Joe Rogan Experience #2285 - Andrew Schulz

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day Oprah doing an episode on psyched dos God bless how about that God bless that mean she's definitely done it yeah you don't do a [ __ ] are we rolling yet are we rolling yeah yeah yeah you don't do an episode on psychedelics unless you [ __ ] visited the May unless you got in there you think it's Iwaska or mushrooms most of those fancy people like to do the iasa yeah you know because then you

you can claim spirituality above all other people oh you think there's like a pretentiousness oh 100% there's a uh I've done it I've done it I I've experienced the mother God yeah the God yeah I've experienced Gaia yeah it's like I think I think people do really do experience that but also there's a certain typee of Personality that wants To let you know that they're enlightened yeah they're they're further down the road than you Andrew yeah and like one way to get like instant street cred in the psychedelics world you say you do iwaska yeah

you know if you do mushrooms you might just be some [ __ ] at a party you know you and your friends are just [ __ ] giggling non-stop on the couch it could be that there's no points in mushrooms right you don't get points for that you Can say you say you took a heroic dose you'll get points amongst the Learned yeah like go yeah but the casuals don't give a [ __ ] casual you do iasa we're going to pay attention a little bit Yeah The Casual going to go why did you eat

eight grams yeah that seems crazy but the other people are going to go whoa what was that like yeah out here Oprah's out here pushing it I wonder if it's like a yeah I mean this on my friend Mark Bell's page Mark smelly Bell um and he he said what [ __ ] year are we live in like what is happening here what's going on yeah I wonder if the iwasa thing is a for some like a a quick fix you know they're looking for like immediate life change oh yeah for sure and also sometimes

your life has been such a colossal series of failures that you want like some symbolic reset and probably there's a lot of value in like a real like a like set and setting like A ritual yeah like emerge I'm a new person at least maybe that [ __ ] will give you some momentum for to kind of get on the right track I was talking to Neil about this Neil Brennan you know he he he did it he's done a lot of he done yeah cuz he was trying you know he was really battling he

need off that vegan diet yeah maybe that's it what if it's just chicken is all he needs like RI down in Costa Rica licking toads and he really for real dude I if I had that Dude over my house and cooked him some elk steak like I'll change his [ __ ] life just you make an agreement just eat this with me he takes one bite and he's like I am worthy but I think he was talking about in like um and he was you know you know one of his like superpowers is his like

cynicism right and it's really debilitating and I tell him to this all the time but like it's also amazing because he's like hyper aware of what The most negative thing could be right so for joke writing it's amazing it's it's like he's constantly wondering like what would his biggest hater think think it was it was one of the reasons why chapelo was so successful because it's like to create things you need to be super confident you need to not worry about who's going to criticize you yeah so if you can Outsource your criticism so if

Dave can like think about these things and be like okay this is awesome And then Neil can be like yeah yeah but this would be said if we do this and then together you have this like perfect combination of like uber confidence and then this insecurity and then you make these things that are just masterpiece hyper analytical insecurity yes you know like intelligent hyper when you're smart and insecure it's even worse dumb and insecure you can manage but then he said he did the iasa and he was like um he had gave me this like

a I don't know Feeling of connectedness or whatever people experience through it and he's like it was really liberating I think I did my best work afterwards CU I wasn't constantly beating myself up like I was able to create so I think there is value in it but I do think sometimes people are looking for like the the quick okay my life has changed now and now I I connect with the world and I'm we're perfect you can always tell the guys who beat themselves up because they beat Other people up too what is it

a hurt people hurt people yeah the guys the guys who beat themselves up they're always like super critical of other look at him look at his [ __ ] [ __ ] did you ever go through a stage like that not really no no I I figured it out when I was 21 real lucky I talked about this the other day there was one time it was an open mic night and uh the guy went on after me I was hoping that he would bomb and I Remember thinking that like what a [ __ ]

ass way to think that is yeah like there such a [ __ ] way to think and I completely shifted my perspective because like you don't think like that with martial arts like you can't think like that you know you can't think like that you can't think like that ever that's like a weak ass thought yes and then I realized like oh this is like your brain trying to occupy itself with you know this time that's going to Be between you and your goal of doing something in comedy and it's so far away you suck

you're 21 years old and you suck so everybody else got to suck so you want people to fail and you want to do better it's like just a total scrambly I don't know what I'm doing with my life thought yeah and I realized I was like oh that's a [ __ ] ass thought but that is very normal for human beings oh yeah I there a lot of [ __ ] out there yeah like we're kind of [ __ ] made In general like it takes more effort to not be a [ __ ] actually

especially if you have a job so if you have a regular job job like an office job you will pretend to be a whole different person for eight hours a [ __ ] day every day of your life that you're there yeah that is a lot of time bullshitting yeah and when you get out of all that bullshitting there's not much you left whatever could have been you never grew because whatever could have been you was Stifled by fluorescent lights in a [ __ ] monitor you're watching Severance right oh yeah there I mean clearly

it's a metaphor for there's a lot of things that go on to it a lot going on and also shout out Ben Stiller I didn't even know Ben had this like level to him I've always respected Ben I thought he was hilarious making great comedy movies but I didn't know he was like an Avant guard Storyteller like right right I mean it's also the way It's shot is brilliant the first episode every shot I don't know who the DP is like we should find out who that guy is but every shot has like perfect symmetry

did you notice that I didn't notice cut the screen in a half every single shot it is it is Masterpiece and uh but I I think about that like this idea of like severing yourself a lot of people are doing that at work anyway 100% And this what you're describing they're this other person at work for eight hours a Day yeah they aren't their self there's a different identity they make up these little terms like oh it's my work wife it's like yeah well that's why it's so easy to push like crazy woke nonsense into

an office space cuz people are already bullshitting oh so if we're already pretending here what else are we going to pretend what do what else I have to do to keep this job what do I have to do to get a promotion what do I have to do do I have to pretend that Trans kids what is it drab Queen shows okay I'm in I'm in healthcare yeah on my dick whatever you want to call it and it's gender affirming is that what we're calling it okay yeah and it's interesting like to see how little

push back there there is about like from the workers now that all these like programs are being wiped away like well the people that are losing their job are complaining hard and then the Senators are complaining hard but everybody else Is happy yeah the people who have been faking it at work that are still working there are not like damn it you know what I mean they're just going all right I get to be like a little closer version to myself well they're probably goingon to get fired at Disney you're saying at Disney what do

you mean I'm saying all these programs like have come out maybe not Disney but it was like Zuckerberg comes out and goes yeah meta we're not going to do the Dei [ __ ] I think Amazon Even came out and said I thought you meaning government jobs were cut by USA I thought I'm talking about corporate jobs people who have the corporate jobs this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter my team deserves a lot of credit they help make this show what it is and keep things running smoothly I don't know if it

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could be Dei it could just be anybody working there in general there's like there's a bunch of people that got jobs and their whole job to make sure that the company was diverse right and it's like do you remember the Rainbow Coalition you remember Jesse Jackson back in the day Jesse Jackson used to I I know Jesse but I he had this thing where he would go to businesses like if they had some sort of A dispute like say if there's some sort of an issue like maybe uh some black executive got fired and maybe

shouldn't have or someone put something on the wall in the bathroom something Jesse jaxson will come in and for a nominal fee for a nominal fee he will come in and straighten your business out and so what does straighten your business out mean well make sure that you guys are on the right track give a little speech collect a little check and then what Basically say you're not racist absolutely you're not you can't be racist you're hiring Jesse Jackson you we're on the right track so he comes along gives you the rubber stamp Legend and

then and he's like balling like balling out of control just giving the rubber stamps to these companies and then on top of that what they do is then they would have jobs for people to oversee this activity in a large corporation so it's basically like no Show jobs the mob used to give out at the javet center right I had a buddy of mine who had one of those do people know what the Javit Center is here it's it's a big Convention Center in New York this is where like ComicCon would be and all these

different things big stuff and it was mobbed up right mobbed up so they would have all these fake jobs that you could give to the guys around the block everybody's getting paid and it's probably supported by the city in some Way right yeah I don't want to say his name because he's uh still around but uh he he was an actor and uh I was uh working with him and uh he was explaining he's got a no show job he I knew he was know who you're talking probably not but I'll tell you afterwards [

__ ] great guy but afterwards everybody was like that guy's like so mobbed up got a [ __ ] noow job you know what's funny about you get like 200 Grand a year you don't even have to Work yeah yeah I mean I mean there's a lot of like construction jobs and stuff like this is well this is what us finding USA found this place in San Antonio that ukra billions of dollars on it's [ __ ] Noah was there completely empty to me it's not like shocking but bro it's the numbers are shocking no

the numbers can get shocking but it's funny that Jesse Jackson thing is an actual job because I remember like I had a joke that it could never work out but the Idea was was based on um it was it was black lives matter when when Ukraine started happen right so everybody had the black lives matter posters in their windows in New York and when black lives matter kind of came down well it's once those ladies got caught buying houses of course that that put a dent in there it wasn't great so so now there's all

these white people in New York that have black lives matter in their window but they're like I got to get this out of my window So I had this idea for a joke where it's like if I was a black dude I would set up a business where we will take down your black lives matter poster for you and then replace with like a a Ukraine flag you know what I mean so like you're still a good person Jesse was doing it in the [ __ ] 7 I had no clue the Rainbow Coalition already

worked was that that is what it's called right was yeah it was the Rainbow Coalition but he had a bunch of other things he would Call it under but the whole idea was just to make sure that people weren't doing the wrong thing yeah do the right thing yeah you got to do the right thing you got to do the right thing you always got to do the right thing yeah but the problem with that is it gets hijacked obviously there should be no racism there should be zero racism there should be zero discrimination everything

should be Merit based but problem with that is and this is a real problem the country Is not Merit based in terms of like where you're born like you didn't earn your birth spot you didn't you didn't earn your family it's a roll of the dice and you get real lucky or really [ __ ] unlucky yeah and as a community as a country we pay zero attention to the completely downtrodden I think this is the the biggest mistake that the Democrat Party has made is not making it a class issue like the Most successful

people in the Party Like Bernie and you like her politics or not but like AOC they make it a class issue every single time I think I think AOC pulled the same as Trump in her District why is that because people think that she wants a help and Bernie has just been taking shots the entire time he's like look at all these billionaires they got a lot of money you don't have enough money campaign Finance is [ __ ] up we need to stop that there's too much Influence with people with money and it resonates

with people oh yeah man we feel like you want to help I mean you I think like you were like a big Bernie dude dude that was the first time I really got cancelled was over Bernie because they didn't want Bernie to win and so they started calling me racist and homophobic and I was like where is this coming from when when Bernie started popping what did they say right they had to I don't know who they is you Could call whoever the [ __ ] they want but like there was this idea that they

had to like thwart his success and these articles started coming out where it was like the Bernie Bros yeah Bernie's got a problem his his his fans or supporters are sexists they're racist and they're these Bros that are that are [ __ ] up and they're radioactive and they're bad people and he's got a real problem so they're trying to make him radioactive and I remember seeing the reaction to Trump coming on the pods and it was the exact same Playbook it was like the man is fear pods they're sexist they're racist look how [

__ ] it's like you're doing the same thing you're making it about identity politics I think Americans are kind of simple in that like we want abundance but we want access so if eggs are expensive I can't care about your bathrooms right like and you need to tap into that feeling right there so if I'm the Democrats I'm just This is a class issue but I feel unfortunately a lot of them are in the pockets of these wealthy people yeah it's this all it's all a hustle if we had the entire time if we had

brilliant people working for the betterment of the United States it'd be a far better place to live in we've had a bunch of people that are capitalizing off of the fact they get in this position of extreme influence wealth and they make insane amounts of money for people with $170,000 a year salary and they keep it rolling so how do you how do you do that like how do you find okay how do you how do you find somebody who wants power but is also benevolent you got to get rare human beings that's the thing

most people who want Power don't exactly want to give back it's a bottomless pit bro have you ever seen people get like a little bit of power and lose their [ __ ] marbles like who well I can't say I can't tell a story CU be like real Obvious who I'm talking about but it's not one of our friends I just don't want to say it publicly it's not you don't even know him okay but I've seen people with just like you get a job where you you're the boss now and you just become a

[ __ ] and a half like what happened do you think it it exposes who they always were or do you think it actually changes their their character it's probably both it's probably both they probably had weak character to begin with but they Could get away with it if they were not in situations that you know caused a lot of anxiety or stress but then as soon as they do get in a situation causing like if you're the boss of some workplace somewhere yeah I've just seen people just completely lose their [ __ ] when

people rely on them and depend on them they just become tyrants do you think that they resent the dependence I don't know what it is man I don't know what it is you have a lot of People that depend is yeah I would say depends as tricky be is they have the autonomy to not do that but there are a lot of people that definitely rely on you and yeah do you feel pressure from that yeah no really no I feel like you took care like before you open the The Comedy Club you were taking

care of these people that you asked to come out here and work for you so you must have felt This concern for them didn't you hire them and weren't you paying them even before the club was open yeah well they were all unemployed out of LA so I said listen we're going to open up a club we're going to find the spot but I'll you could start immediately so like you just get paid enjoy Austin kick back relax we'll call you in about a year and a half around it was around two years but you

felt the responsibility yes but it didn't B burden me got it it wasn't Like oh this is a heavy responsibility it's like this is smart we could do this this is the right thing to do this way we already have the best people that you know got fired from The Comedy Store because The Comedy Store couldn't open cuz LA's [ __ ] and so we got them all to come out here and it's like look the right thing to do is to like pay them now and we'll figure that out we just had to figure

out where the spot was and then obviously once we got the spots Like this is going to be a long we're going to have to put some construction in this [ __ ] and do a lot of [ __ ] and it's going to take some months so you you knew it's going to take time you're like okay I'm going to take care of them in the interim but again it's so you're not burdened by people feeling like they rely on you or anything no it doesn't bother me no if it burdened me like if

it was something where I was worried I was going to run out of money like if I Was like stretched real thin yeah I'd be like [ __ ] there's so many people working for me this is a problem like I got to I got to like figure something out yeah but I'm not so it's okay it's just it's like decide what you think about in this life you know what do you mean by that decide what you think about in this life if you are you going to do something that's going to change the

way you feel about having a bunch of employees or have or you not or you just going to Freak out about it like decide what you think about things what what are those two philosophies like a determinism and uh Free Will yes are you a huge Free Will Guy Do You Believe In determinism at all will is real okay I know it's real because it exists in me the idea though is that it's fleeting and it's dependent upon a multitude of factors your will is really dependent upon your hormone levels your genetics how much sleep

you've had uh what what positive Or negative experiences have shaped you in your life there's a lot going on that that like forces you into this position where you have to decide whether or not will is real yeah but Will's real I believe it's real it's 100% real yeah like I know I it's not determinism that makes David Goggins run harder than anybody else it's will yeah it's 100% will his knees are destroyed it's only will that just gets you up off the couch if your knes are destroyed and run a Tidy 30 miles that

day yeah that's not that's not determinism that's [ __ ] it was determinism there would be tons of those guys out there there's only a small Cameron Hayne small little [ __ ] handful of these like psychotic people who have incredible will world champion Fighters you know Gordon Ryan and Jiu-Jitsu like there's a there's like Gordon Ryan works out every [ __ ] day of the week 365 days a year a huge sacrifice if you want to be really great At something you kind of have to be out of your [ __ ] mind but

you also have to have an iron will yeah you don't want to work out every day there's going to be days you just want to eat cake and sleep yeah but if you want to get past the guy who eats cake and sleeps you don't eat cake and you don't sleep yeah that's will dude that's will there's a I don't your determinism can suck my dick because it's never there's no just like accid Dental amazing people it's like You know it's like a lot of similar stories single bomb you know started doing this and started

doing invented something when he was 18 do they all come from trauma you think I think a lot of people that are hyper ambitious come from a shitty environment and what is that connection I think it's probably wanting something better than you're experiencing and knowing that it's possible that it's out there and knowing The pain of living in the ghetto or the pain of being on food stamps the pain of poverty and then the fact that like when you're poor and you're young you wonder whether or not you're going to have food you know that's

a scary thought for a child yeah that's motivating yeah it it puts a kind of fire in you like you don't get a Mike Tyson if he grows up in Brentwood yeah you know you get them when they grow up in Bedford Stenson you know you don't get them when they have An awesome dad and an awesome Mom who was there for their baseball games tells them what a great job they did and consoles them when they get hurt no no no you have like a life of pain and then you got some pain to

dish out after that I also but I feel like it's not completely dependent on that you know like I wouldn't say that I had this like life of pain like I've you know dealt with my [ __ ] you know but I feel incredibly competitive and ambitious you Well you're an artist it's a different thing right the reason why it's a different thing is you're an artist in a very specific genre which is talking [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] talking artist right like [ __ ] talking it to that it is what

it is it is what it is it's beautiful it's a profal my favorite art form yeah and [ __ ] talking artists they want to be around a bunch of people and have a good time yeah right so you don't need need to come from trauma to be ambitious and Be a a a shit-talking artist yeah all you have to do is like be someone who admires success and who wants to progress and keep getting better at this thing that they love that has given them so much yeah but you also you also have to

sacrifice and you have to commit to things right you know I do feel like it takes like I I mean I didn't I mean in the beginning like I don't think I celebrated a birthday for like a decade like I don't think I ever considered Like taking a vacation or anything like I was just so hungry to get after it to get good to be like undeniable that was like this goal like how can I be undenied I would see these guys go up like [ __ ] Greer Barnes or uh Mike D Stefano and

I'd just be like they are just undeniable and and yeah I don't know I just I didn't even [ __ ] drink I think for like a decade I was like I got to get better at this I got to just kind of Work and maybe that comes from like watching my parents work hard or something I'm sure that helps yeah they were really hard workers yeah and that's like the expectation of work well also you have a lot of gratitude and I think if you have gratitude you realize how fortunate you are to have

the ability to work hard yeah cuz that's a real thing oh dude especially working hard at something that you're actually successful at once You're actually successful keep that foot on the gas [ __ ] it is keep that foot on the gas let's go that that's like the balance like you just put something out so I imagine you took a little time off afterwards yeah I did I got like 25 minutes right now okay so you're building back and like I find in order for the next thing I do to be different I have to

take time away uhhuh cuz I have to like reflect on the changes in my life and if I keep Going like earlier in my career I would just go go go go and I found I was writing different versions of the same jokes right like they were different jokes but it was same topic same kind of reaction and I think it was I just wasn't you're trying to fill time I was I'm on the road I'm like I got to go back to Albany next year do another hour I'm making, 1500 a weekend I got

and then you get connected to that material because you've been doing it for a while And then it doesn't really resonate with you yeah and then yeah so it's like I think Lou took a whole year off I think I I really I really respect that yeah I think I think it's wise yeah I think taking time and thinking about it is really wise and thinking about like what are the things that are that are on your mind like what is what is uh how do you really feel about this world that we're live in

this this world that seems more and more like it's not real more and More like it's a [ __ ] simulation yeah I'm I'm kind of convinced now what it is a simulation yeah there something going on there's something more to reality than what meets the eye there's more to it than what you could put on a scale or what you could put a rulle or to there's more to this thing this thing is made out of like some very bizarre energy that's attached to Consciousness that's what I think what do you mean by this

I think that like I think it's Really possible first of all it's inevitable that one day they will achieve a simulation that is indiscernible from real no doubt about it they've gotten real close you know where you could put on haptic feedback suits and you see things and you feel like you're in a room they're you know it's crude but it's like you know Nintendo from 20 years ago versus you know some Modern Warfare game Now right they're going to get to a point where it's IND discernible yeah so if it's if it does happen

how do you know how do you know when that takes place now here's the question is that the ultimate progression of technology is the ultimate progression of Technology transcending physical reality and becoming completely Digital Life so if that is possible how do we know if it hasn't already happened how Can we know if it hasn't already happened well one thing I would say that if this world was scripted it would be filled with a lot of [ __ ] that's exactly like what happened Trump would get shot in the ear and say fight fight fight

you would have Elon Musk at the inauguration looking like he's on another planet now now Joe I just want to make the point here you're making the argument for determinism no I'm not I'm making I'm making the argument that there's a Conscious interface there's Consciousness and it's interfacing with something that's not entirely real and that is the life that we're living in and we think it's way realer than it actually is yeah so is somebody in control of it or allowing us to have uh some semblance of control I feel like it might be controlled

by the actual things that are inside of it so I think our destiny is truly in our hands I really believe that I like that and that is the Case how is that not real well it is real in a sense but I think that the the actual way that things happen and work is dependent entirely on the level of consciousness the people have that are experiencing it it sounds like very hippie dippy and wooy and it all comes comes from a lot of different things but one of it comes from Tom Campbell who who

wrote this like very [ __ ] bizarre book that I've listened to on audiobook twice now okay where he's talking about Essentially what we think of as reality is just a simulation okay the whole entire thing is our Consciousness interpreting everything as we experience it throughout the day but when we are not here here yeah that is not the same thing what do you mean when we're not here when we die you're saying like when we're not if you're not on Mars is Mars real or is Mars something that we we agree is real we

agree it's in a certain space and it' only be there when we get There like if if the universe is a true simulation imagine what a mind [ __ ] you have a simulation where it's perfect in that it has all of these galaxies and supernovas the moon Al toes and without Moon being our enti atmosphere would fall apart we would never a to survive so it's like this perfect little thing that's set right there and we spin around and worry which bathroom should we let the guy in a dress go to And okay this

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a show being put on for our Consciousness right and somebody's put on the show and then we get the ability to go to the moon and then they got to scramble and make a moon no there's a Moon I mean it doesn't matter wherever you wherever you go that is kind of funny like if like our technology gets so good and they're just going [ __ ] we Got to make this thing real like they're on the way I'm well aware if you're you're like criticizing me this is a Dopey way to describe it but

I I you know if the tree falls in the forest and there's no one there it doesn't make a sound yes I don't even know if the tree falls if there's no there I'm not convinced I'm not convinced I'm not convinced so the tree okay okay so I if you take a trip to the Pacific Northwest you will find trees Yes yes I just don't know if they're there all the time so they're only there in reference to us looking at them oh I get what you're saying I think wait wait wait so you're playing

a video game uhhuh and as you move through throughout the map of the video game it itself but you're saying without us accessing it it isn't presenting itself it might be the whole dat that might be the whole universe the whole universe might be us interacting with something but they Exist but it doesn't exist without us yeah and and this is one of those things like what does it matter either way but exists with us in this moment like if you jump off a cliff you will die like gravity's real you get pulverized no no

no doubt but it's because you jumped it's also like your Consciousness is is the reason why all this is here you're interacting with that's the manifestation of everything Though so I I get what you're saying like the structure existentially does it exist if we're not touching it feeling it it's it's um what they say about like the Native Americans when they first saw the ships they didn't know what they were that's [ __ ] that's not real exactly but like but but I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't um I wouldn't say that it's not real

in that they didn't understand what it was in the distance they think they were Like mountains moving closer they probably just saw these giant pieces of wood and was trying to figure out they had structur know it's wood but didn't they have structures I don't know if they're fishing at that time I'm not sure but if you see them in the distance you see them moving forward I get the idea like your brain can't map what that is yet you'd be freaked out so it's mapping to whatever you know so it's like oh [ __

] is it low tide and there's Some like sand bars out there that are slowly approaching what the [ __ ] is that that's kind of what you're saying we can't like I can't understand like what a glacier is without knowing what it is when I see a glacier for the first time I can recognize glaciers everywhere but if I take someone who's never seen a glacier to it I think this guy's going further than that I think he's saying the glaciers aren't real unless you're there but if someone is there at every Point in

time throughout the world then everything is yes and we have people where there's some people in Antarctica all right so Antarctica's always there there's some people in Alaska okay so that's always there if we have enough people throughout the world the world is this congealed substance that we can look at feel touch and experience yeah and it might be like the map of the game is like those NASA satellite photos of Earth that's that's the map of the game like if you wanted to like go through a game a video game and uh before you

go through the game it shows you like these are the Arenas in which you're playing and you can choose one of them if yeah yeah you you can choose one or you know which level you're going to like that's those NASA 3D photos of the earth that's Earth is Earth is like the place where we play this Consciousness game when you're sitting at home and you're like Thinking about these things yeah do you like talk to your kids about it no that's too weird to talk to kids about what about your wife were you like

just going hey she would go what yeah you know my wife she' be like what the [ __ ] are you talking about okay so you're so you get out of the sauna you have a nice sweat you're walking around your house you're looking at the stars you see [ __ ] Saturn or whatever if she wants to talk about something like That yeah she'll bring it up like if she wants to talk about something heavy it's not like I wouldn't talk about something heavy with her yeah but generally like I come home from work

she's been with the kids she's doing this and that we dinner we have fun how a school have a good time maybe we watch little Severance together but if she's like did you ever think that maybe this is all isn't real I'd be like I'm so glad you brought this out Okay so do you do you struggle battling with the cuz some people when they think about this stuff they feel their own insignificance and it's very depressing for them oh it doesn't matter like this so you're unaffected entirely that like your existence in this lifetime

over the grand scheme of things could not be important it can't be important but it is but it is to you and it is to the people around you so makes up our Reality then it's important sure but why think about about that why think about whether or not you're important I just don't waste any time thinking about whether or not I'm important maybe important is maybe important is like a pretentious word not I'm not important I mean like don't think about the end of the game play the game don't go oh my God it's

going to end my quarter is going to run out just play the game but some people won't play the game if they Know it's there's no game at all or they know it is completely a game I think that there's this like uh urgency that is applied like okay I have to I have to create the art that I want to create in this time my life like time is something I've been thinking about like non-stop since I had a kid kid it's like time how do I spend time it it maybe is cliche but

it it is the the thing that I like value the most and everything gets broken up into these little quadrants of Time okay I'm out here I'm doing some pods okay I'm away from my daughter I'm away from my wife how do I get back that time how can I like create these events like I don't even buy expensive [ __ ] I like to take a vacation with my friends I want us all to stay in the Villa together cuz when we're in different hotel rooms we miss out on those little moments in between

like time time time and to me it's like I'm putting an importance on this I guess the game you Say you're playing I want to experience the most of this game as I possibly can while I'm here and I have all these examples of people like finishing the game you know my dad's you know he's a he's got Dimension and all this stuff it's like you're seeing your ability to I guess manifest that reality you're at the kind of end of your game you know KN but like yeah the idea of like me being important

I don't care about like that in terms of how people see it but in This time I have here I want to believe it's really important and I want to soak as much of it up as I can you know and I think sometimes when you're like ah it's pointless it's it's nothing like I thought like Jim Carrey was going through that moment like there are these times where I'd see Jim talking about like the insignificance of the world and I feel like that can kind of like lead people to sadness and depression I feel

like sometimes you need the battery in Your back of of of importance not you being important to other people but the time you spend here being valuable yeah well that's part of gratitude too that's one of your best traits um and having gratitude is you would recognize that you this time is precious you know and use it to the best of your ability and and really like you enjoy it like soak it up did you see everything everywhere all at once yeah I did like I thought that was a beautiful Uh beautiful way of of

of showcasing how people look at like the nothingness of Life yeah this girl sees it as potentially nothing and falls into her own kind of I guess you would call it this just depression why is it worth it what the [ __ ] is going on right and she kind of sees her father as this like weak guy that's getting like walked over and then comes to realize that like he chooses to deal with the nothingness with kindness and love with everybody And in reality he's like a hero like his perspective on the world is

the best when confronted with the nothingness of life life he chooses to like be compassionate and loving and it's actually like the most heroic stand you can take I think it's very easy just submit to nothingness you're uh determin is maybe the wrong word but like you like hard [ __ ] the day the day you're no longer here is when you can no longer do hard [ __ ] I feel like your day is full Of it and it's just constant like wake up I'm getting in the [ __ ] ice B like everything

I see you do is hard you know what I mean like you could shoot a [ __ ] thing with a gun if you want you could shoot animal with a gun I'm surprised you don't run on them with a [ __ ] knife like I like literally like I feel like one day I'm going to see you go I'm going knife hunting I'm going bare knife hunting just because it's a a difficult thing to do and I don't know Maybe that's how you process the process existence well I think if you are a person

who enjoys challenges and and finds a reward in like working hard and and overcoming that resistance inside of you as uh pressfield talks about that that thing that wants you to be lazy if you if you have value in that you find Value in that and it it helps you live like a more enriched more fulfilling life you tend to just keep doing that because this is like if I I Know for a fact me as much as I work out and take care of myself if I take like three days off you'll start to

get used to it I start getting depressed I start getting anxious I start feeling weird like I don't feel level like a couple of days off you're just like H I just feel gross I just like why is the world so weird and then I'll have one good hard workout and then I'm like oh everything's fine and I'm like how many people need that and don't get it so What is that it's just a human body has certain requirements CU it's designed to run from Tigers okay the the human body is designed to constantly you

feed it you have to feed it you have to deal with these difficult things cuz for millions of years that's how our brains and bodies have been processed to work efficiently and if you don't put in those situations what is the is the messaging like you're wasting this time here like What is that internal messaging you can have both right you can have people that have Brilliant Minds and [ __ ] bodies they exist there's people that don't take care of their body and they're yeah Stephen Hawking uh but he you know he had a

disease but but he wasn't like an Adonis before right that's true too yeah people act like it's a big difference yeah but the the best way for your brain to work well is if your body is healthy and has energy it doesn't mean you have To be a weightlifter it doesn't mean you have to be you don't have to do any specific thing if you like running run if you like tennis play tennis if you like yoga do yoga but you should 100% do something find a thing you enjoy doing that's why golf or uh

rather tennis is such a great thing because it's cardio and it's fun right you're doing a fun thing you're playing with your friends talk yeah Community huge yeah but you're you're active if you don't do that I Don't think your body is in sync and I think there's a whole lot of people running out there taking care of things with pills that you could fix way better and and feel and look better more importantly you it would help in every aspect of your life it would help you think clearer you'd have less stress you'd be

more reasonable like go [ __ ] do something with your goddamn body and if you if you don't do that I really believe if you don't do that you have Less potential you could have a genius mind that allows you to overcome that potential with just just pure intelligence just a pure Insight on the world that's extraordinary you could overcome [ __ ] hormone levels and [ __ ] you know body fat levels you could but you shouldn't yeah you're so [ __ ] smart you got a terrible body like what's wrong with you if

have one of these goddamn things you can make that thing awesome you do anything you Have one of these you get one [ __ ] body and yours is a dumpster yeah yours is a dumpster for potato chips that's crazy what do you like when you're talking to these high functioning dudes you're talking to like an Elon is there do they value exercise and stuff like that at all like can he even put that in his day like um elon's a different animal there's no other human I've ever met like him um no he I

don't think he exercises much I think maybe a little Bit I know he was thinking about fighting Zuckerberg so he did some training who did he train with Lex and who else was it George S Pierre they put up a photo of it it was George right so he trains with one of the greatest UFC fighters of all time yeah Lex fredman our boy who is also a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt and I think he just did a little bit of that was like [ __ ] this shout out Lex man there it is and

John Doner the great John Don the greatest jiujitsu coach of all time so he was like learning some stuff I'll never forget Lex uh coming to my wedding Uninvited and blacking out I never forget that I'll never forget that thank you Lex we really appreciate that in all fairness it was my fault that he blacked out you forced him to drink I kind of got him a drink and uh didn't realize the Russian in him had a mind of tone that Russian mixed with that [ __ ] American bourbon that [ __ ] was off

to the RAC so funny Whitney was like yeah I'm going to take Lex I was like oh okay cool yeah I like that guy and then I remember seeing him on like a beach chair just passed the [ __ ] out oh dude we had an adventure yeah you guys went to Vegas later we go to Vegas that night cuz Whitney had uh wedding she had a wedding she did a wedding at someone's house it was a corporate G but it was a wedding at someone's house I think it was a wedding Or a birthday

whatever it was party private party at someone's house must have been a birthday so uh we fly from your wedding he congratulations we hang out and then hop on a jet you know it's only 30 minutes to Vegas we get to Vegas by the time we land Lex is lit I mean Lex is lit at the lit lit lit so Whitney uh performs at this lady's house um didn't you go I introduce her oh I you did like minutes I was drunk too I I went up and said happy birthday whatever To the lady I

forget what it was I think I'm pretty sure it was birthday um uh and then I bring up my good friend one of the most hilarious comics in the world what he come and then uh um she we we get on the plane or we we get in the car to go to the plane to head back and there's no plane they never booked a return flight so we try so we tredy to get a return flight cuz they had got our little shitty private jet to get there so then we try To get a

return flight we cannot I call my service they can't the quickest they can do is in the morning yeah like what do you guys want to do so I we decide that we're going to get a limo and so have a car service drive us back to LA it so was 4our drive or whatever the [ __ ] it is it's me my wife Whitney and Lex remember you just sending me videos of Lex passed out at different parts of the Cino that's at the Airport that's that's at the airport this is but he's like

that for the last 12 hours he was like that at the wedding oh he was obliterated I mean he went hard that boy goes hard yeah he goes hard it makes you want to not drink there's certain people I'm around I'm like I think I'm done I think I'm done I feel like less people are drinking well it's really that might be that might be your influence it's a good idea to not drink so much I wonder if the uh like The alcohol companies are concerned they're trying to find something there's always going to be

drunks I I I see it I see it uh like beard consumption way down the problem is it's poison yeah but everything's poison wonderful lovely poison my favorite poison is wine I love great glass of wine do we have a little like nice little red going on here uh do we have any red wine here I want to know what you're drink drinking there's something yeah there's at least some out There for sure I we get some uh do you want some I mean if you're going to have a glass I'll have a glass I'll

have a little sip with I've kind of cut way back on my alcohol consumption oh really yeah way way back I would go every time I'd go out to dinner I'd have a drink or two every time I'd go to the club I'd have a drink or two and then one day I sat down I was like that's like four days a week five days a week that's like a drink or two 5 days a week like how Would you feel if you didn't have a drink or two 5 days a week so I didn't

have any drinks for like two weeks and I feel a lot better really so am I breaking your like streak right now yeah you would be breaking my streak I don't want to [ __ ] your streak up well we don't have to drink it then but actually let's break it it'll be I don't mind I think the key is like all things it's all about moderation but the reality of alcohol is it's basically poison yeah But it's got great social utility oh yeah I feel like people undermine the value of alcohol and how it

ain't around for all these years cuz it sucks and like if you travel it you don't get to experience certain cultures in their truest form without them consuming alcohol right like if you've gone to like Ireland you go to Dublin like during the day there are very different people and they seem kind of like tight and DOW and then at night at the pub After like a few Guinness it seems almost cliche but everybody's singing and dancing and there's so much like love and connectivity and you see why all this great like literature music and

poetry just comes from this tiny little Island and you're like oh wow you really need that like it is a tough place to live and you got to stuff everything down and you need a release valve same thing with Russia like when I was in Russia seeing them on the drink they're Way on the drink on the drink they're warmer they're there there's warmth the culture this explain it though on the drink we have fancy glasses okay both Cabernet though what do you thinking or 2022 uh which one was the one that you just touched

97 grab that one where your hand is yeah that's that's what we're going to decide 97 is a long time ago how do you how do you like how do you find that balance where like you kind of need it that's old ass wine huh yeah I Don't know brought it sit how do you find um what balance just like there it allows people to access this part of themselves that they might feel is like a pushed down or the problem is if you use it too much right and and it's also the problem is

like I notice if I I drink three or four nights in a week I don't feels good yeah and when I don't drink at all for two weeks and I feel like really good all the time like what am I [ __ ] why am I drinking why Would I drink yeah like I don't need to drink to have a good time yeah but you know when you're at the bar or at the club rather and everyone's being social and Tony's like who wants a drink anybody want to drink and they're like hey cheers yeah

it's just about discipline it's just about like if you feel like you're going off the rails hit the brakes settle down yeah what are you doing yeah you gota but a lot of folks don't have any of that unfortunately and You know they they'll be sober for a long time and then one glass of chardonnay later they're doing cocaine and headed to Vegas alol there was Lex fredman flowing rails on a prate who does go and passes out that's how drunk you are oh this something so funny about people passed out that's the It's the

funniest [ __ ] ever they they become children they're babies they're like infants you know they're just completely On control of their body yeah you're not even there hello look at you out cold this just a weird aspect to people that we have to shut off yeah that's so weird I was just uh watching this video about this guy who uh he did a radio broadcast in Time Square where he stayed up for eight days okay and this guy started having crazy hallucinations he was having his REM sleep his REM Cycles in his brain were

going off while he was awake so he Living inside nightmares yeah I'll send it to Jamie it's it was crazy I think Duncan sent it to me it's it's really say that can induce Insanity faster than anything right oh for sure dude I mean that that without a doubt the sleep deprivation yeah sleep deprivation is really bad for you how many hours you get a night I try to get at least seven oh wow um I get more but what if you come home late from the club you're just what when I do if uh

if it's school days especially um I get up in the morning I say goodbye and then I'll maybe go back to sleep for an hour so like I'll get up with them you know see them off and then I'll go back to sleep for like one more hour cuz I can I can sleep on the ground dude I can go to sleep on rocks I could I just I know how to pass out so like I could go right back to sleep and I'm good but I like seven but I can function on six I

had six last night yeah I had To get up in the morning for a dentist appointment uh but generally speaking um I'm looking for eight yeah I like eight yeah Eight's where it's at I don't think I've had eight hours I don't think I've had eight hours since I had a kid oh yeah that I didn't either for a while it takes a long time and it's also like uh your day is way more occupied oh it's it's a completely different like you Really realize how much your your actual time working on something is precious

when you have children because like they just go to bed you're like okay I got an hour to get some [ __ ] done yep you you got one hour you don't have an hour to flip through your phone check out Tik Tok uhuh you got an hour to get something done and then you got to go to bed and then you got to get up in the morning you got to get up early you got to help with this help with that we're Doing this we're doing that we're packing our stuff in here and

okay let's go there and there's a thing after school remember it's at 4:30 don't be late okay 4:30 and then you got to zoom over from here and go to the it's like your day is so occupied but it makes you more disciplined it makes you more disciplined and it makes you feel more productive like it's weird like even going out and like say having some drinks or whatever and waking up and Feeling kind of shitty without like the kid I kind of feel guilty by halfway through the day I'm like what was I doing

why the [ __ ] did I go out party but when I'm like up at and I'm [ __ ] tired I'm hung over and I'm with my wife taking care of the baby by 12 I'm like I'm a good [ __ ] parent like I I feel like this I feel like a positive sensation in the place of this like guilt-ridden one that I would used to feel maybe and I think it's that Immediate productivity that purpose there's this human being that you love more than anything that is like deeply relying on you yeah

and um yeah I feel I don't know it's also the kind of love you have with them is just Indescribable how old were you when had your first 40 yes so I'm I'm 41 so I was yeah it's the same thing it's it's yeah it's every cliche it's amazing you spend all this time as a as a comedian like thinking of unique or Different angles M and then you're presented with your child and like every feeling you have is the most cliche feeling that everybody has ever described in having a child yeah and then you

don't mind when babies are crying on airplanes anymore dude it completely changes everything it it is it is adorable when they're crying on the airplane yeah you want to like you almost want to like help the mom isn't that crazy how when you're a young man You're like oh my God a baby's crying you like look for something to cover your ears with that's also a big city thing I feel like I feel like places that like country places where they're so used to where there's family Dynamics and like that's rewarded and I grew up

in the city where it just wasn't that rewarded and it's like a rare thing to even like be a kid in the city well especially um you be you're a kid in the city and Then you go from that to being a standup comedian so you're a nighttime nightclub guy like the whole baby crying like oh Jesus yeah it's like wo some bad decision making going on over there yeah yeah but it is I wish that I would like us to change that a bit I think that's the thing that's kind of missing in like

this masculinity movement is fatherhood like I I hear a lot of guys talking about is there a masculinity movement going on apparent on these pods that we Do is that what it is we're the manosphere dude this is where [ __ ] men hang out I don't think they consider us the manosphere honestly I think the manosphere is like those pickup artist type dudes but that's the thing none of those guys have kids or they talk about like what it is to be a man and it's like buddy like you're missing out on the most

important part of the entire process yeah like I want to hear the guys who have a bunch of kids telling me What it is to be a man right like to me that's way more valuable and I feel like they're missing out on like the defining moment in a man's life life even [ __ ] have Alpha [ __ ] there's like a leader of the [ __ ] oh that's fire you know so like they're they're a leader of a movement but what what kind of movement you leading bro yeah what kind of movement

you leading yeah you know it's it is yeah you go to an Island full of [ __ ] and you could become the There's going to be somebody there just find out who that head [ __ ] is and say yeah yeah up those [ __ ] are probably easier to lead oh yeah for sure they've been that [ __ ] has been leading them yeah yeah yeah yeah just it's like I saw one CNN after the election they were talking about us in specific and they were talking about how there is this network of

podcasts that are inter interconnected that has been Financed like this this huge Corporate Finance Network Black Rifle coffee it's like it's so stupid no it's it's actually just a bunch of friends [ __ ] idiots we just to do each other podcast but they're like trying to sort it out support each other they go on each other's shows and they're all in this together well we need that on the left like good luck you guys cancel each other if you're [ __ ] Ukraine flag is too small Yeah 6 by6 yeah you [ __ ]

talk [ __ ] about each other for not having trans kids you guys are out of your mind you're not going to you're not going to sync up together you're you're in suicide cult yeah I think that was the results of the election I don't think that they would like to believe this but it was a rejection of what was happening I think the the assumption is everybody just loves Trump and he's just this populous and every person that voted for Him is like I just love everything about this guy but I actually think that

a lot of people were just like I don't like what's happening now right and this current Administration is saying that they don't want to change much that's happening now right so I'm voting against that lack of change right and I think it's important for them to realize that I talk about this a lot especially with charlot on the Pod and it's just like you have to be reflective of like What the people are telling you like when that the Mion thing happened and the reaction by the people was to laugh at it yeah they were

kind of Pumped but you got to look at that and you got to pay very close attention to what people are feeling don't tell them what they should feel and you know better and oh we have to you know lead them to the water cuz they're too stupid to know how to find it no no no they are disillusioned by the medical system and If you don't meet them there you're never going to win ever yeah and I feel like that's at least from talking to Trump that was something that I got from him was

like it doesn't seem like it when you see him on the news and [ __ ] but he's like an acute listener like he listens to what people are saying and he listens more importantly what they're feeling and he can tap into those feelings and I think that that's what people have had a lot of success in Politics were able to do Barack did it Bill Clinton did it probably maybe the best Bill might have been the best his AB ability to communicate to people what they were feeling I know you feel pain I do

feel pain Bill I'm here for you you are I am I would love that you know it was I'm going to be your leader yeah it was uh yeah it's um you need to listen what I think what Trump's done that's really brilliant is uh bring in people like tulsey gabard Robert F Kennedy Jr Cash Patel like bring in those people and like you you you you kind of really do get a chance to change things like legitimately change things think about that decision right it's like those people are all echoing sentiments that the majority

of Americans feel they we do not trust the food here's the guy who says the food is bad right maybe we should put him in control of the food kind of like a simple thing yeah instead of going well this guy is the food Doctor and we're going to hire the food doctor because he knows what food is good for you and you guys should just shut up and listen and I feel like there's a lot of this like top down on the left and I'm not trying to just like bag on the left I

don't care really about that like I don't even care about the politics I care more about like what where the the cultural liquidity is it's like you can't talk down to people there's this like ivy league Pretentiousness in the Democratic party I feel where they're like we know better and just you must be stupid if you don't agree with us and it's like all right well I'm stupid I'm dumb I'm dumb then so why doesn't somebody meet me where I'm stupid and start at least making me feel like I'm not an [ __ ] for

the way that I you know for my I guess you could say political leanings now yeah I feel like they need to meet and it's a very simple Thing make it a class issue and I think they win and say what you want about America but like I think it's better if we have two president or two people running for president that we're stoked about and it's a really hard decision yeah that would be wonderful yeah that's not what we had um we had one group of people that legitimately wanted to change things and then

we're going to see what happens if they do what but you're seeing weird stuff today that you Never see before which is like a real adjustment to the age of the internet one of the things you're seeing is I don't know if you saw the 22 different Congress people who were all saying the exact same line with the word [ __ ] in it what was the line so it's like it's this speech they're reading it verbatim they're all reading it and doing it to a microphone as if it's a rant but they're all doing

from the same script and the [ __ ] ain't Right the [ __ ] ain't right is the beginning of how when in the history of the United States has a politician politician said [ __ ] and not just one but 22 of them in taper can you pull it up just we can see it because it's so nuts when you see them all together it's just like they have it on screens as tiles and they're all saying the same words they all have their own little flare they put on it yeah look at this

put put your headphones on this is [ __ ] bananas terrible it's hard to listen it's okay you won't be able you can't really tell it's like a crowd but when they had three of them when it was the first first three was like it was Chuck Schumer and someone else yeah they they're saying the exact oh Elizabeth Warren and someone else they're all saying they're saying the exact same words in the exact same Subjects in the exact same order you guys are all reading off a script and you're trying by putting the word [

__ ] in there to be authentic well [ __ ] ain't right to be specifically authentic they're like we need to speak to workingclass people to the kids and it it is kind of like bigoted in a weird way where like they it feels like they're almost in a think tank like Hey listen these poor dummies they like it when you curse so if you use a few curse Words in your speech they're going to really relate to you and it's like no no no we actually need somebody disruptive we need somebody on the left

that is that might speak like that but authentically speaks like that and is willing to disrupt even what's happening the left because if you look at like what happened with the Trump and the movement like he disrupted the right the right looks very different now than it did 5 10 years ago right definitely so I Want like like a Maga Democrat yeah like for real like and and what is that like what do we at the at our Baseline want right we like abundance tell me how great America is going to be in your version

of it you want to Bill Clinton talk that [ __ ] like come out talking [ __ ] Bernie was talking [ __ ] and I want you to come out and if Trump can say we're going to take Greenland there can be some Den that goes $1 eggs and straight up says we're going to Subsidize it do that subid subsidize corn you subsidize Dairy you subsidize everything like why can we not subsidize it but say something that's actually going to impact people now Trump's not going to take Greenland so maybe you don't get the

$1 doll eggs but you get this messaging across that you're actually trying to help people mhm and you're going to have to deal with those lobbies that are bankrolling you and that might piss them the [ __ ] off but That's the disruption we need for you for us to trust you you know what they really should do what's that they really should have a strategic plan if we're spending three what is it $350 billion went to Ukraine what was the number what what are they saying it was I don't know what the number is

some insane let's say just let's just be conservative and say 200 billion imagine if we spent 200 Bon in the United States in all of the crime ridden cities of the country just Completely overhauling them all right so here's my concern about that is how much do they spend in California on homelessness 24 billion and then like nothing changed right no they got worse they did a good job awesome they did a good job maybe we we could spend 36 billion you know like so there's also this idea like the current Administration in these places

even with an abundance money is not going to make change so you need somebody from inside From the left to go hey these people are corrupt on my team we're going to root out that corruption but we are going to take care of homelessness we are going to make eggs cheaper we are going to build [ __ ] 10,000 affordable housing housing units so that the price of you know your rent can go way down there has to be something disruptive instead of hey let's just go back to normal let's not ruffle any feathers like

I see what you're saying I I reject the idea though That um progress uh can't be had just because uh people have been corrupt and they've abused money before I feel like you could Farm it off to private corporations the same way we did with halberton during the Iraq War what did they do with halberton got no bid contracts to rebuild Iraq and they did it they actually buil built all the power plants they didn't need there's like a lot of waste and weird [ __ ] that went on over there yeah you Could do

that with the inner cities but you could have say did a good job no oh well I'm just saying like they actually did get paid to rebuild cities so you can get a private sector that would would actually make money it would become an industry instead of it being bureaucracy so you see what I'm saying like instead of it being something where it's like California they're they're taking the homelessness where nothing gets done but money keeps pumping into It yeah no the only way you get paid is based on results so you have a contract

with incentives based on results yes that is the problem there is no you have to lower crime you have to lower crime you have to lower uh juvenile Det attention rates you have to improve education scores you have to um make food healthy food far more accessible it would be very easy to open up uh enormous food pantries in the inner city and finance it in comparison the amount Of money we spend on other countries doing transgender monkey studies you or whatever the [ __ ] we do because you know the stuff they do is

nuts like $20 million to Sesame treat in Iraq it's bananas so just if you got enough money for that you got enough money to set up food banks in every [ __ ] City where poor people can get nutritious food just sign on have a driver's license whatever the [ __ ] you need to get your food and what are the downstream effects of that Like you have way less health issues which takes down the cost of healthare yeah this is also people aren't desperate because you can actually always eat you know which is a

real problem with some people in this country right what's this about Jamie what are you pulling this up for him they didn't do very good job apparently oh well I'm sure they probably well I said they did do corruption there was some waste right cuz I was talking about these power Plants they built that didn't matter but the point is it was a business so you got businesses involved and they they went in and they got contracts to do things yeah if you got contracts to re-engineer these communities slowly over time you'd have to do

it where it didn't shock the community but slowly over time unfortunately you would have to ramp up the law enforcement because there's going to be resistance if you're going to go to the south side of Chicago And try to clean it up you got gangs in there shooting each other every weekend you got real [ __ ] problems have you have you um but what's the alternative let that keep going on forever no you can't so you have to rip the bandaid off have you heard of the guy he's the uh president I think of

El Salvador oh the guy who made all those um the camps for those people yeah I'm sure there's tons of I'm sure there's tons of criticism right 100% but I think El Salvador has Become like the safest country in Central and South America yeah there's no criminal L they're all in jail and and I'm sure it's some like there might even be like a little North Korea [ __ ] where it's like yeah you're not in the gang but like your cousin is and you hang out with him and now you're in his prison and

sure of course but what they've done is completely like revolutionized the country and if you ask the other people That are not gang affiliated at all there's this like undying support I think he has like a 91% support rating or whatever that is and it's like these people feel like they got their lives back now I'm sure as I'm saying there's going to be people going like oh it's are civil rights violations yeah yeah you know what else is also civil rights violation when your like city is completely run by a gang and you're terrified

to let your kid Leave the house yeah so like there is a version where having more uh punitive measures for people that are breaking the law will increase safety and the prosperity of the people in that region like in order to get investment into the south side of Chicago you need to make it safer Starbucks is an opening if it's getting broken into every [ __ ] week so yeah it's um yeah I like that one of the first things you would Finance is community centers You' Finance like a Real great Community recck Center where

kids if their mom's working yeah no one's there to take care of them they got real good coaches there they got people that can set them up maybe for potential athletic scholarships they're talented maybe you have people that teach you how to play music that's where I went when I was a kid you know I went to the Carmine Street Recreation Center that's where I played basketball and it was this beautiful place this amazing Oasis where like not only you to play friend you know meet friends and stuff like that but I'm getting to compete

I'm getting to play against guys way better than me and there're these I mean even as I say this right now I'm like I got to like donate money to like they've they created this place where there was a lot of kids in those programs they might have ended up doing some [ __ ] up [ __ ] man and they had a place where they could go there was like a safe haven Yeah and uh look at us talking like some Libs on this PO man well I think we are liberal of course we

are that's the the biggest misconception of all this is we don't want this place to be better but there have to be certain changes dud I'm socially about as liberal as it gets and I'm a firm believer in a social safety net too I'm a firm believer in welfare and food stamps I just think there's a way there's a way to address the root of the problem which is people with no hope And you got to the way to do that is you got to give them hope you have to make it safer for them

to live where they live you have to make it healthier for them to live where they live and then I don't think it would cost that much to provide guidance for a bunch of kids that want guidance and if you have good solid role models that know how to do that kind of stuff and they can all work together and build a program and then what if those kids wind up being like Really talented musicians or really talented athletes or whatever the [ __ ] it is what happen at classes like like what's what's happening

there like I feel like you you've created an environment where it's like these guys can make enough money to survive which is a very hard thing to do as a fledgling comedian right and some of these guys who are door guys they're starting to get spots around even like some of my guys you know like obviously Derek Poston is like making real money right and learning how to flourish as a comedian instead of working 60 hours at a job and then doing comedy when he potentially can right and you hopefully get to see this Artistry

grow like I've watched Derek explode as a [ __ ] comedian like this guy's so [ __ ] funny he's he's so lovable it's he's so L he's got a he's got a don't tell coming out April 16th he's and i' I've watched his [ __ ] amazing everybody go Check that out nice but that's the type of environment that I imagine that you can create now you're very benevolent right but you would hope that the government can create that same level of benevolence without leaking too much money yeah it just it has to be

done for the right reasons the right way with the right people and that was what we pulled off with the mothership because I was able to get everybody from California but also I knew that that was the Formula because it was kind of like the heart and soul of the store it was like the people that were the coolest people that were running things over there bring BR them over here and it was just the whole thing was so nuts dude it was like the universe wanted it to happen every light turned green right when

we got to it every light turned it just none of it makes sense on paper if you thought about like the idea behind dumping a ton of money in a club and Your ultimate goal is to break even like who [ __ ] who [ __ ] does that and then it also you have to but that's government government shouldn't make money so the ultimate goal should be to break even well you your ultimate goal shouldn't be everything is a money Venture right so the club is not a money Venture right the club is a

artistic it's like a I want it to be like a camp like camp for Comics like you go there all your buddies are there everybody's Having a good time we're all trading we were all last night me and Shane Gillis were breaking down the me and Shane Gillis did bottom of the barrel last night for an hour oh we were on stage for an hour it was the most fun I've ever had doing it we were crying good like tears rolling down my face crying laughing and then we're hanging out in the green room we're

breaking down this bit and we're coming up with new Lin it's like a laboratory it's a hangout we Got you know [ __ ] Gary Clark Jr's playing on the stereo everybody's vibing we're all laughing Woody harelson is hanging out with us we're all having such a good [ __ ] time man it's like that's what I wanted to build I didn't want to build a business I was it wasn't like well if I do if I sell drinks for x amount of money and then I charge this amount for ticket and [ __ ]

the comedians over I do the opposite I pay the comedians way more than everybody else Pays and looks what happens but that's that's just to try to facilitate this artist Colony I just wanted to be a place where this is like the mothership even as a name like we came up with the mothership because the first one was the Asylum because uh uh Mitsy Shore God bless her she uh always used to say oh the inmates are running the Asylum that was her thing whenever she would come to the store she loved that we were

crazy she loved like You know you know Dom Baris like jumping around backstage and everybody's laughing and Joey Diaz telling some crazy story and then mity would pull up and she'd get out of a car oh the inmates are running the Asylum and I was like if we're going to Branch out we should just call it the Asylum you know I like Mothership the mothership was better because the first of all Asylum was already taken there's like a couple of different asylums so we Couldn't have Asylum and then it was like I'm so fascinated with

UFOs I'm so obsessed with that [ __ ] anyway mothership is like the place where we all launch from so when we go all throughout the rest of the country you always come back to the Mothership yeah there's a uh like creating environments where where art flourishes is uh so I did Kill Tony the other day and it's been a while since I've done like the Whole show I came out for MSG that was fun that was incredible we had such a good time oh dude it was great oh we had such a good time

your stupid jacket oh my God oh my God that jacket had to have it I knew I wanted to wear a fur jacket yeah I was like um I I told Tony I'm like I'm getting a fur coat I have to get a fur coat I think I talked to you the day before you're like you get a I got it today of the show yeah you texted me something you're like yeah I Think I'm wearing this yeah my boy Phil found this dude who's a a private Shopper and he found the spot to go

he's like one of them celebrity Shopper dudes and he found me the spot so and I was on it and uh so and I'm watching the like in the interviews the interviews are really fun like a lot of these Comics are really green and they're going in there and trying to find something but like the interview portion and I'm probably saying something that everybody Already knows but when I watch kilton I'm watching it in clip form right so I'm seeing like these like 60c versions right but what I thought was really interesting about the interviews

is there's a real generosity with Tony right he's I don't know if even the comics realize this like he's trying to get you to write your first good joke he's asking you questions where you don't have to be funny but they are funny because you're just speaking Truthfully right and it is generous it's easy to just like you could bang on every single one of the people that go up there right but it's that's not exactly what's happening sometimes of course people are going to get jokes but there's this moment where like you get to

watch some of these guys like hopefully they're realizing they're like oh I am oh that is a kind of funny thing about me and that's like the first kernel of like where they'll write their First good joke yeah and it's a really cool thing to witness and uh yeah there's a couple guys that went up and like there's one guy like his joke sucked but he had something like I just kept watching him yeah and I was like you're going to be good like I hope you keep doing this cuz you're going to be good

and like we started asking him the questions he was this Mexican guy from San Antonio and he works at like Office Depot and there was something funny About like hold on so like there was like something about like you know he's selling like papers and I was like hold on so there's like a Mexican guy like people are asking for paper like there's just like there's all these like like it seems like a setup you know so but it was just really cool to see it happen and like it reminded me of these early stages

of Comedy where you're putting together these things that you think are funny and funny is kind of Already existing in you you know and um yeah it was just it was a cool aspect of the show that I'm sure the people that watch it and it's just a massively successful show so they're familiar but maybe the people that don't watch it aren't don't know about the show they just think Tony's just roasting people and it's he's he's not it's a very generous thing to do yeah it is well Tony loves comedy and loves comedy to

the point where he's always writing Lines for people backstage he's always like giving people tags and he's always talking about did you do that bit like I love that bit like he's super supportive yeah with comedy and he loves when the guys who do his show like William Montgomery when they start to flourish they start killing it on the road he loves that he [ __ ] he he's actually put together a tour now the killers of kill Tony I've seen it and they're doing like [ __ ] theaters yeah big and They're kill these

guys are good man Ari Matty is [ __ ] talking him yesterday man he's [ __ ] smart he's funny he's super ambitious he writes he wants to be an American so bad great he's a fun hang he's got great perspective on stuff also like yeah he he he know he's an MMA fighter I I remember seeing like for three times wow wow wow yeah he's a big guy too yeah yeah but like yeah remember like he even had a joke yesterday I mean whatever it will come out but like it Was funny like he

tapped into something at the end of the bit that he did when he does the minute and then in the interview it really became the thing ah right right right because what you get to watch is like he's like he's a veteran comic like he's probably been doing it 10 or 12 years right so like you get into real comedian mode around 10 right yeah and you got to witness live what we do backstage which is like y I like that idea why why did you do This and he said a line at the end

of when we're just doing the interview that I think is going to be what this joke builds out into I don't want to give it away like obvious people go watch it but to me like that part of the process is so fun oh yeah and it is I I don't know if people know this about it like it is really fun to like work on someone else's bit like it there's it's there's almost like more freedom because you're less attached to it right you Know like if if you have something and you're like telling

me the idea like I'm not you have you're attached like a direction for it and I'm just coming from all these other places and what if my tag bombs it doesn't matter it's you're the one going to do it but it is this exciting thing when you have a colonel and yeah that this this moment happened with it and you could even see him go oh [ __ ] that's oh yeah yeah yeah that's the next level of it yeah anyway Yeah they emerge right those the new chapters in your bits your new paragraphs they

emerge it's the best and for me it's like I need to talk to get it out I'm not like a sit at home and like I write the ideas like I need to I need to be yeah I got this idea and what do you think about this and then you have to like give me push back on it and then right confronting that push back is like where the bit develops for me and that's the beauty of like the audience Not laughing well that's why you like New York City when you moved to Miami

you were like it's too nice it was like life was beautiful everybody was caring about family and everything and it was just so comfortable and I was like I didn't have any like resistance I need so funny like I'm used to that chaos I I need the opposite what do you mean your whole life is resistance you're in resistance with people I don't I don't want to deal with People's [ __ ] I got my own [ __ ] de my ice yeah there it is you just want to get out there and grind it

out I do 30 minutes on the sixth train right bro you better have a bulletproof vest yeah yeah the uh anyway what you were saying about like hope that it is interesting and I see like I see that for Comics especially here there's this idea of like getting on the show and seeing a pathway to success it's a real pathway it's a real Pathway to a career and You've seen many many many people go through it like cam Patterson David Lucas these guys all have careers now yeah he he had a funny bit too like

Cam's funny man he's funny I think there's a little bit of a hindrance in that one minute a week because it's like you spend so much time working on that one minute that maybe you don't spend enough time tightening up your hour whatever you have when you're on the road I was like what you give this Minute out and it goes out to the whole comedy World M and I that's I was ask saying are I was like can you still do those bits like cuz some of these aren't finished they're just the [ __

] beginning of it right right don't let those go like right build on them as long as you're building on them as long as you got more to it and it's better now I think people want it I think it also there's this understanding those guys are on the come up and they're They're putting it all together and I think there's a certain amount of times you do it where you got to eventually leave I say that but then there's William Montgomery who does it every [ __ ] week and Williams got this and even

if his jokes suck it's F because even because he gets angry he gets angry at himself he gets angry at the crowd and then he gets funny bro have you been seeing Brian Holman lately no no no no oh my God he's the sweetest guy by the Way shout out Brian man he is so different than his on stage monster the on stage Brian Holzman he needs a name in a different thing it's like there's a different human that comes out when he's on stage he would you would think that he's a complete psychopath in

real life and he's just the kindest sweetest guy wonderful I love him to death he's all hugs and joy and smiles and he's always helping people into a detriment like one of the things about his shows we've had To like stop some of the people that he allows open for him cuz it's people that haven't done comedy in forever and still know him like you think I could do a set sure come on bye and then they eat dick for 10 minutes and the crowd gets tortured So Adam had to put the breakes on that

but but he himself is on fire yeah on Shane and I were crying laughing watching his set last night I mean crying laughing Shane's so funny he he he had the aux cord last night at at Bitsy's and like I didn't know who was putting on the music because it was just this like random collection of music and then uh he then this fetty [ __ ] song comes on right and I want you to be mine again baby and I look over at the bar and I just see him kind of mouthing it I

want you to beat my this [ __ ] got the ax Ah that's hilarious he was locked in bro yeah we all have good Green Room soundtracks oh yeah yeah we that's a big Thing I don't think anybody would guess your Green Room music like if they walked into your green room and they heard the music playing there's nobody that would go oh yeah Joe picked this song yeah maybe nobody it might be one or two songs that pop up '90s like deep cut rap yeah like deep like krs1 or something right right Coogi rap

in the Brand New Heavies yeah I remember the first time I came down here and it was like blasting and I was like yo who the F like I'm looking around like nobody's old enough to even know cool rap in this in this green room and I just see you like popping your getting ready to [ __ ] go on you just yeah man death threat with Brand New Heavies is my favorite before I go on stage song that's interesting I don't know I don't know oh man you don't know you don't know that song

no I don't think so oh my God so the Brand New Heavies and I found out about this song I teared up when I Was talking about Mitsy earlier still a little teary what what what were you thinking oh just just her what was it just her saying um you know all the inmates run the Asylum it just makes me cry why cuz that lady was like all the [ __ ] that I do at the club like I learned how to do it from her yeah like you learn how to like facilitate comedy like

to help comedy grow I learned it all from her yeah all of it it's kind of cool how People exist through us you know like obviously she's passed but well that's why the bars name mity yeah but the effects live on I would have named the whole club msis if I didn't want to get sued by the family they would I don't think they would have sued me but no they let me actually use the name for the bar yeah uh but and we have a picture picture of mity in the bar too what was

your guys relationship like well I mean she was still Lucid when I Met her you know I met her in '94 and she was like super supportive she just like you know she just knew what to do man like she knew how to set you up and if she liked you she would put you on after murderers yeah I had to follow Martin Lawrence in the main room for like like [ __ ] weeks and weeks at a time if Martin Lawrence was going to headline I was going to go on after him Martin Lawrence

94 95 okay so you got to Understand Martin Lawrence people forgot Martin Lawrence let me tell you right now go watch you so crazy Martin Lawrence go watch de Comedy Jam the greatest host of De Comedy Jam ever his timing but his performan is when it's his hour his timing his energy infectious oh he was so good he was so good and I used to eat [ __ ] going on after him every night and mity no matter who was there Dice Clay Rogan you're on after dice it's like whoever the [ __ ] it

Is I'm going on after him that she just knew how to throw of the Wolves man she knew how to like show you that your act is [ __ ] there's there's a couple guys like atel did that for me and in New York like I would close the The Late Show at the Sellar and a would go up and then I would go up after him and like that [ __ ] will turn you into a man it'll humble you it you just realize when somebody's operating on like every single cylinder firing and you

get up After it and you're like oh wow I'm missing something he has something that I don't have and I need to find that [ __ ] when you're going up in like the cushy spot second or third and you're killing you think you're the funniest in the world and then when you follow somebody that like levels the room and the whole room is kind of unsure if he's just like inventing these things in the moment if these are bits like they just get caught up in this like tornado of Creativity and you got to

follow it in that [ __ ] following him following Mike Brit following Greer like following these guys that are just just like Masters yeah it just turns you into a man that's why I started taking Joey on the road with me cuz I couldn't follow him really yeah yeah you love hard [ __ ] you [ __ ] love making your life difficult it's not even making your life difficult it's realizing like you're trying to get you're not as good as You're ever going to get at this right you have to get better how do

you get better you have to be challenged how do you get challenged know that you're going to follow Joey Diaz every night three nights in a row two shows on Friday two shows on Saturday this is this is I feel like a this is something that uh there's a lot of importance to this I don't know if if comedians are doing this all the time but like your openers That you take on the road with you like they should really be pressing you they should set the tone of the show and they're going to set

the expectation of the show I think sometimes people want to save the day that's weak that's that same [ __ ] feeling like I hope the guy after me bombs that's the same [ __ ] feeling yeah I want the audience to have a great [ __ ] time so I want everybody to kill I love when I get the message like or like tagged and A post on Instagram and it was like all three of them were [ __ ] great and it's like and also like I understand what it means probably for them

cuz I've been in maybe that situation where you're like holy [ __ ] like yeah they're bringing me up with the show and they're they're in a tougher spot than me you know Derek going up hosting people are walking into an arena yep so to kill that room to like command attention while people are walking down an aisle And Derek's a perfect guy for something like that he's got so much energy and he's so good at [ __ ] around he's so good creating an energy of fun and Mark 2 is just [ __ ]

like crushing and like seeing them go up there and like really lay in like hearing it before I go up like that's that's the fun thing like I'll be locked in my room but then when I come out like a few minutes before just hearing them light up yeah yeah you got to take strong eyes man yeah and It's the people have the weird fear of being eclipsed that's the thing it's fear of being eclipsed while you're opening act but you'll get better get better you're better like you're headlining like you're clearly good at this

and it's going to make you better when these guys bust your [ __ ] ass sometimes yeah maybe you're not working as hard as you should be working maybe you're not at your best and nothing will make you work hard than being Embarrassed right also I don't know how you operate but for me I'm funnier if I'm having fun so if I'm hanging out with you know Ari and Duncan and Joey and we're all doing a show together we are laughing our [ __ ] ass off and that comes out on stage and you're loose

and you're ready to get Goofy and I'm laughing at Joey before I even go on stage I'm sitting there laughing at his act before I get up there so I go up there I'm already in a great [ __ ] Mood and the audience feels like they didn't get robbed you know you didn't like throw some scrub up there for 20 minutes just to fill time so you could look like a superhero that's yeah it's like they're paying money man I I keep thinking about that like all these people that come out to a show

it's not just the ticket price right it's the babysitter it's everything it's the Uber it's the dinner like this is an expensive [ __ ] night for them and They're looking forward to it you might only get one date night a week especially if you have family you bro I was in uh I was in not Seattle like uh what's the other one in Washington it's not Tacoma something more Inland forget there's a comedy club out there Spokane Spokane this was years ago and I did a show and like a couple came up afterwards and

they were like uh this is our first night out in eight years whoa and I think about that every single time Before I go on stage that's a good thing to think about that's a good thing to think about yeah like those people that are like really but you don't take things for granted anyway you know some some people get a little sloppy you get a little loose and you take things for granted I no man we were talking about that on stage the or in the green room the other night Woody was backstage like

you guys get nervous I'm like I get nervous for every show if I don't get Nervous I don't do as good I get nervous I get nervous for everything important yeah and every Show's important yeah like it's not important like my life depends on it but it's important like it's important to me it's important to the audience like I want to do it right so I want to figure out what I'm working on I want to sit I'm like I got to be loose with this cuz this is this thing is still in development so

let's [ __ ] around with that a little bit but we're Going to bring it back with this and I'm going over my phone when I'm sitting back there before I go up there I'm ready yeah you care if you don't do that I don't think you ever you achieve what you're trying to achieve yeah I feel like sometimes uh people like I don't know if they pretend to not care or maybe like they think not caring is cool that's what it is caring caring is cool like I I I really care I work really

hard and I I think that you should work Really hard I want to make really great stuff I'm proud of and I don't want to just be like oh it's [ __ ] gay to care it's like no it's not gay to care it's gay it's not gay to like have people come out and spend a lot of money and then you just [ __ ] flop on stage and don't give a [ __ ] right it's care to like it's cool to like try to give them the best possible show yeah you know that's

cool yeah that's cool yeah it's just is a thing because you do care so You try to pretend you don't because the cooler people don't care the co cooler people just bomb I remember I watched Bill Hicks bomb once and I was so goddamn impressed I was so I was so imp first of all he was very funny but the stuff that he was talking about was so out there he went on there was this comedian very nice guy um who went on before Bill Hicks yeah uh his his thing was uh comic on a

Harley that was his name like his thing I forget Larry Something comic on Harley Nice Guy funny guy but he did like a lot of stuff about Like Bugs Bunny smoking weed like real simple stuff like but it like made people laugh cops and donuts like like cliche [ __ ] but good and killed and like just good enough for this blue collar crowd atck comedy stop and then Bill Hicks goes on stage and uh he's smoking a cigarette and he's uh talking about uh I came here to uh fill you up with ideas you

couldn't possibly Imagine on your own and then how did the Boston crowd take that oh they didn't take it good at all he he didn't just bomb he cleared the room and he was doing this bit where uh Satan has sex with uh John Davidson who is the host of that's incredible like Satan is uh [ __ ] John Davidson and then um impregnates him and then he shits out I forget who he shits out like different people at different time but he's like he's sitting on a toilet on Stage pretending he's sitting on a

toilet grunting like and then he looks up in the middle people are getting up and Dron go n this generally clears the room like gets right back to it but I mean never lost his timing never lost his composure and it wasn't that it wasn't funny it was me and Fitz Simmons were in the back of the room me and Fitz s was where you knew Greg from back in Boston Greg and I started a week apart from each other get out of here we've Been friends since we were like I was 21 I think

he was 22 or 23 yeah yeah we've been friends from the very very beginning yeah wow um so Greg and I were both open micers at the time and we just knew that hicks was coming we wanted to watch and we sat in the back of the room we were [ __ ] crying crying laughing so there was like 50 people left 10 comics 40 Savages who just thought this guy was genius and then the other 200 plus people they all Left they all left wow 200 is crazy to leave bro it was a it

was a blood bath like half the crowd more than half the crowd left yeah no it was like three qu of the crowd probably that's a large percentage it was a large percentage there wasn't much left but Fitz Simmons and I fondly talk about that day like he never lost his cool he almost like he I don't know when he knew he had pancreatic cancer cuz he died a few years later but he kind of seemed like a Guy that whatever the fear of bombing and whatever this thing of failure that wasn't on his mind

it didn't bother him I was like when you have limited time that's not wonder if that's what it was I don't know if he knew already but he was so calm up there yeah you know but funny very funny but just he changed the way people wanted to do comedy cuz everybody after that wanted to be profound yes nobody wanted to be profound before that they just wanted to Get big laughs yeah then all a sudden everybody wanted to be profound yeah you know it was interesting like he became like this poet yeah you know

you see trends like that pop up stylistically people are so influential that like it changes the way people do their comedy and It's tricky because like you can only be great at the thing you do that's how I feel at least about it like yeah if you are profound and then profound comedy is popular then you will be Really good at it but if you're a silly goose right it's not worth trying to be profound right right right because you being silly is going to be the best version of you and the people will appreciate

that the most also you can't trick people they know even even if they're not aware of it they know they know something's off yeah something's off that's the the honesty in it yeah there's brutal honesty in it like we could and sometimes they'll even laugh But they know that you're lying yeah yeah yeah yeah you know like they know that it's not real and like it exists for maybe 10 15 minutes but like I think it kind of gets exposed once you get into those hourong sets M it can for sure you got to be

you got to be who you are right yeah and it has to has to gel together with you you have to be into what you're doing if you're not into what you're doing you can't say the same words with the same Inflection without the same mindset like if your mindset is off they [ __ ] know man it doesn't matter what your timing is they know they know you're not locked in so they're not locked in like how come you didn't bring me in you know yeah like when someone's K like last night when hone

was killing and me and Shane were laughing we were locked into whatever this psychopath was talking about he's talking about drowning people I like like he's so out of his [ __ ] Mind it was so funny yeah it was so funny but you give them that you let them take your mind for a ride if it's real to them I me that's the thing about Joey that I've I've always admired is like it's it's pure it's authentic like you can kind of get away with whatever you want if it's pure yeah and uh when

we know you're faking and and you're doing something that makes me feel uncomfortable now I'm double uncomfortable right I can be Uncomfortable if it's real to you yeah like I can I can sustain that like you might be talking about some [ __ ] that makes me feel a little weird but it's real to you so I go okay I'm going to rock with you on this this is this is a pure version of of your art but yeah you don't want to lie to people man yeah also if you do it then you're stuck

now that's how you do art you lie to people so you're always trying to like concoct some New [ __ ] weird version of yourself what's what's what's what's going to sell more you're a pop music star now what you yeah yeah like what do you that's what you're like you like doing pop music comedy but there are yeah there are people that like get attached to what works and then they can't run away they're like scared to run away with and I kind of have empathy for it because it's like you probably struggle for

so long you find something That works and you're like okay finally I'm able to make some money finally I'm able to have some security but you you got to keep growing past it you know I think generally those people are self-obsessed too um in a bad way where they thinking about themselves and success rather than the thing they're doing like what is the thing I'm doing the thing I'm doing is I'm trying to create something that's good that works I'm trying to make it the best version Of whatever [ __ ] it is so how

do I do that you can't be thinking about yourself and do that that's why thieves can't write yeah because the the M mentality being a thief is I want that idea for myself it's not like how I want to create you're not addictive to creating which is like the coolest part about this we get to create whatever the [ __ ] we want and if you get to a point like luckily where you get a couple bucks in the bank Those Creations should be even more specific to you yeah right because you're not doing it

so you can buy another house right like you're doing it because you truly spent 20 years of your life trying to get good at something and then you can create whatever the [ __ ] you want and also those those new things those new things that pop out they feel like gifts from the universe like a new bit that's a banger it's like where did this come from this came from the Universe that [ __ ] exists before you that's why I always try to say like comedy is there and then we find it you

got to find not you're not making it and when you're making it it it feels too contrived but the comedy exists bro I got to pee so bad let let's pause pause real quick we right back and pee are we back in yeah we're back dog we're back yeah comedy's great comedy's the best job on Earth for us for us you know I was trying to talk Woody into doing it Last night I mean cuz he was thinking about it because apparently he had I said I will 100% help you he goes would you really

I go 100% I go if you want to do comedy I'll get you time I'll I'll work with you on material I'll get guys to help you I'll work with you look this you could totally do it if you could do that monologue on SNL you could do stand up yeah you could do stand up brave for that monologue yeah Brave guy yeah CU he has a lot to Lose perception wise like maybe he doesn't care but that's where like bravery comes in like when you got nothing to lose it's like yeah you can kind

of say whatever the [ __ ] you want doesn't really matter he's kind of grandfathered in oh really he's Woody harelson but you don't think it could affect at all like it could but I don't think anymore I think the world's kind of woken up the the fact that first of all he's accurate like you really can't Attack what he's saying yeah you know so like you you don't think he should be saying it okay well that's kind of debatable and that's on you I I think he can say whatever the [ __ ] he

wants in that regard you know yeah cuz it's like at this point it's like who who doesn't think he's accurate yeah like you're in denial if you don't think he's accurate this is a problem the Democrats have right now what's that is that the Trump Administration what they're uncovering With Doge like all this waste and Fraud and Abuse whatever whatever you want to categorize it as and I'm sure there's a bunch of things that fall into different categories yeah but um the the Democrats aren't acknowledging that it's a problem at all they're not saying when

you find this building in San Antonio that they spent $2 billion on it it's completely empty and it's getting you know a million dollars a month or whatever the [ __ ] it's getting and where's that money Going yeah the tricky thing about this um the do thing is like like there I don't think there's any American out there that is supportive of waste fraud and Corruption it should be a bipartisan issue right right like it's a very easy thing to get on board with right and this is where I feel like I feel like

elon's being a little antagonistic I have a lot of respect for Elon don't get me wrong but like it's Becoming easier to be a bipartisan issue in the way that it's communicated whereas like having that like political decorum like having that ability to pull everybody into this thing might be a little bit more effective on an issue that we can all get behind there is no American that wants waste fraud and Corruption I hate that this is becoming bipartisan it it drives me [ __ ] crazy because on the surface nobody wants the waste right

like both democrats should Be this shouldn't be they shouldn't be booing or whatever the [ __ ] was happening at that like uh hearing last not even hearing he was like addressing the Senate this shouldn't should be everybody going hey we agree this is [ __ ] up this is happening in some of our um regions or whatever it is like where you're responsible for those constituents what's that called your if you're a congressman your your District we need to be better about this we need To fix this we got to take this on the

chin and we agree and it could be this great revolution in America that could really support everybody and it's become this [ __ ] bipartisan issue and I understand there's like a lot of currency in like making the opposition look radioactive I get that but this is where you wish that there was like this uh some sort of masterful communication version of this instead of a little bit more of like this like putting the knife In and twisting a little yeah no I agree I agree on both sides I think um the people are really

foolish spending all their time just attacking the ideas of the other party instead of promoting really good ideas of your own amen and um the thing about this whole Doge thing is it's such a lightning rod and one of the reason why it's such a lightning rod is because these politicians are being pressured to try to keep a lot of the spending because a Lot of the spending is it's all Shenanigans it's moving around thousands of different Nos and you're talking about billions and billions and billions of dollars that were going somewhere so people were

profiting people were people had jobs and they want to keep all those jobs they want to keep that money flowing in even the [ __ ] money as much as they can so there's [ __ ] court orders and there's lawsuits and there's Supreme Court just uh stopped a $1.9 billion freeze on something or something that just came up it was today so there's like legal battles about all this stuff um you're you're going to have a lot of confusion in that regard but I think it's important one of the things they're doing is they're

highlighting the ridiculous things like they're highlighting the $250 million on a transgender animal studies 4.7 trillion that they can't account for the way that he was saying it did you watch It I mean is hilarious oh you got to watch him talk about it it's I'm I'm sure it's amazing and I will I will watch I just didn't have I was busy last night but it's like there's there's also a way to um to really clearly Express to people that there's legitimate use for Aid and that this isn't really us Aid it's u United States

agency for International Development if you're worried about foreign aid I fully completely agree we should spend money In third world countries building Wells we should spend money trying to get food to to poor people and that's not what this program is that's not what this is about and if it's about like exercis care for people and and providing free clinics for people in impoverished areas yeah we should spend on that but also that's not where this money's going a lot of this is regime overthrowing money this is regime change money a lot of this is

like money that's being propped Up they're sending money to the Taliban every [ __ ] week like this is crazy like you have to understand what really is so what we have to do I think as Americans is look you got a president he's your president whether you like it or not as your president for four years let's hope he does a great job yeah wouldn't you want him to do the great job he's the captain of the ship I don't want to hit the Rocks let's hope he gets us into a beautiful Harbor absolutely

so Together that doesn't mean the Democrats can't win in four years but you can't win doing this you can't win all saying this [ __ ] ain't right and then all of you say the exact same thing well now I know who's on the take now I know who's got the script now I know who doesn't have a [ __ ] mind of their own you have to read the script that whatever corporate daddy filed onto your desk it's Think Tank politics they need a real leader and those real leaders are All [ __ ]

hounds and they're all going to that's a problem they all got skeletons yeah it's got to come from outside yeah I wonder like or they got to be a guy like Trump who could take the hits that's and and and keep on trucking you need to have like a very strong Constitution to do that I don't understand his Constitution what do you mean you go through the same [ __ ] yeah but his is beyond they shot him dude Yeah they haven't shot you yet not only do they shoot him yet not only perform inside

that's the problem part of the problem yeah but not only did they shoot him but um people forgot about it in two weeks yeah and to this day moving right along he didn't get shot enough to this like people were talking about his ear they're like oh but it doesn't look that shot and it's like there's so many people that think that he rigged it that He did it on purpose that he staged it yeah he staged a bullet coming nicking his ear like they don't understand accuracy come on especially with iron sights you know

he didn't even have a scope on the rifle so iron do you know what iron sights are okay so like say if you have a pistol and the back of the pistol where the handle is there's these oh the little thing that you're supposed to look through and then there's a little post at the front and you line The two of them up like that yeah and he's shooting 140 yards with iron sights like you can't just Nick someone's ear you'll hit their [ __ ] head you'll blow their brains out accidentally how much you

have to account for Gravity at that distance you don't you don't that's really short that's a short distance that's why you can like put the post on it if you wanted to go long distance then you would want a scope you want a high-powered scope and you would also Use ballistic software so ballistic software is like you would apply like there there's like a watch that has it built in actually the Garmin tactics X tactics 8 rather um so you um you would take this ballistic software you calculate the distance so there's a you would

use a rangefinder the ra which he had by the way he had a [ __ ] he was walking around with a rangefinder before the they saw him with a rangefinder they didn't even arrest him somebody let him On that roof they [ __ ] gave him that gun that's what I think um the rangefinder would say oh 500 yards so then you would set your sight for 500 yards and then it adjust accordingly when you're right so your your your your um your application with some Scopes you can actually sync up your scope with

your app so it'll put the reticle it'll put the crosshairs exactly where you need to aim for the bullet to drop exactly exactly that makes sense so the Reticle does the the X would move up and down accordingly yeah exactly but at that distance you're saying that there isn't too much no there's no and he's also elevated it's a straight shot it's a pretty fair I mean maybe a very slight drop because it's only like a millisecond before it hits him it's a very slight drop at that but when you get to like significant distances

like 400 yards 500 yards it it's a factor yeah like you hold high like say if you Have so if you're zeroed say if I'm shooting a deer and my rifle's zeroed at 100 yards that means at 100 yards it shoots exactly where that crosshairs is but but the deer's 300 yards I'll hold it the top of his back because you know that's going to come down it's going to drop this is with bows or this is with a rifle and then with bows I imagine it's even more with bows it's you have to be

very very sure because there's so much drop there's so much drop yeah there's So much drop like I have um um a rangefinder that's not just a rangefinder it's called a full draw it's a loople full draw five and what it does is it doesn't just put the reticle and tell me the exact distance say I'm not aiming with this this is just giving me the distance but it also shows being a line where the peak of the arrow height is because the arrow arcs right so what I'm doing is I'm shooting through trees sometimes

like I'm trying to shoot an Animal and I'm shooting through a gap in the trees so you have to make sure that on the drop it passes through that Gap in the tree exactly exactly exactly like you like there's a video of me hunting with Cam we were hunting in Utah um and uh it was for Under Armour back when he was with Under Armour and I had to shoot this elk through trees I th shot it through like it's a video you can see the arrow go right through this it's one probably The most

beautiful shots I've ever made and I made it on camera because I was kind of freaking out I got have a hunt on camera like hunting is a big thing for a celebrity to be doing your hunting but you're also going to hunt on camera and you're going to hunt on camera with a bow and arrow so I was like super locked in and it was just it was perfect it was just magical how that Arrow went right through this Gap yeah just thread the needle and right in the heart it was Perfect it was

perfect shot like exactly where you run right behind the shoulder right up here it was like double lungs in the top of the heart wo [ __ ] and then you got to carry that [ __ ] yeah well you got to chop it up first you're not carrying it that's the thing that's the thing that like I never accounted for I was watching I don't know if it was some video you posted or maybe it was cam but like I always thought about the hunting part like okay Let's find it let's track it let's

shoot it but I never thought about getting home with all the meat oh yeah man that seems so it's very hard and what what we do is way easier than what some guys do some guys do public land solo backpack elk hunting so they're throwing the [ __ ] in the backpack they have a pack so they'll take like a pack like uh great pack is like EXO Mountain gear a great company that makes packs and they have different frame Based on your height it's all made to so you can carry a lot of weight

on your body a lot of it sits on your hips and it's all like oh dises the weight so you're not just genly if you pull up like EXO Mountain gear uh backpacks like they have specific packs that are designed so you can carry 100 lounds on your back right like as comfortably as you can but it's [ __ ] brutal so these guys might hike in I'm not no [ __ ] so so that's what it looks like so see All these packs so get the picture of those guys when they have it on

their back Jamie the one above that yeah that one right there so that's what it would look like for two dudes who are carrying their whole camp on their back so they probably have their tent in there they have their sleeping bag in there they have food in there for a week like you you got freeze-dried food generally speaking guys bring like Mount like there's a bunch of different meals like Mountain Ops not not Mountain Ops like there's a bunch of different companies so like this is a guy like in an L quarter on his

back that [ __ ] probably has 100 lb on his back right now because he has his bag and his pack which is probably 50 lb and then he has a giant ass elk leg on his back all right so is there ever like a distance that they deem too far because walking back with the elk it wouldn't be worth it so like I imagine you're tracking for A while it's not like you just walk in and there are all the Elks right you have to find them yeah well you can get lucky and find

him a couple of miles in and that's that's pretty nice but is there a point where you go I'm not going more than five because five back carrying the elk would be tooo difficult yeah some guys do that but some guys are hard [ __ ] core like they'll kill an elk 25 miles in and spend three days bringing it back so and now you have elk Carcass mhm you have all the other animals that also he string it up in a tree got it so getting it it's like oh what is that old man

in the sea is that the book where like he he gets the he finally hunts and gets this big F but fish but he's got to bring it back and by the time he brings it back it's just like a skeleton nobody believes he got the amazing big fish but like I can't like you don't ever think about the journey back yeah that seems Almost more stressful well the the right the best way to do it the back country if you have the money is horses they they they have horses take you back there and

the the horses will pack or mules yeah so you can pack them up with they yeah they they'll keep your camp on their back right and you you'll have like several like a train of them and then you could load them up with like El quarters and and then take them back and for them it ain't [ __ ] it's thousands of Pounds right like well it's not really how much is the elk it's about 400 lb of meat oh cuz you're leaving the bones and everything you skin it you cut it up and then

yeah but you got to take some of the bones like you want a rib right like there's if you could have the ribs most guys like most guys cut the rib meat out out of the ribs and you grind it make hamburger or you know chili out of it or things like that yeah yeah yeah cam he he like makes strips and then chops Those strips up like you can there's a lot of different things you could do with uh with rib meat it's pretty tender it's good it's real good when you cook them like

slow over a fire though it's it's it's not the most tender meat like when slow over a when you cook them over a fire it can get pretty tough unless you do it like real low and slow like smoking it almost like they do barbecue yeah but um it makes great hamburger but like the real the the the the what Everybody really loves is like the back strap that's that that's like essentially that' be like the fet The Tender Loin and and then the quarters you make great stakes and you can make what are these

guys do when they age out of this like what yeah you try not to keep working out but like like an NBA player eventually reaches the end of his professional playing ability he might play in a gym but like what what does a cam do at like 75 well he he'll still be Bow hunting at 75 hunt a different thing no no he'll be doing the same thing physical limitations I imagine there are but not as much anymore not not with like hormone replacement and weightlifting it you you know like guys like me didn't exist

30 years ago like 57y old Jack dudes yeah they didn't exist yeah by the time you get 57 all that shit's gone yeah and all that [ __ ] goes away I still have 30-year-old arms They're still legit they were they work real good everything works real good but you have to you know maintain yourself take care of yourself and if there's something like that that you care about you know like I have a friend uh Brendan Burns he runs kuyu it's like a huge um Outdoor Clothing company he's a hardcore bow hunter one of

the best bow hunters in the world was a big-time College wrestler like a great athlete won't even Try jiujitsu because he's the want to hurt himself for hunting like hunting is so important him he's like I'm not skiing I'm not [ __ ] around [ __ ] that I feel like that's my whole workout regimen is just so I could play this sport called paddle it's not pickle ball it's called paddle what is this what is this it's a racket sport that I'm absolutely obsessed with I swear to God it started in aapco Mexico and

then it goes to Spain and it gets blown blown up There and it's essentially like squash and Tennis mixed together so there's there's there's walls there's like this glass wall on the back and these like fences on the side have you heard of this Jamie yeah I played with them yeah we played I dragged him out bro it is it is the most obsessed it's the fastest growing sport in the world right now it will take over 10 are you a spokesperson for paddle is I probably am the only person that is talking about at

this Level this is me yeah this is this is shout out paddle house in New York they got one in Williamsburg and one in Brooklyn amazing this is the game this is the G I'm so bad believable so you play with a deflated tennis ball so what essentially what it is you got to show highlights cuz I I'm so [ __ ] horrible that it's not going to do it justice but the the idea behind it is at least for me is there's always hope so the ball gets past you in tennis you're cooked The

ball gets past you in paddle it bounces off that back wall and you're playing it off the back wall so you're never fully out of the game oh and you're constantly it's my it is the only thing outside of like surfing and boxing and then comedy where I'm not look at this what it is that guy went out the door oh you're allowed to leave and go get it yeah I mean it's just dude I was down in Miami there's a thing called The Reserve cup shout out Reserve how I not Know about this this

is the I'm telling you this will extend my life by God bless 10 20 years really also you got to watch the chicks play because they don't have the power to smack it out so it's just pure skill and and cleverness yeah exactly everything is placement it's delicate placement so what they're trying to do is I'm telling you it's unbelievable and everybody that's playing tennis and squashing all these other racket Sports Is starting to convert to this really tennis everybody from tennis is coming over no I'm talking the professionals I'm talking about like people that

played like in college or whatever really and now they're starting to come over to this like Miami they're obsessed in Europe they're completely obsessed like you go to like Sweden there's like thousands like all like Cristiano Ronaldo and all the soccer guys are all playing it they own the facilities how The [ __ ] am I just finding out about this for the first time you guys got one here what's it called they just built one yeah the paddle Club Austin or something something like that but it's just it is I'm obset it's is never

ending dude I take lessons this guy just ran outside the arena yeah that is crazy but the fact that there's hope the fact is like it's not just brute strength there's that little guy that was playing on the right right there choto is this Guy's like 5'3 and he's so skilled and since it's not uh he's not in this court but uh that that kopia is the best in the world you know all the players I'm obsessed with this in the way that you're obsessed with jiu-jitsu I can't believe I'm just finding out I play

with the I got to play with some of these guys really and they toy with me like they'll just bring me up to the on Drop shots and then bring me back to the end and I'm just running around like a Little [ __ ] but it's like these guys to me are like Michael Jordan or like LeBron James like I I get like giddy around them I'm so excited and like I'm telling you I I I'm taking lessons once a week shout out my boy Lucho in New York the best [ __ ] instructor

on the planet right now he works at paddle house he incredible wow you're taking lessons I'm playing three or four times a week it's like everything yeah this is my whole workout regimen is built around Making sure that my shoulder is okay so can play entire dedication to this the only thing I've been obsessed like with this about is is standup comedy wow it's the only thing and I have no racket sport background I never played tennis growing up like I grew up in the city went to public school it does look fun dude it's

look at you run outside it's just that's so crazy that you run outside that's the point isn't over you know what I mean There's always hope like and that's the beauty of like you're like a really competitive person when you play against someone who's got more strength than you even like when I would like box and [ __ ] like that like somebody who was just bet like he was eventually if they can connect it's over and like even in this and power you can mitigate their power you can move them around the court there

are guys that are way better than me at tennis squash and all these other things But strategically in this game if you don't hit it out I got a chance wow and it's just you should do commentary dude I was telling the guys I literally told the guys dude I was telling Wayne who who owns Reserve man shout out Wayne and I was like I know you have your guys doing it but like dude I am obsessed with this like Joe is with with uh with the UFC and MMA like I you don't need to

pay me like I just want to talk about the sport like I want to build this [ __ ] thing up how do we build this thing up and um I literally thought about you seen you like this before I get dude it drives my wife crazy like I go to [ __ ] brunch on a Sunday and me and my boy Jason are just talking about our paddle games this week oh no dude it's my boy Jason just hit me up and he's like listen I know you got the special and everything going out

but my calf is feeling better so we got a game Wednesday and I'm like okay yeah yeah Yeah yeah I'm ready I'm I that's crazy the coolest it's it's just the coolest thing wow I know you don't [ __ ] with team sports but this is looks fun it's just it definitely looks fun it's great it's great yeah Jamie's a little sneaky athlete oh Jam's a good basketball player Jamie sink threes yeah he's he's sneaky we had a little fun you see him play golf he he's a [ __ ] with the drive he's got

that simulator in the back what's the what's the furthest here Right here we have it in the garage what's the furthest you ever whacked one of those on that I mean I don't know far 300 yard whatever oh wow you're like a legit dude his swing is legit you should have seen Brian Callen trying to swing after Jamie it was comical cuz I'm behind him talking mad [ __ ] I just you ain't going to beat Jamie [ __ ] the the the joy that must have come to you watching Jamie smoke Ken oh it

was so much fun It was so much fun anyway yeah I'm so obsessed with it like that's incredible even now like just the idea that paddle is spoken about on the Rogan podcast it's just crazy how about you told me about it I never even knew it was a thing if someone brought it up to me I'd be like that's [ __ ] that's not real dude it is real and these guys are starting to make money now like the pro the top guys are starting to make like you know decent amount of money that

Looks like ESPN for sure like that looks like oh look I had kamaro there oh well doesn't kamaro have really [ __ ] up knees don't ruin his knees bro yeah yeah yeah I mean but he played pickle ball cuz he's down there in Miami his knees are so [ __ ] up yeah it's it's uh I hope that um if if stem cell technology advances if they you know the FDA finally allows people to have the same kind of stem cells in America that they do in Colombia and mexic Norway or Is it Sweden

where's like the where's like the other place that they do it I don't know if you want to get some bougie if you want the wh stem cells um I mean it's like Norway that they're harvesting them well the places that I know of are the big one is the CPI and Tijana that's one of the best in the world okay and that place is uh they have a partnership with the UFC they send a a lot of the athletes to and there's another place in Colombia bio Accelerator there's an island in the Caribbean that

they do it too that they like bring a they bring the they like fly in the medical office essentially for the week or two we periods oh okay yeah and then they have like stem cells that have been harvested in someplace and my neighbor my neighbor did that so I forget which island it is but well there's Panama too Neil re Reen Dr Neil Reen who's really he's written so many books and papers on the I've done a Shitload of them yeah and and what is the like immediate impact oh it it heals soft tissue

way better than anything else that I've ever used before so like what for example what injury did you have that you felt the biggest one I've talked about it before I apologize if you heard this before people I had a rotator cuff tear a full length rotator cuff tear and went to a doctor went to uh the UFC's doctor um they sent me to orthopedic surgeon he looks at my MRI You can't believe I can do anything he says I can't believe you can do anything with this shoulder like this is you have a full

length Ro rotator cuff tear but he does all the stuff with me like push down push up and he goes like you're pretty functional he and uh he goes I think it's probably because you have a lot of muscle around the joint but he goes but you're going to need surgery he goes you could try to rehab it but you're going to need surgery I go really Going to need surgery he goes yeah I go if am I ruining my shoulder by not having surgery he's like potentially he's like you know try your best rehab

put it off as much as you want but you're going to need surgery so then I go to Dr Rody McGee in Vegas and this was years ago he's doing stem cells with UFC athletes he's bunch of different people he's like well we could try it and I think the stem cells I got them actually aren't even available anymore Because they were too good um so they inject it in my shoulder and then after a couple weeks it feels pretty [ __ ] good and then I rehab it I'm doing like bands and all sorts

of different stuff I get it to the point where it starts feeling good I start light like light kettle bells feeling pretty good I go back to him six months later he does an MRI he says this is the most astounding thing I've ever seen in all my years of being an orthopedic surgeon he goes the Tear is gone like you this Ro this fulllength rotator cuff tear that was going to need surgery doesn't exist anymore like when I say like my shoulder is better I mean it doesn't bother me at all like at all

I do everything I hit the bag I I uh do kettle bells with 70 lbs I do swings and curls and cleans and presses zero pain not a not a not a one thing like man maybe I shouldn't be doing this it like feels 100% normal yeah and all stem Cells like I should I could have got CAU with a sling and then you're done didn't do any of that there's a I have a shoulder a little bit of a shoulder issue actually I'm curious if the stem cells 100% I'll bring you to way to

well that's in Austin listen man they've they've healed so many people that I'm friends with so many like like minimal scapular movement I think that was the issue so I was making up for the fact that my scapula doesn't move that much With just stretching out the muscles around it does that make sense so like you I guess that the scapula is this bone here the scapula is that the one that kind of like hangs off yeah and like that's supposed to move up with your arm when you extend it and it was staying there

but I was still moving my arm so I'm stretching all I guess the muscles or tendons or whatever what did happen to your scapula that made it freeze like that I don't know like some I was told that I might have like a small tear in the rotator cuff like do you hang do you ever hang from your hands I mean I would do I do like pull-ups as part of like a my you know exercise routine when I'm doing any PS are great exercise but hanging is great for shoulder health so what I do

every day uh for at least a minute um usually more I usually do like a couple of sets of hangs before I do anything but I'll do my warm-ups with like push-ups and Body weight squats and then what I do is I chalk up my hands and I grab a hold of the bar and I just hang and I just try and I feel my back popping like it decompresses your back because your spine like the weight of your hips and your legs is pulling on your spine for the first time normally life is pushing

down on you Gravity the weight of your body is pushing down wow now you're using gravity to pull it all out yes so I do that I hang that way and then I Also do that Dex we have a a machine out there Teeter the company that makes those things where you hang by your ankles yeah I've seen it they have a a great one where you it's called the decks I like it better than the ankle one where you you hinge at the hips and you fall forward and then you just it's basically like

your lower body and your hips are carrying um like locking your weight in place and you're leaning forward so the full weight of your upper Body is decompressing your back and I'll feel it going like pop pop pop I'll feel like little Pops in my back and I stretch it and I move on that thing and it's all just about keeping the the spine pliable and keeping the range of motion in your spine but also in your shoulder joints it's one of the best things for shoulder joints is to just hang and I'll hang with

one arm sometimes I'll hang with both arms but I'm just like letting it all stretch out So it stretches all your your the mobility of your shoulders and creates space in there allows everything to move Freer and then I'll do my chinups so I do my sets of chinups that's your stretch essentially yes okay maybe I have to add that in yeah I also stretch on a bar where I grab the bar and I turn like this and I get it like that and I get like a deep stretch that way and I get a

deep stretch the other way and I'll do that on my back on the ground You should also do these things called it's called crossover symmetry um is these bands and they have varying uh resistance like different colors or different strength of resistance you don't even need a lot of resistance the whole idea is just you're working the tendons and all the connective tissue and it's you're just doing all these like different shoulder exercises and so they they cross like one is attached to a post over here and the Other one's here so I'm doing these

and I'm doing these and I'm doing I'm pinning them against my arm and I'm doing it like that where I'm just working the rotator cup muscles and just just to keep everything you're creating the torque on the joint yeah whereas like when you're lifting weights you can kind of manipulate what part of your body is lifting you can and that's how you get inj yeah that's I got to do the cuz that's My biggest concern right now is I mean you know to bring it back to your friend is how do I play that's so

crazy like everything I do I like I do pt twice a week shout out my boy Mike helon he's [ __ ] great you do pt twice a week yeah it's like I'm lifting but I'm with a guy who is a PT so if there is an issue we can oh I see I see but he'll just take me through weightlifting if I'm feeling good and if I'm not then we're doing some work and have you been Able to increase the mobility of your SC dud my yes and my shoulder was [ __ ] before

and he brought it back him and him and this guy Kyle were like don't do surgery like they they were like once you do surgery you're [ __ ] and so let's try to work this thing out by building muscle around it getting Mobility into the joint and like they brought the shoulder back like this was before I ever play one thing real clear that's not always true um I know a lot Of people that have had successful shoulder surgery and in some cases that's the only thing you can do save yourself yeah there's like

Yuri prasa UFC for light heavyweight champion his shoulder was blown part they had to put it back together again they had to and Incredibly effective yeah damn that Jamal Hill fight un holy [ __ ] unbelievable holy [ __ ] so for uh a situation like that shoulder surgery was necessary his [ __ ] was torn apart yeah You can't just heal that with stem cells but there are things you can heal with stem cells and it it definitely helps soft tissue injuries in a way like nothing else I've ever used yeah yeah it's it's

it's legit and brigam buer who's the CEO of waste to well he's worked so hard on educ he's been on this podcast a bunch of times and Tucker's podcast a bunch of podcasts just talking about all these different methods that are available that are being stifled by The FDA and that's the thing is like once you get something that you're addicted to longevity e exercise or regiments or whatever it is are very easy to Doh because you're not really doing them so you can live to 100 you're like how do I play this thing next

week right and all the motivation comes from it really simple like I actually can't wait to go do the PT whatever it is because I'm like okay I have a game Wednesday and I want to be good to play It sounds ridiculous I'm 41 I'm not going pro at this thing but I love it so much that I would literally I'm looking up the [ __ ] bpc 157 I'm like do I need the yeah the Wolverine [ __ ] that they say right and it's like do I get that so I can recover faster

yeah get that is it have you tried that it's legit super legit I recommend it to a buddy with no research I was like you should do this and then a couple weeks later he's like I'm on it and I was like Did you look up I'm not a doctor or anything look into this thing but uh but he said he did it for his uh he he got an ACL surgery MH and his doctor he asked about it and his doctor goes I take it well that's a good doctor because I've had friends where

I tell them about their doctors say oh you shouldn't do that there's no studies a CH that's the thing I feel like there's like Old Guard guys that are a little bit hesitant to use some of the maybe Newer technology and I'm sure they have their Reasons I'm not I don't know more than them about the science but are these new technologies that can maybe extend our playing age again I don't need to be a pro but I love this thing and I want to do it as much as I can I want to get

as good as I possibly can yeah it feels good to be getting better at something at this age well let me tell you something there's a reason why usada uh didn't let people use it in the UFC and now drug-free sport also doesn't let people use it in the UFC it's because it works it's wait a minute why would they not wouldn't wouldn't it be advantageous for the athletes recover exactly it's really stupid but the idea is that it's performance enhancing because it it lets you heal quicker so heal from injuries quicker potentially heal from

recovering from training quicker and and what would their argument I mean the only argument I've Heard is like it increases well the idea is like keep everybody on a completely Level Playing Field how do you do that no one's able to take anything you can't take any performance-enhancing sub accessible to all athletes well I think that's the right way to do it but the problem is that okay what peptides are we talking about what about things like HCG which radically increase testosterone production are you allowed to do that okay because if you're Allowed to do

that like what level is that steroids only recovery I think any recovery drug like obviously there's risk to all this like you increase cell growth and if you have cancer God forbidden in your body those cells are going to grow as well right there's an argument for that but I think the real argument is like what's causing cancer right the re the real argument is like eliminating environmental toxins and the issues also there's people that have Genetic predisposition I to cancer unfortunately but the the real reality about cancer is unfortunately like what you take into

your body has a significant effect your diet has a significant effect exercise has a significant effect and also do you participate in any recovery activities like sauna which is huge they did a study out of Finland again I apologize if you've heard this before uh it was uh 20year study they found people who use Sauna for 4 days a week had a 40% decrease in all cause mortality all cause meaning heart attack stroke cancer you name it yeah 40% decrease just because of the effects of sauna how do they how do they test that like

where's the uh what is the what is the term the something group like the group that well this is what they did they did this study randomized control trial right so they they did this study where they took these people and sauna use in Finland is Everywhere everybody uses a sauna and so they did it based on uh these questionnaires do you do the sauna once a week do you sauna twice a week what temperature do you do the sauna and how long do you do it for and they determined that the people that did

the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at 175 degrees had a 40% decrease in all cause mortality now when you drop the number of sessions you also drop the the all cause mortality survival got it so Like it's like 20% at once a week you know 30% so it's like that like measurable differences in the amount of people that were healthy and robust who do it four times a week yeah I mean that's interesting because the easiest way to discredit would be like well yeah the people that do saunas want to increase their

life but what you're saying is there's an increased amount of assistance if you do it more right the benefits are legitimate real measurable It's her stress there's it's heat shock proteins your body produces to deal with the fact that you're you're essentially dying like you can't stay like I do it at 196 you can't stay there very long I do 25 minutes at 196 have you ever passed out in it no okay is that a thing people do like I don't pass out get out the smelling salts I stay awake um no you could though

yeah I mean if you the type of person who passes out if you've got issues yeah yeah I I think Some people pass out just from stress yeah I watched a kid uh blackout the other night one of these school things that my kid had to go to really some boy fainted on stage wow yeah sometimes people just sometimes they just your your brain goes too much check please i' I've seen like I not passed out but like uh I was having like breathing issues I didn't understand what the [ __ ] it was and

like uh my wife and I were trying to get pregnant it was like Really difficult cuz my sperm sucks and and I would I would have like um I guess it was stress related I didn't know what the [ __ ] it was like I went to a doctor and I was like I feel like I can't catch my breath and I started doing these like a it's like a Navy SE breathing technique or whatever breathing box breathing yeah and I would try to do that I mean it was so weird it wouldn't affect me

on stage because once I'm on stage I'm like locked into the Performance and that's how I knew it was all Psy psychological but like when I was offstage there were times where I'd be at the cellar and I have to leave the cellar and there's this little Park on Sixth Avenue that's like not even really a park but there's like benches and I would just sit there and I would just [ __ ] box Breathe by myself trying to get a full breath and I go to this doctor and I was like what the [

__ ] is it and it it was a stress induced uh Exfix or something like that wow and I was just so like what was so stressful to you at that moment I could we couldn't get pregnant like I found out my SP so was that okay yeah yeah and like not where HCG comes in actually cuz that's one of those peptides that actually increases your sperm production yeah well my I my sperm wasn't swimming that was the issue got to get those [ __ ] in the pool Gold that helps too that's supposed to

be good for your nuts bro I I hit up worst apparently well that's they said heat and cold I like hit up hberman I was like yo what should I do and he's like all right take these pills and then the doctors even tell me they're like um they're like take these pills and then also uh you got lazy jizz bro dud I got the laziest [ __ ] jiz bro it's no you just wait for it I I got take the pills they're like don't drink I'm like okay I'm not going to drink they're

don't smoke okay I'm not going to smoke they go uh wear baggy underwear and they're like ice your balls once a day holla so I do that for a month I go get or two months I go get my sperm tested again it got worse really yeah and they're like we haven't even [ __ ] seen this and um and yeah so like we had to we do IVF and everything that's what the special is about like it's just the story of us trying to try there was a study uh I Think it was out

of Japan and what they were doing was they're getting people to cold plunge before exercise so you cold plunge for three minutes and then you exercise and you force your body to heat up while you're working out massive increase in testosterone to the point where this one guy he had um he got his uh prostate levels checked and his doctor was like this is this is concerning yeah like uh we want to do this we want to do that we want to put You on this and put you on that and the guy says you

know there's this this is an article that's available online this one guy tried this he goes okay well let me find out what's available online so he he finds out po Cal plunging does it yeah and then so here this is the thing Japanese Cal plunge study often referenced discussed about C immersing the wrist in cold water before exercise significantly increased testosterone levels in young Japanese men compared to Immersing it after exercise which suppress testosterone levels highlighting the importance of timing when using cold stimulation for potential hormonal benefit so um what this guy did was

he he plunged not just the wrist and then um went to the doctor months later and the doctor thought he was on hormones the doctor's like you have 1,00 testosterone this is crazy like what's going on and he tells them I've been cold plunging Before I lift weights and the doctor's like well keep [ __ ] doing that that yeah and so I know a lot I do that now really yeah I know a lot of people that do that now they this is how they start their workout my workout starts with a cold Plunge

so my issue wasn't even the tea they were like yeah your tea levels are good it's just the swimmers it was the swimmers and then they were like shaped weird like I mean it's just like bro yeah it was bro no dude it was I Mean it was too funny I I told the guy I mean this is I I don't even do this into special or anything but like I I they were like the their the shape is a little off or whatever and I was you're so defensive I go well maybe when they

hit the cup so hard yeah so like I'm still trying to like I got an ego about it I'm like bro you should have seen the way they [ __ ] it's a car crash over here it's it's coming in at 400 PSI but it was it was crazy once once we got Pregnant it went away and it was like immediately went away wow I could breathe again and it wasn't this feeling like I couldn't breathe it was about catching a full breath you know when you're like running and at the end of your you're

doing like a hard cardio intensive exercise this idea like you can't get to 100% in your lungs yeah and I never had experienced in my life life like I can I can work pretty hard like I I feel like maybe that's a competitive Advantage of mine like I might not be the most skilled in certain things but like I can I can go I I have a good motor I can [ __ ] push it and it was the first time in my life where like a psychological issue affected my body physically I didn't even

know that that was possible and uh I know that that's happened to a lot of people I know that got cancelled people that got canceled where they were just overwhelmed where They didn't couldn't breathe and they didn't think that they could make it they were like I can't do this I oh cuz they were going through that yeah they were going through it like in the heart of it and they're like you got to call up check up on them and make sure they're okay I remember Tony when I I remember the fork in the

road I remember the the curve I was driving on when I was talking on the phone to Tony when he was going through his first one yeah and Um he's like I just this is not good man I'm not doing good and I'm like [ __ ] man and there was like that was the moment where I was like like please don't kill yourself oh wow like you're going to get better you're going to be fine do not I I didn't say that that's what you're thinking that's what I was thinking I remember being in

my car going ooh like hearing him on the phone we were on speaker phone I was like [ __ ] man well yeah you dedicate your entire life to One thing and but it's also it's just like feeling like it's over everything's over your career is over your life is over as you know one stupid thing and now it's over forever and just the you can't breathe you can't breathe and you know Tony's tough he he's resilient he he got through it pretty quick and he was back and then you know a couple weeks later

he was laughing about it yeah but some people it you know they get wrecked and they're not the same Ever again I think that does happen to people and then there's a different version of them afterwards because they don't want to experience that again it is it is weird like I'm not as affected by that kind of stuff now maybe I haven't gone through on that level but and I also think there's something about having a kid like I just care less about the like I care very very few people I care what they think

about me it's like really liberating in a lot of ways you Know right but um but yeah there was something about like like are we not going to be able to get pregnant and then like feeling you feel horrible I also you start like going why would God not want me to have a kid like did I do something bad like you start thinking like if there's some sort of karmic reason for that [ __ ] also before I knew it was me I don't want to share it with anybody it's really isolating cuz I

thought it was my Wife like everybody always thinks it's the woman who's got a [ __ ] problem with their eggs or whatever and that's such a [ __ ] ass dude thing no that's what we think cuz we don't know it could be us when did you ever like every time I looked at my SP couldn't be me look at look at the amount of [ __ ] jiz I'm producing yeah I'm killing it right like literally so and then and then you think about it and I will say this though like like finding

Out that it was me and being able to I felt more comfortable talking about on stage AG because now I'm not talking about this incredibly embarrassing thing to this woman who does not want to be in entertainment at all like the most private person about me I was like oh I can talk about this a little bit and being able to talk about on stage and I would talk about on stage and like there would be these dudes that would come up to me after shows and they wouldn't Admit they were going through it but

they'd be like yo that was really funny bro like yeah you should keep talking about that [ __ ] and then I I would like talk about on tour and I get these [ __ ] DMS and like all these people would start telling me that they're going through IVF and like even close friends start to be like yo actually that's how we got pregnant and I didn't realize it was this this like almost like last taboo thing where there's this Incredible isolation at because you don't want to feel the Judgment there's all this pressure

to obviously have a family you don't want to feel like you're the person that's like stopping that but I didn't realize and I'm 40 so a lot of older people are probably going through this maybe young people are not but like everybody in my immediate circle going through this [ __ ] let me ask you this like first of all when did IVF Become available to people and how many people a year do you think use IVF and if they didn't how many less people would there be on earth brother brother brother this is like

there were three things when I talked to Trump that I wanted to ask him about specifically and one of them was securing IVF because I know a lot of people who are against abortion also look at IVF and like okay you're throwing out embryos you're you know killing people or potential people And they want to use the anti-abortion argument to get rid of IVF and really is that a thing yeah of course it's happening now and what Trump said on pod who's trying to ban that um I guess we could look that up I think

that it was in uh there's a few states that was happening in that seems insane yeah why would you not want more people well they look at it as killing people because Life Starts a conception and the embryos is essentially conception which Like I understand your logic I I don't I don't disagree with the logic behind that but but at the same time that is the way that the only way some people can get pregnant and I will give it is Senate Republicans block IVF bill as Democrats Elevate issue ahead of November election but what

I'll say is Trump said that they're going to back it with the full power of the Republican party and that anybody that goes against it that they would Campaign against and then he even signed that executive order to expand it he wants to expand access to it oh that's great which is [ __ ] yeah it's incredible well for people that want to be parents man I know quite a people few people like yourself they want to be parents so bad and that gave them the ability and now they're so happy and it's the most

incredible thing in the world yeah and if they don't do that guess what there's no babies it's not Like it's like more life will occur if you have if you allow this also we got to deal with the downstream like I'm sure some of this [ __ ] is probably it might me it just might be genetic I don't [ __ ] know but maybe it's microplastics all in my balls maybe it's my phone like there's a lot of things that are not in our control that are negatively impacting us and then to restrict our

ability to have a family I feel like it's kind of unfair you like Bestowed this thing upon me that has affected our ability or some woman's ability I wonder if it's like more prevalent the issue or the necessity of it with people that live in cities oh dude every time a car breaks yeah the amount of microplastics that go into the world are way more than using like a plastic bottle to drink out of yeah break dust yeah yeah it's particulate absolutely that's the [ __ ] that you wipe off your wheels when you clean

your car Stuff in the end you never wash your car Noe Jesus Christ yeah I mean I didn't have a car until like a year ago what do you got now got anything good no nothing well I got a fun one I got a really I got a Suzuki Samurai oo it's the coolest [ __ ] car on the planet those are fun they're so cool it was yeah it was sick that's a good car to park in the city too you don't give a [ __ ] what happens to that thing well I got

it out in the Hamptons but yeah what year is it it's Uh 87 that's such a piece of [ __ ] oh it's a piece of [ __ ] but it is like it's also just so fun like I don't I'm not trying to compete with you on like having like a fancy car or whatever like that I just love how [ __ ] rug I don't care I got to turn you on to some [ __ ] F you you know the good [ __ ] like yeah you got to learn you got to

learn the appreciation of cars I got my yeah there it is I there the boys look at that look At the boys that thing's fun oh yeah look a cute little car is it adorable I wouldn't take that thing around the block but wait you're saying you wouldn't get in that car with with six with six guys yeah I'd go with you guys shouldn't that be on the cover of every gay magazine it should be I be like if you take this pill this is what you'll have you'll have fun with your on the beach

with a Suzuki Samurai it's so much fun and they're reliable as [ __ ] that's the thing about them every Japanese car is reliable they're the best the thing about Japanese culture is that like it's refinement culture so like I feel like there any I there's this Japanese DJ I saw his name is a yosui Yuki Matsu okay he had like brain cancer and then like he thought he was going to die so he was like [ __ ] I'm going to be a DJ with the time I got left and went into remission but

he basically quit his construction job he Just did this Boiler Room set and it is just like like I could be like putting this energy on it cuz I want to believe it or whatever but the intensity of it is this is my shot and I'm going to be unrelenting right and the second I saw that he's Japanese maybe this is my like this is the guy look at him go but can you like can you IM look at this [ __ ] the a Japanese person being a DJ before I even listen to the

set I was like oh this is going to be the best Set I've ever heard because they would never put themselves out there be and do it half ass like every 30-year-old model in America is like I'll be a DJ now but in Japan the culture is so like don't bring shame upon your family don't bring attention to yourself unless you are the greatest do you know the term Kaizen do you know what that means no what is that Kaizen is uh a Japanese term for taking a thing and continuing to refine it until it

reaches Perfection yeah yeah so Japanese first of all like supercars were always Italian it was always you know German Porsche Ferrari that kind of [ __ ] and then uh Nissan created a car that destroyed everybody what was it the GTR mhm so the Nissan GTR they've essentially been making the same exact car just refining it for like 20 years I have a 2024 Nissan GTR Nismo which is their race package one which is the most refined version of the GTR they've ever And it's a [ __ ] Marvel of engineering and refinement that [

__ ] car is magical it's just glued to the road you ever seen one you know show me pull up a black Nissan 2024 GTR Nismo they can't put out [ __ ] it's shameful to put out [ __ ] right and I feel like they they're almost like done refining their culture and now they're tapping into other things like that's what it looks like oh wow yeah it looks Like what's the that's not that's a that's a Nismo 300 that's mine looks my car what is that Nissan Z was it z300 or something like

that um this came out when I was College yeah 340z there's a bunch of those but that's the that's the GTR yeah that thing it's just it's just it's just a you're on a ride you're riding a ride everywhere wors and clinks and clunks and yeah yeah it's so fun that's a different One that's a 300 z a 370Z that's pretty sick too though that looks good but there's like a whole culture of taking these things like there's guys that make these things they Jack them up to 2,000 horsepower and they spit fire out of

the back of them but they do it with pizza like the best pizza I've ever had and I'm from New York city is in Tokyo really the best pizza you've ever ever had is in Tokyo I forget the name of the place wow but it Uh my wife and I were in Tokyo and uh but it's it was the best stake I've ever had is in Tokyo really and it it's something about like doing something half ass I think is shameful and there's this great honor in like this refinement process now there is a social

cost to that there's a rigidity meaning like it's very here's a perfect example like the oldest hotel in the world I think is this hotel in Japan it's like starting in 703 year 7003 whoa and oh I've seen That yeah and it's been owned by the same family for 52 Generations right which is like an unbelievable feat when you think about like American families or British families that like have gotten rich and then three generations they've squandered it all like really successful families it's all been destroyed and there is this thing in I think Japanese

culture which is like there's this great honor in taking on the tradition of your family the cost of That is there was probably a comedian or a chef or somebody that in that line that didn't do the thing that they really were passionate about to honor their family but the societal benefit is probably the majority of people don't have those dreams and having purpose in this job is probably better for them and I think there's a middle ground where you can still go dream and do these things but also we have some respect for being

a cobbler when your dad was a Cobbler and his dad was a cobbler I feel like we've lost that a little bit in like American Dream culture where it's like if you don't go out and achieve your craziest dream well some people don't have that dream but taking over their dad's business is something that they can feel good about in honor instead of like oh yeah so I just took over the family business well doing a good job at anything there's a lot of value in that for everybody if you love Making shoes and you

become a cobbler and you make awesome shoes and you got like Andrew shows up bro those shoes are sick I love them I want another pair but could you make them in crocodile oh let's go it's exciting like making things and having relationships with the people you sell them to that's super rewarding we we do chase that big dream over in America and make it seem like everybody has to have it but the dream of making cabinets that are awesome is a Pretty [ __ ] cool dream yeah the dream of being a painter is

a pretty cool dream like there's there's a lot of dreams that don't get the value added to them because of Fame like we we we have this weird thing about Fame above all in this country Fame above all like moms being a mom isn't really valued like oh yeah it's a real I think it's a real problem I I think that uh and it's not all places like I'm sure there are places That are more like family oriented where like like being a mom is an honored respected thing a lot out here man I love

that yeah like I'm in New York it's not that right nor is it in LA in La a lot of the moms have jobs too they have careers they don't want to abandon their career they might shame those moms that decide to stay home and take care of their kids when yeah I don't think that that's it would be great if there was less rigidity and there was a lot of Honor in that and it was something we really respected because I know in New York even my wife like my wife is like you know

she got her [ __ ] MBA she was working for apple and AI projects and then she goes I that's my dream to be a mom and I feel societal scrutiny about it but I don't [ __ ] care because I want to be a mom you know who really gets the scrutiny stay- atome dad's that [ __ ] is [Laughter] Gay you try to lip pill me Joe what the [ __ ] I want to see where you would go with it I fed you one of them little racket ball balls yeah the paddle

paddle paddle paddle ball yeah I've P you one of those half filed tennis balls and you [ __ ] shoved it down my [Laughter] throat but yeah I don't that is the weird thing it's like I know as well as a male you feel a real strong pull to be A provider we do feels very important and it really like as you become a father and you raise children it like really gets instilled on you like I always had a really good work ethic but becoming a father maybe have a much stronger work ethic like

there's no I if I was a single man with no responsibilities who knows if I would work as hard who knows if I would take days off I would [ __ ] off I if my friends are like hey you know let's go Bow hunting in Argentina like yeah I'll take the day off [ __ ] it the biggest lie about having kids is that you won't be able to provide for them I think a lot of people go oh I just need to get my life ready to do it's like no no no no

that's going to put a batter in your back like you wouldn't [ __ ] believe hopefully it's very sad when it doesn't I've met men people shouldn't have kids yeah I've met men where they they just they keep doing the same thing even After they have children and you're like oh my god dude you can't do this you're they want to have them who knows you know who knows what if people want or if they think they want and then they have and then they don't change you know Louis CK said something really cool once

to me he's like when you have children he's like you just got to let it change you just let it change you yeah yeah don't hold on to who you think you are and what you think your identity is just Let it let it transform you adjust cuz everybody adjusts the mom adjust you now it's not your girlfriend anymore it's not your wife anymore now it's a mother she has a child she made a human being in her body and it's very vulnerable and she loves it more than anything in this world anything and it's

this crazy experience that if you don't have and you're on the outside you look at as like oh all that responsibility oh [ __ ] that oh you're tied down oh you got kids Now but it's uh it's another level of understanding what life really is because it's this constant cycle of new people entering into the world and eventually you will leave this world Y and hopefully you will leave this world better because you were here amen yeah that's true yeah it's the it's the coolest thing that's ever happened to me and absolutely has transformed

me I was super excited when you were become a dad man cuz I knew you you all in on Everything you do you know so you'd be all in I'm being a dad too which is so important it's just so important like it's so weird you're making a life a human being comes into this world that didn't exist before you and your wife had sex and now there's a human being that's talking to you and you're teaching them stuff they learn things you get to see them laugh and giggle and you get to see him

open up Christmas presents and Screech at excitement oh my God it's it's all the happiness that you get from other things just doesn't compare in comparison yeah it's a different happiness it's a totally different happiness it's a and it's also it's like an understanding of life itself I I have talked about this before but I changed the way I think about people you told me this I think about everybody has a baby now everybody's a baby that became a 60-year-old man with big old wio no you know when they get Those big crazy [ __

] Gin Blossom faces like priests yep and you know I realized like oh this is just this is this entity at this stage of its Journey it used to be a baby they used to be someone's cute little baby boy with a little little bow tie on everybody thought it was so cute took a picture of him now here he is bad breath and farting big old pot belly hating life smoking Paul muls yeah he had a lot of Hope at one point that was a baby yeah And you know what what what is you

have a lot of Hope but like what is the impediment to you achieving a fulfilled life and so many people don't even know where to start or where to begin or what what to do or what what what which way to go yeah and if you're having been trusting your instincts in your life and you haven't been taking chances then all of a sudden you have to take one at like 35 yeah it's hard man it's hard yeah that's a muscle you build like endurance You know you build the muscle of being able to take

chances and and do difficult things you you build that like all other muscles all other strengths and virtues that you have it's reinforced with use yeah every risk you take that is successful you get a little bit more confidence in taking those risks also you understand what's required to make this Venture successful you have to do look at it correctly you can't be delusional you have to be Objective and you have to do what actually needs to be done yeah and some people don't like that responsibility the responsibility of yeah and so they sabotage themselves

they sabotage their life because it's easier to fail cuz you're used to it yeah so you fall right back into it I'll pick myself back up again but right now I'm on the heroin again for a little bit yeah that is the cool thing about well yeah I mean failure is not an Option once you have a kid no you have to figure it out yeah you have to figure it out also you want the world to be a safer place because you have very vulnerable little people yeah you relate it's uh you you just

become like a real human being it's it's interesting when I hear people that don't have kids kind of complain about the world and I'm like oh you actually don't really understand how high the stakes get right like it the way that I relate to every bit of Stimulus has completely changed it's heightened and reduced the little frivolous [ __ ] I do not give a flying [ __ ] about yeah like I really don't care and then the big ticket things I care deeply about you know how could they impact my kid like it's very

easy for people to even with like the vaccine [ __ ] it's very easy people who don't have kids to tell you like oh just trust the doctors whatever the second you have a Kid it is probably the most terrifying thing you'll ever do in your entire life is injecting something into the most perfect thing you've ever created and then every single day wondering and seeing if she's still smiling and seeing if she's still okay like and feeling responsible if anything negative happens and then if you don't do it feeling responsible if she got [

__ ] and the measles or Ms or whatever the [ __ ] it is it I have so much more Empathy and it's something that people just can't understand because they're not put in that position and every new parent that I talk to is concerned about this [ __ ] every single one so it's like you have to have a little empathy like you've created the most perfect thing you've ever could ever imagine like nothing comes as close to that and every decision you make could greatly impact that person's life so yeah we're going to

be scared if we watch a [ __ ] video On on the internet that says this thing is bad for them and don't call us some [ __ ] quacks just call us like parents who care for our [ __ ] kids well the reason the what there's a lot of people that want to cover up for their own actions like what they've done or the the the people that want to say like all this is exaggerated there are no vaccine injuries this could have happened to my child it probably was it was going to

happen anyway it was going To happen anyway and you want to really believe that too of course you do because you don't want to feel like it's your responsibility also you don't want to believe that pharmaceutical drug companies are willing to sell you things that are going to harm your child and they are they are they always have been they always will be they're publicly traded companies have a responsibility to their shareholders to make as much money as possible and the money people Are going to push a bunch of [ __ ] through that probably

shouldn't go through and they'll tell you you needed like like when they were vaccinating kids with covid there is no reason to do that they knew there was no reason to do that but they wanted everybody to take it because that's where the money is and that's a scary thought that we live in a world that there's people out there that would literally sacrifice the health of children for profit But ultimately That's that's what they do that's I mean that's a thing that's been done it will continue to be done unless something happens who are

the people that do that why are they not named look at the Sackler family look at those people so it's like we know one name we know the sackers and we don't even know their first name well you might but like the average person doesn't like I think that it'd be a lot different if these people's names were public record it Would be a lot different if they went to jail that's the thing they just get fined they'll get mioni yeah that would happen right that would happen immediately they going to get the they get

that Luigi treatment immediately it it will be that way people don't [ __ ] around with their kids man it's a different Luigi was wearing loafers with his ankle handcuffs and uh he was like in a in a trial and he he looks so beautiful he's a handsome guy my wife And my daughters like he's adorable like look at him here he's so beautiful he's so handsome super model yeah I think he did porn or maybe that was just a headline that I saw but whatever but it's is it crazy though that the Assassin is

a good-look guy and becomes a hero like if he was an ugly fat guy with a Maga hat on everybody would want him dead look at him look at him wow look at those brows beautiful well he's wearing a bulletproof vest too isn't That wild yeah but he's got like a mental health problem yeah apparently and someone said that he took acid and cracked yeah I I heard that but who knows how much of that well we'll find out when the trial happens what what the lore is but you know a broken clock is right

two times a day though it was real weird when people were like yeah more of that please to me that's just desperation and you get to see it manifested it's like if you're Like a really really really really really rich person with power you want to make sure the poorest people have enough to survive the second they don't feel like they have hope and they don't feel like they have enough to survive they start storming your estate well especially when it talk when you talk about health care because there's people whose job is to deny

people Healthcare that deserve it that's because that's how they save money which Is that's crazy to think of but that's I mean what is the alternative socialized medicine the problem with that is it doesn't incentivize doctors to be the best I want my doctor to drive a [ __ ] Porsche I want my doctor to have a 911 turbo and a nice watch it's no you're right cuz you want the smartest people to be the doctors you don't want them running hedphones like there's a lot of probably smart people running hedge funds I don't want

Them doing that [ __ ] like I want them fixing diseases you know I and if there's not enough money in it yeah they're going to go to the Head hedge fund [ __ ] which is meaningless yeah so it's like I it is a tricky problem how do you create a you know a system that incentivizes the most brilliant people to be in positions where they help us all but how do you make sure that the nefarious actors are not finding ways to squeeze probably the most vulnerable how Do we eliminate nefarious actors from

the world or do we ever you can't they're there and they will pop into these positions and I think they're there also to help you appreciate non- nefarious people yeah like we wouldn't know good right unless there is bad yeah that's real that's a good perspective to have on bad that's a that's the good and evil struggle forever that's the yin and the Yang that's it all it's like that's how the world moves forward that's how It advances it protects itself against evil then evil tries to find ways through the [ __ ] cracks and

you develop better antivirus software it's a simulation a little bit man it might be it's going to be so maybe it already is and maybe it always was maybe it always was and if it's a simulation once it can be a simulation twice so if we can create the simulation and we were created as a simulation that means that we could be like the 20th Version of it and we're probably about to create a way better one with AI that's probably what AI is AI is probably the god of the simulation we probably lock that

[ __ ] in turn it on then it figures out how to do everything do you have any concern about AI oh yeah yeah yeah Elon says there's a 20% chance everything goes sideways but an 80% chance it's an overall net good for Humanity but 20% chance like we're [ __ ] that's a high number that's not a Good number I don't like that if I'm playing rushing roulette I got 10 Chambers and I spin that [ __ ] I don't like there's two bullets in there yeah I don't like that that makes me nervous

but uh I also think you've got a lot of like really good smart people trying to make sure that at the very least the people here invented before the people in China which I think is probably important like whoever whoever launches the God first is going to be in charge Of a lot of stuff yeah it's gonna get [ __ ] very strange Andrew Schultz it's already very strange it's going to get even stranger we'll be here to enjoy it yes sir we'll be make fun of it my brother it's always a good time to

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