“Iran WILL Punish Israel!” Israel Invades Lebanon After Nasrallah Killed

the fact that he calls every Muslim in the world untrustworthy says everybody who identifies as Muslim is a predator Compares Muslims to animals he is not a serious human being and you can see the utter bigotry in every word I speak on the authority of the universe that Iran and all its proxies and the Muslim World behind it there is going to be only the language of fire Iran will respond have no doubt about that and the Israeli regime will be punished for decades Iran is has used his militias to antagonize Israel by proxy and

to protect itself from its sworn enemy the United States that strategy has now been obliterated along with hezbollah's entire chain of command his leader Hassan nzala was killed in an enormous strike on his headquarters in Beirut on Friday an assassination that's been 18 years in the making you would know though from some of the commentary this weekend but nzala was a terrorist he propped up Assad's murderous regime in Syria he trained fighters in Hamas as well as violent militias in Iraq and Yemen he ordered strikes on Israel in the immediate aftermath of October the 7th

the world is a better place without him but is it safer could a humiliated Iran decide that a nuclear bomb is now the only recourse for defense Israel's just announced that it intends to launch a ground incursion into Lebanon and it could start as early as today meanwhile 1 million Lebanese have already been displaced by the escalating conflict which is one of the entire population the civilian death toll is rising the war in Gaza rages on nazala has met a deservingly grim end but the crisis in the Middle East may have only just begun in

a moment I'll be speaking to the Iranian American academic Professor Muhammad Mandi who's in Beirut but first returning to uncensored to discuss the Fallout the son of a Mass's founder and former Palestinian militant masab pasam yusf and the Palestinian American commentator Omar bad well welcome to both of you um M let me start with you uh your response to the killing of of Hassan nzala well you know Hassan nzala his hands uh are stained with uh blood not only Jewish blood but also Arab blood he participated in the killing of hundreds of thousands of syrians

along the Russian forces and along Bashar Al Assad forces this man has been uh or had been St destabilizing the security of the Middle East and this was the time to put an end for this bullying and this blackmailing and this act of Terror I mean Omar um are you sorry that he's dead Pierce before I answer your question I think there's something that your audience has to know about musab who's on this program if we can see if he's going to be able to control his temper and keep me from telling the audience with

this about him is the fact that he calls every Muslim in the world untrustworthy says you can't trust any Muslim says everybody who identifies as Muslim is a predator Compares Muslims to animals and the list goes on and on and on and peers I think both of us know that if anybody engaged in that kind of bigotry towards say Jews you would not give them air time to appear on a program as if they're a real analyst who's here with with something to say and on top of these deeply bigoted views that he holds there's

also the fact that he is simply just not a serious person you know puts on this really dumb put on angry face and Barks incredibly uh shallow slogans about Israel being wonderful and its opponents being terrible and terrorist and so on it's not really a real point of analysis with that being at the Forefront I'll say that I think what Israel did in Lebanon and is doing is don't take my word for it listen to what Israeli leaders and tells have have said about the assassination of nasah they said they could have and wanted to

reach a diplomatic agreement with Hassan nasah but his insistence on ending the genocide in Gaza is a precondition to them reaching a diplomatic solution LED them to choose to assassinate him and killing hundreds of libanese civilians in the process incinerating entire apartment buildings so in essence Israel is choosing to inserate leban civilians to assassinate Nala because they don't want peace in Gaza that is the dynamic that we have and the fact that you can look at this and still not figure out what moral policy should be and and who to blame for this kind of

path of escalation that we're on to me is is is completely minding it is obvious that Israel is out of control it's on a war path all right look you've launched a substantive uh ad homonym attack on your other panelist which is entirely your perogative and he can respond U you also failed to answer my simple question are you sorry he's dead I look at it in terms of the impact on civilians which in this case I think his assassination has made things infinitely more dangerous we're seeing this onslaught so yes this development that's not

actually an answer to my question do you personally feel sorry that he is dead the head of Hezbollah no no look but that's the thing I don't have individual personal feelings about players here for me what I'm concerned about is ultimately the impact on innocent people absolutely look n if you want me to talk about his legacy that's a really easy thing to do he was a hero throughout the entire Arab world for having driven Israel out of South Lebanon in 2000 for delivering Israel its first defeat in 2006 and then his record you know

had a major blemish on it when he intervened in the Syrian Civil War for geopolitical reasons on the side of the government and that upset a lot of syrians who are essentially repressed and brutalized by the Syrian government to see that he has intervened in order to help them maintain power but that was more a geopolitical decision more than it is a moral decision and so he has a mixed record and a lot of people like him and a lot of people don't but ultimately there's no question about the fact that he is a major

figure in the region that has a sign significant fan base not just within Lebanon but throughout the entire region and that taking this major escalatory step when we've had the alternative we've had the option of a ceasefire and Israel chose not to take that and and chose the path of escalation and taking out a major figure is obviously pushing us towards further catastrophe and it's materializing right now in Lebanon as we're watching Israeli terrorism decimate the civilian population in all parts of Lebanon and that's a really really dangerous escalation okay um mosab your first of

all your response to the personal attack that was launched on it was start of of that uh I'm not going to comment on that I know who I am I know what I am uh I'm not a commentator on the Middle Eastern by your own admission I I lived the conflict I witnessed am an I witness I lived half of my life in what so-called Palestinian society and I spent the other half of my life with the Jewish Community when I speak I speak on the authority of experience that is representing both cultures one culture

is a culture of death that has been sacrificing children for political and financial gain and Omar is coming here to the West carrying the false Palestinian identity hiding behind couple of Western values trying to manipulate and deceive American and Western Audience by showing somebody like Hassan nasah and Ayah and sinir and the rest of the proxy leaders this people are Reckless they started the war in October 7 and Israel had the right to defend itself and hisbah has been launching missiles on civilians they just killed 12 children as the whole world is watching on a

playground and that was Drew's Community which is a a great part of the Lebanese community and no one leased Hassan nasah how many times Omar and Mustafa and Muhammad's complained or protested against hisbah aggression taking advantage of Israel bleeding in the South I'm sorry and he was totally Mist mamad today this is his punishment Israel is legitimate when I when I stand for Israel why do I stand for Israel because Israel is the most legitimate uh eth group in the region with evidence overwhelming evidence to relationship to that land om mus been trying for the

past 14400 years to delegitimize and annulate the Jewish people from that land and they hate it so much that Israel is showing resilience and strength you ask Omar if he's sad Omar is morning Hassan nasah is his hero so let me tell Omar and his likes listen you cannot rewrite history and when I speak I don't only speak on my own authority I speak on the authority of the universe that Iran and all its proxies universe and the musim World Behind it no this is a very very serious conversation back off there is going to

be only the language of fire and you can sit here in the west pretending to Value the Western you are a liar with the false identity and your religion all right and the your entire population let me get a let me call a time out here Omar Omar you can respond to this I'm gonna just go to the uh Professor morani for a moment to get his response to this I will come back to you what I would say though is you did choose to start the whole debate with a quite lengthy personal attack on

mossab it's hardly surprising he would 100% merited that's the difference I personally would PR the difference openly bigoted no there is a difference between me pointing out the fact that he openly says that all Muslims are evil in comparison to animals and engages in all kinds of the worst kind of bigotry imaginable and him just inventing nonsense and just leveling it at me by the way I'm a secular agnostic and pretty open about that I've written about it I don't know what he's talking about with the musaas and muhammads and whatever just you can see

the bigotry in his engagement and about the Arab culture of death in one breath he says openly that the entire Arab world is made up of 300 million clowns that is a direct quote of his and on the other he's fing concern for Arabs who die because of hisbah I mean just the entire thing is just a silly charade he is not a serious human being and you can see the utter bigotry in every word that comes out of his mouth and the fact that he has no serious analysis to offer I want to come

back I want to come back to both of you and talk seriously about what is a very serious situation it's been reported tonight that Israel is planning to launch an incursion as they put it a limited ground incursion into Lebanon perhaps as early as tonight this is obviously a massively important moment in this conflict so let's try and talk about that when I come back I know I just want to bring in the professor Muhammad mirand he's been on uncensored before he's currently in Beirut Professor thank you for joining me uh first of all you

might be asking why you're in Beirut when the Israeli regime carried out a major atrocity on the first day of bombing killing well over 500 people I decided to come here and I thought it would be best to be here to help uh be a voice for the people of Lebanon and uh actually I was in the building where I was staying uh when the attack occurred on say Hassan nasah and the six uh Towers residential to towers that were all destroyed killing hundreds of people uh it was about a th000 meters away I know

that neighborhood well because I during my sabatical in Lebanon in 2011 and 12 uh I liveed pretty close and I walk there and I drive through there and Israeli has massacred hundreds of people and uh in the west they you don't stress that I think there were 83 missiles each one ton and um it's unbelievable how how immoral the Western Elite has become that they're gloating over this attack after a year of genocide and Holocaust and Gaza now slaughtering people in in Beirut day and night after the attack on S Hassan Nas hours later they

said they're going to strike three other places and they struck 12 or 13 in southern beay people were terrorized no one knows how many people have died and this is of course the legacy of Western colonialism and the Israeli regime an illegitimate regime that I there's a paradox here on the one hand they are your chosen people uh you're on the one on the other hand you're a secular Western uh political order we don't know what to believe when it comes to the West on the one hand the Israelis who are from Europe and other

parts of the region and far less Semite than than the Palestinians they have exceptional rights they can slaughter people as they've done in Lebanon before Hezbollah was created Hezbollah was created as a result of the Israeli regime's occupation of Lebanon and The Taking of this very same city that I'm in right now Beirut it C it was created as a result of the occupation and they drove the Israeli regime out and the Israeli regime during the occupation in 1982 they and their Allied militias they slaughtered in a refugee camp pretty close to where I am

right now they slaughtered 4,000 people in within 36 hours up to 40 4,000 Palestinians and subl Lebanese so this genocidal behavior of the Israeli regime began far before Hezbollah was ever created okay listen I gave you a long chance there to respond because I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say and I mean that um Hezbollah as you know uh along with Hamas they are wedded to the destruction of Israel and hezbollah's resp response to October the 7th was to immediately unleash a lot of rockets at Israel in solidarity with what Hamas had done

in Gaza if you're the Israeli government and you've just been on the receiving end of one of the worst Terror attacks of modern times with 1200 people killed with nearly 7,000 more wounded in an utterly horrific and barbaric series of attacks from up to 3,000 people coming over your border and then the response want in the north of your border is for Hezbollah to unleash a lot of rockets at you and then to carry on doing that for the next calendar year at what point did you not think that Israel is going to respond and

whether you agree with what they've done or not the the military success and I'll phrase that exactly as I've just phrased it the military success of what they have achieved against Hezbollah in the last 10 days by the pager attack on 3,000 members of hisbah by taking out now the leader of hisbah and many other commanders by taking out the Hamas leader in Lebanon you cannot dispute the military success and what I'm curious about with Iran is where is the response you know Iran helped create Hezbollah helped train Hezbollah at the start Iran has funded

Hamas funded the houes uh Israel has now you know if you if you look at this purely objectively from the outside from a military point of view is having a lot of success against iran-backed groups where is Iran why is it not responding many people think it's because actually Iran doesn't have the either the ability to take on Israel or the desire to first of all I think that uh you have to keep in mind that from my perspective the Israeli regime cannot respond respond legitimately because the regime is illegitimate Hezbollah wants a parde and

ethnos supremacism to be dismantled in other words something that in the west is very impossible to imagine all human beings in Palestine well he wants Israel destroyed it wants the destruction of Israel is literally what they want the destruct they want the destruction of This Racist political entity that carries out genocide and ethnic cleansing and it has been doing so for 76 years the very same people who carried out the neba they raped and murdered and expelled people that most of the people who are in Gaza are refugees these are this is not a legitimate

regime okay but going back to my question Professor why is Iran why is Iran not doing anything the world is watching and the world is furious yeah first of all Iran will respond have no out about that and the Israeli regime will be punished second of all Iran will continue to support the aess of resistance and Israel has not had any military success the pagers was a terrorist attack and it was actually an attack on the West too because these electronic devices from now on those things that have been produced in the west or countries

that are Allied to the West their supplies changes chains have been compromised and the West is doing nothing about it and I think lots of people are going to have second thoughts about buying any electronical devices from any of these Western countries or countries affiliated to the West so the W the Israeli regime is doing no services to the west by carrying out these Terror attacks it's interesting that you phrase it it's interesting you phrase it as a terror attack given that obviously well given that Hezbollah is identified by America and many other countries as

a terrorist group and given that it was very specific in its targeting you know extraordinarily precise it is obviously horrific that civilians were killed in the process but the vast majority of people who were uh damaged wounded or killed by the pag attacks were members of Hezbollah who are uh according to America and Israel a terror group so that's how they were categorizing that's not an act of Terror that would be under the laws of combat they would say they are taking on combatants and that's perfectly lawful and legitimate that is their argument here if

it was pagers and uh walkie-talkies or cell phones that were in the United States I think you'd have American bombers over countries who they would claim were behind it so let's put aside the hypocrisy but just to be clear you don't think that Israel has any military right to respond to Hezbollah firing rockets at at Israel Israel Israel does not have an ethnos supremacist regime apart South Africa had never had the right to exist and Israel never had the right to exist the only exist has no right to defend itself against rocket attacks but it

has no right to exist when it came into being by displacing people in Mass your position on its existence I'm just telling you given it given it does exist does it have no right to defend itself here is this is what you fail to comprehend as long as you have a master race as long as you have a hierarchy of race as long as you have one race that considers itself Superior to others there is not going to be any peace that's just a fact of life whether it's in the United States or whether it's

in Palestine or whether it's in South Africa it's not there's not going to be peace for Iran the dismantling and for Hezbollah the dismantling or you can call it the destruction the dismantling of this system has to happen and this is something that you don't accept which is fine you support racism no no I don't no no hang on don't misquote me don't misquote me I don't dispute for a moment that is the intention of Hezbollah the hutis Hamas all funded by Iran I have no doubt that Iran would like to see the destruction and

removal of Israel I get all that I'm just saying that yeah but hang on I'm just I'm just saying that right now it looks like Hamas is losing Hezbollah is losing the hooes are on the run and their big back at Iran seems to have disappeared and I'm looking at this thinking this is odd where is their big backer where is Iran who's been sponsoring and funding all this Terror where are they when the real action starts and many people think like I said it's because Iran either lacks the capability or the will to try

and respond to what's happened that's what you want people to think no it's what it's what people are saying well respon and that is that is narrative that you wish to pursue which is fine but then you're going to be struck with reality ultimately ansar is not retreating the Israeli regime and the Americans have failed in the Red Sea they the ansar survived seven years of genocidal War backed by the US and your government again against their people they defeated the the people who carried out the genocid of War you think a couple of air

strikes from from the Israeli regime is going to change anything they will continue to en enforce as they say Anar in Yemen enforce the genocide convention and you your governments are the terror organizations they're the ones that are funding this genocide they're the ones giving the bombs the bunker Busters to go and bomb homes and civilian Towers in Gaza and whenever they carried out the Western media will say Hamas strongholds Terror centers Hezbollah strongholds why because they want to justify these Terror attacks no the terrorists are in London and and Washington and Paris and elsewhere

but since you think that somehow you're more civilized and that your countries are better than ours whatever you do has justification no the terrorists are the ones who are supporting the Israeli regime and who have been carrying out Terror for a year Hamas Islamic Jihad they are the native population that have been brutalized for 76 years and Hezbollah has been trying to help them they voluntarily entered this battle last year Hezbollah to draw the Israeli Army away from Gaza so they would be able to kill less people they are heroes contrary to what you say

and your government has been helping the Israeli regime to slaughter they've been giving them intelligence political support financial support ammunition and of course the weapons they have to and most importantly the intelligence all the all of the five eyes and Western intelligence and the awx that fly and the drones that fly alongside the Mediterranean both for Gaza and Lebanon they're helping the Israeli regime carry out its genocide isn't the truth about this that there's a massive geopolitical Battle of will going on where you have Iran you have Russia you have China dancing somewhere in the

middle uh and on the other side you have the West and there's a jostling for power and position and geography uh you see it in Ukraine you see it now uh in the Middle East and that Iran is sitting there in a really interesting position where it's seeing Saudi Arabia nudging ever closer to normalizing relations with Israel and if that was to happen after all the other Middle Eastern countries that have done that it's pretty well game over for Iran's ability to destroy Israel and to destroy this normalization process that's what Iran is terrified of

and that's why Iran has been so aggressively funding these groups which I would categorize as terrorist groups you categorize them as Freedom Fighters whatever you want to call them they've been funded and armed by Iran who right now is looking completely impotent in the eyes of the world now you say they're going to respond the last time they responded to an assassination they fired a few hundred rockets that all got taken out by Israel's Iron Dome it wasn't exactly a show of strength might and I'm not saying this to go Iran into doing anything I'm

just saying it is notable that Iran has done nothing and it could be that Iran itself right now is feeling very isolated and feels that maybe the net is closing in on itself Deus you're you're very inconsistent in what you said right now you're saying on the one hand it's Iran Russia and sort of China and now you're saying Iran is completely isolated ated and Afraid which one is it let's be real here this is not about geopolitics that is always a part of everything but this is about a moral issue but you cannot comprehend

that your governments are morally inferior than others your governments are Terror states that are supporting actually made no I've made no comment about that I mean I was you were saying I was the editor of the well to be clear I was editor of the Daily Mirror newspaper when we opposed the British government's war in Iraq for example right so you know when it comes to my moral view of these things it maybe not be as simple as you think I acknowledge that in our first discussion and uh I will not uh refrain from doing

so again but your government carried out the dirty war in Syria we know Jake Sullivan he wrote an email to Hillary Clinton on February the 12 2012 that Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria a decade after 911 what about what hisbah did in Syria at the beest a dictator what about killing hundreds of thousands of Muslims did you have a problem with that no your government's killed hundreds of thousands of people because your government did too with Assad's forces no your government you don't think that's true War you don't think it's your come on

Pi let me you come on your government theb got into Bay with Assad and killed hundreds of thousands of people you don't want me to respond because you know that this is going to be a problem problematic for you your intelligence agency in England facilitated the travel of young people to Syria to fight and to join Isis the same Isis that according to the US defense intelligence agency document of 2012 Regional countries were deciding to create a salfas entity between Syria and Iraq and according to General Michael Flynn in an inter on Al jazer of

all places he said that the United States supported this the United States supported the rise of Isis and carrying a leaked audio and all of this is online he said we allowed Isis to advance on Damascus so your governments are responsible for Syria your governments are responsible for Libya remember we came we saw he died this was a sovereign country that your government destroyed your government supported the genocide in Yemen and now your government is supporting the genocide in Gaza and the people of this region would you categorize okay I hear you and you're you're

perfectly entitled to your view but would you agree that when you have a charter which proclaims you want the destruction of Israel which has 7 million people living in it that is genocide no there no one is talking about killing Jews that's a lie in fact many if you destroy Israel you destroy millions of Jewish people and we unfortunately the the resistance in s Southern Africa and their supporters across the world destroyed the parthe regime in South Africa but they they kill off the white population young Jews in the United States are standing up to

this aparte and racist and genocidal regime today and the fact is that the Israeli regime has exposed itself to the world they have done more harm to the they have done more harm to Jews than anyone else they're the anti-semites because they're carrying out this genocide in the name of Jews and young Jews in your country and in the United States that are saying not in my name so they're the anti-semites they're the Europeans who came here and now Netanyahu calls Palestinians Amal and you know what that means in biblical terms it was the Israeli

president who said that there are no Innocents in Gaza it was the Israeli so-called defense minister or Terror Minister who said we're going to shut off the medicine and the water and the food and we're going to starve people shocking statements I agree with you and that's what they did it wasn't they weren't shocking I agree I agree with you and the fact that they were able to do that they still doing it now they want to expand it to Lebanon I I don't disagree with you about the occupation charge because clearly only an occupying

force or country can have the ability to turn on the tap of energy and water and so on I agree with you so that makes it a criminal regime that your government is backing to the hill so what did that make your government it makes it a terror regime okay so instead of calling our governments and groups in this region that are indigenous and all they want is Palestinians to be treated as equal human beings and to bring down this corrupt system instead of calling them the terrorists you should call those people who are the

terrorist okay all I would say is I believe all Palestinians should have exactly the same human rights as any Israelis or anybody else or anybody else I completely believe that everywhere yeah but I do not agree with your categorization of these groups as resistance they are Terror groups but we'll have to disagree they are heroes and Hassan Nas was a hero okay he's your hero to me he was a Despicable terrorist but we will have to leave it there Professor Mandy thank you very much for joining me I appreciate it thank you well let's go

back to go back to the panel I mean mossab that is the Iranian view uh he's entitled to have that view it's interesting for my viewers I think to hear that view but what is your response look uh the uh Islamic revolution uh leaders a and before him R Allah they have invested uh some 40 to 50 years into their proxies and that includes hisbah Hamas and other proxies in the region now what they see they see the collapse of their aggression the collapse and the failure of many many years of investment what happened to

hisbah is shocking to the core the entire uh islamists around the world are seeing the collapse of one of the most funded equipped uh military uh force in the Middle East and aah is not far uh from uh Israel's reach he understands this this is why he retreated after the assassination of Hanah and by the way I want to ask just a question okay who killed the Iranian president to begin with the fact that Israel did not announce that did not mean that Israel does not have any hands in it so Ayah and the other

Hamas leaders in Qatar who think that they are immune to retaliation they're totally mistaken I said this from day one and that's based on a personal experience with the Israeli intelligence of more than 10 years that all Hamas leaders will be eliminated with no exception hisbah that was surprising to me how fast they actually collapsed but the Iranian regime is a lot more vulnerable and the Iranian nuclear program is ought to be destroyed it's just a matter of time there is no immunity for these people who have been destabilizing the region they taking advantage of

the chaos they create then we have the clowns here what so-called experts coming here in the west spreading false Narrative of occupation and Palestine and what I say Palestine never existed except as a colonial entity created by the Brits lived for about 25 years a colonial entity it was never a country it was never a nation and today when and his friends come and say Israel is occupying Force I say occupying what if Palestine never existed how can you occupy something that never exist let me bring in so now they keep on no no wait

wait wait I've got to let respond they keep going they they keep he he he will have his time he will have his time now we are talking about a FAL narrative F and you've had a chance to have your diet you respond now you you were here you're hearing musab here talking about how occupation is all fake and made up and it's whatever but it's incredible that when you look at what international law says what the UN says what the UN General Assembly says what un resolutions say in the security Council there is a

complete and total consensus on the fact that Israel is an occupying power illegally occupying the West Bank and Gaza and East Jerusalem uh the international court of justice has come out with an opinion making clear that this occupation is illegal and has to end so while musab wants to pretend that this is something that Palestinians manufactured because he has nothing of substance really to say the reality is just so obvious and so blatant that you don't even know how to to address such a bizarre and ridiculous argument that this is something that Palestinians invented Palestinians

have been there for literally thousands of years they are the natural continuation of people who have lived in that land for a very very long time and yes it's true Palestine was never an independent UN member for example as independent country but by the same token Native Americans in the United States were never also a you know did not have a state that is a member of the United Nations it doesn't change the fact that they were living on their own land and that Colonists came and take over and drove them off of that land

and created a new state on top of them so Israel was created at the expense of Palestinians and while you might talk about this militant group or that militant group or what their Charter may say about the destruction of Israel in the case of Israel it is active policy that we're watching is to destroy Palestine this isn't theoretical we're not talking about what their Charter says we're talking about what Israel is doing and Israel is committing genocide in Gaza it is building illegal settlements in the West Bank using unspeakable level of violence against the Palestinian

civilians there and confining them to smaller and smaller areas we are watching the destruction of Palestine before our eyes in a way that the entire international human rights community and international law says is completely illegitimate and criminal and our reaction is to fund it and maybe occasionally criticize it instead of standing up to it in a really meaningful double standard what should Israel have done on October 8 after the attack the day before in a theoretical World in which I was the Israeli leader on October 8th what I would do is take on the podium

acknowledge the fact that we've created an unspeakable situation in which violence is inevitable and I would offered to instantly end the occupation of the West Bank Gaza and East Jerusalem to apply international law and respect Palestinian human rights in exchange for every person on October 7th who engaged in acts of violence against Israeli civilians to be brought before court and put on trial for war crimes who would do that question who would have brought 40,000 Hamas fighters to call yeah you you don't need the entire 40,000 in the same sense that you don't need every

last member of the Israeli military to be brought um in you know before war crimes because the Israel military engages in war crimes there is a path forward and that's the thing the reason you're seriously suggesting that Israel should not have responded ins you're seriously suggesting that Israel should not have responded to one of the worst Terror attacks in history in any military way whatsoever you have to be consistent about this PE if we're expecting Palestinians to not respond in any militant sense to literally Decades of Israeli atrocities and mor crimes against Palestinians why does

it only work one way why do we say that Israel must respond militarily but Palestinians are never said to need to respond militarily to Decades of Israeli occupation on war crimes why why is that double standard there because the argument as you know from the other side is if you go back to 1948 that there have been a series of escalations in those 75 years with blame being attached to both sides small things happening which then trigger outbreaks of war and it's gone on now for 75 years and at the center of it is is

an ongo but here's my point the center of it is an ongoing dispute about territory and land I get all that but ultimately you cannot have a situation where on one day that volume of people are Massac and wounded in 7,000 people wounded and that Israel just does nothing it was so far and away beyond anything anyone had seen in that Conflict for 75 years in one day of course they were going to respond of course Hamas knew of course Hamas knew that was that would be what Israel would do so they knew what would

happen to their own people and they didn't care Iran knew what the response would be and obviously knew what Hamas were going to do hezbollah's reaction was not to show a modum of sympathy for any of the people killed or it was to launch a barrage of rocket in sympathy with Hamas the terrorists who perpetrated it and they've carried on doing that all year for a whole year and they've displaced 65 70,000 Israelis from the North of Israel and at some point of course Israel is going to respond now what part of what I've just

said is factually inaccurate yeah I think the entire framing that Israel is responding is at the fundamental core of what's wrong I'm not denying historic I prefaced it by saying not historical I said there have been 75 years of flareups and wars and everything and and you can argue about all the history as long as you want what you can't argue with is the scale of what happened on October the 7th was so horrific it was always going toing there's no denying it was a major attack sorry yeah no no here's the thing Piers this

is not about tracing it back as a tit fortat well they did this before and those people did this before there is a status quo it's not equal sides that are living on both sides of a border that are perfectly living fine and equal and then one of them chooses to launch an attack against the other you have a fundamental status quo in which one people rules another in which Israelis every day decade after decade are free and live in complete freedom and democracy and and so on and you have Palestinians in Gaza who are

living in a cage not allowed to go in and out have no Freedom no was given governmental power from 2005 and all it did was spend billions of dollars building a huge underground tunnel Network so it could continue to wage Terror against Israel they squandered that money when you can you can argue you can argue to the cows come home but that's obviously what they did and they did it they did it at the expense of their people so yeah you can claim with great with great cause by the way that Israel's had an occupation

which had never have been permitted in the first place but you can also not deny that in 2005 they pulled out of Gaza and let Hamas take charge and this is where we've got to how has that helped the people no I don't I don't think that's a correct framing no they withdrew in 2005 out of Gaza and then put Gaza Under Siege and made it a cage and allowed Hamas to govern this cage internally they can be the prison wardens of Palestinian prisoners that's not meaningful governance and then you can have a serious debate

about how Hamas spent its money you can say that maybe what they should have done is make this cage a little bit more pleasant for Palestinians to live in and instead they chose to devote their resources into breaking out of that cage by investing in military infrastructure I'm not a fan of Hamas I don't support them I oppose their rule I don't think they're are particularly positive influence on Palestinian Society but at the end of at the end of the day when you're talking about a captive population that Israel has just put in a cage

and left to rot it is natural that people are going to be drawn to more extremist and violent ideologies in order to break to that fundamental do you accept though but do you accept that's really the reality do you accept that you have the three hes the hooes Hamas esbah all prescribed Terror groups to many nations around the world all of them funded and resourced by Iran and do you accept that at some point when you have that kind of concentrated collection of groups that are wedded to the destruction of Israel Israel is going to

do what it can to try and save itself right you may you can argue about the history as much as you want but they're going to do that and what is inarguable it seems to me right now what I put to Professor Mandi is that from a pure military perspective it would appear that Israel is having enormous success now in taking on Hamas hisbah now hoties and Iran has disappeared Iran is doing nothing to defend these groups that is funded for so long now maybe they will but at the moment it looks like either they

don't have the ability to properly get involved or they don't have the will and that could be an enormous transformative Revelation for that whole region couldn't it yeah two things on on what you just said Pierce I think the fundamental reality is that Israel is insisting on a situation of dominance again this is not a status quo in which Israel is just another country in the region the occupation and ethnic cleansing and apartheid and the genocide now in Gaza are an ongoing process and Israel has an option it is true that this has triggered a

reaction in the region in which militant groups and movements are emerging and that Iran is indulging those militant groups they're not proxies of Iran just for clarity Anar and Yemen are a genuine yemeni group heah and Lebanon is a genuine Lebanese movement its roots are in Lebanon the same with Hamas and the Palestinian are that Iran was initially created by members of the Iranian revolutionary guard who trained them 1500 members train the entire to get them going of course they're a proxy yes Iran is Iran is supporting them in order to get them going but

members of what you mean by proxy who was just assassinated was born and raised in Lebanon to me proxy implies that they don't they're not independent actors they're just tools that Iran sent to the region that's exactly saying these are actors in the region no they are actors in the region that are that are defiant towards Israeli Regional dominance and because they have a common cause with Iran Iran is arming and training them that's the dynamic and yes Israel has an option they can start behaving within the bounds of international law and reach a peace

agreement with the people around them and with Palestinians that would then suck all the energy away from these fanatical groups that want to keep fighting or Israel can continue massacring Palestinians and taking their land and insisting on pursuing a military strategy against new and emerging military threats by all means if you want to do it your way you have endless war in the Middle East or Israel behav within international law don't say it's my way because I see no plan which makes much sense to me about what Israel intends to do with Gaza after this

or indeed what its ultimate plan is for Lebanon so this is not my way I'm just telling you what it looks like from the outside which it looks like Israel is now on the ascendants against its traditional enemies over there and is having a lot of military success um let me go back to to mosab you actually predicted that Nella was about to be assassin you posted on September the 23rd on x four days before let's gamble anyone who predicts the day and date of Hassan n's assassination will get an autograph copy of my new

book The Last profit $777 in cash uh on what day and date Hassan Salah scheduled to meet Allah um I mean you were right so uh putting your predictive hat on again what do you think is now going to happen if as is being reported widely now uh Israel launches what they call a limited ground incursion into Lebanon where is this all going to end well the eyes are not only on Lebanon uh the most important uh Target and the priority number one is the Iranian uh nuclear program this is priority number one we cannot

afford allowing any Islamic entity to have mass destruction weapon because they are not showing responsibility they have been bullying they have been intimidating other religions and and ethnic groups the Islamic hatred against the Jewish people is evident and of course many people can hide behind the Palestine as a device to express their anti-Semitism uh to inflict pain on the Jewish people after they suffered a genocide on October 7 which by the way by the definition the only genocide was committed committed is on October 7 what's happening in Gaza is not a genocide it's collateral damage

it's the use of human Shields that has been justified by Omar and many Advocates on behalf of Palestine who think that the use of human Shields and kidnapping people and raping and looting and the calls for annihilating of a human race is a disgusting accus completely baseless I've never any of these you shut up you shut up it's my turn now Yeah by all means yeah UNH go on with your Inver they invert the narrative you they invert the narrative every time they suffer a defeat they call it a genocide and we say no there

is a big difference between defeat and a genocide you started this war and you killed Jewish people in October 7 by the name of Allah not by the name of Palestine then the entire Muslim World backed Hamas in a Global Offensive against the Jewish people a small minority that is resilient to time with overwhelming evidence in relationship to the land the only indigenous people to the land who did not oppose allowing the Arabs to stay in the state of Israel this is why we have 2 million Arabs in Israel so now to accuse is ridiculous

cleansing Israel was establ is how perpetrator you are the perpet why you interrupting me I listened to your uh false narrative all the way until the end so this is the time to sit down and listen sit down car on carry on with your this is your Mastery inverting The Narrative this is what you do best you are the perpetrator then suddenly you become the victim and I tell you something Iran will be punished everyone who's standing behind terrorism Hamas is a terrorist organization designated as a terrorist organization in the United States you cannot be

American and supportive of Hamas you say you're are not a big fan of Hamas but you are a big fan of Hassan nasah Hassan nasah killed many Americans hundreds of Americans Hassan nasah is a criminal ayat is a criminal and whether you come by the name of Allah or by the name of religion it doesn't matter Justice must be delivered what happened on October 7 it's not about how many Jews were killed we cannot agree to that nobody in the Free World would agree on Hamas aggression that was documented by their their their own cameras

and of course we will have to go after them otherwise if I to listen to you Earth will be corrupted if I to just follow your uh logic that do you hear honestly M do you say Do you believe anything that you're say vomit nonsense the war started 1,400 years ago your mosque in Jerusalem is built on the top of the Jewish temple you go below the mosque and we have all the evidence you don't have the right to delegitimize Israel as a nation it's against facts it's against the Bible it's against history you cannot

rewrite the history by keep inverting and spreading false narrative listen I this is you're going nowhere Israel is going nowhere and you need to have the legitimacy first okay you must have the legitimacy as a Palestinian om finally very legitimate wrap this upe I just want to ask Omar the same question I asked M which is if Israel launches the ground offensive into Lebanon what do you think is going to happen here yeah just very quickly I'm going to say that musab just all he does is level ridiculous baseless at personal accusations about what I

think and what I do and it's just again not a serious argument Israel was established at the expense of Palestinians in order to create a Jewish State they have to ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands of Palestinians out of their homes in order to manufacture that demographic reality that's just a fact now in Lebanon I think this ground invasion of Lebanon is going to be a disaster I think you're going okay can you now can you please keep your mouth just zipped while I'm talking since you made a big deal about you having time now when

we talk about what's happening in Lebanon I think this ground invasion is going to be a disaster for the entire region I think they're going to try to turn South Lebanon into another God I think they're going to engage in a massive unspeakable scale of violence and I think that even though he's leadership has been decapitated there are still plenty of soldiers on the ground who are far better trained than Hamas Fighters and so we are in for an absolutely bloody mess that increases the chances of it developing into a major regional War very very

significantly and seriously the level of atrocities that we're about to witness in Lebanon is going to be beyond the horror that we saw in Gaza and again the fact that nobody's restraining this fanatical Israeli government from this path of death and destruction is an extremely disturbing development that is really pushing the entire region towards the okay I've got to leave it there thank you both very much I understand passions run high on this issue but I appreciate you both coming together and debating this and we'll see what happens I hope you're wrong uh Omar I

really do but I I fear that uh things could get a lot nastier before they get better but I hope not thank you both very much indeed