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thanks cheers the link they're definitely fine I've tested them welcome back to the true JY podcast I'm joined by two lovely people today with familiar faces we've had them on before It's Danny Daniels and her husband this time uh Vic Chapa thanks for joining us guys you I appreciate it if anyone didn't see the last podcast I did amazingly well with Danny uh world famous porn star at this point award winning you actually won performer of the year I was just looking into the history you know you've done well when you get like the top

girl of the industry yeah I'm the biggest [ __ ] of the industry exactly cuz that's a do you Still have that trophy oh yeah I have quite a few I think I'm up to like over 20 at this point yeah like 2 I have to like hide them when the in-laws come over but you know yeah I don't want to know I was that good um we throw a sheet over the trophy like and yeah it was funny cuz you got and you gave your acceptance speech and I was like what are po acceptance

speech awards like and you were like I didn't think I was going to win this cuz I Don't give up the booty hole was the worst it was the worst like I never I I try to not ever drink when I'm doing events okay and I was like there's no way I'm going to win cuz I don't give up the butt so I was like you know what I'm going to have a whiskey like whatever and then I win I was like uhoh that's wild yeah I think I went on stage and I was just

like yeah was the ego was your ego a little bit like cuz you're competing against a lot of pretty women It's a big thing isn't it yeah yeah and like I said like I wasn't expecting it when I did so I was yeah it it took me a while like it probably didn't hit me until like 5 10 minutes later I was like oh oh and like it showed I was like oh okay well guess I'm really good at sucking dick this is cool I mean he can very there's a nod there um and yeah

for those who don't know uh you've done a lot of different types of porn there was Kink there was all sorts of things you Were talking on your videos about crying after orgasms onet I was like wow this is wild I know yeah and they would have to like check in with me obviously like for legality reasons they'd be like you know especially with Kink they would have to like go in and be like okay you were crying are you okay you know did you did you are you where you had the safe for I

was like yeah I was fine I was just like living my best life having like crying orgasms like any Woman would enjoy it's that would terrify me if a if a woman after sex starts crying I'm like oh [ __ ] get reported what about during sex what about during sex you're like Terri immediately I mean sorry can we get you a cup of tea is everything all right uh have you ever done that together is that something that's happened oh yeah absolutely yeah yeah so you're just like a crier she's a happy crier I

know it Sounds really horri when you say it out loud but yeah like I am I'm very like I'll probably cry like I'm tearing up now like when I laugh or if I'm having a good time I'm like a like a she's actually happy cry and not a sad cry funny yeah that's M even if I see like an emotional commercial I'm just like that's so sweet like yeah and like the well the the list went on and you pretty much like did a whole bunch of stuff before you met Vic specifically and I Think

one of the reasons I wanted to have Vic on this time is a to understand the dynamic of the but also now more than ever in society people are talking about men who are with promiscuous women as they say like in in a certain kind of way and I just kind of want to explore this with you guys um because you from what I remember you didn't meet in a oh he was a porn guy kind of way you met in a normal way is that right we met we met at a baby shower yeah

wow was so nice so Hot so nice like the most innocent thing you could ever do I mean it was a porn star's baby shower but it was a baby shower okay well it's a little bit weird now but so so was it like a love a first sight thing or just uh best friends at first yeah best friends yeah we I mean there was I think there was something there between the two of us but neither one of us wanted to dive off that diving board right away until it just kind of kind kind

of just happened how did you Know the pwn star I didn't oh I didn't I actually the person that I was with somebody who I was representing at the time and I I knew who she was because of the person that I was with at the time but I didn't really know her or the I mean I had kind of aged out of porn at that point you know going through that yeah right yeah you kind of age out of it at some point you know it's like H okay you know appar there's a statistic

about that like you hit 40 yep and I'm In like my mid-30s and I'm like I I barely watch it what's going on this has been like a something I've done every day like 20 years and now I'm like I haven't I can't remember the last time I watch it it's weird it's it's it's usually like between 4 and 45 it drops off like dramatically and that's like a norm why do you got do you think there's a reason for that or I maybe it's like a combination of things maybe um you've seen it all

maybe you've gotten to page 256 you're like you know or maybe uh you know girls getting in at 18 21 whatever it is maybe it seems too young uh um there's like a bunch of different life kind of happens at that point you're in your 40s your career is going you're probably married hopefully good hopefully you're getting it good and yeah yeah you're getting it on top you you shouldn't need as much and then when you hit like 45 if you've had kids like I did where they were young when you Were young you're like

okay these are the same age as my kid okay now yeah I'm done now I'm done I think also too it's like you as couples a lot I feel like have like I've noticed like as people get older fans get older they start to watch it as a couple more yeah so that's pretty cool I think it's really cool and like coup's experimenting is become is becoming more and more normal obviously a guy I was hanging out with the other day told me like he was Freaking out though he was like I've just found out

a couple I know they're swingers and was really like traumatized by I couldn't be doing that like and at the same time that's never occurred to me but I'm assuming it's pretty normal for you guys to know people who do that is that oh yeah like yeah we I mean wide breath from utterly vanilla to overthe toop and the people who are over top tend not to be the adult film stars that we know it's it's like the average Person you know five doors down in Florida that makes perfect sense cuz he said they were

a couple who hadn't experimented a lot got together young and then when they hit like I don't know mid 30s are like we have we've missed out on a lot yeah and then they felt like they wanted to do it as a team I love that I actually I love like the open communication and talking about and being able to experiment together like I think that's something that is just so So beautiful in its own way and knowing each other's limits and just like I don't know I just I feel like that's something that's more

popular now than maybe you know 10 20 years ago and the fact whereas maybe before Oh I want to do this and it would maybe lead to like cheating or leaving or you know divorce where now it's like you know I've never had a three-way well I've never been with a woman you want to go find somebody at the bar like it is tricky as A man as well of like cuz guys I think women don't understand how sex is a a chemical thing for us B like I don't mean it trigger got some women

out there but like women have chemical things happen them every month that men have to sort of deal with sometimes and and women don't understand like where're going through some chemical stuff as well and our brain when we're out on the street we see a beautiful woman it's it's not a choice to have that thought It really is preprogrammed I mean it's why we're all here women do that too yeah I'm sure I'm sure I just feel like men are less uh we're filling up every day sort of thing we're we're also less subtle about

it like women are smart enough to keep it quiet and we'll be like damn they beeping their own um so you you guys are at this little innocent well quite innocent party and you get talking were you how quickly before you Spoke about the fact that you in the industry oh no I knew I knew she was in so yeah I had I had known when we met that she was in the industry um almost everybody in the room except me was in the industry so yeah so um we actually became best friends for about

a year and a half before we started dating yeah why do you think you'd had that perod of best friends rather than going straight to relationship like a lot of people do um I was in a relationship at the time Yeah so was I and I don't what no no it wasn't it really wasn't it does it sounds like it was but it wasn't I I'm a publicist I I do pr for a living and I did a lot of art PR and my wife is a world-renowned artist actually I mean Beyond just the adult

film star she's like so she was showing me her artwork and I'm like Jesus this is awesome I like let me help you out with some that that's we kind of became friends over that and then I had a bad breakup and She had a worse breakup and then we bonded over the fact that we literally hate humans was like be quite and then it it became it was actually almost a good thing it became a situation where we kind of realized we had this attraction to each other we're like all right here's all the

crap yeah you know here it is here's all the problems I'm not young anymore this is what it is and she went well yeah well here's all my crap and we're like hey Our crap matches yeah it's like this is what I want in a partner this is what I want in bed this is what I'm into this is like my like you know what I want for the future and we literally like sat together and like had like almost like a business transaction but like in the best way you're checking off that checks off

a box that checks off a box I think it because we were friends first for so long that like when it was so organic When it even happened and I literally looked at him and I was like I should just date you and he's like okay that's how we started dating that's that's like really healthy though isn't it to get everything out in the early that's when people who are knowing each other sorry knowing themselves and therefore able to just put it all out there and a lot of people they waste time when you're younger

especially pretending to be the version of you that is yes I said that To him I was like everyone has [ __ ] for the first 6 months and then and then the real person and then yeah they like they like you wear this like fake facade like even if you don't even know you're doing it but for us M Mr Hyde pops out 6 months later like where the hell is this guy and that's why like in my own life I'm few months later you're like who the [ __ ] am I dating here

but it's just the real them coming out yeah like oh oh so you oh yeah you covered the bag of [ __ ] For a while it's like oh awesome thanks I appreciate that but but then when you're having these moments where you're both in relationships and talking do you think deep down you there was more there but you were just like kind of putting it on pause I don't you know what yeah maybe um but we were I mean neither one of us were doing anything I mean most of our conversation were about her

artwork literally at that point and um and it was I mean it was only like 3 or four Months before I had a break up and then it was like a month later and then we were friends for about a year and um she came to New York uh specifically to promote her artwork and I was getting her meetings and it just you know it was like at one point and we we always talk about this one point in time we both got a drink and we reached and kind of like you know like literally

out of a movie like our hands touched and we looked at each other and it was kind of like uh oh Like literally was like uh oh s like the biggest fear right like you don't want to date your friend because then if it goes south friend yeah it's like so but that's quite romantic it really was cute and gushy and gross you what you expect from I like it yeah and in a week we're married six years yeah literally one week from today yeah and in terms of the toxic breakups that you both went

through that you bonded over um if you don't mind me asking not that is how Toxic are we talking like what was those experiences like for you oh God awful like like got awful yeah and I and I know I sent you my book like in the front part of it you like I started listing off just everything that I put up with and you know I I mean it's it's kind of like comfort's like a bean bag chair it seems like it's really comfortable and then you got to get up and you're like oh

this sucks and and that's what happens is like you just Accept a little bit more [ __ ] a little bit more [ __ ] a little bit more [ __ ] and now all of a sudden you're 6 months in and you're like what the hell am I doing and it's like it literally hits nothing there's nothing about this relationship I like I think both of our breakups were so bad that it put us in a mental state where we were like [ __ ] it this is what I want like I don't care

if I sound shallow like I don't care like I want this this and this like I was I think we Were both in that because I think if one of us was and one of us wasn't it wouldn't have worked but because we both were just so bitter and it was like look I want and C just don't give me [ __ ] can you be ab and c and if not it's cool like that's what I want in a relationship and so isn't it weird how sometimes you need to have like the worst possible

experience in order to develop a zero tolerance policy yes absolutely cuz I definitely have been There where after that one I'm like ain't no way you're bringing me down no I'm not allowing anyone to do that again yeah you're like I just went through all of that uhuh I'm not even getting halfway through that [ __ ] again there also becomes a point in time and we did and we were friends and we had I mean she was living in California I was in New York so it wasn't like we were seeing each other starting

a relationship there a point in time where You have to get comfortable with yourself and you have to like look be able to look in the mirror and go you know what I have no problem being alone until the right person comes if the right person comes it might not but if the right person because then you're comfortable in your own skin and you're not just looking for that relationship cuz I need something that fulfills me now I'm fulfilling myself and also if you're alone if you're alone I feel like You've got hope at least

like when you're stuck in that [ __ ] relationship you got nothing yeah when you're like settling for being that you're like oh God but I guess I can't do any better you're like if you're better off alone just be alone like at that point like my hand is great exactly exactly like wow um and then obviously you're still in the porn industry at that point yeah and how long after you and Vic became an item did you calm that down Because you're still in porn but you stopped working with other male performers yeah it's

it was pretty quick but it didn't have anything to do with Vic it was like it was honestly like this like perfect like [ __ ] storm of life that I was going through at the time and I was wanting to move to New York and shoot my own content and focus on my own Brands so it honestly like just it was pretty quick on but not it wasn't like oh I'm so in love with this Guy I'm not going to take any other dick it was just kind of like oh I'm I just happen

to be in this place where I've [ __ ] everyone I've wanted to [ __ ] and like I'm ready to like move on and move to the next ch and then he it was it's so funny how life works like that like and then it was like oh I'm kind of ready to like you know do my own thing and move to New York and start my own businesses and then he just like popped up like something I hadn't even thought Of and then yeah it wasn't I there was no we never had a

conversation of okay you need to step out she was stepping out we happened it was like ancillary it had literally nothing to do with each other they were two different directions she she had told me months before that she was like you know I really kind of want to phase out of the industry there's really nothing much more that I can do with it um and I want to move on with my life and we never really it was Never a situation where it was like okay you're going to stop now or she was looking

at me going I'm going to stop now it just happened yeah I think a lot of fans think that too and like what I want to point out is like a lot of fans like when because obviously when you first date someone you're not putting them on the internet right and so I think when I started posting him it happened to be along the same time that I stopped performing with other Performers so people were like oh you got with Vic and you stopped taking other di like no it just happened to work out that

way did they give you grief for that the fans cuz you have dedicated fans I did I got a little bit at first but in in a way it kind of weeded out um fans that just wanted to see me take as much like [ __ ] and dick as possible which is great and I had that chapter in my life um but it kind of brought in new fans like I have a Huge amount of couples that watch my porn um fans that just love to watch me be me like cuz cuz now it's

like I I'm [ __ ] at home home I'm on my couch it's like it's like real life you know yeah people love that stuff yeah and so it's kind of like it kind of just like swung the pendulum in like a different way but didn't you say that you have like a a real cult following in India or something I've seen you the weekend getting pictures with fans there a lot Of Indian dudes yeah so it was funny I did I actually did um I had my products in a a shop Vibes pleasure Boutique

and um they're outside this out of London outside of London excuse me and I had fans Drive the some fans they like 4 hours another set of fans said six hours each way up near the Scottish border they were coming down to Alford or whatever we I mean we were we were we were in the South and they were coming down they're like oh we just wanted and They were I mean they were all they always nice in seven years that we've been together I can tell you we've had only one interaction with a fan

that was annoying and it wasn't even like obnoxious it was just annoying can you explain that the guy was like half drunk and like oh what's it like to [ __ ] a porn star and I'm like well something you'll never know you know like but that every other time they've been really respectful hey do you mind and they Always ask me do you mind oh never mind you know we're really happy for the fans but never he's my giveaway it's annoying his big old bald headed in a bar and people see him they look

they go could that be and then they look and go oh yeah like he's quite memorable GE like yeah but but like driving 6 hours to see you right like I'm a YouTuber I keep my clothes on but even that would freak me out a little bit it was it it was I didn't know I was speechless I was just Like 6 hours each way yeah I was like yeah they were I've done that drive it's a it's a long drive yeah it's like it was really it was honestly really flattering if anything but I

was just kind of like I don't want to I wouldn't drive 6 hours for anything do you know do you know what my bring go to if you'll drive 6 hours for that what what else would you do yeah where where how far is this what would you do for the kondik bar just trying to Figure this out here you scary but so how do you watched Danny I'm going to call you Danny I know that's your daughter's ironic whole another a whole another story talk about that later um so had you watched Danny's uh

porn videos no never why I have it live even now even now especially now whye now because I have it live why do I need to watch it on video so um I think that would really surpris people though like when I like I Think I I heard you say that in a interview I remember thinking wow cuz like if if I was friends with a porn star and then if I'm dating a porn star like just let's just put this scenario together it's that like curiosity more than anything it's not even like it's not

even necessarily a dirty thought like I got to see what's been going what scenes that she like to do I mean don't get me wrong I I have lovely people who send me photos on a regular basis and I'm and I always laugh it's like do you think I didn't know this exist oh dud DM yeah D DM they're like oh look at your wife and I'm like yeah okay great congratulations you found the photo that's you know on Twitter you I'm thrilled for you but I I I find them in this very weird position

because we do have a lot of friends in the industry and they've become very close friends and some of them are they're like family so most guys would love to see their Wife's hot friends naked I can't not see it and it's hard horrifying it's like yeah it's like you know aesthetically beautiful and emotionally crippling at the same time you're a really interesting dud I say this respectfully like you're you're quite a lovely guy but equally uh different right cuz I just can't imagine anyone I know being able to take that approach just the the

the Curiosity but also then the other things And you obviously don't think like most men because I think most men a couldn't be with a pawn star yeah but also they couldn't even date upon star without wanting to say everything I remember this brings me back I don't know why I'm talking about this but a mate of mine had some old videos of him with his previous girl on his like computer or whatever they're like home movie sit yeah a whole bunch of them like 30 and his new girl who was Like he was having

a kid with and all that found it oh and and I said to him like what did she do like did she take your approach just you know I don't need to say this this was before me no she watched every single second because she had to know I'm going to [ __ ] him better and that's what women are so like I think that's a woman thing to be fair but you must have some quite a bit of mental strength just block that out and just be like you know what it's not even That

I block it out I just don't care I literally don't care I don't know right I mean I wish I could tell you that I had a reason I just don't care it's like okay and people I I mean I've heard this a bunch of times and I'm like look Kieran Lee who was on your podcast right had his dick inured for a million dollars she had him she chose me I'm fine I'm fine I like I'm fine I mean I got it's I've just realized I've actually seen your dick Before I followed I followed

D on I'm like there's my mate's dick is weird I mean that that now that's a little on the out side there's nothing wrong with it it's perfectly fine but you're right that's the key is you were like it's weird I'm like yes cuz like it's like all my my close friends in the industry that come and stay at our house and stuff it's a different Dynamic I think people think that like off camera we're all just like laying around in launder Having pillow fights and it's not it's just like it's a job like anything

else so for him it's like you know seeing like Shere DeVille naked who's like one of my best friends and she's like I mean sh's like a sister to me yeah she's and and like I can't like open up Twitter with I'm like cuz like usually the thing I love about Vic is that he doesn't care and I think people assume that if you're in porn you can't date what we call civilians because they Are jealous they'll ask you to quit the industry they or they'll just like [ __ ] you for the story and

that's the common is that the norm the norm yeah like I'm not sure you know oh it's either going to be somebody that wants to [ __ ] me for the story that thinks they can handle it and then can't that hears it from their friends like oh you know your wife's a porn star your girlfriend's a porn star it's like and then they can't they think they can mentally take it and they can't So we need start to date so once I when I was with Vic I was like oh he actually doesn't give

a [ __ ] like it's so freeing to not have to be worried or stressed or constantly just like oh my God is you know if Johnny SS comes up comes up to us at a convention is he going to be like kind of you know straightened up you know but it's like not like that at all like kieran's a perfect example we've had drinks together and stuff and laughed our asses off so it's and I mean Are comfortable in your in your masculinity yeah cuz I've dated porn stars I [ __ ] porn stars

I've dated civilians like I I chose him like he's the person I want to be with like I've obviously [ __ ] enough to know what I want in bed and so it's like and you obviously your age could have helped with this because you're at a point where you're a bit wiser you're not in as you're not in that early years masculine where you have to prove Yourself to everyone you've proven what you need to prove but you've now also got involved as I've said how did that feel the first time you're like this

my dick's going to be on the internet like how was that you want to laugh I didn't care I didn't the one that was like she was all she was all worried about it and I'm like look this is this is what you do I you know this is what we're going to be then let's just do it and move on I I'm bizarrely and I don't know why I Never grew up jealous in my life I have a I have two brothers who are younger than me and no one can ever tell you that

my especially my middle brother cuz we're four years apart we never had a fight ever there is not one member of our family cuz I didn't care like he would win trophies I would be proud of him like he became a doctor I was proud of him I didn't I never got that I've never had that jealous feeling over anything even business partners would Tell me like if if they went into the refrigerator and ate ate something I wanted I'd be like oh good did you like it I just I'm not that person I don't

know why I CU when I've reached out to you and just said cuz you're a businessman I'm asking you things you're very generous very given sure you could verify that he's very giv um but no like you said you were worried about him yeah I was the one that was stressed out about it like it Actually took quite a while to be like okay like I would be like are you sure I was like he's like let's just shoot like who cares let's just shoot content just use my dick like it's fine and I was

like and I took I was the one yeah just he's like I mean you think about it now it's like guaranteed sex twice a week like oh yeah no honey I'm here for you I got you it's no problem supp HB I'll be here you yeah but I was the one that it took me like quite a few weeks to be Like okay like is this something that you know I I I felt responsible you know because this wasn't like he him being like oh he wouldn't have done this without you yeah and I didn't

want to like I wanted to make sure that it was something that you were okay with because I've talked about this before but like porn is a life sentence like it's not something that you do once and then it's just like the internet is always forever so I really wanted to Make sure but as you can see he care and you marry in you know I mean look I I and I and I get it and I like even Age and what you got to know what you're getting into you got to know I mean

I'm I'm I'm marrying not just an adult film star a person who's been in the top 25 for a decade I mean we don't go any that she isn't noticed we got stopped at the Vatican for a photo and that's a true story I mean like we got stopped at we can't go anywhere without her being Noticed so I know what I'm signing up you have kids though so so was was there a worry that you were like like from your side like oh my God like are they ads they're adults yeah they're adult I

don't have kids have adults yeah but even even then um was that a conversation that you had or did you just do it that no that was a conversation her and I had about it like you know your kids have to be okay with it my kids didn't care I mean honestly You described that conversation I'm going to need to know so it bizarrely it was don't give too much of cuz I'm very proud I'm like I'm very protective like protective so like so there's a running joke story that when she came to New York

the first time uh my both my kids were there I have a son and a daughter both my kids were there and they were looking at the two of us and privately they had a bet when we were going to start dating they just saw it they knew They just knew and my daughter won and she'll appreciate that when she watches this podcast that she won the B my son still owes her the money so she'll even appreciate that too but yeah but they they and like her and my daughter are very close and my

my son and I are very close and it just you know it it they were smart enough to realize dad's happy and happy dad makes for for a good dad so they're so liberal right so L yeah they would they would chill about it and I mean you know everybody in the beginning was what were you know you shortest is going to and then everyone that I came across on your side of our relationship they all said like we just we just love seeing Vic happy like we don't care like no one I mean it

was very few people like very few people with in anything would was were no judgy comments no I mean like we had we had our share of them but they were from the outside not from like good close friends It's the same people that would judge me for doing porn anyway you know so I'm like okay moving on you know and I mean I was shock and awe like the first 6 months of the relationship um people were looking at it going uh and then Testament to my wife she made everybody comfortable everybody's like oh

my God she's awesome she's great look at how happy Vic is it's not you know it's not what we it's not what we were expecting it to be which is always the answer we Get with this as you move forward your energy from following you guys for years now is it is very close it isn't like you know I guess people if they look from the outside in they'd look at your relationship and think oh he's a sugar daddy or something that was big in the beginning yeah a lot of people people thought I left

the industry to be with the sugar daddy and I was like yeah I could see I just like old guys like just let me live my old guy life like I'm I'm Best I can also understand the fact that like you know if you were to say I'm [ __ ] a porn star my girlfriend's a porn star everyone is instantly going to think the same thing oh that'll be over in a month like you know oh you know it's just like going to be like a fun little thing that like you know so I

think once we got together for an extended period of time and especially now that we've been married for almost 6 years people are like oh yeah like yeah You're not Anna Nicole Smith yeah yeah I mean I people for those who don't remember that was a really famous woman who went up with a 90-year-old guy very different yeah I think they think they were together like six months and he died just with him for his ARP card she wanted the free cooler from a ARP but as it happened when I was doing my research apparently

when you met you were involved in this Charlie Sheen thing yeah that was that was that was kind of How we met the person that I was representing was one of Charlie's exes and the whole [ __ ] hit the fan kind of okay so so can we talk a little bit about that cuz that's quite a fascinating story in the industry right so Charlie Charlie was very and Ricky ja joked about this like if that was a Monday then what was his New Year's Eve like he was like hanging out with porn stars and

all the drugs and then obviously HIV hits was that right yeah He was HIV positive yeah he I guess he was he was HIV positive for a while and had hit it for a while and I was representing somebody who at the time um she he had hid it from and they were together and they had gotten engaged I mean this whole this whole relationship is because of Charlie wow wow you only successful relationship maybe you know Charlie Charlie and I are about almost like almost a year apart he's like a year it Was a

really big problem in the industry because you know when you have men and women going out and you know like like when we got together like I made him get tested before we [ __ ] and a lot of people don't do that and a lot of people go out and they bring in like diseases into the industry and then we have all these like breakouts and then the industry has to shut down so he was like a massive problem but it's like what was it like for those women who were Infected by him I

don't know a lot of them very closely so I can't speak on their behalf and I'm not sure that there's ever been really a case of somebody who's been infected by him I think I I really don't know that for a fact um but it was something that was kind of like hush and hidden and it was it was a little I mean this whole thing odd because when you're [ __ ] you know 5 to 15 people a week and you hear about this and you're like You hold your breath you're like as I've

always been very responsible in the industry I've always gotten tested I've always made the people that I was [ __ ] on the side get tested so to be you know to hear something oh there's going to be that that whole Scandal happened I was like here we go like hope my test doesn't come up I'm hope I don't have to kill somebody and you know it's it's bizarre because I know my age My Generation getting tested was not a big Thing cuz I lived through wasn't HIV it was AIDS you got it you died

period that was it you know I was in school when that was like really scary so getting tested was something you either did or you got you know you were you were taken your life in your had so when she asked me to get tested I was like yeah no problem and she was like really I'm like yeah it's like I grew up with that I grew up with that yeah and I do know that and I've had this conversation with Kids and and friends you're like oh I don't want to get tested I'm like

are you out of your mind yeah I mean get tested you out of I don't want to know you don't want to know yeah oh I don't have any symptoms what like that's that's insane get tested be safe I mean that's just that's key yeah and just knowing your status and like especially if you're at you know you have partner Partners like why not know and now a word from our sponsors because the true Jordy YouTube channel would not be able to make as many great podcasts each month as we do if it wasn't for

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a family so why did you guys think marriage fit you w that's a really good question um I you know it's funny I I Think when we first got together we weren't sure we were going to get married we were just going to and then it just seemed right it just seemed correct you know was like one of those things where it's like we really wanted to do this and it's not like the piece of paper means anything but the ceremony does and having your family there mean something and having our friends and the people

that we care about meant something the piece of paper is just Piece of paper birth doesn't really yeah it wasn't even like a second thought of if I should marry this person it was just like well like even when we got together I'm like this is the person I'm going to spend the rest of my life with like it was like an instantaneous like I just like knew and and you didn't have to get married though like a lot you so it was it that ceremony and the vows and and wanting to commit to each

other so that you have that feeling of security There yeah I I I don't even know if there was a feeling of security it's more like a feeling of love that we wanted to share with our friends and family members and have everybody there and have her family there my family there and it wound up being it was I mean it was a beautiful weekend and it meant more like I said the piece paper is just piece of paper yeah like even if it wasn't like binding us together I still would have done it just

like a Celebratory of like our love not to get all mushy no I mean it no cuz cuz that when I was contemplating your Dynamic I was like you know you don't need marriage you know but you obviously felt the need for it in in a in a sense and it's especially with you Donnie because you're just you you danced your own tune and i' I found that from meeting you you like you do everything your own way and I just wondered what it was about it do you know I mean that that makes sense

And in your head when you took those vows were you like and it's definitely over for me shooting with other men in in that moment like maybe not in that very moment but like around that time no it's I think people associate marriage with like monogamy and even though we are monogamous and that's just something that works for us like Vic is always a person that I can go to and if like like down the road I was like I don't know I want to get gangbanged like like 30 Dudes like I think he's something

that I can come to and not be ashamed afraid like we can always have an open and honest conversation and getting together and getting engaged getting married like that didn't even it didn't even cross my mind that anything in the relationship would change let let's just say that you did feel like that one day Vick how would you do with oh yeah what would you do it would definitely be a conversation that would have to there is you know It's like we've had this conversation a bunch of times going into it like did you want

to go back to the industry and most of the time it ends like this yeah I know what it's like to bang other people yeah I it's never going to be the same as being with you why do I want to Ru what we have because it's like the plate you throw it on the ground you break it you can't put it back together you can glue it back together but it still got cracked yeah so that's so That's by just it's like if you have if you're in a monogamous relationship and you want to

be monogamous the moment you break that you can't get that back it's it's not coming back so we've had this conversation it's like why do I want to do this just for the sake of doing this cuz that's all it is you know you I mean look we're guys we've been around the we've been around the block a few times you've had those times where you've banged somebody and afterwards you went What did I do that for you know and women have the same thing you're like what did I do that and you can't get

back what you've lost by doing that so same thing with us it's like we've had this conversation many times and she's even said she goes and it was like even if it's like oh go back and do girl girl it's like yeah it's the same thing I'm by I [ __ ] so much and I love I love women I'm bisexual like but I've just [ __ ] so much [ __ ] that I'm like I Know what pussy's like I've had plenty of it that's you know I loved it but it's just the reason

I'm asking you specifically this cuz I know people watching will will I'm interested in where the line is with you because you've obviously you've been perfectly fine with their previous um life in in porn when you were active in that way and you've not even felt the need to watch them but it feels like you the Line is now moving forward okay we're in This together now and that you do want that monogamy moving forward then at this point yeah I we I think we both have had this discussion and it's not even it's not

even that it would bother me if she went back in the industry it was just something like as we keep going further and further in there's just something incredibly loving and sweet about it and it's I I personally can't even imagine finding somebody else at this point it's like I look at them And I go yeah that's a really attractive woman but I'm not ruining this for what might I'm the one that's like you want a [ __ ] her yeah right she'll be like you want a [ __ ] her and I and and

and I'll literally go great I like so I'll get into this you'll have sex with a woman it'll be like screwing a wet mop and I'll be like okay now I've ruined this this beautiful thing that we had for a horrible sexual experience wonderful that just make hor be horrible I think If it is it would be it's never going to have the same emotional connection that's just never going to be there so so it it's it's very interesting that that is quite precious to you the the keeping what you've built up yeah yeah so

it cuz at first you know people will expect you to just be super I don't care about any of this and there's there's guys out there who are with pawn star who are just like yeah do what you want oh yeah I don't think like what our Relationship is is any in any way the right for everyone I think it just works for us like for me I did everything I had all the sexual experiences so I don't even feel a need but I can also understand why couples that haven't experienced it would like to

explore that together the body count thing are you are you guys aware of your own body count oh God stopped counting at like 500 I so and mostly it's women i f so many women Yeah I I saw that that's like the big Trend now body count it's it's interesting yeah because you know and when your Sicilian body count has a whole different like yeah exactly he like which body count are we talking about here so but it's it's I I mean I always laugh it's like guys worry about girls body counts but guys can

literally be like a horny dog on a street somewhere come on give me a break you know it's got to go both ways I mean it Really has to go both ways you can't look at a woman and go oh my God you've been with 20 people you're you're a horrible [ __ ] meanwhile you've been with 60 like are you kidding me I think logically that makes perfect sense but for the the vast majority of people for whatever reason you can correct this if you think I'm wrong I just think men care more about

feeling like oh this woman is you know mine and hasn't been around that like men are very Territorial or you know misogynistic will go with that word too I can understand that mentality but my I men have said that to me in the past but my counter is always wouldn't you want a woman to be with you and know that your dick the way you [ __ ] the positions that you both like the way you know wouldn't you want her to experience other dick because if you're the only dick she's ever [ __ ]

and she wakes up someday and goes you know I really want to put a 12-in dick inside me just to see what it's like then she cheats yeah so for me and like for me personally it's like I would rather my partner go out and experience everything and then I would know and feel secure in our relationship cuz I'm like you did it all you saw the menu you tried every platter I'm glad that you chose me you know so yeah I I always and there's a part of me that always wonders too and I

I did in my book I wrote about Guys realize that the only place that they're vulnerable is sex women can make them do anything with sex a guy will go places with a with a heart on he wouldn't go with a loaded 45 I mean I mean I blow Vic to do Tik toks with me so it works out like you know right so I think that men at heart look so Happ exactly I think men at heart just want to control that in some way because they know that's where they're most vulnerable I mean

there really is if a Woman wants a man to to do something they know they have one Avenue that they and they don't even have to have sex with him they just have to flirt with him half the times and they'll do stupid [ __ ] so and I think that's why they you know they ratchet down on it I think that's why even governments and men in power ratchet down on sex because they're afraid of it you make really good points and I I definitely think there's a lot of Truth in that I think

The the the fear from some men is like oh if she is promiscuous then can I trust her to not be cuz cuz cuz as we know we can't switch it off and Men know what dogs we can be so like well if you can't switch it off then we're really [ __ ] you know and there is a little bit of fear there and one of the things about porn that's really interesting right now is this taboo going on of letting people [ __ ] your wife oh yeah the 22 uh thing I don't

know if you're Familiar with there was the Lena Paul Lena the plug sorry plug thing yeah yeah he set that up where you know they'd been doing girls together and she'd been off limit and then out of Norway they dropped this trailer of her in the big black guy and I've never seen the internet care that much about Pon I noticed I I don't know the whole story but I did see some of it on like Twitter and stuff and I was like I was actually really Surprised like great PR thing yeah I don't know

what his response I don't know what his response was or if it was staged or if it was real or what but I was actually really surprised that she got so much [ __ ] for it he got this [ __ ] for he got L he got oh my God he got cuz the guy is a big [ __ ] um like what was it's really hard to explain just I feel like you just landed on this planet it's mad yeah no because Adam is a podcaster as well so he's kind of Dipping into

two Different uh worlds in pown and podcasting even hip-hop and so his background is podcasting and then he got with his partner and she's in porn and yeah so they started making porn together and it was kind of seen as like weird for a podcast that to do this but fair play to you like you're getting all these women yeah and then out of Norway so he he kind of I imagine had some pats on the back and then when he decides to let her do her thing a lot of the Hip-hop guys the podcast

guys you Fu I can totally see it you went from being on the top of the hill and getting all this [ __ ] to being now like oh well your girl's going out and getting other dick so he like like I feel like in their eyes maybe he like fell off the top of the mountain type situation is that like with and I think he handled it as best as anyone can by leaving into it and getting and making more jokes than anyone else did so like he's tweeting Out like if you really love

your wife you should let a [ __ ] other guy that's what I was that's exactly what I was thinking I was like I actually would much rather hang out with that guy than anybody else cuz at least he's letting her do whatever she wants I personally didn't find it a big deal because it's not like look if one of my mates privately was like yeah she's got a fell coming around this weekend like I'd be like what but it's Adam 22 like it's what he does he's in the porn game but he quite geniusly

played on the taboo of cook holding and all of this sort of stuff and then whipped up the [ __ ] on and I think even the wedding photos went out like a month before so he's like oh I'm going to drop these wedding pH yeah and it looked like a beautiful wedding the most perfect wedding and then you've got her bending over a month later so I do feel like maybe this was a bit of a gen I mean We're talking about right now right um and he made a shitload of money but that's

why I wanted to ask you guys like whether you'd consider doing something similar because it just broke the internet you know and and everyone knows you guys as this couple now I've never been one to I don't know I and like I don't know if this is true because I don't know enough about the story but I don't know if this is like a play to make a bunch Of money and for me I've never made my decisions in porn based upon how much money I would make I've always done what I enjoyed so even

the idea of selling I hate to say this cuz I don't know if this is true but selling my soul to do that scene if it is for the press or is for the money it just wouldn't be worth it to me but if she was doing it in the sense of I really just want to explore other options of human beings even though we're married I just want to like I want to know what other experiences are like I feel like that I'd be all four but depending on I would never be like well

you know if I do this scene I can like pretend it's something else and then make a bunch of money I just I don't know for me it was like I've got into it to get laid but you were pretty you could have gotten laid out of here no but it was a safe I I was so shy when I got into porn and I did it because I I had no game and I Wanted to explore my sexuality safely the idea of you being shy I know I'm actually very shy in real life she's

actually very shy I've just watched an interview last night doing my research she was like yeah I've had a fist in a my fist in a man's ass a fist in a woman's ass oh yeah I I put my fist in a guy's ass and I clapped in there like a seal but I'm very shy but she is very shy and it's not it's I can't even I can't I can't even like [ __ ] she is Actually pain I'm the extrovert she's painfully shy if she has to do appearances and stuff it's like yeah

bragging yeah oh really even even coming here and she knows you and likes you and stuff like that even that she was like just a little nervous like than than norm and it's and it's funny I'm like yeah whatever don't worry about it yeah you really are Care Free yeah I really don't give a [ __ ] bro I crossed the 50 line and and all my [ __ ] went away if They were just gone you know yeah I feel like I'm hitting that early cuz you know that you see these sort of wise

or old I do who they saw coming out with stuff and you're like oh you're at that age now where you're just like this is me deal with it I really feel like I'm hitting that commendable I like that I like the no [ __ ] given the true no [ __ ] given I really I really think that's like the ultimate like Enlightenment is when you just don't It's funny because there were I mean there are definitely things I care about I just have learned not to care about what other people think I just

don't care I just you know I guarantee you there'll be a million comments underneath here making all kinds of stupid statements I just really I probably won't even read them and if I do read them I'm just going to laugh and say okay congratulations you you had your five sentences in there good for You I mean like uh you know if you were a person in my life who I I was like let's say you were like my my old man for example my old man turned around me one day and he was like yeah

I'm dating a p star now i' be like hey yeah [ __ ] it you know cuz and I do think that it really helps you that you're a wiser guy than cuz I if you had met Danny let's say you were in your 30s and that version of you had met Danny how would you have handled It because it's one thing being your age when you've had all these years to realize well I I mean she would have been a little too young at no let's just say yeah there was the insecurity was a

bit higher Fu then I don't know um I've never like I said I've never been a jealous person ever like over anything so I don't know I think uh the only difference would have been is at that point I was way more about my career and about hustling and about Moving things so I tended to and it was the reason for my split up with my ex is I tended to put my work first and my relationship second and I learned later on that that's not the way it should be but other than that I

don't think I would have had a I still wouldn't have had a problem with where we you know what this was and I just don't I just never cared you know I I never cared about my girl girl's body counts my wife's body count and I just didn't care You mentioned in your book um had a read of that last night May about halfway through fantastic by the way thank you um dick pics happen to find their way into Danny's um inbox a lot um I know you said you don't care about it bit weird

though is it um it's bizarre I I don't understand why guys do it I don't it's like first of all most of the time they send them I mean I have a dick and I've looked at these things and went what the [ __ ] is That cuz I'm the one that show I'm like look at this one look at this one is that like an anill in Texas what is that thing you know and it's like I and I don't you know I think somewhere in the book I wrote I said the world would

be a better place if guys realize instead of sending a dick pick they should just send a text message that says oh you're so pretty today how's your day going and women sent a picture of them getting a coffee going into a Starbucks the world Would be a better place cuz guys are visual and women are emotional and that's just fact the other way the other way happens all the times women will send 500 texts and the guy will want to write stop texting me then delete and something else and then the girl you know

the guy will send a dickpick and the girl will be like oh dude come on man I wouldn't send the dip dickpick to my wife unless she asked like three times because even then I wouldn't be Sure she really wanted it so I don't get it and you have guys like Jeff beos sent dickpics I mean is your bank account not your dickpic I mean you need to the zes are more than the inches right exactly it's like you needed your your Jeff P you needed to send a dickpick I mean I don't get it

wild that just shows that even the smartest man out here is as dumb as a [ __ ] no I had a I had a a distant relative wrote a book called the basic laws of human stupidity And literally the first rule was stupidity knows no status there are stupid doctors and there are stupid businessmen and there are just stupid NOS no status and yeah when a guy has his it the Robin Williams joke the man God gave men two head and only enough blood to run one at a time oh yeah you got a

hard on in your hand you're not thinking thinking straight I don't care how beautiful your [ __ ] is it doesn't mean you can use it oh yeah I can have a Really good set of kitchen knives and I wouldn't be able to cook [ __ ] have you experienced that before like where yes you've been with a guy you're like this should be great and then you're like okay you well I'm just going to sit on your face cuz this is a working for me yes yes just cuz you have a pretty [ __

] doesn't mean anything wow wow you've always got away with words dad I remember the last time we had you on some of the one line I was Like this is going in the history books podcasting it was something like um you called only fans Uber for my [ __ ] yeah and then sounds sounds like something I'd say absolutely yeah I mean I I personally love that gu send me dick pics especially my only fans because I love giving dick ratings oh that's a real huge thing man oh my God especially it's femdom like

let me [ __ ] roast your [ __ ] like that's the best day ever so what what is that how do they react When you do that I'm really mean okay give me a pict roast her right now but they but they ask for it it's not she's not mean to it they they're like oh humiliate my she's like oh I'm going in on this since I've seen you I've been shooting a lot more femdom stuff okay um just because I've been like enjoying it and yeah my femdom content is my favorite wow and

these guys are like craving the the nastiest can you tell me just for example like if you don't mind Dipping into the archives of your mind what is the sort of things that you you may say to these guys about their pises for free is that is that hard okay why don't you send me a photo when you get fully hard oh is oh is that how you would stroke it are you just like overeager you can settle down you can slow it down you don't have to be such a [ __ ] loser if

oh do you last more than 30 seconds in bed are you going to last This even minute now oh you're going to come already aren't you you're [ __ ] pathetic for [Laughter] free that that'll be that'll be $300 okay that being said it's only with consent I care about consent so yeah but all dick ratings uh femom stuff no just want probably like 25% 30% but what about the ones who think that they're bigger and want to hear that and then you're like actually it's a five out of 10 really yeah I like um

I have some friends that we talk about like okay but what's the real rating you gave him an eight but what's the real rating oh really but all the ratings are accurate No they really are my favorite is femdom and small penis humiliation guys will send me their tiny micro [ __ ] and they want me to roast them and it is the best days ever it's so much fun bro God bless them this we keep getting you guys God bless them Like these like little T yeah oh it's the best how small are we

talking about give me an example yeah like like guys you need to like like guys will jerk off a two fingers right fully hard and to come because they couldn't get it yeah it's awful my fa and then I usually like he's having coffee and I'm like look at this guy's tiny [ __ ] and he's like oh my God go inside that's breakfast yeah that's like jump scare just woke up babe could you Give me a yeah give me a break and were you aware that men with this smaller penis existed before you got

into this sort of thing or was this your first experience with a lot of little penes I me anytime you date a guy you're like please don't have a terrible [ __ ] just please just please let it just look like somewhat decent it's like this I'm sure it's the same for men I'll tell you too and it's like these guys they'll send they'll send their dicks in for rating And there's a there's a part to it that you're like I kind of get it they're probably they're just looking for some validation in life and

it it it's funny because most of the time they actually want to hear what I would do with more like when I get do a rating it's not like oh I might be like oh your [ __ ] is so thick or oh you look like you're like a solid like seven eight in like not you know but it's more like I would like to ride it like this I would like To see how far I can put it down my throat I would like to like see how quickly I can get you off just

for sport you know just like stuff like that they care more about like the dirty talk aspect I feel like at least for my fans I can't speak on everyone but um I think they enjoy more of like what I would do with that [ __ ] more than like me being like yeah that would look really good with like a little top hat and a mustache Like I've heard I've heard porn stars talk about like having sex with the biggest sticks can you describe a bit of like having to deal with those extra large

guys and how tricky that can be or whatever if you don't mind yeah no no no I know I know where this is going did I tell you about the last stick I ever took when I was on last time no okay he's pry so do you know who Danny D is I've heard of him yeah okay so Danny D is This like sweet as PE nice guy English guy so small like I could take him in a fight like he's not a big dude no man he's 118 be a Jo yeah this really sums

up the lord giveth and the lord taketh away absolutely he got a lot in one area and the rest this guy has this massive dick and browers was like I'm going to get like my thanks browers the scen going to shoot yeah um but they were like will you work with Danny D and I was like I Love him he's a really nice guy but he has a huge dick and I am like I am not the kind of person that's like what's the biggest thing you can put inside me you know so you know

how many inches he is like oh guesstimate he he's around too he's like's he's like a Subway sandwich wow okay he's a yeah he's aot next time you you're GNA be like God damn it she did what yeah um I remember like going to set I flew to Vegas to work with him I Was thinking about getting out like stopping working with performers I like you know I just kind of feel like I'm I've done everything I wanted to do and I've worked with everyone I wanted to work with and like I just kind of

feel like I'm ready for this new chapter and I working with Danny I was like dude you have a huge dick like I'm looking at this thing and I'm like and he was really sweet he's like I'll do whatever you want I'll lay however you want I was Like okay well I'm going to need like a solid 20 minutes before the scene starts to like work my [ __ ] up to like get it in and he was super cool all right no problem can you tell me what that means you have to like do

like pregnancy breathing cuz you can't just start the scene and be like I think a lot of people think that like we just are just like open Gates like yes just give me all the [ __ ] I'm I thought these women must be doing something no we warm up Before I mean everyone's different I warm if it's a big dick I like to warm up before I like to get my [ __ ] wet like I like to like stretching before the marath yeah exactly so I'm like inching it in and like sitting on

his [ __ ] and like okay okay I can do this I can do this how painful is that to start with it actually wasn't painful because I slowly warmed up to it and so the scene started we did a great scene he was very sweet he was very like gentle And I will never forget it as long as I live I'm walking through the airport cuz I was flying back home to LA from Vegas and my [ __ ] [ __ ] was giving me like a standing ovation I was walking through the airport

and my [ __ ] was going like this cuz he had [ __ ] blown it out for the last two hours and I was like I'm done that's it I climb the Mount Everest of [ __ ] and I'm [ __ ] done with it and um my [ __ ] still doesn't do that by the way just so you know but uh yeah I Was just kind of like I did where do you go from here a freight train like what else am I going to put in there yeah like there can't be

that many guys as big or bigger than him right yeah and like I said like I I know a lot of girls that love that it's just not for me so I was like you know I did it it's on the internet here you go like enjoy and yeah so that's not your ideal is there an ideal obviously Vic uh pres yeah I just like a nice [ __ ] that like stretches me To a nice Point makes me come and I love a man that eats [ __ ] that would beol easy to please

very simple you must have a degree in that at this point yeah did you give them instructions though like as in like you know when you're getting to know each other were you very communicative of what you wanted from him or was it yeah we actually talked about it yeah we did I literally I was like dude I hope you eat [ __ ] and ass cuz if you don't we're going to have a Problem right out of the gate I was like I got an oral fixation so we're good we got this we got

yeah fun funny story was is we started dating long distance so we spent all this time talking to each other so we had like two or three weeks and it wound up being this weird thing where I met her family and she met my family and like that it was like 1948 like we met the families and we still had had sex so the first it was just like these like freak circumstances it Was just first circumstances so we're like it's building it's building building so like the first night we have sex I'm like you

know I'm a 50-year-old man and she's an adult film star we were like 16 old kids on freaking first date we were like trying to figure out how to get and it was and while I mean it was amazing it was it was wonderful but it was hysterical cuz we're like how are we like so nervous how we had been friends for a year and a half you had met I I Had met your family you had met my family we had been like talking and texting and like discussing like what we like in bed

and then you like get into the room together alone you're like oh God I hope this works there is a lot of pressure a lot of when you realize like you know like I think we both realize this might be it this might be the one and it's like the first time man you don't want to you don't want to make a bad repression so Like especially when you're the dude obviously there's a little more pressure on this generally you know how did you cope you all right big yeah years next fly colors I but

it was it was and we we always joke about it cuz we laugh cuz we really were nervous we were like really kind of like giddy nervous going into it and it's like how could this be possible and our first time I was like o do I give him the porn star experience or do I give him the Kira experience and what is the difference between the two when you're shooting porn it's it's I'm still [ __ ] and enjoying it but you're you're playing it up for the camera you know it's like you or

it's like when you're when you're intimate you know I'm not like oh my God [ __ ] me like you just don't do that really like out of the gate maybe in the maybe right before an orgasm like right out of the gate not so much so I think a woman who can perform A little bit in bed like if they've got that confidence and I don't mean like all the way to pawn level but just turn the volume person in real life but I don't it's it's authentic women with confidence are [ __ ]

Fant the hardest thing on the planet when a woman is like knows you they're confident with you that's when you're like okay we're good you know like cuz as men when you feel like you've got to make all the moves and do all of the like and do you feel Like it's confidence or do you feel like vocal cuz I feel like a lot of women just won't communicate what they want and I feel like a lot of people like oh you're a Confident Woman Like no I just told you that I want you to

bend me over [ __ ] me like that's just like me communicating I guess for me some women don't have the confidence to communicate true and it's it's difficult like it doesn't feel great when I I you're like guessing right yeah she it's not even That it's like she could be beautiful she could be everything you want but if you're not telling me you're in this moment with me then I'm just like I get what you're saying there's a disconnect there's it just doesn't work it just doesn't work put it down to shyness sometimes like

they just don't feel like they can be that that girl and don't get me wrong I've definitely brought it out with you got to say that I do shower them with praise that's all We that's all we want we just want to be told we're pretty that we [ __ ] great exactly tell a girl she has a pretty [ __ ] and she'll do anything cuz girls I I've never been a woman that was not insecure about her [ __ ] if you if a girl opens her legs and go damn you have a

really pretty [ __ ] that's it I guarantee she'll suck your [ __ ] guaranteed free free Price free free advice it's great advice well because some men don't think to say things like That like and it's not even that they're not thinking it they just don't want to say it cuz it's like what if I'm a creepy weirdo and again that's that's the that's the big problem right women want to be told things they are emotional and men are visual men are looking at it in their eyes but it's like say say use your

words bro use your words say something oh my God you know and guys don't we just don't if if like not to get too graphic on your show but Like even if like even if like if you're getting head and she's doing something that you enjoy [ __ ] tell her because for us it's like oh I love when you play with my balls great cuz I'm guessing down here so true I'm pulling and prodding and stroking and hoping that you like it but if you say like I love that or I love the way

your [ __ ] feels or I love the way you feel in this position or I like when you do this like for us we I'm sure Guys appreciate it too it's like I'm doing a good job it does help that's the biggest advantage I've got in life as being a talker and I've definitely used that in every Avenue of my life you know what I mean it does help for sure I was wondering if you either of you this is worry about your appearance generally speaking um do you think either of you is more

concerned with how you come across in public or are you talking about like appearance like looks or yeah Yeah that sort and I guess there's quite a bit of pressure on you because that's kind of your part of your job and I know you do a lot of photo shoots so that it kind of must be and you had a little yeah um I I'm obviously I just turned 34 and I got into porn when I was 21 so obviously like when you when you're over 30 you start to age and I'm not a big

botox filler person I don't know what the future holds but in this moment in time I'm not so I also it's like I look In the mirror and I I've watched myself age in 4k for [ __ ] I know as I check I'm like [ __ ] H yeah and like and I was trying to explain this actually to A girlfriend of mine the other day I'm like women take pictures of themselves and put on the internet and it's like just your face really okay I'm gon to wear a little like waist snatcher or

whatever so I like my I'm bent over a table and you Can see like my rolls and I'm like God okay well that's on the [ __ ] internet forever so it I I do struggle a little bit like I wouldn't say unhealthily but I'm not unhealthy like I'm like damn I got to start working out more you know the thing that I was sort of thinking about is when I met well when I first was introduced to your content you had the I don't know how to put this but in the UK we'd probably

say the girl next door look like familiar little bit Out Of Reach but possible yeah kind of we feel like we've known her before like you know and it was it was a a niche that you owned very much so and obviously you were so young and to be expected and as much as you've maintained your looks very well it's hard for a woman I think to be dealing with that level of scrutiny all the time and it's it's it's really tough and I've noticed even my content change changing I went from like girl next

door to now Like naughty housewife and like like I was saying like doing more femdom stuff like I'm more like womanly I still have a big ass and so but it is it's like okay like I'm like more body conscious like just from age like you as a woman if you're naked all the time on the Internet it's it's hard to see some some days I'm like yeah I shouldn't have eaten that pasta last night that doesn't look so good meanwhile like guys don't even care They're just like just show us your ass bend over

and jiggle it if you known for a big ass we want you to eat more I know yeah I'm like I'm cooking pasta every weekend I noticed my fans like it more when I'm thick and like me like being like a woman over 30 I'm like that's always that's always my comedy with her she's like there was stuff on the end table I'm like if they're looking at the end I know you're doing the content wrong hun just in case you're like like She's like oh my God and I'm like there's a pillow in the

scene I what are you talking about I was like my stockings ripped he goes no one's looking at that no one no it reminds me of like nearly every relationship I've been in the woman puts on a stone within a month of being with me cuz I'm like what's that oh that's the weight thing right yeah yeah stone is like we'll use anything sorry like4 I'm always like yeah have some More cuz I like women's thick you know I me too obviously yeah yeah I've definitely thickened up I would say from when but when I

was 21 I was like very small you know it's funny you say that because I'm I'm conscious of how I appear for her not because I give a [ __ ] but I want to I literally want to be like especially cuz I'm the porn star's husband so not only looks but attitude you have to kind of like develop a certain Persona when guys come up and It's like you know I I almost it's like you have to kind of be disarming a little bit you know they're fans you know they pay the bills they're

fans you look kind of scary like Vic kind of looks scary he's a little intimidating I feel I swear to God Vic has like a little bit of a mob boss type Look to Him get that a lot when he opens his mouth you're like oh my God this nicest guy ever like it doesn't a little bit like me apparently say you're totally Different to how you look if I saw you on the street I would like cross the street I'd be like that guy's going to kill me I was I was telling one of

your guys we talked to I Brian is great I said he's the guy you want in a B I go that's my friend yeah I said meanwhile he's like the nicest guy I've ever met in my life yeah yeah there was a viral clip of me jumping into a fight uh and my mate was about to get attacked and I'm like just straight in the middle of These guys like all right what the [ __ ] is going on so you're actually bang on about there's been quite a few porn stars who've came out in

the last few years who are Mega names like uh I wrote down Mia Khalifa Lana rhods uh Adriana Chek they've all been saying like how bad it was and how they regret it I get so [ __ ] pissed off well Kieran Kieran kind of was like they weren't saying that when they were on set paid why Kieran and I are friends I'm not so sure about C cuz I've seen her and I I haven't seen her really trash the industry but the other two are nightmares so there's there's a tweet from her um CU

she kind of put this out saying what if I told you that I hated that I did porn what if I told you that I hated my body is not my own I'm tired of being a product I'm not my own person that's really killing me I don't want to tell my truths because you'll use them Against me and then it sounds like she was just on her period maybe say yeah or or you know honestly or she might have had impostor syndrome where you know and we we've had this conversation before and and I

know my wife has Illustrated that maybe you shouldn't get in until you're 2122 yeah that there's that point time and a lot of times they get in and you frontal lobe isn't fully developed you you maybe you make decisions you might not have Made later on and you regret the decisions but don't turn around and say it was the industry's fault I get really pissed off when I see those stories because well well Mia and Lana were Mega stories like they they did quite a lot of damage with those because they are the most famous

you set the industry back 10 years 20 years because you made bad choices and people talked you into things and now you're bitter about it it's like I had such a great experience In porn I loved it I still love it I had I loved everyone I shot with I never felt trapped I never felt tricked into anything but I had the balls to say it I had the balls to say no I don't want to do that no I don't want to work with that person no I don't but people like okay well maybe

I'll do this and okay well maybe I'll do that and oh I'll do you know I'll do it for the money or I'll take the check and get a new lou bag and then they turn around 10 years Later and they're like I hate my life I Hate My Life Choices I hate what I did on the internet well maybe if you had [ __ ] checked in with yourself every two seconds and made sure it's something you actually wanted to do you wouldn't have been in this [ __ ] situation so don't turn around

and then blame the porn industry for something because you made bad choices in life accountability is a big I get pissed he like everything is somebody else their mother's faults Their father's fault that because the job's fault that's who's working for no it's all your fault it's also it's also like they're all victims of circumstance everybody's a victim porn is such an easy jab it's the same thing like oh well she's just a [ __ ] [ __ ] it's just an easy oh well porn was so bad to me it's like no it wasn't

it's not the modest thing about it it's great I love it I can't say enough nice things in the industry you see Lana Rhods or Mia Khalifa using their real names oh they they're still riding off the name aren't they exactly and that's the how horrible was it then or and it's also like okay do you just need another press story yeah are you just sit talking [ __ ] so that you get press meanwhile all of us that are still in the industry and loving it and working hard and have nothing but success stories

and happy memories now everyone looks at us looks down at us because you Made bad choice or you want to be in some news article you feed into the crazy extremists who want to like put a put a taboo on it like it's 1970 and somebody just got off the bus from ovar and they loaded them up with drugs and they sent them out to do porn and this is not you know these those are long ago days this is a corporate it's business and my wife has said repeatedly when you do porn it's it's

it's a life sentence period there's no if she cured cancer Tomorrow it would be porn star cures cancer xor s cures cancer the problem is is some people don't want that anymore so they they want to switch it off and they want to figure out how to get out of it and the only way to figure out how to get out of it is go they victimized me I didn't want to do this it wasn't really me I only did it for 6 months even though you were out there for four years it's like come

on I can't I can't speak about Lana and Mia because I don't Know them but I can't tell you how many people that I know that don't even read contracts that don't pay read the script before they get to set that don't do the homework on the male Talent or the female talent and then they wonder why they get in the situation it's like you agree to things without even doing any research and then it's like oh well I'm mad because you know I did a scene and I was wearing braces it's like say no

no one is forcing you nobody has you chain To a wall you are making every decision in porn you you have the ability at any moment in time to say no and you choose not to and it feels like specifically with those two girls they have made some of the most money in hisory from porn from porn like let's not without porn you guys would be [ __ ] nobody's right you wouldn't be doing anything and it it helped you have a beautiful life but I feel like it's a case of wanting your cake and

eat it like absolutely you you Want to be in a situation where you have millions and millions of pounds I mean I know these women are like so rich from porn are they um well la I was from what I understood I how do you know have you seen her bacon cow a there's a lot of [ __ ] well I might be wrong but I knew um I knew a guy who dated her and he was driving around a Lamborghini with her that she just bought a Lamborghini he was like this girl's got a

lot of money so let's just say for the case of For the sake of AR for what she's trying to put across you got a beautiful life out of it well you everything comes with consequences so you you can't make that decision to do this to get all of that and then complain about what comes with it when you let's not let's not act like people who get into por and aren't away it's not like a big surprise like oh my God people judge me like yeah that's why I pay so well I I literally

think one of the two of them actually said when I got Into porn I didn't realize I was going to have to have sex oh God I literally I I swear to you I read that and I'm and I'm looking at the I was like are seriously yeah it's hard because I try not to if you look at my social media I really try not to get into any like political debates industry debate I really try to stay out of it but in those situations it's hard to watch that especially when you're when I'm so

proud of doing porn like being part of the Porn industry so to hear someone just bash it based upon bad decisions you're just like are you kidding me are you like you're going to you you're going to switch sides but yeah you still go by your stage name you're still having only fans you're still taking checks you're still getting checks from pornh Hope yeah so is it really that bad or you just bitter about it did you did you wipe did you did you call PornHub and say take all my content down cuz they Would

if you told them not to take it down did you you still on only fans are you still using the name are you still profiting off the name come on yeah come on it's a shame it's a shame because that horrible change your name and it doesn't matter who anytime these stories come out and girls you know use them for attention it's just it's it's sad it's really sad and you know am I saying the industry is perfect no of course there's a small amount of things that could Happen or you know small circumstances I'm

not going to sit here and say it's all like rainbows and [ __ ] butterflies everywhere but you have to have a good strong head about it you have to be smart you have to do the research you have to make sure that what choices you make in life set you up for your future don't just agree to everything make bad choices and then look for somebody else to blame that's when I get pissed having done PR for a Long time I've done PR for just about every form of entertainment you could possibly imagine literally

from priests to to to politicians in every form of entertainment there's a CD side every single one okay and you know it's like they always talk about oh my God suicides important yeah how we want to run through the list of musicians who have committed suicide and you know even wrestlers W and and a lot of times it's consequences of choices you you made a choice you made a consequential choice you went out there you did something and then you want to regret it and blame it and the worst part about it is is what

you're doing isn't just trying to defend yourself you're screwing a lot of other people you're you're literally screwing you're hurting a lot of people you're hurting their ability to earn a living you're hurting their employees you're Hurting a lot of people even like you know like the mainstream people that go on only fans and like scam fans that hurts us the people that don't scam fans when you say scum how do you mean I can't think of the girl's name it's but she wasn't in porn she was um I think she was just like a

main main former Disney star not matlyn Ward who's who's a sweetheart but she went out and she charged like $1,000 and you know a couple years ago yeah she got a whole The only fans had to change the policies because of it she got a whole bunch of money and then didn't deliver anything that she promised meanwhile now people are afraid to use only fans because they're afraid that we're going to scam them you know so it's like consequences also affect the people around you so I think one of the hardest things that I've become

aware of after interviewing uh people like yourselves and Kieran Kieran said something really deep which Was like people treat him like he is a danger to children MH yeah like and that really was kind of hard to CU you know Kieran like he's he's nice guy yeah actually gives me chills because he's like the nicest guy he told me this sad story about how obviously he's a big football fan yeah he got this kid who I I want to say was in a really bad Health situation he got this kid football tickets oh and he

he got great tickets cuz he's friends with the club yada yada Y and um the I think the family who of the kid were like we don't want people knowing it was you who got our sick little boy football tickets because of what you're associated with you did the right thing yeah I'm not saying yeah it's do you have you experienced anything where you're like I'm being treated as if I'm a really bad yeah yeah personally I don't even I don't even asso I don't have any kids I don't want kids um I will ply

say I've actually had You know friends that have had kids that I have had to say I can't go to this event or I can't because I don't feel like it would be appropriate because someone's going to see who I am and assume oh the oh the porn star is here there's a porn star over there that's not appropriate it's like meanwhile I'm in like this sitting there just like not by minding my own business I'm like you only know I'm a porn star cuz you watch my scenes but that's another Conversation um how do

you know yeah I get a lot of I get a lot of like just blind judgment for it um and it's you know it's you just have to take it like if you're going to judge me without knowing me that I'm not going to change your mind no matter what I say so I would just hope that you would get to know me as a person before you just like judge me for my career choices and I feel fortunate cuz I have a job that I love like how many people get to do Something that

they genuinely love and are you know financially successful from it so that's the thing that surprised me about you is it wasn't really about the money and the way it was about the [ __ ] no but but like you say this and like when I first heard it I was like yeah sure but the more I've gotten to knowy you and The more I've seen I've done so much research on you after two interviews and watching you two guys together I'm like yeah she doesn't Really have to do this anymore like I don't think

you actually need to do it anymore I just enjoy it I just I'm still enjoying it you got businesses going left Center and that that's always been my that's that's always my problem with the people come out it's like there are ways to do it obviously we are living example there are ways to do it where you can take your name start businesses phase out of the industry do the right thing and not screw everybody yeah Figuratively not literally figuratively screw everybody who literally worked with you and helped you out and maybe helped your career

helped you build your name and then you go out the door and punch him in the head on your way out the door I don't care how much you Trash Talk the industry it's not going to go away yeah and no one's going to accept you you've ever been to Pompei they I mean there like on the wall but not even that like I think people you know maybe Some people think that if they leave the industry and they trash it it'll get erased from their yeah from their history it's not going away if anything

everyone can be a pawn star now literally it's a bit like being a celebrity that's that's the other problem I feel like especially with only fans is I feel like a lot of people assume that if I make an only fans I'm going to make millions of dollars and it doesn't work like that yeah it doesn't And like that's the other thing is like I I I want to communicate like okay you're making a life choice you might not make millions of dollars so is it worth it to you to deal with all this [

__ ] and all this like you know blind judgment and all you know have yourself on the internet forever is it going to be worth it for you if you only make a couple thousand the fun part going to be something you enjoy or CU if you're Doing it for the money it's not the right choice yeah you really the bizarre part too is everybody thinks that I'm attractive male or female going to drop my clothing do 20 minutes to work and make a billion dollars if they took two days to watch what my wife

has to do every day not just you know the 20 minutes of shooting she's got alarms on her phone when she has to post she engages with fans she's got to upload you got to edit content you have then we Have all the other businesses that we do all of that stuff it's we work constantly to maintain this not working looking lifestyle and and these guys don't grasp that you're not just going to drop your clothes and make money you better bust your yes you better work hard everything requires hard work everything requires hard work

and no one has patience anymore we live in an instant gratification and that's she always laughs she goes you're the most Patient person I know it's like when we wanted to create the underwear that we we sent to you guys took us two years to do that very good underway by the way yeah thank you but it took us two years to do that and my wife went nuts making sure that the band was perfect and it fit I love the what it say remove to [ __ ] yeah but it's like quality stuff high

quality and she wanted it to be that way most people 3 weeks in would have dumped it The the the content game whatever kind of content you're creating it's a lot harder than people understand for sure it's whatever goes on off camera aot is the hard bit and I remember I spoke to a cam girl once who explain to me like I am up at night for hours and hours talking to these guys when they're coming in from a nightclub night and I'm trying to keep going and grinding and she was like I am exhausted

I sleep the day away I get up have aof and I'm back On the internet all night and that really hit me I was like [ __ ] that sounds hard and you're talking to guys who were drunk like you know they're asking and she said like they'd ask her for like this freaked me out actually cuz she was like they one of them asked her for like inappropriate pictures of her when she was younger those are the ones there's a little bit of like not a little there's a lot of mental with it too

because you have to deal with that I've had I've gotten like people show up to my house death threats stalkers weird questions like you're ring yourself way too quickly would they people show up the yeah we had we had we had a stalker outside our house in Manhattan for almost 3 weeks and it was a woman it was actually a woman we we've had the whole what kind of woman was this and why was she there uh we think communicate no we we we had to call the cops and we had to get them most

of this stuff stems from Like a lot of those romance scams and Ghana scam stuff oh can we can we explain that because I know we touched on it last time but for those who don't know you have so many many millions of followers who and there's a lot of them who want to contact you and there's people who are praying on them pretending to be you to get money out of them is that correct correct and is there any more information that it's actually gotten worse because um Instagram now because of the verification what

people are doing is getting a an account verified with whatever their ID is and their whatever the face is and then they switch it to my name and my face but they stay verified right and then they go in as a verified account and they're pretending to talk to my fans like oh this is my super secret personal account um you know I'm make [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] story whether it's like I'm leaving Vic Or I want to be with you or I'll fly out and [ __ ] you or

you just send me all this money and then this all your magical dreams will come true I I guarantee you at some point in one of your comments it's going to say that's an old interview they're not really together anymore Oscar wild said it's easier to fool somebody than convince them they've been fooled and that is the the most accurate quote I've ever heard in my entire life because once people Start paying into this there's a there's a feeling inside like it can't be fake because then I've been screwed and I have to believe and

they keep sinking more money into it I just had someone me said they thought they were with me for the last six years six years never met her face to face six years you've got problems have no no but like I mean you want to be scammed there's no sympathy yeah like we've had six Christmases I've not seen You yet yeah right exactly I've not seen you at all I me six birthdays six I mean you know wild but even if it's how much money are we talking about millions millions i' I found out about

that lost $150,000 and you said in total it's like millions millions and millions and millions ofar a year and millions a year and that's just her that's not including like Elsa genene who's also and there's many other people in the industry it it's they can find you know obviously Nude photos of the these girls online so you can create an intimate relationship most of the people that they're going after are not I look very Girl Next Door very girl next door like you were saying earlier so it's I have an unlimited amount of nude content

photos videos um that you can use to pretend to have a relationship Jesus when you put it like that especially now that I'm shooting at home and I'm on my couch and I'm in my bed and I'm not you know cuz if the guy Goes send me a picture of you drinking coffee we can find that yeah easy but but send me some nudes even better yeah and and if I get one I get 20 emails a week going you know you're not really with her uh You' stolen all her money you better get it

back where I'm going to call the police and I'm usually writing back going please please call the police please please get them involved please but I mean it's weird thing it's gotten crazy we we had a Policemen show up at our door this this true story I'm out back like doing something and the person knocks on the door and they're like hi I have the Miami Police Department on the phone we need to talk to you about your daughter and so so I freaked out so she that they met my daughter my real daughter yeah

and she was like oh my god daughter went to Miami she got a car accident something orble the guy wanted to know about her three-year-old daughter well We don't have any kids your three-year-old daughter is in danger this is a police officer police officer like you're detective detect you know help us out here bro I don't have any kids oh well we got this this call I'm like you didn't think to like do your little laptop for 5 seconds and figure out that I don't have any kids why would somebody do that well are you

sitting cuz we're going to tell you the story and you could see the poor police Officer in our town is like going oh I'm so sorry like he's looking at us like it's but that's I mean we've dealt with this over and over and and she said repeatedly she goes of all of the things that I expected in porn this was not it this was the this is by far the most difficult thing in porn that I was not prepared for and our biggest issue is we can't get any help now we've we've contacted and

talked to like the FBI and stuff they're almost powerless because It's overseas they can't really do anything but we can't get the social media platforms to take the fake accounts down yet they'll they'll knock her account down every six months well because of the content yeah but you've seen her content my page it's it's it's well s yeah I do pretty I do a pretty like however the fake pages will put up the wildest [ __ ] they'll find the old scenes and put it up and we can't get them to take the accounts down

even Though she's a verified account we can't get them to take the accounts down we're like all there's no privacy aspect when you join a social media platform it would literally take them two seconds they can probably write an AI script that looks into the DMS and seems them asking for money from people and just wipe the account that's all you have to do just wipe the account out nope not a damn not help at all and it screws a lot of people there are a lot of people Losing a lot of money and then

we have to wor feel bad I feel bad like I get it it's a it's funny it's like oh they're an idiots they should evolve for it but there are people that just spend couple bucks here couple hundred bucks there maybe they think they're getting you know a scene of mine maybe they think they're I don't know paying for me to go out and suck their dick whatever [ __ ] lie they sold but it's like it's I feel bad it's like you fall for These scams and I'm trying to help but I like I've

seen you post repeatedly about this and youve tried to put the word out at a s just yeah yeah and and you know it's and I know a lot of times she gets really upset because they are using her image to take money from people who can't afford to lose the money and it and it's stings a bit and you know you got to get a you get a little thick skinned about it because well like we have tried I can't even tell you like Every podcast we start off she'll she'll State the date and

go I'm still married to Vic and we still can't get don't fall for scammers it's literally in the bio of my Instagram it says don't fall for scammers pretending to be me and I still get it and then they'll at some point I'm like I put up my hands and I'm like I don't know what else to do this is is my full-time job like wow it could be a full-time job and we talked to years ago talked to a guy from the FBI and he said Oh he goes if you think you you've got

10,000 he goes we have 10,000 a day he goes it's constant and it's all usually coming out of West Africa and they have boiler rooms of people there and up on a bulletin board somewhere it says everybody today is Elsa jeene and they all go out there and they have like a bunch of different things and it's all the same stories my dad died I'm stuck in Ghana I'm going to nursing school my husband beat me it's all the same [ __ ] you would T sister that's a big one twin sister that was my

favorite twin sister don't a twin sister for the record doesn't have any siblings important to say I don't feel like I should have to say that but now I feel like I do I mean this isn't an admirable thing they're doing but on on the one hand I'm kind of like [ __ ] hell these guys are grinding and they're the best profile they're better profilers than the FBI They know exactly which guys to I follow like if I make a friend and I follow them on my porn account on my porn Instagram they will

instantly get like 30 fake Danny Daniels accounts that follows them that tries to like them up yeah no no I'm not just saying this by I've had 20 to 50 of of your versions of you and I've had DMS I'm like this is [ __ ] so weird and and the thing is is you're not even really the t i I said To them I'm not actually true Jord I'm his twin brother that's what you should do from now if you send me $5,000 you can me the real and it's it's it's ins it's insane

that you have to get to that point you're not really the target a lot of times what they'll do is they'll find you know a guy who's a little bit older obviously looks like he's lonely or something and they'll look at their bio and God forbid he commented cuz we've got them send it to Us they'll be like I saw you commented on my page and I thought you were really cute and now my comments are going to go down on Instagram thanks VI this is my this is my super secret page and we can

chat here just don't tell my husband it's like I think I'd be really good at picking those guys up I know it's not a nice quality but I can spot a loser my and so can they and so can they and a lot of times these guys I mean I feel Bad of times these guys are lonely and I've gotten messages and I'd probably say about 70 or 80% realize they got screwed and they're actually nice about 20% can get really up IM your mess oh God your messaging the husband of the woman you think

is going to fly over the sea and you're like so you're still with her then literally literally hey by the way I just want to know um are you and Danny still together yes um well I've been getting this you're not talking to Her but she sent me these photos I'm like dude they're everywhere yeah it's like you you can get them for a lot less than 5 grand if you sign up to my only fans yeah exactly and and the bizarre part too is it's like I almost want to type back and go you

knew you knew deep down you knew cuz you wouldn't have messaged me if you didn't realize that there was something going on but and it's sad because some of these guys like I feel bad for them I really do they actually come back later on you find out I don't know they lost their wife or something happened and like they were just lonely guys who got prayed upon by you know scammers and I mean it's just like like they pray upon Elderly with banks scams the same [ __ ] going about the humiliation stuff you

mentioned earlier I've heard about people who like this the financial domination those are my other Favorit yeah keep those are my other favorite yeah we love the financial domination love it I love a man's wallet anytime but at least those guys know what they're getting into right I think I was unaware that I was actually in one of those relationships for quite a while I just didn't know it but what the [ __ ] like what kind of messages will those guys send you like what and what are they what are they wanting cuz I

don't obviously I've got No idea why a man would want that but oh I love it it's like um they want to buy me things they want me to make a wish list and they want to buy me what's on the wish list and they want me to have control of their wallet and decide you know how much play money they get you know if their paycheck is I don't know off the top of my head two $2,000 okay well I'm going to spend you know ,800 of it and figure out how to use the

next you know two weeks on 200 bucks that's So so scary but but this again this is consent this isn't me like taking a fan and trying to like screw him over this is a fan coming to me and being like I want you to control my wallet I want you to dominate me financially I'm like say oh I love a dirty man is there a worry cuz the reason this worries me is to me if someone said to me if some anyone came up like let's just say a woman on she was on the

other I want you financially that will be that'll be the [ __ ] day I'll never that will never be women will never but let's just say it happened I'd be like this [ __ ] is crazy I I some people will like take credit card info or like debit card info I won't because I just I'm like it's just too much of a a line for me so I have a wish list and I just go go to my wish list and buy me those shoes um take me Shopping like I'll have like a

little like oh like you know spend this much money and I go shopping with it or buy me that I want that for a scene or you know get me that new kitchen a mixer so I'll like make them they have to do it and that's just like my own personal like Comfort um but I know I know plenty of dominatrixes that'll be like yeah give me your credit card info good luck that would scare me that I that they I don't know if these women are thinking Along the lines that I am in terms

of like consciously about the circumstances that where you're then putting that M but how do you but I'm or the ciran you're putting yourself in when they decide to report it as credit card for it I'm not face to face with this person and I don't know what his real circumstances he might be playing a character just like I am he might be like I have $500 to spend and I just want you know I want to pretend it's my Last $500 and I want her to like you know just you know degrade me and

use me and not give me any attention so I don't know and that's also why I like to use the wish list aspect because I feel like for them they are now in control it's their choice then much like only fans you you know you're paying for that excitement or whatever whereas if you give a woman a credit card deals and she just [ __ ] yeah like what if I just like swiped it for first of all I feel Like that's some sort of illegal something somewhere down the line and then like if I

just like go and swipe his card for five grand it's like I don't know what his actual I don't want to actually hurt this guy I just want him to like enjoy it and get off on it and pay me for it like do you think this just I I'm wondering at what point do they get off on it like do they like say the statement and be like oh God so I think everyone's a little bit different Yeah that's so much money how am I going to eat this week but they're like enough over

that like but some guys too will like they like seeing me in what they bought so like they they enjoy like buying me the lingerie because I wear it in a scene and they and then they jerk off to it that makes sense too so it depends there's different there's different there's makes sense I would do that but yeah it I I kind of it makes more sense Than just looking at their screen and watching their bank balance kept annihilated know mean I have a lot of guys that like can I please give you my

credit card info and I have have to tell them no just from for personal Comfort but I that's a smart thing yeah yeah I don't know just it's like I don't know there's no safe word with like my shoe addictions so yeah you know if if if uh let's say uh a woman who you happen to know came to you let's say she's just Working a normal job I'm sure there might be a woman watching this right now who might be considering this what sort of um reasons to do it and reasons to not do

it would only find um would you think about only fans like you know do do it if you want to do it for this reason if it's for this do not do it like is there anything you well first I would say like what do you want to do on only fans because you can you don't have to take your clothes off at all you can Just do domination you can just like what we were saying you could just do femdom um you could you know ever some of them don't take their clothes up yeah

depend no it depends on that like some performers they do like foot fetish you know latex maybe they just only do latex maybe they do um just jerk off instruction r play dirty talk so not everyone needs to get nude but it's like if you go that rout okay well why are you doing porn if this if you're going To go the porn route are you doing it because you enjoy it are you doing it because you want to explore it okay what is your current job is that going to affect it is how are

you going to feel when your all of your family and your friends find out because they will absolutely how are you going to feel if you know it comes up in conversation because it will how are you going to feel like if you get judged blindly because you will and it's like I would It if those things didn't exist but they will because that's the reality of the situation of the world we live in Riley Reed came out and spoke about how she'd just been basically disowned by most of her family happens a lot it

was brutal I was watching it like it happens a lot unfortunately it's like it's it's it's sad it's there's a bizarre thing too where the family all of a sudden has a problem until they start making a lot of money and then they're fine with getting The money from she kind of said I don't know if you heard that bit she said her mother was on the take like oh I'm cool if you're giving me some yeah it's like wow yeah that's really it's sad but that happens a lot and friends and everyone finds out

about it you know when I first started doing and now it's a little bit different because only fans but they'll still find it everyone's like oh well you know you have to sign up no someone's going to find it someone's Going to think it's hilarious and send it to all of your friends that's such a good thing to point out though it because it is like that is the norm right like that you be you become a pub story you know something to laugh about oh when I started doing like mainstream porn and the people

I went to high SCH with found out about it my phone literally went like dink dink dink dink dink dink D CU you could just sell it just like threw the grap Vine like if I Found out someone I knew was doing pora I would tell everybody about it because it was me it would just like oh my god did you hear about so and so like sucking dick good for her like you know so one of the main main things that's happening in America especially right now is people in regular jobs are getting exposed

so we're talking nurses teachers and even someone who was running for office got exposed was being on chat bit with her fell and she's Trying to be a politician she was good looking politician as politicians politicians [ __ ] you every day so you might as well be on only fans like J it would be amazing if we lived in a world where you could do only fans and and these sites and still have you know your job of you know but it we don't live in that world and I feel like people have this

fantasy in their head that oh I hate my job let's just say I don't know you work at a coffee shop I hate my job At a coffee shop I'm going to do only fans on this side I'm going to make a bunch of money and I'm going to quit my job and be able to do only first of all porn's not forever so I hope you're saving the money and not just like blowing it on Lou bags second of all if it doesn't work out you're going to have to go back to that job

if they'll even have you like when you find out about like teachers doing only fans I'm like you're working with kids and you're Surprised you got fired from your job like this isn't the you know we don't live in this like like fantasy land that you think and you're not going to make as much money that you think you're going to make unless you grind and hustle and work you know full this isn't like a suck a dick for an hour and go home and have wine you know and do you think that there's a

direct correlation between the amount of money you make and the things you're willing to do yeah Maybe yeah well I think a lot of the time for people definit the porn stars that I have become familiar with are the ones who you know if you have a thing oh are you saying like the aspect of like oh I'll do butt stuff for like 5 mil is it like that is price tag on it the the women who seem to be higher up in these porn categories seem to be getting gang bang by 10 dude like

there's no limit with them girls I haven't done a gang bang and I'm top 25 I mean that is true But is that a rareity yes yes and no though because you have like like bry's on there and she's never done butd stuff okay so there's two no there's if you go for if you go through that if you go through that top 25 you'll see it's more likely that there's one of every category there's a skinny girl there's a blonde girl there's an you know an African-American girl there's an Asian girl there's you know

a girl next door There's more likely to be that and some of them have limits they they haven't gone over the edge and then there are many people who go over the edge and can't crack inh some of it has to do with a little bit of an X Factor like or do you involve your fans in more than just your porn because if you don't you're going to go up and the moment that they're bored with your porn you're going to go right back down I think it's also I did mainstream porn for 6

years I Was on browsers and Pen I was a Penthouse Pet and I did all of these different mainstream like sites I didn't just like start an only fans and in Instagram with no following and start making millions of dollars a year so I think that's the the Dynam like I the people always say like oh my God how did you get so popular I'm like I've been in this industry for 1 13 years grinding for 13 years you're not just you don't just like you take your panties off and Like get instant Fame it

doesn't work like that yeah I think it's sold as that and and then when you talk about the X Factor there's also like and I don't know if this is just me but I think other dudes are like this as well like sometimes the prettiest porn stars you're a bit like me but then there's ones with clear personality who are putting everything into it and they make you feel like almost you're in the room sort of thing you know and I think those Girls definitely seem to to do really well I want to ask you

a little bit at the end now about the age capap between you cuz I think that is quite an interesting thing to deal with and um what is the Agee Gap okay so you guys seem like clearly twps in a pod and I think anyone who's watched to this point will just get that it's you know you're double act um but but do you think about the long term and you know like one day you will be on Your own after this and how have you made peace with that and how do you feel about

that the pair of you uh we stick our head in the sand and pretend doesn't exist yeah a little bit a little bit a little bit in reality yeah we do we do have had some conversations about it and and the running joke is is she's going to be stuck with my kids when she gets older but um yeah I mean we're the we're we're literally the same distance that Lauren ball and Humphrey bogar war and You know obviously he died young but that was like one of the greatest Hollywood love stories of all time

and it helps that I'm Juvenile and she's not so we get we get much closer yeah much closer in age Gap when she's an older soul and I'm basically a child in an adult's body so I guess it's one of those things where it's like would you just tell some not be with someone because you're the fear of being alone what if I die first yeah that's not Happening God I hope I die first I don't want to deal with that that be I'd be so sad like yeah the the reason I brought it up

is when I was thinking about it's it's one of those awkward things to deal with in life and a lot of couples do I mean like older guys with younger women is the most normal thing but I just wondered where if you given it much thought and if there was like you know if this happens here's what we're going to do or have you talked like that or Yeah we' we've talked about like Estate Planning and wills and that kind of thing and I mean I think you have to do that when you're with somebody

for long enough you have to kind of figure out like Hey listen you know you never know what's going to happen like something happens you know you never know but I I didn't even think about the age Gap until people started bringing it up all the time and then like even now I don't even think about It until these conversations come up I'm like oh yeah like at some point you know but I would never trade it for anything oh I'm not suggest not at all CLE that you wouldn't yeah but it's no it's just

like it's just like surreal you're like yeah you know someday like I just wonder I just hope I go first let's say that you don't go first which obviously statistically more like do you think you would you know you you've had your marriage in your life and you'd be like That was my great love of my life right but would you do you think you'd go on and meet other people and just sort of I don't think or do you think You' just be like nah that's it for me no I don't think so yeah

I don't I mean I don't even said I'm going out when you die I'm just going to go and be like gang bangs every day just line them up know I'm just kidding I'm just kid you know how some some husbands are like I either don't want you to go and be With other people and have company or I I do or whatever yeah I wouldn't care like if I di go out go get some [ __ ] like live your best life yeah I think I'm in the same boat as you I don't think

I would I mean I don't know it's like you don't know what Life deals yeah it's I had a relative years ago once told me Death is certain life is not so go out and live go out and live and I took that to heart a long long time ago and I started realizing man if you go Through life trying to figure out when you're going to drop dead or when the next shoe is going to drop you're going to drop de the next Sho is going to drop that's just what's going to happen but

if you go through life trying to live it at least then you have something when it's all over and done with you know you can look back and go that was a life worth living uh not a life that I wish I had done 5,000 other things and I learned really early on in life through Through a decision that the the things you regret most in life are the things you don't do you know the things you do do is like at least I gave it a shot and and this is like you know I'm

I'm older and I'm hoping I last for a very long time but at least I've had this period of my life and it's the happiest time of my life so wow I sucked his dick for that and and that that was so beautiful and you Ruined all right that that genuinely was such a nice thing to hear and it was probably one of the nicest things we've had said on this podcast well done brother thank you he definitely getting laid there's a poet in there um what a beautiful performance from you too thank you very

much um smashed it that was once again Danny Daniels and her husband Vic chipa chipa there we go on the true Jordie podcast appreciate everyone who watched you can check these guys out Follow them they're everywhere millions of followers and we'll see you on the next one [Music] [Music] cheers