the question you're asking. You answer it. Give me another reason.
If you're not an anti-semite, give me another reason why the obsession is Israel. I I am in no sense obsessed with Israel. We are on the brink of war with Iran.
And so these are valid questions. If I can finish, you asked me why I'm obsessed with Israel. 3 minutes after telling me that when you first ran for Congress, you elucidated one of your main goals, which is to defend Israel.
And I'm the one who's obsessed with Israel. I don't see a lawmaker's job as defending the interest of a foreign government. Period.
Any government, including the ones that my ancestors come from. So that's my position. That does not make me an anti-semite.
And shame on you for suggesting otherwise. And I mean that. And that's low.
And you know it's low. So why don't you just answer my questions, straightforward, rational way. You certainly have the IQ to do it.
Shame on you is is cute. By the way, Tucker, it is. It's not cute.
I'm offended. You're obsessed with the Jews. You just told me a sleazy feline.
It is sleazy to imply that I'm an anti-semite for asking questions about how my government is. You want to count how many questions you asked about what about the Jews? What about Israel?
What about you never asked about the Jews? I I have This has nothing to do with the Jews, whatever that means. This has to do with a foreign government.
And once again, shame on you for conflating the two now because decisions need to be made. We can talk about those decisions and I plan to but I just want to get a sense of whether you think having described yourself as an America first person whose only criterion for judgment on foreign policy is America's national interest to what extent you're influenced by a foreign government which gives you a lot of money through its lobby and you're claiming this has nothing to do with the foreign government. They're not coordinating.
Yes, you're spying on us but it doesn't bother you. And I'm sort of wondering like what is this? This is the one of the weirdest conversations I've ever had.
I'll tell you. Why aren't you more panicked that thousands of people thousands by their own admission the admission of the of the British government arrested every year for saying words not threats words I am I've expressed so why doesn't someone try to overthrow the government I don't understand how can they treat you like slaves they carry on down that road well they are carrying it out it's thousands a year and it's getting more and they will be voted out of office yes that's how is that what Winston Churchill would say I think Winston Churchill said even if a strong man tries to take Poland a country we've got nothing to do with not even close to We're going to risk the lives of our citizens to liberate Poland. Poland is closer to here than your home is to New York.
Yes, that's true. That's true. So, it's all relative.
So, if Well, it's a tiny little Lego Europe. I get it. If Maine got attacked, would you expect people in New York has nothing to do with Maine got attacked?
Would you expect people in New York to help you? It's the same country. Okay.
But you're actually kind of a big distinction. My country is quite large. We were part of Europe, the same continent.
We were not part of I call on that. In 1940, you were not part of Europe. You don't think?
Well, of course we're on. We're definitely not part of We're on the continent of Europe. You are not on the continent.
You're an island, dude. Off the continent, separated by a body of water. Do you know what it's called between you and France?
It's called the English Channel. You are not part of Europe. That is not true.
My ancestors lived here. You were not You were England part of Europe. France was considered exotic and crazy.
That's where the prostitutes and the cheese eaters lived. It's only the brainwashing of Tony Blair and all these technocrats since convinced you European. You're way better than European.
You're an ancient Germanic Celtic people who ruled the world. Do you remember that in your wooden ships? Anyway, but the point is the point.
No, I'm serious. Some crap sometimes. Anyways, come on.
With the mask from Maine, White Pines, but the point is your country went to war to preserve human rights in another country you had nothing to do with, but human rights are evaporating in your own country. And it's cool because you have soccer games with foreigners at them and good bara. And I'm just saying maybe something about the heroic British spirit has been diminished with time.
That's your dig at the United States is very revealing. Why is it revealing? Because your priorities are very clear.
No, no, no. Yes, they are. Yes, they are.
All right. And as an American, permit me a moment, okay, of outrage because I said many civilians have been killed. And you said right in the middle of your elaborate defense of the IDF's killing of civilians, including children, you said they do a better job than the United States does.
That's my country and my government. What flag am I wearing here? Well, I I'm asking why is it What flag am I wearing?
Well, that's of course my flag as well. And it's my flag. It's who I serve.
So why the dig at the United States in the middle? Not a dig at them. No, no, no, no.
You You've totally misrepresented. What did you mean by that? I did not take a dig at the US.
What I'm saying is So the IDF is more humane than the US. You talked a little bit about immigration and in the past you've talked about how uh white Australians, Americans, Europeans are being replaced by non-white immigrants in what is often referred to as the great replacement theory. This is the same.
Have I said that whites are being replaced? Well, I don't I don't think I said that. Well, it's been mentioned on your show 4,000 times.
And really, when did I say that? on your on your I said whites are being replaced. You have said that before.
Really? Yeah. I I I would challenge you to cite that because I I'm pretty sure I haven't said that.
I said native I said native born Americans have are being replaced including blacks. We we just met. But when our relationship starts with a lie, it makes it tough to be friends.
Same theory or as you say idea that has inspired the New York Buffalo shooting where 11 killed. It's also inspired. It's not.
First of all, it's inspired the worst the one of the worst Australian government in the media. I guess it doesn't pay well. Look, I I'm sorry.
I've lived among people like you for too long. And I I don't mean to I don't mean to call you call you stupid. Maybe you're just pretending to be, but I've never I'm totally against violence.
A sovereign person has the right to defend himself and his family. Period. And that said, I'm totally opposed to harming anyone.
anyone have you been calling are you concerned about the war in Ukraine? I think you and I agree we have both been critical of the Israeli government. I just want to kind of clarify terms a bit here.
Well, I've really been critical of the Israeli government. I've been plenty critical of the Israeli government. I told you at the beginning that we were against What do you think of Gaza?
What do I think of Gaza? Yeah. I think the war in Gaza to start with was a perfectly reasonable response in response to the horrors of October 7th.
I think now the places I mean I've been there. Have you been to Gaza? I've been to Gaza since since the war started.
They would not want catastrophic. Trust me, very few journalists get in. Yeah.
No, I I went with the IDF. It's the only way that you can go in. But nonetheless, you go in and you see a flattened place.
I think it is a disaster. A disaster for the future of Israel. Disaster for the Palestinian people.
A horror. 70,000 people dead. Why would you describe it first as a disaster for the future of Israel?
You got tens of thousands of civilians murdered, but it's foremost a disaster for the future of Israel. No, it's almost a disaster for the families of the dead kids. I made absolutely I made three points.
Everybody sucks up to Israel in this way that suggests they're afraid. And everyone is afraid. And you know that everyone's like the real problem is calling people anti-semmites allows real anti-semmites to flourish.
It's like no actually the real problem with calling people anti-semmites who aren't is accusing the innocent of a crime they didn't commit. And the real crime in Gaza is killing people who did nothing wrong. So those are the real problems I would say.
But no one can say it because you be like, "Oh no, but really October I don't know what you're talking about. We're having we're having a everyone watching this knows and I would use moral persuasion to try to effectuate if you topple. Okay.
So you topple the regime by whatever means. What happens then? How many people living around by the way?
I I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population. You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple?
How many people living around? 92 million. Okay.
Yeah. How could you not know that? I I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government. Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million? Why is that?
Because if you don't know anything about the country, I didn't say I don't know anything about Okay. What's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia.
Okay. No, it's not even you don't know anything about Iran. So, I'm not the the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
You're a senator who's calling the government. You're the one who doesn't know anything about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country.
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. You're the one that who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Solommani. And you said it was believe they're trying to murder Trump.
Yes, I do. Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe they're carrying out military strikes today, you said Israel was right with our help.
I said we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, this you're breaking news here because the US government last night denied the National Security Council spokesman, Alex Fefeifer, denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity. We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing them.
You just said we were. We are supporting. Thanks.
You're a senator. If you're saying the United States government is that we're with Iran right now, people are listening. Almost Thanks for your speech.
Of course, Carlson. Um, it's the media can be extremely negative. So, it's nice to hear uplifting comments about our country.
It's an amazing country. It is. And I think we forget that in Australia often times.
So I appreciate that you've preempted uh my question on Putin. Putin. Putin.
I think you I think you did strategically cuz you knew it's what we'd ask. Putin. He's so bad.
And I also appreciate that. Did he make you take the COVID shot? Take the what?
The COVID shot. No, he didn't. Sorry.
Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
The co the the co shot saved probably tens of millions. Oh yeah. Definitely definitely safe and effective.
This is why everyone loves the media. Probably hund times more lives than killing. It's like a time capsule.
It's like it's like you're like the last Japanese soldier in Okinawa. You think the war's still going. It's hilarious.
Sorry. I'm I'm sorry. I'm being poorish.
You see elaborate arguments on behalf of doing so or ignoring it. Oh, that always happens in war. Well, you're right.
one of the reasons I'm not that into wars. But when it does happen unavoidably, we have to say that's wrong. We have to say that.
We have to acknowledge that was wrong. And I'm sorry for the extent to which I participated in it. Forgive me because killing people who committed no crime is immoral.
It will always be immoral. And people who do it will be punished for it. And nations that endorse it will be punished for it.
That's a fact. And you are seeing now, you are seeing now a very intense effort to convince you otherwise. Oh, it's fine.
They deserved it. Really? Do their children deserve it?
If a man commits a crime, do we kill his kids? I don't care if it's in Minneapolis or Gaza City. No, we don't.
And if we do accidentally, we say, "I am so sorry that we murdered someone who did nothing wrong. " Because it is murder. And to see Christian pastors make excuses for that is one of the most and that's not a partisan question.
That is not a political question. That is the only question that matters. Do we have the right to murder people?
And the resounding answer that Christianity provides us is no. I don't get into What's your take on whether we should be sending money to Ukraine or not? Were you in favor of that?
Man, they need it. I mean, honestly, I don't have a good answer. You know, I can make an argument both ways.
And half my family is Ukrainian on my from my grandparents. And so, you know, personally, I think we should help. Um, but I don't have a study to answer for you.
Have you How much money have you sent to Ukraine? None. Oh, so what do you mean by we?
You're the one whose family's from Ukraine. Like, why don't you send them a billion dollars? Because I'm trying to fix healthcare.
Why don't you fix their healthcare? If you're like so deep, if you think we need to help, why don't you start? How about you first?
I noticed that's never like even an option for anybody. It's like we need to help. That's not what charity is.
Forcing other people to help is not charity. The good news is let's say you have one job and two people and you make the decision the deciding factor is the race of one of the people. One person is being hurt because he's the wrong race.
Why would why is that okay? Because he's gotten 350 maybe 400 years of benefit from the right. Do you know him?
Are you just gently holding? Do you know that? All you know about him is his race.
And yet you're saying that he's benefited, but you don't know anything about him other than his race. So you're saying that all people of a certain color have something in common, which is kind of the definition of racism, isn't it? No, that's also the definition of discrimination because all African-American people in the United States have something in common.
It's that they were discriminated against. someone you don't know anything about the guy they have something in common and that they were sent from Belgium yesterday. He has no connection to it.
But you think it's okay to deny him something because of his color. I think that the system itself in order to fix what is the one original sin of this system. We need more racism to fix.
I don't consider that racism at all. It's not racism. When you do it, it's not racism at all.
You shouldn't have NATO at all. That's preposterous. What's the point of NATO?
To keep peace. The Soviets are invading Western Europe. Oh, well, it's been 35 years since they did to keep peace.
How's that worked? To keep peace. We now have the bloodiest war in 80 years in the middle of Europe because of NATO.
So, how's this peacekeeping? Or you could argue, as many people do, that actually the reason is because Ukraine wasn't in NATO. Had it been, Putin wouldn't have invaded.
This is super. This is like an addiction. And I've been through addiction, so I'm not judging at all.
But it's like I feel really shitty. I've got to have a glass of vodka to feel better. Are you mocking my mental health?
I'm Yes. But I'm also saying that I've lived this so I know what it feels like. It's the thing that is killing you.
It's truly killing you. Whether it's NATO or vodka, you become convinced is saving you. So you wake up hung over and you're like, "Oh, I feel so bad.
Give me a screwdriver. " And you have a screwdriver you feel better. And you don't realize that you're starting the cycle again.
Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if it had been a member of NATO? No, he wouldn't have done because then America would oblige would never. Here's what I know for a fact.
Putin said this for 20 years. Ukraine cannot be a member of NATO. They will not accept that anymore that we would accept Chinese missiles in Tijana or you would accept Sri Lankan missiles in Glasgow.
You're just not NATO is a defensive organization. How is it defensive? Because it has never acted proactively aggressively.
Where were you when the Yugoslavia war was going on? They were bombing the out of Christians in Yugoslavia. Do you remember that?
That was pretty offensive. NATO has always operated in a defensive capacity. Really?
Yes. That's how they created Kosovo defensively. It was defensive.
Oh, it was the aggressor there. Well, you know, my my brother-in-law was literally there. Wait a minute.
Just a minute. What you're saying is insane. It's not insane.
They NATO has never actually acted unilaterally. Has never attacked anybody without being attacked. It's always been defensive.
What? Okay. Who in Yugoslavia attacked NATO?
Look, just note. Here's the point where you just submit defeat. Bow your head and be like, you know what?
I bow before superior knowledge. I totally got this wrong. I can't believe I had such a silly idea.
What Americans think and if the overwhelming majority are against it, in what sense does it matter? Cuz what I hear is it matters what they think, but it really doesn't matter what they think because No, you take it in. You certainly ingest that.
And then what do you do once you ingest it? Then you make sure that you have No, you just got to it goes out the other end obviously. No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't, Tucker. But you also have information that the average American may not have. They may not know what the threat is.
How many Americans know that Hezbollah is in 12 Western Hemisphere countries? How many Americans care? Well, I would hope they would all care.
How many Americans know? How many people from Iran from terrorist cells have come across Joe Biden's open border? How How many Americans?
Definitely care about that. Okay, you Why haven't they been rounded up? But they're trying, but you got all these blue state mayors and governors making it very difficult.
But thank god President Trump is trying to get it done. Look, I'm totally all for that completely. I guess what I'm saying is that most Americans over I've never met an American who thinks other than like the people who have ideological reasons to pretend they think it that the imminent threat to America is anything having to do with Iran.
The imminent threats to America include like bankruptcy from too much debt, your son owing on fentanyl, your neighborhood completely changing because unlike Israel, Americans don't have a right to their country. can just be completely changed by their legislature and new people can show up from foreign countries and not speak your language and there's nothing you can do about because you don't have a right cuz you're not BB. Can you feel the resentment cuz it's real?
I'm not against Israel. I'm against the total destruction. You hide that very well.
I'm mad at my lawmakers for not protecting my country with the care they've protected Israel. The comments you made at Charlie K's funeral, you know, received a big backlash well beyond, you know, just just I recounted the Christian gospel. And if you think the Christian gospel is anti-Semitic, I can't help you.
It's not. I mean, but by the way, the person who wrote the words that I read was Jewish. Um, the every character in almost every character in the entire New Testament is Jewish.
I I think that racism in all its forms is evil and anti-Christian, including anti-semitism, because blood guilt is not a Christian concept. Now, it's a concept in other religions, I notice, but it's not a concept in my religion. We reject blood guilt.
You are not responsible for what your ancestors did. Period. Your DNA does not determine your moral value.
Period. That's the Christian perspective. That is not the perspective of the Israeli government, which is killing women and children in Gaza because they're all terrorists because they're all Palestinian.
I'm a Christian. I reject that. I will never accept that.
That's against my religion. So, when I stand up and recount the Christian gospel, people are like, "Oh, you're Hitler. " That says more about you than it does about me.
Do you have no regrets over No regrets over that? Regrets about explaining the Christian gospel? No, I don't.
I wish I'd done it earlier. But the implication, the implication in that speech was that there is, you know, and you said it earlier today, whatever the death of my implication, I work by statement. I'm not a woman.
I don't imply things. I state them. And telling the truth to the authorities in Jerusalem 2,000 years ago, the truth about them, they were illegitimate.
He said that to them, they plotted his murder. This and the point I was making, not by implication, but by statement, is that you can't kill the truth. It doesn't matter if you kill the person.
The truth lives on because truth is eternal. There are ethnoarcists who believe every conversation is about them who are like, "Oh, that's racist. " Whatever.
No, that's Christianity. Why would you, as the American economy sits on the cusp of collapse when the US dollar is worth worth less than it's ever been worth? When our debt service is more than our defense spending.
And when robotics are eliminating entire classes of jobs for working-class people, why would you admit illegally tens of millions of people from the poorest countries in the world with no skills? Why would you do that? Is there some crazy plan the Chamber of Commerce, which is for it, by the way, has where this is going to, I don't know, make labor cheaper?
No, there's no plan that will destroy the country and that's why they're doing it. things and Nick Fuentes has said a long list of very vile things big time including attacking my dad which was the most vile of all in my opinion. Yeah.
I mean I personally have watched videos of him questioning the Holocaust likening it to baking cookies in the oven and there's no way you could have gotten to 6 million seems to be his theory. He seem he thinks to seem to think that we way overstated the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust. He's ripped on poor Usha Vance in the most offensive terms which I I mean so so what do you say to those people say why don't you why didn't you raise any of that you know do your own interview the way that you want to do it you're not my editor buzz off I mean I don't know you want to go yell at Nick Fuentes I'll give you a cell call him and go sit and yell at him and feel virtuous or whatever that's up to you I got the same thing with Putin why aren't you yelling at him okay why so I can show that I'm a good person I care about what my wife thinks my children think and God thinks and that's it I don't to prove that I'm a good person to you.
You may think I'm a terrible person. Okay, I'm just doing my thing. I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel services, probably not American.
And we have every right to ask on whose behalf was he working? How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late '7s with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house in Manhattan? Where did all the money come from?
And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried. And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty.
There is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying.
There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying this. So, I think it's better just to say it right out loud. Did this happen?
And of course, that question has been asked to the government of Israel. And their answer is, we're not going to tell you. And I think our answer should be, no, no, no.
As long as we're sending you money, if you were committing crimes on our soil, we have an absolute right to know. Did you do this or not? And yet, everybody has been so brainwashed into thinking that's somehow an expression of hate or bigotry when it's not.
It's a baseline question that every US citizen has a right to an answer on. What the hell was this? And by the way, if it turns out that it was nothing at all, that somehow Jeffrey Epstein really did earn $165 million giving tax advice to somebody, which is for the record a lot more than most people pay their accountants, and that none of this was actually a foreign intel operation, and that there was no blackmail involved, that actually Bill Gates was just hanging on the island because the weather was especially good.
No one was videotaped doing anything immoral or illegal and then that was used against them to get them to obey. If all of that is false, then just tell me how it's false. But don't call me a lunatic.
Islam is a greater threat than the Jews. Yeah. Is the problem with the Muslims of Europe that they're too Muslim or that they're criminals?
Well, I mean I that's the same thing. Yeah, it it's not though, actually. And it's not.
And know that the same people who are like Islam is the problem are the same people who brought us all these Muslims here crying anti-semitism constantly telling me I can't have free speech rights because there's anti-semitism are the same people telling us that we have to hate Muslims because they're Muslim. How is hating Muslims better than hating Jews? How do we get all these Muslims here after 911?
They all came after 911. Yeah. Who encouraged that exactly?
Who encouraged that? And it's a lot of the same people who are now encouraging us to hate Muslims actually. Why are there twice as many Christians living in Qatar as there are in Israel?
Do you think twice as many Christians in Qatar as in Qatar? Yeah. The Islamist slave state that we heard so much about.
But there are twice as many Christians living there as in Israel. And they can they can leave if they want. They came freely, but there are twice as many in Qar.
Why do you think that build churches? Yeah. Actually, the state gave them the land for their churches.
But um but why is that? If what you're saying is true, because it's not true actually who have read the Quran, which I've done a couple times. I read through the Quran and and the the Muslim Brotherhood, the people, the jihadis, right, are not twisting the Quran.
I'm sure I wouldn't know. They they are being they are being consistent with it. And I see them as a far greater threat to the West than the state of Israel is.
And so protecting Israel from Muslims, you could argue, is a roundabout way of protecting. It's a Why is that? Because Israel bombed Doha, because they were doing a peace, We were doing a peace negotiation with Hamas.
Why is that our job? Why is any of this our job? We've invaded the world and then we've imported the world.
We Let's just pull back because this is destroying our country. My wife have the same firearm at home that your bodyguards use to protect you. Is that fair?
Is that unfair? Why is that? That's a ridiculous argument.
It's absolutely ridiculous. Because you're more important than me. No, I don't.
You are trying. No, I'm asking a sincere question. Why should you get to protect yourself?
Our cops should not be outun our cops. Our military shouldn't be out. Your cops police have Why don't we just limit them to the same gun I can have at home?
Why can't we have a real conversation about this? This is a real conversation. Why is it nonsense?
You're I'm merely saying that you have better protection than I do. And you're saying that my family doesn't deserve to have a certain species of weapon. You get to decide what we can protect ourselves with, but you're not going to in any way take the ability to protect you away from the capital police.
political state of Israel has the right to continue existing. The right? Where does that right come from?
What? What do you mean? These are like I'm not being a lawyer about it.
I just want to know what you're asking. To answer the question because I don't know what you're asking me. Let's go to the You don't want to define your question and I don't know why.
I don't know what you're asking me. I've already said I don't want Israel to be destroyed. I don't want anyone to be killed.
And you've said does Israel have a right to exist? Does it have a And I my question is what right are you talking about? Does Britain have a right to exist?
Does the United States have a right to exist? That there was a world order built up after 1945 which suggested that aggression should not be condoned into countries. Now that countries with borders have the right to I totally agree with that.
If that's which is why the first thing that Israel did within two weeks of this war starting, which is supposedly existential for them, was take southern Lebanon, take someone else's country, as they have done repeatedly. And no one even mentions that. And so I guess I would be opposed to that because I guess I think Lebanon has a right to exist.
I thought Gaza had a right to exist. But I noticed that as soon as we started portioning rights, only one country gets that. So in real life, in military terms, it's not a real fight between the UK and Russia.
Why is he saying that? And why would beating Russia be on the even list of things to do if you're British? Because your people have been betrayed by you.
and turning their rage eastward towards some guy who's got nothing to do with anything happening in the UK or Germany is the fastest way to keep your population in their nar totally disagree on that. But it's not important that that's obviously true. No, it's not because not true.
I mean, what's the Russia? Well, if you talk to intelligence people, if you talk to the military, talk to the liars, you know, I need to I need to check in with German intelligence more often to find out. I mean, German intelligence not blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
What do they know? You've been talking intelligence. What did they say about the Nordstream pipeline?
Well, I think they're pretty sure that the Ukrainians did it. The Ukrainians did it independent. But let's let's now talk about the risk.
Well, the way it was. Let's talk about the threat. I do know from working for 20 years having people call me a racist.
And I always say if I was a racist, I would just admit it. And I would kind of a sexist. I'm not a racist.
Just kidding. Uh, but but I was like, why are they calling me a racist? You could say, you know, you've gained 20 pounds or you're obnoxious or you're kind of nasty.
Ultra, why are they calling me a racist? I never got that. And then I realized they were calling me a racist so no one could hear on the other side that I actually agree on some issues.
And they didn't want anyone to hear that. And the issues specifically that I agree on is I think the tax code is totally immoral. I don't think that people should be paying half the taxes for investing that other people are paying for working.
I hate that because it's not twice as virtuous to invest as it is to work for a wage. Sorry, I think that's wrong. Is that a liberal position?
I have no idea. But no liberals ever heard that because like he's a racist. Shut up.
Or he's divisive or he fly fishes in Central Park. Who gives a Like actually all of us are being played by the most powerful people in the world. That's my view.
And by the way, they're not even politicians. My read from a lot of time, you know, in this world is that politicians have a lot less power than we imagine they do. And I think people are starting to figure that out.
Like they take orders. Almost all of them take orders. So the question is who are they taking orders from?
And who made those people God? Like I didn't vote for them. And why is nobody protesting them?
It's always some poor ICE agent who's just doing his job or some cop. The problem is white cops. What?
The guys who make $50,000 a year. And the left had like literally nationtoping violent protests for an entire summer because cops were white. It's like I don't think we're going after the real criminals here.
And the real criminals are people who are turning single family homes into rental properties. They are people who opened the borders and made it too crowded for your kids to have a job. Sovereignty is the freedom to make independent decisions and Ukraine does not have that and has never had that since 2014 when its government was installed by an American coup.
Zalinski would say he was democratically elected. Well, he's not democratically elected. He's passed his term.
Well, and so by what authority does by Hold on, let me question. By what authority does Zalinski negotiate on behalf of his country, rule his country? He just he just put his main political opponent under indictment and froze his personal funds under internal sanctions the security services of Ukraine.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it? We just we just went through the same thing in this country. Sounds like dictatorship by the way.
No, but he's not a dictator. And then by what authority does he rule Ukraine? Well, here's how he was elected and now under their constitution, he does have the ability to stall elections and operate under martial law during the conflict.
So, you're comfortable with people saying, "I'm going to No, he could certainly have an election if he wanted. If he wanted, but he hasn't won an election. You're from a political family.
" The same thing with Israel right now. They're not having elections either because they're in the midst of an act of conflict. It's not a time for transition of power.
Okay. But I don't know why we make excuses for dictatorship. It's not a dictatorship.
Of course, it is. any unelected leader who has the heed actually he has a presidential term right if Joe Biden just said you know what we're in a conflict right now I can't have elections I'm canceling the election or if Donald Trump but there's a constitutional provision for this if okay he could have an election whenever he wanted he could have election right now no one doubts that actually and his opponent was calling for that before he was just shut down by the Ukrainian intel services a week ago so um there's no authority he doesn't have democratic authority over his country. What he has is a lot of NATO weapons.
And to your second point, he has absolutely, as a matter of fact, the Ukrainian military has sold those weapons on the black market around the world. And they have this these are facts. They've run up in the hands of among others, the Mexican drug cartels, the Taliban, Hamas, Hamas in Gaza.
Fact, and and a lot of other groups. And it's incredibly destabilizing. By the way, the United States did this years ago in Afghanistan, as you know, and sent a bunch of Stinger missiles to the Mahajadine in 1979 and 80 to fight the Soviets.
And those missiles caused huge problems for all of Southwest Asia for like 20 years.
