again what time are you doing man I'm doing well how are you doing doing really good I just got back from uh actually uh just landed a new client here in Vegas where I live in sorry that's what literally just got back from that so all right like a couple minutes late but what time is it over there maybe it's 7 30 p. m okay so it's not too late for you no not at all what about there uh it's 11 30 a. m okay tomorrow uh yeah it's uh it's just you know that's awesome good deal man you're in you're in Singapore yeah Singapore in Asia so I'm half Halfway Around the Globe from you yeah for sure what so you what it would it what is it you do over there I'm looking as a consultant with one of the big four accounting companies Okay so um previously I used to work in manufacturing where the company manufactures uh solar panels and after that I I jump over to medical devices industry and then I landed a job being a consultant deploying smart Factory solutions to other Global manufacturers so yeah that's what I do what about yourself what is it I do yeah uh exactly what you're on this call for oh nice I I take it that you do this full time I do yeah and I've been helping ePay and Dan for probably the last four months with sales calls bringing on new students and stuff but yeah and that's what I got back from like I just this Dental client brand new client or a brand new practice here in town they need a new website they need lead generation they need email marketing I mean they need everything so it's gonna be probably a good uh five thousand dollar a month client maybe somewhere around there I I have to do all the numbers and stuff but yeah it's I mean that's exactly what I do so okay so do you do the sales so EP and then or do you are you also you started off as a member right yeah I started doing this seven years ago as a as a student I see okay yeah I've only been so lucky Dan with these sales for like the last three or four months I see and when you first started did you study on the side while having a nine to five job nine to five yeah I was a I was a recruiter so I recruited software Engineers I knew how to read a resume okay so how long did it take you to quit the nine to five to do this full time about a year and a half um okay we have three kids they were our twin boys were six months old at the time my daughter my daughter was like two and a half oh yeah it's uh yeah it was about a year and a half it took to to be able to pay off some credit card debt you know because you know we love credit cards and we put ourselves in debt but okay yeah and you know just to be able to make enough money to to feed a family of five nice so and at each moment you decide to quit was it when the league or did you give it a buffer like okay I gotta make sure that the lead gen make two times as much as what I'm drawing from my day job it was about uh what I was making like six to ten Grand a month is when I decided to quit okay well yeah okay yeah so I've been looking for like waste on trying to do maybe a side business or something you know just to make sure that I have an additional source of income uh you know the world being very volatile you know you never know when it's gonna be a last day especially with the latest tech layoffs so I just want to see if there's any additional you know Revenue that like a revenue of income that I can do you know and I came across uh this lead generation website by uh eBay and I read through it you know this is something interesting so that's why I want to set up a call and to find out more have you been have you been looking at things for a while or is this like yeah it's been a while um uh previously I tried to do like you know stuff like Drpship Drp Shipping but you know that was uh it's terrible you know terrible margins and you know it's it's more not fat so if there's no demand for your product you know your store just kind of dies off as we're looking at um uh affiliate marketing what else uh digital agency you know but like like those were interesting ideas but you know I never really really went into it so I did more searching then that's why I came across uh eBay's website on lead generation so yeah would have been the biggest reasons of not joining those those other things uh I think it's more of um I don't know maybe there was a sense of Doubt where they can really work I I saw that there was a lot of uh websites doing digital agencies I saw this a lot of website doing Drp Shipping so I thought you know if I put a communist uh brand new competitor I'm gonna have to compete with them lead generation is not something that I've heard a lot about it's not really uh who says I don't really hear much about lead generation businesses in Singapore so that's why I thought okay maybe this is my word for short so yeah yeah and that's the thing it is it can work anywhere in the world right and I don't know what kind of businesses are in Singapore like Roofing siding you know window installation you know stuff like that right um yeah but this can work anywhere in the world no matter where where you're at you know we have students in the Netherlands that have clients in Canada and the US or you know and they also have clients in the Netherlands so um no matter where you're at it will work um and ultimately you are you will be able to scale this business but yeah do you have a pretty good idea of what it is we do yeah so after reading through it what I understand is we build a website for the client the client may be in whatever industry we do some SEO activities to break it to the top few or maybe yeah the top one or two on Google then we strike a deal with the client to drive clients to their website or rather for the visit us to our website to give the acquired a call if you are interested in your services then we I don't know we can take a cut from the payment or we charge a monthly retainer to the client so that's what that's the general overview that I have um is there anything else that I'm missing out no I mean you you have a great idea of it and what I love about it so you you mentioned margins right yeah the margins on this are so big because if you have a website that costs you you know let's just say 15 to 30 dollars a month and you're charging a client a thousand dollars a month or 750 a month or 12.
50 a month you who your margins are just so much bigger because we're not everything we do is organic right and so we're not you're not having to run Facebook ads or Google ads or pay for products for Drp Shipping or anything like that uh so and that's why I love this is be we're building simple websites uh Dan actually created those own web Builders so you're not having to do you know build on um WordPress or weebler Wix or anything like that you can if you want but we teach everything in what we call snaps which the scalability with snaps is so quick where you could just duplicate a website and like go into a different area right and I'll show you all that but one one thing that I think you'll really enjoy about this are the margins are so much bigger you're looking at 90 profit margins rather than you know 30 to 45 percent um so sorry are you able to hear me clearly yeah okay all right so yeah yeah so that's good because that's the thing with like products we always have slim margins and after you even sell the product most of the profits will go to the ads and whatever that is left is basically like sense for your profits yeah so you know hearing big margins like 90 that's that's great yeah what are your goals like let's say six months from now like what or a year from now monetarily what do those goals look like to you okay so uh you've been in this for a very long time for seven years right so let tell me if it's realistic so right now my monthly salary is probably about five grand so in a year would you think that's possible for me to you know generate the revenue from lead gen to match my day job easily yeah you could do that yeah you could do that working anywhere from one to two hours a night three hours a night once you get off your nine to five or on the weekend or whatever you could you could definitely get there we just had a guy um they him and his wife joined end of September October wife quit her job so a month later and then a month after that so two months into the program he quit his job and they have a family of five so their very first month they did three thousand dollars up front with Seventeen hundred and fifty dollars a month reoccurring sorry can you repeat that 3 000 notes a month so their first month they did three thousand dollars up front okay and each month after that is seventeen hundred and fifty dollars that was just in their first month and then the month after he quit his job so they both took it full time so you could get there pretty quick if you really want to and we have all the different sales strategies our whole course is set up step by step okay yeah so let me let's see yeah go ahead yeah okay so I have a question yeah so I have a question so let's say um I'm in Singapore right so I don't know the market is a bit I don't actually I'm not really too sure whether should I just I'll get the my own country or should I you know Target clients in the US because since you guys are busy in the US you guys have so much knowledge about Market there and I can just hop on that knowledge and just do it so I don't know what's your take on this because I don't know Singapore I know like other people have done um you can get clients in Singapore just doing the research that we're going to provide to you and show you through that research yeah for example this guy beer and in the Netherlands the Netherlands is a little bit laid back um they they're Carefree and they're not like oh I want to grow this business so he had a hard time finding he has some clients there but most of his clients are in the US and Canada because especially in the U. S they love to spend money so it doesn't matter where you're at you can Target businesses here in the us as well that's not okay all right but we do students in Singapore as well and you know I think there's like 20 something people in Singapore oh you have members from Singapore yeah I wouldn't dig and find them but just here I'll just show you here yeah um can you see my screen yep um New Zealand yeah Singapore 20 people in Singapore nice so you could you could definitely do this it doesn't matter where you're at you could have clients in Australia if you wanted to yeah right but here is our training so everything we do is build it first and then offer leads so let's say you own a roofing company right it's a different cell if I was going to come to you and and say hey I can get you leads but it's not going to take it's you won't get them for like a month or two months right and but if I build it first and I come to you and I say hey ismer is it did I say your name right ismer Izmir yeah yeah hey Izmir I see you on a roofing company I have leads coming through um right now for uh Roofing services in your area how about you try this out for a week for free and let me know what you think let me know if you're are you looking to grow your business right now if I offer you leads and I have leads coming in and you you start you know getting calls right away why wouldn't you want to work with me because I'm helping your business grow like that right yeah so that's why we teach everything build it out first these few first few sections are going to be more of like you know welcoming you to the course getting the lay of the land and how you know how we run our how we were on the Facebook group um the history of lead generation all of that so um the very first thing we're going to teach you is surveying the land what niches to go to what to stay away from and you could do this in your local area first you could do it anywhere and start searching in the US or Canada Australia if you wanted to go that route I always say start out in your area to get used to it to really understand how the business model works and if you want to scale out you can so you know by understanding search volume of keywords um what low hanging fruit is is how you find a niche that you're going to dominate by understanding what the map listings are doing yeah those Google Map listings so we're going to walk you through because again we want you to pick the first the niche right away to be able to dominate so we're going to walk you through that that research now after that is when we teach you how to build out the website again you can use any website builder we teach everything on snaps because it is so scalable all I have to do is hit click now and let's say it's carpet cleaning um lead generation now you could build websites for people on this platform as well like for example my new dental client I'm probably going to build it on this this um platform this template here because I've already done it's a nice template everything's already set up for me I'm gonna charge him two grand for it and all I have to do is change out the pictures change out the content all of it right okay if I want to I could look Dental um maybe I'll use this one is that a landing page Dennis three Dennis I don't know I'll probably maybe I'll use one of these ones interesting um look pretty new um so I what I'm gonna do because he this guy what his whole plan is is to have a bunch of different offices throughout the US and so we're going to start out with one and then we're going to start scaling out into different areas so now what I'll do is I'll build my website for him the heel Hill loan right so it's quick money into my business I'll charge them 50 to 100 a month for me to host it it charges it cost me maybe ten dollars a month so I'm making extra money on the back end and then also doing as SEO so you can make quick money into your business that way and we are going to show you in this section here in the sales section how to do that too right um but when it comes to lead gen oh that's because I put Dental um so let's say it's cleaning services but I want it to be carpet cleaning you could make any one of these templates anything you want it's going to build out the whole website for me all I have to do is come in here and edit I live in Peterson Nevada so Las Vegas area oh Henderson carpet cleaning services right um and now it's not going to be like cleaning services we already have thousands of stock photos already uploaded in here so if I wanted carpet cleaning right boom pick the photo now it's going to be carpet cleaning but let's say I like the template but I want it to be patio installation you can upload your own photos in here as well but again I can make this anything I want right and just change out the the content you know this is going to be you know Ed Henderson patio installation boom now here's a cool thing because let's say I'm already done with my website I've done everything now I published it let's just say this says published all I need to do actually we'll just use this one for example let's delete this let's say I wanted to go into hair extensions or we'll use my mobile detailing one Eugene mobile detailing all I need to do is duplicate that within seconds it's going to create a whole new website Boom come in here and edit it it's going to build out the whole website and now same exact website all I need to do is come in here change out the information and let's say it's Henderson mobile detailing so I'm going to ultimately just change out the content not you don't want the content to be the same out the addresses change out everything to where everything is talking about Henderson right yeah so the scale my website's already done all I have to do is change out some of the photos and content and hit publish and I'm ready to go so you could scale this really easy as well you think your average client is a thousand dollars a month that's twelve thousand dollars a year another get another client what in what business model can you add one client and give yourself a twelve thousand dollar a year raise that's the thing I like to think about this so we say hey build your first five to ten as fast as possible you might not get all 10 ranked right away and rented right away but maybe three or four of them or five of them are going to be hitting right away that way you can hit that four or five thousand dollars a month that you just said you want to go you can hit that pretty quick all right sense yeah okay any I'm just going to delete this to clean up my thing any questions so far uh let me see uh so how how do you track sales from a client so for example you already sent the the traffic from your website and they call the client uh how do you track all of that activity between the caller and the client so everything we track is like through our phone tracking system all the colors and everything now that's why I like doing a flat fee is because no matter how many calls are coming through or whether they close them or not I'm charging a flat fee if I do a percentage I have to really trust that business that they're telling me the truth that they did close them or they didn't close them right yeah if I'm doing like a per lead then you're really having to track all the phone calls coming through sometimes they'll say well this one wasn't a lead this one was a lead they'd have to go and listen to the call yeah there's pros and cons to everything and so when we talk to you about the monetization in here in this section oh shoot it's gonna be log back in hold on uh monitor when we talk about the monetization we're going to go over commission model obviously low risk for business owner pay-per-lead flat fee a hybrid so I have one client that pays a 500 flat plus a 15 commission he's the only one I do that with we're a commission because I do trust him um Arbitrage model where you become the business owner or Consulting teaching and educating a company we're not original but is lucrative where you could charge five ten fifteen thousand dollars to teach them how to do it like go in there and consult with them on it right so that we have a bunch of different models that you can choose I like a flat fee because it's very hands-off now after the build out that's when we're going to show you how to optimize it right we're going to dial in that content a lot of people think I don't want a lot of content on the website content is king that's how Google's algorithm works it reads content right just like you and I left to right um and ultimately what's going to happen is that's going to help out with SEO but we're also going to go all the way to you know blog commenting influence you know what is guest posting so this is all has to do with search engine optimization is a popularity contest what websites they have some um traffic or whatever it is that's going to link back to your website some popularity that's going to give your website more juice to grow we're also going to show you how to set up the map listings and as well because we want to take up as much uh as much space on the first page of Google as possible and also show you how to actually optimize the the Map listing too right okay you can actually optimize photos and and stuff like that off lifting off listing optimization which is you know citations and stuff like that backlinks to your website or to your Map listing and then the last portion so I've done my research I know the niche I'm going to get into I built out the website I've ranked it calls are starting to come in now we're going to walk you through the sales portion again like I said we have a bunch of different sales strategies the one I really like is the leads in advance hey why don't you try this out for a week and let me know what you think I would love to help your business grow everything we do is exclusive so I want to help your business grow and not a lot of businesses hear that so basically let's say if you're serving one client in an industry let's say a a company that does Carpet Cleaning uh how often would they ask for an exclusive exclusive from you say they say they're saying that okay um our engage your services but you cannot approach other carpet cleaning companies for this service is it common in the US if you're doing lead generation for one company in one area because again I live in Henderson Nevada I live in like a uh so Las Vegas is in a valley right yeah it's only 40 minutes to the 40 minutes to 50 minutes to the very north of Las Vegas okay yeah however in in States like New York or Florida or um Arizona Arizona's kind of a valley too like my client that I have in Henderson he'll go to North Las Vegas right yeah it's not that far but in California you have like San Francisco you have la which are six hours away right so when you have total distance like that if I'm helping one person in San Francisco well they're not going to La so you can build out one in LA or you can build out one in Dallas Texas so that's why we do exclusivity in that area that business grow in that area right where let me show you one of mine here um it's my Quickbooks sending out invoices um Lakeland for Florida so I have this one here in Lakeland ranking number two there ranking there that ultimately um they have two different locations they go to so I also have one in Orlando now let's say they decided they don't want to do one and do it in Lakeland anymore and they just want to stick to Orlando I can then take these leads switch this number on the back end and find a different company that these are going to go to okay look at this this is how I find most of my people as a home advisor all right home advisor is a lead generation software company now the downside and you can ask any company that uses home advisor in the US they hate HomeAdvisor is they take one lead if I fill out my information here it's not just going to chimi it's not just going to MKE it's going to every single one of these businesses or they're paying for my information okay so that's why businesses want exclusivity and they are willing to pay you for that all right does that make sense yep okay now with our Facebook group we have 7 000 people worldwide we've been doing it to uh Dan's had this group for eight years okay he was doing lead generation back in 2010 early late 2010 early 2011 and he actually started the idea got clients mastered it and then that's when he decided to create his course so he wasn't someone like you see out there that's like oh buy a course and then create my own course right he's thought through every objection everything that you can think of when it comes to lead generation that's why this is the best lead generation course out there ultimately we are a family um you ask a question we're going to help you this one just got um this one just got posted 20 minutes ago so it needs to be oh it looks like Eddie answered it um lots of help lots of support we want to make sure that you're successful every Tuesday and Thursday we also do go live in our so we were live uh yesterday for an hour and a half you could jump in and ask questions and get help um there's no reason for you not to be successful in this course let's just see here yeah sunny sneaker nalanka 2020 2020 16. 2020 so we haven't had someone from Singapore sign up since about 2020.
but ultimately these are these are still students that are in our program um so anyways I guess question for you is can you see yourself doing this business model yeah because I'm I've been looking to I want a business model where I do the work and then I can be hence off I don't want to be I want to be working on the business rather than working in the business yeah I mean yeah so previously when I was doing things like um a few years ago I was doing e-commerce with my friend where we were selling um protein supplements so we were doing a lot of the groundwork so whenever the stock comes in we gotta we're we're the ones floating into our warehouse we are the ones doing the Fulfillment and all of that we will when we started out we also were doing the delivery we were doing the customer service so it was so painful and with the supplements business margins are absolutely terrible it doesn't make sense at the end of the day so I want to do something where you know it can run on run on the business can run on its own yeah so it doesn't require a lot of um intervention it doesn't require a lot of my let's say I don't I don't have to be there to make sure that it runs you know with the supplement business I have to be there every day even with my day job so it was absolutely painful yeah for sure yeah yeah and right now I have a newborn so that that is something else you know with a newborn yeah a lot of yeah I get it yeah they require a lot of your attention and whatever little time I have left I need to make sure that I fully use it you know yeah so yeah well uh you question for you again is do you want to join our course so yeah so um how how do I get started and all of that yeah so what I want to do for you because the exchange rate is at 1. 3 right now it's kind of like Canada is actually a little bit worse um I want to offer you a pretty good discount our course is usually seven thousand eight hundred and sixty dollars what I want to do for you is I want to take two thousand dollars off so it's five thousand eight sixty which would come to like seventy five hundred and it comes at 7 42. so how much is it in USD 5860 USD 7642 in the Singapore dollar right um what most people do so the way it works you pay I get all of your login information I add you to did you ever add me on Facebook no not yet I'll add you to my Facebook I put you in the Facebook group I have you introduce yourself um you know tell us who you are where you're from all that good stuff and then you could get you could get started on it right away most people will put on a credit card um I don't know if you have a credit card or if you need to set up a payment plan I could set up a payment plan as well yeah so that's the next thing I want to talk about so you live with the uh payment plan uh what are options that you offer I can customize it so my question for you then would be how much cash on hand do you have that you would be able to put down today uh let me see so let's see if I'm paying my credit card what I want what I would if you were if you were like hey I could pay it off in full what I can do too is we will then build your first three Legion sites for you you just pick the niche and wherever you want it Singapore over here whatever um we'll build out your first three websites for you as well okay uh right so that's seven six four zero in Singapore dollars uh so I'm just looking at the the cash flow would it be possible if I do like a shop months payment so that will give me sorry you did you say a short month payment shop month demon 12 months paper yeah so that would allow me to have like uh uh healthy cash flow to bear for everything and to do this so yeah how much money could you put down uh let me see okay yeah just give me a minute I'm trying to work out the numbers you know if I was a single man I would have dropped this okay in an instant yeah yes let's let's do this because you can always pay it off sooner right it's not about the money to to us or anything like that how about we do this it would be 488 and some change um 58.
60 whatever 12 maybe 488 33 for 12 months does that work uh full 88 so that's about 6 36 yeah yeah sorry I'm just doing the I'm just doing the conversion oh you're good yeah I'd be 636. 88 a month yeah yeah I think if if I were to pay off um 6 36 every month for a year I think that will be that would help a lot a lot okay because yeah because to pay off seven thousand six hundred in what food payment that's a bit tough on me yeah oh and you have a new baby too I want to help you out you're going to be making money you'll pay it off sooner I'm not worried about that yeah okay well what here what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna send you a link to update the card in the system that way you don't have to give me your card information okay so in the chat box go ahead and update that just click on that link and then update it make sure you use your email that you use so it connects to our system that we have on the back end and then I'll run that real quick and um I'll get you into the group I'll get you all of your login information and everything all right yeah I guess you know that previously I joined uh Drp Shipping sort of a group and that was disappointing well let's not be disappointing I promise you that yeah I just thought that that I know it doesn't matter how many times you fail doing business you just need the right one I really hope this is the right one my whole goal ismir is to make sure that this is your last stop that you yeah I keep on looking at all the silver objects out there there's shiny object syndrome you can reach out to me anytime our whole goal is to make sure that you're successful just don't give up I'm telling you for the next year for all you can into this in your extra time and you will be successful in doing this I promise you that okay yeah just give me a minute I'm talking about the credit card information okay now you're good take your time and then I'm going to send you a document that just states that um you're not going to pay more than the 58. 60 and I'll just have you sign that here as well what's your last name s h a h s h s h a h Sharp oh sorry okay is mere shock which is the February terms so does this mean that every month the 488 will be charged to my credit card yes sir okay all right so I just sent you an email uh that has the promissory note in it that just States the payment plan that you agreed to the payment go ahead and fill that out for me and did you update your card yet uh yeah yes just give me a minute okay thank you and then I'm gonna send my Facebook link too so you can just add me as a friend on Facebook real quick after you're done with that thank you thank you questions yeah so I've just submit that the credit card details okay all right and then let me know when that promissory note signed as well and then I just have to let you pay know man I'm gonna send you your login information [Music] all right you should get an email from snaps it has all of your login information as well yeah and then I'll wait for your friend to request so I completed the Facebook too how did you find us again so it was true Google so it was just I think I was Googling what did I Googled I forgot it was probably like uh now I totally forgot why I Googled I just came across uh eBay's website okay nice so yeah so so who is ePay so ePay was one of Dan's students well I mean he the way it worked out ePay became dance student and he ultimately took what Dan was teaching yep created a Blog ranked it for what people were searching and started selling leads to Dan okay so he's like a partner with Dan now has his Legion like he turned what Dan was doing and teaching him into a lead gen business for Dan okay so that's a conflict of interest no because Dan buys leads for me pay okay so why didn't then like set up like have his own website that oh he yeah that's how I that's how we initially found Dan was through his blog when I first joined because he used to run his own blog okay yeah so I'm I'm filling up the document now so I'm just curious like how much is your monthly Revenue now um a good amount is it like six six figures or seven figures no no five okay it should be more I took a break in 2021 um for personal reasons let me see so like would you say it if you make double of what your day job previously oh easily I mean oh today alone I wrote out invoices for I landed two new clients today that was three grand I think just today alone I do invoices on the first and 15th I sent out and most of them are on the on the middle of the month yeah close close to 20 grand in invoices okay is it up front or recovery reoccurring so they automatically go out okay yeah I think there's a small area on the beat for the maturity date so it's uh first of Jen it should be 2024 yeah yeah but this is a two two four so if you take a look at that what does it say S zero one zero one two two four instead of like 84.