Cliffe Knechtle | Cliffe Asks: Was Jesus Blowing Smoke or Telling The Truth? | Give Me an Answer

eyewitness testimony is crucial the question that you have to figure out is when someone claims to be giving eyewitness testimony are they blowing smoke or are they speaking the truth to me like according to our background knowledge what happens to a person when they're dead they they're their corpse rods so like we hear stories like like someone tolds me a story about a guy who rose from the dead I'm thinking you know I need more than just you know testimony for such an event because the initial probability of of someone rising from the dead is

is significantly lower MH than the idea of someone being Li a liar or mistaken or you know you know crazy okay so so with the resurrection I think you know the probability that the gospels are mistaken or they they have falsehoods in them about the event is is higher than the idea that the Jesus rose for of De you if you wait if you compare the two okay so what type of evidence do you require before you can believe that Jesus rose from the dead what are you looking for type of evidence what type of

evidence would be enough to convince you if it's a historical event I'm not sure there is enough evidence could ever in principle be enough evidence thanks for your honesty historical event right exactly and I would I would insist that it's possible that you're using a double standard when you attack history you got to be consistent and you got to come up with your tests whatever they are and you got to use them consistently now I'm going to ask you to to think about this is not your real problem with the resurrection of Christ not an

historical problem but a philosophical problem well yeah I mean you're interpreting the evidence in a philosophical way yeah you have to have a philosophical theory on how to interpret evidence yeah so yeah it's a philosophical problem but but isn't this your philosophical problem Miracles cannot take place I'm not saying that I'm I'm distinguishing between knowing a miracle occur and having the miracle actually occur I'm not saying that I'm making a I'm not making a metaphysical claim Jesus didn't rise from the dead I'm not claiming that I'm just saying we could never know historically what that

event occurred because it would always to improbable this mere testimony could not be good enough evidence for such an advance well sir if you're going to tell me that eyewitness testimony is not good enough evidence but then you're not going to give me a realistic test to determine whether it took place I'm going to say there's a double standard here why is there a double standard because you said to me historical eyewitness testimony is not enough for that type of event well if you say not enough then you got to explain to me what is

enough well it's never enough okay that's what I mean by not enough Never Enough Never Enough well because you know you know look at James Randy a skeptic he he uh he he uh tests these psychics or these conjurers or whatever you know and the the these conjurers in Charlton you know convince crowds of people that they have you know they can talk to the dead or everything like that like hundreds of thousands of people are convinced that these people can like work miracles or talk to the dead and then under control conditions you know

James Randy investigates these people and finds you know that the the evidence doesn't hold up you need a stricter form of evidence for that type of thing no but he studies the issue and because he sees the evidence is that there's charlatan involved here he rejects it so study the evidence read the gospels and ask yourself are these charlatans yeah but when he was studying the evidence it wasn't historical evidence he was right there with the person under test under control conditions you can't do that with Jesus you're right you can't do that with Lincoln

or Washington or Napoleon those aren't extraordinary claims like the resurrection no reason to be as initially skeptical that Abraham Lincoln exist and that that Jesus rose from the dead because the fact that Abraham Lincoln exist it's not an extraordinary claim like the you know the resurrection but if there is a supernatural God then it's totally reasonable that a supernatural God could perform a miracle but that doesn't raise the probability of whether or not a miracle occur because the fact of the matter is these things don't usually happen at all whether or not God so what

if these things don't normally happen if there is a supernatural God you have to be open to the possibility of this Supernatural God performing a miracle I never said I wasn't I just said we could never know in principle historically that it occurred I'm not making a map physical CLA that it did didn't OCC my plea would be use whatever tests you determine are fair to determine historicity and apply them to the gospel yeah but what I'm trying to say is that that sort of event could not be verified historically sir if someone dies rises

from the dead and eyewitnesses see this occur why are you saying that's not plausible I I don't understand they saw it they saw him die they saw him rise from the dead and then these guys who claimed that were willing to die not for their belief they were willing to die for what they claimed to have seen the dead Christ risen from the dead the fact that they were willing to die for it gives it a great deal of credibility just look at Watergate a lot of people die for things they thought they saw no

they don't people are not willing to die for what they know to be a lie well I never said they knew to be knew to be a lie fine when you read the gospels it's Crystal CLE those guys bend over backwards to say you know we didn't believe that Jesus had risen from the dead until one day he stood right in front of Thomas and he said right here Thomas take your hands and put them in the nail prints in my hands take your hand and thrusted the spirit in my side that's exactly my point

that's not historical evidence Thomas needed to touch the living resurrected Jesus in order to be convinced yeah he didn't look at some book written 2,000 years ago to of that which means that the evidence is not good enough for us as it was for him yeah but Thomas had a heart to know Christ and if you had that same type of heart to know Christ he'll reveal himself to you I don't know how but Thomas wasn't just some cute cynic playing games read John 11 in John 11 Jesus says to his disciples let's go to

back to Bethany and Thomas says Whoa let's go with him he's going to we're going to have to die with him there so Thomas had a heart that was open he was sincere and then Thomas hit a wall of doubt and he couldn't hop over the wall and Christ met him in his doubt Christ will do the same for you issue though you're you're turning this into a psychological issue you're not really addressing my argument you're saying you know I you're assuming that I must not have the heart to because I'm not convinced but just

look at my argument independent of whether what I what how I feel or whatever whatever my emotional motivation is I'm just saying that Thomas needed evidence where he had to touch Christ feel his wounds in order to be convinced that he was the son of God yes so why can't we have that that evidence I mean it's not it's not that wasn't historical evidence he was going by in order to be convinced he would not be convinced unless he had that evidence so how is historical evidence adequate enough for that sort of event because obviously

God has deemed it's adequate enough for the majority of followers of Christ the majority of followers of christs you're already assuming the truth of your CLI by saying you're by assuming what you think God it's internally consistent well a lot of things are in internally consistent in false internal consist well where's the falsehood of Christ Resurrection I'm talking about the probability of weighing against you know the evidence of the event I'm not saying whether or not it's true or false or whether or not it occurred that's not my argument I'm talking about you know whether

or not we could really know whether it occurred historically I'm not I'm not saying it necessarily has to be false I'm just saying just use Fair test to test the gospels with to determine their historical veracity the evidence is Matthew Mark Luke and John are reliable and you're simply saying no they're not you you cannot convince me that a resurrection took place based on simple historical knowledge and I'm saying go over your life with a fine tooth comb and if you're going to be honest with yourself you're going to realize that you have a faith

today that's based on a lot more shoddy evidence than that what faith is that I don't know sir but obviously you're not committing suicide which means you're obviously a motivated person you're living for someone or something now ask yourself what's the evidence that what I'm living for is true what's the evidence that what I'm living for is really true and reliable well you must know uh what I'm living for is the search for what to live for you're living for the search to what to live for yeah I'm searching for what to I mean the

search itself is very fulfilling to me but it's it's it may change but you know you know it's so are you living for the search that's most of it yeah okay but if you're living for the search that means you're never going to find I said I never said I was always going to live for the search I just said currently I'm living for the search okay and my point would be I respect you for searching but I have talked with a lot of people who just live for the search that's tragic cuz that's assuming

that you can't find truth and you just live for the search my point is yes search for truth but when the evidence points in a direction follow the evidence what rational system can we have on Earth yes that would be best suited to God because you know you said that the liberal values you know feeding the hungry is is is something good in line with Christ but how can you make a system that forces people to give up their property to give to other people great point right shouldn't we have a secular government but allow

people to freely pursue Christ as opposed to forcing them to follow the rules of God great and Order protect life liberty and property that is one of the reasons I'm very grateful I live in this country cuz I think this country has struggled to do what you just articulated that we're going to have a government we better not get so arrogant to think that our government is God's government we better have the humility to say we're Sinners and we better give people the freedom to do as they choose as much as possible no so also

what about wars I mean is is it what what what's the I guess the biblical perspective on Wars because if let's say we're doing we're fighting a war let's say in the name of God isn't that a little pretentious cuz that like that implies paternalism you know that we're looking out for people because they don't know what's good for them great is there any justification for any possible type of War okay good question followers of Christ equally committed to Christ disagree some followers of Christ insist pacifism is the way to go they will take Jesus

teaching if someone strikes you on the right cheek turn it on the other also they will apply it to International Affairs and they're pacifists the Amish people are an excellent example of that other followers of Christ myself included are convinced that if a person walks up to this group takes out a machine gun and starts spraying bullets into our bodies if I hit him high you hit him low we break his neck in the process and kill him that is not murder that is killing motivated by a drive to preserve the innocent from being slaughtered

so I will support a war where my government calls us to fight that is trying to protect the innocent from being slaughtered but to fight a war in order to keep gas prices low at the pub baloney total baloney I will be a conscientious objector like that but if it's a war committed to preventing the slaughter of innocent people I would argue yes the same way I would argue if you and I go into McDonald's and a guy's murdering little kids if you hit them high and I hit them low that's not morally irresponsible that's

morally responsible our action is Justified because we're protecting the innocent from being slaughtered would it be morally irresponsible if we didn't hit him high and low according to the Amish no according to a Christian pacifist no you should stand there and pray and my point would be I'm sorry I feel that if I have it in my power to stop a human being from slaughtering innocent people and if I don't exercise that power I am being irresponsible what are you going to do if you if you see woman getting raped I would argue I will

try and attack the rapist if in the process of attacking him I break his neck and he dies that is not murder that is killing motivated by a drive to protect the innocent from being raped but some followers of Christ disagree some say no pacifism is the way to go therefore don't use Force ever I have a real hard time with that I think the police should be doing an a Jud just work apprehending criminals stopping people getting ripped off and I support the police when they're unjust and they whoop up on people they should

be tried and put in prison themselves according to the Christian religion it's a sin sort of things that I do but I don't think I should burn for all eternity or be impa for all attorney for these things that I wouldn't I wouldn't deserve that all right well I don't think you're going to burn for all eternity okay so then why would CU I don't think I don't think Jesus in the bible teach that hell is eternal fire if there is a heaven I don't go to heaven because I don't accept Jesus Christ well it's

real simple man if you want to live your life separate from God he's not going to force you to spend eternity together with him if you want to live your life separate from God he's going to Grant your decision and you can spend eternity separate from it man if you want to live your life separate from God you'd hate to go to heaven cuz in heaven you're going to be together with God for eternity I not that I want to live my life separate from God it's just that's how I've been raised and I've just

never learned those things and I find it hard for me to just follow religion in general but I believe like we all have energy and Energy's reproduced because I think that's being proven but I just don't understand why you ma'am do you really believe what you just said because that's the way I've been raised yeah well I've never I mean I've never it's not that I've been raised to think this way I've been raised not around religion right so religion's ever played a big part in my life but my parents have taught me well and

they've taught me kinds other people right and that energy is recycled that there is life after death but not necessarily like a heaven but maybe there is a heaven but that there's energy after you die all right but I don't see like yeah I respect your parents I'm glad you had such wonderful parents but man Jesus Christ says that he loves you you've gotten separated from him and he wants you to spend eternity with him in heaven but you got to put your faith in him you got to choose to live together with him now

you're going to have to respond on your own regardless of what mom and dad decide but how are you going to respond to Christ that's why I plead with you read the gospels why not because I just I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to believe in those things just because I don't know I know I know whatever it's ma'am you're living in an environment where if you answer in Inc correctly on your exams you will flunk out of this place man that is reality there are truth claims and Truth has a way of being exclusive

yeah yeah well just because Muhammad says this is the way to heaven doesn't mean he's wrong no and I'm not saying that he's wrong I'm not saying he's right or wrong I'm just saying I find it hard to put my faith something like that and I don't see why I should you know not have a happy Afterlife with yeah but man you're involved in a whole system that is committed to The Pursuit Of Truth in biology in architecture in mathematics in history and philosophy and you know that there is truth and there's error you don't

have to you don't have to base it on faith on history that is possibly being changed over time the gospels have not been changed over time we've got over 5,000 Greek manuscripts from the 1 through the 10th Century all agreeing to an infimal degree the go Els have not been changed it's reliable history just read it as history and ask yourself does the historical evidence point to Christ being reliable or does it not I mean I believe that there was a Jesus Christ I believe he was a good person I don't put my faith in

him and in that religion because there's I mean there's things that I disagree with and that I agree with but I mean there are other religions that I agree with way more because I think they're more positive religions they're not so it's this way or no way don't get like what it's what you're saying that's what Jesus Hinduism and Buddhism it's not this way or no way of course it is no it's not yes it is there's extremists but with Hinduism it's all paths lead to God fine that's a truth clay so it's not you

have to believe in Jesus Christ otherwise you're not going to go into heaven because it's it's you better believe this way no it's not it's that you should live this way you should live a good way I should be nice to other people and be a nice person ma'am if I am Muslim according to the Hindu religion I'm in for a very difficult next reincarnation cuz I believe a lie no but is to you live well you'll have good karma but you just you won't reach Enlightenment and you won't not reincarnate again right see but

if you live a good life but you don't believe in that certain thing you're going to keep on being re at but you'll be reincarnated into a good life okay now please tell me why you believe in reincarnation what's the evidence that reincarnation is true I believe in reincarnation I didn't say that I'm saying what Hindu re I believe energy fine but you see the reason that I believe in heaven is because the dead Christ rose from the dead and this resurrected Christ promised heaven to all who put their faith in him what is the

evidence that reincarnation is true there's no evidence it's a philosophy but Jesus Christ historically died rose from the dead that's why I believe there's life after death if you are a Muslim and limit God the way in Muslim theology limits God according to Hinduism you're going to have a very difficult Rocky next reincarnation cuz you're not trusting Brahman in Hinduism everything is part of God I I prefer to base my beliefs on former ground than the way than the literary style of a manuscript that was written well sir when you have to determine historicity you've

got to study literary style if you claim to be a thinking person you cannot go to a poem or apocalyptic highly symbolic literature and say oh this is historical claims it's not an historical claim Once Upon a Time wink and blinking and odd took a boat ride you can't detect that once upon a time as it if it's historical narrative it's not it's fairy tale come on guys you got to know that right all right how does that it has everything to do with are the gospels of Matthew Mark Luke and John giving us accurate

historical information about Jesus or not if the gospels are Once Upon a Time cute little Joseph and Mary had a little baby called Jesus that literary style tips you off to the fact this is not history this is fairy tale but if the gospels read well let me read here the following please it's real simple Luke chapter 3 Luke chapter 3 used to put me to sleep until I began to realize the importance of literary style Luke 3 you're basically saying it's true because it was what written well is what you're saying no it's not

poetry is written well sir but but it's a different literary style but how just because it's a different literary style doesn't make it true doesn't make it right no but that is one important test in determining whether a document is a historically reliable what is the test that proves that it is right there is no the test you got to take a lot of different tests when it comes to studying historicity just go to your history Department where's the empirical verifiable evidence there is no empirical evidence that Abraham Lincoln was the first president of United

States there is historical evence George Washington was the first president of the United States thank you that George Washington was the first president of the United States there's no empirical evidence Abraham Lincoln was president was imperical evidence absolutely was imperical evidence there's there's actual artifacts the time period there's there's um countless um manuscripts that he wrote and other government officials wrote that that uh that involve him but as far as as far as Jesus being resurrected that's all based on a book yeah they found his body like they found everyone else no all the other

Muhammad whoever ganzi everyone everyone is in a grave there's no there's no empirical verifiable proof that Jesus is resurrected sir there's no empirical verifiable evidence that your mother's not going to drop arsic in your tea when you go home on Christmas vacation and it hasn't happened and I'm not you don't base your life on empirical verifiable proof your life on evidence I'm not believing that it happened you're believing that Jesus rose from the dead based on a book that's a fact historical evidence where's the historical evidence that Jesus rose from the dead aside from a

book that was written in a literary style that so the only historical evidence is in a book right that's what history is no it's recorded eyewitness testimony history that is based off of years after he died 20 to 60 years right we got four different gospels written by eyewitnesses who saw him or people who knew the eyewitnesses like Luke you can't base like the evidence on on somebody who just says something you know what I'm saying like sir do you know do you know that you could go to the electric chair based on eyewitness testimony

do you know that you could spend life in prison based on a few people's eyewitness testimony come on guys let's stop acting like eyewitness testimony is not important eyewitness testimony is crucial it could end your life it could end you up in prison for life eyewitness testimony is crucial the question that you have to figure out is when someone claims to be giving eyewitness testimony are they blowing smoke or are they speaking the truth and that's why I came up with a four tests that I did to determine historicity but please don't tell me that

I witness testimony it's just AB not important it could end you up in prison for life it's very important it's very trustworthy um as you could tell like myself I'm a little confused in in what what the deal is with all these different types and stuff like that right but uh for example my girlfriend's parents I don't know what religion they are but when they talk about uh one of her sisters who's converted into like Buddhist like they shun her because of it and I know a lot of other religions like like they argue about

different things like heated arguments about different things like why people get so upset over something that can be taken like you said in so many different angles and so many different views and that's why it's so many different religions why do people get mad because someone looks at it like that someone looks at it like that does God sh upon that too or whatever all right it's a very good question you're asking if it's true what Jesus said that if you put your faith in him you're going to heaven and if you reject his forgiveness

and you sin you're going to hell if that's true obviously I'm very upset with anybody who would try and persuade you not to put your faith in Christ because I'm convinced Jesus spoke the truth but if I've put my faith in Christ I have no option but to love and respect all people that is why I as a follower of Christ can never use deception Force manipulation to try and persuade you to put your faith in Christ instead I have to speak the truth to you motivated by my love for you saying sir I'm concerned

about you if you're like me you've rebelled against God the same way I have you're headed towards death the same way I am but Christ claimed he bled and died on a cross to forgive us and to give us eternal life and he rose from the dead and that convinces me he's The Real McCoy put your faith in him you can trust him I don't want your money don't join my church put your faith in Christ though cuz he's reliable so obviously if some Professor here on this campus or some fellow student says oh no

no no no no you shouldn't believe in Jesus obviously I'm going to try and take that person on intellectually and say wait a second why why are you convinced Jesus is not the truth cuz I'm convinced he is the truth I'm convinced he's the way to life eternal to heaven and because I love you because I love all people and respect all people I want them to go to heaven so that's why it gets a little intense it got a little intense out here yesterday in my debating one of your professors oh and I I

do not respect the teaching of professors that discourages students from putting their faith in Christ and I will seek to shred it to the best of my ability to be honest with you cuz I want to expose lies to your to your knowledge obviously if it's from my perspective a lot of my friends think that the purpose of life is to make money and a lot of my friends are very very good at it very good I live on the Gold Coast of Connecticut right outside manhatt Wall Street a lot of my buddies are very

very good at making money that's what their God is that's what they're living for and I'm trying to Rattle their cage as best I know how to say hey guys you live for money you got a horrible future ultimately yeah you're going to have some perks you're going to have some gorgeous vacations some great cars some Financial Security and there's a place for that but if you live for that stuff you are going to be a very Hollow empty person and you're going to go into a Godless eternity I'm concerned for you so I seek

to challenge them by asking him questions what's the evidence that the purpose of human life is to climb the corporate ladder to have your spread in the suburbs to drive your BMW Mercedes to have great vacations in Colorado in the winter to ski and wherever in the summer in Italy or wherever what's the evidence that that's the real bottom line there's more to you if you think about it your relationships with a spouse a child a parent a friend is far more valuable than expensive toys there's got to be more to life than just piling

up money Christ says yeah real life comes from loving God and loving people now you can make a pile of money and do that but you don't worship the money you don't live for the money you live for Christ and you live for others and you put your faith faith in him hard how much did he leave behind when that billionaire died simple he left it all behind you're not going to take any of it with you if you live for money your life is ended when you died you live for Christ your life is

just beginning when you die for you will have eternal life in heaven that's exciting does that make sense yeah no i s and then a lot of people your age obviously we know what we're living for sex the party a physical thrill well there's nothing wrong with sex it's a gift from God but God says enjoy that gift within marriage a lifelong commitment between you and one woman don't live for that pleasure it's a great gift enjoy it within the context according to the purpose for which God gave it to us within the context of

a lifelong commitment how can you believe in something that for more than 500 years has been spread through Bloodshed torture and execution and then now that 100 years have passed since since you know that actually happened we talking about the Inquisition the you know invading you know this continent and killing off a lot of Indians how can you make that how can you say that to the truth if the only way it was spread throughout the world was through fear basically same question last time too the issue is not the Inquisition the issue is not

white Christian racist the issue is was Jesus a racist did Jesus go around murdering people if he did you'd be an idiot to trust him why do I trust Christ cuz he didn't murder people he loved people because he wasn't racist he tore down the barriers of racism I Believe In Christ cuz he lived a sinless life I Believe In Christ cuz he died on a cross and three days later rose from the dead picture this picture this where where would Christianity be today if it wasn't that massive militant expansion that it had I don't

have the faintest idea neither do you mhm very interesting question but it's totally theoretical I mean where would where would you be if you'd been born in uh Iran no but we're not talking about it's totally theoretical I don't know not talking about that honestly what would I believe if I'd been born in Alexandria Egypt I don't know ancestor were Germanic it were the Romans through Bloodshed that inculcated Christianity into you if you were Germanic who were Frankish and then and then again you know it's a big cycle then if you're indigenous background indigenous background

and you prank the original W in Mexico your ancestors were forced to bow down to this virgin were forced to bow down to this Christ true and what happened after a couple Generations actually two generations we started believing because the other religion wasn't exist was completely out of existence wiped out of existence uhhuh like the first generation of people that were that came in contact with all these uh Christian Mission Aries what happened they still believed in their gods they just hid them and then like after that they started getting caught and executed and tortured

and whatnot and after that their children stopped doing it and then their children's children once were were the ones that became bonified Christians all right it's real simple my faith in Christ has nothing to do with the Inquisition if I took the Inquisition too seriously I would not believe in Christ I would not I'd be an idiot to Believe In Christ I Believe In Christ because he contradicted the Inquisition God wants us to be Christian then God justifies the Inquisition as being right absolutely no way does Christ ever justify the Inquisition and you're smart enough

to know that now you're being intellectually dishonest you don't have to have a PhD in the New Testament to read the New Testament to know the Inquisition was a total violation of what Christ taught and lived you're telling me that Jesus says about freedom but yet the Apostle Paul tells slaves to obey their masters and slavery is a form of Oppression so is is the is the New Testament agreeing with the oppress saying is so right because if you do read the New Testament and some of I think it was the chian church it does

tell them to to obey their masters that's a form of Oppression slavery is oppressed so you're telling me on one instance that Jesus is talking about freedom but on the other instance in the New Testament is telling slaves to obey their masters so is are you for Freedom or are you for slavery because that seemed contradictory to me slavery is slavery oppression is oppression you can't you know s side step and say something else it is what it is so which one is it Freedom or slavery cuz the Bible talks about slavery and it makes

a clear distinction it says personally it says specifically to obey your master uhhuh so I mean what are you saying is Jesus for Freedom or was Jesus Just For Freedom or was just the apostles which written by men decided to interpret it like every other thousand of different Bibles that's been written since the beinging of time so which one is it Freedom or is a slavery and if so what Bible is truth cuz there is no absolute truth well but the god that's inside of your mind that's why we interpreted God so much everybody has

their own interpretation of God thus leading to a different type of God because in absolute truth every man has his own truth of who God is and what God is that's true you can see what the Catholic Church they interpreted God to do what they wanted and they slaughter millions of pagans like Esau about the Puritans did it with the Salem Witch Trials every single Christian denomination has killed off men why because every man believes as God as being his own so there is no absolute truth you're might not be right Islam might not be

right Buddhism Hinduism tosm none of them are absolutely right it's what the god that you choose to believe in which is yourself well but that is the god the majority of people it sounds to me and if I you believe it the god of myself I'm standing here saying that's a very unwise decision because the evidence is I sin the evidence is I'm finite the evidence is my intellect is very limited but the evidence is that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life taught amazing teachings something died and rose from the dead so the evidence is

Jesus Christ is far more reliable than this guy is well let me ask you this because everybody says that Jesus rose he was sinless in this but were you actually there to even see him not commit a sin for 33 years of his life because in honestly if you believe that I can sell you the MacArthur bridge on South Beach and tell you that it's mine's in 10 or 20 years from now oh yeah he sold it to me but you never had ownership can you really sit there to say that you were there to

watch him not commit a sin and then you have to come to this question what is sin because every man has his own standards of living what you say is wrong I may say is right so necessity what is Sin is Sin what the Christian Church says cuz if that's the truth then that justifies for all the Catholics killing off millions of people and every other denomination of Christianity killing off millions of people because life is more important than your religious belief life is the greatest thing that's ever been done so if there is a

God all he cares about life he doesn't care about your beliefs and your misinterpretations I believe what he really wants to know is to make sure everybody gets along and you all live your own life and quit trying to oppress people with your religious belief by telling them go to hell what's the evidence of what you just said is true you weren't there to see J you called God a he how do you know God's a he you called God a he how do you know God listen to what I just said every man interprets

his God his who he want chooses to be I interpret my God to be a man she interprets his her God to be a girl it doesn't matter if a lion if a lion if a lion had the ability if a lion had the ability to write down and ask him what what do you see your God to be I can guarantee you that lion that animal form would write his God down as being a lion because every man interprets God as who he wants to be only thing is it's the ignorance that say well

if you don't come to my God you're going to burn in hell or if you don't make me powerful isn't a coincidence well do you like the god of the KKK meish do you like no you haven't let me finish at all sir you've interrupted me repeatedly do you like the god of the KKK that's their own God that's their choosing is that true wrong is the god of the KKK the true God like I said listen you're not you're misinterpreting you're not even listening to me I'm listening very closely you're a relativist that's you're

a relativist so is that true they interpret their God have you ever talked to a k m in their subconscious mind they what they're saying is to be does that make it true huh it doesn't you're not listening there is no absolute truth every man interprets truth as being itself I can't then why are you so upset about certain people saying Jesus is the only way if you really believe that Everything's Relative condemning man chill going to and say it's all relative it really doesn't matter upset with the oppression that Christianity has caused and even

Islam has calls upon mankind if Everything's Relative why you upset Christianity why are you upset with Muslims and Christians Chan Islam has broken down the ultimate law above God free will oh really according to who ACC according to Christian when the Catholic Church try to according to you sir cath see you're not a relativist man he's not the Catholic Church what you what are you har at him if you're going to be a relativist be intellectually consistent if you're a relativist it means that everything is relative there is no such thing is true so don't

get all hot about Islam and don't get all hot about Christianity if you believe Everything's Relative it's just a matter of different opinions nobody's right nobody's wrong just chill out it's all relative you can't do that can you because you've got a conscience and your conscience convicts you the slaughter of innocent people is always wrong you have a conscience that informs you the Inquisition was really wrong it's not relatively wrong it's really wrong well the only way there can be a moral absolute is if there is some type of God to create and to find

hey guys thanks so much for watching this episode hit that subscribe button we love for you to join the family also want to invite you to our church in new Canan Connecticut it's new Canan high school and meet Sundays at 9:30 a.m. [Applause] I