messaging app telegram many of them were hostile and I was blocked from the app after some complaints but some were really friendly and obliging Keen to help me understand the gravity of what it is they think is going on in the world the alliance has gotten rid of the the dark entities that were with our government sacrifices children being babies being
sacrificed um do your family know about it no I no I can't let them know I received hundreds of messages links and videos evidence they said of the conspiracy fellow truth Seekers it looks to me like a portal opened more than once someone agreed to meet in person and at the last minute they backed out they seem so willing and open to talk to us and to share all this stuff that they think is so important and then am I just afraid that we're going to twist their words all except Kim [Music] Kim is a
dog groomer living in [Music] La she got into Qin on just over a year ago as many other people were starting to have doubts I've always been one for the underdog even when I was a kid I was like really I was really odd child I'm a deep thinker what is it that you think is going on in the world right now what is going on it's not think it's out in our faces what is going on the elites we've been suppressed we've been lied to all of our lives and now our eyes are open
we're taking our country back we're going back to our Republic facts only facts Suz Canal remember that M it was deliberately knocked into that and lodged in there because what was on it thousands and thousands of children and women the sex trafficking and adrenal Chrome and also those vaccines this might be hard to follow but it's Q andon 101 everything that happens every story in the news gets linked to the cabal nothing is as it seems because they believe everyone is lying to you we're probably going to have to save ourselves and they're going to
push us too far uh the Calm before the storm it's like like again you don't tell you think people will take up arms oh we and I'm looking forward to that that is our constitutional right I would love a physical battle but I know what you going to be fighting Elites or whatever or the UN the supposed un yes please mainstream media all complacent they admitted it it's always it's never changed that's us so um yeah again I don't honey you just work for him I call you an innocent and you're a baby too I
will be there to defend you I heard this from other Q andon Believers because this is a movement working to convince people that we're at War now naturally once as we spend time together Nick and I sat down to watch some videos from a qanon conference in Las Vegas oh my God Jim cavel was there from the slavery that sin makes out of all of us the actor has been open about his belief in the conspiracy that's what this is about I'll be honest with you right now in this fing moment Stephanie I do believe
wholeheartedly why why do you think he must why not why not he's been places I haven't been he's met people I don't know he's probably in contact with a lot of military people who know about this military operation why would you think that why would he be here for the same reason that you would be there if if you were a famous actor and it would be useful for them to get you in as Speaker he is no longer going to be cast in any Hollywood movies people think he's absolutely insane a story but this
energize Nick and here was a glimpse into just how easily he could slip back into all of this he could get pulled back in to all of it hold up hold up hold I want to stop you um in the words of Spock it's only [Laughter] logical an update on that breaking news we told you about just moments ago Jacob Chanley the self-proclaimed qanon Shaman is going to now spend more than 3 years in prison good afternoon thanks for talking to us today I'm fun but not that much fun thank you all Jacob Chanley was
just sentenced to 41 months minus the 10 months he's already been in jail um it seemed like the judge was really receptive to his plea spoke to him for a long time about how remorseful he was and which he'd been punished already seems like the judge took it on board Jacob spoke at length about his abusive childhood and his mental health problems he painted a picture of someone who was vulnerable but full of remorse for what he'd done he said he just wanted to get better he didn't speak about Kon I caught up with Albert
again later that day to find out what role he thought Konan would play in Jacob life now do you think he's left it behind completely well the excitement that he has knowing now the answer to his question is so elevated about his mental health that all he wants is to start that process of being helped and getting the help he [Music] needs despite what Albert says I wasn't sure that qinon is something that that Jacob can leave behind that easily an incarcerated individual at Alexandria Detention Center a few weeks after his sentencing Jacob decided to
appeal he fired Albert and started doing interviews with rightwing media you know a secret society within the United States would be the individuals that attend Satanic rituals people are waking up and they are seeing that you know what there's something else going on here with this whole 1984 agenda he was starting to sound like the qanon shaman [Music] again it's clear that leaving qanon is hard because these are people that have been led to doubt everything and that doubt is a powerful force and it's waiting in the wings e
