Rob Skiba FULL Presentation - FLATOBERFEST October 20, 2019

[Music] the following is a flashback presentation from flober Fest 2019 the very first flober Fest this event took place Sunday October 20th 2019 featuring Bob noell of globebusters Mark Sargent the creator of the Flat Earth Clues Joshua Swift of authentic intent and Rob skeba our keynote speaker this presentation is Rob's Presentation from that event the video from this event is not the best but we do have a very good audio recording and some lowquality video to go with it but I do hope that you will enjoy this presentation because it is Rob ska's fulllength uncensored

presentation about the Flat Earth enjoy okay everybody we are getting ready to have Rob skba start his Presentation um well while we make sure that everybody who wants to watch this gets in here it's the first time Rob's been able to do his presentation for full three hours all slides all video uncut [Applause] uncensored and so people still filing in [Music] Um ladies and gentlemen Rob ska thank you thank you Karen all right you guys enjoying the conference so far wonderful um before we begin I would kind of like to see what my audience is

here um maybe the easiest thing for me to ask is how many of you are not familiar with my work could you raise your hand a few people okay so most of you Are familiar with my work um yeah Karen's right I was excited that this is the first time I get to actually present a PowerPoint presentation that I put together without having to edit it usually when I create PowerPoint presentations I have what I really want to say and then I look at my time limit and I go hack hack hack hack hack I

get like a third of what I would like to present uh and then I get the directors cut on YouTube so my hour and a half Conference presentations turn into four hours on YouTube so this time I'm going to uh hopefully go through the whole presentation uncut and do it within the time limit got 120 slides with 52 minutes worth of video throughout them so got a lot to go through here um for those of you who are familiar with my work a lot of this is going to be repetitive you've heard it before um

but I you know sometimes I think it's good for us to hear things more than once I Know I like to hear things more than once for it to really sink in but honestly I'm really making these presentations for those people who don't know anything about this stuff it's really for them you know a lot of times people will bring their friends and family they don't have any clue what this is all about you know they think you're crazy and all that so it's really it's for it's for them so if you'll bear with me

on the things that are Repetitive um we'll go ahead and get started here the title of my presentation is testing the globe subtitle taking a disturbing trip down the rabbit hole with a focus on a question of Origins and I always tell people look don't believe a thing I say all right don't believe me just listen take notes if you want to go home and research these things you know search and see if these things be true a little bit about Myself uh things that influence my wife my life well my wife is one of

the things that influen my my life she's watching I think uh praying for me back home so hi Sheila everybody say hi Sheila hi Sheila all right um my parents certainly had a huge influence on my life growing up my family is very close I didn't have a picture here with my sister I have one younger sister um our family's been very close I grew up in a Christian family my Dad was a Baptist Minister when I was a kid and as a result I was exposed to the Bible from as old as I can

remember you know from a very young age um and anytime the church doors were open I was there I accepted Christ as my savior at age 7 in 1977 the same year that movie came out and and you know those of you who remember that moment when that ship came overhead that was something else right and uh radically had it impact on my Life I made a public declaration at age8 I said I will be an astronaut an actor or filmmaker or dead by the time I'm 30 and I actually made a public declaration wrote

it all out and it wasn't that I had a death wish it's just when you're 8 years old 30 is like ancient history right it you know for me it was like if I didn't achieve those goals by the time I was was 30 would have to be because I was dead that was my mindset and Jim Irwin came through town and came to our Little Baptist Church and signed a picture of him allegedly on the moon said reach for your dreams Rob aim high and so I'm showing you all this to say before we

get into the rest of this topic there was no incentive whatsoever for me to even think about wanting to get into this subject much less travel the world talking about it very publicly there was nothing in my upbringing that would have prepared me for this quite the opposite in fact just to prove how Much of a Star Trek Star Wars scii geek I was uh that's a picture of me 18 years old a week like a day before I went to Army boot camp look at my bed sheets Star Wars bed sheets right 18 years

old yeah um join the Army to uh follow my dad's Footsteps in many ways um but it was step one in my goals to getting into the space program I wanted to fly Helicopters first because I had learned supposedly the astronauts had to learn how to fly helicopters before they could fly the lunar Landers and my dad was a helicopter pilot so I followed in his footsteps and before I flew them I figured out you know I would want to know how they work first so I went to helicopter mechanic school first became a helicopter

crew chief SL door gunner and then eventually two years after a boot camp went through flight school and Then flew Scout helicopters for the remainder of my time in the military uh soldier of the year 1991 like Rah R you know Joe Patriot uh and hardcore science fiction fan to the point where even in my 20s I was going to Star Trek conventions and dressing up no less to do so uh hanging out with the actors from the various TV series so again there was nothing in my upbringing that prepared me for this subject In

order to get into the subject I found very quickly that first you really have to take the red pill how many of you know what I'm talking about there yeah if you're still sucking on the blue pill forget it this is there's no way you're going to be able to receive anything that's being spoken about here at this conference um for me taking the red pill really goes back to about 2006 I was a missionary at that time I Was flying to Kazakhstan and I was on a flight 14-hour flight listening to the guys behind

me talk about how 911 was an inside job the whole flight now I didn't say or do anything but trust me I was fuming mad I wanted to go back there and strangle these people how dare you right I volunteered for Desert Storm three times you know the before you all this and then after 911 happened I was like okay where I I was already out I was like where do I sign up I'm going back In let's turn the whole Middle East into a glass factory right that was sort of our mentality at the

time and so when I got got back from that trip I was like I'm I was determined to prove those guys wrong even though I never see them again uh and then I stumbled across uh I saw a faen height 911 which just made me mad then I watched Fen hype 911 which calmed me down but it didn't answer my questions and then I eventually stumbled Across Loose Change how many of you guys see Loose Change yeah that was the beginning of my world falling apart like that I thought I knew um and then eventually

I became a published author had a couple books become Amazon bestell that put me on the speaking circuit traveling all over the world talking about various things and realizing very quickly that we live in a sea of lies about a great many things and Robbie Davidson says you know when It comes to this subject that we're talking about here at this conference you really kind of got to feel other people out first where are they with 9911 where where are they with the moonlandings if they believe in either one of those things forget it talk

about sports walk away just it's not worth getting into conversation they're on blue pill you know uh these are some of the movies that had an impact in my life the documentaries regarding 911 if you Haven't seen them you should check them out uh and then a few years later uh in the course of my research uh for my first book Babylon Rising come to find out all of our presidents are related to each other like I was like Joe hardcore Rock the vote very politically active kind of guy I was all behind Ron Paul

at the time and I saw what happened to him I started questioning things and then come to find out all of our presidents are not only related to each other but They're related to one guy King John Lain the signer of the Magna Carta who also created the Lord mayor parade that honors Nephilim Giants how many of you guys know are familiar with my Nephilim research so I'd already done a lot of research on the nephlim these are the Giants of the ancient world and the gods of antiquity and this guy Jing King John lackin

starts a parade uh that still takes place in the UK even to this day and all of our presidents are related to Each other and related to him so then you start thinking and other characters like Vlad the Impaler stuff um you we're taught that presidents are right of the people for the People by the people right well what the what would the statistical odds be that if that was true that all of our presidents would Happ to be related to each other in one guy I very quickly began to realize this whole thing's rigged

you know the government that whole thing corrupt and Just full of lies then of course you started thinking what about the Apollo moonlandings of course I wanted to be an astronaut I believed in all that stuff but then I stumbled across Bart sell's videos there funny thing that happened on the way to the moon and astronauts gone wild how many of you guys seen these videos if you have it you need to check them out U another interesting it's it's more of a movie made to look like uh like it Was actually shot for real

during that time it's very interesting movie called uh operation Avalanche you guys should check it out and there's an interesting line in the movie where they're saying they realized they couldn't get to the moon so they're like well we're going to have to fake it and they're like well how are we going to how are we going to pull this off you know how are we going to convince the public and there was a line in movie was like we don't need to Convince everybody we just need to convince Walter kronite because if Walter kronite

is convinced everybody else will be convinced because they trust him as their source for truth on the news right another website you should check out if you haven't already it's called alice.com ais.com highlevel PhD level people looking at the Apollo stuff totally exposing it for the fraud that it is but If you don't believe any of what I've just said let's just go ahead and listen to what they have to say out of their own lips we'll have to have the audio from the computer up if you don't have it already listen to this video

right here I'd go to the moon in a nan second the problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore we used to but we uh destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again we're also really pushing the Boundaries in terms of where we're going forward with exploration I think uh humans are naturally driven to do this and this is really the beginning I think of human beings leaving low earth orbit I certainly plan on being around to see that uh the plan that NASA has is to build

a rocket called SLS which is a heavy lift rocket it's something that is that is much bigger than what we have today and it will be able to launch the Orion capsule with humans on board as Well as uh Landers or other uh components to ve to destinations beyond Earth orbit right now we only can fly in Earth orbit that's the farthest that we can go we only can fly in Earth orbit that's the farthest that we can go and this new system that we're building is going to allow us to go beyond and hopefully

take humans into the solar system to explore so the Moon Mars asteroids there's a lot of destinations that we could go to and we're building These building block components in order to allow us to do that eventually once we once we travel Beyond lowth orbit the crew will be exposed to larger amounts of radiation so we have to design both the crew Protection Systems and our electronic systems to withstand this radiation if there is something that definitely in at least in my opinion uh exposes the Apollo program as a fraud it's the Orion Project the

Orion Project uh after they retired the Space shuttle the next project that's on the board right now is called project Orion and um they're pretty much telling you that Apollo never happened especially when they put out videos like this talking about the Van Allen radiation belts we are headed 3600 m above Earth 15 times higher from the planet than the International Space Station as we get further away from Earth we'll pass through the Van Allen Belts an area of dangerous radiation what as we get further away from Earth we'll pass through the Van Allen belts

an area of dangerous radiation one more time area of dangerous radiation oh what's wrong with that radiation radiation like this could harm the guidance systems onboard computers or other electronics on a Ry naturally we have to pass through this danger zone twice once up and once back that doesn't sound good naturally we have to pass Through this danger zone twice once up and once back the differen is of the radiation here on Earth versus out in space the the radiation on Earth is of the wave form we end up with gamma rays or the electromagnetic

spectrum that will be coming off of uh radioactive materials in the Earth in space you actually have the charge particles which are more damaging uh and there there are more of them the the the flux or the number of Them uh is greater and therefore um you'll end up with a higher what we call a dose of radiation one of the most dangerous things for an astronut in space are what are called the solar particle events uh the sun has a cycle where it becomes very active and at sometimes and there are times when it's

not very active and when it's very active it can spew large chunks of stuff into space called solar storms and in fact we're in a time right now as we're Speaking when the sun's very active and you you hear in the news about these solar storms and so solar storm like that if uh spacecraft were in the um path of one of these things uh could be very harmful to both the humans and and the equipment we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space what we must solve these challenges

before we send people through this region of space I thought this Problem was solved over 40 years ago when you sent a bunch of people in jumpsuits and tin cans through it there and back a half dozen times oh oh but I forgot the uh the Apollo guys they were clueless uh regarding the radiation belt that it didn't affect them I don't know the distance to the Van Allen radiation belt and if we did it wasn't a problem if we were going to encounter it then we would have had to build the spacecraft and the

space suit to uh to to not give Humans a problem you you don't just build something and hope it works you study to see what uh the threats are the environment is and then you say how thick do I have to make the metal on the space B crack so that going through this kind of radiation or these kind of meteoroids it won't get hurt and so and we build it that way uh we don't have the ultimate answer for radiation on Orion we're still working on that um you know if we were To build

Orion out of the materials we need and the sole job was to protect for the radiation environment the vehicle would really be too heavy so we have to balance the weight of the materials that we put on the spacecraft um with how much protection it's providing the crew so we're really looking at it from an operational perspective if we um understand a radiation event has happened the crew will actually take shelter in the AFT Bay of the vehicle uh We have found over the years that uh water is a really great radiation absorbing material um

so we could do things like uh water that's already there in the water bags for drink drinking and things like that that that water could be used to Shield them uh as well as we've had some Concepts like a a Waterfield vest that they could put on should they um should they know there's an event and need to be [Applause] Protected we don't have a um a clue when it comes to like how to protect them from like radiation so we're going to just like put them up there in like water suits yeah we like

water suits and and like if we put water all around them you know so the radiation could go like into the water and then you know they could drink it and it could be like a Fantastic Four everybody comes be they'll come back and be mutants when they get back but but we we just got Some ideas you know yeah but don't worry about it yeah I know there are refugees everywhere and like people are starving and stuff and like we have homeless all over the place but if we spend like a few trillion dollars

um I think we should be able to figure out how to make um water suits for the astronauts in space and um then maybe it'll work out like it did for the guys in Apollo the belts are 1,000 mil to 25,000 Mi above the Earth we then we Went right out through them no effects on yourselves didn't even know it I don't think anybody well maybe somebody said you went through the radiation Bell but we didn't feel it inside and we didn't get any you know added radiation yeah if you pretend that it's not really

there then you can you can just go right through it to protect the astronauts from the vany and radiation belts the Luna module would have required 6 ft of lead shielding but here's what they Really had for protection obviously the only shielding they had what was the literally paper thin outer hle of aluminum and their suits consisting of glass fiber some aluminum fibers and silicon rubber it's very interesting concerning radiation that the astronauts were protected by a thin film of aluminum when here on Earth they put a lead shield on us when when they take

a dental x-ray in conclusion when NASA themselves Admit to never having left low earth orbit and the fact that we don't even have the materials that could withstand the extreme temperatures and cosmic rays in space how on Earth can anyone believe that we ever went to the moon now as a former NASA Fanboy myself I have to say that was a really hard pill to swallow but over the last few years I've become more than convinced that we never went to the moon and this belief was only further solidified the more I began to Analyze

the pictures allegedly shot on the moon I have to say I don't think they counted on Photoshop because you can take these images into image processing software such as Photoshop adjust the contrast and see stuff like this strange masks and rectangular boxes around the earth I even found one on the Apollo 17 Mission itself right here on the NASA website scientist on the moon click on this picture right here Supposedly the same mission same guys that took the picture of the most famous picture of our Earth I'm going to do save image as and let's

see Apollo Moon let's call it Apollo Moon 17 and I'm going to open that in Photoshop okay I'm going to zoom in on the earth I'm going to go to image adjust levels and I'm going to bring the levels up uh-oh Why is there a square box around the earth allegedly taken from the scientists on the moon in Apollo 17 and people wonder why I don't trust NASA that's why I don't trust NASA I mean they're always out there saying you know rob you everybody's trying to show you stuff from space you w you keep

rejecting this is why I reject it these guys are liars so I mean if we never went to the moon then this picture is not Real since then they've put out many more what they call Blue Marble alleged photographs of our Earth the problem is they're all vastly different the continent sizes change from year to year the colors change there's no consistency the most famous one of the blue marbles was the one done in 2002 but if you take it into Photoshop and start zooming in on it you begin to see where clouds were replicated

using the Clone tool I mean even it's c TR Rob Simmons Admits it is Photoshop but it has to be and when you look into time-lapse videos it's just as bad if not worse here's the one that got me questioning everything you can check it out on the JPL website supposedly it was shot from the Galileo space Pro back in 1990 well I mean the first thing that caught my attention was none of the clouds are moving I could take my camera outside point it up at the sky for an hour speed it up in

my computer and see the clouds Doing all kinds of stuff but on that day back in 1990 this didn't happen anywhere in the world and NASA and JPL are bad enough but the stuff coming from other countries isn't any better in 2008 this video was put out allegedly shot from a Japanese satellite besides looking pathetically amateur where are all the stars I mean look we get all these images from Hubble right spaces Full of Stars beautiful colors nebula stuff like That every time we watch a Sci-Fi movie you know the planets are hanging there against

a backdrop of zillions of stars but when it comes to any alleged satellite imagery of our Earth we never see any stars even HD footage like this you can uh beef up the contrast and and look I mean hd's got a lot of information there's no information in this video for stars I mean it should look something like this but it doesn't later I saw this Video from 2011 I think it's supposedly from a Russian satellite and it also allegedly represents a real time lapse of one full day of the earth and when I compare

this with the one from 1990 both Again full day time lapses the striking difference becomes obvious I think what we're seeing here is merely the advancement in computer animation technology over the course of about 20 years and here's an example of that Technology this is 100% CGI and admitted to be such and then we have what I call the bozo Earth of 2015 and just like back in 1990 once again the clouds aren't morphing you can back it up Freeze Frame It Go Back and Forth with it you'll see the clouds aren't morphing changing or

anything they are just following the ball as it rolls around in a time-lapse animation and don't even get me started in all the problems with this Moon I've got longer Videos that deal with that so if we put them all Al together once again when it comes to time-lapse videos just like the still imagery there's no consistency over and over and over again I was Finding doctored imagery Andor stuff openly identified in the fine print as being a composite image or some form of CGI the question is why suffice to say we simply cannot trust

imagery from NASA or any other nation's space agency It's all garbage and the sad part is it's only going to get worse because computer software just keeps getting better and better and better for instance Andrew Kramer from video co-pilot just released this plugin for after [Music] [Music] effects [Music] [Music] all right so there's a lot of really cool things that you can do with this plugin and you'll be even more amazed when you see how fast and easy it is to use so there you go you just can't trust what's coming for you you know

they say fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me well I mean if we if if someone continues to believe a proven pathological liar well then they're an Idiot so you know I'm saying let's not be idiots here these people have proven themselves time and time again to be fraudulent once you realize the Apollo program was bogus start looking into the space shuttle program there's a lot of interesting things about that and then of course start looking into the ISS and you got to ask yourself if we know for a fact

that they fake stuff in Apollo and we've got Reasonable Doubt about some of the spa shell missions and More and more and more videos coming out exposing the ISS with footage just like this there's lots of stuff out there there's some really good uh YouTubers out there who who have been watching these guys like a hawk and pulling down footage like this these people are lying to us with our money tens of millions of dollars a day they're lying to us so yeah when you've got so many videos exposing what's going on up there As

a fraud I'm sorry but the so-called photographic evidence simply is not that compelling especially if you actually take the time to look into it yep and we in the Flat Earth Community have been looking into it and we have only been helping NASA as a result how many of you guys remember them doing a a a photo dump of like 10,000 pictures I think it was in 2015 you guys remember that NASA released like 10,000 Apollo pictures or something Like that it was like take that flat earthers here you go you know like proof you

guys are idiots you know we really did go to well all they did you can look into this they actually bought out or rented or something in Old McDonald's they took over this McDonald's building and there's actual pictures of this place full of NASA reels of video and film in there and guys on Max cleaning this stuff up and meanwhile those of us in the Flat Earth Community are going to The NASA websites pulling these videos and pictures down playing with the contrast looking at things seeing the masks and stuff like that doing podcast telling

about this stuff like this the one I did with Josh PC showing the boxer on the earth I did that live on the air with him two days later somebody on Facebook goes yeah go back to the website went back to the NASA website says this this page has been updated download the same video Magically there's no box there anymore yeah we totally helped them out you're welcome NASA that was just the tip of the iceberg what began to make me open to even receiving any of this stuff now I'm going to show you uh

you know I just showed you what was basically a little nibble on the red pill so far I'm going to show you what maybe just drink the whole bottle of red pill this is how I got into this whole thing I blame these guys Started with a friend of mine John gabrielson came through town and lives in Austin came up to Dallas and every time he's up we usually go out for dinner or something hang out for a little bit and over dinner he asked me this question he says rob you ever wonder how does

water bend I'm like water doesn't bend it seeks its own level what are you talking about he goes yeah think about that the next time you look at a globe in the Pacific Ocean what shut up eat your burger you know I was like but he planted that seed right seed he planted that seed in me to start thinking a little bit then I went to go do my taxes on April 13th my turn my uh accountant lived an hour and a half away so I usually look for a podcast something to listen to so

I'm listening to Canary cry radio some guys are friends of mine and they usually have some pretty cool stuff and I see the headline Mark Sergeant Flat Earth Clues I'm like oh what is this you know April Fool's joke or something right these guys are goofy so I you know you never know what to expect right so I listen an hour and a half I listen to this Mark Sergeant guy and of course I'm rolling my eyes at the beginning of this is crazy this is stupid by the end of the hour and a half

I'm going shoot that guy kind of made a little bit of sense then then I had to go through my taxes and I had an hour and a half drive back Home so I listen to it again well then I look this guy up I look up all his videos and stuff like that online and of course he puts his contact information at the end of his videos yeah call me so I call him up and a couple days later I have him on my radio show that was April 15th 2015 which is the day

I now officially referred to as the day Mark Sergeant ruined my life because he certainly did Uh you know I had done a whole teaching series 10-hour teaching Series in December of 2014 and the first part of it was all about the globe here it is four months later this guy's telling me the place is flat I'm like what so at some point during our conversation he goes Rob I get it you believe the earth a globe he said prove it but prove it without using NASA the government or the military as your Source well

that's where all of the source all the videos And pictures we've seen come from the N of the government of the military so of course I didn't listen to him I went and started looking at all those things but the more I dug into it the more I kept seeing things like composite CGI artist you know rendition anything but this is an actual Polaroid of the earth I'm like what and I start looking into the Bible and you know things were got real messed up for me at that point but I start looking on YouTube

there's surely some Other stuff out there stumbled across this guy's work right here Eric dubet had a ton of content online at that time and he he seemed to me like the most articulate person I'd ever heard certainly on this subject uh and he may be a very articulate person but I quickly realized he was reading from some of these older books and so through him I found out about zetic astronomy Sam roboam 100 proofs the Earth's not a glow by William Carpenter and this book Right here just really rocked my world Terra Firma by

uh dward Warda Scott copyright 1901 and started reading those books for myself wow then as I keep looking on YouTube I see this crazy guy out there jiren out there is actually doing tests I and I really felt a kindred spirit in JN as I was watching him and listening to him and his skepticism and just he's out there I'm going to go out there and figure this stuff out for myself so he's doing this Laser test four miles across and and his Initial Ideas didn't work but then they came up with another idea and

basically they they lowered the thing down I think it was like six inches above the ground and they're seeing it from four miles away and you use Globe earther math this is what's funny about the globe earthers now they're all telling us that 8 Ines per M squared is not right it's their math you go on their websites you know metabunk dcom go on their website that's The math they're using and they likeor this your math he's out there using their math and seeing stuff four miles away you shouldn't be able to see I'm like

wow then I see this guy claims to be a photorealistic artist painter that was a contractor for NASA and while he was there heard some things that made him question all this stuff and he starts asking the question you know hey how do we know this stuff isn't paintings he Knows what he's doing for NASA right well I'm an artist myself i' I've done lots of artwork if I really apply myself I can get really close to photo realism myself so I really connected with what he was saying and I and now just for the

sake of consideration all right look at these pictures right here those top two pictures are not photographs those are paintings of wine glasses and Bottles okay the bottom are not sculptures those are paintings of sculptures actually Done by a friend of mine I know that guy uh those are paintings all those up there are paintings now let's put it in perspective which do you think is harder to paint right you know so I started thinking about what math powerland was saying at Poland I'm going hey you know maybe he's got a case there and then

you start finding videos like this do they just come right out and tell you I'm a visualization scientist I Basically try to come up with ways of explaining complex science stories through the visuals and developing artwork and illustrations that actually can help explain the science story to people for decades popular culture and shows like Star Trek inspired a generation of scientists by envisioning what space might look like but wait what does space actually look [Music] like heart nebulas Celestial collisions A bird's eye view of the Milky Way astronomers are charting the outer reaches of the

cosmos and bringing back jaw-dropping images from telescopes like Hubble and its infrared cousin Spitzer if you look down at the bottom of that Milky Way image you'll see these two words artist concept this sweeping image of the Orion Nebula actually looks like this and the Trappist one star system the latest discovery of seven potentially habitable exoplanets that Made national headlines it's really only a box of gray and white pixels you see space art is part of NASA and it has been since before we went to the moon we have been totally and completely fooled by

artists man you know and then you start looking at this picture right here and after you look into the space program and look into the Apollo program and you realize we didn't really go to the Moon then this pictures a fraud but that is The most Parton the pun the most successful sphere of influence ever put in front of us we've all seen this picture in our textbooks I had this picture hanging on my a whole wall in my bedroom downstairs had the surface of the Moon with that Earth which itself was a composite that

wasn't an actual photograph but it had supposedly was the surface of the Moon with that Earth right there I looked at it my whole life but I mean as we showed you earlier you Know they keep putting out all these Blue Marble images and they never look the same right which one and then you start looking into other things that NASA has talked about and you realize full of crap they are you know you know and how they had a very early relationship with artists and organizations and people like Walt Disney you know with all

their cartoons and stuff like that and of course if anybody done any research on Disney and All the phallic symbols and stuff that actually all those great familyfriendly cartoons we all watch are actually full of really bad stuff you know well I mean it's no surprise then that they put out Earth you know pictures of earth right and then you turn it upside down and the clouds spell sex you know oh imagine that right uh and then you come to find out that in 1930 they discovered the planet Pluto and that's the same year that

Disney created the dog Pluto and Then what do you know decades later we get a probe supposedly out there and it just so happens to have an image of Pluto on Pluto man how crazy amazing is that right wow Walt Disney yo he was a prophet yeah maybe it's just a coincidence right and I so appreciate Bob's presentation earlier talking about the inverse Square law and distances and stars and all that stuff well right before this when they they showed the Picture of Pluto there was an interesting article that came out that said that they

were going to go try to measure and capture the shadow of Pluto going across the Earth okay they're saying that the light from a distant star Bob already showed you how ridiculous that whole idea is but supposedly the light from a distant star was going to line up behind Pluto just right such that Pluto from all those however many billions millions millions Of miles is going to cast a shadow of Pluto on the earth and they're going to go try to capture it and take pictures of it think about that okay a shadow of Pluto

like what about Jupiter and Venus much bigger we should be dodging Shadows every day in gym class you know let's go out and Dodge Jupiter today you know want to play dodgeball in the backyard really come on NASA and they're telling us how many earthlike planets they say that they that they're finding Out there over and over and over again which is ridiculous in and of itself Until you realize even more how how crazy it is when they show you how far away they claim to be looking you know Bob talked about it earlier a

lightyear is like Six Trillion one lightyear is like 6 trillion miles away and they're talking about distances between 4.2 and 2,492 Lighty years away these earthlike planets that they claim to be looking at okay that's 2,000 * 6 Trillion and they're claiming they that the K2 mission is going to look 2ou 20,000 light years 20,000 time 6 trillion right really you got a telescope to look that freaking far away all right zoom in on the moon right now I want to count the stars on the flag come on right now we need to be able

to zoom in and see the buggy on Mars that they say that's up there oh they they they claim to be remote controlling a buggy on Mars we don't even have a cell phone in this reception in this building really this is what we're being told oh it gets even worse than that they're telling us that they saw a black freaking hole how far away 55 million light years away they saw a black freaking hole 55 million time 6 trillion and most of us believed it and the people outside these walls do believe it they

just keep testing how Far they can push it and nobody questions anything oh but we're all about about Mars right we're going to Mars oh by the way Mars just so happens to look just like Earth it's a little more red but you know there it is you know everybody's all about we got to find Life on Mars Life on Mars well yeah they found life on Mars squirrels problem solved wow that's amazing no they're up At Devon Island you know jiren was the first person I saw that that had figured this out he he

went on Google and saw some stuff uh you can go look it up for yourself it's like off the E uh the west coast of Greenland Northern Canada up in that area Devon Island I mean and they got the little buggies up there and just so happens it look just like it it looks just oh by the way uh starfleet's been there already you see this this just Came out back in June they found the Star Trek symbol on Mars really the Star Trek symbol on not only that there's a whole bunch of them on

look at that like the whole starfleet's been there already no they're punking you they're punking me look at that a happy face on Mars oh the everybody at NAS is so happy look at that wow oh but Elon Musk is our Guy right Elon Musk how many of you have even heard the name Elon before Elon Musk I never heard of his name that name before well you know just so happens in the 1950s verer Von Bron wrote a sign fiction novel about people setting up a colony on Mars and their ruler was a guy

named Elon in the 1950s yeah probably just a coincidence but you know he put a Tesla in space you hear about That yeah you can tell it's real because it looks so fake what was going through your mind how how amazed were you to see your Roadster up there with star man uh just cruising along with the blue planet and how long will we be getting live views do you think from the car well I think it looks so ridiculous and impossible um and you can tell it's real because it looks so fake honestly okay

but now here's something Else that's really interesting look at this car look at the tires look at the plastic and the leather and other things listen to this but we know we didn't really test any of those materials for you know is it's space hardened or whatever you know so it just has the same seats that like normal car has it's just literally a normal car in space which I kind of like the absurdity of that yeah it is quite absurd now I Went to the contact in desert conference earlier this year and this individual

here David Adair uh claims to be a materials specialist working for NASA allegedly testing various materials before they put it on objects that are supposed to be sent out into space all right now listen to what he has to say about testing these materials in the Material Sciences um in that environment it's not friendly Out there y'all it's it's 225 250 degrees below zero on the shadow side 250 above on the sun side so right through the meridian line you're you got a 500 degree difference it's a total vacuum there's ultraviolent Rays gamma rays uh

infrared all unfiltered by the atmosphere just burns things up when when they hit it some of our materials just absolutely disintegrated they were gone we just had a blank where we put the piece of Material okay so if this guy's testimony is true then he just completely debunked this I mean look at the rubber on the tires you know the the tires aren't exploding the rubber is not disintegrating any plastic on there is not you know frying and it's spinning so it's going 500° temperature range from 250 plus to negative2 50 plus as it's in

direct sunlight and then you know spinning out of direct sunlight and yet the glass is fine the Plastics fine the Rubber's fine the leather's fine everything's okay it's just a regular car that Elon Musk himself said basically you pulled right off the lot and supposedly shot it up in space so yeah I agree with Elon it does look fake and the whole thing is completely absurd and I think anybody who believes this is actually real probably needs to have their head examined also did you notice that the orbital speed is usually 177,000 miles Hour and

the Earth supposedly spinning at 1,000 miles hour did you guys see the Earth spinning H somebody needs a fire that animator so I saw another video that caught my attention this guy was taking a look at the whole idea about going to Mars and really exposes it for the absurdity that that whole idea is in 1987 construction began on one of the most ambitious scientific experiments in the 20th century it was Called Biosphere 2 a completely self-sustained ecosystem designed to test technologies that we could use to colonize Mars the idea was to have eight people

live in this compound for 2 years completely cut off from the outside world growing their own food recycling their own waste and breathing oxygen from a rainforest that they maintain themselves project cost over $200 million in over 4 years to build they brought in 3,800 different species of Plants and animals to create a stable environment including bringing in a specific species of hummingbird that could pollinate the flowers and not smash into the glass walls and kill itself Four Women and four men entered Biosphere 2 in September of 1991 to huge media attention but only 12

days into the mission one of the crew people cut her hand while processing rice and had to be taken outside the compound to treat it already breaking the rules and When she returned many people noticed that she was carrying a duffel bag with her filled with unknown items which breaks even more rules and only a few months after that they started to notice carbon dioxide rising to dangerous levels it turns out that when they provided soil for the plants they wanted it to grow really well so they provided very nutrient-rich soil well the bacteria in

that soil started releasing a whole bunch of carbon dioxide into the Atmosphere so they had to bring in CO2 scrubbers which also broke the rules and that still didn't quite fix the problem by January 1993 the oxygen levels were so low it was comparable to a mountain climber at 17,000 ft so they started bringing in compressed oxygen tanks at this point the whole concept of the thing was out the window and after 2 years of living under constant surveillance plagued by hunger and the stress of dealing with the same people Day in and day out

for years at a time the eight biospherians emerged from the compound completely splintered into two groups Lord of The Fly style they refused to even talk to each other the biosphere project went down in the history books as a total disaster despite hundreds of millions of dollars and years of Planning by some of the brightest Minds in the world showing just how difficult it actually is to create a self-sustaining Colony so the Question is is if we can't make that work here on Earth how exactly are we going to make this work on Mars seriously

now you saw the Orion Space Capsule in the clips that I showed earlier right they're talking about sending like three or four people putting three or four people into a Volkswagen okay that's what we're talking about they're going to put three or four people into a Volkswagen siiz capsule for seven Months think about that that's how long it's going to take them to get to Mars can you imagine spending seven months in a swagon with somebody right and when they get there there's going to be no usable water no food in a hostile environment atmosphere

that's not breathable full of radiation so obviously they're not going to be able to spend much time there at all they're not going to be able to bring any of the things that they had in Biosphere with them you know and then they're going to have to get back in the Volkswagen for another seven Monon Journey back you know what their biggest problem is going to be themselves they're going to go back crap crazy and kill each other and God help them if if anybody gets a cold somebody gets diarrhea that's going to be a

rough seven months you know you ever been in that ride that spins you around you're Plastered against the wall you know and the dude over there throws up and everybody else like you know s months that's crazy the whole idea is crazy but they're going to spend billions probably trillions of dollars on this idea of going to Mars meanwhile we are destroying this place we need a class action lawsuit folks they're taking billions of our dollars our tax dollars for a pipe dream That's never going to happen meanwhile they're destroying our ecosphere here no if

you're going to spend billions of dollars a year we need to fix this place first I'm serious it's outrageously irresponsible to even consider this whole idea oh but it's in the news every day going to Mars going to Mars yeah no there's a big problem folks with that whole idea so all that that I just showed you is the Preface uh that's what primed me to be able to accept the things that we're talking about here at this conference so I want to talk now about going from being a skeptic to becoming a confer what

does that look like well you know I dare you to start doing a little bit of research for yourself if this is brand new to you you know that there's a saying many of you may have heard for there is a principle which is a bar against all information which is a proof Against all argument and which cannot fail to keep a man in Everlasting ignorance that principle is condemnation before investigation Aristotle said it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it King Solomon said he that

answers a matter before he hears it is falling a shame unto him how many of you immediately as soon as you heard Flat Earth your first reaction was that's crazy that's stupid this is Insane we were all proven proving how high the mountain of ignorance we wanted to climb and plant our flag none of us has done any research none of us we heard it we like that's crazy knee-jerk reaction right well you know if you're a reader I would say you know as a Bible believing Christian my first place that I would point to

would be the Bible and then I would suggest reading those other books that I mentioned earlier zetetic astronomy 100 proofs terrafirma and this Book right here in the end was really cool book was written in 19 2022 I think Kings dethroned and it talk you we always hear that the sun is what 93 million miles away and the planets are this far when you read how they came to those numbers like the methodology that they used to come up with those numbers now I'm talking sometimes way back in the ancient past sometimes in the early

part of the 20th century these are the same numbers we're still using today in The 21st century when you look at the methodology the way they came to those numbers you're going to be like how did any sane person buy that highly recommend checking out those books right there some of you picked up my book in the back that I had here I had a few copies also available on Amazon basically what I did is I took this uh many of the scriptures the biblical argument and connected them with the the full uh text of

synthetic astronomy and 100 proofs and put it into one volume with a little bit of commentary for me so you can check that out uh to get yourself started now you need to know this that every one of us that are now converts we started out we're going to debunk this whole Flat Earth thing how many of you can relate to that I'm going to debunk this whole thing so if that's your mindset right on I'm going to go into this conference and debunk the thing well there's a few Things you need to understand never

forget first of all that we used to be you we started out where you are you know that's first thing none of us belongs to the flatter Earth Society okay now I know Mark signed up okay Mark Mark's here somewhere he signed up because he wanted to get the little card and see what it was like you know but you got to know none of us woke up one day and said Gee you know I wonder what organization I can Join today that's guarant to make people make fun of me laugh at me and cause

my life to be a living hell where do I sign up none of us did that there's this whole mindset that we have to be part of an organization to believe anything right that's like saying oh you're a Christian you must be Catholic no I grew up Baptist you know there's 40,000 denominations of Christianity right none of us join the Flat Earth Society but that's the first thing the media does That's the first thing most people do is they go check out well my friend my relative whatever has gone crazy must have joined the Flat

Earth Society let's see what they believe first thing they do is go check that website out don't do that none of us that I know in this research Community give them any credibility whatsoever and we are not part of them and we don't believe in the upward floating theory of gravity how many of You heard that before the flat earthers believe watch the screen this is what they put in the news report over and over and over again oh that's what the flat earthers believe gravity is no we don't we don't believe that yet every

news mainstream news article that's come out is talking Al about this all the Christian creationists and stuff they put this stuff out we don't believe that they got that information from the flatter of society you guys don't know Anything more about gravity than we do one of the answers everybody uses for everything you know you try it's either refraction or gravity right how come we can see Chicago refraction gravity right over and over and over again and yet they claim to know everything about gravity they don't you're smartest guys Neil degrass Tyson and these other

guys self profess smartest people they say what is gravity we don't know we know what it does we can predict with it but We don't know what it is you know so nobody really knows what gravity is look we all know you pick something up drop it you know I like I think it was Dave Murphy called it the drop drop it works uh and you can't just insert Flat Earth into the cernic model of the universe many people talked about this here already at this conference but that's what people think right they Think that

you know oh you know you got the sun 93 Million Miles Away Mercury Venus pancake we don't believe that yet Danny fauler how many times has Dr Danny fauler been to our conferences at this creation Ministry answers not found in Genesis that's what I call it now he just put out a book called Falling flat and on the front cover he's got a pancake floating in space he knows that's not what we Believe so he's intentionally being deceptive right off the bat he's trying to heavily bias his audience against us when nobody that I know

in this entire Journey that I've been on believes that and you have to throw that whole idea out if you're going to enter into this subject because you can't think that way you have to just trash the whole thing and start over again please do some research into the founding of these organizations NASA JPL The Freemasons the Nazis look into these before you decide they're your source for truth and I'm begging you please for the love of God and everything that is Holy learn what a fishey lens is and what it does to images I

can't tell you how often I get somebody coming after me literally every day saying see prove the the globe and they'll send me pictures like this from the red remember the Red Bull Jump they'll send me pictures proof right there well if you want to here's a little clue right he's jumping over Planet New Mexico for crying out loud just complete the curve you know that's going to help you and yet I have friends or now former friends this guy's got a PhD right he's coming after me and he remember the Mythbusters they did that

little flight in the I don't know was a you or something like that plane they went up To like 70,000 and he's using this as proof that the Earth's a globe and he's saying stop listening to the Flat Earth gurus and their false claims he says a fishey lens doesn't curve things that much I'm like no Doug why do you have the exact same curvature 50t Off The Runway that you have at 70,000 ft he's like why didy what is painfully plainly and painfully obvious I'm like yeah indeed look at the straight line right behind

his head 70,000 feet and the GoPro in the window and yet over and over and over again people who claim to be smart letters after name physics .org right they have websites like this physics.org talking about students got breathtaking you know pictures of the curvature of the earth you would have thought that the curved rope might have given them a little bit of a clue that something's going wrong wrong with this picture here or they could Have just stopped the video at 4 seconds in and said hey scientists prove the curvature of the Earth at

10 feet because you have the same curvature of the Earth at 10 feet that they had at 100,000 ft it's called a fisheye lens folks check this out I want to talk about the Gemini 4 spacewalk June 1965 first of all I want you to know they've been using fishy lenses right from the beginning and here's a proof of it right here from footage supposedly from Gemini 4 look at watch watch watch o going flat oh they cut away cut away let's look at it again though since they cut away flat going bulging out to

being convex look at that Globe wait wait wait oh here it goes going flat h anyway some very interesting things about this footage stood up in the seat they got ready to go and and um we cleared him to go and then he took and pushed off from the seat now notice how fast the Earth is moving below them got draging a little Bit I don't want to fire the gun yet and look at the way this this is shot he's all Herky jerky but the earth below is moving nice and smooth Ed White is

flying at 177,000 mph 200 mil above the Earth okay I'm out okay they said they're about 200 miles above the Earth and moving at 17,000 mph okay keep that in mind if the lifeline fails he'll literally be lost in Space Oh no today those pictures are are are classic yeah they're classic all right okay now when I first saw people doing commentary and this when he turns his head like that they're saying see that's proof you know that this is not right then I found this footage right here so apparently they can turn their heads

so I guess uh that's been debunked but compare the stop motion animation of King Kong the original King Kong movie With uh this footage of Gemini 4 the background's mve nice and smooth but in the foreground it's very Herky jerky very much like the old stop motion stuff [Music] so yeah I'm going to say that looks fraudulent to me now the International Space Station is also supposedly at about 254 miles high and moves at the same speed now check this out this is the Koopa it stick sticks down below the uh space station uh and

a lot of folks I I play this game with myself about where we're flying over the Earth uh-oh somebody forgot to speed up the animation This Is The Day the Earth Stood Still ladies and gentlemen compare again the Gemini space footage both are supposedly at about 200 miles high and moving at 177,000 plus miles per hour so somebody's lying here folks either the Gemini footage is fraudulent or the ISS footage is Fraudulent you you got to recognize that somebody's lying to you here look how fast the Earth is moving in the Gemini and look how

the Earth's not moving on the ISS and just by way of closing more proof that they're using a fishey lens this is from the same Gemini 4 documentary look at that concave oh no it's going flat oh no no convex oh wait a minute no no no no the Earth's concave no no no it's going flat oh no no no It's convex oh concave flat oh no during reentry the USS Wasp launched 13 search and Recovery aircraft 13 gmany 4 splash down at 1213 Eastern Standard Time June 7th 1965 interesting yeah now so I may

have proved that the helmets can turn however if you think about the vacuum of space what kind of seal could make that possible you know consider that the whole thing you know I'm saying hey make A choice one of them is lying I think they're both lying frankly there there's no reason I should believe these people uh and you don't have a working map or model either K is always trying to get somebody to debate him right and he's telling he makes a prerequisite you know everybody's trying to get me to debate Kent hovind I

have no interest whatsoever in debating Kent Hoven I'm not going to debate Kent hovind but his prerequisite is okay if you're going to Debate me you need to send me an accurate map of what you believe First I'm like you need to provide us an accurate map of what you believe you guys believe the Earth's been a globe since Pythagoras right 500 BC whatever aites you've got 250 different maps and none of them accurate he's like well that's because you're trying to make a 2d representation of a 3D model I'm like that's not my problem

that's your problem Kent you believe your aall but If you're going to demand that I give you an accurate map then you need to give me an accurate map when it comes to the model of the cosmos you got Neil degrass Tyson saying hey we're 96% stupid when it comes to our understanding of the cosmos you know and mukaku is saying we're off by 10 to 120th power so until you guys have an accurate map and model don't be telling us we need to provide you one we've been at this for what four Years now

with no money and no resources they get $50 million a day and they've had 2500 years and they can't give us an accurate map or model sorry and relax please nobody's going to fall off the edge of anything God's got you covered it's all good most of your top pick a number videos you know why we know the Earth is a globe are very easy to debunk you see the top 10 reasons why we know the Earth's a globe go through them and just Put a critical thinking mind on and you'll be able to debunk

easily five to eight of them right off the top of your head without even thinking about it they're very easy do your own research okay and by this uh you know we're not going to do your homework for you many people are getting into this brand new and like what about this what about that what about look we've been at this we got video I got hundreds of videos up there I got at least 200 plus videos on my channel alone I know Bob and those guys got to have at least that much probably double

that you know a lot of people have already put done a lot of hard work in this if you're going to ask questions go look and see what the answer is first and realize this is not a get-rich quick quick scam okay no one's getting rich off of this I get this accusation all the time from people oh ska's just doing this for Fame and Fortune I'm like what Are you smoking this guy right here is another creationist out there and he put an article out recently to promote Danny fauler book and he's got a

page dedicated to debunking Flat Earth and he says all the top supposed Flat Earth Believers have ad Revenue enabled on their YouTube channel it is my proposal that they are pretending to believe in a flat Earth because they are generating hundreds of thousands of dollars per Year from ads shown on their YouTube videos hey Bob are you getting hundreds of thousands of dollars a year yeah okay yeah he he says it like three times he he concludes later pure truth isn't popular on the other hand deceptions are often very popular and we've noticed that the

Flat Earth videos on YouTube receive Millions upon millions of views that relates to very Hefty sums of money being given to those channels and add Revenue uh no that's not true and in in the interest the full disclosure if you want to know what a YouTuber is making go online there's a website called socialblade.com you can type in the URL of your favorite YouTuber put it into this website and it'll tell you how much money they're making and this is my stats right here pretty good I've got 26 million views of on my channel right

what do they say uh my ad revenue is estimated between $103 a month to 1,600 that's pretty accurate last month it was like 400 bucks okay and total estimated yearly revenue is 1,200 to 19,000 so that's that's pretty reasonably accurate right there um as far as YouTube ad Revenue uh most of my whoops I went the wrong way most of my videos uh get demonetized this is my Gmail account you see something common there copyright claim copyright claim copyright claim you know there's something like 280 six Uh messages there and they're almost all the same

copyright claim I get flagged all the time because I use third party content how many videos have I showed you just in this presentation here and so I can have a three-hour presentation use 30 seconds of your video and you get to monetize it I don't YouTube has no concept of what fair use means and so yeah no I may be uh I may have 26 million views but it doesn't translate to Dollars um in fact I did did a search I've been on YouTube for 75 months as be just before I was coming here

to prepare my presentation and not that it's anybody's business but I made $76,500 in six years okay and you divide that out it comes out to about $12,750 per year not hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and if you take that full number and divide it by 75 months it comes out to $1,220 a month oh wow I'm looking for my private jet okay Bob you want to go Shopping with me I easily put way over 40 hours a week into what I do and if you divide that out just by a four let's

just say it's a 40h hour you work week that comes out to $6.38 an hour I'm making and you know I'm supposedly part of this big evil Flat Earth conspiracy to make creation Ministries look bad that's what they're coming after me for yeah for what 87 cents below minimum wage sorry no it doesn't work out that Way so if you're looking at this whole Flat Earth thing with the idea this is a get wi get rich quick scheme no if you want to know how to get rich on YouTube check out this website right here

this this Channel on YouTube have you ever heard of this website how to basic first of all it's a genius name for a YouTube channel how to basic right it's got you know how to change a tire how to do this you know but when you click on it you go to because you're thinking I want to Know how do I install a door or how do I you know fix a computer and then you click on the video and I just chose a short one here to show you what type of video you're going

to get like how to fix a leaky [Music] toilet a all of his videos are exactly like that okay and you go look at this guy's stats he's making an estimated income of $5,400 to $887,000 a month 65.4 th000 to1 million dollar a year if you want to make money on YouTube that's what you do you don't get into flat freaking Earth [Applause] okay I mean wow can't even tell you how many times I get accused of that okay and for those of you who claim to be Bible believing Christians look the simple fact of

the matter is the Bible is a flat Earth book from cover to cover It just is and when Mark challenged me to you know prove that I believe the globe as a Bible believing Christian that should have been the first place went but it wasn't it was actually after i' already gone through the NASA stuff and seen the clouds not moving CGI concept artist concept all that stuff that I was like what is going on here and then I finally went back to the Bible but I went to the Bible with a prayer and I

would suggest anybody who's interested in doing this needs to pray the same prayer is father if I'm bringing preconceived bias to the text please remove it from me allow your Holy Spirit to tell me what the text is saying if you pray that prayer you're not going to get very far you're going to get to verse six chapter one of the first book and you're going to run into this thing called the Firmament I'm sorry Danny fauler but it's not the expanse of air gas in the vacuum of space I've got lots of videos talking

about that but in summary of lot I mean you just go to my YouTube channel most of my YouTube channel is talking about the biblical case but I'm going to go through it pretty quickly here we live in a self-contained three- tiered system Heaven Earth and underw underworld according to all the text references that you see there and by the Way this isn't thus sayith the Lord this is thus thinketh Rob okay I'm an artist this is when I read the text this is what I see in my head I'm not telling you this is

what we live in okay maybe it is maybe it isn't I'm telling you that when I look at the Bible and other ancient texts this is essentially what I see in my head when I take all the components together that I'm showing here this is what is what I see in my head anyway there is a solid firmament Dome Vault over us according to all the text that you see there yahweh's Throne sits above the heavens in in the waters according to all the text that you see there the Earth is inscribed in a circular

flat fashion into something with four corners and surrounded by water according to all the texts you see there the sun moon and stars are in the firmament and all the stars are going to fall to this place that was a deal breaker for me you got Isaiah the Prophet Isaiah you got Yeshua Jesus Christ himself the Son of God the Creator telling us that all the stars are going to fall to Earth you got Peter and John the New Testament telling us that all the stars are going to fall to Earth well we've got a

really big problem of Beetlejuice is headed our way followed by Urus and the constellations and Andromeda and oh by the way Andromeda is just one of billions and billions of galaxies out there all of Them with billions and billions of stars with you know planets around all that's coming here somebody's lying and I'm not prepared to say that it's Isaiah Yeshua Peter and John no Carl San Neil degrass Tyson mitchu Kaku you guys are lying Jee rotenberry George Lucas all right all the Stars Are Falling to Earth somebody's lying there are floodgates or Windows in

The firmament according to text you see there Earth is a geocentric stationary World set on pillars according to text you see there from Genesis to Revelation the Earth is consistently described by Holy Spirit inspired authors as fixed and not moving spinning orbiting ET ET circular with edges corners pillars foundations Etc under a dome within which the sun moon and stars are placed on day four and I put these two up there this is the interior of the model that I Showed you there essentially the foot stool of God which is a better fit for a

stationary World set on a firm foundation of pillars under a solid Dome within which the sun moon and stars move and which will accommodate all the stars falling to Earth which one it's pretty easy when you just allow the text to speak for itself now of course people look at that they listen to things they say and they say well why should we even trust the Bible why Should we that's a much bigger discussion all right we can spend a whole weekend talking about that um in my early Journey people think that I just accept

everything on Blind Faith I don't I've questioned my faith I've questioned the Bible I've had I've wrestled with all the same arguments that jiren and others have posted you know and I understand some of the arguments the problem with the text being changed and people tampering with All that stuff but you know what that's why God allowed the Hebrew Greek and Aramaic test text to be preserved and why they pop out of places like the Dead Sea Scrolls and where we can take and look at the various English translations and compare them to the earliest

known remaining copies that are out there and they're out there by the hundreds in some cases thousands okay I've looked into it now there's certainly many books I could recommend These are three books that were early in my own personal Quest trying to understand that had an impact on me EV evidence that demands a verdict more evidence and you know revised versions of It new evidence and stuff like that these are all by uh Josh McDow um and there of course CS Lewis and many other people out there Lee Strobel a lot of people start

out as atheists I'm going to prove the Bible wrong guess what happens they end up proving it it's Right Matt long just did a conference the Sky Fall conference just recently you should check out his video he did a good apologetic on it too uh talking about the trustworthiness of scripture and of course I would point to my own personal experiences but those are mine you can't relate to that um you'd have to have experiences of your own but I hear this one all the time Rob yeah but Rob you're just making Christians look stupid

you ever hear that before you Ever said that before okay I'm going to help you out with this a little bit if you call yourself a Christian you're already look stupid you know here's a news flash for you here's some of the things that we already believe that you know people who don't believe the Bible who don't have that Faith uh you know they look at us and we're like you know we believe that the Universe and everything was created in six literal Days we believe in two magic trees h and a talking snake we

believe that Moses split the Red Sea a dude with a talking donkey like Shrek the walls of Jericho comeing crumbling down with the trumpets Joshua commanded the sun and the moons to stand still right now how many of you know in a legal system words mean things right if he was taking authority over the sun and moon and the real the way everything worked is the way we've been taught the Cernic principle you know he said sun and moon stand out still over and he told them to stand still over very specific Geographic locations too

so do you think God and the angels were up there going well jeez you know he doesn't understand cernus CU he's not going to come around yet what I don't let's stop the Earth because that's the only way that would be possible Right is to stop the Earth from rotating and stop the Moon From rotating and orbiting you never mind the fact we'd have wind shear and oceans and everything else have all kinds of problems and then after they did their little thing out there completed their battle do you think God's like okay spin it

back up again there's nothing in the Bible that said it was ever spun up to begin with in fact there's like 67 verses that tell you the place is stationary not moving Fixed right but no the Bible tells us Joshua command his son of moon stop the length of a dude's hair gave him Supernatural strength wow that's awesome a few guys chilling out in a fiery furnace remaining unharmed a dude spends three days and three nights in a fish and then pops out and starts preaching oh here's a big one a savior born of a

virgin who walked on water did Miracles died rose again in three days hung out For a few more weeks then flew up into the sky like Superman with the promise of returning on a flying horse followed by a floating city huh all that sounds pretty crazy doesn't it unless you happen to believe it people out there don't believe that they think we're crazy already so if you're big concern is don't get into the Flat Earth because you're going make Christians look stupid I'm helping you out here We don't need any problem looking stupid uh you

know we got charismatic wackiness and people flipping around on the ground laughing and you know prayer cloths you buy this prayer you know donate $100 and you get a prayer cloth that we personally blessed angel feathers and all that stuff how many failed Rapture predictions have we had right that the Bible guarantees yeah we have no problem looking stupid but you know what uh let Me encourage you here because if that looks silly to you wait till I show you in the next section when we come back after the break what they believe what the

other side believes is infinitely more stupid than anything that I just showed you here on the screen and when you look into the beliefs of other ancient cultures it doesn't take you long you start looking into the other ancient cultures the samarians had a similar belief of an Enclosed World System same thing with the Egyptians and the Greeks you look into the the Native American tribes the the Mayan the Incan the Navajo cosmology same thing look into into the noris and Irish uh cosmology you can even go see the movie Thor and look at how

they depicted Asgard right they're being true to their ancient text in the movies right there what caught my eye though in this rendition right here see the big Spire they have there in the center Right there how many of you heard of Mercer before if you've been to public school you probably seen the Mercer map right hanging up on the wall right there yeah you need to look into this what did Mercer know there's a letter that he wrote to John D in the year 157 just Google this look up the letter John D that

uh Mercer wrote to John D wherein he describes in great detail by the way he's the guy that made this map that You've seen he describes in great what they don't show you though we've seen this map before but what you don't see in the original map that he created was in The Legend area there he had another section talking about the North Pole and this is what he what he depicted in his map and other ancient maps have very similar depictions as well this is what it's a North Pole so what Joshua was talking

about earlier yeah I want to go to the north I have have no interest in Going to the South it's way colder down there way more hostile and frankly what's in the north to me is way more interesting you know um because the Ancients were all talking about this and as as recent as 1577 Mercer the guy that Drew all our maps that we've seen talked about this in great detail about a four mountainous Islands divided by four rivers large rivers that he called indrawing seas that he says we're so powerful that if you had

The Misfortune Of getting caught in one of the one of these Rivers you weren't going you're get not getting out those rivers are going to suck you into the middle where there's a Whirlpool a 480 M across Whirlpool that's going to suck you into uh that surrounds a massive 33 Mile in circumference magnetic Mountain that the Ancients called mount meu in the center or the rupis Negra many cultures actually shared this belief but Mercer of all people document documents it Quite thoroughly and had included it on his maps of the world and so you know

you look at what he's saying saying and you look at what all the other ancient cultures are saying and if you're being intellectually honest with yourself and with the words being used in Hebrew Aramaic and Greek in your Bible this is what you end up with this is you know an artist conception that some people from Logos Bible Software depicted this this is the Hebrew concept of the universe Now they don't like me showing this right here in fact they came after me for copyright for doing it they said I was sharing p pa paid

content for free I'm like well you guys share it if you buy their software their software is very expensive software okay but if you buy their very expensive software and you get to this page right there there's a little share button and if you click the little share button that allows you to take their paid content and put it Through their software onto social media once it gets on social media it's out there and they use it in their own materials Dr Michael Heiser now say it out loud with me Michael Heiser does not believe

in the Flat Earth okay I have to continually say that because there's always some idiot out there trying to say that I'm using Michael heiser's work to to say that he believes in the Flat Earth no he doesn't but he's being intellectually honest With himself and with the text by saying look this is what the Bible says you know he's an ancient uh Semitic language expert okay and and very knowledgeable in ancient near East and cultures and stuff like that and he's going through the text going through the Bible being intellectually honest with it saying

this is what they believe now he personally does not believe it neither do the people at logo's Bible Software but the problem is a whole lot of people Are seeing this picture realizing for themselves what the Holy Spirit I believe is confirming in their Spirit when they're reading it and saying well this is what the Bible says and now they're backpedaling and getting really upset about it because they're getting a whole lot of converts from their own software and I'm like do either do you do you stand behind your software do you stand behind your

Scholars with letters after the name better yet do you stand Behind what you say the Bible says and why are you coming after me personally when so many other people are out there sharing this because people are converting yeah here's an earlier video that I did when I was first looking at these graphics and stuff and I'm like okay I I can see now that this is what the Bible's saying how does this stuff work and I was trying to figure out how do the night and day work and the Four Seasons and all that

kind of stuff this is a video and some of you maybe have these questions well how does it work this was an early video I did on that question so very early on in my investigation as you can see May 26 2015 I was trying to figure out how does the sun work over the Flat Earth and I came up with this model now I stated right from the start this was not meant to be to scale this one's a little better uh I still think the sun may be a little bit Too big but

you see the Sun going over the equator here at an altitude of approximately 3,000 miles according to this scale right here and a lot of people will say well you know what is the sun acting like a spotlight no it's not acting like a spotlight and to prove that I'll bring in a little 3D object here and I'll bring in a little Dome on top of it here to show you that this light is throwing off in all Directions up down all around it's not a spotlight so all the critics out there you can stop

saying that it's not shining as a spotlight it's what's known in 3D as a point light that has been adjusted with a limited light throw attenuation now shortly after I did that video I was trying to figure out how the Four Seasons work and you can see that video right here on YouTube how The Four Seasons work on the Flat Earth model and that one was really Interesting and I actually discovered this quite by accident really this video came as a result of me trying to figure out on the globe how does the 24-hour Sun

work and so I use stellarium which is heliocentric Globe based software and I you can put your location of observation wherever you want so I put it in Antarctica I think it was um in the Ross ice shelf area or somewhere like that that wherever you supposedly can see 24hour Sun so I put my camera There and then I pulled it you can adjust the camera and the type of lens you use and and you can adjust it such that you could either look at each Cardinal Point North Southeast or west or in the case

what I did I pulled the camera into the Earth and used the fisheye lens uh setting so that I could see all four cardinal points at the same time and then I just got rid of the ground plane and removed the Stars so the only thing I could see then is the Sun and moon and and I set it to record for a whole year real fast and recorded that and and this software heliocentric Globe based software showed the Sun and Moon speeding up and slowing down um as it was creating these circles and I

just thought geez I wonder what that would look like on the Flat Earth Map on the AE map so I just superimposed it on that and then I just flipped it horizontally because I'm looking down instead of looking up and it actually showed the Sun and Moon going between the tropics and slowing down when it gets in the northern so-called Hemisphere and speeding up when it gets in the southern hemisphere but of course the critics look at this and they ask a reasonable question does it change speeds because the circle's bigger out here in the

winter time going around the Tropic of Capricorn so what is speeding the Sun up and then slowing it back down it was constantly changing directions and Speeds with your model yes it was again heliocentric Globe based software created that and interesting ly enough I found a video online that a guy went apparently on the Tropic of Cancer at a certain time of the year on the equator and on the Tropic of Capricorn and videotaped the moon going across his screen now he had it at Double speed and I made it a lot faster just for

the sake of this video but sure enough the moon was moving at different speeds across His lens fastest over the Tropic of Capricorn medium over the equator and slowest over the Tropic of Cancer I'd be curious to see how the globers explain this but at least the moon here reflected exactly what stellarium heliocentric Globe based software had depicted and I can only assume if the moon's doing this the sun must be doing the same thing though I'm unaware of any tests that have been done in that regard how crazy is that I think it was

Dave Marsh did that video I don't remember for sure who did it but it literally showed that and heliocentric Globe based software showed the sun speeding up and slowing down so how would that work in the capern model I have no idea um but when it ultimately came down to the Bible and looking at it the firmament was truly the key for me it's what sealed the deal in more more ways than one unquestionably the thing is hard according to job 37:18 firm Proverbs 828 Supporting the waters above Genesis 1 16-8 Psalm 1484 attached to

the Earth Amos 96 within which yah place the sun moon and stars Genesis 1 14-19 and 19 1-6 and upon which his throne sits Ezekiel 126 Isaiah 661 clearly this is a very important issue to Yahweh Psalm 19:1 the only model that accommodates every aspect of the firmament is the circular enclosed World model the only way around this is to grossly misrepresent the scriptures yanking the True meaning of the words used out of context and fantasizing about definitions for those words which are not even remotely supported by the text or the historical context in which

the scriptures were written and when I took Hebrew they I was taking Hebrew 101 and they were telling me that there's an idiom that says if every letter has seven meanings then every word has 70 meanings and they didn't have numbers the the Hebrew letters substitute as Numbers so that the the letters themselves are have numerical value but each letter has meanings in and of themselves and they have what they call a two or three letter uh I think it's called a shesh root word upon which other you know you can add prefixes or suffixes

to make more words but those words will have the inherent meaning not only of the word itself but also the root word and the letters that make up the word so that's hence the the idiom So when I was looking at the letters that make up the word rakia in Hebrew you have uh these four letters right here the meaning of the uh re is the highest most important the kof the last final future the VAV or yeah um no excuse me yod uh is work and the in see understand and reveal so if you

put it together in a sentence you got the firmament means the highest most important final last final future work to see understand and Reveal how cool is that how cool is it that we're having this discussion in a place called The firmament you know that's just awesome I think it is very important that this information is coming out now of all time in human history right the 21st century with all the stuff we claimed that we know right we're coming to an understanding of the firmament and that's the meaning of it wow then you start

going out there And doing your own test like I mentioned earlier and you start finding out that terrestrial-based observations consistently confirm a flat Earth and still you got people out there saying stuff like this the Earth is round and here's the proof remember Felix bomgardner he jumped from the edge of space a few years back to perform the highest parachute jump ever well that was on a live feed in front of hundreds of Thousands of people and you can clearly see the Earth's curvature so yes there is tons of truth that Earth is a sphere

yes H yeah there's another one you know right before he hits the ground right 5 feet curvature I this I posted this on Facebook literally last week right there's a a globe in the region of Earth that's being depicted from the ISS and people were defending the picture on the bottom Right that's the Persian Gulf right there right I think it uh what is it Gulf of um hermo something like that St straight of Hermos yeah it's the in their picture right there that's like the entire Northern Hemisphere and they are telling me that that's

an accurate picture and telling me I don't have any critical thinking skills really wow that's on my Facebook page From last week so when I first got into into this of course yet everybody's say oh you're an idiot if you've ever been to the beach you've seen the curve of the earth it's cathartic for me to say that that way it helps me cope so I started going to the beach and taking pictures over and over and over again this is in California and I went up into uh the mountains of Malibu up there and

looking across the whole Distance that you see there in the distance in in the background there that's like a 100 miles across right there and everything I did taking pictures and putting a straight line on there there's no curve there I'm not seeing any curve they're telling me that there's curve but you just take it take pictures of it without using a fisheye lens and you're going to see there's no curve there then I met a guy who was helping me out with my seed project Another riter he grew up in the Ventura area as

a lifeguard and there's this place called the Anacapa Arch and from where he was almost like 20 miles away you could see it on a clear day you could see the Anacapa Arch and it's only like 40 feet high I think it was so he's like wait a minute so he goes to a buddy of his that was like a math professor at a university and he says to the guy we live on a globe right yeah of course well what's the math for that they Figure out the math for that it's roughly 8 in

per mile squared so he said if we had an object about 40t high about let's say 20 miles away you're telling me we shouldn't be able to see it oh absolutely not and the guy goes well the problem is we've all seen it and the math professor goes what are you talking about he goes the anop arch of a sudden you're hearing the Flintstone sound effect go off in his head right anytime Fred gets confused You hear that you know that goes off and the guy's like he turns around he's looking at the mathboard he

trying to figure out where did where did he go wrong you know because they've all seen it and that's the problem we that's why so many people are converting is because we are seeing things on Earth for ourselves that you are not supposed to be able to see you're just not then they said well if I've ever Flo on an Airplane you've seen the curve right so I start flying in airplanes all the time I start taking pictures outside the airplane then bring it into Photoshop put a line across it it's perfectly straight then of

course this picture comes out right here Joshua and nowiki you guys remember this picture he sends it to the ABC News affiliate at the time this guy says what you're seeing here is a mirage now immediately I looked at that And said that's not a mirage you know they're upside down wavy distorted they're not perfectly symmetrical straight up and down you know no so my friend Rick Hummer who lives right in that area he's like wow you know this is in this this this news station is in his local area and he's like what is

he talking about we've all seen Chicago in fact he got in trouble in school for saying he could see Chicago when the teacher said that's impossible it's like I see it all the time right so Rick Hummer and I determined we're going to just get in a boat and drive across that thing and now this is at the time when I was still very skeptical I was calling myself a sythetic agnostic at the time I was 100% the Bible said that it was flat but I was claiming the scripture says prove or test all things

right so that's why I'm going to try to prove or test the Bible now and so I was calling myself atic meaning proceeding with Inquiry and investigation and agnostic meaning not fully convinced either way so I said Rick we've got to get a boat and my thinking was if it's a mirage then when we get close to it it's going to magically disappear and then the city will roll up over the ball and there it will be if it's just the city then it's just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger in the camera

so it took us the better part of a year to finally get to the point where we had the money our Schedules worked out and we could get a chip captain to agree to do it uh and it finally all worked out actually it was the weekend on my birthday 2016 we went across the lake and that changed everything for me and at the same time that all that was happening that the news anchor actually got that poor guy he had no idea his little news you know weather report was going to go viral like

it did and the guy probably got slammed by flat earthers calling him A shill or whatever uh people going crazy on him of that whole thing so he actually wanted to look into it further so he went to a un near him to see if what he had said was accurate come to find out what he said was not technically correct this is the a video that they did later explaining what they think is going on and what they really did though was at least for me they showed me why the lower part of buildings

can be obscured and why Sometimes the lower part of ships are are you know are missing at a distance and stuff like that listen to what they have to say so uh is all this under Mirage and then looming is is under Mirage or or what what are the uh semantics of of looming versus Mirage okay well um that's all uh I guess that's all in the in the details of the uh of the terminology um and from what I understand technically I think Mirage Has to have an inverted image uh whereas uh there are

other atmospheric effects such as looming or towering that are purely displacement and you don't necessarily have have to have an inverted image in order for uh refractor effects to occur in the uh in the atmosphere so they would all fall under the category of atmospheric refraction I guess that that's that would be a good uh a good thing to say yes okay so again this is their graphic we you know According to them we know the Earth's a ball so therefore this is the way it's working Chicago is over here on the left we got

the curve of the earth here and the light rays which would normally be going straight across uh have to be bent due to the atmospheric lensing the uh density in the atmosphere and whatnot causing the light to refract downward basically just conveniently enough over the top of the Bulge of the of the curve so that we can see it on The other side now here's where I would differ with this whole idea again just sort of flipping the board let's just say we don't start with any preconceived notions of the Earth as a globe let's

entertain for a moment the completely absurd notion that water is flat and it always seeks its own level and we're looking across a flat plane of water 46 miles across check this image out right here now I caught this image Shortly after Rick and I returned from our trip across the lake uh we grabbed a bite to eat and then we went out to the beach and it was still clear out so we got the camera out and looked 46 miles across the lake to see this right here this image is extraordinary okay the boat

right here I'm going to guess is less than a mile away and I base that because these people walking in front of the camera here are walking across some Rocks they sort of jut out and kind of fence in the U Harbor area and they are only about a quarter of a mile away from where we were when I shot this I shot this image from right about here this is where we were uh looking across and this is the area right here where those people were walking and the boat as you could tell by

the size of the people on the boat wasn't too much further beyond that so maybe a half mile To a mile at the most I would say away from where we were all right now when I was headed back to Chicago to catch my flight I snap this picture of the Willis Tower and this is if you go on Google Earth uh this is right about the area right here where I believe I I was when I took that picture looking across it's only about 6 of a mile so I'm just a little over a

half mile away and look at the size of the tower as compared to the car that was diagonally in front of me We were looking looking at this Willis Tower from this direction right here when we were on the other side of the lake now okay so let me slide the car over and shrink it down to the appropriate scale beside the boat do you see something rather interesting here this building is significantly magnified the image on the left shows the size and scale of the building next to a car at at 6 of a

mile away the Image on the right shows the same building and the same car with a boat at 46 miles away the atmosphere really is acting like a lens what type of lens a convex lens or a magnifying glass so I'm going to suggest this is what's happening the atmosphere is acting like a lens which magnifies the city brings it up a little closer and as it does so we start to lose a little bit of the bottom of the buildings and perhaps due to uh the Density in the atmosphere there's a additional refraction that

takes place that makes it drop down even more huh just like we saw now this is a steel frame from the half hour video that I did and uh the numbers you see there are all based on the numbers that Tony was giving me based on his device uh his device said it was 37 nautical miles which is 42.6 statute miles but when you plot the same exact location that we were at the exact distance you get on Google Earth is uh 46 miles so you basically add about four miles to all the numbers that

you saw in the half hour video but here's where it gets interesting at least to me both of these pictures were taken with the same camera now if you remember from the half hour Chicago skyline video I was saying I can I can see Chicago we're about 42 miles way I can see it the problem is trying to get the camera's having trouble focusing on it because it's moving up And down and it's so zoomed in but I can totally see it Rick was not zoomed all the way in he was using my camera the

icon cool piix p900 but he was only zoomed in about halfway when he grabbed the shot above now I know that when I got the image below I was zoomed all the way in both of these images were shot from the harbor area here the red line at the top is where we were in the boat we're just about to depart when I asked uh Tony to stop and I got The camera out to shoot Chicago and the lower red line is where we were on the beach when I took the picture on the bottom

there so and the distance between those two locations is less than a quarter of a mile so it's negligible we're still looking about 46 miles across either way now here's the shot uh from the beach before I zoomed in now I'm zooming in zooming in zooming in and I'm going to stop it right about here that's about Halfway on the zoom and I believe that's where Rick had the camera set when he took the picture above based on the size of the building right here I'm going to guess that he was about halfway all right

so let's go ahead and continue the zoom and this is zoomed all the way in the Nikon Coolpix p900 has an 83 power optical zoom and that little punch in after that was the digital Zoom afterward uh it has a digital Zoom that goes beyond the A3 power I did not go All the way in with that I just punched it a little bit uh because I wanted to frame it with the ship right there so that's 83 Power Plus so going to guess it's probably the equivalent of about maybe 90 90 power Zoom or

so right here now let's bring the picture in from the halfways zoom and I'm going to go ahead and bring our car back in and Slide the picture in from Chicago and I'm going to scale the car to the appropriate size to the boat right here And go ahead and Slide the car over to the building so this is what the car in the building look like at half Zoom so let's try something else here I'm going to unfreeze the video and back it off so it goes backwards and we're zooming out back to the

Shoreline and now I'm going to bring It Forward again and let's see right about here is where we have some fairly decent resolution where we can still make out the building I'm going to zoom in here with the computer this is a Computer Zoom now on this still image and I'm going to bring the other image in from the half zoom and scale the car over to uh the digitally zoomed in image of the almost completely zoomed out shot and uh so you got three different zooms here one almost completely zoomed out one zoomed about

halfway on an 83 power optical zoom lens and the one on the right of course all the way zoomed in uh with a little touch of digital zoom on top of that in the camera and when Looking at these images compared to the one on the left which is just shot with my iPhone I I'm I got to tell you it looks like it's being magnified to me especially when you consider the fact that that building is like 45 miles away from that boat it's 45 miles away so looks like there's some serious magnification going

on here and you know some of that could be due to the lens I'll give you that but I also know what I could see with my own eyes now I understand you may want to take my word for it so all I can say is go up there and do it yourself but uh based on what I saw with my own eyes as well as what the quote unquote experts had to say regarding how the atmosphere can act like a magnifying glass I'm still going to go with it as being magnified there is a

lot of water in our atmosphere but I'm thinking if the atmosphere especially over water is Made up of zillions and zillions of tiny convex drops of water then collectively perhaps they all combine to make one big convex lens in which case it would act like a magnifying glass okay so with that in mind let's look up some websites dealing with the refraction of light you might see a graphic something like this showing light bending downward just like the weatherman guy said and here's your typical graphic showing how uh light Rays entering some sort of medium

like in this case water refraction causes the light to bend downward now we've all seen pictures of you know a pencil or something in a glass of water and how not only does refraction bend the image downward it also magnifies it I'm going to say that again water causes refraction bending the image downward and magnifies it so this is important now and let's let's just go back and hear from the Experts once again what's happening with the atmosphere the science is the same of that of a lens here's a simple example so if you're looking

at at Chicago here just maybe now you can just see the top of of the Sears Tower and if our simulated uh temperature inversion moves into place hopefully now you can see all of pretty much all of Chicago see all the lower buildings including including what's at ground level so the atmosphere really is like acting like a Lens yes again based on that imagery that I saw looking 46 miles across versus 6 miles across uh I really do believe just like the expert said the globalist guys these These are people who believe in the globe

now they are the ones that said hey the atmosphere really is acting like a lens and they put a lens in front of the camera to show how it works so I'm I'm just doing what they're doing uh I went on Amazon and I got these um uh plastic magnifying Sheets and came up with another way of doing the same thing uh using the sheet right here set the city up a little cut out of the city and now I've got the big magnifying glass sheet bring the camera right up to the lens see that's

the normal view of the city now let's back up again the science is the same of that of a lens here's a simp example so if you're looking at at Chicago here the atmosphere really is like acting like a lens yes atmosphere Really is acting like a lens and this is how much of the city is missing due to the lensing effect the magnification uh of the atmosphere so thinking about all this and thinking about what I had just shown you regarding atmospheric lensing magnification refraction all that with regard to cities and objects at a

distance on the land I got to thinking I wonder how this would work with the sun and moon so this is what I came up up With I've got my magnifying sheet frame and I created a a little stand uh to paste a sun on it and keep it the same height over the flat surface of a table so the sun is always going to be parallel with the surface and uh check this out all right here's the first test of a sun moving over a flat surface and with no atmospheric magnification it does what

we might expect it would it gets smaller as it goes away from us all right now Let's see what happens when we add in our atmospheric magnification again water and refraction water causes magnification and refraction right so let's bring the sun back oh check this out refraction bends the light downward it made the sun set on a parallel surface as it was is moving parallel the same height the whole way over a flat surface the refraction caused the sun to set not only that well let's uh bring in the beginning of that Little test and

we see that it maintained pretty much the same size too pretty close uh and of course that's because as it's moving away the magnification is is still uh taking place and so even though the sun's further away than it was in the beginning of the test uh the magnification basically preserved the same size and the refraction made it set of Course again depending on how much moisture is in the air we could see that the sun doesn't appear to change in size at all as it goes down we could see sometimes perhaps that it looks

like it's getting bigger when it goes down you ever see like a really big sunset or moon rise moon set you know where one of them looks really large on the horizon well that could be because there's lots of moisture in the air uh causing that effect or When there's less moisture in The air obviously you won't have as much magnification taking place and so it looks smaller as it goes away so it's all relative to the amount of moisture that's in the air now I'm just GNA put forward a crazy idea for you to

think about and that is if Rob skeo could figure this out I'm just I'm I'm just going to go out on a limb here I think it it's quite possible that the creator of the cosmos could have figured out the same thing And engineered our beautiful sunsets thanks to all that water he placed in our atmosphere just something to think about thank you all right thank you that trip showed a whole lot of things to us and explained a lot of things for me anyway and that's when I finally decided I'm just going to commit

and I'll say this the verbal abuse that We that just radically increased but so did the favor of God at the same time and I've never felt so blessed in my whole life that when I finally said you know what father I just I just believe you and could it really be that simple we're talking $10 in arts and craft from Walmart just explain how the Sun and Moon work and all kinds I'm like wow father that's amazing so that's a good place for us to stop we'll take a few minute break and then come

back and wrap Up after that let's take a break thank [Applause] you all right we about ready to start up again can't really tell hopefully everybody's coming back and we didn't scare everybody away okay Jake you can run run that again if you would for me and all right all right let's jump back in uh Went a little bit long in that last session they told me I have freedom to keep going but if you need to pull me off Karen just grab that you know yank me off um otherwise I'll try to go through

this as quickly as I can to get get through everything in the second half uh without us going into overtime um I talked about in the previous session what's really stupid what the Bible says or what they're telling us is Science in mainstream uh education systems well I'm going to submit to you what they're telling us is science is so completely outrageous um but I think I'll just let them show you for themselves this is what they think the idea that God created the universe went largely unchallenged until the Middle Ages when scientists made a

sacrilegious suggestion based on their Observations the Sun not the Earth was at the center of the universe was a paradigm shift there is now another way way to explain the naturally occurring phenomena around us and this is science since the Middle Ages scientists have developed sophisticated new theories about the enormity of the universe and our place in it theories that often have no room for God many phenomena have appeared Mysterious or miraculous or magical and then through the process of science we've eventually understood them scientists gradually realized that the sun really is just one star

among a multitude of stars in a gigantic Galaxy having hundreds of billions of such stars and all this was created in a big bang 13.7 billion years ago but while scientific theories observations and experiments tell us where we are in the cosmos they don't Answer the Eternal questions why we're here and who if anyone created us the amazing thing is that every atom in your body came from a star that exploded and the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand it really is the most poetic thing I

know about physics you are all Stardust you couldn't be here if Stars hadn't exploded because the elements the carbon nitrogen oxygen iron all the things in matter for Evolution weren't created at the beginning of time they created the nuclear furnaces of stars and the only way they can get into your body is if the stars were kind enough to explode so forget Jesus the stars died so that you could be here today okay and and Anyway by the end of the 1920s astronomer Edwin Hubble working with the large 100in telescope at top Mount Wilson outside

Los Angeles had established that our galaxy was only one Of many galaxies in the universe we look out at other galaxies on average they're moving away from us and those that are twice as far away are moving twice as fast those that are three times as far away moving three times as fast and of course that makes us look like we're the center of the universe such a condition would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe analogous in a sense to the ancient conception of a central Earth this hypothesis cannot be Disproved

but it is unwelcome and would only be accepted as a last resort in order to save the phenomena therefore we disregard this possibility the unwelcome position of a favored location must be avoided at all costs such a favored position is intolerable several decades ago we found a problem a problem so great that it was brushed under the carpet for many a decade and this is the fact that galaxies spin too fast in fact 10 times too fast by rights the Galaxy Should fly apart therefore scientists said that we have to have dark Mass matter a

Halo of matter that surrounds the Galaxy and holds the Galaxy together and what have they discovered absolutely nothing zilch what is a little bit perturbing is that after 50 years we still haven't found what the D matter is but on the other hand that doesn't mean they're not there it just means they're harder to find than we thought we look out in the universe and 85% of all the gravity that's out there has some mysterious unknown source we add up all the stars the galaxies the planets the Comets the black holes the dark clouds everything

out there that we can see touch smell or taste and it doesn't add up to give us the Gravity that we see operating in this universe so really we should be calling it The Dark Force because we don't know if it's made of matter it could be a profound misnomer sending people off in thought Directions that might not really be the right path so dark matter is just simply what we call this thing about which we know nothing nothing responsible for 85% of the gravity of the cosmos it is the longest standing unsolved problem in

modern astrophysics Dark Matter Dark Energy everything we know about the universe what we're made of galaxies stars planets that's all right here so according to this chart we are 96% stupid so the problem with cosmology Is that we keep inventing theories ad hoc theories to try to explain the data such as inflation Dark Matter dark energy and so on just to keep patching the theory up there is a crisis in cosmology usually in science if we're off by a factor of two or a factor of 10 we call that horable we say something's wrong with

the theory we're off by a factor of 10 however in cosmology we're off by a factor of 10 to the one 120 that is one with 120 zeros after it this is the largest mismatch between Theory and experiment in the history of science a very large number of universes perhaps even an infinite number could in principle exist in a vast hyperspace we can understand the idea of hyperspace by comparing it to a mug of beer beer the beer mug would be the space and the bubbles would be these individual universes the bubbles in a beer

mug are All physically about the same but suppose they span a range of properties some of them might have carbon and oxygen and stars and gravity and others don't we would be in one of the ones that leads to a rich complex Universe culminating with Life as we know it if there are an infinite number of other universes the fine-tuning that seems to be present in ours isn't an example of God's plan But rather the law of Statistics most of these universes wouldn't naturally develop in ways that fostered intelligent life but a few would so

then the explanation for the specialness of the universe is that we are winners in a gigantic Cosmic Lottery it stands the reason that we couldn't be living and discussing this in a universe that was hostile to life only the biofriendly ones get populated with Thinking beings having a multitude of universes is actually quite a simple and natural consequence of some of the most favored models for the birth and early evolution of our universe it's kind of like stars and planets as long as you have the capacity to make one it's easy to make lots of

them oh really [Laughter] wow beer mug hyperspace multi-bubble Verse really seriously they're farting out beer bubble universes okay that's what they're doing hey I got an idea yep multi beer bubble universe and they call that science and they make fun of us really yeah I'm not going to take that from them anymore I'm not going to sit here and let people who think they came from monkeys out of a beer bubble Universe ridicule me for Looking into what I'm looking into and considering you know a possibility if you guys can think about beer bubble universes

then I can think about a snow globe fair enough okay let's move on that's what they believe that's what they teach they're realizing how absurd their own theories are they add one ad hoc Theory upon another to try to justify the things that they can't they find no observation out there to you know for themselves it's just ridiculous I mean Tesla started to see this happening even in his day he's quoted as saying today scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off through equation after equation and eventually build a structure which has no

relation to reality they say I'm a theoretical physicist whenever you hear that they're working on a chalkboard okay that's it they're working on a chalkboard in fact there's a documentary That that William Shatner did okay he was interviewing people like Mitch ukaku and others and as only William Shatner can do right he's coming up to these guys he's like but what do you do you know what do you do you know and the guy he he comes to the conclusion it's all in his head the guy just making stuff up you know and Shatner later

is quoted as saying you know what science and science fiction are the same thing it's all imagin ation that's what it's turned Into and going back you know even further back into the 1800s roboam started to see it too you know and Samuel roboam said the whole system of Newtonian astronomy taken together constitutes a most monstrous absurdity it is false in its foundation irregular unfair and illogical in its details and in its conclusions inconsistent and contradictory because the Newtonian theory is held to be true they are led to reject the scriptures altogether to Ignore the

worship and doubt and deny the existence of of a Creator and supreme ruler of the world he goes on to say to say that the scriptures were not intended to teach science truthfully is in substance to declare that God himself has stated and commissioned His prophets to teach things which are utterly false he's right he's making an H honest assessment there and even other people within secular science are starting to take a hard look at what their Discipline is teaching and saying you know we got problems here this is an article that just came out

uh April 30th this year a guy wrote an article for a Scientific American called cosmology has some serious has some big problems in the article he says modern cosmology is in a serious need of a reboot compounding this problem most observations of the universe occur occur experiential experimentally and indirectly today's now get this today's Space telescopes provide no direct view of anything they produce measurements through an interplay of theoretical predictions imp pliable parameters in which the model is involved every step of the way in other words they go in with a preconceived bias a model

they already believe I thought that's only what religious people do believe and then they create something and everything they do is based on something That they already had a preconceived bias of the framework literally frames the problem it determines where and how to observe and so despite the Advanced Technologies and methods involved the profound limitations to the Endeavor also increase the risk of being led astray by the kind of assumptions that cannot be calculated he goes on to say a key piece of the Big Bang Paradigm was criticized by one of the Theory's original proponents

for having become Indefensible as a scientific theory why because inflation Theory relies on ad hoc contrivances to accommodate almost any data and because its proposed physical field is not based on anything with empirical justification this is probably because a crucial function of inflation is to bridge the transition from an unknowable Big Bang to a physics we can recognize today so is it science or a convenient invention he concludes his article by admitting in order to Maintain a mathematically unified theory valid for the entire universe we must accept that 95% of our Cosmos is furnished by

completely unknown elements and forces for which we have no empirical evidence whatsoever that's an honest dude right there taking a look at secular it's not a creationist it's not a cre you know Christian up there saying that this is a guy taking an honest look at his own profession and basically I distilled it All down and said you know what is taught today as fact is really nothing more than unproven ad hoc theories based on presupposition derived from outlandish conjecture which itself was contrived from sheer fantasy all of which ends up beautifully illustrated by the

hands of artists and published in textbooks as self-evident truth that's where we're at today uh so let's talk about this whole model that we been taught in school how Old is the earth and how do we know well we got to look at the the whole there was two things that were proposed catastrophism then later uniformitarianism from 1830 to 1833 his multivolume prinus or principles of geology was published the work this is um uh Charles LEL here uh The Works subtitle was an attempt to explain the former changes of the Earth's uh Surface by reference

to to causes now in operation he was along with the earlier John Playfair the major advocate of James Hutton's idea of uniformitarianism that the Earth was shaped entirely by slow moving forces still in operation today acting over a very long period of time as opposed to catastrophism an idea of abrupt geologic changes through violent action thus basically Charles lyel looked at the stripes in the rock you know like at the Grand Canyon and stuff and he assumed that must have taken millions of years He just assumed it he had no proof he had no dating

methods or anything like that he just assumed it today this is the accepted view of geology but how accurate is this assumption and how reliable are our dating methods today consider this what about the age of the Earth isn't there evidence for for millions of years and how do we understand all that well first of all let's look at what the Bible says if you take the days of creation as ordinary Days and you take all those genealogies in scripture if you add it all up up 5 days before Adam from Adam to Abraham and

then you add up from Abraham until today you get about 6,000 years now if the Bible said the Earth is 6,000 years old there'd be a problem because it was completed 2,000 years ago so you see the Bible doesn't say here's how old the Earth is you know what the Bible gives us a history and it tells us about the days of creation when people lived and Died and so on and gives us that history so we can add up the dates and that's how we get a few thousand years well what about all the

dating methods that seem to indicate billions of years actually there are hundreds and hundreds of dating methods that you can use to age date things on the earth see One Creation scientist I know makes this statement he says 90% of the methods you can use to age datee things on the earth contradict the billions of years only 10% even seem to give the billions of years but all dating methods have fallible assumptions who's heard carbon dating used to supposedly prove millions of years put your hand up you know there's a misconception out there in the

culture do you realize that carbon dating has nothing to do with millions of years it can't do any secular scientist who understands carbon dating will tell you the same that's got nothing to do with being a creationist Or an evolutionist carbon dating has nothing to do with millions of years nothing in fact carbon 14 after about 100,000 years uh when you understand radioactive decay the halflife of of carbon 14 is only a few thousand years so after about 100,000 years it carbon 14 it would will be not detectable here's how carbon 14 can be used

if something is millions of years old it shouldn't have radioactive carbon in it should have all gone let me just do Another example here of radioactive decay for you this this is just basic principles it's so much more complicated than this nearly every textbook and Science magazine teaches that the Earth is billions of years old and the primary dating method used for determining this is what is called radioisotope dating or radiometric dating now this is a reliable method for measuring absolute ages of rocks and the age of the Earth right huh first off many scientists

now Regard the age of the Earth to be between 4.55 and 4.6 billion years old okay so if this method is reliable and accurate why the 50 million year discrepancy that seems like a lot but let's get into some details here and see what's going on keep in mind that there's all kinds of scientific jargon on this topic and so we'll just present a very straightforward simplified version geometric dating is the process of estimating the ages of rocks based on The Decay into other kinds of atoms for instance uranium will radioactively Decay through a series

of steps until it becomes the stable element called lead the original element is called the parent element and the end result is called the daughter element radioisotope dating is commonly used to date ous rocks rocks which formed when hot molten material cooled and solidified the dating clock started when The Rock Cooled during the molten state it is assumed that the intense heat forced any gaseous daughter elements to escape it is assumed that once the rock cooled no more atoms escaped and any daughter element now found in the rock is a result of radioactive decay since

that rock formed the Decay rate is measured in terms of halflife that is the length of time it takes half of the remaining atoms of a radioactive parent element to Decay now of course that can be measured In a laboratory and it is assumed that since we know the Decay rate we can calculate backwards and come up with the age of the rock but is that all there is to it here's where it gets tricky it's true we can measure a Decay rate using observational science but there's another kind of science that is required to

accurately calculate dates for rocks and that is what we call historical science historical science deals with the things in the past and therefore it Cannot be repeated and tested dating methods require both types of science because in order to get accurate Rock dates one would have to accurately know both the Decay rate and the initial conditions of the rock sample right since radioisotope dating uses both types of science we can't directly measure the ages of rocks there are assumptions involved for instance how do we know what the initial conditions were in the rock sample how

do we know the Amounts of parent or daughter elements now in that sample haven't been altered by other processes in the past how does someone know the Decay rate has remained constant since the rock formed the answer is they don't let's simplify here and talk about typical hourglass let's say you walk into a room and you see an hourglass with sand at the top and sand at the bottom and some sand sprinkling from the top chamber to the bottom well observational science would allow us to See and measure the sand and then calculate how long

The Hourglass has been running right we could make our sand measurements and then calculate when The Hourglass was turned over right well those calculations could be wrong because we may have failed to consider some major assumptions like was there any sand at the bottom when The Hourglass was turned over has any sand been added or taken out of The Hourglass has the sand always has been falling at A constant rate since we did not observe the initial conditions when The Hourglass started and we haven't been watching the sand all the time since then we must

make assumptions all three of those assumptions can affect our time calculations now of course there's more to understanding all this but enough said I'm here at beautiful Mount St Helens in Washington state you know just about 40 years ago this mountain was cone-shaped but as you can see it's not Like that anymore now it's got this horseshoe shape that's because on May 18th 1980 a this volcano blew its top literally the top 1300 ft of material blasted away leaving this crater now eventually lava flows formed a new dome five new domes actually all of which

were destroyed by subsequent eruptions but the sixth Dome that formed between October 1980 and 86 is what you see today it's composed of 2.6 billion cubic feet of lava and it's quite young having Finished forming just over 30 years ago well in 1996 Geist sent rocks from the lavadome to be radiometrically dated now they used a method called pottassium argon well scientists measured how much potassium and how much argon are in the Rock and they calculate the age of the Rock right but creation scientists have pointed out for years that there are some major problems

with radiometric dating one big one is all of the assumptions That it's grounded on you must assume that the halflife is constant and that it never varies you have to assume that there was no contamination for example no argon was present in the sample before the Decay began well that's a lot of unprovable assumptions now if radiometric dating and the assumptions that it's founded on were accurate well then Mount St Holland's rocks should have yielded very young ages after all The Rock was merely about a decade old You see the problem is they didn't the

rock gave an age of 350,000 years when they dated the minerals within the rock the problem got much worse they gave dates of 2.4 million years this is for a 10-year-old Rock now Mount St Helens highlighted that we shouldn't blindly trust the dates given by radiometric the assumptions clearly aren't accurate so the dates that they give are also inaccurate instead of trusting a method That doesn't even give correct hes for rocks of known age well maybe we should trust the Bible's history which tells us that our Earth is around 6,000 years old Okay so we've

established a big bang cosmology to complete nonsense by their own words they're 96% stupid and off by 10 to 120th power and we've just seen the dating methods are are completely unreliable let's consider another possibility for geological formations that we see and I would refer to Something anal analogy that Kent hovind used to say he said uh you could put two people looking at the Grand Canyon a creationist and an evolutionist and the evolutionist will say wow look what the Colorado River carved out over millions of years and the creation will say wow look what

the B biblical flood carved out in a matter of minutes big difference right your preconceived bias will drive your conclusions now I already told you that I personally come from a Biblical worldview so let's look at what I would say is a much more plausible explanation for geologic formations there was a guy how many of you have heard of Emanuel velkovski anybody hear of him before amazing character he was he lived around the same time as Einstein and and those characters and he was a big proponent uh for catastrophism uh coming against this whole idea

of uniformitarianism if you Haven't read these two books in particular these are books I read actually as a teenager and Revisited recently worlds in collision and Earth and upheaval highly recommend you check those out but uh check this out the earth's surface is scarred by Deep Canyons cut into Solid Rock but how did they form a little bit of water over a long time or a little bit of time with a lot of water modern Rivers don't generally cut Downward into Solid Rock so today's River erosion seems incapable of explaining Rock Canyons the great flood

of the Bible however provides a possible explanation for such Canyons on May 18 1980 Mount St Helens located 95 mil south of Seattle Washington erupted the eruption was triggered by an earthquake centered beneath the mountain that measured 5.1 on the RoR Scale the lateral blast swept out the north side of Mount St Helens at 300 mph with temperatures as high as 660 de F and the power of 24 megatons of thermal energy it snapped 100-year-old trees like toothpicks and stripped them of their bark before the famous eruption at Mount St Helens scientists were mostly familiar

with slow acting examples of geologic change but at Mount St Helens geologists watched the Earth's surface Change quite rapidly icebergs were buried in hot Avalanche material they melted and formed bad lands in days eruptions on May 18 and June 10 produced fine layers in hours on June 10 mud flows cut zigzag Canyons 100 ft deep in soft sand and mud complete with perpendicular side Canyons Canyons that are reminiscent of the geography of Grand Canyon only 40 times smaller and clearly produced Within hours mud flows over the following decade cut hundreds of feet into Solid Rock

in just days of cutting time Fallen trees formed a log mat on the surface of Spirit Lake and dropped bark to the bottom of the lake accumulating up to 3 ft of bark peat in just a couple years and vertically floating logs sinking to the bottom of the lake resulted in Buried trees in only a decade similar to the Trees of Yellowstone's fossil Forest which are also buried in volcanic layers at Mount St Helens a single mud flow off the mountain carved Engineers Canyon out of soft sediment in a single day 100 ft deep and

the same thing even happened in Solid Rock a series of mud flows created L and steep Canyons on the front face of Mount St Helens cutting hundreds of feet into Solid Rock over just a few years Grand Canyon is a good example where we find evidence of catastrophic forces at work Upstream is evidence of huge Lakes these Lakes would never have formed if the canyon were already open below them however if these Lakes had formed from rains after Noah's blood and if the pressure of these Waters broke through and carved through the recently deposited sediments

then we would expect to find surge deposits Downstream below Grand Canyon this is Precisely what we find evidence of a lot of water cutting over a little bit of time even though Mount St Helens is a very small catastrophe compared to the flood or the major catastrophes immediately following the flood it provides a better clue to what happened in those times than the slow geologic processes which are most commonly seen in the present okay so now we've already established that the Big Bang Cosmological model is nonsense and we've seen that our dating methods are flawed

and bogus and we've just seen how the biblical flood of Noah is a much better explanation for our geologic uh formations and things of that nature let's go ahead and this is all easily testable observable repeatable science this is not ad hoc Theory and conjecture we're talking about here obviously we can talk a lot more about this but I'm just giving you highlights here for some Things to think about let's go ahead and dive into the issue of biological evolution right the whole idea that we we got here from goo to you by way of

the zoo as Ken hovind would say right you know this is essentially the standard darwinian model right there right and you know we look at what the Ancients have done and and you look through the ancient megaliths and all kinds of stuff they the pyramids and all that stuff I mean they were clearly Highly advanced back then the only reason that we think it's the Ancient Aliens Must Have Done it is because we have an evolutionary mindset that we're taught from birth practically that we are at the Pinnacle we're at the top right I mean

we're so smart we think we came from monkeys and we don't even know what freaking gender we are anymore how smart are we I mean right I mean think about it for 6,000 years of recorded human History nobody anywhere race color creed religion or anything had had any problem you know baby pops out got some H you down there hey congratulations it's a boy no oh it's a girl you want to get scientific about it you got X and Y chromosome boy twox chromosomes girl okay it's not what's between your ears that determines your gender

it's what's between your legs okay that the fact that I have to explain this in the 21st century is proof of Entropy okay but this is the thing we have been taught that we evolve from goo to you by way of the zoo and that we are at the top so when we look back and we see stuff clearly destroying that whole Paradigm the further back you look the more intelligent we were clearly the more advanced we were they were doing stuff that even today with all our modern equipment and Science and everything else we

can't figure out how they did it right but this is the model That we've all heard now how many of you heard in school or been taught that we share 97% of our genome with chimps have you heard that before it's one of the justifications right they look at DNA and they say we're 97% just like chimps okay I found a video this is not by a creationist or a Christian or anybody like this this is somebody taking an honest look at their science and is telling you how they came to that number 97% check

this out when researchers sat Down to compare the chimp and human genomes those single letter differences were easy to T but the big mismatch sections weren't for example if a genetic paragraph thousands of letters long appears twice in a human scroll but only once in its chimp counterpart should that second human copy count as thousand of changes or just one and what about identical paragraphs that appear in both genomes but in different places or in reverse order or broken up into Pieces rather than monkey around with these difficult questions the researcher simply excluded all the

large mismatch sections a whopping 1.3 billion letters in all and performed a letter bylet comparison on the remaining 2.4 billion which turned out to be 98.77% identical so yes we share 99% of our DNA with chimps if we ignore 18% of their genome and 25% of ours does that make sense to anybody Oh Let's ignore 18% of their Genome and 25% of ours hey we're 98% the same that's ridiculously absurd especially when you realize that DNA are the codes that make stuff living nobody in the the right mind would look at let's say Adobe Premiere

Pro or after effects in you know in let's say Microsoft PowerPoint and say that they're you know 98% the same there's a whole lot yeah they we work with a mouse they got an interface it's kind of there's vast difference in the Programming between these software right massive it would be an insult to the programmers to say something like that right but that's exactly what we've done to our creator in fact when the people who discovered DNA we got um Francis Crick and uh his buddy there the late Nobel Prize winner Professor Francis Crick along

with British chemist Leslie orgal proposed the theory of directed pans spermia in 1973 a co-discoverer of the double helical structure of the DNA Molecule cric found it impossible that the complexity of DNA could have evolved naturally okay these are the guys that discovered DNA and they looked at it and they said there ain't no way this evolved from random chance mutation over time this is information matter does not produce information that leads to complex life forms right so what was their grand solution with no proof no evidence everything aliens aliens must have done it so

they Come with the whole idea of panspermia that's when the idea of panspermia was born and so how many of you heard of the Ancient Aliens TV series right that whole series is all about that that the Ancient Aliens came and seated this world uh to Kickstart Evolution because theyve recognized that our science is falling apart this whole darwinian thing is falling apart it needs intelligent design to make it happen thus when asked if intelligent Design was a plausible solution for the evolution of man this is what Professor Richard Dawkins had to say it sounds

very laudable to to teach the controversy to teach both theories but there aren't two theories there's only one theory around there's only one one game in town as far as serious science is concerned of course you get Negative reactions from creationists but who cares about creation is they don't know anything we're Johnny L we live in the Cosmic Boondock we emerged from microbes and Muk apes are our cousins you don't believe that the Earth is round only if you're an astronaut you don't believe Napoleon existed only if you're a historian you believe these things because

they're facts proved by evidence evolution is also a demonstrated fact the truth really is out there it's not a matter of opinion you have U you have written that God is a psychotic delinquent invented by mad Deluded people no I didn't say quite that I said something rather better than that oh well please tell us what you said please tell us um well I would have to read it from from from the book well please the god of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction jealous and proud of it a

petty unjust unforgiving control free a vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser a misogynistic homophobic racist infanticidal genocidal filicidal Pestilential megalomaniacal sedom masochistic capriciously malevolent bully so that's what you think of God yeah so uh you believe it's liberating to uh tell people that there is no God I think a lot of people when they give up God feel a great sense of release uh and freedom well then who did create the heavens and the Earth why do you use the word who you see you you you immediately beg the question by using the word who well then

how did it get Created well um by a very slow process well how did it start nobody knows how how how it started we know the kind of event that it must have been we know the sort of event that that must have happened for the origin of Life what was that it was the origin of the first self-replicating molecule right how did that happen I told you we don't know so you have have no idea how it started no no no no nor has anybody nor has anyone else evolution is a fact it's documented

By science right how did that happen I told you we don't know believe these things because they're facts proved by evidence so you have no idea how it started no no no no nor has anyone nor has anyone else what do you think is the possibility that there that intelligent design might turn out to be uh the answer to some issues in genetics or in Evolution it could come about in the following way it could be that uh at some earlier time somewhere in the Universe a civilization evolved by probably some kind of darwinian means

to a very very high level of technology and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this this planet um now that is a possibility and and a intriguing possibility and I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the um at the detail details of biochemistry molecular biology you might find a signature of some sort of Designer wait a second Richard Dawkins thought intelligent design might be a legitimate Pursuit um and that Designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe but that higher

intelligence would itself have had to have come about by some explicable or ultimately explicable process he couldn't have just jumped into existence spontaneously that's the point so Professor Dawkins was not against intelligent design just certain Types of designers such as God many many people are extremely illogical I'm skeptical of theep skeptical skeptical skeptical skeptical skeptical of claims for the abilities for the ability of random mutations and natural selection to account for the complexity complexity of the complexity the complexity to account for the complexity of Life careful examination examination Examination of the evidence four darwinian the

should be encouraged so isn't it interesting the more advanced our technology gets the more honest scientists secular otherwise are looking at the data and saying we've got to read we need a reset that's across the board from biological to geological to cosmological they're all realizing the old models are breaking apart they're falling apart so but the thing is you listen to These people say okay you know it required intelligent to design but they're not going to give the credit to God so therefore it must have been aliens but they're just pushing the problem further out

if you've just proven that that this can't happen here what makes you think it can happen there and furthermore you're just pushing the fur you're pushing the problem over to their world where we can never ever go test anything who created them and if Evolution is impossible here how did it happen there you know it's just ridiculous they don't know how it happened they're even admitting it but see people like Richard Dawkins is forced to make a position based on faith the very thing that he's opposed to in fact the more I look into this

guy you know it seems to me he's a deeply conflicted Soul probably with spiritual damage uh I'm not going to go through all this stuff but I mean here's a guy Who spends his entire life literally at war with somebody he believes doesn't exist yeah I mean he loves science but man it's getting crazy um and so they keep pushing this out there to other worlds and we get NASA and other space agencies pushing stuff like this over and over and over how many of you guys are seeing an increase in these kind of Articles

more and more articles coming out of other Earths out there that they're finding that we already talked About the vast distances the idea that we could look those many trillions of miles is just utterly absurd well this next video shows how life forming from non-living matter is completely impossible both here on Earth as well as anywhere else what is Faith it is is belief in the absence of evidence now I don't propose to tell anybody what to believe but for me believing when there's no compelling evidence is a mistake the Idea is to withhold belief

until there is compelling evidence when I talk to the public about astronomy and this question of life elsewhere in the universe the most commonly held Viewpoint I encounter is surely it's imp possible that we could be alone in the universe after all how could it be amongst this unimaginable number of opportunities for life to get going it only happened once only here and this is a Viewpoint held by many scientists and Talking Heads in popular media too do you think that there is life outside of Earth intelligent life in the universe absolutely there is life

elsewhere and almost certainly intelligent life it has to be the odds are just overwhelming there's 200 billion stars in this galaxy well now it looks like every Star has about 10 planets so there almost certainly intelligent life I assume it's the most frequently Asked question are we alone my best guess is that the Universe is teaming with life there surely are civilizations out there in the universe there are 350 billion galaxies out there in the universe but an argument based solely on cisal grounds comes with a fatal flaw and that is that it is perfectly

plausible that the probability of Life starting from scratch which we call abiogenesis is a number which is so small that it greatly outweighs the number of opportunities the number of Worlds out there in the universe for life to get going for example if the probability of Life beginning is one in septian say then the case for a crowded Universe evaporates in such a scenario we were the only example of a success and so we are simply unaware of just how unique how special we truly are our anthropocentric bias clouds our view this is precisely the

point made by friend of the channel Professor sha Carroll when he counters Elon musk's More widely held View that life must be common let us make no mistake though the vast numbers of stars the discovery that planets are common and that even potentially earthlike planets are common all of these points move the dial closer towards a crowded Universe scenario but critically without knowing the probability of a biogenesis we may simply be moving that dial from say one in OCT ion to one in septian and so crucially the statistical argument can Only really be made if

we have two pieces of information in hand we need both in order to complete our understanding the number of habitable worlds out there or potential seats for life more generally and also the probability of Life spontaneously emerging on those worlds astronomy has has clearly made great inroads about one of these two pieces of information but what does science tell us about the other what is then the probability of Life spontaneously beginning the probability of a biogenesis at a basic level we certainly know that no lab experiment here on Earth has ever succeeded in creating what

we would call life from chemical broths with conditions similar to that of the early Earth this was first famously attempted by Stanley Miller and Harold Yori in 1952 at the University of Chicago in what is now often considered the classic abiogenesis experiment they Exposed a beaker of water methane ammonia and hydrogen to Gentle Heating and electrical Sparks which emulated lightning now many organic molecules were produced in this experiment including 20 amino acids but neither in that experiment nor in any experiment since have we observed the spontaneous production of complex proteins nor DNA nor indeed something

crawling out of the test tube we do not know how to build even a simple bacterium this simplest Bacterium with its 256 protein cating genes we have no idea how to build it first of all we don't know how to build the molecules the four classes of molecules that are needed for it we don't know how to even if we had those four classes of molecules assemble them even into a the simplest of bacterium we don't know how to do that one can do that with the Technologies we have today we can make Technologies but

we can't even make the simplest bacterium anybody Who would say something contrary does not know what they are talking about show me the demonstration nobody has ever done it and it's not because of lack of of of effort it's not because of lack of will first of all they haven't been able to get the molecules to do this and if they could make the molecules even if we were to give them the molecules they wouldn't have the information there would be no inherent information in the DNA but even if we Gave them the DNA in

the structure that they wanted they wouldn't know how to put all the components together because of the sophistication within a cell the interactomes meaning that the interacting connectivity between the molecules Vander wal's interactions all of these have to be in the right place and in the right order for a cell to function if you found an ancient clay tablet with strange characters washed up on the shore you couldn't read it unless Someone had cracked the code but you'd still know the letters represented a language even if you didn't know anything else about the author or

his civilization language is recognizable even if you can't read it it take Morse code it has three basic parts dots dashes and spaces these three simple parts are combined to represent letters there are 26 letters in the English language which are combined to form over 400,000 words those words can of course Be combined into an infinite number of sequences or sentences there is evidence that DNA represents a language four basic units called nucleotides combin into a code for 20 amino acids from those few amino acids the body forms more than 100,000 proteins even if you

can't read DNA it still has all the Hallmarks of language a language that biologists are just now beginning to crack every tiny cell in Our body is packed with 3 ft of DNA 3 billion nucleotides the similarity between DNA and human language is uncanny in addition to codes both use similar techniques to pack access rearrange copy and translate information DNA seems to represent a language the language of Life an unseen author the creator of Heaven and Earth has left a testimony of his existence in the DNA of every living Thing for those who believe in

evolution they believe that millions of years ago somehow life had to arise from matter as as you think about that it's not just a matter of saying life arose from matter life is built on DNA you got to have DNA to arise from matter but not just DNA you've got to have a language system matter produces a language system matter has to produce information people who believe in evolution don't believe in God and people say matter gave rise to Life you got to understand matter had to give rise to zer zillions and zillions and zillions

and zillions of bits of information and over millions of years information keeps coming from matter new information to form all the different kinds of animals and plants zillions of bits of information you know what's interesting we've never seen matter produce one bit of brand new information that never previously existed not even one Bit when one looks at a typical textbook one will see some prehistoric Pond and molecules and those molecules coming together and forming a cell and those cells coming together and some slithering creature coming out of this Pond that is fallacious there is no

truth in that we don't even know how to make the molecules we are lost on how to do this we can't even make the basic building blocks but even if we could even if we Could from biological from Prebiotic type environment to make these with all the intellect that we put into this even if we could make them we have no idea how to assemble them this is a cell what is the origin of Life how do you get a cell like this what is the origin of something like this this is an amazing machine

a cell is an amazing machine it's not just a blob of protoplasm every day it gets harder to have the origin of life to come up with a scenario because The origin of life becomes more and more complex every day a cell is a factory it has the lipid Bayer which is extremely selective to let certain things in and not other things it has all of this substructure in here these little areas where where where where energy is is is made in here it has these microtubules which can form so you can move matter from

point A to point B if you go to a factory what you see is you see these overhead hanging machines that are Moving materials from point A to point B in in in in in these systems and the way they do this is they build these racks but you same things happens in a Cell you get these microtubules to move material from point A to point B and then as soon as the material is done moving the microt tual breaks down and then assembles some other place you say well why doesn't leave it there because

then the cell would become too rigid so it just rebuilds it it's just amazing Factory what's happening in a cell this is what we have to make if we want to have origin of life you got to start here you don't start here you start with a single cell just build a single cell that's what we have to do in origin of Life nobody has ever done this if you've been taught that simple forms of life have been made that is a lie that you are believing somebody told you a lie that has never been

done next slide organisms care about life Molecules don't care chemistry on the contrary is utterly indifferent to life without a biologically derived entity acting upon them molecules have never been shown to evolve toward life never molecules don't care about life they don't know anything about moving toward life they have no brain organisms want to move toward life and keep life going molecules don't care about life nobody has ever seen molecules assemble toward life never it doesn't happen Without a biological entity working on them I asked all my colleagues can you show me an example of

this of of molecules moving toward order moving toward an ordered system where you have a nonregular assembly regular assembly is like a a AA or ABAB that you can get pure thermodynamic assembly but non-order assembly is a nonregular pattern that's what you have in DNA we know from computer science you have to have non-regular patterns in Order to have complexity for living systems and I ask my colleagues do you have any example of molecules without a biological entity acting upon them moving in in in to to give an ordered assembly that is a non-regular pattern

and and they sent me papers where chemists have taken molecules and assembled them in that way is it non-biological entity you can't have a human doing this molecules don't move toward life well even if you want to Have molecules move toward life and you have human beings working upon them can the human beings do it and the answer is no next slide so almost every chemical synthesis experiment in origin of Life research can be summed up by a protocol analogous to this you they purchase chemicals generally in high Purity from a chemical company all right

so that's what they do they first purchase the chemicals they mix those chemicals together in water in High concentrations in a specific order under some set of carefully devised conditions in a modern lab then they can obtain a mixture of compounds that have resemblance to one or more more of the basic four classes of chemicals needed for life so what you need for life is you need carbohydrates nucleic acids amino acids and lipids that's what we know all life we know composes those four building blocks so they try to make those four building Blocks then

they publish a paper making bold assertions about origin of life from these functionalist crude mixtures of stereochemically scrambled intermediates much like Miller did in 1952 nothing has changed in 66 years nothing nothing's changed exactly where we were in 1952 is exactly where we have remained think about what's been done in science in the past 60 years nothing has changed An Origin of Life studies in 66 years that's important to Realize then you engage with the ever ever gullible press to dial up the knob of unjustified extrapolations watch the mesmerized late person exclaim you see scientists

understand how life formed then you encourage a generation of science textbook writers to make colorful deceptive cartoons of raw chemicals assembling from cells which then emerge as slythering creatures from a preor pond that is exactly what has done every one of their Experiments so what do I I say when someone asks me do you believe there is life elsewhere in the universe Carl Sean once famously wrote that faith is belief in the absence of evidence and honestly any scientist who says there has to be life out there is putting forward a position of faith not

one supported by observational evidence and cisal reasoning the most intellectually honest answer to the question is is I don't know okay so you see the complete and Total dishonesty with regard to biology and yet we're all taught that we evolved right do you see what's happening in science all across the board why should we trust these people about anything from cosmology to biology you know I've said this many times before when it comes to belief here are our choices in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth and he created us in his own

image in the beginning Nothing farted out the heavens and the Earth and we got here from G You by way of the zoo or in the beginning nothing farted out the heavens and the Earth and Etc did the goo to make you all right these are the choices how did we get here how did we get to this point I'm going to go through this real quick here uh and I'm not going to read everything that I have on this but personally I blame the public government sponsored education system and when you look into This

this is all relatively new information for me looking into this that it was based on a Prussian model that was established in the 1800s and an important component of the Prussian system was how it defined for the child what was to be learned what was to be thought how long to think about it and when a child was to be allowed to think about something else this is where the pavlovian bell ringing each hour of class time comes from in our current School system right you're only allowed to think about this for 45 minutes or

an hour ding ding ding get up you go over here now you're allowed to think about this ding ding ding and all the while there's a globe in the classroom sitting over there and it's part of everything that they're telling us now think about it none of you believe that we're on a globe from anything you physically saw you believe it because somebody told you there's a globe you believe it Because somebody you trust be it the teacher in the front of the room or NASA the government of the military showed you images that they

say were authentic and you believed it um prior to that education was a private practice usually taught at home a lot of times the church was actually the schoolhouse all that changed in 1902 when John D Rockefeller came along uh and he created the general education board and he around and basically got people to you know the Government to finance this whole thing and we have this public education was he just being a good philanthropist and general nice guy no he said to himself I want a nation of workers not thinkers that was his whole

thing and as I started looking into this even more uh that there are more and more people saying basically the same thing we don't want people thinking we just want basically slaves that we can control that we can Manipulate uh and then uh I stumbled across this article uh in 1916 this guy that was part of the Model T Ford Club International he was a technical editor he said and I'll just summarize this that basically we can run this stuff off of vegetables the model tea could run on vegetable ethanol and alcohol and stuff like

that in fact Accord according to the Articles that I was reading there was a way to switch between gasoline and basically vegetable-based and he was Just saying you know at the end here and Acer of corn stocks will produce 100 gallons of alcohol some corn stocks would produce 50% more then the distiller can turn around and sell his waist back to the farmer for cattle food nothing has been taken from it but the alcohol all the nitrogenous matter is still there to go back into the soil for as fertilizer imagine if cars right from the

beginning when Henry Ford created the Model T imagine if cars were running Off of food right plants that even the byproduct of distilling process could be sold back to the farmer use for fertilizer and nothing harms the Earth can you imagine how different our world would be but no you got Rockefeller out there Standard Oil right says meanwhile as Henry Ford was developing the assembly line for Mass quantity automobile production John D Rockefeller was extracting and selling ever greater quantities of oil to be used in Automobiles and Ford had told the New York Times he

said there is fuel in every bit of vegetable matter that can be fer fermented there's enough aloh and one year's yield of an acre of potatoes to drive the Machinery necessary to cultivate the fields for 100 years can you imagine how different life would have been this was allowed to continue and I started looking deeper into this and I'm just going to bypass this but this is a video of that was a video of a Guy who actually went to Ford Motor Company looked at the Model T Ford and showed you how the carburetor was

rigged to be able to switch between gasoline and vegetable alcohol ethanol and things of that nature that you could switch it but and we lived at a time when there was an agricultural you know was the the main thing in this country was agriculture right but you got John D Rockefeller over say no I want everybody to run off Of uh my gas so prohibition was engineered you ever wonder why they just made alcohol illegal right they they wanted a more moral Society no Rockefeller wanted to shut off alcohol so that people would be forced

in this automobile thing to use his you know uh oil to to run vehicles and then later Rockefeller realized that he could use his petroleum stuff and create medicine from it so then he took over the entire Medical system and made everything allopathic and uh sent people out there to do studies to say that yeah vegetables and diet that's not really anything that should be important that's quackery right we need pharmaceutical and so they basically made all of the education system shut down anything that taught nutrition and and teach only Pharmaceuticals and they would get

government grants and so forth Western medicine relies on big farmers petroleum Drugs which the body can never ultimately assimilate for big farmer there is no Financial incentive to heal you you ever think about that they heal you they just lost a customer no these guys are luciferians out there trying to just destroy everything um yeah there's a whole bunch of stuff talking about the the drug industry uh things of that nature so I'll just keep going past all this um then I got to the point where okay you Got Rockefeller basically creating the public education

system destroying Health Care in America making it all Alo uh based on uh petroleum-based drugs uh and then a committee was raised up in the 1950s a congressional committee and basically what they figured out is there was a gigantic project to rewrite history American history that was a whole big part of it so when you consider all this there's a whole lot more I didn't have time to go through Here uh unfortunately uh you you start thinking about is it really too big a conspiracy when you figure out what they've done to us right from

the start look in the 1920s and you start seeing these are books I recommend you check out the hunt for zero point secrets of anti-gravity propulsion electrogravitics these books right here are talking about in the 1920s uh a guy by the name of towns and brown had Realized that gravity had more to do with Electro gravitics than it had anything electromagnetism than it had anything to do with n Newtonian physics and stuff like that so they had created and figured out anti-gravity in the 1920s and this was written about prolifically from the 20s through the

50s until guess what NASA shows up in 1958 all that stuff gets buried and I started thinking geez if they had anti-gravity figured out in the 1920s by The time you get to the 60s don't you think it would be possible they could have faked anything in a warehouse they could have totally faked the whole thing look in the people have you ever heard of Edward Leed scalin I think that's how you say his name ever hear that name before Coral Castle that created this huge megalithic castle structure by himself he created this whole thing

huge like megat ton Stone thing and then There was something with a zoning issue and he had to move it so like overnight or something like that or in a very short period of time he moved this whole thing that he built by himself by himself he moved it to another location you think he might have knew something different about gravity than what we've been taught yeah I think so you look into our history and why is it that until the internet showed up none of us knew Anything about Tesla we weren't taught about Tesla

we were taught about Edison and Einstein you know Tesla had created free energy that he could have energized the entire world for practically nothing of course that meant that you know guys like Edison wouldn't make any money and JP Morgan that was financing this stuff wouldn't make any money we can't have that can you imagine if we had energy all over the world freely available to Us and we were driving cars based on PL and the byproducts of the distillation could be put back into the industry to grow more plants what kind of world will

we be living in right now instead of a world that's been totally robbed of everything we'd be living in Paradise you know but things were happening in the 1920s that are just amazing 20s through the 50s and in the 30s you had people the first men being launched up into the stratosphere Finally getting up into the sky you know early 1900s they create airplanes right so that we get off the ground then this guy goes up in a weather balloon type thing goes up there 30,000 ft or no it was 50,000 ft I think it

was and look down and said he described the Earth as a as a flat flat disc then a few years later the Russians got to 62,3 4 ft and they looked down and it said they didn't find any evidence of Curvature what whatsoever okay first people to get up into the stratosphere now you got people and you may have even said this yourself they're saying you can see the curve at the beach or you can see the curve at a commercial air L gets you know 35,000 ft yet these guys are shooting up 50 and

60,000 ft and Reporting we don't see any curvature then you go a little bit for further into the 1940s and you see stuff Like this we go forward about a decade to the 1940s 1948 this is an official CIA look up here cia.gov okay CIA Declassified document from the Russians I'm going to pull it up here in Adobe Acrobat it's a little easier because I've already highlighted some stuff here same document all right so the subject is Earth measurements 1948 Moscow Russia outer gravitational field and shape of the physical surface of the Earth they're trying

to figure out the Shape of the earth wait a minute I thought we knew the shape of the earth since Pythagoras and ostanes right well apparently the Russians didn't get the memo a study is made of the coordinates necessary for the solvability and uniqueness of solution of an integral equation by the aid of which the outer gravitational field and the shape of the physical surface of the Earth may be Determined so we go through this document a little bit here uh it says the methods of studying the shape of the earth so this is what

their goal is here they're outlining some of that the shape of the physical surface of the Earth can be determined with sufficient reliability on the basis only of data obtained from exact measurements well that goes without saying I suppose and let's keep going down here let's see we can regard the Potential of the real Earth by this equation here apparently as known correct to an additive constant at all points of the physical surface of the Earth and only on the surface whereas it is not determinable at all other points of space without knowledge of the

shape of the earth so they're still trying to figure out the shape of the earth here but since the shape of the Earth is not known the shape of the earth is not known 1948 the true coordinates of these points b l and H are unknown to us so the Russians are having trouble figuring out the shape of the Earth in 1948 let's look at another document here another Declassified CIA document up here right they're checking out the firmament in this one let's go back to acrobat 1953 now geophysics light scattering USSR trying to figure

out how does light work in the atmosphere Here so we get down to page 19 here it says dissertations defended in the scientific Council of The Institute of physics of the earth Institute of physics of the atmosphere and Institute of Applied geophysics USSR 1957 March 1957 looks like March 23 1957 apparently the dissertation represents the result of many years of study of the clear daytime Sky the observations were carried out in 12 locations at various Altitudes above the sea various climatic meteorological and synoptic conditions the observations were carried out mainly during High transparency of the

atmosphere in the visual range of the Spectrum in the absence of a snow cover in the investigations two instruments designed by VG fenov were used one of these was a visual photometer of the daytime Sky intended for measuring the brightness of the firmament interesting trying to figure Out the brightness of the firmament again 1957 the dissertation contains a certain formula of the brightness of the sky taking into consideration only the brightness of the first order and derived get this now on the Assumption of a flat Earth and giving some conclusions derived on the basis of

this formula so the Russians are trying to check out the firmament based on assumptions of a flat Earth in 1957 very interesting huh all right then meanwhile in the United States we have this character right here Admiral bird he Antarctica and project Fishbowl uh this guy is a highly decorated guy I'm not going to go through all that got many metals of honor and stuff like that amazing uh he goes to the North Pole and claims to have found an entrance to in Earth you ever dive into hollow Earth theory and all that stuff look

into what he did in 1926 that's an interesting Rabbit Hole after World War II the Nations especially Germany Russia and the United States become obsessed with Antarctica 1946 and 1947 admal bird leads operation high jump why they call it that because when you get to Antarctica you got a you're going to see an ice wall That's 200 to 300 feet tall you got to get over that then you have 1955 19556 animal bird leads operation deep freeze everything changes after that almost mediately after the nations Form the Antarctic treaty the United States and Russia start

launching nukes into the sky and NASA and DARPA are formed I'm going to skip past the next video you've probably seen it anyway but talking about operation Fishbowl uh that was part of project Dominic and the the name Dominic means of the Lord so we literally called our mission blowing up stuff in the sky operation Fishbowl of the Lord right now if you're trying to avoid A conspiracy you're not helping with the names here folks you know it really does have the appearance that you know there was all this great breakthroughs in science and all

kinds of stuff happening through the 20s 30s you get to the 40s they're trying to figure out the firmament the shape of the Earth all that stuff you get to the 50s everybody goes to Antarctica and it seems to me they found something and immediately they all pull out they say we need a Treaty they all create the international treaty that that you know when has all the nations of the world agreed on anything right and yet there's so many nations that are in 100% agreement on this Antarctic thing and then we create DARPA the

defense a the defense Advanced research projects agency all the black budget stuff right you know super soldier stuff and all that we create DARPA and NASA and then the first thing that happens well a few things happen United States and Russia engage in a dig race they start digging down as far as they can and as I think Joshua mentioned we've only been eight miles down yeah how many of you have seen in your textbooks all these pretty diagrams to right down to the core of the earth we know everything you know the mantle blah

blah blah all these different things they they've got these pretty artist pictures of every part of our Earth right down to the core have you guys Seen those pictures we've only been down eight miles not only do they have that for Earth but they have it for the moon for Mars for like all the planets right how ridiculous is that we don't know anything but the United States and Russia immediately did a dig race they did a missile race we're launching high altitude nukes into the sky and then we have the space race all indications

are when you just step back and look at it it has all the Indications of people realizing we're in a cage and they're trying to test the boundaries how deep is this thing how wide is this thing how high is this thing let's figure it out right all the activity from the United States of Russia especially has all the exact indications you would expect of somebody just realizing they're in a cage so we'll skip past that video where I kind of cover all that so what have we Learned so far kind of winding down here

they've lied to us about our Origins they've lied to us about our history they've lied to us about our political system they've lied lied to us about JFK the moon landings in 9/11 they've lied to us about gravity Fuel and energy they've intentionally dumbed us all down they've lied to us about nutrition and Healthcare they've drugged us all out of our minds for profit they constantly get us to kill each other in Unconstitutional Wars they've convinced us that they are the good guys and must be trusted they've told us God and the Bible are not

true nor to be trusted for truth they made science falsely so-called into a god they've convinced us we are nothing floating on a dust ball and in space and they've convinced US aliens are our creators and oh by the way they're coming back so with all this in mind is it really a conspiracy I don't think so Compartmentalization alone answers a lot of this issue there's a private know what the general knows no of course not does a mechanic know what the king knows no of course not look into the Manhattan Project look at how

many people were involved with that how much money was spent on it the vice president of the United States didn't even know what was going on the guy in the office right next to you didn't know what you were doing and you didn't know what he was Doing yeah compartmentalization works again the mechanic doesn't know what the king knows uh if you really want to dive deep into how various Nations could you know be in on it I recommend you check out these books right here conspirators hierarchy the story of the committee of the 300

of course William Cooper's book uh Behold a Pale Horse learn about organizations like the illuminatti Freemasons Vatican Jesuits trilateral commission Bilderberg meetings Bohemian Grove Committee of 300 Council of 13 and just is this is all just the tip of a very big Iceberg of control you understand how easy it would be to deceive us and everybody would not have to be in on it you start looking at people well I've got a cousin I got a friend or I got somebody a family member or whatever that works at Nasa oh congratulations you know somebody who

builds stuff wow awesome oh you got somebody who looks at data on a computer Screen wow awesome how many people have actually been in the space all you know is you built something that got loaded on that thing that got shot up and this if you do a time lapse of it you don't know anything yeah you trust your your friend or family member wouldn't have to be in on anything how many of you know they lose contact of their stuff over the Indian Ocean today even now they lose contact that's the perfect opportunity in

my mind for them to Switch something to feed data to the monitor you had Jean CR uh jiren did a video just recently uh quoting from Jean CR you know the guy Jean CR who was like the head of operations at Nasa during like Apollo he was uh Ed Harris played him in the Apollo 13 movie he is quoted as saying our simulations were so good that the operators would never be able to tell the difference between real world and simulation that's how good their Simulations were so even today 2019 they shoot something up there

they lose contact with this thing over the Indian Ocean that's the perfect opportunity for them to switch whatever they do and the data appears on the screen and the person reading the data wouldn't have to be in in on anything he's just reading what's on his screen their simulations are so good you wouldn't know the difference between real world and Simulation keep that in mind what government's trustworthy is our government trustworthy are the Russians trustworthy Chinese Israel Israel is trustworthy right yeah whatever governments are full of conspiracies the military answers to its government when you

think about there's only been about 550 something people I I think that have allegedly been to space and you know over half of them are the From the United States and about 216 of the 375 us astronauts served in the military I served in the military how many of you know military you know from the private right up to the general are trained to keep secrets guess what you get captured you get to give everything away to the Enemy No you're trained to keep secrets you're trained don't ask questions you get paid to ask questions

right do what you're told trust your government swear to Uphold what they tell you to do right right when you're completely brainwashed through trauma based mind control at boot camp and when I was in that paradig I was Joe Patriot I would have done anything they told me to do and I look at the astronauts a lot like that right now that you know think about what was going on at that time in the 60s if they told these guys probably good maybe in some cases possibly Godly but patriotic Men Hey listen your country needs

you to do this okay they would have done it but is it also coincidence the MK Ultra the government sponsored mind control program ran from 1953 to 1973 huh the Space Program 1958 to 1972 probably a coincidence space programs answered to their government All Nations who signed the antartic treaty are a suspect in my mind secret societies guess what they Keep secrets amazing you had Francis Edwin web a 33rd degreed Scottish right Freemason was the administrator for NASA for the majority of the 1960s Kenneth s kennik the overall manager of the Apollo program was a

33rd degree Freemason his brother C Fred kennik was a 33rd Sovereign Grand Commander the Supreme Council 33 mother Council of the world incidentally Southern jurisdiction USA Washington many other notable NASA Astronauts not all of them but many of them were also uh Masons or had Masonic ties so if we're dealing with a massive conspiracy the Freemasons certainly had no shortage of insiders including the astronauts themselves to help achieve it it it actually only requires very few Gatekeepers to keep the masses in the dark I'll skip this video right here what's the motivation well this billboard

kind of says it all in science We Trust freedom From religion Foundation now to be fair I'm against religion myself I can't stand religion I'm all about relationship relationship of the Creator religion causes problems but they're saying freedom from God that's what they mean right there but all they've done is create their own religion and they have their own prophets the prophets of scientism so in my opinion what is the motivation why would they lie about all This well it's my opinion first get people to doubt yahweh's word by destroying the very Foundation of our

Bible Genesis specifically the creation account how many of you know everything about modern science and everything that comes out of NASA is directly contradictory to the Genesis account in every way set up a new paradigm where God is out and science is in evolution removes yahua from the equation when Evolution finally runs its course it Becomes utterly bankrupt which it is right now introduce the idea of intelligent design but Deni the designer his true credit and place it rather on Ancient Aliens then promote the Ancient Aliens theme as much as possible in all forms of

media by perpetuating the concept of Earth as a tiny Blue Marble orbiting an average sun in an average Galaxy among trillions of other galaxies in an ever expanding Universe with so much quote unquote potential for life to Exist in such a vast expanse the idea of alien science being our creators seems a lot more plausible over time and heavy indoctrination and finally the stages set for our alien creators to return and bestow upon us their miracles signs and wonders in order to convince us all the more that all religions are false and then we put

our trust in them finally when Christ does return we are all convinced that he is the enemy and our United World gathers together to make War with him that's Revelation 1919 that's what I see as the motivation and it's EMP powered by the influence of media everything in media we've you know it's like they've trained us that we're monkeys why so that we can play the monkey see monkey do mentality they can show us something and we just believe it I'm going to show you something right here check this out I don't know if you've

seen this that do you ever see the time when they launched all five Space shuttles at the same time isn't this incredible all five space shuttles were launched at the same time how cool is that look at all these people right there right in the smoke from the takeoff they're all they videotaping with their iPhones and stuff check this out look at this guy he's still in the catwalk look at these kids playing right underneath there that's awesome you see the kids playing in the fire that's so Cool I'm I saw it on TV look

at this it's is amazing they had all these cruise ships out there checking it out too that was quite a sight to see huh and the best part's coming up they these guys had front row seats that right there is pretty awesome and then forget about the Tesla forget about Elon Musk look what these guys got to do Look at [Music] that that's the best cruise right there huh looks very real doesn't it that's how easy it is to fool us it's all it on TV must be true in the media there's a have many

of you ever heard of the seven Mountain prophecy anybody ever hear of this couple individuals pretty big in the Christian world uh Francis Schaefer Lauren Cunningham Bill brigh they came Up with an idea uh they they believe that was given to them by God they all had separate Visions on how to reach the world uh with the gospel message and when they came together and told each other you know what they felt that that that God was telling them they realized that they had each been given separate components of a bigger Vision which eventually been

morphed became morphed into what became known as a seven Mountain prophecy if you can't read it These are what they call the seven Mountain or spheres of influence that have a radical impact on our culture and that's religion family education media arts and entertainment government and business clearly if you think about those things they all have a massive influence on the way we think and the way you know cultures are affected and what imp impacted me as I looked at that is the mountains of media arts and entertainment have a tremendous Influence over the other

ones they influence all the other mountains why do you think it is that all the media that we look at over 90% of it is owned and run by six what I would say is luciferian run corporations they control everything everything you hear everything you see in the media and everything like that there is a way we can fight back I suggest that take a look at what Alex Kendrick said he's a Christian Filmmaker he said I found a Barna group survey that basically said the top three most influential factors in our culture were movies

television and the internet the church wasn't even in the top 10 this is echoing something that George Lucas had said prior he said the influence of the church which used to be all powerful has been usurped by film they get it that's a true statement right there the enemy gets it the people on The other side get it everything you're watching in TV is all about pans spermia Ancient Aliens aliens are coming back over and over and over again Earth globe Universal Studios Globe all this is in your face all the time all the time

we have YouTube channels we're being censored like crazy right I've got 197,000 subscribers most of my videos cap out at about 16,000 views there's washing it there's maybe 200 people here that's great 200 people that's awesome We are not reaching the world that's why I'm so passionate about trying to get this project off the ground seed what is this all about I'm basically trying to take everything that we've been talking about here at this conference everything that I've personally researched over the last decade and the information that other people that I like to read their

research take all that same stuff and do the same thing they've done put it wrap It all up in cool science fiction and put it out there in the project that I called C why because I'm seeding you with information that over time can be watered and produce the same type of harvest that they have used against us with all their media and all their movies and everything like that thank you for your time I appreciate it went a little long sorry about [Applause] that