Fidelity said of their millions of accounts that they have the average over the last 10 years has been 40% over 10 years not 40% a year 40% over 10 years what misconceptions do people have about the stock market they think it's just for the elite I think the reality is it's open for all of [Music] us hey guys welcome to my home uh today I have Pete and John nerian super Traders Market Rebellion they've been trading stocks for 40 years publicly your track record uh speaks like volumes and I'm just so excited about the partnership
that we're providing our audience that wants to get involved in calls and puts and options and things I don't understand yet I'm super excited because they're going to teach me while they share this information with you and simplify and demystify the stock market I guess what I want to know okay why did you guys pick me to do this with oh well uh a whole bunch of reasons not the least of which I mean when I met you I liked you I knew you had a passion for helping people for uh democratizing real estate investment
yeah and that is so cool because so many people can benefit from that my wife is one of them she you know jumped on uh one of your projects and she's been happy about it and she gets a monthly check yeah and you know she's got she's got two men taking care of her that's right well at least one or at least one yeah but uh well that real estate takes care of you you know when when when when the guy can't right or when your paycheck can't that's right and what what we thought was
our purpose for the last shoot 253 years has been to democratize the stock market yes to demystify it to let people understand how things really work in the stock market so I think that way you know we're aligned in what you do democratizing real estate investment and making it fairer for investors and that's what we're all about too yeah and one of the things I think that really stood out about you was that you were pushing back yeah you know I think that made it made it even more interesting that made you intriguing because you're
pushing back and I think you're pushing back for a lot of the right reasons so we wanted to open it up for you just to say hey you know what here's the way you can actually do it this is how you can approach the stock market and you have a very open mind so you're willing to at least listen and all of a sudden we started having conversations and yeah it started to elevate a little bit more a little bit more and you realize you know what maybe there is another way to do this whole
thing cuz I thought guys that the only way to buy stocks was you buy a stock you get it right or you don't get it right you either sell make money or you you you know and then you regret that you didn't buy more yeah or you you you take your loss and then I got to do it again and then when you guys started talking to me about the other ways that the inside shers are doing it so when you guys started telling me about the footprints of data uh what do you call it
unusual activity unusual yeah that that became very intriguing to me that we could democratize and make Wall Street available to the everyday person yeah because I mean like right now uh every few years you get something like roaring Kitty that comes along and it's a guy that drives a bunch of people into a stock um and the stock jumps it goes up a lot but then it comes down just as fast as it went up um so it's almost a rigged game in that regard because everybody says oh roaring kitties in I'm going to jump
in on GameStop I'm going to jump in on AMC the movie theater chain and but by the time we've read it it's too late right right he's getting out when they're getting in yeah and so we want to get in when those big trades are happening not after uh and so that's one of the things we've developed algorithms and other stuff that helps us follow and find my best investor is somebody that's been educated first sure not that just puts money in first right and so when we talked and we talked about educating the public
and make simplifying it and and boiling it down to the Simplicity of what some of the stuff you guys explain to me that that that became interest in me to help the public 70% of our audience is investing in the stock market and I'm not providing them with any tools so and we wanted to open that door I mean we wanted to open that door so that people could understand that hey look this is not just for the elite this is they've told you that forever right I mean the stock market's only for these rich
guys that are walking around with sweaters and sweater vests and all that fun stuff right but the reality is anybody can be involved and I mean at at any level at any age they can they as long as they are educated and have that side of it they can actually start moving the chips onto them a little bit gives the opportunity and that's what we're trying to do is simplifying it not trying to say Hey look it's the easiest thing in the world and you buy is going to go up but try to simplify exactly
what it is how you can kind of position yourself into that and with that how do you protect yourself as well if you can get all of that together and you can that's a great day what misconceptions do people have about the stock market they think it's just for the elite uhuh I mean that really I mean I I I've used that expression before but I think the reality is it's open for all of us they just have we we're trying to let people know that this is something that they can do if they want
to participate in the market they can it's not something that's just for a certain class of people it's for everybody and why not take advantage of that yeah you don't need to have an i League education and you don't need a bunch of money either no you don't and like in real estate you need a lot of money let's keep it real yeah um in in trading you don't need to have a big chunk of money to start with like what could what could somebody start with 5,000 bucks you know $2 to $5,000 would probably
be where you need to be um but once you have that now all of a sudden you can get multiples on the return like most people Grant I looked at a Fidelity statement the other day Fidelity said of their millions of accounts that they have the average over the last 10 years has been 40% over 10 years not 40% a year 40% over 10 years 4% 40 but 40% over 10 years means so 4% per year yeah it's it's barely keeps up with inflation that doesn't sound that great does and that's just somebody that throws
money into a 401k and says okay grow and now you're all of a sudden right at inflation you're not even keeping up with inflation if you do that so if you understand how to move into the right direction um how to uh invest in the right kinds of stocks where's the momentum right now is the momentum in OIC stocks you know stocks that are making people uh more healthy thinner this that the other thing yeah that's where momentum is right now Lily Nova disc I mean many of these uh companies are where the momentum is
that's where the smart money is investing and you don't you just don't want to be late to the party because they love doing these things but how does somebody like like for me to me it's a very complicated so many how many different stocks are there 7, thousands yeah so when somebody gets started with us on the educational portion okay are they going to be looking at 7,000 stocks no so simplify that part they they want to they want to be able to break down and John and I have always talked about this as well
what do you think you know best about things is it I mean it could be as simple as saying hey you know what I see what's going on with Walmart we just had earnings just the other day by the way in Walmart turns out they're doing pretty damn good why are they doing so well well because the trade down that happened when people were very concerned over the last couple years and the trade down they all of a sudden realized you know what Walmart's not such a bad place all sudden you look at their earnings
and they're absolutely crushing it why are they crushing it well because people that went there all of a sudden realized you know what they they got demystified they realized this is a different company than they thought it was so you're saying for the person that the family that's shopping at Walmart that's the place to start that's one of the places or maybe you're going to Costco every day or maybe you're downloading AI you you got three the place to start is the stuff you're using like something you're familiar with something you know something you understand
very s it could be whatever y yeah if you're somebody who for instance you go to O'Reilly water Auto Parts or you go to Advanced Auto Parts or and you're spending 800 bucks there to do something boom hey man the line of people waiting to check out and you're saying this place must be doing okay yeah so any place you spend money would be a place to start like right yep that's what Peter Lynch always said invest in what you know I used to always do this thing called boots on the ground I haven't done
it in a long time but that's what I do every single day boots on the ground means I'm walking around I'm looking at things I see how many Yachts are out there down here all the different boats that people don't realize is Minnesota's got 10,000 lakes that means there's a hell of a lot of boats up there right and there are but if you see anything start to change is it snowmobiles is it this you know there's a lot of different you just look at the companies where where are people spending their money right you
see restaurants that have a line you know in and out Burg is not not publicly traded but something like that you see a line out the door Chick-fil-A whatever it might be all of a sudden there's an idea and you start looking around all right well they might be taking business away from mcdonal so do you want to actually go to McDonald's maybe not you know all these things come into and it's literally just by having boots on the ground walking around and seeing what you have with your own eyes and that's very similar to
real estate you know it's like we we look at where where am I going where are people going I'm looking at where people are building homes or not and and that's where we make our place so there is some similarities let's just talk about that what are the similarities between investing in a stock and and me going out and finding a great real estate deal or there any similarities there are some I think um what you do Grant in my mind anyway is you invest an awful lot like Warren Buffett Warren Buffett says I won't
buy a stock unless it's a stock I'd be comfortable owning for years even if the market shut down well your side of investing in real estate is something you're not flipping that thing in two months right you're buying it with the intention of milking it getting all that great Revenue selling it after the appreciation getting that better tax treatment and all that kind of stuff same thing with stocks same thing with stocks except you have a lot more liquidity in the short term you can get in and out of stocks I wouldn't tell most people
that they should try to do that on a daily or a weekly basis but you can and I would say you can where you can't do that in real estate exactly that's impossible exactly and so with uh stock so you get some liquidity that's a benefit to meet people that of dollars of liquidity a day that yep that just people buying and selling stocks it's literally of those 7,000 stocks trillions of dollars in and out because for every buyer there's a seller well somebody's going to time it wrong and they're going to miss out too
bad and somebody's going to be right and make some money and that's why Warren Buffett always says you know let's wait and be patient about that investment so people can do that with stocks too they get the preferential stock treatment of taxes long-term capital gains you hold that stock for a year you get capital gains 20% instead of whatever 50 yeah um you can also be in there and match up your losses against your gains and take your taxable liability down so there are so many things you can do but just nobody has told people
about uh Financial Independence that they can achieve by owning and trading stocks it's all about financial literacy and then by by knowing that and and understanding it I think the most important thing really is the difference being liquidity I mean to your point you do the real EST estate thing that's that's a much more difficult process right it takes some time it doesn't it's not something where you bought it today it's gone up significantly you're selling it on Friday you know it's are you there right sooss I think liquidity is really something of a game
changer to be honest with you because it gives you that opportunity and that that's something that that makes it even more fun and the liquidity is going to be there yeah it's not going anywhere and you talked to me last night about also the potential to create Cash Flow by using some of these other strategies that the big boys use that you just watch what they're doing can you just talk about how how do I create cash flow for a family we can show folks how not just that dividend that the stock pays again using
Warren Buffett uh that dividend is giving money to Perfect Strangers um so uh uh you know most of the folks that have invested in your real estate that you that portfolio multi-billion dollar portfolio of real estate you've got um for the most part nobody no company not Apple not Google none of these companies know how many shareholders you know by name they don't you know but those people are Black Rock Vanguard Black Stone State Street all of those folks they're they're holding the 401ks and all the rest for all these folks well that's an opportunity
we think to really uh move it to the next level to get that dividend which anybody can get anybody that owns Apple stock is going to get a 2% dividend anybody that don't owns a Reit uh that are publicly traded Reit going to get 5 to 6% uh dividend but they get it every quarter which is money but there's also the calls and the options that we're going to be teaching people about right and you guys are going to be teaching me how to do this while the audience learns so any of you that are
interested in getting involved in the educational part the financial literacy part of Wall Street to demystify simplify make it easy you can get started with a very little bit of money we're doing a partnership where we're going to provide this kind of education uh to our audience well your hat says it all cash flow right so when when you think about that that's what we're trying to create for people they're not only getting the dividend that's already there they're going to have mostly they're going to have some BuyBacks and stuff but that's where we can
enh enhance this whole thing we can kind of create that cash flow that people are looking for and it might be at least it could be once a month that they're getting a little bit more flow a little bit more flow it could be each week it all just depends on what that stock is how they actually what kind of liquidity that particular name has because some are very liquid some are less liquid but it gives you the opportunity at least to create a little bit more cash flow as as you've bought that stock yeah
and would you want uh when I gave that example from Fidelity where they have uh you know uh over a 10-year period somebody that put in a million dollar now has a million4 that's a 40% return over 10 years but the rule of 72 is that if you're making 7.2% you're your money should double every 10 years they don't most people aren't coming close to that and that's because they just leave their money in the 401K Ira Schwab account whatever it is and they don't do anything with it and none of those places are incented
to get people uh educated about this is how you can really make money in the stock market they just want that money sitting there so they can lend it out like a bank so why do you guys think $34 trillion has gone into IAS and uh because they bought into that big lie they bought into the lie that if they throw this money in here how much money do you think Goldman Sachs makes or any of the big brokerage firms Money Center Banks how much do you think they make off of your money if you
send them a whole bunch of money on the 401K I guarantee they're making a better return than you are and then they're going to charge you fees on top of it end of story and people only think that's the only way they can go right that's all they got that's all they know that's all they got so guys you talked about the system being rigged and the cards are stacked okay how how is that a reality well because anytime you want to try to follow smart money anytime that you would like to be in the
investment that Warren Buffett that Ray Delio that any of these guys are in um you're not hearing about it until they tell you on TV 3 months after they've actually done it they're probably getting out when you're getting in and do you guys see it oh yeah you see the activity before beautiful things about what we do for a living is we do see it um they'd have to have all the right algorithms that's why they want to see what we are seeing yeah yep great so we're going to show that to them y so
what do the big guys know that Grant and the everyday investor does not know the biggest investors out there on Wall Street the hedge funds the Warren buffets and so forth they spend billions of dollars on commissions they've got teams of analysts that are looking at the stocks and they know when Elon Musk is going to come out with a statement on an analyst day and they're going to get in there and get in there ahead of it so if you had that money to spend Grant which none of us resarch commissions Brokers if you're
trading millions of shares a day you're generating millions of dollars in commissions every day for one of these big firms they're the guys that get the first shot at the best information it sounds to me like you're talking about insider trading it's not necessarily insider trading but they have the money sounds like there they the money they have the money to be able to get inside it's not illegal they're just getting inside when the rest of us aren't able to get inside and that's the advantage and that's what they're trying to work against us if
they can so Grant who do you think they invite to the Masters every year who do you think sits in the sky boox at the Super Bowl who do you think gets those first Baseline seats at the World Series the guys that have spent the most money with these firms that's the same thing with trading those people get the first look they get the best information because they spent a lot of money with those Brokers and you get it second third and fourth hand and probably three or four weeks late late the reason I love
real estate as you guys know is the the cash flow oh yeah how do I get that out of stocks rant there's an amazing number hundreds of ways that you can actually get that cash flow from all these various stocks am I wrong when I think that investing in the stock market is gambling investing in the stock market for most people is gambling because they're not educated and they don't have the right information or the big guys gambling the big guys are not gambling in the stock market the big guys are making Bank every single
day that's why you want to do what the big boys do they have the opportunity to open those doors that we we don't and so because of that they have changed it from gambling no they're not gambling but often times other people are you know I love real estate cuz I get the cash flow the tax writeoffs the depreciation the the the long-term appreciation from the asset I have a real physical asset I can see how is that different than investing in stocks and can I get those things yes absolutely you can do exactly that
you can do all the things that you do in real estate but we're going to actually motor that thing up even a little bit better because we're going to actually create things that actually give you much stronger positions in every single one of those categories and you've got the liquidity and you've got the leverage all of that is in your favor Grant uh when you look at uh somebody who gets caught on the wrong side of the market if it's in real estate chances are that bank's going to take the real estate and sell it
out from under you you don't have the liquidity in real estate because you got to find the buyer you don't have to find the buyer in the stock market liquidity is there every second that the Market's open you can get in or get out can I limit my losses yes you can also protect that portfolio the same way you protect a building with insurance and we show people how to do that what's the best trade you ever made 22 million on one trade tell me about it sounds like a good trade well so I bought
this stock at 10 cents it went to $28 does that happen every day it does for somebody did your brother know you were making the St no the guy never told me a damn thing what the [ __ ] is wrong with you I tell you what I feel like he was in the same thing why didn't you call me now now let me ask you what can my audience hope to get from from from this partnership a lot of great information and confidence so that when they invest they're going to feel confident Grant we've
been trading for over 40 years we used to trade for the partners at Goldman Sachs wow so not the customers the partners at Goldman Sachs do you think they thought we were pretty good the answer is that they knew that information is King how long would it take me to learn this information that you guys have Grant we believe nobody can teach people faster how to understand the market how to profit from the market nobody because they don't have our experience somebody read it in a book and they're going to try to teach you online
that's not the same thing at all we've got the experience we've got a great team we know we can deliver and we've done it for 40 years and the difference is you're practitioners you're making trades today yes right every day did you make one this morning I haven't made one yet this morning cuz I'm sitting here yeah [ __ ] this place if you wanted to learn how to skateboard and somebody said I've got 40 years of experience I can show you how to skateboard you're still going to need a little time on to feel
confident right experience that's exactly right but we can I can make a trade you can give me the data I can make a trade with you I still won't have the confidence until I've done that a number of times but I can make a trade yeah and you start small they don't need to make a million dollars the first day they need to start making money feeling confident well I'm excited about this guys because my audience wants this my audience deserves it I want to democratize Wall Street like banking like real estate buying businesses the
same thing that we've done to democratize and make available great information and intelligence and confidence I am just so excited about this partnership we are too thank you man you man [Music] Bo [Music]
