to me the real winners are the ones who step out of the game entirely who don't even play the game Who rise above it and those are the people who have such internal mental and self-control and self-awareness that they need nothing from anybody else so there are a couple of these characters that I know in my life some older gentlemen that I like to kind of learn from and we mentioned our polish friend earlier I would consider him successful because he doesn't need anything from anybody he is at peace he is at health and whether
he makes more money or less money or with the next person over from him does better or worse than him has no effect on his mental state and bearing and historically I would say that the legendary Buddha or krishnamurti who stuff that I like reading they are successful quote unquote in the sense they step out of the game entirely winning or losing does not matter to them there's some line that I read somewhere that all of man's troubles arise because he cannot sit in a room quietly by himself for half an hour right