Joni Lamb Addresses Allegations: Navigating the Daystar Family Crisis

um Joanie we wanted to kind of just gather around with you today um you're a TV personality all over the world you know you're known for bringing news to the world making people aware of issues that they need to know that can make their life a better life you've been amazing at that through the years and um we know there's stuff out there circulating and accusations that are that are coming from people that don't even know who you are don't know you and we as your friends sitting here today we have worked with you every

day for years we know you better than anybody out there that feels like they have the right to do what they're doing so the girls and I we just wanted to sit with you today and we wanted to ask you some of those questions that people are wanting answers and so um we just want to have our coffee and just ask you those questions okay okay all right okay and you know like Cindy said there are those allegations out there from people who really don't know much about what's going on one of the questions is

when did you hear about the alleged abuse my first knowledge of any abuse was in November of 2020 and Susie called me and said there had been an incident at my granddaughter's preschool and she told me that something had happened where a little boy touched her and her friend and so she called me and asked me would I go to the school with her and I said absolutely so I went with her to the school we reported it to the school and of course you know I was there to encourage and as I would for

any child but especially my granddaughter course yes and so um that was the incident that happened and yet you know U what's being written is just taken out of context that that was the incident that happened in 2020 and I was there and Susie actually called me to go there okay so this the word about you covering up there's no truth to that you know when I started hearing that I thought to myself what what am I covering up I've covered up nothing and so I never covered up anything now there was another incident written

about that was um an incident that happened at our family Retreat this was in uh 2021 okay um we were all staying in this in this house together and again we do that once a year and uh my two older grandchildren were staying in an upstairs bedroom and it was a long room and there was a bunk bed on one side and there was another bunk bed on the other side and so my grandson was talking about that he had the City View and he was saying his sister had the beach view okay and so

uh one afternoon uh he was talking about that and who they call Pete was in the room um holding a one-year-old baby boy okay mhm and so Pete says oh so you've got the City View and everybody was talking about well I'd rather have the beach view and and and my grandson saying no I like the City View and Pete said well I like the City View too and so um he said I want to see your City View so they went up the stairs the grandson and Pete and Pete had the baby the grandson

Pete and the baby now all those details have been left out yeah exactly and so went up the steps and again I was there I heard this whole conversation and uh around the same time or maybe just a few minutes after I don't know exactly when but my granddaughter went up to the room and went over to her side while Pete and the baby and my grandson were looking out the window at the City View okay and she proceeded to put her bathing suit on well about the time she started to put it on Jonathan

comes running up the stairs her dad and says what are you doing in here while she's changing you know what are you doing you know and Pete was like well I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't I don't even know if he actually saw anything cuz he had his back to her because he was holding the baby and the 8-year-old was there so he said you know I'm so sorry I'm so sorry and and left but there had been some very peculiar things that have happened at this particular trip I remember when we were at the

a grocery store all the family was there cuz when we go we always go to the grocery store and get food for breakfast and that kind of thing and um I remember Susie was standing in line and she began to murmur under her breath and start talking about a man that was behind her and she was getting angrier and angrier and we were like what you know what's going on and and you know she said you know he was looking at me you know in the store and and the man is like on his phone

not knowing what in the world she's saying or doing we were were just trying to calm her down so there was just it was just a weird dynamic that was going on with her from the beginning right I know that you got you called me from Florida and told me that it was a tough time um as a family and I know that in on any when families get together like that a lot of times there are times that you disagree about things or things happen well I mean what happened was Marcus was alive and

so we just met together as a family he talked to everyone and clearly nothing happened yeah speaking of Pastor Marcus first I want to say thanks for the opportunity you've always been easy to talk to just very transparent you very transparent and so I want to ask you because um Susie said that you and Pastor Marcus covered it up did you cover it up you know Marcus isn't here but I will just say absolutely a lie I never covered up anything I wouldn't cover up anything Marcus didn't cover up anything and so again this is

a narrative that was written by some low-level blogger who knows nothing never heard the other side of the story yeah and is doing nothing but trying to destroy my family sensationalize yeah that's what she does and and I'm glad you shared this because I don't know why somebody would not have asked that question was there anybody else in the bedroom right besides all of that was left out all of it holding a baby that was and that would have been to me if you're investigating something or you're going to try to find something right well

it's a family Retreat so well the crazy part is that eventually uh we worked through that misunderstanding and they Jon and Susie ended up apologizing and we prayed together I mean and and it was it was a done deal right and so the timing of of later this coming out or being pulled up again out of the ashes when there's no validity to it just blew my mind I'm like what in the world AB but did you continue to do things as a family with johathan and Susie and their family absolutely now this is the

thing so this was 2021 and Marcus passed away and was gradu graduated to heaven in November of 20121 so when 2022 rolled around the question was are we going to do our family Retreat when they when the kids asked me about I said I I just don't know if I'm up for it guys and so um but we all got together and they they just said no Mom we we really want to do this so um I I said yes we went Jonathan Susie their kids and the other couple their kid and um when we

got to the house um you know everybody will pick their room and there were there were bunk beds that were outside Pete's room and Jonathan and Susie say oh well the kids can sleep here so there was no thought of of anything yes that there you know that there would be any issue and um Pete actually came to me and said you know this is uncomfortable for me CU because of what happened he didn't want that to be repeated exactly and so um I said I said well no we don't need to put the kids

here so I put them on the same floor with their parents everything was great nothing happened you know and again you think this this issue is settled and that's what happened yeah wow and this is all after the fact after the incident so um yeah the one incident that happened was 2020 with her preschool yeah and somehow it is evolved into blaming a family member because you know people say well how can you protect a family member over I would never protect anyone over my granddaughter you would not I mean that is that is insane

you know for people to say you know oh she's so terrible I would never put the ministry before family I never have done that you and Marcus never did so um those were just misconceptions Again by the low-level blogger who does nothing but be used in a way that is trying to hurt the kingdom of God I mean if you want to know the truth absolutely we know who the enemy is yeah and you know one of the other issues that's out there among debate um is the marriage between you and Doug after Marcus passed

away right um as I understand Jonathan SU or said they struggled with that but I I remember when initially the dating and the engagement they were very especially Susie was very excited oh very excited from the very and wanted pictures what was it so excited I mean I have so many texts of her being excited and and uh early on um uh when when I found out Doug had gone through a divorce MH um after that I was make that clear yeah after right I did not start talking to Doug Weiss until he was divorced

um we started talking and more like friends and then later it began to develop into something yeah and um we talked for hours and you you know I asked a million questions so did we you did yes you did and you know what people don't know is that I actually brought um people that I trust that that I said hey I want you to walk with me through this and if you see anything I told you Cindy you and Darius I said if you see anything it's a red flag I want you to tell me

same thing with you and um several other ministers and of course my Minister friend there in Tennessee um also U my dear friend just not going to say everybody's name but um who again has been in Ministry for for 40 years and um and we just begin to walk through that process what one of the things that that all of y'all said to me and you said to me is just slow down yes and because um you need to take time and and and that's what I did and we we both we slow down you

we would talk and I know you would talk with probably several but if there was ever a question about something I was like well you know you might consider this or you might consider that it wasn't like we were yes people like whatever for all all well I mean and that's what a lot of people say that oh my friends are yes people my friends are not yes people count me out with that well and your friends wanted to see you happy they did not want to help you getting back to I mean I remember

distinctively at this table Susie was so excited about you and Doug I mean well she was excited and again she was wonderful through that process early on she thought it was great she happy for me she knew I was happy she told me I think he's the perfect person for you to you know to be with and then um in De Doug ask Jonathan's permission yeah in December um Doug asked Jonathan out to breakfast because he wanted to get his Blessing before he proposed and Jonathan asked him a million questions and then gave his Blessing

so I mean everything's going along you now I have to say you know my girls they were still I mean cuz their their father had been gone a year and so or by that time over a year and and they were they were still missing him they were still grieving you know to some degree and but I knew in time they they would come around because they they wanted me to be happy as well of course so and you bought I believe I remember correctly you bought a very nice custom suit for Jonathan because he

was going to walk you down the aisle these are all the stories I tell you guys excited I took him to BU to get a really nice suit he was excited about walking me down and my granddaughter was going to be a flower girl bought her a beautiful dress she was excited she's very excited and then what happened well I would say probably around March or April of 2023 we were going to be married in June of 2023 right is when everything started to shift but what happened that people don't know is that I told

told Susie and the kids that when I got married that I would use Doug to co-host with me now Doug has a seminary degree he's a licensed psychologist he's been in Ministry for years and he's a season television presenter and and we just had you know a little season of the kids hosting with me but it wasn't Joanie and one of the kids it was it was always Marcus and Joanie so it was a husband and wife and of course they would have continued to be a part and host when when I wasn't there and

they do now yeah so but when when Susie found out that that's when the turn started and um and then she she pulled Jonathan into it and then um kind of there were rip uh Rumblings with all the kids you know like well maybe Mom should slow down or maybe you know and it was just like a 180 from what it had been and so I just just I just thought well Lord you know I stayed with the counsel of of of you guys and of other ministers seasoned ministers and uh I knew that the

Lord had brought this man into my life I knew that I was going to get married in June and so I just continued on and of course the kids did come to the wedding U my brother walked me down the aisle and um that ended up being a blessing uh because he um my dad would have done it had he been alive why are Jonathan and Susie doing this what's the reason for all this well you know um the reason is clear they did not want someone else coming in and taking their place but the

truth is you know Doug didn't take anybody's place right you know Marcus had left strict instructions that if anything ever happened to him that that I would be president of day star and a lot of people are saying well you know um Marcus intended for Jonathan to be the president Marcus never intended for Jonathan to be the president while I was alive or while he was alive he had hoped and he used this analogy all the time he said I um when when your mom and I are gone it would be my hope that Jonathan

could lead with the girls beside him and he would use the analogy of Moses up and her holding up the arms and he he wanted the three of them to work together he said it over and over hear that yeah but what happened was um when Doug came into the picture there was there was something underneath there that I had never seen before they came to the surface and I was shocked because I had always had a great relationship with everybody and um and so what happened was uh we got back from our honeymoon uh

it was in July and um by the way there there are questions about uh it's all over the Internet that dayar paid $100,000 for yes I was getting ready to ask you about that so absolutely not not one penny of day star's money was used for our honeymoon we paid for our honeymoon okay so again that's another lie that's out there right and so but when we got back and we're doing the program you know everything seemed okay uh but there was a viewer comment that came in and said hey um enjoying Dr Doug hosting

with with Joanie um love the song She Wrote no fear congratulations something like that and then there was another viewer feedback comment you remember that day I do as you were there and so the producer comes running in in the middle of a live show which again you want continuity and you I mean the presence of God is so important when you're doing these programs live and you and you You' got to be in unity and uh she came running back in and she said they're um they refused to to read the card and I

was like what Jonathan and sus Jonathan and Susie refused to read the card and Susie I think threw the card and stomped off the set they told me and I was just like what in the world they did not want to say something good about Doug is that what it was they did not want to read the viewer comment because they had done a 180 and all of a sudden decided that I was out of the will of God and that I shouldn't have married Doug andc Etc but um that was what was so bizarre

because they they knew the process that I went through they knew the people that I surrounded myself with right and they were all for it and and Jonathan gave his Blessing so I just said we'll cut him from the show because at that point you could feel in the atmosphere and um that's when it all began and if you had told me back then that they were capable of doing what they're doing right now I would have never believed it because would that's true um I love my son and I love Susie I love my

grandchildren and I know more than anything it would break the heart of Marcus lamb and and the fact that they would even tarnish yes their dad's name or that Jonathan would tarnish his dad's name is just shocking to me shocking and um I think that's something that's broke my heart is to see um the family situation yes it's heartbreaking as a mom as a grandmother um and that it breaks my heart that it's been put out there for all the world to see the the pain or the things that you go through as a family

we tried to to handle it privately yeah and we tried for restoration we tried for resolution we tried for mediation and and um to no Avil we would we would get something worked out with Jonathan and then he would go home to Susie and then come back different and you know our board saw that and uh people in positions of authority would see that and it would and again we were just scratching our head like you know how do we fix this because uh it was such a mess and so um we met with um

Jimmy Evans myself and and the two of them and we had exhausted so many Avenues of trying to work it out and so we had a meeting it's a private meeting and however it was taped which to me felt when I heard it it the meeting was fine but to do that secretly yes make that I guess recorded Jonathan secretly recorded to me is deceptive he knew it was a private meeting and you if I were recording I would go into the meeting knowing what I'm saying is going to be said so I think I

would probably in my own flesh edit my words maybe not say exactly what I'm thinking or respond the way that I would had I not been recording well he was secretly recording course we didn't know it but I will just say on the record I don't regret anything that I said because again we were talking about uh Jimmy was trying to explain about um you know God's order you know of submission and when someone is called into an office as the president of a network that if you can't submit to that Authority you remove yourself

from it you know and Joanie that would be true if this was CBS FOX News IBM any other Corporation you would not go in and attack the president and expect to remain in that company well then a lot of people talk about with the voice of God analogy that was used because yes that's what I wanted to know yeah the voice of I am not since when you became the voice of God I am not the voice of God please but what of course what what Jimmy was saying is that I am the voice of

authority at dayar he wasn't saying I was the voice of God okay and anybody in Ministry would understand would understand that and I've had hundreds of people tell me you know I I was thinking this but I listen to the tape and I'm like wow I see exactly what went on there but of course what he meant was I The Voice voice of authority here you've always been um operated with such humility so when I heard you know the voice of God I'm like I've never seen that about you no I mean honestly you've you've

operated with such humility and so it was it was shocking so I'm glad you clarified that well and I you know I never thought I would be here I really thought Marcus would live another 20 25 years of course and so um that was the most diff ult storm ever went through was losing him and I would say that what I'm going through right now is the second most difficult storm because there's nothing that pulls at your heartstrings more as a mother than your own child you know and you know I believe I believe God

will turn that around I don't know how when where there's so much damage that's been done but um you know the fact that I'm even having to talk about this publicly exactly exactly you know I know doesn't have God L he is still in control here you know I think Cindy mentioned at one point that no family is perfect and no family is perfect but what I know for sure is that you've always loved your family I mean you've always considered your daughter-in-laws as daughters I mean I mean I was shocked to hear that all

this had been happening because you never ever talked bad about anything about your family I mean we've been on walks we've been out we've done you I was just so shocked and I I understand why the world is so shocked by all this because here I come you know every week and I didn't know anything that was going on as far as all the details and everything that's out there and you know what I don't want to know all those details because I have lived a life I've lived a very public life ex-husband three Super

Bowl WI you know I've been in media I've been in all that there's nothing good that comes from it you know and so I just you know continue to pray that you know this could have been worked out privately instead of publicly absolutely exactly and what we have all said to people is we know the character of Joanie lamb we know her character we know her ability to love and but while we're talking lamb is not perfect let's make sure we make not certainly not perfect not perfect but wonderful but parts of her own and

I you would not I know you in your heart would not want to have to address this in this manner that you you're having to respond yeah because one Proverbs 18 talks about that one side seems right until you hear the other side and I just keep you know when I hear things like you know she covered things up or she hurt her granddaughter or she didn't stand like that is the part that just tears in my heart because it's not true or when things are being said about Marcus that he covered things up and

he's not here to defend himself and I can tell you he Marcus Lam would never cover up anything and he adored his granddaughter absolutely he would have done anything to protect her he knew about the 2020 incident he knew I went to the school and this other uh incident is a totally separate incident that has been given a narrative that is completely false so Joanie what's up with this whole thing what is that all about well an NDA is something that Marcus started that process he actually talked to an attorney friend about writing something up

because dayar had gotten so big and there was uh you know business and proprietary information that you want to keep private and NDA stands for non-disclosure agreement right so for those but you have to understand that they're saying that we were trying to get him to sign an N NDA so that they they wouldn't share this um information that we didn't want to Shar that's a complete lie there was no information to share and and you can share any kind of information that is wrong I mean you work in HR if there's some kind of

sexual abuse or something absolutely and so um the NDA was for business reasons and Marcus had started that process and I I just carried it on through because there were that's not uncommon is it to sign HR no I I mean it just it just depend depends on the organization but um one thing that I truly was was um that got my attention it was about a pip so did you fire Jonathan without um putting him on a performance plan no because that sounded when I heard about that and I think a friend of mine

just text it just sounded really really cold and harsh like did you farm without saying okay a performance Improvement plan will lay everything out we want you here this is what we expect of you Etc well what happened is I came back and um with the team of people and we met with every employee and um I had dug in the meeting with with me because we wanted to solidify the fact that I'm president of dayar that he he's not in any capacity of leading dayar or on the board or anything else he's he's trying

to to he co-hosts with me on TV he's an incredible blessing to me he has his own uh business that still operates a amazing Counseling Center in Colorado Springs and so um Arnold who used to be over the prayer Department I told him you need to go find out what's going on and so we and Arnold is what is his tle he's a he's the COO okay and so he he went into the prayer department and found out a lot of stuff that was going on and we actually removed those departments from Jonathan's leadership because

he was not managing them properly we found out that um there were a department heads that came to him and said this is going on please deal with this and Jonathan didn't believe it and didn't deal with it we I lost some really good prayer partners and leaders in the prayer department so uh we knew and Arnold just told me we've got to move him from Over the prayer department and these other and so uh we we we put all of that back in order and so once I found out that this was going on

I called these prayer partners that I lost and they said um we'll come back they all came back and they're still there and so it was tough you know to make those decisions but it was for the betterman of dayar and the those were the Departments that Jonathan was over right he was over several departments those were three that he was over that we removed to get him back in order and so um we met and decided we would put Jonathan on a a p agreement which you know that's a a performance Improvement plan you

work in HR so you know about that and so we laid out specific you know this is what you need to do to improve you know and we and just a managerial style and um making the right decision you got 300 employees you know obviously I can't micromanage every but employee but everyone knows here that I care about our employees and true they need to be treated you know with dignity and and so you know because you be working here yeah that's true so we put him on that um the PIP and um and we

had someone that was over him that kept up with his hours he would come in and they'd be gone for three hour lunches wouldn't tell anybody where he was didn't really meet with the Department said he was over and it just completely um did not perform at all and um a little did I know that um there was something else up where they were plotting and planning something to try to hurt me to try to hurt Day star which again is shocking I would have never thought that would have happened right yeah can I ask

though about back to the NDA um were there other employees that did the NDA as well here oh yeah all all the department heads the family okay that would have knowledge of business it wasn't just him it was other people including yeah including me yeah right yes we did that with our business so it it's very common practice Yeah so how long was it before like apparently now that I'm aware and and have gained so much knowledge there's a timeline involved I mean was he fired a year ago I mean how long was he employed

before he was fir or how what's the date that he was actually fired or receed the PIP well he was on a I don't remember if it was a six-month or a 9mon pip agreement and that was up on November the 15th okay and um I had been advised before then that we needed to go ahead and let him go but I said no let's just wait let's see and I kept hoping things could change right and so when it was up that's when this blogger came forth with questions you know questioning our integrity talking

about a cover up and sexual abuse and all this crazy stuff and um and that's when we let him go okay um but it was because the PIP agreement was up and he had failed miserably so he'll try to say well you know because uh this blogger you know had questions then y'all let me go no we they admitted they had been working with her for months well and Joanie how about the fact that he's now said that he was supposed to be president and has made an issue of that on some of these just

like I said earlier Marcus never intended for him to be president while I was alive and we had conver ation Marcus and I did and he told me you know our kids are not ready and if anything were to happen to me and I said nothing is going to happen to you and uh and he said but if if it did if I if I passed before you you would have to run Day star and um and he actually followed up with with an email and sent to the board and all the family exactly you

know what would happen if he ever um you know if he went to be with the Lord before me but I never dreamed in a million years that he would we did yes you did when I look around the table I see we're all mothers we're all grandmothers yes your daughter your wife your mother-in-law I mean you're so many things to so many people but you're human and I understand that I understand and I know what pain we're all we all know what pain feels like but how are you handling all this I mean it's

been difficult I I put my happy face on and come to work um but yeah I go home and and there are tears there are moments I'm really sad because I love my son yeah I love my daughter-in-law I love my grandkids um they put me in an impossible situation and um I'm just sorry that we even have to sit here and talk about this to but I do want to say thank you thank you for letting us have this time with you it's not easy but thank you as yes friends and besties that love

you and appreciate you well thank you and and you knew a lot of the story because we had many early morning coffee talk and Sindy you as well well we are praying for your entire family for Day star yes the truth will prevail I know that God is fighting this battle for you our our battle is not against flesh and blood and we're praying for Jonathan and sus and their family because I know how much you love them and our heart would be restoration well you know and too you've got you've got so you've got

family members involved here and and when you when I know that someone is innocent and is being accused it's a horrible thing and at the same time I've got a grand daughter that I adore but again if you don't know the whole story exactly you can't understand the Dynamics here so hopefully at least I I appreciate youall asking me these hard questions and hopefully this can help