[Music] yeah that makes sense but in real time when you started hearing that cam he was going to be the vice president take me through that if I'm not mistaken you called Jay about that right I don't even think Jay was in the country because I remember calling Jay and telling him like yo what the is going on but like I said it's in the music man can't go on this way if you put puppy in the oven do they make them biscuit for Hungry dogs in the kitchen while they eat the Kitt yeah it's
all in the music but yeah that was a shock to me why was you shocked I know when I interviewed Dame he said y'all overreacted he said he was going to make you a vice president just like him since y'all both had labels I don't think that's true cuz I was trying to get a label for state property for the longest you know I had an imprint and everything that I did on my own called Criminal background records but it never came to fruition and I don't think that set well with Jay nether uh him
being on vacation in the hand that c was the vice president but like I said maybe that's what was what Dan was thinking it just we never had that conversation I remember ble calling me like yo what the hear this like what's going on was like Dam just announced cam is being Vice prenty I was more I was more so hurt for blee because if anybody I think blee would have should have would have been in that position being though that he was there he was there even but for me but like I said man
I don't all that sh old man I don't really care about none of that [ __ ] I mean I'm good I'm neutral I'm cool with everybody I'm just where I'm focusing on me N I feel you I heard the first time that you met too short was the first time you ref for J yeah first time I met to short I met to short and Jay at the same time they was working on uh it was all good a week ago yeah that was the first time I met met short he was in the
studio doing that record that's the first day I met Jay too first day I rap for Jay how was that like be C that's how that was like it was good it was good enough to land me a deal with Rockefeller records he had a couple raps I was rapping for him and he was sitting there was the they get up walk out the room come back in people was R wrapped again he get up leave the room but I heard when he was leaving the room he was going crazy he was telling the people
that I came in with like don't let him go back to Philly they was trying to keep me then in New York I had to get back though I just gave Pac 1500 back he owe me a stack I was like nah I got to go back to Philly and it was a Friday I might not seen P all weekend how they get back in contact with you I was around they had to find me I didn't know I didn't I didn't know them at then uh Sadi the people that took me to New York
that I roll with them and members from Philly most want I ain't really know them they was from different parts of the city so I was from South Philly so you know at them times in Philadelphia is real Geographic so I wasn't about to stay in New York with a bunch of N I ain't know I really wasn't even trying to go I almost a I almost missed that meeting almost missed that meeting for a dog fight I was trying to go to a dog fight yeah your bu had to be crazy crazy because I
mean back then it was no social media or anything so no cuz you had to be everything you said you was you had to be that people did their homework in different ways then today you had to be who you said you was the raps that I had like it was what big say Hot 97 Ry ready it was just at that that particular time I guess the the lyrics what I was spitting to J you I mean he was he he he loved it I Ain had no mixtapes I wasn't floating I a had
no buzz on the radio I ain't had none of that I came to New York with a bunch of people I didn't know it was just me my pistol and a and and maybe the seven eight raps that I had what's any other label trying to sign you they didn't know me they didn't know of me I mean afterwards yeah I got approached by a couple labels I saw Rough Riders I went the Rough Riders puff one of the sign me bad boy un was trying to sign me a couple labels but uh I stay
with Rockefeller Rus